[00:35] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, o/
[00:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahayzen_, hey
[00:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> unfortunately
[00:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> issues
[00:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I can't get my usb disk to unmount ~:/
[00:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> its 3.0 as well
[00:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> trying to create a startup disk.
[00:35] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, just wanted to check ur work on the toolbar in the now playing page wasn't removing all the legacy code as well?
[00:36] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, oh god :/ shutdown ur machine and then unplug? hehe
[00:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahayzen_, I removed some legacy
[00:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> but I didn't remove all.
[00:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> only the legacy in nowplaying
[00:36] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, which bits? i've just been stripping out things...
[00:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and the id's are still old
[00:36] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, ah i'm in MusicToolbar.qml so we're on different bits right?
[00:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahayzen_, I did push it, if you want to see
[00:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahayzen_, yah
[00:37] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, cool just wanted to check :)
[00:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> all my work is constrained strictly to now playing
[00:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> thanks
[00:37] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, yeah basically as the toolbar only really has one state now i can remove loads of code from MusicToolbar.qml
[00:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> thankfully
[00:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I can't wait to see it.
[00:38]  * Akiva-Thinkpad wishes he wasnt waisting so much time with os issues.
[00:38] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, i got the cardview working by the way
[00:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> oh screenshot!
[00:38] <ahayzen_> hang on i'll find it
[00:39] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, the margins are a bit bigger now (more like the design) but this was my initial "OMG it is working" screenshot from earlier https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3XynHVKfrvMQUhFbnp5RXk2RkU
[00:40] <ahayzen_> Akiva-Thinkpad, looks pretty much the same as the design now...and victor is reviewing the mp so all is good :)
[00:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah very nice
[05:23] <mihir> popey: balloons can we have calendar updates  to store (we have critical updates) ?
[07:22] <justCarakas> o/ good morning, evening whatever it is at your place all :D
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, ping
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> mihir, ping
[08:49] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: pong
[08:50] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, oh sorry didnt see. was wondering if you knew anything about the build in emulator bug about intltools-merge
[08:50] <akiva-thinkpad> I followed your tutorial, did 2 fresh installs, and I still couldnt get the terminal to run apps.
[08:51] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I fixed it by installing intltool in the armhf chroot which the emulator uses.
[08:51] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, O_O I TOTALLY TRIED THAT!
[08:51] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[08:51] <akiva-thinkpad> http://i.imgur.com/rX7tn3M.jpg
[08:51] <akiva-thinkpad> okay and that works right?
[08:51] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: previously it used to fail silently by saying the desktop file was missing. Now it provides a more useful messsage by saying which package is missing
[08:51] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: yes
[08:52] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: have you tried a template sdk project?
[08:52] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, or wait; I installed it through adb shell;
[08:52] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, probably; mostly its been the music app though
[08:53] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: first lets figure out if the issue with your system or the music app. Please try creating a sample sdk app and see if it runs in the emulator.
[08:53] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: atleast that should provide a bit of confidence and allow to us to debug in the right place
[08:53] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, sure in a bit; I'm reinstalling the sdk after I borked it trying to install the latest libraries from a ppa :P
[08:53] <akiva-thinkpad> finally fixed the last package
[08:53] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I thought you are using 14.10?
[08:53] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, I am.
[08:53] <akiva-thinkpad> it was the latest thing I tried
[08:54] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: hmm then the only thing you need would be the sdk ppa
[08:54] <akiva-thinkpad> my sdk said something about  "error: mkspec not found for qt version"
[08:54] <akiva-thinkpad> so I figured it might have been a recent library
[08:55] <akiva-thinkpad> yep; fun fact; some ppas break your sdk :P
[08:55] <akiva-thinkpad> anyways just my inexperience
[08:59] <nik90> I agree
[08:59] <akiva-thinkpad> ;_; YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY!
[08:59] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I would expect 14.04 devs (myself included) to add a ton of PPAs..otherwise I don't see the benefit of using 14.10 :P
[09:00] <akiva-thinkpad> in the meantime, might as well deal with those merges
[09:05] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, okay so what do I have to do here?
[09:05] <akiva-thinkpad> right
[09:05] <akiva-thinkpad> run a normal app
[09:05] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: yes..just to check if your system packages are configured correctly
[09:07] <akiva-thinkpad> mmmm bit different
[09:07] <akiva-thinkpad> but I got a crash and apport popped up
[09:08] <akiva-thinkpad> oh wait...
[09:08]  * akiva-thinkpad checks if the qml was botched too
[09:09] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: btw does the emulator start for you?
[09:09] <nik90> and I presume you read the documentation at http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/
[09:10] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, emulator starts fine
[09:10]  * akiva-thinkpad wonders if he should just reinstall his system again
[09:10] <akiva-thinkpad> qtcreator is pretty backwards now
[09:10] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: backwards?
[09:11] <akiva-thinkpad> yah that ppa I installed really messed it up
[09:12] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: pls don't any more ppa for SDK if you do decide to reinstall. Utopic should already have all the necessary packages you need to get a sample app up and running on the emulator.
[09:13] <nik90> if in doubt please check the tutorials at the link bove
[09:13] <nik90> above*
[09:14] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, its not something I normally try
[09:14] <akiva-thinkpad> but yah
[09:14] <akiva-thinkpad> Ive found many interesting ways to break qtcreator
[09:14] <akiva-thinkpad> for example
[09:14] <akiva-thinkpad> NEVER run qtcreator as root
[09:15] <akiva-thinkpad> it creates config files that you won't be able to access next time you run it as a normal usesr
[09:15] <DanChapman> o_O why would you anyway?
[09:15] <DanChapman> Morning btw :-)
[09:15] <nik90> erh why would you do that ever!
[09:15] <akiva-thinkpad> DanChapman, I was at my wits end! That cmake bug was driving me up the wall
[09:16] <akiva-thinkpad> and vic gave me heck because i was testing on the destkop and not an emulator
[09:16] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: it is important that merges to the core apps are first tested either on phone or emulator. That's the protocol
[09:16] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: so I kinda agree with vic there
[09:16] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, yep, me too
[09:16] <akiva-thinkpad> I think he made an excellent point
[09:16] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: and I also understand the cmake frustation you had since I was there myself some weeks back
[09:17] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, thanks :P the fact that I am not crazy, makes me feel slightly better.
[09:17] <akiva-thinkpad> I know a bit better now how to approach this issue though.
[09:17] <akiva-thinkpad> so
[09:17] <nik90> hehe
[09:18] <akiva-thinkpad> btw; why do we use cmakes and not .pro instead?
[09:18] <akiva-thinkpad> Not an accussation; I just want to know the reasoning. I presume .qmlproject can not handle c++
[09:19] <nik90> that's something you need to ask the sdk devs..I am honestly new to this, so I just went with what they recommended us to use
[09:20] <akiva-thinkpad> be back in 20 minutes... i'm going to reinstall.
[09:22] <DanChapman> ogra_: hey, thanks for the bug report... just what i need on a monday morning!! :-D What revision are you getting those denials on?
[09:24] <ogra_> latest ... .9
[09:28] <ogra_> (0.2.9 that is indeed)
[09:30] <nik90> balloons: can you give me a ping when you are online
[09:30] <nik90> elopio: I got more qml units tests if you are interested in reviewing
[09:44] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Ecological Debt Day! :-D
[09:55] <nik90> zsombi: ping
[10:00] <zsombi> nik90: wazzup?
[10:00] <nik90> zsombi: hey, I got an interesting issue that I know how to solve but you may not like it :P
[10:00] <nik90> zsombi: so I am implementing the dynamic bottom edge title which reads "next alarm in 2d 3h 15m"...
[10:01] <zsombi> nik90: bottom edge title???!
[10:02] <nik90> zsombi: I noticed that when I have only 1 repeating alarm saved to go off in a few minutes, the title reads "next alarm in 15m" which is correct. However the repeating alarm goes of, the alarm date is not updated. As a result it now reads "No active alarms"
[10:02] <nik90> zsombi: yeah, in the clock app our designs show that the bottom edge (which will be shown most of the time) should provide a dynamic title
[10:02] <nik90> zsombi: is there a way you could expose a "Update()" function that i can call to refresh the alarm model?
[10:03] <nik90> zsombi: because the moment I reopen the clock app, the alarm model is reopened and the alarm date is updated fine
[10:04]  * nik90 takes a screenshot
[10:05] <nik90> zsombi: https://imgur.com/46OxWB2
[10:05] <mihir> popey: nik90  already raised bug for new screenshot , ain't that same  bug #/1377638?
