[04:00] <jimmy_> Hello
[04:00] <jimmy_> Any one here
[04:01] <jimmy_> I'm installing gentoo but ...
[04:01] <jimmy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8511835/
[04:03] <jimmy_> I need help~
[08:48] <safiyyah> Morning all, having trouble deleting thunderbird. Anyone around?
[08:49] <popey> why do you want to delete thunderbird?
[08:49] <popey> (morning btw)
[08:52] <safiyyah> morning popey! Your xorg.conf file saved the day  yet again for me :)
[08:52] <safiyyah> popey because thunderbird is annoying. Just need evolution
[08:53] <popey> heh
[08:54] <popey> i have them both installed but just don't use thunderbird
[08:54] <zmoylan-pi> evolution is never annoying :-p
[08:54] <zmoylan-pi> i used to love thunderbird
[08:54] <zmoylan-pi> then it got s.l.o...w......
[08:55] <Myrtti> I hate the chat feature with a passion
[08:55] <safiyyah> zmoylan-pi, i lovE evolution
[08:56] <safiyyah> it's the thunderbird I want to be rid of
[08:56] <safiyyah> I keep removing it in the software centre
[08:56] <safiyyah> and the thing is not going
[08:56] <safiyyah> Googled up purge and some people said it caused problems
[08:56] <safiyyah> so am here for help
[08:56] <popey> i personally wouldn't remove it
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Frappe Day! :-D
[09:04] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:05] <safiyyah> popey, never mind.... it came off!!!! yeii
[09:06] <safiyyah> popey. there are some software pieces that do nothing but annoy a person
[09:06] <safiyyah> and make you want to scream at them
[09:06] <safiyyah> thunderbird is one for me!
[09:07] <awilkins> I don't really like either Thunderbird or Evolution much
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> evolution annoys me but does what i want for now
[09:08] <awilkins> We need a more Google-mail-ish fat email client
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> i can see myself moving to mutt or alpine in the future
[09:08] <awilkins> The whole mail folder concept is so last century
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> and on my android tablet keep promising to stop using the google gmail client as it sucks
[09:08] <awilkins> Big mail store + labels 4tw
[09:09] <zmoylan-pi> i'm fine with folders, good enough for the victorians... :-)
[09:09] <safiyyah> I think they will need to look at like a googlemail merging thing in the end
[09:14] <diplo> awilkins, colleague here uses Rouncube day in and out on his local machine
[09:14] <diplo> Works for him
[09:23] <awilkins> diplo, But it has PHP cooties!
[09:24] <diplo> :P
[09:27]  * jussi waves to the channel
[09:28] <popey> lo
[09:29] <popey> congrats!
[09:29] <jussi> thanks popey!!
[09:29] <jussi> first bit of time to myself for ages...
[09:31] <jussi> I actually slept last night, thanks to my daughter actually not waking up :)
[09:33] <jussi> and the boy is a good sleeper, surprisingly :)
[09:41] <popey> directhex: that venn stone guy doesn't seem very pleasant
[10:05]  * davmor2 fraps JamesTai1 with a wet kipper
[10:06] <davmor2> JamesTai1: also why the 1 ;)
[10:06]  * JamesTai1 sighs
[10:11] <JamesTait> Thanks for the heads-up, davmor2.  Apparently I got disconnected at 10:43.  I could have sworn my alt nick was JamesTait_ though.
[10:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: haha no worries :)
[11:13] <ikonia> hail hex
[11:13] <directhex> hi ikonia
[11:14] <selinuxium_> Hi all  o/
[11:14] <selinuxium_> Anyone here had any experience of jobscheduler?
[11:17] <popey> wow, the rest of those linux game cast guys are pretty nasty too
[11:17] <selinuxium_> 'lo popey, directhex
[11:17] <popey> yo
[11:19] <selinuxium_> popey, you looked liek you were having fun at Oggcamp... I must get to one someday..
[11:19] <directhex> sick of the toxicity in *both* communities i thoght i was part of
[11:20] <popey> yeah
[11:21] <awilkins> Urrgh, really? There are #gamersgate pillocks in the Linux community?
[11:23] <ali1234> personally i'm sick of being blamed for what essentially amounts to a feud between about four people, both sides of which are awful manipulative scum, and which normal rational people are entirely capable of not joining in on
[11:26] <directhex> awilkins, gamergate is a front. people with shared causes form part of both linux & gamer communities.
[11:26] <czajkowski> popey: saw this and thought of you! http://www.panmacmillan.com/book/bencrystal/yousaypotato?id=38
[11:29] <popey> heh
[11:32] <popey> they're all wrong, it's "potato"
[11:33] <davmor2> popey: this is how most people say potato, Chips
[11:34] <zmoylan-pi> spud is a less ambiguous word as in america chips means something completely different :-)
[11:35] <popey> maybe up north where you live ☻
[11:36] <zmoylan-pi> i live in the south, in the good old irish free state :-D
[11:36]  * popey was talking to davmor2 ☻
[11:37] <zmoylan-pi> apoligies, carry on :-)
[11:37]  * awilkins also live Up North but is from Down South.
