[01:27] <pjotter> Hi everybody. I just upgraded to 14.04 and was wondering if I can change the right-side scrollbars? In maximized apps, the scrollbar is just a few pixels from the right side of the screen to the left. So I have to be very precise when I want to scroll.
[01:50] <xubuntu18w> searching multimedia plugins for 13.06machine like mpeg mp4 and so on (actually not willing to upgrade to a newer version - missing RAM 1gb)
[01:51] <cfhowlett> xubuntu18w, xubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:53] <xubuntu18w> cheers cu
[02:31] <xubuntu18w> downloaded xubuntu-restricted-extras 57 tried to install received message cant satisfy xubuntu restricted addons
[02:32] <cfhowlett> xubuntu18w, no longer supported = end of life
[02:40] <xubuntu18w> give it a great smile for your help - bytheway once i downloaded somehow plugins from an webpage an` worked before the breakdown of 1gb ram
[02:43] <xubuntu18w> so long folks `ave to leave and thanks
[03:07] <BuntuTech> does xubuntu have  5yr supposrt?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> BuntuTech, 14.04 3 years because xfce 3 years
[06:41] <knosys> is there a magic command to restore /etc/enviroment file, after accidetally deleted, before my next PC session logout? so i dont loose the PATH items i used to have?
[06:41] <knosys> im trying to find one but without luck
[06:47] <elfy> from the backup you carefully make when you edit system files perhaps
[07:19] <knosys> hola
[07:19] <knosys> alguien me echaría una mano a restarurar mi sesión? estoy en modo recuperación con funciones de red
[07:19] <knosys> oops :S
[07:20] <knosys> im really sorry
[07:20] <knosys> forgot about talking in english
[07:20] <knosys> Please could someone help me ? I am in recovery mode, i cannot login in my user session.
[07:25] <cfhowlett> !password | knosys
[07:30] <Unit193> knosys: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"  is something along the lines of default for that file.
[07:49] <Guido1> hoi, where can i post bugs or can one of you do that for me?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !bugs | Guido1
[07:54] <Guido1> ubuntu-bug <xubuntu> switch of FN and CTRL in the Bios of Lenovo E540 results in trouble by using the CTRL key in Xubuntu. some shortcuts do not work after the switch any more like CTRL + B whereas others work.
[07:58] <Guido1> cfhowlett: i think i did something wrong
[07:58] <cfhowlett> Guido1, ???
[07:58] <cfhowlett> Guido1, preface your earlier output with the /           to invoke the commandd
[07:59] <cfhowlett> Guido1, actually ... false.  it's a command line option
[08:00] <Guido1> cfhowlett: i do not compleatly understand what you mean. do you mean i have to enter it in the terminal and add a "/" before what i wrote?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> Guido1, from the command line: ubuntu-bug packagename will invoke the script
[08:02] <Guido1> cfhowlett: can you maybe report the bug?
[08:02] <knosys> Hello . Guys could you help me out? I cant login through lightdmm, only terminal session
[08:02] <deshipu> knosys: what did you do just before it stopped working?
[08:03] <knosys> 2 things. First accidentally overrided /etc/enviroment file
[08:03] <knosys> then i created .profile on home directory of my user
[08:04] <cfhowlett> Guido1, it'll send my systemt info ... not yours.  try again:  ubuntu-bug
[08:04] <knosys> before my last reboot, i also added wxWidgets and few libraries more
[08:04] <knosys> gtk+2 also
[08:06] <knosys> also, i have restored /etc/enviroment to what it should be. And removed .profile
[08:06] <knosys> so those both changes should be reverted
[08:09] <Guido1> cfhowlett: okee, how do i have to enter
[08:09] <Guido1> ubuntu-bug <xubuntu> switch of FN and CTRL in the Bios of Lenovo E540 results in trouble by using the CTRL key in Xubuntu. some shortcuts do not work after the switch any more like CTRL + B whereas others work.
[08:09] <Guido1> in the coment line? what is the pakage name etc.
[09:05] <Guido1> ?
[09:32] <pjotter> hello everybody
[09:33] <pjotter> I just upgraded to 14.04
[09:35] <pjotter> At first glance: looks great. But I ran into a little problem.