[10:06] <nik90> bug 1377638
[10:07] <JamesTait> nik90, I realised this morning that if I have my phone volume right down, my alarm doesn't sound (but the phone still vibrates).  Is that bug #1376513 ?
[10:07] <nik90> popey: oh alan,, you just duplicated a lot of work :P
[10:07] <popey> hm?
[10:07] <popey> bah!
[10:08] <mihir> nik90: popey  heheh
[10:08] <nik90> JamesTait: yes and no...I still need to confirm with rsalvetti if the individual alarm roles stuff has landed on the phone. But essentially afaik atm the phone volume slider adjusts the global volume
[10:08] <nik90> JamesTait: once we have individual sound roles, then we can let the user control the alarm volume separetely
[10:08] <popey> I'll remove it
[10:08] <nik90> JamesTait: so yes, it is something we are quite close to fixing :)
[10:08] <popey> nik90: yours needs more apps adding
[10:09] <JamesTait> nik90, excellent, as long as it's on the radar I'm happy. :)
[10:09] <nik90> JamesTait: :)
[10:09] <nik90> popey: ack
[10:09] <zsombi> nik90: in the normal world, the Alarms backend should get a signal that something went off, got updated, or so...
[10:10] <nik90> zsombi: yes
[10:10] <nik90> popey: you also added Flashback :P
[10:10] <zsombi> nik90: and perhaps it comes...
[10:10] <popey> intentionally
[10:10] <popey> and dekko
[10:10] <popey> it's not just core apps which should be updated.
[10:10] <zsombi> nik90: do you have teh app foreground when the alarm kicks?
[10:11] <nik90> zsombi: yes
[10:11] <nik90> zsombi: that's when the issue arises
[10:11] <zsombi> nik90: and stil doesn't update?
[10:11] <nik90> zsombi: nope
[10:11] <nik90> zsombi: only a restart, refreshes the alarm model
[10:11] <nik90> zsombi: I could unload the alarm model and then load it again using a Loader.
[10:12] <zsombi> nik90: then smells we don't handle or get the signal which reports update... though the itemChanged() is teh one which drives the changes in teh model...
[10:12] <zsombi> nik90: if it's background, I'm not surprised if it aint works...
[10:13] <nik90> zsombi: I doubt the alarm model ever got the signal since atm we have another bug where when a one-time alarm is triggered, it should be either disabled or removed , but it doesn't
[10:13] <zsombi> nik90: however if I add a slot now, that means API change now.... and perhaps we shouldn't do that
[10:13] <nik90> zsombi: I know that charles needs to do that on his end
[10:13] <zsombi> nik90: disabliong single-shot alarm is the resp of datetime indicator
[10:13] <zsombi> ok
[10:14] <zsombi> nik90: I also have a problem with updated sounds... they aint seem to be updated...
[10:14] <zsombi> nik90: when teh alarm kicks I mean
[10:14] <nik90> zsombi: I thought you had a MP fixing that?
[10:15] <zsombi> nik90: I did, and teh sound file gets changed... then tags screwed it up, and I fixed it again...
[10:15] <zsombi> nik90: but, the alarm sound is saved as attachment on teh main event, not sure whether teh occurrences do get that change as well... and the app shows the sound changed, but indicator still plays the first saved one...
[10:16] <nik90> zsombi: hmm...'
[10:17] <zsombi> nik90: the alarm sound is no longer saved as it used to be, as description, but it is always saved as attachment, no matter if it is disabled or not, as now we have a tag specifying that the alarm is disabled...
[10:17] <zsombi> nik90: so if you see in the app the changed sound, that means the event has it
[10:18] <nik90> zsombi: ok, I can then talk to charles to check if the sound attachment is read correctly for repeating alarms.
[10:18] <nik90> zsombi: since the change from description to attachment was done recently, not sure if charles adapted his code for that
[10:19] <zsombi> nik90: lemme get the bug
[10:19] <zsombi> nik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1364949
[10:20] <zsombi> nik90: however... update()... hmm...
[10:21] <zsombi> nik90: how would you know when to call it?
[10:21] <akiva-thinkpad> back
[10:21] <nik90> zsombi: Do you mind writing up a comment with the change you did (description to attachment etc) so that when charles looks at it, he can understand what needs to be fixed on his end.
[10:22] <nik90> zsombi: well I can check if there is a repeating alarm whose date property is a time in the past and then call update() then
[10:22] <zsombi> nik90: ah, that's damn ugly!
[10:22] <nik90> zsombi: atm I need to update the bottom edge title every minute either way
[10:23] <zsombi> nik90: check comment #3
[10:23] <zsombi> nik90: hehh?????!
[10:23] <zsombi> nik90: that consumes allot!
[10:23] <nik90> zsombi: how else do I update the title then?
[10:24] <zsombi> nik90: auuuuuuhhh..... damn!
[10:25] <zsombi> nik90: I can initiate auto-fetch for the model each time the app gains focus...
[10:26] <zsombi> nik90: but let it be, let's get a slot then...
[10:27] <zsombi> nik90: I see two bugs then in this: one is to auto-update the alarm data every time the app is focused, and teh one to expose update slot
[10:27] <zsombi> nik90: and I guess it would be nice to get tham as rtm, right? ;)
[10:27] <zsombi> nik90: coudl U pls submit tehse two bugs for me?
[10:27] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, so on a new default tabbed ui; I am getting this error on run :-1: error: lint_maintainer_format: invalid format for maintainer: maintainerName (should be like "Joe Bloggs <joe.bloggs@isp.com>")
[10:27] <akiva-thinkpad> http://askubuntu.com/questions/417351/what-does-lint-maintainer-format-mean/417352
[10:28] <nik90> zsombi: tbh I think the update slot is sufficient since the making the model reload when the app is focussed is a 2 line code for a app dev.
[10:28] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: ok then change the maintainer email in the manifest.json file
[10:28] <zsombi> nik90: and for me that is a simple connect :)
[10:28] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: it ain't that hard :)
[10:28] <akiva-thinkpad> heh cool
[10:28] <nik90> zsombi: kk cool, then do it on your end
[10:29] <zsombi> nik90: but yes, the update will be to force refresh... and one model call will refresh all other models as well!
[10:29] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, yep it runs in the emulator
[10:29] <akiva-thinkpad> good debugging skills :)
[10:30] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: ok, now install intltool in the armhf chroot that the emulator uses.
[10:30] <zsombi> nik90: just get me those bugs, I'll bbl
[10:30] <akiva-thinkpad> i'll try a core app with CMAKELISTS.
[10:30] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: tools->options->ubuntu->kits
[10:30] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, do I do that through adb
[10:30] <akiva-thinkpad> ah okay
[10:31] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: no not through adb...that's probably why it failed for you before
[10:31] <akiva-thinkpad> yes :P
[10:31] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: the click package is built in the schroot..not in the emulator
[10:31] <akiva-thinkpad> okay thanks
[10:31] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: so you essentially installed intltool in the wrong place
[10:31] <akiva-thinkpad> makes much more sense
[10:31] <dpm> popey, on my way
[10:32] <popey> ok
[10:33] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, there is no kits in ubuntu, just click, devices, and tabs
[10:33] <akiva-thinkpad> do you mean kits in build and run?
[10:33] <nik90> one sec let me check
[10:34] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: In Ubuntu, look in the click tab
[10:34] <akiva-thinkpad> there
[10:34] <akiva-thinkpad> got it
[10:35] <akiva-thinkpad> update, maintain, create?
[10:35] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: maintain
[10:35] <akiva-thinkpad> okay
[10:35] <akiva-thinkpad> ahhhhhh
[10:35] <akiva-thinkpad> AHHHHH
[10:35] <akiva-thinkpad> AH!
[10:35] <akiva-thinkpad> :D
[10:35] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: yeah AH!
[10:35] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: this is why you read the documentation at developer.ubuntu.com where it is explained clearly!
[10:36] <akiva-thinkpad> Yes. I read some, but not all.
[10:36] <akiva-thinkpad> this is honestly a good lesson for me
[10:38] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, okay that solved it.     "template": "unconfined",
[10:39] <akiva-thinkpad> what goes in place of unconfined?
[10:39] <akiva-thinkpad> just an empty string?
[10:39] <akiva-thinkpad> :-1: error: security_template_valid (apparmor.json): (MANUAL REVIEW) 'unconfined' not allowed
[10:39] <nik90> where the hell is that?
[10:39] <akiva-thinkpad> apparmor.json
[10:39] <akiva-thinkpad> in the music-app
[10:39] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: does that stop the music-app from running in the emulator?
