[00:00] <sythe> TBH.
[00:00] <yorwos> ar45 : really ?
[00:00] <AR45_> yorwos: yes really
[00:00] <yorwos> thanx for the tip ;) will look into it
[00:00] <AR45_> yorwos: cpagrip.com
[00:01] <ObrienDave> let's see, I d/l a decent OS, make a GAZILLION changes, and then wonder why it does not work the way I expect it to.
[00:01] <nevermoreraven> should i kill myself?
[00:01] <AR45_> nevermoreraven: probably
[00:01] <nevermoreraven> why?
[00:01] <ObrienDave> please do
[00:02] <yorwos> hm , maybe i could make a page with a movie i make for pple to see and get paid through that ;)
[00:03] <iksf> why does everyone like elementaryos so much latel
[00:03] <ObrienDave> because it's simple and works
[00:03] <iksf> the packages are so ancient compared to debian or ubuntu though
[00:03] <dexter93> iksf, it looks like a mac and it's free
[00:04] <iksf> how do you enable a location bar in nautilus btw keep forgetting to change that
[00:04] <iksf> really annoying to me
[00:05] <AR45_> Can someone assist me with setting up wireless driver on ubuntu 14.04 on MacBook Pro 2010
[00:05] <iksf> please don't say gconf im done with that
[00:06] <daftykins> AR45_: broadcom device?
[00:06] <dexter93> iksf, dconf?
[00:06] <ObrienDave> gconf ;)
[00:06] <ObrienDave> dconf ;)
[00:06]  * ObrienDave covers all bases ;P
[00:06] <AR45_> daftykins: yes please private message me
[00:07] <daftykins> AR45_: no, we do not PM here. help remains in channel to benefit others
[00:07] <daftykins> !broadcom | AR45_
[00:07] <AR45_> daftykins: Listen! I'm on my Ubuntu LiveUSB ATM! Which for some funny reason picks up my WIFI NETWORK.
[00:08] <daftykins> AR45_: this is a good thing.
[00:08] <AR45_> daftykins: BUT GUESS WHAT? After  installed and my computer rebooted from the HD. There's NO WIFI NETWORK.
[00:08] <daftykins> AR45_: if the installed version does not, install again but disable 'update whilst installing'
[00:08] <daftykins> AR45_: stop using caps please else i will stop talking to you
[00:09] <AR45_> daftykins: So... I got back on the LiveUSB!
[00:09] <hack13> I am having issues with filezilla not looking correctly in ubuntu unity, I don't know what settings to teak to fix this: http://i.imgur.com/fpuuh8v.png I boxed in red the graphics glitches that are happening. I have ATI 6770 and using fglx-update driver.
[00:10] <AR45_> daftykins: & downloaded `bcmwl-kernel-source` but when I tried to install it needed dkms!
[00:10] <AR45_> daftykins: So now I'm back on the `LiveUSB` and I downloaded dkms.
[00:11] <AR45_> daftykins: but I think I figured it out!
[00:12] <genii> !apt-offline
[00:12]  * genii smacks the bot
[00:12] <daftykins> AR45_: so why are you asking for help if you already have a legitimate approach to solve the problem?
[00:13] <AR45_> daftykins: because I have no idea what im doing?
[00:14] <daftykins> AR45_: you could follow what i suggested, then
[00:15] <AR45_> daftykins: You just sent me a link. With commands to run on a device that has no internet.
[00:15] <stianhj> AR45_: do you have a ethernet cable to get the files you need while not in live?
[00:15] <daftykins> AR45_: ... but you said it works from a live session. you can save a file and transfer it.
[00:15] <AR45_> stianhj: No that's the problem!
[00:15] <daftykins> AR45_: if you're going to be awkward about following things then i'm going to struggle to want to continue.
