[09:58] <dkessel> good "morning"
[11:27] <knome> balloons, we need to get the mailing list action under control
[11:27] <knome> "or i'll leave the list"
[12:01] <elfy> knome: it certainly appears to be degrading quickly
[12:04] <knome> i hate to say this, but it seems like it always happens when certain people post to the list
[12:05] <knome> imo, the thread was irrelevant and offtopic to begin with, but i didn't anticipate that other regulars would help it keep alive for so long
[12:05] <elfy> I know what you mean - glad you said people and not person
[12:07] <knome> all in all, the signal to noise ratio is way too high at the moment for the list to be useful at all
[12:08] <knome> it's a harsh way to deal with it, but maybe we should move to an all-moderated mode for a while.
[12:09] <knome> this is a quite similar situation we had with the xubuntu development list, except that it's worse here
[12:09] <elfy> yep
[12:12] <knome> balloons, thoughts?
[12:19] <elfy> trouble with moderating this list is the people that turn up to say "hey I'd like to help" - moderating would be like a door
[12:19] <elfy> better if it can be done so that people who post like recently get moderated
[12:19] <elfy> bbl
[14:27] <balloons> knome, elfy a few folks are set to moderated. Perhaps it needs to be more
[14:35] <deepubuntu> balloons: hello! :)
[14:35] <deepubuntu> I have tried do manual testing of iso's using vm ware and due to some reasons it is failed!
[14:35] <deepubuntu> I have an old machine! can I install a testing version of iso in that machine! If I can!
[14:35] <deepubuntu> should I have to download the entire ISO daily or I have to update it only!
[14:37] <balloons> deepubuntu, hello to you as well
[14:38] <balloons> deepubuntu, a real machine to test on is perfect. To save time and bandwidth, use a tool called zsync to update the iso
[14:38] <balloons> deepubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage. There's some notes about it
[14:39] <deepubuntu> so I can use my old machine for good stuff ;) :)
[14:39] <deepubuntu> thanks a lot for the link though! :)
[14:48] <elfy> balloons: would appear so
[15:32] <elfy> balloons: did you try with vbox yesterday?
[15:33] <balloons> elfy, live session doesn't start in vbox yes
[15:34] <elfy> ok - thanks - just wanted some confirmation from someone I can trust
[15:35] <elfy> I *really* didn't want to raise yet another vbox bug :(
[15:35] <elfy> not even sure what to report it against - it's not lightdm - that's started
[15:35] <elfy> balloons: if you have some idea what to report against I'll do it later
[15:58]  * balloons just saw the new responses on quality.. oi!
[16:02] <elfy> confused
[16:04] <elfy> balloons: I did bug 1378423 - did it against xorg for the moment
[16:04] <balloons> elfy, perfect
[16:06] <elfy> if you could confirm that would be good
[16:10] <balloons> elfy, I was simply mentioning I hadn't yet seen all the new responses this morning to the help thread
[16:10] <balloons> there are 20 messages on it
[16:10] <elfy> oic
[16:10] <elfy> yea - that's just rubbish :(
[16:10]  * balloons made launchpad janitor do it
[16:11] <elfy> I tend to ignore most things on that list - if I'd have seen message #1 before there was message #10 I'd have said - NO - this isn't the right place for this
[16:12] <elfy> there's this random Nicholas guy keeps posting to it - those ones go straight to Junk :p
[16:12] <balloons> yea, ali knows that
[16:13] <elfy> that I Junk Nicholas's messages?
[16:13] <elfy> :D
[16:14] <balloons> elfy, lol..
[16:14] <balloons> that the thread should go on a users list
[16:15] <elfy> yea
[16:19] <ianorlin> hmm there is no dialy from yesterday on the tracker for an i386 or amd64 lubuntu versions
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[16:35] <elfy> balloons: ^^ getting history of dailies ...
[17:01] <elopio> balloons: meeting?
[17:45] <elopio> nice shirt balloons
[17:46] <balloons> elopio, represent :-)
[17:46] <balloons> elopio, hangout?
[17:46] <elopio> balloons: yes!
[17:47] <elopio> balloons: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/qa
[18:36] <wxl> any reason why so many of the images are out dates? lubuntu, kubuntu, gnome, studio all have images from the 6th
[18:36] <wxl> edubuntu has images from the 3rd O_O
[18:37] <wxl> lots of images from the 6th but i could imagine that they're rolling over?
[18:37] <wxl> xubuntu has a version called "utopic" :)
[18:37] <wxl> and the netboot version numbers make no sense to me!!!
[18:39] <wxl> anyone? bueller?
[18:40] <elfy> wxl: the utopic xubuntu one is as expected - it's seperate from the dailies - it doesn't change at all - exactly what I wanted :)
[18:40] <wxl> elfy: ok just checking
[18:40] <elfy> mmm jenkins is showing everyone's last success at around beta time too
[18:41] <elfy> balloons: do you know what's going on with the images?
[19:18] <balloons> elfy, as in why yesterday is still there? no
[19:19] <balloons> pending still shows today
[19:19] <balloons> err yesterday heh
[19:19] <wxl> so balloons can lubuntu have images from today please? XD
[19:21] <knome> wxl, it was just noted that all the flavors have the same problem, and the cause is unknown.
[19:21] <wxl> knome: it's not all of them is it?
[19:21] <knome> wxl, maybe you should read what is said in the channel?
[19:22] <knome> 21:40  elfy: mmm jenkins is showing everyone's last success at around beta time too
[19:22] <wxl> ouch
[19:23] <knome> wxl, and you can look in the tracker yourself as well; ubuntu desktop images are from 06 as well
[19:26] <elfy> balloons: all in all I will be pleased when we're doing Vexatious Vampire
[19:27] <elfy> and I'm not sure I'll be doing Vexatious Vampire on Virtualbox either :p
[19:27] <elfy> someone else can file those bugs next cycle :D
[19:28] <balloons> elfy, lol.. vampire