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imgbot=== trainguards: IMAGE 272 building (started: 20141007 02:10) ===02:09
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 88 building (started: 20141007 03:10) ===03:10
imgbot=== trainguards: IMAGE 272 DONE (finished: 20141007 04:00) ===03:59
imgbot=== changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/272.changes ===04:00
imgbot=== trainguards: RTM IMAGE 88 DONE (finished: 20141007 04:20) ===04:19
imgbot=== changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/88.changes ===04:20
rsalvetiogra_: should we just sync ubuntu-touch-session?05:16
rsalvetiogra_: I have a landing that I want to do for rtm that includes ubuntu-touch-session and tp-ofono05:16
rsalvetibut latest u-t-session includes your priority changes05:17
rsalvetinot sure if you want qa to sign that off first or not05:17
rsalvetiogra_: so in case you decide to land that, mind just syncing latest ubuntu-touch-session and tp-ofono?05:17
* rsalveti bed time05:18
thostr_Mirv: as urfkill was tested and will hopefully land pretty soon, can I get a silo for line 36 to start building/testing?07:04
thostr_Mirv: also, was wondering what's the state for line 6 as it says aborted but at the same time that it tested well07:05
Mirvthostr_: it seems urfkill (line 6, silo 011) has regressed in the sense that it no longer builds for arm64, powerpc and ppc64el07:12
Mirvcyphermox: ^07:12
Mirvand therefore the build job never finishes07:13
Mirvif that's by plan, cyphermox should contact archive admins to get this architectures change accepted and uploaded07:13
Mirvadded a comment07:14
Mirvthostr_: assigned line 36 ignoring conflicts07:14
Mirvthostr_: that urfkill problem only affects utopic naturally, not rtm07:15
thostr_Mirv: thanks07:15
tvossgood morning07:22
tvosstrainguards, could someone reconfigure silo 1 for me?07:22
Mirvtvoss: done, it removed dbus-cpp from the silo07:24
tvossMirv, yup, AlbertA landed that part tonight07:24
Mirvand morning07:24
sil2100tvoss: want a reconfigure for that ^ ?07:42
tvosssil2100, nope, Mirv already reconfigured the silo07:42
sil2100ACK07:43
tvosssil2100, thanks for asking, and good morning :)07:43
brendanddon't tell me silo 09 is also busted...07:59
* brendand waits07:59
sil2100brendand: what's up?08:01
brendandsil2100, same thing as 2008:01
sil2100uh?08:02
sil2100hmmm08:02
brendandseems like a mess of dependencies08:02
sil2100mzanetti, Saviq: ^ ?08:02
sil2100mzanetti, Saviq: do you have any problems after installing rtm silo 009?08:02
brendandthis time fallback adb doesn't work - maybe that got merged08:02
brendandogra_, ^?08:02
Saviqsil2100, not that I know of, kgunn tested it yesterday and gave it a +108:03
Saviqlemme try it out08:03
brendandsil2100, ...08:03
brendandThe following packages will be REMOVED:08:03
brendand  ubuntu-system-settings-wizard ubuntu-touch ubuntu-touch-session08:03
brendand!!!!08:03
sil2100uh?08:04
sil2100Looks like a killer feature to me08:04
sil2100With emphasis on 'killer'08:04
sil2100I wonder which dep causes this to happen08:06
Mirvtvoss: it looks like it didn't remove the package it said it removed, so removing dbus-cpp manually from landing-00108:09
tvossMirv, thank you08:10
brendandSaviq, yeah looks like kgunn tested it08:14
ogra_trainguards, i'd like a silo for line 7008:15
Saviqbrendand, same thing happened to me with the citrain tool08:16
Saviqbrendand, but apt worked fine08:17
Saviqbrendand, I'm reflashing now and will investigate step by step08:20
Mirvogra_: ubuntu-touch-session is already in rtm/00208:21
cjwatsonSome of the binaries in that PPA shouldn't be installed on a device, so you probably need to supply an explicit list of packages to phablet-config writable-image.08:21
cjwatsonSadly citrain doesn't offer that interface.08:21
ogra_Mirv, well, it is already in utopic ... and rsalveti asked me to take care of his landing too (which i was planning to do afterwards)08:22
cjwatsonSpecifically e.g. qtmir-desktop but perhaps others08:22
brendandcjwatson, it does dist-upgrade, surely that should be ok?08:22
cjwatsonbrendand: What does?08:22
brendandcjwatson, the citrain tool08:22
cjwatsonbrendand: Only for host-upgrade.08:22
Mirvogra_: alright, 002 does not seem landing immediately08:22
brendandcjwatson, no for device-upgrade too08:23
Mirvogra_: rtm-022 for you08:23
ogra_Mirv, thanks08:23
brendandadb shell SUDO_ASKPASS=/tmp/askpass.sh sudo -A apt-get dist-upgrade --yes08:23
cjwatsonbrendand: Oh, right, misreading ...08:23
cjwatsonbrendand: Well in that case need a less incomplete log08:23
brendandcjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513034/08:24
ogra_The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:08:25
ogra_  lightdm08:25
ogra_wow !08:25
cjwatsonogra_: Because ubuntu-touch is being forced out08:25
cjwatsonProbably08:25
ogra_yeah08:25
ogra_most likely08:25
cjwatsonActually ubuntu-touch-session, but anyway08:26
Saviqsil2100, brendand, ok, so the way the citrain tool is doing device-upgrade is the problem08:30
Saviqsil2100, brendand, unity8-private has a new dependency on qml-module-connectivity08:30
cjwatsonOh yeah so it doesn't work because of disabling the primary archive during dist-upgrade08:31
Saviqbut the citrain tool removes sources.list during the dist-upgrade, meaning that package is nowhere to be found08:31
Saviqyup08:31
Saviqwhich breaks havoc08:31
cjwatsonso writable-image, install qml-module-connectivity, then citrain08:32
Saviqyeah, that'd work08:32
Saviqqml-module-ubuntu-connectivity to be exact08:33
Saviqbrendand, sil2100 U08:33
Saviq08:33
sil2100Saviq: thanks!08:33
seb128Saviq, is that thing telling you e.g if you have data enable/are online?08:35
Saviqseb128, yes08:35
seb128great08:35
Saviqseb128, http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Connectivity.index/08:35
seb128is the api documented somewhere?08:35
seb128Saviq, thanks08:35
brendandSaviq, cjwatson - Mirv provided a more correct way of upgrading from a specific ppa so i will file a bug on phablet-tools to update citrain to use that08:51
Saviqbrendand, coolz, thanks08:51
brendandSaviq, in the meantime, if the install steps for a silo varies from just running citrain then you have to remember to provide those steps08:51
brendandSaviq, pass that on to your team08:51
brendandSaviq, we in QA don't read minds :)08:51
brendandwe have many talents but not that08:51
Saviqbrendand, well, if I knew before, I just went manual I'm afraid08:52
ogra_brendand, just hire someone then !08:52
Saviqbrendand, but I'll be keeping a closer look now08:52
brendandogra_, yes a mindreader would be useful08:52
oSoMoNtrainguards: note, 87 and 88 are ready but ubuntu/landing-014 is blocking as it still has a package in the unapproved queue09:03
ogra_trainguards, i seem to have a weird gpg key issue in rtm-022 https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-022-1-build/11/console09:03
ogra_gpgv: Signature made Tue 07 Oct 2014 08:35:27 AM UTC using RSA key ID B879A3E909:03
ogra_gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found09:03
ogra_dpkg-source: warning: failed to verify signature on ./ubuntu-touch-session_0.108+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1.dsc09:03
ogra_(that was a source package sync from utopic)09:04
cjwatsonogra_: That's not the error, it's just out-of-order output09:04
cjwatsonI'm not sure exactly what the error is but it's not that :)09:04
ogra_hmm09:04
ogra_it complains about the changelog being empty a little higher up09:05
cjwatsonWhy not just copy the source package?09:05
ogra_which is weird as well for a synced package09:05
cjwatsonRather than doing a weird citrain thing which furtles about with the package09:05
ogra_cjwatson, i thought that is what was done when the silo was set up09:05
cjwatsonEvidently not!09:05
cjwatsonDo you even need to rebuild the source here?09:06
ogra_theoretically not (its even only a 1char change in an upstart job)09:07
cjwatsonMaybe it should have been "sync:69"09:07
ogra_but right, there are no packages in there at all09:07
ogra_it was originally09:07
ogra_not sure who changed it09:07
cjwatsonPersonally I would just copy-package -b rather than attempting to understand this09:07
ogra_GRRR °!09:13
ogra_i hate that i always have to click twice in henkins (and that it forgets my selection over that)09:14
* ogra_ wanted a watch only build ... indeed the second click swallowed the check mark 09:14
Mirvogra_: familiar feeling09:14
ogra_well, re-building wont do harm i guess09:15
ogra_pfft09:17
ogra_brendand, given jibel tested the ubuntu-touch-session change yesterday already, do you think it is ok to call it an isolated bugfix so i can land it after afunctional test of the package (after all iits only a one char change) ?09:20
brendandogra_, what did i say yesterday :)09:21
ogra_dunno ....09:21
* ogra_ looks for the scrollback 09:21
ogra_:)09:21
brendandogra_, if there was ever a better example of a one-character change having a big impact, this is it09:22
brendandogra_, can we at least give it a brief smoke test?09:22
ogra_brendand, i'll install it on my production phone anyway09:23
ogra_which should be a "long smoke test" :)09:23
ogra_tell me if you want to do additional QA signoff too ...09:23
ogra_(i just want to know if i need to set the checkmark :) )09:24
brendandogra_, yes i do09:24
ogra_thanks09:24