[00:16] <stianhj> AR45_: or maybe an android device where you can use usb tethering? don't know about iphones but android usb tethering works out of the box for me
[00:16] <AR45_> stianhj: I have a flash drive
[00:16] <genii> !offline
[00:17] <genii> Meh, Synaptic
[00:17] <ObrienDave> it works ;P
[00:18] <AR45_> stianhj: I download http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/fakeroot
[00:18] <AR45_> stianhj: because it's needed for bcmwl
[00:18] <daftykins> i still say reinstall with updates disabled, see lovely working wifi, then update manually
[00:20] <AR45_> daftykins: here is my plan http://imgur.com/yF3PY5d
[00:21] <stianhj> AR45_: kinda agree with daftykins, it's been a long while since if done what your're about to do, but i seem to recall it not being pleasant
[00:21] <stianhj> if you have another machine online, that helps
[00:22] <stianhj> AR45_: but you're pretty far along, so dpkg -i some stuff and see what happens
[00:27] <daftykins> AR45_: out of interest, have you kept OS X beside or is this the only OS?
[00:27] <AR45> crap fakeroot has dependencies!
[00:28] <AR45> Oh shoot! hahah it worked!
[00:28] <AR45> I'm so legend!
[00:28] <daftykins> AR45: out of interest, have you kept OS X beside or is this the only OS?
[00:29] <ashley01> Hello, does Ubuntu 14.04 use Mir or X by default?
[00:29] <AR45> daftykins: wiped it by accident
[00:29] <ashley01> I don't know how to check
[00:29] <AR45> daftykins: time to figure that part out now..
[00:29] <daftykins> ashley01: mir is experimental and not enabled yet.
[00:30] <daftykins> !mir
[00:30] <daftykins> ugh factoid update required
[00:30] <ashley01> thanks
[00:32] <AR45> daftykins: how can i check what graphics card driver i need?
[00:32] <ashley01> AR45: do you use nvidia or amd gpu?
[00:32] <ashley01> and you can go to Software & Updates, it has a tab for drivers
[00:32] <ashley01> 'additional drivers' iirc
[00:33] <daftykins> AR45: ^ same as i'd have said :>
[00:33] <ashley01> i use an ATI card so i get a choice for 1 open-source and 2 proprietary
[00:33] <AR45> ashley01: yes but when i click on them and hit apply changes they don't go, that was the problem with my wireless
[00:34] <daftykins> AR45: tell us what you're being offered. nvidia?
[00:34] <AR45> daftykins: yes nvidia
[00:35] <daftykins> AR45: ok open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "apt-cache search nvidia | pastebinit" and share the URL here
[00:36] <AR45> okay one second so i can will open irc on desktop
[00:38] <daftykins> just type it out by hand, they're short URLs
[00:39] <AR45> daftykins: graphic drivers crashed my computer it had to restart
[00:40] <daftykins> AR45: as in the currently in use driver, or?
[00:40] <daftykins> could do with more information
[00:40] <AR45> daftykins: the currently in use one
[00:40] <daftykins> what made you identify it as the culprit?
[00:42] <AR45> daftykins: the currently in use one
[00:42] <daftykins> what made you identify it as the culprit?
[00:42] <AR45> because the screen freezes completely
[00:42] <daftykins> so it could actually be the kernel as a whole?
[00:43] <AR45> daftykins: it just froze and crashed again...
[00:43] <daftykins> you're not giving me any new information
[00:43] <AR45> daftykins: not sure but things are a bit slow and faulty
[00:46] <AR45> https://i.imgur.com/RpvhhCo.jpg
[00:46] <daftykins> AR45: ok still waiting on the output of the commands shared before, if X keeps failing drop to a TTY instead maybe
[00:46] <AR45> daftykins: look
[00:47] <daftykins> AR45: that is not a pastebin to available nvidia packages
[00:47] <AR45> daftykins: do you think its the kernel?
[00:47] <daftykins> i have no way of knowing until you try some things
[00:48] <daftykins> i'm actually going to have to go, i don't really have time unless you can run things as i say them
[00:51] <AR45_> daftykins: Okay on my desktop.. What would you like me to run?
[00:52] <AR45_> daftykins: My cell phone IRC app seemed to be delaying msgs in/out
[00:52] <daftykins> AR45_: i'm sorry i'm out, i typed commands ages ago
[00:56] <AR45_> daftykins: don't go man it crashed again
[00:56] <AR45_> daftykins: what command do you want to see
[00:56] <AR45_> ?
