[14:13]  * thafreak has a self imposed ban after the last two shopping trips to microcenter
[14:14] <thafreak> Last trip was buying parts for a project though, so the expense was legit
[14:14] <thafreak> still spent way more than I thought
[14:14] <thafreak> the time before that though...whoa...drove up and just decided to build a new server
[14:14] <thafreak> spent probably $750
[14:15] <thafreak> and I didn't even buy a stack of hard drives...that's usually the biggest expense when i build something
[14:15] <thafreak> 4 hard drives for raid adds up
[14:16] <thafreak> this server though, no raid...so it was just an extra expensive box...I'm hoping to make the money back in electricity savings though
[16:10] <andygraybeal> are there linux/unix certification centers in columbus or ohio?
[16:10] <andygraybeal> anyone have certs?
[16:14] <yano> andygraybeal: someone in the osuosc channel might know
[16:15] <andygraybeal> thank yan
[16:15] <andygraybeal> i need a job yano
[16:16] <andygraybeal> something that pays around 40-50k
[16:17] <andygraybeal> i'm seeing this on googs: http://www.cedsolutions.com/computer-training-course/columbus-OH
[16:17] <jenni> [ Columbus, OH - Computer IT Training and Certification Classes ] - https://j.mp/1rdohMZ
[16:17] <yano> ah
[16:17] <yano> i usually look on linkedin for jobs
[16:18] <andygraybeal> yea
[16:18] <andygraybeal> cool, i'll do that / keep doing that :)
[16:19] <yano> i've heard of people having luck on craigslist
[16:19] <yano> i've never tried that
[16:20] <andygraybeal> yea, i look at cl also
[17:55] <thafreak> Cheapest cert is probably LPIC
[17:55] <thafreak> costs like $300 maybe per level
[17:55] <thafreak> Unless you take the exams at Ohio Linux Fest, then you can get a decent discount
[17:56] <thafreak> They're not as well known as like the redhat certs, but those are ridiculously expensive to take
[17:57] <thafreak> Talk to itsafork, he used to be the columbus ubuntu lead
[17:57] <thafreak> he's down there and I think just changed jobs and he also not that long ago finished his leve 3 cert
[18:00] <dzho> thafreak: level 3 LPIC?
[18:33] <thafreak> yeah
[18:34] <thafreak> LPIC-3...I've only done LPIC-2
[18:34] <thafreak> I probably need to take an exam soon though...I think I only get 5 years before they expire
[18:35] <thafreak> and I'm probably coming up on year 4 now
[18:35] <dzho> that's what gets me about the cert process
[18:35] <dzho> like, I'm already dubious, and to have it turn into a treadmill thing just doesn't appeal.
[18:47] <thafreak> yeah
[18:48] <thafreak> I'm not looking  forward to LPIC-3
[18:48] <thafreak> last I looked, it was geared towards samba/windows integration
[18:48] <thafreak> not my bag
[18:48] <thafreak> I'm hoping it changes before I have to take it...
[18:52] <andygraybeal> thafreak, cool.  i'm looking at the LPIC
[18:53] <andygraybeal> thafreak, and dzho, thanks for helping
[18:55] <andygraybeal> hmm there are study guides on tpb too
[19:06] <andygraybeal> anyone remeber #trainingwarez on efnet in the late 90s?
[19:06] <andygraybeal> seems like forever ago
[19:23] <andygraybeal> so there two series of linux certs:  LPIC (linux professional) and LFCS (linux foundation)
[19:23] <andygraybeal> you guys mentioned LPIC, so i assume that that one is more popular than the Linux Foundation series?
[19:25] <thafreak> Linux foundation one is pretty new. It was just mentioned a few months ago actually I think
[19:27] <andygraybeal> yea, thafreak ... reading the outlines of the LPICs... and your right... LPIC3 = ldap and active directory integration .. .it's a bummer they want you to learn AD stuff.
[19:27] <andygraybeal> is there any AD prerequisites before you can pass an LPIC3?
[19:28] <andygraybeal> i mean i assume so...
[19:28] <andygraybeal> i have had the luck of admining 80 people LDAP and integrating auth across few apps with it... but no AD :)
[19:29] <andygraybeal> i don't want to touch the windows stuff..