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brendandSaviq, is there a way i can watch for apps being suspended (according to the lifecycle management model)?09:55
Saviqbrendand, ps ax | grep binary09:56
Saviqbrendand, if status is S, it's running, if T it's suspended09:56
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popeycihelp could someone help with this merge which appears to be barfing on a packaging issue? https://code.launchpad.net/~dpniel/ubuntu-weather-app/timezonePlugin/+merge/23538910:19
psivaapopey: looking10:20
popeythanks10:20
brendandogra_, is it possible to exercise a measure of control over what's in the next image?10:28
brendandogra_, can we be sure that only stuff in silos that we sign off will land?10:29
ogra_brendand, you can check it with rmadison ...10:30
ogra_brendand, the silo "publish" button should theoretically be your control10:32
ogra_we have a way to block stuff in proposed ... but that woulld just dupliacate that functionality10:32
sil2100brendand: that's basically why the publish step is manual10:36
sil2100brendand: that we only publish what we want to land in the image - so if there's something you don't want to land in an image yet but is ready to publish, just give us a sign10:36
thostr_can I get a silo for line 37?10:49
psivaapopey: the upstream tarball that's available for this version 'ubuntu-weather-app_1.8.3ubuntu1' has deps issue. i dont know how to update that. will have to wait for fginther10:51
popeypsivaa: ok, thanks.10:52
Mirvted: Wellark: thostr_: please deal between yourself whether the new wellark landing goes in first or ted's Indicator Greeter Modes. both have silos and both have unity8.10:54
WellarkMirv: which one should i use for silo testing? ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed or ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 ?11:01
cwayne /me anxiously awaits rtm silo 9 to land so I can have pull-to-refresh11:01
ogra_Wellark, proposed indeed ...11:02
ogra_Wellark, the other oone is days old usually11:02
WellarkMirv: ted is not around, so he has no saying11:02
Wellarkjust land my stuff first ;)11:02
MirvWellark: yeah, I don't see him objecting to that ;)11:03
Wellarkcould I get a silo for line 89?11:04
Wellarkoh, sorry11:04
WellarkI have!11:04
Wellarkwhat!?11:05
WellarkMirv: what is that  --^11:05
MirvWellark: something is not in sync, looking.11:06
brendandsil2100, psivaa - so u-s-s autopilot tests are ok here11:06
Mirvwhen we have utopic + rtm + everyone wanting to land unity8 changes, it gets kind of complicated11:06
sil2100brendand: hmm11:07
WellarkMirv: thanks!11:07
psivaabrendand: was that from a fresh install?11:07
brendandpsivaa, yeah11:07
brendandpsivaa, utopic11:07
psivaabrendand: ok, and if it's 272 then it's going to be tricky to narrow that down11:08
ogra_tvoss, i just noticed something watching the oom scores while testing the session score fix here ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513826/ ... seems the oxide renderers never get bumped, even if the webapps are in the background11:08
psivaabrendand: could be something that happened before is causing this11:08
ogra_tvoss, in case of that paste dekko is the foreground app11:09
ogra_and while the webapp-containers get bumped up, their backends never do11:09
MirvWellark: cool, just one silo was missing the clean that became possible to do an hour ago. please rebuild now.11:09
Mirvalso, lots of indicator landings ongoing too11:10
WellarkMirv: what do I have to do to get a decent service around here..11:10
Wellarkfine. I will rebuild it!11:10
Wellark;)11:10
WellarkMirv: is it enough to rebuild i-network alone?11:11
MirvWellark: I think not, the unity8 didn't reach the PPA either yet11:12
davmor2ev: should I be worried that apport is crashing?11:16
davmor2sil2100: the crashes so far http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513883/11:17
sil2100Holy crap11:17
sil2100davmor2: you were opening and closing a lot of apps, right?11:18
davmor2sil2100: nope haven't got that far yet this is just running through the standard tests11:18
sil2100WTH11:18
sil2100davmor2: ok, that doesn't look to good, but just to be sure - did we check this during last promotion testing?11:19
sil2100brendand: ^ ?11:19
ogra_sil2100, hmm, i think i saw that too on some settle-before top outputs11:19
ogra_(apport running)11:19
davmor2sil2100: probably not I saw the settings app crash so wanted to check if there was a crash for it and that is what I saw11:20
sil2100Most of them seem to be similar to what we see in smoketesting11:20
davmor2sil2100: it might be a healthy thing to do in future11:20
davmor2sil2100: yeah most likely11:20
Saviqsil2100, hey, do you remember if :native qualifier was fixed somehow in -ci jobs? http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/unity8-utopic-amd64-ci/1610/console11:53
sil2100Saviq: sadly I don't know11:54
Saviqok, fginther will when he's around11:54
t1mphello11:55
t1mpwe have a lot of (random?) failing tests in CI and autolanding for UITK since a few weeks11:55
t1mpis this something that's happening in other projects as well, or only UITK?11:55
Saviqsil2100, any updates on bug #1359667? or the staging idea we talked about (did I not file a bug about this?)11:56
ubot5bug 1359667 in CI Train [cu2d] "There should be a hook mechanism available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135966711:56
Mirvpstolowski: I can probably remove your line 96 since I added the rtm silo straight beneath the utopic one (which I like for easier seeing the both)12:07
pstolowskiMirv, sure, thanks12:10
Mirvogra_: I wonder if you're interested in acking the package changes at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-018-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_ubuntu-app-launch_0.4+14.10.20141006-0ubuntu1.diff ? barry` tried to publish it yesterday to utopic.12:11
brendandmzanetti, there is a bug not fixed by rtm silo 009 that is mentioned as being fixed12:12
brendandmzanetti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/128246012:12
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1282460 in unity-scope-click (Ubuntu) "Missing rating info in app preview header" [High,Triaged]12:12
ogra_Mirv, isnt barry code-dev ?12:12
ogra_Mirv, ack12:13
Mirvogra_: yes he is, but he didn't launch it again.12:13
Mirvogra_: thanks.12:13
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Mirvbarry`: so if you see the "UNSTABLE" / yellow publish job results, you can review the debian/ changes and then use the ACK_PACKAGING option when running the publish job again12:14
evdavmor2: apport itself? Yes, that's worth noting.12:34
WellarkMirv: land lines 36 and 37 quick before ted gets online!12:36
sil2100Mirv: I think barry` should know that! I guess..!12:40
sil2100Maybe he just forgot..?12:40
davmor2ev: yeap it looks like 3 of the bugs haven't been able to upload so I'm assuming they ran out of memory trying to file it at a guess _usr_share_apport_recoverable_problem.32011.crash12:42
davmor2_usr_share_apport_recoverable_problem.32011.upload12:42
Mirvsil2100: can you check 016 utopic error please?12:43
* Mirv needs to run12:43
sil2100Mirv: ACK12:43
sil2100o/12:43
evdavmor2: problems in recoverable_problem aren't critical. This is just an API for reporting problems the application was able to recover from.12:44
evbut it's still important to fix12:44
evobvs12:44
sil2100Mirv: ok, this needs to be rebuilt...12:44
davmor2ev: :)12:44
evdavmor2: do you know the errors.u.c URL for it?12:44
davmor2ev: doesn't say uploaded so I don't know12:45
sil2100thostr_: so, sadly! Silo ubuntu/016 needs a rebuild12:45
sil2100thostr_: the indicator-network package there is no longer up-to-date, as 2 hours ago a new indicator-network landed to the archive12:45
sil2100So it needs to be rebuilt12:46
evdavmor2: 'ave a look at your log, see if you can find the crash ID12:46
thostr_sil2100: ok, will trigger one12:46
sil2100thostr_: this also means, sadly, another re-test ;/12:46
davmor2ev: and previous error reports still doesn't work12:46
thostr_sil2100: no worries12:46
sil2100Thanks!12:47
thostr_sil2100: which one indicator network silo did you land12:47
brendandSaviq, is mzanetti around today?12:48
Saviqbrendand, yeah, I think he's lunching atm12:48
Wellarkumm.. what happened?12:50
Wellarksil2100, thostr_ ?12:50
thostr_Wellark: indicator reordering landed for utopic12:52
Wellarkted, I know you are here somewhere!12:52
Wellarkthostr_: ok :)12:52
sil2100thostr_: I didn't land it, but I think Mirv landed it12:53
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Wellarksil2100: ok, once silo 16 has built i-network again, please land it12:54
Wellarkit's ready12:54
tedWellark, Good morning! :-)12:54
Saviqted, aren't bug #1223850, bug #1323654 fixed?13:04
ubot5bug 1223850 in url-dispatcher (Ubuntu Saucy) "please support http and https URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122385013:04
ubot5bug 1323654 in url-dispatcher (Ubuntu) "error launching calendar/g+ from gmail webapp" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132365413:04
tedSaviq, Yeah, I think so.13:05
tedSaviq, We're still getting a few recoverable errors on the second one, but I think it's just non-upgraded devices. They're not in the newer versions.13:05
tedSaviq, I think that what I've learned there is that the image deployment process is *really* slow at getting updates out.13:05
Saviq;)13:06
sil2100Wellark: did you re-test?13:06
sil2100thostr_: ^ ?13:06