[10:40] <akiva-thinkpad> yes
[10:40] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: yeah we need to bug zbenjamin about that
[10:40] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad, zbenjamin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1377094
[10:40] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, should I file a bug in music app, or is it something else?
[10:40] <akiva-thinkpad> ah okay
[10:40] <akiva-thinkpad> thanks
[10:40] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: no the music-app needs to run unconfined
[10:41] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: unfortunately the latest sdk does not allow apps with click-review errors to be run on devices
[10:41] <nik90> which is a critical stopper for us devs
[10:41] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, okay; i'll post a screeny for it
[10:41] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: one way to get around is to Build->Ubuntu->Install application on device
[10:42] <akiva-thinkpad> okay
[10:42] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: this will install the click on the emulator (or which ever device is chosen)
[10:42] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: then you launch it manually
[10:42] <akiva-thinkpad> you are quite sharp :)
[10:43] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: well when the emulator is one of the primary ways of testing stuff, you do what is required to get it working again.
[10:43] <akiva-thinkpad> heh
[10:43] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: in my case, I downgraded the sdk package to an older version
[10:44] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, still giving me the error
[10:44] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: the unconfined error?
[10:44] <akiva-thinkpad> yep
[10:44] <akiva-thinkpad> hmmmm
[10:44] <akiva-thinkpad> taking out unconfined does not work...
[10:45] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I think music-app requires unconfined to run properly, so you cannot remove that
[10:45] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: try installing the click manually through phablet-shell
[10:45] <nik90> adb push clickpackagename /tmp
[10:46] <akiva-thinkpad> sure
[10:46] <nik90> phablet-shell
[10:46] <nik90> cd /tmp
[10:46] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[10:46] <nik90> pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted clickpackagename
[10:48] <akiva-thinkpad> what directory do I do this from? The project, or the build directory?
[10:48] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: the directory where the music app click package was built in
[10:48] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: so most likely the build directory
[10:49] <akiva-thinkpad> okay thanks
[10:50] <akiva-thinkpad> and .click is the file I want?
[10:51] <nik90> Yes
[11:03] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, it appears to have failed; I think the existing music app blocked it
[11:03] <akiva-thinkpad> what directory is the emulator in... /me looks
[11:04] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: don't touch the emulator directory
[11:04] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, I want to put a song in it
[11:04] <akiva-thinkpad> so I can test in
[11:04] <akiva-thinkpad> it*
[11:04] <akiva-thinkpad> thats all
[11:04] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: work the chroot or the app log files in the emulator itself
[11:04] <nik90> but not the emulator config directory
[11:05] <mihir> hey akiva-thinkpad :)
[11:05] <akiva-thinkpad> mihir, ah hey
[11:05] <akiva-thinkpad> how goes calendar app?
[11:05] <mihir> yeah good.
[11:06] <mihir> nik90: regarding the renato's MR, how do we test EDS , do we build it manually and test ?
[11:06] <nik90> mihir: there should be a deb package generated by jenkins
[11:06] <nik90> mihir: in the mp
[11:07] <popey> akiva-thinkpad: could you take a look at your six merges at http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ - upgrade-ubuntu-components-1.1 and update-imports-to-qtquick-2.3...
[11:07] <popey> akiva-thinkpad: seems some of them need response or update from you.
[11:07] <mihir> nik90: okay, so we just install that deb pacakge, which update our EDS and then we test respective application , have i understood correctly ?
[11:07] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, yah sure
[11:08] <akiva-thinkpad> I'll make sure thats done by the end of the day
[11:08] <popey> thanks!
[11:08] <nik90> mihir: yes, you install the deb on your phone and restart it to make sure EDS service is properly refreshed
[11:08] <nik90> mihir: you will have to make your phone writable
[11:08] <nik90> mihir: I think that is phablet-config writable-image
[11:08] <nik90> I think^^
[11:08] <nik90> check the manual for phablet-config --help
[11:09] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, nice defense of ubuntu btw on unplugged :P Mr level headed
[11:09] <mihir> nik90: okay, i'll try tonight and will ping you if i get stuck.
[11:10] <nik90> mihir: well hopefully you don't get stuck, but let me know how it goes
[11:10] <mihir> nik90: (y) thanks.
[11:11] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: yeah I am kinda hating on LAS for bashing ubuntu or ubuntu touch in every freaking episode..I mean give us a break
[11:11] <mihir> popey: if you missed that, we need update in store for calendar.
[11:11] <popey> mihir: I did see, thank you.
[11:12] <mihir> popey: i poked that very early in the morning though , so just to keep that in your radar :D
[11:12] <popey> mihir: uhm...
[11:12] <popey> store has calendar r489
[11:12] <popey> aside from translation, trunk is r490
[11:13]  * mihir wonders.
[11:13] <popey> it was updated in the store on thursday
[11:13] <mihir> popey: okay i'll test again and update you , because we resolved event loading issues.
[11:14] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, heh; yah I'm sort of on the verge of not watching anymore. Its that arch linux; its a bad influence on chris :P
[11:14] <akiva-thinkpad> Anyways they will come around; Chris is fairly good at that
[11:14]  * akiva-thinkpad gets back to it.
[11:15] <popey> mihir: excellent
[11:15] <popey> akiva-thinkpad: thanks for the support. seems quite a few people were annoyed at chris for that episode
[11:15] <popey> hey ho ☻
[11:16] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[11:16] <akiva-thinkpad> I'm kind of surprised that no one has brought up that there is an alternate browser to firefox sitting in 14.04 and 14.10.
[11:20] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, anyways theres my error http://i.imgur.com/op1FZsE.png
[11:20] <akiva-thinkpad> its not letting me install the click package
[11:21] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I meant install the click package in the emulator
[11:21] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, ah
[11:21] <akiva-thinkpad> in abg or in the ubuntu method?
[11:21] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: let me pastebin it
[11:22] <akiva-thinkpad> thanks for your patience; I swear it will be worth it in the end!
[11:23] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8506701/
[11:23] <akiva-thinkpad> thanks
[11:25] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, beautiful
[11:27] <karni> Hi guys, any suggestions on generating thumbnails for video files from c++ on Ubuntu? /with whatever is available in the image, or few dependencies that we could include/
[11:27] <karni> Found this, but it seems ffmpeg is not part of the image https://code.google.com/p/ffmpegthumbnailer/
[11:28] <akiva-thinkpad> karni, hmmmm
[11:28] <akiva-thinkpad> karni, you know I think a good place to ask may be the kdenlive mailing list.
[11:28] <karni> Does content hub provide thumbnailing capability? /me reads the docs
[11:29] <karni> akiva-thinkpad: better than ubuntu-phone mailing list?
[11:29] <akiva-thinkpad> karni, for video.... well you are looking for a c++ library I am presuming?
[11:30] <karni> akiva-thinkpad: yes, but if there's existing library in Ubuntu, that's even better
[11:30] <akiva-thinkpad> karni, I'm not expert, so I can't say "Don't ask ubuntu-phone mailing list"
[11:30] <akiva-thinkpad> but I know kdenlive is an active project, and imho, the nicest nle on linux
[11:31] <karni> oh I see! thanks, akiva-thinkpad :)
[11:32] <karni> akiva-thinkpad: fun, I was thinking I could use a video edittor some time soon ;)
[11:32] <akiva-thinkpad> karni, yah; the GUI given that it uses qt, is so extremely and beautifully flexible
[11:32] <akiva-thinkpad> not as stable as fcp, but the GUI I think is literally the best on the market.
[11:35] <popey> karni: there is a thumbnailer on the phone
[11:36] <popey> karni: it's used by the video scope
[11:36] <karni> popey: sounds promising, thank you!
[11:36] <popey> libthumbnailer0 is the package...
[11:36] <karni> popey: \o/ !!
[11:40] <zbenjamin> nik90: argh, yeah i forgot that , thanks for reminding. It seems the click-review tools see it as a invalid architecture
[11:40] <zbenjamin> nik90: and i don't understand why
[11:41] <nik90> zbenjamin: also music-app needs to run unconfined on the phone which click-reviewers won't accept
[11:41] <nik90> zbenjamin: either way it should just shows the errors and then still deply on device
[11:42] <zbenjamin> nik90: yeah you are right, its easy to change that but zoltan is not here today to land the changes but i hope we can land it tomorrow
[11:42] <nik90> zbenjamin: np, I downgraded to an older package atm that works
[11:43] <dpm> hi JamesTait, has there been any update in uploading the department's translations to the server?