[11:37] <davmor2> popey: no I bet more people say crisps and chips than say potato nowadays :P
[11:38] <zmoylan-pi> no fans of smash? :-)
[11:38] <awilkins> ewwww
[11:38] <awilkins> Smash is wallpaper paste that got rejected because it wouldn't hold the wallpaper up
[11:41] <safiyyah> popey, daftykins, I rebooted the system and well, the graphics broke!!!
[11:43] <popey> my kids like smash
[11:43] <popey> but i never buy it
[11:46] <safiyyah> sorry I pressed exit by mistake
[11:47] <safiyyah> right I have horrid graphics again!!!!
[11:47] <safiyyah> the nvidia drivers seem to have magically disappeared
[11:49] <safiyyah> popey, sorry am stuck
[11:49] <safiyyah> i can't find restricted extras
[11:49] <safiyyah> and no nvidia drivers either
[11:49] <safiyyah> something has gone
[11:50] <safiyyah> and I know what I did, I was changing the gdm wallpaper and it broke!
[11:50] <popey> you removed unity and thunderbird, and added gnome shell?
[11:50] <safiyyah> oh I found nvidia......
[11:51] <safiyyah> yes I did
[11:51] <safiyyah> i didnt remove unity
[11:51] <safiyyah> its still there
[11:51] <safiyyah> only thunderbird
[11:51] <safiyyah> I have an option to log in with unity or gnome, I can choose
[11:51] <safiyyah> no need to delete unity
[11:52] <safiyyah> so I found Nvidia, so the issue is the settings.... this has happened before
[11:52] <safiyyah> I think 2 years ago
[11:52] <safiyyah> we had to do something to X
[11:54] <safiyyah> popey, On the Nvidia X Server Settings it says that ' Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page: The NVIDIA X driver on safiyyah:0.0 is not new
[11:54] <safiyyah> enough to support the nvidia-settings Display
[11:56] <safiyyah> Popey, my notes say the 173 driver is the right one and all others don't work because my card is Nvidia Geforce 8400
[11:56] <popey> sorry, I'm a bit busy at the moment.
[11:58] <safiyyah> popey, shall I wait or come back at a different time?
[11:59] <popey> probably better off asking in #ubuntu
[11:59] <safiyyah> okay
[12:21] <diplo> https://jobs-williamsf1.icims.com/jobs/1806/it-infrastructure-technician-%28race-team%29/job?in_iframe=1
[12:21] <diplo> Tempted :)
[12:22] <brobostigon> :)
[12:51] <awilkins> diplo, It's a Microsoft job
[12:51] <awilkins> eww
[12:52] <diplo> But it's F1! :)
[12:52] <diplo> I get to go around the world
[13:02] <awilkins> You get to go around the world MAINTAINING WINDOWS SERVER
[13:03] <awilkins> :'-(
[13:11] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: But that's what's so good. You *have* to go to parts forgein as remote access is so poor on Windows. If it were Linux, you'd just SSH and stay in the basement.
[13:12] <brobostigon> and spend more time with Wife/GF/partner.
[13:14] <diplo> Or go to foreign countries to get away from above :)
[13:15] <brobostigon> that has been known, yes.
[13:15] <TwistedLucidity> I wonder when the first F1 car will have to retire as it blue-screened.
[13:15] <TwistedLucidity> Or "Clippy: It looks like you are trying to race..."
[13:15] <brobostigon> lol
[13:20] <awilkins> I thought about taking a contract in Qatar for i) Lots of moolah and ii) getting away from wife
[13:20] <awilkins> But there was iii) getting away from daughter, which is much less desirable
[13:22] <diplo> awilkins, that would be my biggest issue ( have significant other ) but do have 2 boys
[13:24] <diplo> I have no significant other*
[13:54] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: it looks like you are exceeding the speed limit, let me help you slow down
[13:55] <davmor2> just hear the race driver weeping into the mic in his helmet
[13:55] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: Also, iv) It's Qatar.
[13:56] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: This F1 car is not activated, would you like to activate now?
[13:58] <awilkins> TwistedLucidity, Yeah, the whole "We take your passport away until we are sure your contract is over" thing... no thanks. And no thanks to the whole demonization of women thing.
[13:59] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: I will assume you are coming from a Western country and are white. Your passport will not be taken. That kind of behaviour is reserved for the slaves they kill building stadia.
[13:59] <TwistedLucidity> I used to live in the M.E., a greater disparity in wealth and treatment of humans is hard to imagine.