Saviqted, one for you though: bug #v13:06
Saviqbug #137835013:06
ubot5bug 1378350 in url-dispatcher (Ubuntu) "Need to allow multiple apps to handle the same url patterns" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137835013:06
thostr_sil2100: Wellark: this is still building...13:07
tedSaviq, I think we have a bug for that, let me look. It's a 15.04 issue, needs design, but on the proposed list for DC.13:08
Saviqted, ah, didn't see one in the 20 or so bugs that are there for url-dispatcher{, (ubuntu)}13:08
mzanettibrendand: yes, I am13:09
* Saviq dogfooded the phone for 3 weeks with my wife, got a slew of bugs to file everywhere13:09
cjwatsonSaviq: At least some jobs have "hook_source: lp:~canonical-ci-engineering/+junk/native-strip-hook", which looks relevant13:09
brendandmzanetti, did you get my earlier ping?13:09
tedSaviq, Hmm, yeah. I guess we didn't have a bug to track it. Yours gets to be it! :-)13:09
Saviq\o/13:09
mzanettibrendand: yeah... sorry... I just ignored this channel given that it pings me every 5 minutes13:10
Saviqcjwatson, indeed13:10
Saviqmzanetti, fix your IRC client13:10
mzanettiSaviq: my client is working fine13:10
Saviqmzanetti, I don't get pings from here at all, wonder why13:10
cjwatsonSaviq: not unity8, but I guess it's easy to add13:10
Saviqcjwatson, yeah, should be13:10
Saviqcjwatson, we'll need to add it to all the projects that have the direct g++ 4.9 dep to allow them to cross compile13:11
Saviqi.e. bug #135385513:11
ubot5bug 1353855 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Explicit g++ 4.9 dependency breaks cross-building" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135385513:11
cjwatsonSaviq: Why do you need :native on that?  I would have thought you normally wanted the compiler for the host architecture except in some special cases.13:12
Saviqcjwatson, because apt can't resolve the deps for cross-building, try `apt-get build-dep -aarmhf unity8`13:13
Saviqted, my mind just thought about squashing content-hub and url-dispatcher together... urls are content after all ;)13:13
cjwatsonSaviq: stripping :native won't help; you don't have any :native build-deps in unity813:13
Saviqcjwatson, not yet, there's a branch13:13
cjwatsonoh I see13:14
Saviqhttps://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/unity8/fix-cross/+merge/23481813:14
* cjwatson peers13:14
cjwatsonSaviq: that looks precisely backwards13:14
tedSaviq, I don't think that's off the table, not sure if we want something simpler for URLs though.13:14
Saviqcjwatson, I know... but it works...13:14
Saviqcjwatson, I think it just tricks apt into resolving13:14
tedSaviq, I'm happy maintaining less projects :-)13:14
cjwatsonSaviq: I'll follow up, I don't approve13:14
tedSaviq, And as a bonus, it gives work to kenvandine.13:15
Saviqcjwatson, what *I* would like is for all the projects that have the g++-4.9 dep Just Work™ for cross-building13:15
* kenvandine ignores ted, as usual :)13:15
cjwatsonSaviq: the proper fix for this isn't to hack about in individual projects; Debian has been working on a better standard fix13:15
cjwatsoncame up at debconf13:15
Saviqoh good13:15
dobeycjwatson: is there a better actual fix that can be done now?13:17
cjwatsonlet me follow up in the MP13:17
cjwatsonyou can probably do this but you really need to be aware of the downsides and they need to be explicitly commented in the control files13:17
cjwatsonbecause they are not obvious13:17
dobeyit's what we're doing in other projects (so i don't know why pbuilder is failing there)13:17
cjwatsonso maybe "don't approve" is a bit strong, but anyway, IRC margin too narrow for this conversation, will comment in more detail13:21
sil2100brendand: do you have time now?13:30
brendandsil2100, for what? lrt - i'm here13:31
alecuhi trainguards! I'd like to add a branch to an existing silo. Is it just a matter of adding the new MP to the right cell, and clicking on "rebuild" ?13:31
alecuOr is there any other step I should follow?13:32
alecuok, just clicked on "Reconfigure silo". Maybe I should have waited till the previous packages were built.13:37
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alecuand the build seems to be chugging along.... trainguards nevermind the above ^13:38
barryalecu: hi.  sorry, i missed your message, but glad you figured it out! :)13:39
alecuno problem, thanks anyway :-)13:39
Wellarksil2100: jussi did a new testing round on silo 16. all green13:42
sil2100I had a meeting, just got back13:42
sil2100Wellark: aye!13:42
sil2100alecu: oh ;)13:43
sil2100Wellark: oh, and I see someone just published your silo!13:43
sil2100Mirv: it was YOU, wasn't it?!13:43
sil2100:)13:43
Wellarkwell, he had to make up for the careless act of publishing the indicator reordering too soon :)13:44
fgintherpopey, https://code.launchpad.net/~dpniel/ubuntu-weather-app/timezonePlugin/+merge/235389 is building successfully now13:47
popeythanks fginther13:47
ogra_sil2100, what is the bot telling me there ?13:52
ogra_(rtm 022)13:53
sil2100ogra_: usually that means that the MPs you want to release are not in the top 'Approved' state13:53
ogra_that was a sync from utopic ... not sure why it thinks anything could be unapproved13:53
sil2100Ah, ok,13:53
sil2100Someone left the merges in there13:53
ogra_oh. yeah13:53
sil2100ogra_: so, someone made the landing and didn't clean the merges list13:54
ogra_sil2100, right, i dont know who changed it from syncing from the utopic silo to syncing from the archive either13:54
sil2100Let me reconfigure and republish13:54
ogra_i removed the url13:54
ogra_(someone definitely shuffled the spreadsheet data over night)13:55
sil2100The spreasheet needs to DIE13:55
ogra_++13:55
sil2100ogra_, barry: published o/13:58
sil2100:)13:58
ogra_thx !!13:58
barrysil2100: rock on!13:58
ogra_now on to rsalveti's ubuntu-touch-session landing13:58
sil2100barry: remember to clean the MP list for sync: silos in case you see people leaving those13:59
sil2100barry: sync: silos shouldn't usually have any merges in them (even though it's possible to land one thing with some new merges)13:59
ogra_i wonder if i can build already or if i have to wait til my package is in the archive13:59
barrysil2100: i guess the best way to scan for those is via the dashboard?13:59
sil2100barry: yeah, but you can also just look at the spreadsheet14:00
jdstrandted: where does one approve the setuid changes?14:00
jdstrandted: and hi!14:00
jdstrandI approve the packaging, sarnold approved the MP14:00
jdstrandso if it is good enough to mention it here, consider it mentioned. otherwise, please advise14:01
tedjdstrand, Cool, yeah, it seems the packaging has been ack'd.14:01
barrysil2100: hmm, it's not clear to me what criteria in the spreadsheet is easily scanned to know which syncs can be cleaned14:01
tedjdstrand, Not sure if that was you or not.14:01
jdstrandit was not14:01
tedjdstrand, But that's what we needed.14:01
jdstrandok, well, double review then :)14:01
barryted: was this the landing from yesterday?14:02
tedHeh, not a bad thing to double review :-)14:02
tedbarry, Yes14:02
tedubuntu silo 1814:02
barryted: cool, i'll ack the pack14:02
barryoh, looks like it's already been published14:03
tedbarry, Yeah, I think it's in flight.14:03
barryted: at least this whole process isn't racy <wink>14:03
tedbarry, I think the European gnomes must have gotten to it while we were sleeping :-)14:03
barryted: the lesson i learn from that is that i should go back to sleep!  :)14:04
ogra_sil2100, hmm, i made a mess in silo rtm002 ...14:09
sil2100002?14:09
ogra_(i accidentially copied telepathy-ofono binaries where i shouldnt have)14:09
sil2100Oh14:09
ogra_after deleting the package i cant copy the source anymore14:10
sil2100Where did you want to copy it to?14:10
ogra_from utopic to rtm 00214:10
sil2100uh14:10
sil2100Yeah, that's the common problem with LP PPA's14:10
davmor2sil2100: this issue where the app you open looks to of crashed is getting old really quickly :(14:11
sil2100You would need to reupload with a bumped version14:11
sil2100davmor2: what do you mean?14:11
ogra_sigh14:11
Laneyyou could probably use a different PPA14:12
tedI updated the Trello card with ToyKeeper's comments, but I can't seem to remove the "blocked" tag to put it back on review.14:12
tedIs this a permissions thing or am I missing how to do that?14:12
davmor2sil2100: you use the phone for a bit open an app and the whole system freezes eventually it looks like it restarts something and then you have a working system again14:13
ogra_Laney, oh, they dont use the same archive, yeah14:13
ogra_sil2100, ^^ could you move that landing to another PPA ?14:13
sil2100ogra_: hm, could be doable, but it'll take a few moments14:14
nik90Saviq: ping14:17
Saviqnik90, pong14:19
nik90Saviq: I saw earlier that you were adding Ubuntu.Connectivity as a dependency of Unity8, which silo were you referring to?14:19
nik90Saviq: I just want to make sure that the qml-connectivity-plugin is present in the images by default before I start using it in my app14:19
sil2100elopio: hey! Give me a ping once you're around14:20
bregmatrainguards, I have a package for SRU in the UNAPPROVED queue, and it ended up without a bug number in the automatically-created changelog (for unknown reasons) ...  do I just rebuild the package again even though it's already published to the UNAPPROVED queue?14:20
sil2100argh14:21
sil2100hmm14:21
