[05:33] <Kilos> guten morgen
[05:38] <Squirm> morning
[05:39] <bushtech> Kilos: : Morgen. Jy al jou hd gekry?
[05:40] <Kilos> lol nee man dis n groot boggerop, ian wag vir n invoice van hulle vir die vervoer en hulle se hulle kannie een uitmaak net vir vervoer nie
[05:41] <Kilos> so die rep is besig om te sien wat hulle kan uitwerk daar
[05:41] <bushtech> ai jai jai
[05:44] <Kilos> ja groot pein die mense, als moet volgens die boek gedoen word
[05:59] <Kilos> its like we always turn on the pc with our right hand and if that gets hurt we cant turn on the pc
[05:59] <Kilos> we are surrounded by fools
[06:12] <bushtech> yeah, you wonder how they stay in business
[06:20] <Kilos> lol
[06:20] <Kilos> they cant seem to work out anything thats out of the normall run of things
[06:21] <Kilos> normal
[06:21] <Kilos> but if they wait long enough ill order something else then they can send the drive with the new order haha
[06:22] <Kilos> thats what they did with a pioneer dvd writer that packed up
[06:25] <bduk> Morning everyone
[06:25] <Kilos> hi bduk  
[06:25] <Kilos> waar is mazal?
[06:25] <bduk> laaaang storie
[06:25] <Kilos> oi
[06:29] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[06:29]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:30] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[06:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[06:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[06:34] <ThatGraemeGuy_> mornings
[06:35] <Squirm> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:37] <ThatGraemeGuy_> can't connect to my bouncer this morning for some reason :-/
[06:41] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy_  
[06:41] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[06:41] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[06:46] <Squirm> lol
[06:46] <Squirm> nice ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:46] <Squirm> I can ;)
[06:46] <Squirm> well
[06:46] <Squirm> I can connect to mine
[06:48] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:48] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[06:54] <inetpro> hello Kilos, you feel better today?
[06:57] <Kilos> yes ty inetpro  head subsided some
[06:58] <Kilos> was a yucky one yesterday
[07:02] <Kilos> onnet is fixed again
[07:06] <inetpro> yep later last night I was able to go in again
[07:07] <Kilos> im happy , thats a convenient thing to use
[07:07] <Kilos> sim cards last longer
[07:08] <Kilos> moving sim to cell is a big schlep
[07:19] <Kilos> this is quite interesting for peeps with einas
[07:19] <Kilos> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/07/14/chili-peppers-pain-relief.aspx
[07:27] <charl> good morning
[07:27] <ThatGraemeGuy_> mmmmmmmmmmmmm chilli
[07:27] <ThatGraemeGuy_> thanks Kilos now I feel like a fiery burrito :-/
[07:27] <Kilos> lol
[07:28] <Kilos> seems like they have quite a few healing properties
[07:29] <Kilos> i must try find some habanero seed
[07:30] <ThatGraemeGuy_> weather hot enough there?
[07:30] <ThatGraemeGuy_> or have you got some articial weather-controlled garden setup? :)
[07:30] <Kilos> in summer yeah,
[07:31] <Kilos> i grow most local chillies here and peppadew
[07:31] <ThatGraemeGuy_> yummy
[07:31] <Kilos> will need to look into the requirements for habaneros
[07:32] <ThatGraemeGuy_> you ever make your own chilli poppers?
[07:32] <Kilos> whats that
[07:32] <ThatGraemeGuy_> i think they like hot weather and not too much water
[07:32] <ThatGraemeGuy_> chilli popper is a chilli that's stuffed, battered and deep-fried
[07:33] <Kilos> i make my own chilli garlic sauce for putting with stews and curries
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy_> usually stuffed with a cheesy/meaty conbination
[07:33] <Kilos> oooo i must try that with peppadews they are nice and round
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy_> cream cheese and chorizo for instance, or bacon even
[07:33] <Kilos> maybe a bit small
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy_> the poppers you get at restaurants/pubs are typically made with jalapenos
[07:34] <Kilos> the main heat is in the pips
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy_> pickled ones usually, although some places make them with fresh chillis
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy_> chillis? chillies?
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy_> mmm
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy_> #spellcheck
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy_> :)
[07:34] <Kilos> both work
[07:35] <Kilos> yanks say chilli
[07:35] <Kilos> Maaz  spell chilli
[07:35] <Maaz> Kilos: That seems correct. Carry on
[07:35] <Kilos> Maaz  spell chllies
[07:35] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: Cullies
[07:35] <Kilos> ai!