[00:57] <thurstylark> Is there a way to create a bash one liner that runs two different commands, but allows the output from only one command to the terminal? I tried "commandone & commandtwo" and got the output of both.
[00:58] <AR45_> daftykins: my friend
[00:58] <AR45_> daftykins: I am here
[01:09] <rypervenche> thurstylark: Put "&> /dev/null" after the command you don't want to show on the console.
[01:10] <rypervenche> thurstylark: And put a semi-colon after the first command.
[01:12] <thurstylark> rypervenche: So if I want the first command to be silent, "command1 &> /dev/null; command2"
[01:12] <thurstylark> sound right?
[01:12] <rypervenche> thurstylark: Yep^^ Some older bash versions won't be able to take the &> part, but yours should be fine.
[01:13] <rypervenche> thurstylark: Oh, you'll probably want the & actually instead of ; if you want them to run simultaneously.
[01:13] <dstarh> I need to write a find command that finds all directories over a certain age under a specific path, removes all of the files within the directory and then does an rmdir on the directory itself
[01:14] <thurstylark> rypervenche: Alrighty. Yeah, I'm on 14.04, so it should handle it.
[01:14] <thurstylark> rypervenche: thanks!
[01:14] <dstarh> I've tried the following https://gist.github.com/dstarh/5dd791c24ddb0cdb54a8 and no dice
[01:15] <dstarh> * updated to show output
[01:16] <rypervenche> dstarh: You can do it all in one command, but that is not the correct way.
[01:16] <dstarh> rypervenche: I know i can rm -rf {} but I've been given instructions not to do so
[01:17] <dstarh> i need to specificaly empty the directory then rmdir it
[01:17] <rypervenche> /usr/bin/find /pgbackups/backups/ -mtime +4 -type d -name "nbackup_*" -exec /bin/echo /bin/rm -rf {} \;
[01:17] <rypervenche> dstarh: Why?
[01:18] <dstarh> boss doesn't want cron jobs doing rm -rf
[01:18] <dstarh> regardless of the why, is it possible
[01:19] <rypervenche> It's just as dangerous as doing it your way. Yes it is, but running an asterisk like that, I would say is more dangerous.
[01:20] <dstarh> the asterisk started out as *.dat.gz and *.dat.  There are only 2 types of files within each directory
[01:21] <dstarh> i'm assuming the /bin/rm {}/* is not expanding correctly or something thus getting the file not found errors
[01:23] <rypervenche> I do not believe that is a valid way of doing it, nor would I recommend using an asterisk to remove files. I would tell you to use the -delete option in find. You may have to pipe find into another find command once you have found the directories that you need. Are they only one level deep or are there other directories within them?
[01:25] <dstarh> only one level deep
[01:27] <thurstylark> How do I print what shell is running?
[01:27] <thurstylark> Like, if I'm running bash, what can I run to print that it's running bash?
[01:29] <rypervenche> thurstylark: echo $SHELL
[01:31] <testerer> Does streamup.com work with ubuntu?  It tells me I need to update flash player although I installed the most recent flashplugin.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:31] <rypervenche> dstarh: Really, not using rm -rf is going to make this very hacky. You'll need to run a find command to get a list of directories, then pipe it into a for loop and run another find command to delete the files within each of those directories, and then rmdir the directories.
[01:32] <testerer> i installed the latest libflashplayer.so i mean.
[01:34] <rypervenche> dstarh: Your boss needs to understand that there is no problem with running an rm -rf, so long as your find options are very specific. It's less optimal doing it his way simply because he is afraid. But if he won't listen to you, then you're stuck doing that :/
[01:58] <nevermoreraven> should I kill myself?
[02:00] <L0uk3> Negative. Suicide is never part of the mission. "Front towards enemy."
[02:00] <hipitihop> I have finally allowed update manager to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 process went fine until reboot to complete. Now I am left at Mythbuntu splash/progress screen, no alternate tty sessions, and I can't ssh in either. Suggestions ?
[02:07] <daftykins> !nomodeset | hipitihop
[02:08] <daftykins> hipitihop: i'd be willing to bet any proprietary graphics drivers have not been built for your running kernel, assuming it's even booting
[02:09] <hipitihop> daftykins, prior to upgrade I installed latest 3.16 kernel and all was fine. I had also booted from 14.04 mythbuntu live cd and also was fine, does any of that alter the diagnosis ?