sil2100bregma: somoene from the SRU team pointed this out?14:21
bregmasil2100, yes, although I noticed the bug number was not in the changelog earlier (then forgot to follow up)14:22
bregmamy bad for that14:22
Saviqnik90, weelll, you should only use it if the framework ensures it's there14:22
Saviqnik90, which I don't think is the case at the moment14:22
sil2100bregma: so yeah, it can be rebuilt and republished in the same silo - just wondering what caused the bug number not to be registered14:22
SaviqWellark, do you know if Ubuntu.Connectivity will be added to a framework?14:23
nik90Saviq: framework as in the ubuntu-sdk-14.10 framework?14:23
Saviqnik90, yeah, see `click framework list`14:23
bregmasil2100, OK, and yes I'm wondering that too: if a rebuild doesn't fix it I'll add an explicit changelog14:23
Saviqnik90, there isn't a 14.10 no-dev one yet, but it will be there before release14:24
nik90Saviq: I am using the 14.10 framework for the app eitherway14:24
nik90Saviq: but it seems like the connectivity plugin isn't in the devel framework as well14:24
Saviqnik90, well, sure, but that framework doesn't yet provide the connectivity module14:24
sil2100bregma: ok, just give me a sign if the rebuild doesn't help, then I might look into it also from the train side14:25
Saviqnik90, yeah, exactly, it would need adding there, I'm not sure who decides what gets there...14:25
nik90Saviq: ah I think I know who :-)14:25
bregmasil2100, sure14:25
nik90ogra_: ping ^^14:25
WellarkSaviq: no idea14:25
WellarkSaviq: we have frameworks?14:25
* Wellark hides14:25
WellarkSaviq: that would probably be a question for the sdk team14:26
seb128sil2100, what's the right way to get a trivial change in utopic and rtm?14:29
sil2100seb128: both at once? How trivial the change is? Usually the recommended way is landing it to utopic first and then syncing it up to an RTM silo and releasing14:29
seb128sil2100, it's adding a one line X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes to content-hub's debian/control14:30
sil2100seb128: I suppose you could land it for utopic through a silo (since it's a CI Train managed project), and then - if QA agrees, we could sync it to an RTM silo and let it through without QA sign-off14:31
seb128sil2100, who do I ask if QA agrees?14:32
seb128sil2100, I need to first land to utopic and then redo a landing for rtm silo?14:32
sil2100seb128: best consult davmor2 or brendand, they're the current QA guards :)14:32
sil2100seb128: if you prepare a landing for utopic, we'll prepare a landing for RTM for you14:32
seb128I though we had facilities to get it uploaded to rtm as well as utopic?14:32
seb128sil2100, ok, thanks14:32
seb128let me do that then14:32
sil2100But you'll have to test it anyway14:33
tedbarry, Can I get a silo for line 42 please?14:33
sil2100Yeah, CI Train handles all the package copies so it's not much manual work14:33
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bregmasil2100, a simple rebuild did not fix the changelog ... it's in landing-012 if you want to take a look, but I'm going to prepare an explicit changelog MP so do not tarry too long14:34
seb128sil2100, not sure how to test "launchpad should import translations" before it lands in the launchpad pocket14:34
seb128sil2100, it's not like I can locally fake launchpad14:35
sil2100I guess all we need is just installing it on the image and checking if content-hub still works, I guess14:35
sil2100bregma: sorry for that ;/14:35
sil2100bregma: I wonder what's up14:35
bregmaif (lander == "bregma"):14:37
ogra_sil2100, so seems rsalveti says we can just copy over to the archive, dont assign a silo for the given up rtm-00214:38
sil2100Aaaaa14:38
sil2100AaAAAaaa14:38
sil2100;)14:38
sil2100But wait!14:39
sil2100Without QA SIGN-OFF?!14:39
ogra_sil2100, thats what i was just told14:39
rsalvetiwell, do we want qa sign off for every minor change?14:39
rsalvetiand bug fix?14:39
rsalvetiif so, fine with ppa14:39
rsalvetibut I thought that minor fixes could go in directly14:39
sil2100rsalveti: what kind of a change it is?14:39
ogra_rsalveti, well, i just waited a whole day for my one char change :P14:39
rsalvetisil2100: disabling pulse autospawn, as we have an upstart job for it14:40
sil2100If it's really minor we can let it through, but I prefer when QA guys are aware of the things that get copied over without their attention14:40
sil2100brendand, davmor2: ^14:40
rsalvetiand landing via a silo will make then know what landed?14:41
barryted: looks like it was already done for you?14:41
rsalvetithat's the same thing as looking for the rtm 14.09 changes mailing list14:41
rsalvetiogra_: let's just do it via silo 27 then and everybody will be happy it seems14:42
tedbarry, Hmm, I don't seem to have one for line 42, the rtm one?14:43
sil2100rsalveti: it's not that, I want QA to say if it's ok to let it through without QA sign-off14:43
sil2100rsalveti: usually we consult with them if they're happy to see the change going through without QA sign-off14:43
rsalvetisil2100: oh, so we need an ack for every change from QA basically?14:43
davmor2brendand, rsalveti: let me get this straight, You are disabling pulse autostart because there is a pulse respawn upstart job?  Why was this never used before?14:43
rsalvetidavmor2: it was used, this is to fix a race14:44
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rsalvetithat sometimes tp-ofono triggers upstart outside of the upstart job14:44
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rsalvetiwe have a bug number for it, just a sec14:44
barryted, is it safe to override the dupe? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/prepare-silo/2597/console14:44
rsalvetidavmor2: bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-ofono/+bug/137524914:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1375249 in telepathy-ofono (Ubuntu) "telepathy-ofono tries to open /proc/1728/fd/ and is DENIED access by apparmor" [High,Fix released]14:44
tedbarry, Yeah, it'll have to wait on rtm5 landing to land, but we can test it before.14:45
barryted: +114:45
tedbarry, Also can I get a silo for line 98 please?14:45
barryted: yep14:45
tedbarry, It'll conflict with silo 13, but that's okay.14:45
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nik90Wellark: is the package name for connectivity called qml-module-connectivity?14:53
nik90Wellark: I can get it added to the ubuntu-seeds which would make it into the images14:53
ogra_nik90, make an MP against lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic/14:57
nik90ogra_: cool will do so14:57
davmor2rsalveti: yeah so it is effectively just turning off the one in favour of the other then right?14:57
rsalvetidavmor2: we always had the upstart job, and that works most of the times14:58
rsalvetidavmor2: the problem is when tp-ofono starts before pulse, and that was triggering pulse to auto-start14:58
rsalvetidavmor2: causing a few apparmor denials14:59
rsalvetiso I just made the tp-ofono -> pulse calls to not request pulse to auto start14:59
rsalvetiand also disabled that option in pulse's config14:59
rsalvetias we don't want apps starting pulse, because we have an upstart job taking care of that14:59
davmor2rsalveti: right okay, that doesn't sound like a bad thing.  and I'm assuming it will become blatantly apparently very quickly if sound doesn't work and then we all point the finger at you ;)15:00
rsalvetidavmor2: yup :-)15:00
davmor2sil2100: I'd say let it through if it is a redundant system lose it but keep hold of a revert just incase15:01
Wellarknik90: yeah, I think it was15:09
Wellarkor ubuntu-connectivity15:09
Wellarkcan't remember15:09
nik90Wellark: found it, its qml-module-ubuntu-connectivity15:10
rsalvetidavmor2: will test latest rtm with https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-027 at least :-)15:11
nik90ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-seeds/add-qml-connectivity/+merge/23744215:12
ogra_nik90, thx15:13
Mirvsil2100: nope! we've barry now who wakes up 3h earlier than robert did :)15:18
ogra_crazy !15:18
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Mirvthostr_: I think your indicator-network rtm-026 can be forced to build, as the text is "A version (0.5.1+14.10.20140829~rtm-0ubuntu1) is available at the destination archive for that component but is not in the destination branch which is still at 0.5.1+14.10.20141006-0ubuntu1." ie this is not a problem otherwise but the fact that rtm will get possibly multiple newer versions at the same time15:21
thostr_Mirv: just rebuilding using the force flag?15:22
Mirvthostr_: I'm trying that right now, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-026-1-build/8/console15:22
thostr_yes, I see15:22
thostr_thanks15:22
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Mirvthostr_: oh, hmm, aborting. actually, those MP:s shouldn't be relisted there.15:23
Mirvthostr_: so it needs to be that sync:16 only. reconfiguring.15:23
Mirvthostr_: and now it's building without the force.15:24
Mirvor actually, just syncing.15:24
thostr_Mirv: ok15:24
thostr_Mirv: so once i went through we can start testing15:25
Mirvthostr_: yes so once https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-026-1-build/9/console is finished you can start testing15:25
Mirvit waits for the packages to be properly published in the PPA.15:25
ogra_uuuh15:26
ogra_sil2100, that rtm 026 above looks bad15:26
sil2100ugh15:26