[07:35] <Kilos> Maaz  spell chillies
[07:35] <Maaz> Kilos: That doesn't seem correct, but I can't find anything to suggest
[07:35] <ThatGraemeGuy_> maaz spell chillis
[07:35] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy_: Suggestions: chilli, Challis or challis
[07:35] <ThatGraemeGuy_> blech
[07:35] <ThatGraemeGuy_> maaz is retarded
[07:36] <Kilos> he dont fancy plural
[07:37] <Kilos> all depends on what disctionaries he has installed methinks
[07:37] <Kilos> dictionaries
[07:39] <Kilos> i wonder if one buys jalapeno and habaneros if the seeds will grow
[07:39] <Kilos> most other stuff is genetically modified so you cant use the seeds
[07:41] <Kilos> ah i see them popper things
[07:42] <Kilos> http://www.eatout.co.za/article/buy-cheesy-chilli-poppers/
[07:42] <Kilos> look yummy
[07:43] <gremble> o/
[07:43] <Kilos> whew they like charging hey
[07:43] <Kilos> R59 for 4
[07:43] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[07:43] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[07:43] <Kilos> we into hot stuff this morning
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy_> my local place charges R39 for 5
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy_> mexican place close to the office is R45 for 2, they're crazy
[07:44] <Kilos> thats a bit better
[07:45] <Kilos> how many can one eat anyway, arent they kinda hot
[07:46] <Kilos> now i gotta find jalapenos
[07:46] <Kilos> http://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/31-fearless-ways-to-stuff-a-jalapeno-chile#22b7ehy
[07:47] <ThatGraemeGuy_> jalapenos are the just the right amount of hot
[07:47] <Kilos> and look how they spell chilli
[07:48] <Kilos> oi mouth watering now
[07:50] <ThatGraemeGuy_> yeah :-/
[07:54] <gremble> What is the change that anyone here is familiar with git?
[08:06] <gremble> Hmm I just asked about git, I didn't want to mutilate the conversation.
[08:07] <Kilos> hahaha sorry i was vacuuming some dust up
[08:08] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy_  uses git
[08:08] <Kilos> what do you want to know about it 
[08:08] <gremble> We had the cutest Rainspider in the bathroom today
[08:09] <gremble> I did however almost shit myself when I met it
[08:09] <gremble> :P
[08:09] <Kilos> spiders are only good for stomping
[08:09] <gremble> That is horrible
[08:09] <Kilos> so are they
[08:09] <gremble> You don't kill something simply because you don't like it D:
[08:09] <Kilos> spiders bite man
[08:10] <gremble> So do some woman
[08:10] <gremble> women*
[08:10] <Kilos> rofl
[08:10] <gremble> We don't stomp them
[08:10] <Kilos> we invented doom for spiders
[08:12] <gremble> Pretty sure that that is the same mentality that caused the holocaust
[08:12] <gremble> :P
[08:12] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:13] <Kilos> that was peeps man not insects
[08:13] <gremble> Not for the people in charge. They just killed what they did not like
[08:13]  * Squirm looks around
[08:13] <Kilos> what about git gremble  
[08:13] <gremble> :P
[08:14] <gremble> Trying to fix a repo that is behind from the master branch without pulling it into a local repository
[08:15] <Kilos> why is it behind
[08:15] <Kilos> not syncing?
[08:15] <gremble> Because I forked it and haven't kept up with the master branch
[08:16] <Kilos> ah
[08:16] <Kilos> you need clever peeps help with that
[08:16] <Kilos> one file at a time i use wget -c
[08:17] <Kilos> Symmetria  speak up now
[08:19] <gremble> You sync from git with wget?
[08:20] <Kilos> i just fetch one file with wget dont know more than that
[08:20] <Kilos> so if connection drops the -c gets what it missed
[08:21] <gremble> Oh
[08:21] <gremble> Yes
[08:21] <gremble> Now I understand
[08:21] <gremble> :P
[08:23] <Kilos> use wget to downloads isos
[08:24] <gremble> wget is actually a very clever utility
[08:24] <Kilos> much faster than browser downloads
[08:24] <gremble> Never bothered to read its man page
[08:26] <Kilos> wget saved me lots of data when i still had a bad connection
[08:26] <Kilos> as in with voda and mtn
[08:29] <Squirm> I use torrents where I can, to download ISO's, like Linux Distro's
[08:29] <Squirm> or aria2c
[08:29] <Squirm> I guess it's similar to wget
[08:30] <Squirm> also has a resume function
[08:51] <Squirm> can anyone here explain to me what Ansible does?