[02:10] <hipitihop> daftykins, although afaik 14.04 standard kernel is 3.13
[02:11] <daftykins> hipitihop: nope and yes, 3.13
[02:12] <hipitihop> daftykins, also final bit of extra info, this is am MSI H97Iac mobo with i5s onboard intel HD graphics
[02:12] <daftykins> hipitihop: ah i see, SSH'able on boot?
[02:13] <hipitihop> daftykins, I can ping but ssh refused
[02:14] <daftykins> hipitihop: i'd boot a live session again, mount the volume... read some logs.
[02:14] <daftykins> hipitihop: truth be told though, i'd nuke it.
[02:16] <hipitihop> daftykins, yeh nuke is preffered but I have a handful of services on which I was really trying to avoid having to rebuild squeezeserver, fusionspbx, ossec server etc
[02:17] <hipitihop> daftykins, also have existing mythtv recordings on same drive
[02:17] <AssociateX> Hello all! Anyone here use Kik messenger on Ubuntu? I have not found any useful links on how to use it yet. Thank you.
[02:19] <daftykins> hipitihop: on a nice sensible separate partition/disk from the OS though right? right? :)
[02:20] <Guest38777> join #sexo
[02:21] <AssociateX>  Guest38777 has quit (Client Quit) but we still have  Guest10736 Guest2647 Guest30141 Guest32601__ Guest44386 Guest49899 Guest58004 Guest59421 Guest72470 Guest7367 Guest81126 Guest9800
[02:22] <daftykins> AssociateX: feel free to report it in #ubuntu-ops - but they're not necessarily all bots or miscreants
[02:22] <hipitihop> daftykins, yes it seems the standard myth install sets up an ext3 boot part and an extended parts with swap and xfs
[02:23] <daftykins> hipitihop: that's not enough to separate media though, hmm. anywho logs should shed light! do you get GRUB? try another kernel also.
[02:24] <hipitihop> daftykins, nonetheless I'm not sure where the db is kept ... grrr this is turning out to be more work then I wanted... will see if there is a previous kernel in grub menu
[02:28] <kuld> hi i uploaded my site files and gave permission to anonymous users allowed to read the files but i cant see any pictures when i go to my website. Anything i can do to fix this?
[02:29] <kuld> help?
[02:29] <daftykins> you're in the wrong channel
[02:29] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server or find the channel for apache
[02:31] <hipitihop> daftykins, I tried a <ctrlr><alt><delete> on the mythbuntu splash/progress and the boot continued and I'm so leave with me to investigate remaining issues. Thanks for trying
[02:33] <kuld> \dafty
[02:33] <kuld> no one answers me there
[02:33] <daftykins> and in the apache channel?
[02:34] <daftykins> kuld: the problem is i can already see that what you've said is totally wrong, configuring your site's permissions has nothing to do with 'anonymous access' - so you really need to put the time in to learn how to operate a web server properly
[02:34] <daftykins> kuld: you couldn't just come here the day your site and system gets hacked and expect someone to piece it all back together for you :)
[02:34] <somsip> kuld: what's the URL
[02:34] <kuld> how do i pm
[02:34] <kuld> someone
[02:35] <somsip> kuld: you don't unless they invite you to
[02:35] <kuld> ok
[02:35] <kuld> the site is ruda.ca
[02:35] <kuld> it isnt showing any images
[02:36] <kuld> ive tried fixing this for 2 days now
[02:36] <kyonsalt> I got a strange problem about swap: ubuntu 14 server. device-mapper: ioctl: Unable to change name on mapped device cryptswap1_unformatted to one that already exists: cryptswap1. so the server can't do swap on.
[02:36] <kyonsalt> I got a strange problem about swap: ubuntu 14 server. device-mapper: ioctl: Unable to change name on mapped device cryptswap1_unformatted to one that already exists: cryptswap1. so the server can't do swap on.
[02:36] <Guest39573> Anyone have any proplems with pipelight, a silverlight alternitive?