Mirvogra_: sil2100: no, no, that was the _previous_ build run :)15:26
ogra_lol15:26
ogra_k15:26
sil2100phew15:26
sil2100;)15:26
Mirvand that beautiful error means "someone aborted the build job"15:26
sil2100Ah, yeah, now after Robert's changes that's how it looks15:27
kgunnbrendand: hey, any problem with silo9 anymore ?15:30
kgunni saw irc chat between you and saviq earlier, but i see it listed as still under test15:30
kgunnper ello.com/b/AE3swczu/silo-testing15:31
brendandkgunn, it needs a bit more testing15:31
brendandkgunn, ello - isn't that a new social network?15:31
kgunnbrendand: sorry meant trello.com/b/AE3swczu/silo-testing15:32
kgunn:)15:32
kgunnbrendand: and thanks...we're just getting backed up again...any eta ?15:32
brendandkgunn, it should be signed off before eod15:33
kgunncamako: ^15:33
camakoack.. that will unblock silo 2015:33
barrypassengers: i'll be afk for a bit during lunch15:34
brendandkgunn, i just checked the test plans, it's fine i covered everything. done15:38
kgunnbrendand: \o/15:38
brendandkgunn, i'll try and see to it that 20 gets tested next15:38
kgunncamako: you owe brendand man-hugs15:38
camakobrendand, silo 20 is not ready yet....15:38
camako:-)15:39
brendandcamako, i thought it would be fine once 9 landed?15:39
camakobrendand, once it lands , we'll have to rebuild qtmir and do some more testing..15:39
brendandcamako, ah so it needs to be rebuilt15:40
brendandcamako, ok15:40
brendandkgunn, any other silo you want to prioritise then?15:40
camakobrendand, yea I flipped the spreadsheet "testing done" column to "No"...15:40
tedogra_, So the adb shell is in its own session now?15:40
tedogra_, Looking at the cgroup paths.15:40
ogra_ted, ??15:40
tedogra_, $ adb shell cat /proc/self/cgroup15:41
ogra_ted, adbd is calling sudo -u phablet -i bash -ci15:41
ogra_which is treated like a login shell15:41
kgunnbrendand: np, silo20 was it...15:41
tedogra_, K, trying to understand why starting apps from adb is broken now. I think that's it.15:42
ogra_ted, (... and before it was just "bash -ci", i dont think anything changed due to teh sudo )15:42
ogra_(apart from the fact that sudo processes the pam stuff afaik15:43
ogra_)15:43
tedogra_, Yeah, I think the pam stuff is where logind connects in.15:43
tedogra_, Why didn't you run every test plan possible in the wiki before landing any change? ;-P15:43
ogra_ted, if starting apps from adb would be broken we wouldnt have any AP results since two weeks15:44
ogra_or even three15:44
ogra_ted, i ran all tests from the testing wiki15:44
ogra_like our daily smoke testing does too15:44
tedHmm, wonder how that works then.15:44
ogra_ted, the last actual change that could have affected anything here landed on sept. 11th15:45
ogra_ah, well, i'm lying, 13th actually15:46
tedHmm, okay, perhaps it's just clock. Calculator works.15:46
ogra_ted, are you sure you are up to date with the host side ?15:46
ogra_like ... on the latest adb15:46
ogra_(not that this would change much though)15:46
tedogra_, Seems so.15:47
ogra_ted, also ... do you properly use phablet-test-run ?15:47
tedogra_, I'm just adb shell, then calling ubuntu-app-launch. It works for calculator though.15:47
ogra_(which is what our smoke testing infra does as well)15:47
tedogra_, I figured clock was as simple as it got.15:47
ogra_ted, hmm, i remember elopio saying theer were some issues with AP tests that try to mangle $HOME15:48
tedSo, now, why doesn't clock work…15:48
ogra_not sure which ones that were though15:48
tedYeah, this isn't the AP tests. Just launching the ap.15:48
ogra_ted, ah, k ... just looking at the last successful rtm run of the clock tests from yesterady http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch_stable/mako/75:20141007:20140929.1/10836/ubuntu_clock_app/ it seems to work fine15:49
ogra_ted, while it doesnt in non-rtm images http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/mako/272:20141007:20140929.1/10831/ubuntu_clock_app/15:50
ogra_ted, both have the new adbd since a while ...15:51
ogra_so i'm not sure if/how adbd would be to blame15:51
tedHmm, yeah. We won't be able to get the process list from adb, but I don't know that we need that.15:52
ogra_well, happy to add any changes if you tell me which :)15:53
* ted queues up his wish list15:53
ogra_if you need logind, we might be able to hook somethin into /etc/profile.d for example15:53
tedI think it might be a GSettings issue.15:54
ogra_(which definitely gets processed to get you DBUS and UPSTART_SESSION variables in the shell)15:54
ogra_if there is any additional var we need to set, we can do it there with shell snippets15:54
tedBut I don't understand how it works normally if that's the case.15:54
cjwatsoncwayne: hey, so slangasek wanted me to chase up the custom image building disagreement (bug 1367332)15:57
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1367332 could not be found15:57
ogra_ted, well, adbd cant actually enter the running UI session ... it can only talk to it via dbus and upstart socket15:57
tedogra_, Sure, and I think that's partially the issue, it's ending up with a different environment.15:57
ogra_ted, i.e. i dont think there was ever logind involvement15:57
tedFor instance ubuntu-app-triplet isn't working either, seems to not find the click db.15:58
tedWhich is odd as click list does.15:58
ogra_ted, try with phablet-shell, just for comparison15:58
cjwatsoncwayne: I think our position here is that our images ought to be buildable in one shot on our primary Launchpad-based infrastructure without having to fetch stuff from Jenkins.  Could you point me to the code that builds the custom tarballs so that I can see what's involved here?  I might have some suggestions15:59
tedogra_, phablet-shell doesn't work for me as my ssh config is too complex for it. Need to fix that, but haven't yet :-/16:00
cjwatsoncwayne: Oh, is it lp:~savilerow-team/savilerow/rtm-custom-tools ?16:00
cwaynecjwatson: yep16:00
ogra_ted, ah, bad16:00
ogra_ted, ssh should be the same though16:00
tedYeah, I think so.16:00
cjwatsoncwayne: I think the point of disagreement here is fundamentally that Jenkins is anything but standard as far as most of Ubuntu goes :-)16:01
cwaynecjwatson: that's fair16:01
cjwatsonOh, so that's actually not a lot of code16:01
cwaynenope, the most complex part is installing it in an armhf pbuilder16:01
cjwatsoncwayne: So my suggestion was to borg this into livecd-rootfs16:01
cwaynewhich isn't particularly complex :)16:01
cwaynecjwatson: but isn't that how it already is done?16:02
cjwatsoncwayne: That's how the rootfs is built ...16:02
cjwatsone.g. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/ubuntu-touch/+build/842416:02
cwayneright16:02
cjwatsonWe could spit out a custom.tar.xz as another artifact there, and that way we always get rootfs and the baseline custom image changing in sync16:02
dbarthquick question about packages in unapproved; is there a way to unlock a silo (like rtm 14) to make room for another silo for oSoMon?16:03
cwaynecjwatson: but also important to note that the custom tarball will have more than just those custom apps, it'll also have lool's HERE stuff16:03
cjwatsonThat's proprietary, isn't it?16:03
loolyes16:03
cjwatsonSo I'm curious whether the TB has signed off on having proprietary code as part of baseline Ubuntu images16:03
bregmasil2100, landing-012 has been rebuilt with the bug explicitly added to the changelog and needs a re-publish, if you would be so inclined16:03
loolcjwatson: there's proprietary code from android in these images16:04
cjwatsonWhether it's done in LP or Jenkins doesn't massively change that16:04
sil2100bregma: o/ Let me deal with that16:04
loolfrom multiverse16:04
cjwatsonSure, different kind of code though16:04
cjwatsonIs HERE essentially hardware enablement?16:04
loolno16:04
cjwatsonHardware enablement has traditionally been regarded differently16:04
sil2100bregma: hm, that's an SRU for trusty, right?16:05
bregmasil2100, correct16:06
sil2100davmor2: meeting!16:06
slangaseklool, cjwatson, cwayne: I understood from the discussion that we were not planning to put the HERE code in the "default" custom tarball16:09
loolslangasek: we are16:09
loolslangasek: I mean, it's in right now16:09
ogra_slangasek, there might be different "default" tarballs16:09
loolhowever there are two versions; one for community images16:09
slangaseklool: but it's currently not a default16:09
looland one for production16:09
slangasekI'm talking about the community image16:09
loolslangasek: it's in the utopic mako and krillin images16:10
loolalbeit it's opt-in at runtime16:10
slangaseklool: what images?16:11
cwayneslangasek: I understood it would be..16:11
slangasekit's not in the rootfs (which has no mako or krillin version)16:11
loolslangasek: it's in the custom tarball16:12
ogra_slangasek, its in the custom tarballs16:12
ogra_the "default" custom tarballs :)16:12
slangasekso we're currently providing a custom tarball on the default channel, which contains HERE?16:12
loolyes16:12
ogra_yes16:12
slangasekok; so yeah, it was my understanding that we were not going to do that for the default channel on the community images16:13
ogra_but we currently do16:14
tedogra_, So here's the variables that are different between "adb shell env" and "adb shell initctl list-env" : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8515498/16:15
tedogra_, Can we have adb shell just pull a bunch of those from the upstart session?16:15
