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[06:22] <pitti> Bonjour tout le monde
[06:23] <larsu> hi pitti!
[06:29] <seb128> hey pitti, wie gehts?
[06:29] <seb128> hey larsu
[06:29] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[06:31] <pitti> bonjour seb128, hey larsu
[06:32] <pitti> seb128: je suis fatigué -- J'ai travaillé tard dans la nuit; mais sinon d'accord; et toi ?
[06:33] <seb128> pitti, je suis en forme, je ne travaillais pas hier !
[06:33] <seb128> pitti, tu as travaillé sur quoi aussi tard ?
[06:33] <pitti> seb128: I just went through my backup and noticed that gnome-terminal is the only thing on my box that still uses gconf; is there a reason why we are stuck with the 3.6 version, or did we just not get around to upgrading?
[06:34] <seb128> pitti, check with larsu & Laney for the details, I didn't follow those
[06:34] <seb128> but I think it was blocked on some bash changes that are needed
[06:34] <seb128> like new behaviour of env for new tabs or something upstream
[06:34] <seb128> which requires to parse files differently on disk
[06:35] <seb128> Laney has been talking to doko about that a few times but I think it's still unresolved
[06:35] <pitti> Debian and Ubuntu have the same bash, and Debian has g-t 3.14
[06:35] <seb128> well, maybe they didn't consider the bug has being a blocker for the upgrade
[06:35] <pitti> ah, ok; I'll ask Laney when he comes in
[06:35] <seb128> or maybe they found another way to workaround it
[06:35] <seb128> yeah, that's best
[06:36] <seb128> pitti, do you know if anyone debugged the idle/lock screen issue yesterday?
[06:36]  * seb128 reads IRC logs
[06:36] <larsu> there were two issues: transparency and the stay-in-the-same-dir-when-opening-a-new-tab thing
[06:36] <larsu> rishi and I shared a patch for transparency
[06:36] <larsu> and we were waiting on some bash fixes for the second one
[06:36] <seb128> so the blocker was the same-dir-new-tab right, which depends on bash?
[06:37] <pitti> seb128: yes, Laney and darkxst discussed it quite extensively, and they mostly found out what the issue was
[06:37] <seb128> pitti, great
[06:37] <larsu> seb128: yes. Laney was waiting for someone who promised to fix it
[06:41] <darkxst> bug 1132700
[06:41] <ubot5> bug 1132700 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal requires sourcing of vte.sh login script" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1132700
[06:41] <darkxst> seb128, I am working on the idle screen bug
[06:41] <seb128> darkxst, hey, thank you
[06:42] <pitti> eh, changing $PS1 for this? well, it's not an important feature, so not a biggie
[06:43] <pitti> I just wonder why libvte doesn't just set the current dir by itself when calling bash, instead of relying on hacking $PS1
[06:43] <larsu> not an important feature?
[06:44] <darkxst> pitti, everything is done by escape codes now (well things like settings titles etc)
[06:45] <pitti> larsu: well, it's practically impossible to change $PS1 on any upgrade/install with an existing home dir
[06:45] <pitti> i. e. most people will not get the changed $PS1
[06:45] <larsu> right, but it's also practically impossible to have a terminal that doesn't keep the same dir when opening a new window
[06:45] <larsu> unless you want to triage bugs for that ;)
[06:46] <pitti> and given that you can just start bash -i in the dir you want, it seems rather pointless to require this complicated shell/escape code hackery
[06:46] <larsu> maybe this is why we haven't upgraded yet :P
[06:46] <pitti> well, keeping the same dir is sometimes useful and more often confusing, at least to me
[06:47] <larsu> pitti: I agree. Do we have an upstream bug with the rationale?