[08:51] <Kilos> gremble  maybe worth reading this
[08:51] <Kilos> https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-and-apt-cacher
[08:53] <gremble> I don't use ubuntu
[08:53] <gremble> or debian
[08:53] <Kilos> oh ok
[08:54] <gremble> Still a nice thing to be able to do though
[08:55] <Squirm> gremble: what distro do you use?
[08:56] <gremble> Archlinux
[08:56] <Squirm> ok
[08:56] <gremble> :P
[08:58] <Kilos> hehe maybe this is better, i have read it
[08:58] <Kilos> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Local_Mirror
[08:58] <Kilos> havent
[08:58] <Squirm> a local mirror will be massive
[08:59] <Kilos> ya 
[08:59] <Kilos> but he has one at git and needs to sync it to get it updated
[09:00] <Kilos> if i understood correctly
[09:01] <Squirm> git repository != distro repository
[09:02] <gremble> ^
[09:02] <gremble> Yes sorry for the misunderstanding
[09:02] <gremble> git repository is just a bunch of code for a program
[09:03] <Squirm> gremble: surely you could clone it into a new directory?
[09:04] <Squirm> I don't really work with git. git pull is probably the furthest I've been
[09:07] <gremble> Yes I can. I am just extremely lazy.
[09:07] <gremble> :P
[09:08] <gremble> It does not need manual intervention to merge, so I just wanted to merge it on the web interface
[09:42] <magespawn> hi 
[09:42] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[09:45] <magespawn> how are things Kilos?
[09:45] <Kilos> ok ty magespawn  and by you?
[09:46] <magespawn> i am good thanks. been fighting with Telkom again.
[09:46] <Kilos> ai!
[09:46] <Kilos> they seem more worried about their mobile stuff than landlines
[09:46] <magespawn> going on three weeks now
[09:47] <Kilos> they gotta get techies out from empangeni to fix it?
[09:47] <Kilos> or you in pangeni now
[09:47] <Kilos> but they have changed as well from my time. we did everything. now they sub to outside peeps
[09:48] <bushtech_> and they only work on weekends
[09:48] <Kilos> lol
[09:49] <bushtech_> make more overtime that way
[09:49] <Kilos> all about money
[10:20] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi
[10:20] <Kilos> hellooooo nuvolari  
[10:20] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Kilos 
[10:20] <nuvolari> :P
[10:20] <Kilos> sukkel jy?
[10:20] <nuvolari> Heard you skinnering about me
[10:20] <nuvolari> ek doen oom :P
[10:20] <Kilos> haha
[10:20] <nuvolari> woes by die werk
[10:21] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:21] <Kilos> vasbyt
[10:21] <nuvolari> does anyone know of good PHP developers that would be capable of writing a plugin for wordpress?
[10:25] <tinuva> i know why you don't find good php developers...because anyone that can be good with it, find it truly boring and probably moved on to something else
[10:27] <gremble> I wanted to write something in php once
[10:27] <gremble> But I just waited for the feeling to pass
[10:27] <Kilos> lol
[10:29] <gremble> Im off to see the bank. It is no fun being a grown-up
[10:29] <gremble> Cheers
[10:32] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[10:34] <magespawn> ty
[10:34] <magespawn> just had to connect to the modem to prove that it is not online
[10:35] <Kilos> ai!
[10:35] <Kilos> so frustrating when conections give probs
[10:35] <Kilos> connections
[10:36] <Kilos> like routers, eek , horrible things
[10:47] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:47]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:48] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[10:48] <Maaz> Squirm: Sure
[10:48] <Squirm> Maaz: larger
[10:48] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Squirm
[10:51] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Squirm!
[10:51] <bduk> What a Monday
[11:03] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[11:03] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[11:03] <charl> a bucket of coffee whow
[11:03] <charl> hey bduk 
[11:04] <bduk> a bucket of beer would be nice now
[11:37] <magespawn> and back again
[11:38] <magespawn> Kilos are nice things, they allow you to make fancy patterns in wood
[11:38] <magespawn> ^routers
[11:38] <Kilos> lol
[11:39] <magespawn> learning how they work is the first step
[11:43] <Kilos> too much reading
[12:06] <gremble> You don't read how to use a router
[12:06] <gremble> You attack a piece of wood like a crazy person
[12:06] <Kilos> i spent days reading how to get it going
[12:08] <gremble> 9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~9~
[12:09] <gremble> oh sorry
[12:09] <gremble> That was the kitten
[12:09] <Kilos> haha
[12:09] <gremble> Dunno how she did that, she didn;t even touch shift
[12:09] <Kilos> was also wondering
[12:09] <gremble> I think they have a mental interface to keyboards
[12:11] <gremble> Lol. She just discovered that even though tea smells delicious, it is quite hot
[12:11] <gremble> :P
[14:39] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:40] <ThatGraemeGuy_> ...mmh
[14:42] <Kilos> peeps are in and out and my 3g has behaved all day
[14:42] <Kilos> would be interesting to see where peeps are losing connection to irc
[14:44] <Kilos> hey maths guy
[14:44] <Kilos> work it out
[14:44] <Kilos> gremble  thats you
[14:45] <inetpro> Kilos: what you mean with where?