slangasekogra_: yes, I understand that's the status quo; but that's buggy16:15
tedogra_, I think that /usr/share/ubuntu-touch is probably the issue, but the others probably break something else.16:15
ogra_ted, you can put an /etc/profile.d snippet in place that transfers them i guess16:16
loolslangasek: in the initial addition, I had suggested we'd use two channels, one with and one without a custom tarball16:16
loolI remember a discussion with cwayne around; I'd have to dig into logs to see what pushed towards the current implementations, it might have been due to the fact that rtm + krillin would have a custom tarball by default16:16
lool*around that16:16
cjwatsonhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html   "The Ubuntu project reaffirms that it will not include closed-source components in its default configuration except where allowed by the existing exception for the provision of sufficient hardware support."16:16
cjwatsonhow the mighty have fallen16:17
ogra_ted, not sure how you get access to these values when not inside the session though16:17
tedogra_, How do we get the dbus session address?16:17
cjwatsonlool: so the problem then is that if we're relying on the custom tarball to ship the core apps, we can't quite do that16:17
tedogra_, The script that grabs it from the runtime dir?16:18
ogra_ted, same way as always, by reading it from a file (now in /run, before in ~/.cache)16:18
loolcjwatson: the original desire and the longer term plan is to ship this kind of software in a click package16:19
cwayneslangasek: what if we did 2 custom tarballs, one built on cdimage with *just* core apps, and one built on jenkins with whatever bits we need16:19
ogra_ted, whatever sets these vars would have to put them somewhere for us  ...*if* we cant just attch somehow to the upstart session and pull them at runtime from there16:20
tedogra_, Well if we can't attach to the upstart session starting apps isn't going to happen regardless.16:21
tedogra_, They're hardcoded else where, just avoiding doing that twice.16:21
ogra_ted, how does autopilot achieve that then ?16:22
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ogra_we obviously have apps starting during tests16:22
tedogra_, I think they're starting in a different environment, just clock is the only one using a gsettings key that needs that set.16:22
slangasekcwayne: yes, the right answer is to build separate custom tarballs, the default community one without HERE16:22
ogra_and i highly doubt any of these vars you list have ever been available in adb16:22
cjwatsoncwayne,slangasek: we may have to add a new package with the code involved here; it seems suboptimal to have to copy it around16:23
slangasekcwayne: I'm fine with the HERE one being built in jenkins16:23
cjwatsoncwayne,slangasek: though I don't know, maybe it doesn't change often enough to be worth caring16:23
tedogra_, Yes, but there's a libual change that moves more environment processing to the adb shell side of things (part of the performance work).16:23
slangasekcjwatson: to share the custom tarball building code, you mean?16:23
tedogra_, And I think that's what's causing the diff.16:23
ogra_ted, aha !16:23
* ogra_ finally understands the issue then16:23
ogra_ted, well, then we somehow need to get the vars over the fence16:24
ogra_but i'm not sure that will actualy be enough ...16:25
ogra_i.e. if some service asks back at logind it will get the wrong info16:25
cjwatsonslangasek: Yeah16:26
tedogra_, Yeah, I'm looking, but I'm curious if we need to move part of the session init script into somewhere more common.16:26
tedogra_, So both the unity session and the adb session just get the same vars.16:26
ogra_right16:27
tedogra_, Heh, the touch session writes ~/.profile16:28
tedogra_, I guess we just need to add to that :-/16:28
ogra_ted, please talk to jdstrand before though ...16:29
ogra_not sure we want to expose that stuff outside of XDG_RUNTIME_DIR16:29
ogra_(in fact whatever writes to ~/.profile should probably write to a file in XDG_RUNTIME_DIR ... and ~/.profile should get a single line sourcing this file)16:30
slangasekcjwatson: ok.  I wasn't sure if this would live in livecd-rootfs, and jenkins could just call it via a different target / configuration?16:30
tedNot sure that DESKTOP_SESSION is really privileged.16:30
tedogra_, Yes, definitely. But at the top of the file it admits that it's all a total hack :-)16:31
camakotrainguards, If I want to leave a branch out (i.e. not land) that is in a silo, do I just delete it from the spreadsheet, and click on 'Reconfigure Silo'?16:31
ogra_top of which file ?16:31
ogra_~/.profile surely doesnt say that here16:31
tedogra_, /usr/bin/ubuntu-touch-session16:31
tedogra_, It's the one writing to ~/.profile16:32
ogra_ted, well, mterry added that comment ...16:32
tedogra_, And setting up the XDG dirs.16:32
tedHeh, mterry is right.16:32
ogra_(a year after the file existed)16:32
ogra_well, it is less hacky than the original one we had :)16:33
ogra_*way* less hacky :)16:33
ogra_i agree its a hack ... but the only way to not have hacks would be to re-write adbd ... to properly hook into pam, logind and to actually use a prtoper tty and termcap :P16:34
seb128sil2100, how do I request content-hub from utopic to get into rtm as well?16:35
tedogra_, I actually see it the other way, this script is a replacement for Xsession.d which was better :-)16:35
sil2100seb128: taking care of that! Sorry, been in meetings16:36
seb128sil2100, thanks16:36
tedOkay, lunch time. Going to try to fix after lunch.16:36
ogra_ted, other way round ... UAL and lighdm are replacements for the initial MWC quantal phone session script :)16:36
ogra_ted, let me know if you need me for anythin16:37
ogra_g+16:37
sil2100seb128: do you know if your landing got a silo already? Since the spreadsheet looks a bit strange16:38
cjwatsonslangasek: That's possible too if it's a separate script there; that said I don't know if PES require more agility than that16:38
sil2100Ah16:38
sil2100seb128: ok, I see16:39
sil2100seb128: nvm!16:39
slangasekcjwatson: "agility" in what sense?16:39
seb128sil2100, silo 2516:39
sil2100seb128: yeah, I saw that, but I saw it's migrating already so somehow felt it's not the right thing16:39
cjwatsonslangasek: How frequently they need to make code changes in order to do things for specific customer images16:39
seb128sil2100, why not?16:39
sil2100seb128: brain blockage, no idea why16:40
sil2100seb128: anyway: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-00216:40
seb128sil2100, k ;-)16:40
seb128sil2100, thanks16:40
ogra_cjwatson, slangasek the custom tarballs requires QA signoff in any case ... so agility is definitely ruled by QA person availablility anyway16:40
sil2100seb128: here's your ubuntu-rtm silo with the binaries copied over by CI Train16:40
seb128sil2100, ok, so what do I need to do next to have that approved?16:40
ogra_no matter how many code changes you make at what frequency16:40
cjwatsonogra_: I meant ones other than the default channels16:41
sil2100seb128: you have an ubuntu-rtm phone? If yes, just install and make sure it works on it and set to 'Tested: Yes' and I'll publish it16:41
ogra_well, handling that is still up in the air afaik16:42
* ogra_ guesses you can make up whatever you want here atm16:42
seb128sil2100, thanks16:42
ogra_with later adjustments16:42
seb128sil2100, (yes I've a krillin)16:42
sil2100Excellent16:42
bfillersil2100: could you reconfigure line 27 for me please? still not working when I do it16:45
bfillertoo many MR's16:45
sil2100bfiller: ok, sure16:46
camakosil2100,  If I want to leave a branch that is in a silo out (i.e. not land), do I just delete it from the spreadsheet, and click on 'Reconfigure Silo'?16:47
sil2100camako: yes, but not sure if you won't need a trainguard to do the reconfigure for you16:47
sil2100camako: try removing it and pressing reconfigure, if it doesn't work just ping me16:47
camakosil2100, ok I have a build of another package going (not the one I want to remove), do I need to wait until the build is done?16:48
cwayneogra_: will the default ones with just core-apps require qa signoff?16:48
sil2100camako: hm, is it building in the PPA already?16:49
camakosil2100, yes... it's ok I'll just wait .. almost done..16:49
sil2100camako: if it has been uploaded to the PPA already, you can abort the build job, reconfigure and rebuild16:50
bfillersil2100: also I need silos for line 101 and 102 when you have a chance16:50
sil2100bfiller: ok, only now the reconfigure passed16:52
bfillersil2100: thank you16:53
ogra_cwayne, i ahve no idea16:56
ogra_cwayne, i guess thats a QA decision16:56
ogra_cwayne, but i imagine they would want some testing "in context"16:59
tvosssil2100, ping17:00
sil2100tvoss: pong?17:01
ogra_"advantage tvoss "17:02
ogra_15:017:02
brendandted, we have a few of your silos on the backlog, do you have an order you want them done in?17:02
brendandted, currently silo 005 is top: https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu17:03
brendandralsina_, we see silo 14, you can keep track of it here: https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu17:04
ralsina_thanks brendand!17:04
brendandralsina_, currently we have a bit of a backlog but it should get picked up tomorrow17:04
ralsina_brendand: one note: because the id  of the apps doing the polling has changed, it's easier to test this starting with a clean device17:05
