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Kilosguten morgen05:33
Squirmmorning05:38
bushtechKilos: : Morgen. Jy al jou hd gekry?05:39
Kiloslol nee man dis n groot boggerop, ian wag vir n invoice van hulle vir die vervoer en hulle se hulle kannie een uitmaak net vir vervoer nie05:40
Kilosso die rep is besig om te sien wat hulle kan uitwerk daar05:41
bushtechai jai jai05:41
Kilosja groot pein die mense, als moet volgens die boek gedoen word05:44
Kilosits like we always turn on the pc with our right hand and if that gets hurt we cant turn on the pc05:59
Kiloswe are surrounded by fools05:59
bushtechyeah, you wonder how they stay in business06:12
Kiloslol06:20
Kilosthey cant seem to work out anything thats out of the normall run of things06:20
Kilosnormal06:21
Kilosbut if they wait long enough ill order something else then they can send the drive with the new order haha06:21
Kilosthats what they did with a pioneer dvd writer that packed up06:22
bdukMorning everyone06:25
Kiloshi bduk  06:25
Kiloswaar is mazal?06:25
bduklaaaang storie06:25
Kilosoi06:25
SquirmMaaz: coffee on06:29
* Maaz washes some mugs06:29
KilosMaaz  coffee please06:30
MaazKilos: Righto06:30
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!06:33
ThatGraemeGuy_mornings06:34
Squirmhi ThatGraemeGuy 06:35
ThatGraemeGuy_can't connect to my bouncer this morning for some reason :-/06:37
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy_  06:41
KilosMaaz  danke06:41
MaazBitteschön06:41
Squirmlol06:46
Squirmnice ThatGraemeGuy 06:46
SquirmI can ;)06:46
Squirmwell06:46
SquirmI can connect to mine06:46
inetprogood mornings06:48
Kiloshi inetpro  06:48
inetprohello Kilos, you feel better today?06:54
Kilosyes ty inetpro  head subsided some06:57
Kiloswas a yucky one yesterday06:58
Kilosonnet is fixed again07:02
inetproyep later last night I was able to go in again07:06
Kilosim happy , thats a convenient thing to use07:07
Kilossim cards last longer07:07
Kilosmoving sim to cell is a big schlep07:08
Kilosthis is quite interesting for peeps with einas07:19
Kiloshttp://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/07/14/chili-peppers-pain-relief.aspx07:19
charlgood morning07:27
ThatGraemeGuy_mmmmmmmmmmmmm chilli07:27
ThatGraemeGuy_thanks Kilos now I feel like a fiery burrito :-/07:27
Kiloslol07:27
Kilosseems like they have quite a few healing properties07:28
Kilosi must try find some habanero seed07:29
ThatGraemeGuy_weather hot enough there?07:30
ThatGraemeGuy_or have you got some articial weather-controlled garden setup? :)07:30
Kilosin summer yeah,07:30
Kilosi grow most local chillies here and peppadew07:31
ThatGraemeGuy_yummy07:31
Kiloswill need to look into the requirements for habaneros07:31
ThatGraemeGuy_you ever make your own chilli poppers?07:32
Kiloswhats that07:32
ThatGraemeGuy_i think they like hot weather and not too much water07:32
ThatGraemeGuy_chilli popper is a chilli that's stuffed, battered and deep-fried07:32
Kilosi make my own chilli garlic sauce for putting with stews and curries07:33
ThatGraemeGuy_usually stuffed with a cheesy/meaty conbination07:33
Kilosoooo i must try that with peppadews they are nice and round07:33
ThatGraemeGuy_cream cheese and chorizo for instance, or bacon even07:33
Kilosmaybe a bit small07:33
ThatGraemeGuy_the poppers you get at restaurants/pubs are typically made with jalapenos07:34
Kilosthe main heat is in the pips07:34
ThatGraemeGuy_pickled ones usually, although some places make them with fresh chillis07:34
ThatGraemeGuy_chillis? chillies?07:34
ThatGraemeGuy_mmm07:34
ThatGraemeGuy_#spellcheck07:34
ThatGraemeGuy_:)07:34
Kilosboth work07:34
Kilosyanks say chilli07:35
KilosMaaz  spell chilli07:35
MaazKilos: That seems correct. Carry on07:35
KilosMaaz  spell chllies07:35
MaazKilos: Suggestions: Cullies07:35
Kilosai!07:35