[14:46] <Kilos> at which server or link from where they are till they get on here inetpro  
[14:46] <inetpro> pointless exercise
[14:46] <inetpro> so many factors
[14:46] <Kilos> im sure you know what i mean but in a strydom mood again today
[14:46] <inetpro> nee man
[14:46] <Kilos> haha
[14:48] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy_  when you did the backup of minetest did you check if there were rods in the chest
[14:48] <Kilos> ?
[14:49] <Kilos> i can go and load it with the bad stuffs
[14:54] <gremble> What am I working out?
[15:11] <ThatGraemeGuy_> eh?
[15:11] <ThatGraemeGuy_> i don't check anything, i just stop the server, make a backup copy and start it again
[15:41] <Kilos> lol gremble  working out what part of your connection is the weak link
[15:41] <Kilos> or did you reboot or something
[15:42] <Kilos> oh ya out and back too fast for a reboot
[15:45] <gremble> Oh, no. There was some kind of latency issue that I just sorted out by restarting irssi
[15:46] <Kilos> aha
[16:11] <Kilos> oi it got the crash kid too
[16:17]  * Kilos just made a pinkberry outa a blackberry
[16:18] <Kilos> boet gave sis his old 8520 but screen thing was scratched so it became a pinkberry
[17:24] <charl> hey cocooncrash 
[17:26]  * Squirm plays with Vagrant
[17:27] <charl> it's awesome hey
[17:27] <charl> and packer ?
[17:31] <Squirm> charl: this is all new to me. going to be doing it at my new place of work
[17:31] <Squirm> Vagrant with Ansible
[17:32] <Squirm> I guess packer is the same as Ansible
[17:32] <Squirm> but not sure :P
[17:33] <Squirm> 17min to download the Vagrant box
[17:33] <Squirm> slow internet
[17:33]  * Squirm opens some wine
[17:34] <gremble> I'm starting to think that we should hold an intervention for Squirm 
[17:34] <gremble> He goes through a lot of wine
[17:34] <Squirm> meh... red wine at room temperature. my room got to about 28deg today
[17:34]  * Squirm puts it in the fridge for 5min
[17:34] <Squirm> lol gremble 
[17:34] <Squirm> not really
[17:34] <Squirm> one or two glasses every now and again
[17:35] <gremble> :P
[17:35] <Squirm> and a bottle every now and again
[17:35]  * Squirm hides
[17:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:41] <Squirm> red wine is tasty
[17:42] <Squirm> I have to start cleaning my house
[17:42] <Squirm> so I can start packing
[17:42] <Squirm> ...at some point
[17:42] <Kilos> methinks i gonna have an early night
[17:42] <Kilos> sleep tight all. see ya morrow
[17:43] <Squirm> oh wow, it's almost 8
[17:44] <Squirm> bye Kilos...
[17:44] <charl> Squirm: no packer is for creating vagrant images
[17:45] <Squirm> charl: ok. I see
[17:45] <charl> Squirm: ansible is comparable to tools like puppet or chef
[17:45] <Squirm> I'm downloading the precise64 box from Vagrant Cloud
[17:45] <Squirm> charl: afaik
[17:45] <Squirm> configuration management
[17:46] <charl> ah
[17:46] <charl> yes cfgmnmt is big at the moment
[17:46] <Squirm> so I use Vagrant to create the VM and then Ansible to configure it as I see fit
[17:46] <charl> there is a yearly conference in belgium about it
[17:47] <charl> well packer creates the VM, vagrant runs it, ansible configures it
[17:47] <Squirm> I'm going to a company which has devs, so afaik it's to create exact replicas of the box
[17:47] <charl> if you use an already-made VM from vagrant cloud you don't need packer
[17:47] <Squirm> so if they break it, one command and they're back to a working clone of the live system
[17:47] <Squirm> aha
[17:47] <Squirm> ok
[17:48] <charl> yes that is the whole point
[17:48] <charl> you do know CI ? http://www.ansible.com/continuous-delivery
[17:48] <Squirm> ^^
[17:48] <charl> where i work we use it as well (not ansible, a combination of jenkins, sonarqube, artifactory and other stuff)
[17:48] <Squirm> before today, I had no idea what Vagrant or Ansible was. But I had heard of Puppet and never of Chef
[17:49] <charl> there is a camp in ghent i want to go to http://cfgmgmtcamp.eu/
[17:49] <charl> where i work there is also use of puppet but i personally am not a big fan of it
[17:50] <Squirm> charl: I have no idea what else they use. I just asked my new boss what I should look at before I arrive and he suggested to learn as much as possible of Vagrant and Ansible
[17:50] <charl> there is also http://kitchen.ci/
[17:50] <charl> VERY handy
[17:50] <Squirm> I'll chat to you about this in a month or so ^^
[17:50] <charl> and consul http://www.consul.io/
[17:51] <charl> made by the same company that made vagrant
[17:51] <Squirm> that name sounds familiar...