[09:40] <pjotter> It's a problem with the layout of the vertical scrollbars.
[09:42] <pjotter> In maximised applications, the right vertical scroll-bar is a few pixels off to the left. So, I almost always mis-click it when I try to adjust the scrollbar. Is there any sollution for this? I tried different layouts. But all standard layouts in Xubuntu seem to have this.
[09:52] <knosys> pjotter: what resolution do you use? im with fullhd and i can do it pretty good
[10:09] <pjotter> Hi knysos,  res is 1920x1200. But that really doesn't matter. The proble is that the right-side scrollbars of many maximised applications are just a few pixels off to the left. So, when you seep the mouse to the right to quickly adjust the vertical scrollbar, you wind up clicking on the few pixels to the right of the scrollbar instead of the scrollbar itself.
[10:10] <pjotter> sepp=sweep
[10:10] <knome> pjotter, that's because how the themes are built, they have a slight padding in the window
[10:10] <pjotter> I seem to have problems with the keyboard aswell :)
[10:10] <knome> pjotter, iirc, there are themes that are borderless and have the scrollbar at the absolute right
[10:10] <pjotter> knome: I come from 12.04 and don't remember it was in there?
[10:11] <knome> themes evolve
[10:11] <pjotter> knome: Do you know any such that might resemble the standard Greybird default?
[10:12] <knome> i don't know the other themes well enough to judge that, but i'd imagine not
[10:12] <pjotter> knome: I know, but this doesn't feel like an improvement to me. Any ideas why they changed this?
[10:12] <knome> the themes that are borderless are usually trying to save space or look very distinct otherwise
[10:13] <knome> pjotter, we had problems with too thin borders (they produced some rendering errors for some), but that wouldn't completely explain it... but it could be anything
[10:14] <knome> ochosi would know, or have better insight to it anyway, he built the theme
[10:14] <pjotter> Greybird?
[10:14] <knome> yes
[10:15] <pjotter> Ah, great! Maybe I'll try asking him when he's here.
[10:15] <knome> sure
[10:15] <ochosi> the rounded scrollbars with a little padding were mostly an aesthetic choice
[10:15] <pjotter> I also tried altering the theme. But for some reason that causes other problems in the scrollbars.
[10:15] <ochosi> and many use scrollwheels or two-finger-scrolling anyway
[10:15] <knosys> Hey guys, an hour ago or so, i restarted after few packages installations, and a big accident (I removed /etc/enviroment and created a new ~/.profile ), after all that i reboot and i couldnt login through lightdm. But i could access recovery mode , and in channel #ubuntu a guy was helping me. I restored /etc/enviroment to what it should look like, and also i had to reinstall lighdm. After all that, it worked
[10:15] <knosys> and now im on X again. The main problem is that lightdm cant find some library resources, and we fixed it making a link in /usr/bin targetting to /usr/sbin. That fixed everything.
[10:16] <ochosi> yeah, you can't really have rounded scrollbars and no padding, afaik
[10:16] <pjotter> I don't. I use a wacom pen-tablet.
[10:16] <pjotter> Hey ochosi!
[10:16] <knosys> so i wonder how could i fix that "cleaner" i mean.. how can i remove that link and even then lightdm can find the appropiate resources to start
[10:17] <ochosi> pjotter: you can use a theme like numix, that has the type of scrollbars you want. you can also copy the scrollbar sections in both gtk-2.0 and -3.0 to greybird and try to work your way from there
[10:19] <knome> knosys, "if it isn't broken, don't fix it"
[10:19] <knosys> but its ugly
[10:19] <pjotter> ochosi: Alright. I already tried setting the trough-border option to 0. It kind of works, but the scroll-button then becomes square.
[10:19] <knosys> im having path variables thanks to a link
[10:20] <ochosi> pjotter: yeah, as i said, iirc you can't have rounded scrollbars and 0 padding
[10:20] <knosys> also, i have /etc/enviroment that its completely being ignored
[10:20] <knosys> dont know why, it wont read that file
[10:20] <knome> maybe the file permissions are wrong...
[10:20] <pjotter> ochosi: Ok, so that's a technical limitation as-well?  Not just ecstatic
[10:20] <knosys> oh that sounds possible
[10:21] <knosys> i will check for that
[10:21] <ochosi> pjotter: well, rounded scrollbars are aesthetic ;)
[10:21] <knosys> how show them be to allow read for lightdm?