brendandsil2100, do you have 10 minutes to talk about something17:05
ralsina_brendand: that' s perfectly fine, no rush17:05
brendandralsina_, don't worry we always do17:05
ralsina_cool then :-)17:05
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davmor2awe: ^17:11
davmor2tell them not too if you don't want it to land yet17:11
awetrainguards, please don't land ubuntu/landing-011 or ubuntu-rtm/landing-024 ( urfkill, indicator ); some re-testing due to last minute update to urfkill, and indicator-network requires re-test17:15
aweI'm adding a comment to the spreadsheet, and will ping trainguards when all is set to publish17:15
plarssil2100: ok, it looks like the unity8 unlock script is failing quite badly now17:16
plarssil2100: it tells me that it's unlocked, but it's clearly not17:16
sil2100plars: hm, do you know if the 'looping fix' from mterry landed already?17:17
sil2100awe: ok, thanks! barry ^17:17
plarssil2100: still looking into it, and I'm in a meeting now, but this could be the source of the strange system-settings or dropping letters problems17:17
seb128sil2100, I tested content-hub from the rtm ppa on the current rtm device, works fine17:17
sil2100seb128: ok, publishing17:17
plarssil2100: I think it's been there for a few days now on utopic right?17:17
seb128sil2100, thanks17:17
sil2100brendand: sadly, busy right now :< Can we connect tomorrow?17:18
brendandsil2100, ok17:18
awesil2100, added a comment to line 6; also applies to rtm silo as well17:19
awethanks!17:19
barrysil2100, awe ack17:25
aweah, right forgot you were us-lander of the week17:25
awe;D17:25
barryyeah ;)17:26
camakosil2100, the reconfig seemed to work but building a package afterwards I got the following :17:41
camakohttps://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-020-1-build/47/console17:41
camakoat the very end, abt signatures17:41
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balloonsogra_, I pushed a developer mode session for the sprint17:45
ogra_balloons, awesome, thanks !!17:45
balloonsI feel better about what we can do for RTM, and then we can step back and do it better for 2.017:46
balloonsogra_, thank you :-)17:46
ogra_:)17:46
plarssil2100: ok, I don't know that it's necessarily caused by that unlock script change that mterry landed17:49
plarssil2100: more like it's not a complete fix17:49
plarssil2100: there's still a race17:49
mterryplars, more racing!17:49
mterryplars, we retry 5 times, waiting 20s each time17:49
plarsmterry: ah, you're here now! great!17:49
sil2100plars: oh, mterry what did you do!17:49
mterryplars, that's a crazy race17:49
plarssil2100: I'm saying he didn't break it, not that he did :)17:49
sil2100davmor2: so, any news on the bug?17:49
sil2100Ah, ok ;) So you mean the race might be somewhere else?17:50
plarsmterry: so it seems there's a narrow window just before the greeter comes up, where running that dbus call succeeds, but the greeter isn't all the way up17:50
plarsmterry: and when it comes up fully, it's still locked17:50
mterryplars, oh that's annoying17:50
plarsmterry: I was able to reproduce in a really ugly way by hand, just doing adb reboot && adb wait-for-device && adb shell, then running 'gdbus call --session --dest com.canonical.UnityGreeter --object-path / --method com.canonical.UnityGreeter.HideGreeter; echo $?' for a bit until I got 017:51
plarsmterry: but at that point, the greeter came up fully, and was still locked17:51
mterryplars, yeah I could imagine that happening...17:51
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mterryplars, will have to queue up the signals or delay starting the dbus service I guess17:52
mterryplars, is it at least better than it was before?17:52
plarsmterry: well, in ways it feels worse, because we had some very unusual test failures today17:52
plarsmterry: everything looked normal, but the tests seemed to be getting stuck in a loop waiting for things to show up that never did17:53
plarsmterry: when I reproduced by hand, I discovered the test was running but the screen wasn't unlocked17:53
mterryplars, worse...  :(17:53
camakosil2100, the reconfig seemed to work... but building a package afterwards, I am getting errors abt key not being certified and location-service (the one I deleted) being in the ppa... Can you please help?17:54
mterryplars, is there a new bug or shall I re-use the last one?17:57
plarsmterry: I think the last one still describes it pretty well as "racy"17:58
plarsmterry: if you prefer though, I can start a new one17:58
mterryplars, no it's fine17:59
sil2100camako: which silo was that? Let me look at it in a moment18:03
camakosil2100, rtm 2018:03
camakosil2100, thanks... you can see the error in the dashboard also18:04
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jdstrandcan someone assign me a silo for line 98?18:16
* jdstrand added it to the spreadsheet a while ago, but it hasn't popped up yet18:16
tedjdstrand, So do you have any issue with us putting the XDG variables in ~/.profile?18:47
tedjdstrand, Seems like the sanest solution :-/18:47
tedThere's a bunch of different cases here for config.18:48
asacwhat are the official instructions how to enable a silo?18:49
asacbrendand-nexus5: ?18:49
asacbrendand: ?18:49
jdstrandted: no... not per se. I'm curious what this is solving18:49
tedjdstrand, adb shell getting the proper XDG paths. We add a few in the ubuntu-touch-session including things like the custom one.18:50
thomiasac: you should use the citrain tool18:50
thomiasac: from your laptop: citrain device-upgrade <siolo number> <password>18:50
asachappy to , but how?18:50
tedjdstrand, But now that adb is more independent (a good thing) it's not coming from the same environment tree.18:50
brendandasac, citrain tool, but i'm not sure if that's actually written down somewhere18:50
thomierr, that's from memory, but I'm sure it's reasonably accurate18:50
asaci dont know where that tool lives18:50
brendandthomi, that's correct18:50
asaci dont have it installed18:50
brendandasac, phablet-tools-citrain18:51
thomiasac: the package is phablet-tools-citrain18:51
thomiok, I'll be quiet now and let brendand do the tralking :D18:51
thomi*talking18:51
brendandasac, if you're on utopic it's in the archive18:51
jdstrandted: so the idea is to put them in ~/.profile so that bash picks it up when adb is started?18:52
tedjdstrand, Correct, we do that already with GRID_UNIT_PIX, QTWEBKIT_DPR and NATIVE_ORIENTATION.18:52
tedjdstrand, Adding XDG_DATA_DIRS is the plan.18:52
mterryplars, I'm having reliable success with: adb reboot && adb wait-for-device && adb shell 'while ! gdbus call --session --dest com.canonical.UnityGreeter --object-path / --method com.canonical.UnityGreeter.HideGreeter 2>/dev/null 1>&2; do echo -n .; done' && echo -e '\nDid it work?'18:53
jdstrandinteresting18:53
mterryplars, let me confirm I'm on latest code18:53
jdstrandted: curious why not use /etc/profile.d/ ?18:53
tedjdstrand, Seems like all of those should go to somewhere more generic, but don't want to build a system for this fix.18:53
tedjdstrand, I don't think ubuntu-touch-session runs profile.d18:53
tedThough, I guess it could run specific scripts out of there.18:53
* asac runs citrain device-upgrade and watches phone reboot18:55
jdstrandted: I'm not saying you have to. I personally don't have a problem with it, but I have a sneaking suspicion someone else might18:55
plarsmterry: right, so the dbus call will exit with a return code of 0, but did it really unlock? you can't trust the return code if you hit the race condition18:55
plarsmterry: I was on utopic latest on mako when I tested it18:56
tedjdstrand, Well, ogra_ only said I had to ask you :-)18:56
mterryplars, that's what my script tries to test -- it loops until it gets a 0 and then asks if it actually worked -- it always did in my cases18:56
mterryplars, I'm not on latest utopic code, will try again18:57
jdstrandted: I can't come up with a compelling reason not to18:57
plarsmterry: true, I wonder if something landed that opened a window for this to happen in18:58
cwaynefginther: beat you to it after all :) https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/phablet-tools/clickbuddy-with-sessions/+merge/23747719:06
cwaynewait wtf that diffs wrong as hell19:06
kenvandinebrendand: got another bug fix to land, can you tell me if you're ok with calling this an isolated bug fix?  https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/cellular-slot2-online-status-not-persisting-1375832/+merge/23707019:07
mterryplars, yup, that little script reproduces the problem with latest unity8 code.  It doesn't seem due to my previous unlock-device script change, just coincidence.  Will have to investigate why something changed19:08
mterrywill add a comment to bug19:08
tedrsalveti, Could you look at this MR? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/ubuntu-touch-session/xdg-to-profiles/+merge/23747619:11
jdstrandbarry: hi! can I have an rtm silo for apparmor, line 98?19:11
tedrsalveti, Would like to fix the clock tests.19:11
barryjdstrand: sure!19:11
rsalvetited: sure19:12
jdstrand\o/19:12
tedrsalveti, Thanks!19:12
camakosil2100, I know you're busy.. I hope you haven't forgotten about me :-)... I 'm done testing the silo and all I need is proper reconfig before I can send it to QA signoff19:13
plarsmterry: thanks19:13
sil2100camako: yeah, sorry, a lot on my head - let me look at it now19:17