[11:44] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, In order to test the app; I need to toss a music file in the emulators /home/Music directory
[11:44] <akiva-thinkpad> should be last question; do you knwo where that is?
[11:45] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: it should be /home/phablet/Music
[11:45] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: in the emulator and phone, the default user is phablet
[11:46] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, yep; but do you know where that is on my os; where the chroot is sitting?
[11:46] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: why do you need the chroot?
[11:46] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: just do "adb push mymusic /home/phablet/Music"
[11:47] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, oh :DDD
[11:47] <akiva-thinkpad> AH
[11:47] <akiva-thinkpad> okay
[11:47] <akiva-thinkpad> okay I think I'm good now
[11:47] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: look the chroot is used ONLY for building the click. For building core apps, you need intltool. hence you install that in the chroot and not in the emulator
[11:47] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: the rest should be done in the emulator (or phone)
[11:48] <akiva-thinkpad> okay so that is a good principle. In cases of build issues, refer to chroot. In cases of running, refer to adb
[11:50] <dpm> popey, quick question: we can do updates of apps in the store for a particular bzr rev, can't we? I.e. we can create a .click for Reminders r260 instead of taking trunk, correct?
[11:50] <popey> yes
[11:50] <popey> jenkins has the clicks already
[11:51] <popey> just say which one you want and we can build/use it
[11:52] <dpm> popey, ok, cool. So could we do a store upload for Reminders r260 today? This fixes an rtm localization bug, and doesn't need any particular coordination. We can then do the migration of the account from .deb to .click in the next couple of days
[11:53] <dpm> in summary, only an upload for r260 today
[11:53] <akiva-thinkpad> ahayzen, nik90 http://i.imgur.com/atUz61n.png looks like success.
[11:53] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, thank you so much for walking me through that
[11:54] <akiva-thinkpad> You have no idea how greatful I am
[11:54] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: finally :D...glad to see it working
[11:54] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, well it doesnt play music, but I presume thats the emulator :P
[11:54] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: qtcreator-ubuntu-plugin should be patched to work in a day or two. then you can use qtc for the whole thing
[11:54] <ahayzen> akiva-thinkpad, \o/
[11:54] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: yeah that's an emulator thing
[11:54] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[11:54] <akiva-thinkpad> ahayzen, your still up?
[11:54] <akiva-thinkpad> or are you just getting up?
[11:54] <ahayzen> akiva-thinkpad, i'm just waking up....its 1300 for me...
[11:55] <akiva-thinkpad> okay
[11:55]  * ahayzen wasn't up until 0530 this morning woops
[11:55] <akiva-thinkpad> heh
[11:55] <akiva-thinkpad> well I'll finish off the lingering merges and head to bed
[11:55] <nik90> ahayzen: btw did the staggered gridview work?
[11:55] <nik90> ahayzen: if it does, I can accept the answer
[11:55] <ahayzen> nik90, yep
[11:55] <ahayzen> nik90, just got one bug to sort
[11:55] <ahayzen> nik90, its looking awesome though thanks for asking the question on stackoverflow
[11:56] <ahayzen> nik90, there just seems to be a weird bug when an item is removed from the model
[11:57] <ahayzen> popey, are we able to have two clicks in ur remix folder? one on the latest lp:music-app/remix and one to demo lp:~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-add-card-view to jouni
[11:59] <popey> ahayzen: remix folder?
[11:59] <ahayzen> popey, "Test builds will be in the form of click packages located at http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/"
[11:59] <popey> oh i see
[12:00] <popey> i thought you meant on device
[12:00] <popey> sure.
[12:00] <ahayzen> popey, haha thanks
[12:00] <ahayzen> popey, do u want me to build them or can u?
[12:03] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, when I see Click here to trigger a rebuild:
[12:03] <akiva-thinkpad> http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-terminal-app-ci/101/rebuild
[12:03] <akiva-thinkpad> does that actually trigger a rebuild, as in jenkins checks it again?
[12:03] <akiva-thinkpad> I feel like when I press it, it doesnt do this
[12:03] <popey> no, only some people have rights to rebuild
[12:03] <popey> if you ping me, i can do it
[12:04] <popey> Just triggered that one
[12:05] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, okay so if I just send you a link like this http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/stock-ticker-mobile-app-ci/20/rebuild
[12:05] <akiva-thinkpad> that works best for you I am assuming
[12:05] <akiva-thinkpad> as you can just click it in irc?
[12:05] <popey> yup, thats fine
[12:05] <akiva-thinkpad> okay good to know.
[12:09] <akiva-thinkpad> ERROR:pbuilderjenkins:pdebuild failed?
[12:26] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: can you explain to me what you did in this MR with the empty commit ? https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/camera-app/slideshow_use_photo_not_thumbnail/+merge/237093
[12:26] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: i don't see any changes that would use the downscaled picture instead of the thumbnail
[12:26] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, I added a tag with the empty commit
[12:26] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, there is a commit before
[12:27] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, revision 402
[12:27] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: not in that MR that LP would show me
[12:27] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: can you resubmit the MR so it shows it ?
[12:27] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, LP is showing me a diff
[12:27] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, fix your browser
[12:27] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: 8	- source: slideshowView.inView ? "image://thumbnailer/" + fileURL.toString() : ""
[12:27] <nerochiaro> 9	+ source: slideshowView.inView ? (media.isVideo ? "image://thumbnailer/" + fileURL.toString() : fileURL) : ""
[12:27] <nerochiaro> that's the only diff
[12:27] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, yes
[12:27] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, and that's it
[12:28] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, I guess, read it 10 times
[12:28] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: so it does not do what you claim it does in the description
[12:28] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, and then ask again
[12:28] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, it does, I assure you
[12:28] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, I saw it with my own eyes
[12:28] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, and the code makes sense
[12:29] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: it does, but what it does is using the thumbnailer for videos. you claim it downscales the picture instead of using a thumbnail. that sounds the opposite
[12:29] <Kaleo> nerochiaro, the change is only for photos
[12:35] <JamesTait> dpm, no update as yet, currencies has taken priority the last week.
[12:37] <dpm> JamesTait, thanks. What's blocking the upload, is it just finding the right person to do it? Is there an RT filed we could prioritise?
[12:42] <JamesTait> dpm, (sorry, otp) in the first instance, yes, it's just a matter of resource.  It needs an SCA admin to do the upload, so not sure if an RT is appropriate.  Might need to be a bug task instead.
[13:00] <akiva-thinkpad> Can someone push this through asap so I don't have to merge it with trunk again ? lp:~akiva/ubuntu-filemanager-app/update-imports-to-qtquick-2.3
[13:00] <akiva-thinkpad> this one too: it passed https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/ubuntu-terminal-app/update-imports-to-qtquick-2.3/+merge/235371
[13:01] <popey> akiva-thinkpad: done
[13:01] <popey> also done
[13:01] <akiva-thinkpad> !cookie | popey
[13:01] <akiva-thinkpad> lets see... what else
[13:02] <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
[13:03] <akiva-thinkpad> lol!
[13:03] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/ubuntu-docviewer-app/upgrade-ubuntu-components-1.1/+merge/232991 this one looks good as well
[13:03] <popey> done
[13:03] <popey> thank you!
[13:03] <popey> \o/
[13:04] <akiva-thinkpad> np; sorry it was lingering in that queue for so long
[13:04] <akiva-thinkpad> sudoku app failed; I'll have to take a look at that.
[13:04] <popey> awesome
[13:08] <ogra_> jdstrand, seeing your last upload ... how would dekko work if it i.e. ships its own webkit copy ... (once we dropped the one from the framework and you remove that apparmor rule again )
[13:09] <ogra_> wouldnt that stll need such a rule then ?
[13:13] <akiva-thinkpad> So did stock tickler
[13:13] <akiva-thinkpad> err
[13:13] <akiva-thinkpad> ticker
[13:24] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/ubuntu-clock-app/1363968-no-animation-secondshand-updates-every-second/+merge/234618 <<< if they ever got back to you, this is just a reminder. I merged from trunk so should be good for a merge
[13:25] <akiva-thinkpad> well anyhow; I'll catch y'all tomorrow
[13:25] <akiva-thinkpad> night
[13:25] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: will check again today
[13:26] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, I also did some time ago a fading opacity animation; It looked better, but obviously used more cpu
[13:26] <akiva-thinkpad> not as much as it currently is
[13:26] <akiva-thinkpad> anyways
[13:26] <akiva-thinkpad> later
[13:49] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: when i run an app that is already installed, i get asked if i want to override the installed app. if I say yes, it fails to uninstall the app (at least with gallery and camera). do you know why ? I asked already last week but i think i missed your answer
[13:50] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: and i can't rename the apps because the renamed app will not have the same permissions as the original and i need to test things that require these permissions
[13:50] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: it seems its not possible to uninstall preinstalled apps
[13:50] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: didn't we workaround the issue on your machine by changing the applauncher script?