KilosMaaz  spell chillies07:35
MaazKilos: That doesn't seem correct, but I can't find anything to suggest07:35
ThatGraemeGuy_maaz spell chillis07:35
MaazThatGraemeGuy_: Suggestions: chilli, Challis or challis07:35
ThatGraemeGuy_blech07:35
ThatGraemeGuy_maaz is retarded07:35
Kiloshe dont fancy plural07:36
Kilosall depends on what disctionaries he has installed methinks07:37
Kilosdictionaries07:37
Kilosi wonder if one buys jalapeno and habaneros if the seeds will grow07:39
Kilosmost other stuff is genetically modified so you cant use the seeds07:39
Kilosah i see them popper things07:41
Kiloshttp://www.eatout.co.za/article/buy-cheesy-chilli-poppers/07:42
Kiloslook yummy07:42
grembleo/07:43
Kiloswhew they like charging hey07:43
KilosR59 for 407:43
Kiloshi gremble  07:43
grembleHey Kilos 07:43
Kiloswe into hot stuff this morning07:43
ThatGraemeGuy_my local place charges R39 for 507:44
ThatGraemeGuy_mexican place close to the office is R45 for 2, they're crazy07:44
Kilosthats a bit better07:44
Kiloshow many can one eat anyway, arent they kinda hot07:45
Kilosnow i gotta find jalapenos07:46
Kiloshttp://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/31-fearless-ways-to-stuff-a-jalapeno-chile#22b7ehy07:46
ThatGraemeGuy_jalapenos are the just the right amount of hot07:47
Kilosand look how they spell chilli07:47
Kilosoi mouth watering now07:48
ThatGraemeGuy_yeah :-/07:50
grembleWhat is the change that anyone here is familiar with git?07:54
grembleHmm I just asked about git, I didn't want to mutilate the conversation.08:06
Kiloshahaha sorry i was vacuuming some dust up08:07
KilosThatGraemeGuy_  uses git08:08
Kiloswhat do you want to know about it 08:08
grembleWe had the cutest Rainspider in the bathroom today08:08
grembleI did however almost shit myself when I met it08:09
gremble:P08:09
Kilosspiders are only good for stomping08:09
grembleThat is horrible08:09
Kilosso are they08:09
grembleYou don't kill something simply because you don't like it D:08:09
Kilosspiders bite man08:09
grembleSo do some woman08:10
gremblewomen*08:10
Kilosrofl08:10
grembleWe don't stomp them08:10
Kiloswe invented doom for spiders08:10
gremblePretty sure that that is the same mentality that caused the holocaust08:12
gremble:P08:12
Kiloshahaha08:12
Kilosthat was peeps man not insects08:13
grembleNot for the people in charge. They just killed what they did not like08:13
* Squirm looks around08:13
Kiloswhat about git gremble  08:13
gremble:P08:13
grembleTrying to fix a repo that is behind from the master branch without pulling it into a local repository08:14
Kiloswhy is it behind08:15
Kilosnot syncing?08:15
grembleBecause I forked it and haven't kept up with the master branch08:15
Kilosah08:16
Kilosyou need clever peeps help with that08:16
Kilosone file at a time i use wget -c08:16
KilosSymmetria  speak up now08:17
grembleYou sync from git with wget?08:19
Kilosi just fetch one file with wget dont know more than that08:20
Kilosso if connection drops the -c gets what it missed08:20
grembleOh08:21
grembleYes08:21
grembleNow I understand08:21
gremble:P08:21
Kilosuse wget to downloads isos08:23
gremblewget is actually a very clever utility08:24
Kilosmuch faster than browser downloads08:24
grembleNever bothered to read its man page08:24
Kiloswget saved me lots of data when i still had a bad connection08:26
Kilosas in with voda and mtn08:26
SquirmI use torrents where I can, to download ISO's, like Linux Distro's08:29
Squirmor aria2c08:29
SquirmI guess it's similar to wget08:29
Squirmalso has a resume function08:30
Squirmcan anyone here explain to me what Ansible does?08:51
Kilosgremble  maybe worth reading this08:51
Kiloshttps://www.packtpub.com/books/content/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-and-apt-cacher08:51
grembleI don't use ubuntu08:53
grembleor debian08:53