[10:21] <knosys> should*
[10:21] <pjotter> :D I was looking for the correct word, but the auto spelling didn't have it! :D
[10:21] <knome> knosys, i've no idea.
[10:21] <knosys> could u check for a second with chmod?
[10:22] <knosys> sorry, with ls
[10:22] <knosys> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[10:22] <pjotter> Alright. I'll try fiddling with the numix theme. Thanks for the advice!
[10:22] <knosys> theese are mine
[10:22] <knome> knosys, that looks right.
[10:22] <knosys> and the content
[10:23] <knome> knosys, i'd either keep what you have, or do a clean install
[10:23] <knome> (if you insist on having a "clean" system)
[10:23] <knosys> no
[10:23] <knosys> is not only that
[10:23] <knosys> its to understand the system of path
[10:23] <knosys> and what is happened
[10:23] <knosys> happening*
[10:24] <knosys> but its ok really
[10:24] <knosys> not a rush at all
[10:25] <knosys> i think reinstalling is not necesary if im able to put everything in order again
[10:32] <ochosi> pjotter: no problem, and good luck
[10:56] <Guido1> is this http://superuser.com/questions/814975/lenovo-laptop-fn-ctrl-swap bug reported anywhere or a workaround known? I have the same issue.
[11:41] <xubuntu04w> does anyone know the display manager for 13.10? the one packaged in 14.04 is getting on my nerves
[17:31] <flindermouse> Hi, I am having a problem with a xubuntu-based webserver, apache2 is started but not loading webpages. I don't know where to look. Can anybody help?
[17:33] <holstein> flindermouse: should be the same apache as anywhere.. the xubuntu part really shouldnt matter. can you vist the page at localhost?
[17:33] <holstein> flindermouse: try localhost on the machine.. try the machines' ip from the machine.. try pinging the machines from another box..  then, try accessing that machine via IP on the same network
[17:35] <flindermouse> I get 500 internal error when I browse to its IP. There are multiple websites hosted on this box, so it may not respond on that
[17:35] <flindermouse> this server got taken offline due to power outage. Its virtual, but it was unable to mount some directories in /var/www
[17:35] <holstein> flindermouse: sounds like a mess. i would start with the basics.. see what is working and what is not..
[17:35] <flindermouse> holstein: sorry, it has been a while since I've used IRC
[17:39] <flindermouse> holstein: Apache2 as a service is not showing problems. a recent line in my error.log is "[core:alert] [pid 2114] client (some Ip) /var/www/(somewebsite)/.htaccess <IFmodule not allowed here
[17:39] <holstein> flindermouse: sure.. i would just remove *all* of that content, and test basic apache loading locally
[17:39] <holstein> this would remove many variables from the equation
[17:40] <holstein> i dont think you have an issue with apache either.. but, i would test and see
[17:40] <flindermouse> so, browse to http://serverIP?
[17:40] <flindermouse> holstein: so, browse to http://serverIP?
[17:40] <holstein> flindermouse: i would literally get locally on the actual device, and go to local host.. this removes the networking connections and firewalls from the equation
[17:41] <holstein> i am assuming a box on your local network, however.. since you are running xubuntu on it
[17:42] <flindermouse> holstein: yes, it is. I neither set it up not maintained it, and its been a while since I worked with this, so troubleshooting is difficult
[17:43] <holstein> i would try simply pinging.. then, look at or pull down my firewalls, as long as its all behind my router, or on a router not connected to the internet
[17:43] <holstein> then, would remove/backup the current content.. and see that apache is working
[17:44] <m3n3chm0> dear all guys, any way to automatic loggin into Teamviewer ?? the checkbox is already enabled but I have to input my username&password always at startup
[17:45] <holstein> m3n3chm0: you would need to ask teamviewer.. its not an ubuntu package we can support.. i seem to remember an unattended server mode with teamviewer
[17:45] <m3n3chm0> ok
[17:46] <holstein> i thought it was something to be decided at install in windows.. but, thats the only way i have ever set up the server mode.. in windows
[18:41] <tireli> hello
[18:46] <tireli> I just installed Xubuntu 14.10 beta 2 and I found a strange problem. I can't change the default application for plain text files. The default application is Abiword and I can't find to change it
[18:47] <tireli> I quickly searched on the bug tracker for this bug but didn't found it (yet)
[18:49] <drc> tireli:  You can't right click on the text file icon>general> and change Open with: and change it?
