[05:40] <pitti> Good morning
[07:01] <Mirv> re: pitivi I wonder what should be done if there's a fix for a 14.04 LTS crasher but 14.10 crashes before it gets there, ie uploading that fix to 14.10 would keep pitivi in 14.10 still crashing?
[07:02] <Mirv> I understand the optimal solution is to fix the 14.10 crasher too, but it seems it's not entirely trivial. It also feels bad to do an upload to 14.10 just to keep it in sync with 14.04, knowing it still doesn't work in 14.10.
[07:40] <willcooke> greets
[07:40] <willcooke> going to be a quiet day today I think (& hope)
[07:41] <larsu> morning willcooke!
[07:41] <willcooke> hey larsu
[07:41] <willcooke> no seb today
[07:41] <larsu> ya :/
[07:41] <willcooke> he's got a day off
[07:41] <larsu> slacker!
[07:41] <willcooke> :D
[07:41] <larsu> I mean ... well deserved, of course
[08:02] <dandre> Hello,
[08:04] <dandre> Is there any update for fglrx ati drive for 14.04? the version for utopic is 14.201 and for trusty only 13.350. even fglrx-updates is at 13.350?
[08:05] <Laney> morning
[08:05] <larsu> hi Laney!
[08:06] <larsu> (brb)
[08:07] <Laney> hey larsu, good weekend?
[08:28] <Laney> dandre: tseliot looks after those I think
[08:29] <dandre> I am trying to build my own package from amd site
[08:40] <larsu> Laney: yep, Baltic sea was nice (and really good weather)
[08:40] <larsu> Laney: you?
[08:43] <Laney> oh yes I forgot you were away, nice
[08:44] <Laney> Wasn't very eventful here, just climbing and went out for dinner last night
[08:44] <Laney> autumn's arrived at last
[10:06] <Laney> darkxst: so, ... what happens if we revert the use of the mutter api?
[10:07] <Laney> I'm guessing nobody is going to implement that in unity this cycle
[10:08] <darkxst> Laney, it will blow up on GNOME for sure
[10:09] <Laney> how come?
[10:09] <Laney> same api, no?
[10:10] <darkxst> Laney, gnome-shell uses mutter api directly
[10:12] <darkxst> Laney, I am busy tonight, but will have a look over it tomorrow, and get back to you
[10:12] <Laney> k
[10:16] <darkxst> it may not be that hard to add the dbus api to unity-settings-daemon
[10:17] <Laney> maybe, like that displayconfig thing
[10:18] <darkxst> Laney, hey this problem never would have happened with my daemon ;)
[10:18] <Laney> shame it didn't work :p
[10:20] <darkxst> apparently not on your exotic minimalist DE
[10:20] <Laney> that was my desktop
[10:20] <Laney> I don't test this crack stuff on my laptop
[10:21] <Laney> at least not until it works on a vanilla environment
[10:21]  * darkxst has VM's for crack
[10:22] <darkxst> and besides it did work under unity (though I can't really test multi-monitor configs under VM's)
[10:22] <Laney> yes that was exactly what broke, VM wouldn't have helped there
[10:22] <Laney> so i'm glad i used my real system for that
[10:23] <Laney> anyways
[10:23] <Laney> let me know when there's something to review
[10:24] <darkxst> we have actually had the odd report of similar, so could be a random bug in mutter code
[10:24] <darkxst> Laney, sure, will do
[15:36] <GunnarHj> Somebody who can help with a gtk+3.0 translation issue?
[15:36] <GunnarHj> The new translatable strings due to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.12.2-0ubuntu10 seem not to have made it to the translation template. Shouldn't it be updated automatically at upload, or do you need to take some additional step?
[15:39] <GunnarHj> larsu: ^
[15:46] <larsu> GunnarHj: seb128 told me it'll be updated automatically. I'm afraid I don't know more about it than that...
[15:46] <larsu> Laney maybe?
[15:47] <Laney> erm
[15:47] <Laney> I don't know much about that stuff
[15:47] <larsu> do you know who might?
[15:47] <larsu> seb128 is out for the day
[15:48] <Laney> dunno, pitti maybe, but I'm sure it can wait
[15:48] <larsu> right
[15:48] <GunnarHj> Will seb128 be back tomorrow?
[15:48] <Laney> should be
[15:48] <GunnarHj> Ok.
[15:48] <Laney> as long as he stays away from the canals ...
[15:49] <GunnarHj> Which canals? :)
[15:49] <Laney> All of them
[15:49] <Laney> Dangerous places to be
[15:54] <GunnarHj> Laney: Thanks for fixing Pitivi, btw. Seems like my noise served some purpose after all. ;)
[15:54] <Laney> sure
[15:54] <Laney> Don't know how you decided it was dead though
[15:55] <GunnarHj> Laney: I simply misinterpreted a comment in the upstream bug.
[15:55] <Laney> I see
[16:14] <Mirv> Laney: GunnarHj: great to hear about progress on the utopic side of pitivi! I'm happy to prepare SRU if there's a combination of patches that also fix the timeline drawing and the popping up new window.
[16:14] <Laney> Mirv: get the package from utopic/unapproved and see what happens
[16:21] <Mirv> Laney: thanks, I'll do that
[18:34]  * willcooke -> EOD. g'night