Kilosoh ok08:53
grembleStill a nice thing to be able to do though08:54
Squirmgremble: what distro do you use?08:55
grembleArchlinux08:56
Squirmok08:56
gremble:P08:56
Kiloshehe maybe this is better, i have read it08:58
Kiloshttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Local_Mirror08:58
Kiloshavent08:58
Squirma local mirror will be massive08:58
Kilosya 08:59
Kilosbut he has one at git and needs to sync it to get it updated08:59
Kilosif i understood correctly09:00
Squirmgit repository != distro repository09:01
gremble^09:02
grembleYes sorry for the misunderstanding09:02
gremblegit repository is just a bunch of code for a program09:02
Squirmgremble: surely you could clone it into a new directory?09:03
SquirmI don't really work with git. git pull is probably the furthest I've been09:04
grembleYes I can. I am just extremely lazy.09:07
gremble:P09:07
grembleIt does not need manual intervention to merge, so I just wanted to merge it on the web interface09:08
magespawnhi 09:42
Kiloshi magespawn  09:42
magespawnhow are things Kilos?09:45
Kilosok ty magespawn  and by you?09:45
magespawni am good thanks. been fighting with Telkom again.09:46
Kilosai!09:46
Kilosthey seem more worried about their mobile stuff than landlines09:46
magespawngoing on three weeks now09:46
Kilosthey gotta get techies out from empangeni to fix it?09:47
Kilosor you in pangeni now09:47
Kilosbut they have changed as well from my time. we did everything. now they sub to outside peeps09:47
bushtech_and they only work on weekends09:48
Kiloslol09:48
bushtech_make more overtime that way09:49
Kilosall about money09:49
nuvolario/ oh hi10:20
Kiloshellooooo nuvolari  10:20
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos 10:20
nuvolari:P10:20
Kilossukkel jy?10:20
nuvolariHeard you skinnering about me10:20
nuvolariek doen oom :P10:20
Kiloshaha10:20
nuvolariwoes by die werk10:20
Kilossjoe10:21
Kilosvasbyt10:21
nuvolaridoes anyone know of good PHP developers that would be capable of writing a plugin for wordpress?10:21
tinuvai know why you don't find good php developers...because anyone that can be good with it, find it truly boring and probably moved on to something else10:25
grembleI wanted to write something in php once10:27
grembleBut I just waited for the feeling to pass10:27
Kiloslol10:27
grembleIm off to see the bank. It is no fun being a grown-up10:29
grembleCheers10:29
Kiloswb magespawn  10:32
magespawnty10:34
magespawnjust had to connect to the modem to prove that it is not online10:34
Kilosai!10:35
Kilosso frustrating when conections give probs10:35
Kilosconnections10:35
Kiloslike routers, eek , horrible things10:36
charlMaaz: coffee on10:47
* Maaz flips the salt-timer10:47
SquirmMaaz: coffee please10:48
MaazSquirm: Sure10:48
SquirmMaaz: larger10:48
Maazinna bucket for you Squirm10:48
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and Squirm!10:51
bdukWhat a Monday10:51
charlMaaz: thanks11:03
Maazcharl: No problem11:03
charla bucket of coffee whow11:03
charlhey bduk 11:03
bduka bucket of beer would be nice now11:04
magespawnand back again11:37
magespawnKilos are nice things, they allow you to make fancy patterns in wood11:38
magespawn^routers11:38
Kiloslol11:38
magespawnlearning how they work is the first step11:39
Kilostoo much reading11:43
grembleYou don't read how to use a router12:06
grembleYou attack a piece of wood like a crazy person12:06
Kilosi spent days reading how to get it going12:06
gremble9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~12:08
grembleoh sorry12:09
grembleThat was the kitten12:09
Kiloshaha12:09
grembleDunno how she did that, she didn;t even touch shift12:09
Kiloswas also wondering12:09
grembleI think they have a mental interface to keyboards12:09
grembleLol. She just discovered that even though tea smells delicious, it is quite hot12:11