[06:47] <pitti> but yeah, perhaps this craziness should be reverted then
[06:47] <pitti> larsu: it at least would be a good explanation why g-t is stuck :)
[06:47] <pitti> larsu: haven't looked yet, I just discovered this right now
[06:48] <larsu> pitti: me too. I thought it was just a matter of someone pushing a patch somewhere
[06:52] <pitti> larsu: I think that upstream bug is good enough
[06:52] <pitti> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697475
[06:52] <ubot5> Gnome bug 697475 in general "New tab is not opened in same directory as previous tab" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[06:54] <larsu> pitti: thanks. Alas it doesn't give a rationale (and neither does the NEWS entry for 3.7.0)
[06:58] <pitti> I followed up to the gnome and ubuntu bug /me shakes head
[07:01] <larsu> thanks
[07:01] <larsu> this is indeed quite insane
[07:06] <larsu> pitti: some rationale and bug links in the commit https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-terminal/commit/?id=cf3cad8764d770c24a180fd86e2b2375fe62b9be
[07:08] <pitti> larsu: oh, so this is about *getting* the cwd, not setting it
[07:09] <pitti> *shrug*, the /proc/pid/cwd is just fine
[08:04] <Laney> hello
[08:05] <Laney> are you trying to rework gnome-terminal? :)
[08:10] <Laney> [ubuntu-rtm/14.09] glib2.0 2.41.5-1 (Accepted)
[08:10] <Laney> !!!!
[08:10] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:10] <seb128> how are you?
[08:10] <seb128> glib in rtm? nice!
[08:11] <Laney> I did originally think it would be good to have the stable version in there
[08:11] <Laney> but, you know, ...
[08:12] <Laney> I'm good thanks ;-)
[08:12] <Laney> pub quiz tonight!
[08:12] <Laney> how was your day off?
[08:12] <seb128> it was good thanks
[08:13] <seb128> though mostly spent doing house-cleaning and useful things (with some swimming in between)
[08:13] <seb128> how was monday around there?
[08:13] <seb128> thanks for doing the shotwell update btw, I had that on my todolist (good that I checked the queue before doing it this morning ;-)
[08:14] <larsu> morning Laney!
[08:14] <larsu> new gnome-terminal would be nice indeed, but we're still blocked on that PS1 thing
[08:22] <Laney> you don't use PS1 any more - the script now uses bash PROMPT_COMMAND
[08:22] <Laney> https://git.gnome.org/browse/vte/commit/src/vte.sh?id=b307d45e8b2dd27a3881852c29f4a6f0443d5348
[08:23] <larsu> I still agree with pitti that this shouldn't be necessary
[08:29] <Laney> They're trying to make OSC7 a standard way of communicating the working directory
[08:29] <larsu> osc7?
[08:31] <Laney> escape code
[08:31] <Laney> The objection that doko had was that you shouldn't use PROMPT_COMMAND because the user might have set this and you'd clobber it then, so bash should get the ability to have an array of these functions like zsh has
[08:32] <larsu> thanks for the insight. quite a yak
[08:34] <pitti> larsu, Laney, seb128: I just followed up again to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697475
[08:34] <ubot5> Gnome bug 697475 in general "New tab is not opened in same directory as previous tab" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[08:34] <pitti> larsu, Laney, seb128: given upstream's hard stanza on doing the (IMHO) utterly wrong thing, I think we should just patch this back to reading /proc
[08:35] <seb128> +1 from me
[08:35] <pitti> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-terminal/commit/?id=cf3cad8764d770c24a180fd86e2b2375fe62b9be isn't too hard to revert
[08:35] <larsu> +1 from me as well. thanks!
[08:35] <pitti> i. e. short-circuit the env var crap and putting back cwd_of_pid()
[08:35] <pitti> . o O { In what world is reading /proc considered "dirty" and "hackish" ??? }
[08:38] <pitti> so, certainly too late for utopic, but first thing in v?
[08:41] <pitti> darkxst: ^ is that ok for you?
[08:41] <pitti> darkxst: oh, I figure we should perhaps already do this for the ubuntu-gnome PPA?
[08:41] <pitti> darkxst: I'm currently stuck in some things, but I'm happy to look into that next week?