rsalvetited: do we have any specific bug opened for this MR?19:23
rsalvetijust so we can add and get them closed automatically19:23
tedrsalveti, Not that I know of.19:23
rsalvetited: alright19:23
tedrsalveti, I think that people probably saw test failures they couldn't figure out, and this is the cause, but I'm not sure of the bugs.19:24
rsalvetited: yeah, makes sense19:24
rsalvetited: happroved19:25
tedrsalveti, Let's fix it and pretend they're crazy if they bring it up :-)19:25
tedrsalveti, Cool, thanks. Do we need a silo for that? Or how is touch-session done?19:25
rsalvetited: yeah, via silo19:25
tedK, I'll get that one.19:25
brendandkenvandine, yeah sounds fine19:26
kenvandinebrendand: thx!19:26
tedbarry, Can I get a silo for line 105 please?19:28
barryted: yeppers19:30
tedbarry, And 99 please19:30
barryted: please ack the dupe: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/prepare-silo/2606/console19:31
sil2100camako: should be ok now19:33
camakosil2100, thanks19:33
tedbarry, Yes that's fine.19:33
* ted got confused and was looking at the rtm silos19:33
tedbarry, Thanks!19:35
sil2100davmor2: any other blockers found?19:43
sil2100davmor2: how does the situation look like?19:43
davmor2sil2100: so alarm went off 2 minutes late if the device isn't connected to the usb lead by the look of it19:44
thostr_can I get a silo for line 90?19:44
sil2100oh?19:44
sil2100I remember seeing it off anyway before19:44
* sil2100 remembers ogra_ having harps late into the meeting19:45
davmor2sil2100: indeed and not the end of the world as it goes off19:45
davmor2sil2100: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mw46QHRVqmaf_NSL2L-jNcEYNlQzbcsJyaXvhjSgSSY/edit#gid=478828577  make of it what you will :)19:52
sil2100;)19:52
davmor2sil2100: photos taken in camera still are not right in the scope but show correctly in backdrops now, alarm didn't go off at the right time but did go off, issues with the new media controller in the sound indicator and my issue with 3g19:54
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davmor2sil2100: so number 1 is a partial fix but not perfect so we can whitelist that and the other three I think are already in last promoted so are safe-ish19:58
sil2100Ok, I checked the document as well and I think we'll risk it today20:00
sil2100ogra_: you still there?20:00
davmor2sil2100: I concur jibel one image promotion coming your way \o/20:00
davmor2ogra_: oh come on we all know you are still online really you must be your nick is here ;)20:06
sil2100ogra_: anyway, once you're around give us a sign! We need an image to promote!20:19
sil2100I mean20:19
sil2100We need to promote an image!20:19
sil2100(order of words sometimes is important)20:20
brendandcamako, silo 20 is currently 9th in our queue, we see it but the ETA is likely to be no earlier than EOD tomorrow at this point20:20
brendandcamako, and that's being ambitious. i'll update you tomorrow, but in the meantime have a look at our trello board: https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu20:21
tedbarry, Can I get a silo for line 106 please?20:21
brendandcamako, if you need to escalate it just let me know20:21
tedbarry, And can you publish silo ubuntu/19 ?20:21
brendandbfiller, silo 3 is 10th in our queue, so it might not get seen to until EOD tomorrow or even into thursday. if this is a problem let me know20:22
sil2100ted, barry: handling that20:22
brendandbfiller, i'm sure you're aware of the trello board already? https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu20:22
sil2100elopio: hi!20:23
barrysil2100: thanks20:24
camakobrendand, ok I'm good with that20:24
tedsil2100, Thanks!20:24
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tedToyKeeper, rtm/9 should fix the clock issue if you want to look at that at the same time.20:58
ToyKeeperted: Awesome.  I'm going to try to get things in oldest-first order for now though.  :)20:59
ToyKeeperted: Any ideas how to fix the indicator-messages test plan?  It doesn't really test anything other than that it's visible.21:01
ToyKeeperted: Or, is that all covered in AP testing?21:01
tedToyKeeper, Well it needs love, the problem is too many projects and not enough devs, trying to add tests when we implement features.21:03
ToyKeeperFair enough.21:03
kenvandineted, preach it brother!21:04
tedkenvandine, Heh, you're only like 1:5 ;-)21:05
kenvandine:)21:05
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sil2100rsalveti: hey! :)21:06
rsalvetisil2100: hey21:06
sil2100rsalveti: sorry to bother again, but it seems that poor ogra_ is not around anymore - do you have all the tools and power to promote images to the ubuntu-rtm/14.09 channel?21:08
rsalvetisil2100: haha, never did that21:08
rsalvetimight be able to try, if you're fine with the risks21:09
rsalvetisil2100: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8517194/21:10
rsalvetithat's probably how it was done21:10
elopiosil2100: hello21:11
sil2100rsalveti: hah, most probably!21:16
sil2100rsalveti: if you're sure that's how it is then we would appreciate promoting the latest krillin image (#88), mako and maybe emulator as well21:17
sil2100rsalveti: from what I know ogra_ was rewriting the image number always21:17
sil2100rsalveti: so those should be image #4 I guess21:17
sil2100ogra_: ^21:17
sil2100elopio: let me get back to you in a moment!21:17
rsalvetisil2100: problem is that I'm not really sure21:17
rsalvetisil2100: guess it might just be better to wait for ogra_21:18
sil2100rsalveti: ok then, ogra_ will pop up sooner or later I guess21:18
sil2100rsalveti: anyway, thanks for looking into that21:19
rsalvetino worries, sorry for not being able to help21:19
sil2100elopio: ok, so two things!21:23
sil2100elopio: first thing: any news on the issue with gallery and calculator AP test failures on utopic?21:25
elopiosil2100: I haven't had time to patch them again. I'm doing manual testing.21:32
elopiothe calculator has a clear bug reported. The gallery is more confusing, but probably it's the same cause of the tmp HOME.21:32
ogra_sil2100, oh, just saw the mail21:39
ogra_rsalveti, next time just see /home/ogra/rtm-promo.log ... i just run the commands in there as cdimage user on nusakan ... (no bzr or anything involved)21:48
rsalvetiogra_: alright, noted21:48
sil2100ogra_: \o/ :)21:53
ogra_sil2100, i assume someone boot checked the emulator, right ?21:53
sil2100elopio: ok, then the last thing (although not really that important due to a lot of other stuff):21:53
sil2100elopio: if by some accident you find some time today, coould you take a look at the autopilot infinite-hang problem in utopic images we had today? plars has some details there21:54
sil2100ogra_: erm21:54
elopiosil2100: is that while running toolkit tests?21:54
cwayneogra_: is it possible to also 'promote' 14.09.es-proposed to 14.09.es21:55
sil2100elopio: it seems random, once I heard it happened in ubuntu-system-settings tests, but I think plars said something about dropping letters21:55
ogra_cwayne, which image and did QA sign that off ?21:55
robotfuelsil2100: plars was the ui hung?21:56
sil2100ogra_: ok, so maybe let's wait with promoting the emulator21:56
ogra_sil2100, hrm21:56
sil2100robotfuel: it's hard to say, since we only saw it on the logs...21:56
ogra_sil2100, it is in the middle of processing21:56
sil2100ogra_: ...then nevermind ;)21:56
ogra_not sure what happens if i ctrl-C that21:56
cwayneogra_: whichever corresponds to what we're promoting elsewhere, and no, it's the same exact custom tarball as krillin rtm, but sets the default language in the wizard to spanish21:57
elopiosil2100: unlikely to have time, because I have to scroll down to see all the silos in the queue. But tomorrow.21:57
sil2100ogra_: it's just that we didn't check if the emulator boots, but I suppose *someone* would tell us if it was different21:57
ogra_cwayne, well, i just promoted krillin 88 ... the es channel is far from that number :)21:57
ogra_sil2100, sure, but we should really check that before next time21:58
robotfuelelopio: plars it might be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/137733221:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1377332 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "UI randomly freezes" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:59
elopiorobotfuel: yes, that's likely to cause an infinite loop when dragging.21:59
cwayneogra_: ha, fair point22:00
ogra_cwayne, i assume you want 1122:00
cwayneogra_: yea, that's latest?22:00
ogra_http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09.es-proposed/krillin/22:01
ogra_looks like to me22:01
ogra_cwayne, you got image #1 in 14.09.es22:02
cwayneogra_: thanks man22:02
sil2100robotfuel, elopio: ok, this sounds like a possible suspect then22:03
ogra_=== Image 88 Promoted ===22:03
* popey blinks22:04
ogra_(that is: krillin 88, mako 75 and both emulatorrs 71)22:04
ogra_and introducing for the first time image ... krillin 11 as the famous 14.09.es #1 !22:05
cwaynelol22:05
* ogra_ vanishes back into the night 22:05
ogra_:)22:05
ogra_err22:06
ogra_that meant indeed22:06
ogra_=== Image 4 Promoted ===22:06
ogra_sorry :P22:06
sil2100\o/22:07
sil2100Damn, ok, I think this is the right time to EOD22:08
sil2100o/22:08
plarsrobotfuel: elopio: we think we found another race with the unity8 screen unlock22:24
plarsthat could be causing the failures we saw earlier22:24
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