gremble:P12:11
Kiloshmm...14:39
ThatGraemeGuy_...mmh14:40
Kilospeeps are in and out and my 3g has behaved all day14:42
Kiloswould be interesting to see where peeps are losing connection to irc14:42
Kiloshey maths guy14:44
Kiloswork it out14:44
Kilosgremble  thats you14:44
inetproKilos: what you mean with where?14:45
Kilosat which server or link from where they are till they get on here inetpro  14:46
inetpropointless exercise14:46
inetproso many factors14:46
Kilosim sure you know what i mean but in a strydom mood again today14:46
inetpronee man14:46
Kiloshaha14:46
KilosThatGraemeGuy_  when you did the backup of minetest did you check if there were rods in the chest14:48
Kilos?14:48
Kilosi can go and load it with the bad stuffs14:49
grembleWhat am I working out?14:54
ThatGraemeGuy_eh?15:11
ThatGraemeGuy_i don't check anything, i just stop the server, make a backup copy and start it again15:11
Kiloslol gremble  working out what part of your connection is the weak link15:41
Kilosor did you reboot or something15:41
Kilosoh ya out and back too fast for a reboot15:42
grembleOh, no. There was some kind of latency issue that I just sorted out by restarting irssi15:45
Kilosaha15:46
Kilosoi it got the crash kid too16:11
* Kilos just made a pinkberry outa a blackberry16:17
Kilosboet gave sis his old 8520 but screen thing was scratched so it became a pinkberry16:18
charlhey cocooncrash 17:24
* Squirm plays with Vagrant17:26
charlit's awesome hey17:27
charland packer ?17:27
Squirmcharl: this is all new to me. going to be doing it at my new place of work17:31
SquirmVagrant with Ansible17:31
SquirmI guess packer is the same as Ansible17:32
Squirmbut not sure :P17:32
Squirm17min to download the Vagrant box17:33
Squirmslow internet17:33
* Squirm opens some wine17:33
grembleI'm starting to think that we should hold an intervention for Squirm 17:34
grembleHe goes through a lot of wine17:34
Squirmmeh... red wine at room temperature. my room got to about 28deg today17:34
* Squirm puts it in the fridge for 5min17:34
Squirmlol gremble 17:34
Squirmnot really17:34
Squirmone or two glasses every now and again17:34
gremble:P17:35
Squirmand a bottle every now and again17:35
* Squirm hides17:35
Kiloslol17:41
Squirmred wine is tasty17:41
SquirmI have to start cleaning my house17:42
Squirmso I can start packing17:42
Squirm...at some point17:42
Kilosmethinks i gonna have an early night17:42
Kilossleep tight all. see ya morrow17:42
Squirmoh wow, it's almost 817:43
Squirmbye Kilos...17:44
charlSquirm: no packer is for creating vagrant images17:44
Squirmcharl: ok. I see17:45
charlSquirm: ansible is comparable to tools like puppet or chef17:45
SquirmI'm downloading the precise64 box from Vagrant Cloud17:45
Squirmcharl: afaik17:45
Squirmconfiguration management17:45
charlah17:46
charlyes cfgmnmt is big at the moment17:46
Squirmso I use Vagrant to create the VM and then Ansible to configure it as I see fit17:46
charlthere is a yearly conference in belgium about it17:46
charlwell packer creates the VM, vagrant runs it, ansible configures it17:47
SquirmI'm going to a company which has devs, so afaik it's to create exact replicas of the box17:47
charlif you use an already-made VM from vagrant cloud you don't need packer17:47
Squirmso if they break it, one command and they're back to a working clone of the live system17:47
Squirmaha17:47
Squirmok17:47
charlyes that is the whole point17:48
charlyou do know CI ? http://www.ansible.com/continuous-delivery17:48
Squirm^^17:48
charlwhere i work we use it as well (not ansible, a combination of jenkins, sonarqube, artifactory and other stuff)17:48
Squirmbefore today, I had no idea what Vagrant or Ansible was. But I had heard of Puppet and never of Chef17:48
charlthere is a camp in ghent i want to go to http://cfgmgmtcamp.eu/17:49