[08:47] <Laney> Seems fine to me if it works, I was going to fix it in the dokoish way and then have it sourced from some system directory
[09:00] <darkxst> pitti, Laney sure that sounds fine
[09:03] <pitti> I really don't like messing with user config shell scripts like ~/.bashrc, that's a can of worms
[09:05] <darkxst> pitti, yeh, and fedora source profile.d for all shells, so upstream consider it a non-problem
[09:06] <pitti> darkxst: so do we
[09:06] <pitti> but that doesn't help
[09:06] <pitti> as ~/.bashrc usually overwrites PS1 and often also others
[09:06] <pitti> see /etc/skel/.bashrc
[09:07] <darkxst> pitti, ah ok
[09:07] <Laney> It'd be put in a .d directory
[09:07] <Laney> but overwriting PROMPT_COMMAND is indeed the problem
[09:08] <pitti> Laney: still, .d/ is usually evaluated *before* reading ~/.bashrc
[09:08] <pitti> otherwise you could never change defaults as a user
[09:08] <pitti> unless you were planning to introduce an new /etc/profile-force.d/
[09:08] <pitti> but eek, no; let's not mess with bash config files, you can only lose
[09:08] <darkxst> right, terminal ships /etc/profile.d/vte.sh, but its never worked on ubuntu
[09:09] <Laney> Don't understand, sorry
[09:09] <darkxst> pitti, ok, I'm fine with that
[09:09] <Laney> Are you worried about overwriting user config or the config not being effective because the user set it themselves?
[09:09] <pitti> Laney: I mean, you can set variables in /etc/profile.d/ all you want, if your ~/.bashrc is setting them that one will win
[09:10] <pitti> Laney: initially I thought we are speaking about PS1, and /etc/skel/.bashrc (IOW, *every* user's ~/.bashrc) is overwriting that)
[09:10] <pitti> Laney: PROMPT_COMMAND isn't set in /etc/skel, but it's also commonly set in .bashrc
[09:10] <pitti> it's in mine, not sure why (I might have done it ages ago to fix gnome-terminal tab titles from a blog post, or perhaps it was in an older /etc/skel)
[09:12] <Laney> we agreed with those reasons which is why we haven't done it in Ubuntu yet
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[09:44] <Laney> darkxst: you making progress?
[09:44] <Laney> are you trying to put it into usd?
[09:45] <darkxst> laney ppa:darkxst/libusd
[09:45] <darkxst> there is an occasional hash table crash though
[09:45] <darkxst> but the idle timers work fine
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[09:47] <Laney> cool
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[11:01] <darkxst> Laney, seb128 can you test ~u2 once its built on ppa:darkxst/libusd
[11:01] <Laney> ok
[11:01] <Laney> thanks for working on it
[11:02] <darkxst> Laney, np, it was mostly cut+paste from my previous displayconfig daemon
[11:03] <darkxst> if it works well will clean it up and make a MP tomorrow sometime
[11:03] <Mirv> seb128: FYI the qtchooser for the unity8 desktop preview is in utopic unapproved queue currently
[11:04] <Laney> darkxst: failed to build on symbol errors
[11:04] <Mirv> also, welcome back seb!
[11:06] <darkxst> Laney, oh oops, I am tired, forget to copy that from my dev branch
[11:24] <darkxst> Laney, will be fixed now
[11:24] <Laney> cool
[11:26] <darkxst> or not
[11:26] <seb128> Mirv, great, thanks
[11:45] <darkxst> Laney, ok just pushed my noisy dev branch just don't look at stdout ;0
[11:46]  * darkxst sleeps now
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[12:01] <davmor2> tseliot: hey dude is utopic actually suspending for you?
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[13:04] <tseliot> davmor2: what kind of hardware are we talking about?
[13:04] <davmor2> tseliot: Laptop with nvidia prime
[13:11] <tseliot> davmor2: I'm pretty sure it works correctly here. What happens on your system?
[13:12] <davmor2> tseliot: it just never seems to suspend
[13:14] <tseliot> davmor2: can you reproduce the problem if you uninstall nvidia (--purge remove) and reboot?
[13:14] <davmor2> tseliot: I'll try it out after need it right now :)
[13:14] <tseliot> ok
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[14:11] <GunnarHj> seb128: The new translatable strings due to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.12.2-0ubuntu10 seem not to have made it to the translation template. Shouldn't it be updated automatically at upload, or do you need to take some additional step?
[14:13] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, it's on my list, it imports the template at build time
[14:14] <GunnarHj> seb128: Wrong template this time...
[14:14] <seb128> GunnarHj, no, no template, dh_translation fails to generate one according to the log
[14:15] <seb128> I'm looking to it in a bit, don't worry
[14:15] <GunnarHj> seb128: I see. Thanks!
[14:15] <seb128> yw!