[13:51] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: i don't think we did
[13:51] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: you can comment the uninstall step out in the qtc_device_applauncher.py , its somewhere in /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts i think
[13:52] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: but this will break overriding already installed scopes
[13:52] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: they need the uninstall step, thats why i introduced it in the first place
[13:53] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: i don't do scopes, so this is ok for me. can you point me to the file where the override should be ?
[13:54] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: did you find the python script?
[13:54] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: no, that's what i'm asking
[13:55] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: qtc_device_applaunch.py ?
[13:55] <zbenjamin> yes
[13:58] <dpm> popey, I won't be joining the core apps review call today. Would you mind running it? I didn't have any additional topics other than the ones we already talked about this morning (reminders update, music app artist thumbnail bug, MP reviews)
[13:58] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: for me its line 344 - 347
[13:58] <popey> ok
[13:58] <popey> dpm: was hoping to discuss reminders with you
[13:59] <zbenjamin> nerochiaro: search for print("Sdk-Launcher> Uninstalling already installed package (--force-install)")
[13:59] <popey> dpm: we can't upload 260 to the store as the store has already seen 261
[13:59] <nerochiaro> zbenjamin: got it. commented out the exit() call and it works
[13:59] <popey> dpm: need to revert 261 to make 265 for example to upload that.
[14:00] <popey> because 261 failed
[14:02] <popey> balloons: you around?
[14:02] <dpm> popey, can't we not just re-version the package? r261 is a complex MP that I wouldn't like to revert, as it'd be quite a lot of work
[14:03] <popey> I'll have a word with balloons and try
[14:04] <balloons> yea, just a sec.. my pc decided to blow up
[14:04] <nik90> zbenjamin, nerochiaro: bug 1377090
[14:04] <nik90> I also have that bug with clock app
[14:08] <nik90> charles_: We have a regression with rtm image r71. I disabled an alarm in the clock app and it still rings at the intended time. I even rebooted the clock app to see if it was properly disabled and the alarm model shows it has been disabled and yet it rings. Can you try on your end and confirm if you see it?
[14:15] <dpm> davidcalle, I've started reviewing your scopes tutorial, looks great so far. I'll put it to the test trying to write my first scope tonight :)
[14:16] <davidcalle> dpm, nice ! :)
[14:17] <dpm> davidcalle, I created the blueprint with the roadmap we discussed last week. Did you get an e-mail notification?
[14:18] <davidcalle> dpm, yes, notified
[14:18] <dpm> cool
[14:18] <dpm> davidcalle, let me know if it looks ok to you
[14:19] <davidcalle> dpm, it does :)
[14:19] <dpm> rock on
[14:46] <t1mp> who needed the selection mode for the header?
[14:46] <t1mp> bfiller, renatu, nik90 ^ it is in UITK staging now
[14:47] <t1mp> ^this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1370146
[14:47] <nik90> t1mp: yup I saw :p
[14:47] <t1mp> :)
[14:51] <renatu> t1mp, thanks, what it does exactly? :D
[14:54] <nik90> t1mp: you are making me revert my code unnecessarily :D
[14:56] <renatu> t1mp, any visaual change from what the apps already do today?
[14:57] <t1mp> renatu: in selection mode, the title is hidden, and the action icons get a label with text
[14:58] <t1mp> s/mode/preset
[14:58] <renatu> t1mp, haaa the labels , nice
[14:58] <renatu> t1mp, when this will be released?
[14:59] <t1mp> renatu: our next landing. I guess zoltan will start that this week and if all goes well it should go in the image by the end of this week
[14:59] <t1mp> renatu: but it is out of my hands, depends a lot on how the landing process goes
[14:59] <renatu> t1mp, greate I will update the app as soon as we get this released, thanks
[15:00] <t1mp> renatu: okay, cool. I will let you know when it lands.
[15:09] <charles> nik90, yes, will test with an RTM image
[15:29] <nik90> fginther, balloons: Can you enable the WM focus thing in jenkins we discussed last week since it is blocking 4-5 MPs of mine due to AP failures
[15:30] <balloons> fginther, I also wanted to chat about how sudoku enablement is coming ;-) Happy Monday morning  to you!
[15:31] <balloons> nik90, do you have anything written up about your lxc development env?
[15:31] <nik90> balloons: written? as in blog?
[15:32] <balloons> nik90, written as in noted anywhere that can be read :-)
[15:32] <nik90> balloons: http://nik90.com/fiddling-around-with-lxc-containers/
[15:33] <nik90> balloons: tbh I don't think it matters since the app is still run in the host desktop environment which for me is 14.04 Unity
[15:33] <balloons> nik90, awesome!
[15:37] <fginther> nik90, if balloons is happy with the approach, I can get it added this week
[15:38] <fginther> balloons, can you remind me what the sudoku enablement is? Did I miss a message?
[15:39] <balloons> fginther, https://bugs.launchpad.net/sudoku-app/+bug/1324823
[15:40] <balloons> fginther, sudoku is apparently built using an old method for building; needs migrated to cmake
[15:41] <nik90> fginther: It would be awesome if it can be done by wednesday or thursday. Just give me a ping when it does land in jenkins. This way I can then start merging them one by one and release a clock app to the store this friday.
[15:43] <balloons> fginther, on the the window manager thing, I am happy with the approach. It definitely fixes the clock issue, and likely has been a source of weird bugs in the past. A few come to mind ;-)
[15:43] <mhall119_> kenvandine: ping
[15:44] <kenvandine> mhall119, pong
[15:44] <mhall119> kenvandine: hey, I need content hub help
[15:45] <mhall119> kenvandine: when I get an image exported to my app (memebook) it goes into ~/.cache/
[15:45] <mhall119> I want to permanently move it to ~/.local/share/com.ubuntu.developer.mhall119.memebok/Pictures/
[15:45] <kenvandine> mhall119, you can use the ContentItem.move() function
[15:46] <mhall119> but using ContentItem.move() fails
[15:47] <fginther> nik90, thanks for the timeline feedback. I think that's do-able.
[15:48] <fginther> balloons, is someone working on the cmake migration for sudoko? I can update the click builder job once that's done
[15:51] <balloons> fginther, it looks ready to me
[15:51] <fginther> balloons, ack
[15:51] <balloons> I tried a quick build, works
[15:53] <mhall119> mzanetti: do we have any actual docs for the splash screen, or just what was in your email?
[16:03] <kenvandine> mhall119, it's failing under confinement right?
[16:07] <kenvandine> mhall119, maybe it's the same as the problem ahayzen ran into, which i haven't figured out yet
[16:07] <kenvandine> it did work under confinement :)
[16:08] <kenvandine> ahayzen, btw, i haven't forgotten that... settings has been keeping me drowning
[16:08] <ahayzen> kenvandine, no worries we are totally focused on the remix at the moment anyway
[16:08] <ahayzen> kenvandine, but it would be "nice to have" as the app would then potentially be confined
[16:08] <mhall119> kenvandine: it's running under confinement yes, and seems to be a confinement issue it's running into
[16:09] <kenvandine> mhall119,  bug 1373086
[16:09] <kenvandine> we had tested that with my hub-importer under confinement...
[16:09] <mhall119> kenvandine: when I start the import from my app using the app scope on the ContentStore the move() works fine, because the file is already in ~/.local/share/<appid>/
[16:10] <mhall119> but when it's started from another app, like the browser, it puts it into ~/.cache/ and I don't have the opportunity to change the ContentStore scope
[16:10] <kenvandine> mhall119, yeah... that's why we added move()
[16:10] <kenvandine> mhall119, but we don't see DENIALs
[16:10] <kenvandine> which is puzzling
[16:11] <rpadovani> hey mardy did you have time to take a look to core dump in reminders with two account service model?
[16:12] <ahayzen> kenvandine, and mediascanner2 could see the file but only the folders were created
[16:12] <ahayzen> kenvandine, you found some docs for the qt rename that pointed towards what was going on?