charlwhere i work there is also use of puppet but i personally am not a big fan of it17:49
Squirmcharl: I have no idea what else they use. I just asked my new boss what I should look at before I arrive and he suggested to learn as much as possible of Vagrant and Ansible17:50
charlthere is also http://kitchen.ci/17:50
charlVERY handy17:50
SquirmI'll chat to you about this in a month or so ^^17:50
charland consul http://www.consul.io/17:50
charlmade by the same company that made vagrant17:51
Squirmthat name sounds familiar...17:51
charla company called hashicorp https://www.hashicorp.com/17:51
SquirmI think they're going to be moving towards that17:51
Squirmconsul that is17:51
SquirmSuccessfully added box 'hashicorp/precise64'17:51
Squirmhaha17:51
SquirmI take it they made my Vagrant box17:51
charlit's simple as pie17:52
charlyou will laugh when you see it17:52
charlthey're not like the typical enterprise "let's make it as difficult as possible so that nobody understands it and we have to sell consultation" companies17:52
charlconsultation is big business and big money for large software corps like oracle, etc17:52
SquirmI know the plan is to move to AWS17:52
charlthat's a pity, AWS are running light years behind17:53
charlthey're about the most expensive IAAS provider out there right now afaik17:53
Squirmthat's where I come in. to take load off of the SysAdmin to he can focus on that17:53
gremblehttps://education.github.com/pack/17:53
charlnice gremble !17:54
SquirmOooh. I have my first Vagrant box up17:54
grembleThat is pretty cool17:54
grembleIt is the only place so far that does not require you to have a .edu email17:55
grembleSince SA universities don't have .edu TLD's >.>17:55
charlneither do NL or any other university outside the USA17:57
grembleYay for not getting proper student discounts17:58
grembleThere is an international student card that you can get so you have student credentials17:58
grembleBut you have to pay for that17:58
grembleIronically17:58
charldo you at least have eduroam ?17:59
charlthat is super awesome17:59
charl(*if* you like traveling)17:59
grembleYes we have eduroam18:00
grembleI can't get my laptop to connect to it though18:00
grembleIf youre talking about the wifi network18:00
gremble:P18:00
grembleOtherwise I don't know what it is18:01
Squirmcharl: Vagrant does provisioning. It can install your packages and you can get it to run shell scripts. surely you could use this in place of Ansible?18:01
charlnonono vagrant and ansible have two completely different functions18:02
charlvagrant is infrastructure ansible is applications (mostly)18:02
charlgremble: yes the wifi network, why doesn't it work for you?18:03
charli use it from my ubuntu laptop every day18:03
charlonce you are on it you can use it from all universities transparently doesn't matter where you are18:03
grembleNo. I cannot get it to connect.  Something about the network encryption18:04
grembleBut it is not an issue18:04
charlah, well if you ever need help don't be afraid to ask18:04
grembleMy laptop is too bulky to carry around18:04
charli can give you some tips18:04
charlah18:04
grembleSo I am not bothered18:04
grembleI have a 2009 laptop :P18:04
charllol18:04
grembleI bought it for R200 ^^18:05
magespawngood evening18:50
grembleo/18:50
inetprohullo18:57
Squirmhello18:57
Squirmgremble: my wine bottle is empty19:11
Squirmalas, there was only 3 glasses left19:11
grembleHmm19:12
grembleI don't have wine19:12
gremble:/19:12
grembleIsn't there like only 3 glasses in a bottle/19:12
Squirmmeh. it was half a bottle left19:20
Squirmso not a lot19:20
Squirmbed for me19:27
Squirmgnigh19:27
Squirmgnight19:27
inetprogood night Squirm19:36
magespawni am also out of here, good night all19:39

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