[19:30] <thafreak> I'm hoping it changes and they get rid of the samba/windows stuff and let you chose your own path
[19:31] <thafreak> they have been adding extra topics like virtualization and security
[19:32] <thafreak> so I'm hoping they let you pic something other than samba eventually
[19:32] <andygraybeal> *cross-fingers*
[19:36] <andygraybeal> how much are the LPIC exams?  ...
[19:37] <thafreak> I think normally like $150/exam and there are 2 per level
[19:38] <andygraybeal> k
[19:39] <andygraybeal> i'm getting government assistance due to my disability
[19:39] <andygraybeal> i've never had government assistance yet
[19:39] <andygraybeal> they are going to help me pay for the exams.
[19:41] <andygraybeal> i just filed for disability even though i've been disabled for a long time
[19:43] <andygraybeal> i'm pretty stoked
[19:44] <andygraybeal> do i have to have the 'linux essentials' before i can take the lpic1 ?
[19:49] <andygraybeal> okay cool.  well i'm happy you said something
[21:25] <thafreak> sorry, was away
[21:25] <thafreak> I don't think you have to take essentials
[21:25] <thafreak> I think that's like a basic all by it self exam
[21:25] <thafreak> you can if you want before lpic1 but I don't think it's required
[21:25] <thafreak> It's relatively new
[21:26] <thafreak> I think it's geared towards like high school students to get their feet wet
[21:26] <thafreak> hope that helps...
[21:27]  * thafreak has to drive home now
[21:30] <andygraybeal> thafreak, i read some of the material for the essentials..... it's an outline of what a computer is and an operating system...hahah it's kind of funny
[21:30] <andygraybeal> your right it's for highshoolers.. or younger i imagine even.
[21:43] <andygraybeal> it's been 17 years since i've studied to get a techy certificate.
[21:43] <andygraybeal> it's way dramatic... but feels like a new chapter in my life...
[22:30] <andygraybeal> just reading through the first lpic1 books i don't know a ton of it
[22:30] <andygraybeal> stuff i just look up on google and never think about or remember
[22:30] <andygraybeal> or really care to remember honestly
[22:31] <andygraybeal> i mean without having to take an exam
[22:56] <PCLine_> What exam are you taking?
[23:03] <andygraybeal> i'm gonna hopefully take the lpic-1 and lpic-2 :)
[23:06] <andygraybeal> i need to get a job and i'm hoping having some certs will help.  i have no college and my experience even though lengthy is not very strong i would say.
[23:09] <andygraybeal> and other than 6 years working at a university... my linux admin experience was at a very small place :(
[23:09] <PCLine_> Never seen Linux Certification Exams before.  I learned something new again today.
[23:10] <andygraybeal> http://training.linuxfoundation.org/certification & https://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications
[23:10] <jenni> [ Linux Certification and Certification Courses - Linux Foundation Training ] - https://j.mp/1Emk43E
[23:10] <jenni> [ Linux Certifications Overview | Linux Professional Institute (LPI) ] - https://j.mp/1Emk2c6
[23:10] <andygraybeal> like thafreak said LF exames aren't very popular.. they are new
[23:11] <andygraybeal> but LPI exam have plenty of resources
[23:11] <andygraybeal> easily found on websites that our sorely mentioned in some channels on irc.
[23:11] <andygraybeal> so i downloaded a the reference books and cbts
[23:14] <andygraybeal> PCLine_, yes, i have the chance at government assistance to help me pay for the exams.... so i'm going to jump at it.  i just applied for disability and got it.
[23:17] <PCLine_> I need some Certification like .... A+ or Network+
[23:23] <andygraybeal> yea, i should probably get those too
[23:23] <andygraybeal> i studied for A+ about 20 years ago :)
[23:24] <andygraybeal> it seems so silly now.. but i should probably get it anyway
[23:25] <andygraybeal> some security certifications would be good too
[23:25] <andygraybeal> i knew a guy that got his cissp
[23:28] <andygraybeal> not 20 years.. more like 18 years
[23:38] <PCLine_> 20 or 18 thats about the same right?
[23:43] <andygraybeal> yea
[23:43] <andygraybeal> at this point it is
[23:43] <andygraybeal> i'm getting too old
[23:43] <andygraybeal> and i'm not even old
[23:57] <andygraybeal> i've never heard of the 'tac' command.. omg
[23:58] <andygraybeal> opposite of cat..... sounds like a bad joke or somethin