[16:12] <kenvandine> yeah, but that's is kind of explained in the api docs
[16:13] <ahayzen> yeah
[16:13] <kenvandine> rename still creates the empty file if it fails, then removes it
[16:13] <ahayzen> but why does it fail is the real question
[16:13] <kenvandine> right
[16:13] <kenvandine> and if it is confinement, why no DENIAL
[16:13] <ahayzen> and i didn't spot any denials
[16:13] <ahayzen> magic :)
[16:13] <kenvandine> i need to spend some time on it, but can't yet
[16:14] <kenvandine> unless this bugs gets triaged with a higher priority :)
[16:15] <mhall119> kenvandine: does the .move() code execute in the same process as the app, or does it send a message to ContentHub to do the work?
[16:15] <kenvandine> i keep getting criticals for settings to work on, or review, test and land
[16:15] <kenvandine> as the app
[16:15] <kenvandine> mhall119, which should be fine
[16:15] <mhall119> kenvandine: then it shouldn't be confinement related, as the app should have read+write on it's ~/.cache/<appid> directory
[16:15] <kenvandine> rightr
[16:15] <ahayzen> mhall119, yeah thats wht was strange
[16:15] <kenvandine> mhall119, but ahayzen said it works for him unconfined
[16:16] <mhall119> unless the apparmor profile is wrong
[16:16] <mhall119> jdstrand: mdeslaur: ping
[16:16] <ahayzen> kenvandine, yeah unconfined it was fine
[16:16] <kenvandine> but no denials
[16:16] <kenvandine> jdstrand did comment on the bug
[16:16] <mhall119> ok
[16:16] <popey> dpm: in reminders, my notes are sorted by creation date, i think they should be  by modified date, don't you?
[16:17] <popey> balloons: can you upload http://popey.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.reminders_0.5.262_armhf.click to the store please?
[16:17] <rpadovani> popey, that's a good point, mzanetti ^^
[16:17] <rpadovani> have to go+
[16:18] <popey> o/
[16:18] <dpm> popey, I've argued to make this an option in a settings page (also to sort ascending/descending). But I agree, modification might be the best default
[16:18] <dpm> popey, would you mind filing a bug?
[16:18] <popey> sure
[16:22] <popey> done
[16:33] <ahayzen> popey, do we need to have a meeting about anything?
[16:33] <popey> ahayzen: given we had one earlier today, i think not?
[16:34] <ahayzen> popey, yeah, do you know if jouni managed to install the clicks?
[16:34] <jdstrand> kenvandine: not there are a few explicit denials in the policy which silence logging (though not many). to see them, apparmor_parser -p /path/to/profile | grep deny
[16:35] <jdstrand> s/not/note/
[16:35] <popey> ahayzen: i don't. will poke him in the morning.
[16:35] <ahayzen> popey, cool thanks
[16:41] <balloons> popey, uploaded
[16:45] <ahayzen> balloons, ping
[16:50] <balloons> ahayzen, pong
[16:50] <ahayzen> balloons, i've got a mini autopilot issue mind helping me out?
[16:50] <balloons> ahayzen, sure, shoot
[16:50] <ahayzen> balloons, this is the jenkins failure http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-python3/729/
[16:50] <ahayzen> balloons, this is the mp https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-remove-legacy-toolbar/+merge/237208
[16:51] <ahayzen> balloons, it has some weird error when trying to check the property self.isListView ?
[16:52] <ahayzen> balloons, you can see on the video it makes it to the now playing page...but what it should be doing is deciding if it need to click the header button or not
[16:56] <zbenjamin> nik90: https://code.launchpad.net/~zeller-benjamin/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/deployandrunbug/+merge/237315
[16:56] <zbenjamin> nik90: it will ask you now if you want to ignore the errors and continues if you want
[16:57] <mzanetti> popey: hmm.. should they?
[16:57] <mzanetti> (re: notes sorting order)
[16:59] <mzanetti> popey, rpadovani: evernote website sorts them by creation date
[16:59] <mzanetti> which is where I copied behavior mostly
[16:59] <balloons> ahayzen, looking
[16:59] <mhall119> mzanetti: ping
[16:59] <balloons> ahayzen, I assume this works locally yes?
[16:59] <ahayzen> balloons, thanks i'm just unsure what is going wrong
[17:00] <ahayzen> balloons, hmm probably not
[17:00] <ahayzen> balloons, i havent' actually tried
[17:00] <balloons> ahayzen, lol.. well that's the first thing to check ;-)
[17:00] <ahayzen> balloons, ok hehe :)
[17:00] <mhall119> mzanetti: do you know if we have any written documentation on the app splash screen other that what was sent to the ubuntu-phone list?
[17:00] <balloons> ahayzen, I can still help you of course, but if it's not a 'jenkins' issue that is so much easier
[17:00]  * balloons tries locally
[17:01] <ahayzen> balloons, hehe i'll try on device as well
[17:04] <ahayzen> balloons, hah test_add_song_to_queue_from_albums_page worked for me i think
[17:04] <ahayzen> balloons, hmmm but that had old ~/autopilot god sake
[17:05] <balloons> music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_add_song_to_queue_from_albums_page fails the same as jenkins for m
[17:06] <mzanetti> mhall119: I think there is something in the works, let me find out
[17:06] <ahayzen> balloons, ok i get the same failure now
[17:07] <ahayzen> balloons, so now may question is ... any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[17:07] <ahayzen> *my question
[17:07] <mhall119> thanks mzanetti
[17:09] <ahayzen> balloons, it is weird how all the failing ones are the "if not self.isListView" but the "if self.isListView" ones appear to work?
[17:10] <ahayzen> balloons, oh i have an idea what todo i think i've had this before
[17:10] <ahayzen> balloons, u have to like reget the object as it has changed
[17:13] <mzanetti> mhall119: can't find it atm. where would you say this should be documented?
[17:13] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah that fixed that issue now onto the next one aha
[17:13] <mhall119> mzanetti: it should be on http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/platform/guides/
[17:13] <mhall119> mzanetti: but I can put it on there, if it's already written somewhere else
[17:14] <mzanetti> mhall119: this are the possible keys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8508728/
[17:16] <popey> mzanetti: the new evernote web doesn't. it sorts by "date updated (newest first)"
[17:17] <mzanetti> popey: "the new"?
[17:17]  * mzanetti missed something :)
[17:17] <popey> yeah, they have a new web ui, very clean
[17:17] <mzanetti> oh... is that the popup in the beginning where I clicked "no thanks" without reading?
[17:18] <ahayzen> balloons, thanks for your help :) sometimes just talking to someone helps
[17:18] <popey> yes mzanetti ☻
[17:22] <mzanetti> mhall119: hmm... was just reading the code... seems the color entries can have those values: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/types.html#ColorKeywords
[17:23] <balloons> ahayzen, you are welcome. Yes, a general rule of thumb is to grab the object just before you need it so you don't run into issues where things change underneath
[17:23] <mzanetti> mhall119: Show-Header is a boolean (TRUE/true/FALSE/false), the others are strings
[17:23] <mzanetti> mhall119: let me know if you need more details
[17:24] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah the issue we have is we grab the object when it is hidden (to read certain vars)...and then sometimes show it and need to do other things...so u have to regrab it after showing
[17:25] <mzanetti> popey: aha! have the new version now. let me play around with it and compare behavior
[17:26] <popey> kk
[17:29] <mzanetti> popey: do you know what "shortcuts" does?
[17:29] <mhall119> thanks mzanetti
[17:30] <popey> mzanetti: nope
[17:31] <balloons> ahayzen, ack
[17:34] <mhall119> mzanetti: so X-Ubuntu-Splash-Color(.*) can take any of the SVG color names, in addition to hex codes?
[17:34] <mihir> nik90, popey what does this mean , :-1: error: security_policy_groups_safe_calendar (calendar): (MANUAL REVIEW) reserved policy group 'calendar': vetted applications only
[17:35] <mzanetti> mhall119: I'm afraid it takes only svg color names atm reading the code. need to test and verify. but if so I would say that's a bug
[17:35] <mhall119> mihir: sounds like you need special app store approval to get that security policy
[17:35] <nik90> mhall119: it accepts stuff like White, Gray etc... in addition to hex codes
[17:35] <mhall119> heh, who to believe.....
[17:35] <mhall119> just kidding, of course I believe nik90 ;)
[17:35] <nik90> mzanetti: I tried setting White and it worked :)
[17:35] <nik90> mhall119: lol
[17:36] <nik90> mihir: let me guess, you got that by running calendar on the emulator or device with latest qtc?
[17:36] <mihir> mhall119, i am just trying to run calendar app from qtc
[17:36] <mihir> nik90, device
[17:36]  * nik90 can read minds
[17:36] <mihir> !coockie
[17:36]  * mihir don't remember the command..