[14:22] <seb128> dpm, should rtm translations issues be tagged in a special way? I've opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gallery-app/+bug/1378384 ... not sure if you can confirm it?
[14:22] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1378384 in gallery-app (Ubuntu) "The pick mode title/options show untranslated" [Undecided,New]
[14:30] <dpm> seb128, I generally add a task for the ubuntu-translations project and tag it as 'touch' to keep them all together. However, the best thing to do to ensure it's tracked for rtm is to add the 'rtm14' tag
[14:30] <dpm> I think I saw that too, let me check to confirm
[14:31] <seb128> thanks
[14:35] <dpm> seb128, confirmed and added a comment
[14:36] <seb128> dpm, thanks
[14:36] <seb128> dpm, the "translated" version is from normal gallery mode
[14:36] <seb128> it becomes untranslated when it switches to picker mode
[14:37] <dpm> ah, I see
[14:38] <dpm> seb128, perhaps it needs a task for content hub too?
[14:38] <seb128> dpm, no, it happens without the content-hub
[14:38] <dpm> ah, ok
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[14:38] <seb128> it's gallery changing itself in picker mode on a dbus signal
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[15:17] <dgadomski> hello everyone
[15:19] <dgadomski> Trevinho: thanks for reviewing my fix for bug 1125442
[15:19] <ubot5> bug 1125442 in Compiz 0.9.11 "Always Visible and On Top Windows Steal Focus on Workspace Switch" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1125442
[15:19] <Trevinho> dgadomski: yw ;)
[15:19] <Trevinho> dgadomski: thank you for your contribution
[15:19] <dgadomski> is there anything needed to be done to have it merged? I wanted to backport it for trusty after it hits the main branch
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[15:30] <seb128> hey hey hey
[15:30] <seb128> it's meeting time!
[15:31] <larsu> \o/
[15:32] <desrt> mmmmmmmmeeting
[15:32] <desrt> seb128: welcome back.  we missed you :)
[15:32] <desrt> #readysetgo
[15:32] <seb128> qengho, Sweetshark, Laney, tkamppeter, desrt, attente_, larsu, FJKong, happyaron, hey ;-)
[15:32] <seb128> desrt, thanks :-)
[15:32] <qengho> Hi hi.
[15:33] <seb128> guess times change, we have a bot now :p
[15:33] <seb128> #startmeeting
[15:33] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct  7 15:33:14 2014 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:33] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:33] <seb128> ok, let's get started
[15:33] <seb128> I'm using the old order :p
[15:33]  * qengho sighs.
[15:33] <qengho> * in-progress: chromium-browser, experimental video hardware-accel patch.
[15:33] <qengho> * in-progress: Cr-b, more Wayland/Mir/X11 work.
[15:33] <qengho> * to-do: Cr-b translations from LP again, maybe.
[15:33] <qengho> EO
[15:33] <seb128> #topic qengho
[15:34] <qengho> EOF
[15:34] <seb128> lol
[15:34] <seb128> that's a fail I guess ;-)
[15:34] <desrt> the joy of meetingbots
[15:34] <seb128> yeah
[15:34] <seb128> qengho, thanks
[15:34] <seb128> #topic Sweetshark
[15:35] <seb128> Sweetshark, your turn ;-)
[15:35] <seb128> no Sweetshark this week?
[15:35] <qengho> 2 wins so far.
[15:36] <desrt> seb128's meeting chair skills are getting rusty
[15:36] <Sweetshark> .
[15:36] <seb128> oh, Sweetshark
[15:36] <seb128> Sweetshark, you need to buy a watch or phone or a computer able to do reminders ;-)
[15:36] <Sweetshark> just not much to report: fixed the upstream python integrationtesting
[15:36] <Sweetshark> EOF
[15:36] <czajkowski> seb128: if only there was some tool on a desktop to do that :)
[15:36] <seb128> czajkowski, yes, that would be good!
[15:37] <seb128> Sweetshark, thanks
[15:37] <Sweetshark> seb128: redmine doesnt help when I need to fetch the door
[15:37] <seb128> Sweetshark, drop an IRC note before getting up ;-)
[15:37] <seb128> anyway
[15:37] <seb128> Sweetshark, thanks
[15:37] <ogra_> dont get an ubuntu phone though. it has no calendar
[15:37] <seb128> #topic Laney
[15:37] <seb128> Laney, your turn
[15:37]  * Laney ponders trolling and staying silent
[15:37] <seb128> Laney, try me!