[18:50] <tireli> I tried right click > "Open with another app" > [I select mousepad and check "use this action by default for this type of file"]
[18:50] <tireli> And also right click > Properties > Open with [Mousepad]
[18:51] <drc> That should work also, but try it my way, just to see what happens.
[18:51] <tireli> But Abiword is still the default app
[18:51] <drc> on, nevermind :)
[18:51] <tireli> I tried again but nothing changed
[18:52] <drc> Just to eliminate one possible cause, can you try either way with another text file?
[18:52] <tireli> I also looked in the mime type manager in preferences and mousepad is the default app for plain text file
[18:53] <drc> and you are sure that it's a Plain Text File? (Look in Properties>Kind on the file in question).
[18:54] <tireli> file -i Nouveau\ fichier\ vide.txt
[18:54] <tireli> Nouveau fichier vide.txt: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
[18:55] <tireli> Since I just installed Xubuntu Unicorn 14.10 beta, there is no other text editor so I just installe leafpad and did Properties > Open With [Leafpad] but Abiword is still opening when double clicking
[18:56] <holstein> !bug
[18:56] <holstein> !14.10
[18:56] <holstein> i would try as another user.. or the guest user..
[18:57] <tireli> Ok, I am going to try with another user, be right back
[19:01] <tireli> So
[19:02] <tireli> With the guest session, I created a empty file, opened it and Abiword started. Then i did Properties > Open With [leafpad] and double click : leafpad started, then I did again Properties > Open With and changed to Mousepad but it's still leafpad which start
[19:04] <tireli> In other words, I am not capable of reproducing the exact same bug
[19:04] <holstein> tireli: and, i wouldnt assume the term "bug" just yet..
[19:05] <tireli> Gonna check if the bug is in "Known bug" of the news on xubuntu.org
[19:05] <elfy> it's not for sure
[19:06] <elfy> not even sure what to tell you to report it against either tbh
[19:06] <tireli> holstein: let's call it a problem on my computer
[19:07] <tireli> is there other way to check mime type / file association or is thunar relying on other thing to launch default application ?
[19:07] <elfy> tireli: there's a mimetype editor in settings
[19:14] <tireli> I tried adding association in .local/share/applications/mimeapp.list but nothing
[19:15] <holstein> tireli: i say, if you think you have a bug, look for a bug about it. it would be great to fix it before release.. if you find one, join it.. if you dont, you can make one and try and get it confirmed
[19:22] <tireli> !bug
[19:26] <tireli> thank you for you help, I'm gonna check the bug tracker
[19:27] <tireli> tchao
[19:35] <tireli> Hi, it's me again
[19:36] <tireli> I solved the problem by removing some lines in the .config/mimeapps.list file (different from the .local/share/application/mimeapps.list)
[19:38] <xubuntu92w> hello. I just installed 14.0 and I need help please
[20:49] <keir> I'm using Xubuntu for my home media server and want to keep the screen on at all times, however after a day or so the screen gets switched off.  I have disabled all screen savers etc that I could find settings for but it's still happening, I'm struggling to work out what is causing it, any suggestions?
[21:12] <xubuntu63w> what was the display manager for ubuntu 13.10?
[21:13] <xubuntu63w> *xubuntu
[21:13] <knome> xubuntu63w, what is your problem?
[21:15] <xubuntu63w> i'm trying to keep my moniter from turning off but have the screen go blank
[21:19] <xubuntu63w> knome,i'm trying to keep my moniter from turning off but have the screen go blank
[21:32] <cubed_root> can i assume .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/ should only fire when xubuntu desktop manager is running? (i have xubuntu running with cinnamon desktop environment)
[21:42] <xubuntu63w> i'm trying to keep my moniter from turning off but have the screen go blank
[21:47] <knome> cubed_root, i don't believe so
[22:15] <nomic>  could be power management settings
[22:15] <nomic> not just "screensaver"