[17:36] <nik90> mihir: calendar and clock are special app since they require special permission which are usual not granted to 3rd party apps. That's why you see that message that "calendar" is reserved.
[17:37] <nik90> its cookie :)
[17:37] <mihir> yeah , bad at spellings lol
[17:37] <mihir> nik90, so what needs to be done ?
[17:37] <nik90> mihir: at the moment, qtc doesn't allow apps to be deployed on devices that fail the click reviewers tool
[17:37] <nik90> mihir: I was told by zbenjamin that he has fixed it and it is just waiting to be released as an update
[17:37] <mihir> nik90, ahhh, so then we need to do manual push to device ?
[17:38] <nik90> mihir: until then you need to manually install the click on the device
[17:38] <mzanetti> mhall119: yeah... only supports color names... will fix
[17:38] <mihir> nik90, okay
[17:38] <nik90> mihir: update should hopefully come tomorrow
[17:39] <nik90> mihir: here's the MP that fixes stuff https://code.launchpad.net/~zeller-benjamin/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/deployandrunbug/+merge/237315
[17:39] <nik90> mihir: if you so wish you can grab the deb and install now to make it work
[17:40] <nik90> zbenjamin: btw thnx for the quick fix :)
[17:41] <mihir> nik90, okay , to get deb form jenkins , in which section should i go ?
[17:42] <nik90> mihir: there is a comment by jenkins in the MP. There should be a link there wihch ends with output.zip
[17:43] <nik90> hmm actually I don't see it either
[17:43] <nik90> strange...I use that method with other package MPs
[17:43] <mihir> nik90, yeah looked for that firstly , but couldn't find it :|
[17:49] <mzanetti> mhall119: correction: it does work with color codes too: to be precise those: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qcolor.html#setNamedColor
[17:55] <mhall119> mzanetti: see, there's a reason I believed nik90 :)
[17:56] <mzanetti> yep. although his test didn't really prove anything :D
[17:56] <nik90> lol
[17:56] <mzanetti> nik90: :)
[18:01] <mihir> nik90, when you get time to review this small MR, https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/calendar-splash/+merge/237319
[18:02]  * nik90 isn't happy that calendar and music have got to the splash screen stuff before clock (despite reporting the bug) :P
[18:03] <ahayzen> nik90, hehe victor was quick on music :)
[18:03] <ahayzen> anything that makes it seem like music starts faster :P
[18:03] <nik90> ahayzen: I know..I repot the bug and few hours later the MR is ready and merged...damn you both for being quick
[18:08] <fginther> nik90, can you provide an MP that showing problems due to the WM focus issue?
[18:08] <nik90> fginther: sure, 1 sec
[18:09] <nik90> fginther: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/sync-bottomedge-sep08/+merge/236604
[18:12] <vitimiti> Hi
[18:13] <popey> mihir: is that translatable?
[18:13] <mihir> popey, you mean the title i set in .in file ?
[18:14] <popey> yes
[18:14] <mihir> can we put i18 over there, I am not sure honestly
[18:15] <popey> I think dpm was going to file a bug about i18n on the splash
[18:15] <popey> because we don't want to land anything non-translatable in the apps if we can help it
[18:16] <mihir> popey, i agreed, i just looked at Music app , they just wrote it simply..i just checked that..shall we put this on HOLD until we get translation fix ?
[18:16] <ahayzen> ..and we just copied address book...
[18:17] <popey> bug 1377896
[18:17] <mihir> ahayzen, hehehe :|
[18:18] <mihir> popey, okay then lets wait until we get fix over here.
[18:18] <ahayzen> mihir, ours has only landed in the remix and not trunk so we can add a fix when it appears
[18:18]  * ahayzen adds music as also affected
[18:18]  * popey commented on your merge
[18:19] <mihir> ahayzen, i see that :)
[18:19] <mihir> popey, thanks for pointing out.
[18:19] <popey> np
[18:19] <popey> dpm actually pointed it out to me
[18:19] <ahayzen> ...ok i can't add also affects?
[18:21] <popey> i would just mark your merge as blocked on that bug
[18:21] <fginther> nik90, thanks
[18:22] <ahayzen> popey, our merge landed already
[18:22] <ahayzen> popey, but only in /remix so not too much of a worry....yet
[18:22] <popey> heh, okay
[18:29] <nik90> popey: but contacts and addressbook have already merged theirs
[18:29] <nik90> its in rtm images
[18:29] <nik90> sry contacts and system settings :P
[18:33] <popey> yeah, unfortunately
[18:33] <popey> brb
[19:00] <mardy> rpadovani: hi! Yes, the problem is in accounts-qml-module, and the fix is in a silo right now: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu&q=landing-014
[19:00] <rpadovani> mardy, yay! Thanks!
[19:15] <renatu> mihir, did you have a chance to test https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/qtorganizer5-eds/fix-1311165/+merge/237142?
[19:18] <mihir> hey renatu i am doing that right now.
[19:19] <renatu> mihir, you can use jenkins packages
[19:19] <nik90> renatu: I am using my ubuntu phone as a daily phone (to do some longer period testing of clock), is there a way to quickly revert if something goes wrong?
[19:19] <renatu> nik90, re-install the mainline package :D
[19:19] <mihir> renatu, yes i am pushing it to my phone
[19:20] <nik90> renatu: cool, I will test against clock as well to be sure in a few mins.
[19:23] <mihir> nik90, renatu after doing phablet-shell , this should install the work right, sudo dpkg -i qtorganizer5-eds_0.1.1+14.10.20141001.4bzr71pkg0utopic31-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb ?
[19:23] <nik90> mihir: yes
[19:23] <mihir> nik90, it says, dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[19:24] <mihir> nik90, got it
[19:24] <mihir> :)
[19:24] <nik90> mihir: make it writable then with phablet-config
[19:24] <nik90> hmm I remember telling you this in the morning :-)
[19:24] <mihir> nik90, i just recalled it :D
[19:24] <nik90> lol
[19:25] <mihir> nik90, the issue is i don't have chat history , because at office i use web freenode so as soon as i close window all gone hehe
[19:25] <nik90> mihir: yeah you should get a irc bouncer so that everyone can reach you even when you are offline
[19:25] <nik90> that's what me and rpadovani do
[19:26] <mihir> nik90, how do we do that ?
[19:27] <nik90> mihir: look it up for more detailed info, to summarise shortly it involves using a online service to stay online 24/7. You connect to that online service to retrieve your messages. I use irccloud.com for instance
[19:28]  * ahayzen wonders if a RPi could do this job
[19:28] <mihir> nik90, okay i'll try that..thanks for info :)
[19:35] <mhall119> zbenjamin: I get the following errors when trying to run the latest Scope templtea from QtC on my phone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8509611/
[19:36] <mhall119> zbenjamin: I updated my chroot but that didn't solve it
[19:36] <mihir> renatu, ping
[19:37] <nik90> mhall119: bug 1377094
[19:37] <mhall119> thanks nik90
[19:37] <renatu> mihir, hey
[19:37] <mhall119> nik90: so it affects both apps and scopes?
[19:37] <mihir> renatu, i tested it but when i create event from APP it creates on previou day
[19:37] <nik90> mhall119: yes, if click-review-tools shows errors, then qtc doesn't deploy to device. (apps and scopes)
[19:38] <mihir> renatu, to be specific , i created an event for 12:30 to 1:00 AM (Tonight) when it got sync on google calendar, it synced on previous day (7:00 to 7:300 PM)
[19:39] <renatu> mihir, are your device with the same timezone as you google calendar?
[19:39] <nik90> ahayzen: RPi does work..I used it for about 6-8 months as my irc server..but it needs to be maintained and I am lazy :P..also my internet is flaky as well
[19:39] <mihir> renatu, yes
[19:39] <mihir> renatu, when i create an event from GC and it get synced back on correct time
[19:40] <ahayzen> nik90, hah yeah i'm lazy too ... i guess just leaving my laptop on all day is adequate then :)
[19:40] <renatu> mihir, let me try
[19:40] <renatu> I was trying to edit it
[19:40] <nik90> ahayzen: lol
[19:41] <mhall119> nik90: my recurring alarms are recurring now!
[19:41] <mhall119> \o/
[19:42] <nik90> mhall119: thnk renatu ^^
[19:42] <nik90> mhall119: you and him had the same issue apparently
[19:42] <mhall119> now to fix the icons in indicator-datetime, both calendar events and alarms use the clock icon
[19:42] <nik90> mhall119: I believe that is being worked on...unfortunately it isn't a simple fix and requires patches to sdk, indicator-datetime ...