[15:38] <Laney> :-)
[15:38] <Laney> Good Guy Laney™
[15:38] <Laney> • Hunted down and fixed Unity bug where some keys media keys weren't functioning
[15:38] <seb128> ;-)
[15:38] <Laney> • Last rebuilds / fixes for gnome-desktop 3.12
[15:38] <Laney> ∘ Auto screen locking / blanking isn't working any more - poke Tim for a fix (proposed u-s-d is buggy; been debugging that a bit)
[15:38] <Laney> • Fix evolution-ews hang bug
[15:38] <Laney> • Cherry-pick glib property deprecation warning silence patch
[15:38] <Laney> • Cherry-pick gtk threading hang workaround
[15:38] <Laney> • Enjoy myself getting glib into the rtm distribution, done now
[15:38] <Laney> • New shotwell release
[15:38] <Laney> • Poke at respecting Zeitgeist blacklist in U7 lenses, quite involved - too much work for Utopic
[15:38] <Laney> • Much queue and FFe review
[15:38] <Laney> • Started working on webkit update
[15:38] <Laney> • Working with some guys helping to upstream a gst-base fix, upstream didn't like it but apparently we have to upload it to Ubuntu anyway ...
[15:38] <Laney> ☕
[15:39] <seb128> is that tea or coffee? ;-)
[15:39] <seb128> Laney, did you cherry pick the gtk fix for gtk2 as well?
[15:39] <Laney> it's mulled wine
[15:39] <Laney> and nope
[15:40] <seb128> do you plan to?
[15:40] <Laney> didn't
[15:40] <Laney> could I guess
[15:40] <seb128> (hum, mulled wine, interesting)
[15:40] <Laney> did upstream apply it there?
[15:40] <seb128> that would be nice
[15:40] <seb128> one of the bugs I listed the other day mentioned issues with gtk2 apps
[15:41] <seb128> that included some closed source software people use
[15:41] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:41] <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
[15:41] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released 1.0.60 upstream and in Utopic, to not confuse the page description language "PCLm" with "PCL". The former is a proprietary, PDF-based raster format and has nothing to do with PCL. Also use the correct CMD:PWGRaster; entry in the device ID in the PWG Raster PPD file.
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - Tested the "HP 1200w Mobile Printing Accy" WiFi adapter for printing with mobile devices on HP laser printers, especially for deeper understanding of Mopria (http://www.mopria.org/). Printing works perfectly from Android (with Mopria print plugin from Googfle Play store) and iOS devices, but not from Ubuntu, as it uses the proprietary PCLm format and not IPP Everywhere.
[15:41] <tkamppeter> -cups-filters: Further investigations on support for PDF printers induced by a thread about hardware copies on OpenPrinting mailing list. Added new cupsFilter2 keyword to the PPDs of cups-filters, to make IPP backend pass on IPP attributes to the printer.
[15:41] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[15:42] <Laney> ah, they did push it to gtk2 already
[15:42] <Laney> neat
[15:42] <seb128> yeah
[15:42] <seb128> tkamppeter, thanks
[15:43] <seb128> #topic desrt
[15:43] <desrt> EOF
[15:43] <seb128> desrt, hey :-)
[15:43] <desrt> oh.  hi.
[15:43] <seb128> desrt, you are officially recorded are having slacked this week :p
[15:43] <seb128> next!
[15:43] <seb128> ;-)
[15:43] <desrt> if you insist :)
[15:43] <seb128> lol
[15:43] <seb128> no, please go ahead ;-)
[15:43] <desrt> otherwise, i looked into the desktop file stuff for aliasing and got a couple of viable solutions.  it seems that this doesn't make a whole lot of sense upstream, though, or in specs, so we should probably talk about what to do there
[15:44] <desrt> also started looking at early landing of features for this glib cycle: first up are glistmodel (which attente and i have been looking at the past couple of days) plus the new streaming xml parser
[15:44] <seb128> k, that's going to be a good topic for DC
[15:44] <desrt> and bugs
[15:44] <desrt> (real)EOF
[15:44] <seb128> desrt, thanks
[15:44] <seb128> #topic attente_
[15:45] <seb128> attente_, hey, not sure if you are fully back or not yet?