[14:17] <foobarry> mile end?
[14:17] <foobarry> since that statement is very true
[14:17] <foobarry> hobbits, desolation and smog
[14:22] <awilkins> Middle East
[17:37] <marshmn> grrr... why don't Lenovo make any nice 15" ThinkPads these days? :/
[17:38] <marshmn> worried that 14" might feel too small
[17:42] <DJones> marshmn: I've got an outstanding Lenovo Y510P which I'm pretty sure is 15.6", may not be a thinkpad, but works out of the box with 14.04
[17:43] <DJones> marshmn: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/y-series/y510p/
[17:46] <marshmn> DJonesj: thanks, good to know - I've been slightly avoiding those for a few reasons (they have nvidia chipset rather than Intel graphics so always slightly worried about things like suspend working well and so on, also somewhat heavier than some of the higher end ThinkPads, also lacking the nipple...)
[17:46] <marshmn> but it's still of interest
[17:46] <marshmn> do you find the graphics chipset works fine?
[17:47] <marshmn> no issues with suspend/hibernate etc?
[17:47] <DJones> marshmn: Its got dual graphics, but has been 100% solid using nvidia-prime
[17:48] <DJones> I never use suspend/hibernate, if I'm away for any length of time I shut down, waiting a minute to power on isn't an issue for me
[17:48] <DJones> I'd be surprised if suspend/hibernate was much quicker
[17:49] <marshmn> it's not really the time to boot it saves - more the time to start up all my apps again etc
[17:50] <DJones> It doesn't have and SSD,  so that may slow things down slightly, but a few seconds/minutes isn't an issue for me, I always prefer to start app's fresh each boot so I know whats going on, rather than something from a week or so ago  coming back to haunt me
[17:51] <DJones> I work on the idea that if I need something running, I wouldn't let it shut down/sleep/hibernate etc anyway
[17:52] <DJones> I use it as a home machine, nothing I run is mission critical so it doesn't matter when something gets shut down
[17:52] <marshmn> that's fair enough, not saying you're wrong, just doesn't fit with my workflow in past experience
[17:52] <DJones> Th18:44              >>> GaboXandre!~GaboXandr@unaffiliated/gabriel1
[17:52] <DJones> 18:44              >>> Guest42084!~patrick@185.39.90.84
[17:52] <DJones> stupid pastebin
[17:52] <marshmn> I don't want to have to restart all my dev tools, IDE, virtual machines etc etc when I'm moving from coffee shop to home etc
[17:53] <DJones> Thats what I thought, its not important to me, I use apps as a user (and then desktop apps only), so nothing like you may need
[17:53] <marshmn> yeah, fair enough - everyone has their own requirements/workflows :)
[17:54] <DJones> Definately, I'm probably the odd one out here, I don't need dev tools etc, I use Ubuntu as a user, browsing, email, torrents, office apps etc, nothing tech based
[20:08] <foobarry> android tablet running horrifically slow
[20:08] <foobarry> has 4gb free space
[20:13] <safiyyah> has the gnome configurations manager in 14.04 moved? like I seriously can't find it and no luck with google
[20:14] <zmoylan-pi> how many apps are running foobarry?
[20:14] <foobarry> zmoylan-pi: shut a few down
[20:14] <foobarry> typing etc still lags
[20:14] <foobarry> lags at boot up tbh
[20:14] <zmoylan-pi> do a reboot?
[20:15] <zmoylan-pi> can be a lag at bootup due to thundering herd of apps and services starting at same time
[20:15] <foobarry> just installed task manager
[20:15] <foobarry> 144mb free
[20:15] <foobarry> ram
[20:15] <zmoylan-pi> that would do it :-)
[20:16] <foobarry> 0 is bad 100mb is  ok
[20:19] <foobarry> 258mb free
[20:19] <foobarry> task killer lied
[20:21] <foobarry> still laggy]
[20:24] <zmoylan-pi> some recent app installed causing the slowdown?
[20:28] <foobarry> dunno, belongs to the wife
[20:28] <foobarry> gonna ask her to purge some apsp
[20:28] <foobarry> and then put cyanogen on if it persists
[20:28] <foobarry> or maybe factory reset
[20:53] <diddledan> my nexus7 is dog slow, too
[21:08] <ali1234> my nexus 7 got really slow recently as well
[21:11] <diddledan> mine is almost unusable
[21:11] <diddledan> I haven't a clue why it's only the last while that it's been like it
[21:12] <diddledan> chrome takes forever to open and even when it is opening a tab takes another age
[21:12] <diddledan> and then I need to get it to respond to my typing to get an address into it
[21:13] <diddledan> the cynic in me might suggest it's deliberate in order to make L appear really fast (should it be released for the 2012 model)
[21:16] <safiyyah> is anyone about?