[19:43] <nik90> mhall119: but it will come
[19:43] <mhall119> also, calendar events, when clicked, open the clock
[19:43] <mhall119> is that part of the same fix?
[19:44] <nik90> mhall119: yes
[19:44] <renatu> mihir, yes I can confirm, dates for new events is not getting correct translate
[19:45] <renatu> mihir, do you know how to create dates with timezone information on js?
[19:45] <mhall119> nik90: renatu: out of curiousity, what ended up being the cause of recurring alarms not recurring?
[19:45] <renatu> mhall119, they are not getting saved correct :D
[19:46] <mhall119> only for you and I?
[19:46] <mihir> renatu, you would prefer to send UTC date ?
[19:46] <nik90> mhall119: well they were saved in the wrong format....tbh I am not sure till today why it affected only both of you..
[19:46] <renatu> mhall119, I am not sure if they are working for anybody
[19:46] <nik90> mhall119: although my guess is that I or popey didnt reproduce it since we flash out phone quite frequently
[19:46] <renatu> mihir, no would be nice if we can create dates with tz
[19:47] <nik90> mhall119: so it could be that the taks.ics file was being erased frequently thereby not hitting that bug
[19:48] <mihir> renatu, we can use QT locale i guess
[19:48]  * mihir checks calendar app
[19:50] <renatu> mihir I need to leave. I will be back in 20 min
[19:51] <nik90> elopio: thnx for the qml review..I feel you will have the exact same comment for https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/12-alarm-list-design-spec/+merge/237177 as well :) .. I will fix that as well
[19:52] <mihir> renatu, we are getting dates from device locale from QT
[19:52] <mihir> and then showing it to the new event page.
[19:53] <rpadovani> ahayzen, a bit late but yes, I know people using RPi as IRC bouncer
[19:53] <elopio> nik90: yes, from a quick glance, it would be nice to have smaller and more focused tests.
[19:53] <renatu> mihir, I mean, when you create a event how do you set the dates? is using js dates objects? (new Date()) ??
[19:54] <renatu> I was looking for date objects and I did not find a way to set the timezone for it
[19:54] <mihir> renatu, yes
[19:54] <renatu> mihir, I will need to check how qt convert js date objects into QDateTime
[19:54] <mihir> renatu, i guess we can create http://stackoverflow.com/questions/439630/how-do-you-create-a-javascript-date-object-with-a-set-timezone-without-using-a-s
[19:54] <mihir> renatu, i meant in JS
[19:55] <elopio> nik90: have you tried writing the tests before the code?
[19:56] <mivoligo> mzanetti: hi :)
[19:58] <nik90> elopio: no, tbh only recently I realised they were missing tests, hence I am trying to fill in the gaps and improve test coverage
[19:58] <mihir> renatu, okay
[20:02] <gcollura> Can I set a hex color as X-Ubuntu-Splash-Color in .desktop?
[20:02] <mihir> gcollura, yes you can
[20:03] <gcollura> thanks mihir
[20:03] <nik90> gcollura: as mzanetti said before, you can use anythign supported by http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qcolor.html#setNamedColor
[20:03] <mihir> gcollura, wc :)
[20:30] <mzanetti> mivoligo: hi
[20:31] <mivoligo> mzanetti: did you see my message about the settings icon?
[20:32] <mzanetti> mivoligo: nope... but yeah, I had troubles with coloring the icons in code
[20:32] <mzanetti> I can do that, but its not easy to match the others
[20:32] <mzanetti> so I think it would be best to only use custom icons
[20:32] <mivoligo> mzanetti: ok
[20:33] <mivoligo> mzanetti: what I said was: I think, for the final version, we can put there only sound settings and replace settings icon with sound icon. The other settings would be available only for levelpacks creators. Maybe with some enabling option in your script. What you think?
[20:34] <mzanetti> mivoligo: so we would have only Icon and Info, and when that developer mode is enabled, a third icon (settings) would appear?
[20:34] <mivoligo> mzanetti: yes
[20:34] <mzanetti> works for me
[20:35] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I played today a little with my kids and we had few crashes
[20:36] <mzanetti> mivoligo: yeah... there are some... if possible, try to reproduce
[20:37] <mivoligo> mzanetti: it was just sudden, this is what QtCreator says: http://paste2.org/EUcFNO3N
[20:39] <mzanetti> hmm... not so useful unfortunately
[20:42] <mivoligo> if I find how to reproduce that, I'll file a bug
[20:42] <mivoligo> mzanetti: it happen first time today anyway
[20:43] <mzanetti> ok, cool
[20:48] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I'll be off next week but I'll try to make 5 level background before that. Not sure about the icon yet though.
[20:52] <mzanetti> mivoligo: no problem. 5 new levels sounds great
[21:02] <ahayzen> rpadovani, hehe thanks :)
[21:03] <mivoligo> mzanetti: if you have time you can take a look at the bug with level numbers but I guess you're busy with Ubuntu stuff :)
[21:14] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to use my icon in my application and i am having problem with it says "nameoficon" is defined
[21:18] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, o/ how are you loading it?
[21:18] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, is this the actual application icon or just an icon *in* the app?
[21:18] <ahoneybun> real icon
[21:18] <ahoneybun> I'm looking at DanChapman's code now
[21:18] <ahayzen> cool
[21:21] <ahoneybun> I'm getting complains
[21:21] <ahoneybun> ok got it but I want to center it
[21:23] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, what does your code look like at the moment? mind pastebin'ing it?
[21:24] <ahoneybun> got it
[21:24] <ahoneybun> I needed a item
[21:24] <ahoneybun> sure give me a sex
[21:24] <ahoneybun> sec
[21:24] <ahoneybun> crap
[21:25] <ahoneybun> ahayzen, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8510247/
[21:26] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, is that working with the item?
[21:26] <ahoneybun> yea
[21:26] <ahayzen> \o/
[21:26] <ahoneybun> yep lol
[21:26] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, remember the ctrl+a  ctrl+i
[21:27] <ahoneybun> yea I just did that lol
[21:27] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/Zzb2UAT
[21:27] <ahoneybun> ahayzen, http://imgur.com/Zzb2UAT
[21:28] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, sweet it is looking good :) have you talked to any of the community team about it, they may be interested by the app
[21:29] <ahoneybun> can't say I have
[21:29] <ahoneybun> I posted about putting the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter in #ubuntu-news
[21:29] <nik90> bug 1367244
[21:29] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, you could try talking to popey mhall119 or dpm when they are about
[21:30] <ahoneybun> I have not heard from mhall119 for about a week or two it seems like
[21:30]  * ahoneybun needs to upload changes to lp
[21:30] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, he is in US timezone
[21:30] <ahoneybun> yea he is in Orlando
[21:33] <ahoneybun> I have meet mhall119 :)
[21:35] <ahoneybun> darn
[21:35] <ahoneybun> popey, mhall119 lets talk community
[21:36] <popey> wassup?
[21:36] <balloons> ahoneybun, yea mhall119 has been away, for some well deserved r and r
[21:36] <ahoneybun> popey, I am working on a app called Ubuntu Beginner
[21:36] <ahoneybun> and I would like some input
[21:36] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/a/brLcG popey
[21:39] <mhall119> ahoneybun: I'm back now though
[21:39]  * mhall119 was in N. Carolina & Tennessee for a week
[21:39] <ahoneybun> mhall119, oh cool
[21:40] <ahoneybun> mhall119, I have my first real app on the store btw
[21:40] <mhall119> man, Launchpad is acting up
[21:40] <mhall119> ahoneybun: \o/
[21:40] <ahoneybun> yep now working in another
[21:40] <ahoneybun> *on
[21:40] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu Beginner
[21:41] <ahoneybun> mhall119, http://imgur.com/a/brLcG
[21:41] <mhall119> ahoneybun: nice!
[21:41] <ahoneybun> thanks
[21:42] <ahoneybun> just looking for community input like ahayzen suggested
[21:45] <renatu> mihir, I pushed a new fix
[21:47]  * ahoneybun counts there are 24 Ubuntu Pioneer spots left
[21:49] <ahoneybun> any input mhall119 popey ?
[22:07] <mhall119> ahoneybun: design input?
[22:51] <elopio> nik90: the end result could be the same. But when you get used to write the tests first, some nice things start to happen.
[22:51] <elopio> like the test suites evolve to give you just the right feedback you need in case of a regression.
[22:55]  * ahoneybun floats in