[15:45] <attente_> seb128: i was discharged from the hospital late last week
[15:45] <seb128> that's great news!
[15:46] <seb128> welcome back
[15:46] <seb128> :-)
[15:46] <attente_> thanks, but i don't have anything to report :(
[15:46] <seb128> no worry
[15:46] <desrt>  "dealt with HR"
[15:46] <desrt> quite an effort :)
[15:46] <seb128> get better, nice to have you back!
[15:47] <seb128> so I guess it's larsu's turn
[15:47] <seb128> #topic larsu
[15:47] <attente_> seb128: thanks!
[15:47] <seb128> larsu, hey
[15:47] <larsu> - short week because of a holiday
[15:47] <larsu> - some last touches on uitk icon stuff - it finally landed
[15:47] <larsu> - translation fixes in about dialog patch in gtk
[15:47] <larsu> - fix scrolling volume the sliders when balance is not centered
[15:47] <larsu> - some theming fixes for gedit and gnome-system-monitor
[15:47] <larsu> - started fixing more wide-dialog problems in various apps (thanks for pointing those out seb128!)
[15:47] <larsu> - some indicator-sound and messages bug triage
[15:47] <larsu> - started investigating inconsistent slider behavior when scrolling (upstream is interested but might conflict with gesture work in 3.14)
[15:47] <larsu> - investigated and remote-debugged an issue where indicator-network and unity8 weren't agreeing on whether airplane mode was on
[15:47] <larsu> </larsu>
[15:48] <seb128> larsu, thanks!
[15:48] <seb128> #topic FJKong
[15:48] <seb128> FJKong, hey, not sure if you are still around?
[15:49] <seb128> guess not
[15:49] <seb128> happyaron, what about you?
[15:49] <seb128> guess not either
[15:50] <seb128> #topic robert_ancell
[15:50] <seb128> Worked on:
[15:50] <seb128> - Uploaded LightDM 1.10.2 SRU
[15:50] <seb128> - Bug triage, fixing, sponsoring
[15:50] <seb128> Currently working on:
[15:50] <seb128> - Bug fixing for utopic release
[15:50] <seb128> Not blocked on anything.
[15:50] <seb128>  
[15:50] <seb128> #topic TheMuso
[15:50] <seb128> * Performed tests to make sure there are no show stopper accessibility bugs in the utopic install.
[15:50] <seb128> * More upstream work on Speech Dispatcher, mapping out requirements needed to support a TTS service use case for the phone.
[15:50] <seb128>  
[15:50] <seb128> ok, then my turn I guess :-)
[15:50] <seb128> #topic seb128
[15:50] <seb128> (one day off)
[15:50] <seb128> • gnome-desktop transition testing
[15:50] <seb128> • debugged evolution-data-server/evolution not having correct translations/domain for langpacks in utopic
[15:50] <seb128> • looked at content-hub and uitk translations issues on the rtm image
[15:50] <seb128> • backported some desktop bugfixes (gtk+2, e-d-s)
[15:50] <seb128> • ubuntu-system-settings for touch
[15:50] <seb128> ∘ some bug triage and reviews
[15:50] <seb128> • some sponsoring
[15:50] <seb128> • usual share of bugs triaging and desktop discussions
[15:51] <seb128>  
[15:51] <seb128> #topic other topics?
[15:51] <seb128> letting people some time to read those
[15:51]  * Laney stares at happyaron 
[15:51] <seb128> then if anyone has another topic to discuss
[15:51] <Laney> you never uploaded fcitx after cancelling my NMU
[15:51] <Laney> which would have been uploaded by now
[15:51] <desrt> DD: Debian Drama
[15:52] <Laney> well, I fixed a problem and he removed my fix then left it broken
[15:52] <Laney> ...
[15:52] <seb128> is that a fix we need for utopic?
[15:52] <Laney> no
[15:53] <seb128> k, at least no problem from that side then
[15:53] <seb128> still not nice though
[15:55] <attente_> seb128: do you have any bugs that i could take a look at?