[17:51] <charl> a company called hashicorp https://www.hashicorp.com/
[17:51] <Squirm> I think they're going to be moving towards that
[17:51] <Squirm> consul that is
[17:51] <Squirm> Successfully added box 'hashicorp/precise64'
[17:51] <Squirm> haha
[17:51] <Squirm> I take it they made my Vagrant box
[17:52] <charl> it's simple as pie
[17:52] <charl> you will laugh when you see it
[17:52] <charl> they're not like the typical enterprise "let's make it as difficult as possible so that nobody understands it and we have to sell consultation" companies
[17:52] <charl> consultation is big business and big money for large software corps like oracle, etc
[17:52] <Squirm> I know the plan is to move to AWS
[17:53] <charl> that's a pity, AWS are running light years behind
[17:53] <charl> they're about the most expensive IAAS provider out there right now afaik
[17:53] <Squirm> that's where I come in. to take load off of the SysAdmin to he can focus on that
[17:53] <gremble> https://education.github.com/pack/
[17:54] <charl> nice gremble !
[17:54] <Squirm> Oooh. I have my first Vagrant box up
[17:54] <gremble> That is pretty cool
[17:55] <gremble> It is the only place so far that does not require you to have a .edu email
[17:55] <gremble> Since SA universities don't have .edu TLD's >.>
[17:57] <charl> neither do NL or any other university outside the USA
[17:58] <gremble> Yay for not getting proper student discounts
[17:58] <gremble> There is an international student card that you can get so you have student credentials
[17:58] <gremble> But you have to pay for that
[17:58] <gremble> Ironically
[17:59] <charl> do you at least have eduroam ?
[17:59] <charl> that is super awesome
[17:59] <charl> (*if* you like traveling)
[18:00] <gremble> Yes we have eduroam
[18:00] <gremble> I can't get my laptop to connect to it though
[18:00] <gremble> If youre talking about the wifi network
[18:00] <gremble> :P
[18:01] <gremble> Otherwise I don't know what it is
[18:01] <Squirm> charl: Vagrant does provisioning. It can install your packages and you can get it to run shell scripts. surely you could use this in place of Ansible?
[18:02] <charl> nonono vagrant and ansible have two completely different functions
[18:02] <charl> vagrant is infrastructure ansible is applications (mostly)
[18:03] <charl> gremble: yes the wifi network, why doesn't it work for you?
[18:03] <charl> i use it from my ubuntu laptop every day
[18:03] <charl> once you are on it you can use it from all universities transparently doesn't matter where you are
[18:04] <gremble> No. I cannot get it to connect.  Something about the network encryption
[18:04] <gremble> But it is not an issue
[18:04] <charl> ah, well if you ever need help don't be afraid to ask
[18:04] <gremble> My laptop is too bulky to carry around
[18:04] <charl> i can give you some tips
[18:04] <charl> ah
[18:04] <gremble> So I am not bothered
[18:04] <gremble> I have a 2009 laptop :P
[18:04] <charl> lol
[18:05] <gremble> I bought it for R200 ^^
[18:50] <magespawn> good evening
[18:50] <gremble> o/
[18:57] <inetpro> hullo
[18:57] <Squirm> hello
[19:11] <Squirm> gremble: my wine bottle is empty
[19:11] <Squirm> alas, there was only 3 glasses left
[19:12] <gremble> Hmm
[19:12] <gremble> I don't have wine
[19:12] <gremble> :/
[19:12] <gremble> Isn't there like only 3 glasses in a bottle/
[19:20] <Squirm> meh. it was half a bottle left
[19:20] <Squirm> so not a lot
[19:27] <Squirm> bed for me
[19:27] <Squirm> gnigh
[19:27] <Squirm> gnight
[19:36] <inetpro> good night Squirm
[19:39] <magespawn> i am also out of here, good night all