[15:56] <seb128> attente_, not really, I need to spend some time on launchpad, I was sort of discussing that with robert_ancell via email
[15:57] <seb128> we didn't change much this cycle so we don't have lot of new issues over the LTS, it doesn't mean we don't have things we could work on though...
[15:57] <seb128> Laney, do you have things in mind that need to be looked at?
[15:58] <seb128> I guess we can discuss that off meeting and that there is no other topic
[15:59] <seb128> so let's call it a wrap then
[15:59] <seb128> #endmeeting
[15:59] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct  7 15:59:08 2014 UTC.
[15:59] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2014/ubuntu-desktop.2014-10-07-15.33.moin.txt
[15:59] <Laney> seb128: umm, not immediately
[16:00] <seb128> attente_, indicators could use some bug triaging if you fancy doing that, you can maybe find some bugs that seem worth fixing if you do that
[16:00] <attente_> Laney: oh, if you have a chance, can you test out this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-control-center/non-gnome-unity-ibus-support
[16:00] <Laney> I think I did and it didn't fix it
[16:00] <Laney> will check again
[16:01] <Laney> might be easier to poke that in person because I forgot the details
[16:01] <attente_> Laney: oh. i guess if you can send me your xmonad config i can try it
[16:01] <Laney> it should work if you use use gnome-panel
[16:01] <Laney> and metacity
[16:01] <Laney> where work is not work ...
[16:02] <Laney> you might have to start u-s-d yourself if you get g-s-d
[16:03] <attente_> ok, i'll try it now
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[18:44] <seb128> dpm, pitti, content-hub's template/translations are in utopic&rtm now, do we need to do anything to have those exported in langpacks for touch on next refresh?
[18:45] <kenvandine> yay :)
[18:47]  * dpm looks
[18:49] <dpm> seb128, no, that should be it afaik. The next export should contain those translations for langpack-o-matic to fetch and package them up
[18:49] <seb128> dpm, how does langpack-o-matic know what domains to include?
[18:51] <dpm> seb128, it adds anything that gets from the export, but then it does further filtering. I.e. there is a "Include this template's translations in language packs" checkbox in LP, and that determines what's in the export. Actually, I should set the template's priority, yes
[18:52] <seb128> so it's ranked high and the translators get to it as an important one?
[18:55] <dpm> seb128, yes. And I think we might have added some filtering to langpack-o-matic to filter out anything with priorities lower than 100, but I'd need pitti to confirm on that
[18:58] <seb128> dpm, ok, thanks
[18:58] <dpm> actually kenvandine, do you think you could do me a favour? It's not required for translations to be shipped in the source package, but it helps me with creating translations stats and pointing translators to all the projects to translate for the phone. Would you mind going to https://translations.launchpad.net/content-hub/trunk/+translations-settings and on the "Choose target branch" link, set the exports branch to "~phablet-team/content-hub/trunk" ?
[18:59] <dpm> They will then appear in http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic
[19:00] <kenvandine> dpm, sure
[19:01] <dpm> awesome, thanks
[19:03] <kenvandine> dpm, done
[19:04] <dpm> great, thanks kenvandine!
[19:05] <kenvandine> np
[19:35] <happyaron> seb128: hey I'm on holiday..
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[22:26] <maddawgEOL> i just scored an awesome temp job for $60 an hour
[22:26] <maddawgEOL> + $100 a day in travel expenses
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[22:32] <desrt> maddawgEOL: i'm definitely highly interested.  please tell me more.
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[22:33] <attente_> maddawgEOL: i too am very interested
[22:34] <maddawgEOL> and they called me to offer me $30 an hour and i laughed and said $80 an hour
[22:34] <maddawgEOL> and we finally settled on $60 an hour
[22:52] <maddawgEOL> bacl
[22:52] <maddawgEOL> sorry
[22:52] <maddawgEOL> had to go for a second
[22:52] <maddawgEOL> moved to a new building
[22:53] <maddawgEOL> stupid wifi roaming sucks here
[23:59] <darkxst> robert_ancell, hi, can you take a look at my MP on bug 1377847
[23:59] <ubot5> bug 1377847 in gnome-desktop3 (Ubuntu Utopic) "unity screen saver no longer blanks nor locks automatically" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1377847