[02:37] <Guest39573> join
[02:37] <daftykins> kuld: http://ruda.ca/images/u233-r.png
[02:37] <daftykins> that file doesn't exist or your permissions are wrong
[02:37] <somsip> kuld: You don't have permission to access /images/ on this server.
[02:37] <kuld> ok
[02:37] <kuld> hold on
[02:38] <kuld> try again
[02:39] <daftykins> nope.
[02:39] <somsip> kuld: no, you try again
[02:39] <kuld> wtf
[02:39] <kuld> how do i give permission
[02:39] <kuld> it says 777 on filezilla
[02:39] <daftykins> kuld: like i said, you need to learn how to do this properly
[02:39] <daftykins> you should not be 777'ing files.
[02:39] <kuld> 744* i eman
[02:39] <kuld> mean
[02:39] <daftykins> there's also ownership as well as permissions
[02:40] <kuld> ..
[02:40] <daftykins> ellipses do not communicate a question
[02:41] <kuld> dafty do i have to enter some command into ubuntu server to give permissions
[02:41] <daftykins> kuld: you're still ignoring my comments on web server administration. you need to study this and learn for yourself
[02:41] <MaineGyrl99> hi all
[02:42] <daftykins> else you won't have a clue how to fix it in future
[02:42] <daftykins> hello
[02:42] <kuld> ive been trying is there a tutorial i can read?
[02:42] <daftykins> MaineGyrl99: do you have a question?
[02:43] <daftykins> kuld: use the documentation website for the web server you're using.
[02:55] <kuld> dafty
[02:55] <daftykins> that's me.
[02:55] <kuld> how do i enable editing  when i do sudo vi  /etc/vsftpd.conf in ubuntu server
[02:56] <daftykins> i don't use vi.
[02:56] <kuld> o
[02:56] <kuld> what do you use
[02:56] <daftykins> nano
[02:56] <kuld> ok ill try that
[02:56] <somsip> kuld: you change to editing mode by pressing an editing command key
[02:56] <kuld> what key is that
[02:56] <kuld> <---noob
[02:56] <Svetlana> "i" but vi is hard, better to start with nano as it has labels for commands
[02:57] <somsip> kuld: there are many depending on what you want to do - i a r R c c s S. Don't use vi if you don't know.
[02:58] <kuld> what do i change so it shows images
[02:59] <daftykins> i already told you you need to learn to web server admin correctly, not get answers handed to you
[03:00] <jtri> hello, du is failing on large directory, any ideas?  ls -la fails too, both return zero
[03:01] <kuld> give me a hint lol
[03:02] <auscompgeek> kuld: if you had the documentation open you wouldn't need a "hint"
[03:02] <kuld> i have
[03:03] <kuld> im using ubuntu pdf file
[03:03] <kuld> is this the right thing?
[03:03] <kuld> To allow users with a shell of /usr/sbin/nologin access to FTP, but have no shell access, edit /etc/ shells adding the nologin shell: # /etc/shells: valid login shells /bin/csh /bin/sh /usr/bin/es /usr/bin/ksh /bin/ksh /usr/bin/rc /usr/bin/tcsh /bin/tcsh /usr/bin/esh /bin/dash /bin/bash /bin/rbash /usr/bin/screen /usr/sbin/nologin
[03:04] <kamkam> exit
[03:05] <kuld> do i have to edit this 2.3. NFS Client Configuration
[03:09] <nevermoreraven> should I kill myself?
[03:09] <auscompgeek> nevermoreraven: probably not.
[03:09] <somsip> nevermoreraven: read the alt-suicide FAQ
[03:10] <auscompgeek> somsip: wait, alt.suicide is a thing?
[03:10] <kamkam> CAn instsall firewalk on ubuntu?
[03:11] <daftykins> !info firewalk
[03:11] <daftykins> kamkam: the one that's part of nmap?
[03:12] <kamkam> no daftykins
[03:12] <daftykins> kamkam: seems like a no then, you might have to look for a PPA
[03:13] <kamkam> daftykins: OK thanks. D
[03:16] <auscompgeek> kamkam: just curious, what exactly is firewalk?
[03:18] <rypervenche> http://packetfactory.openwall.net/projects/firewalk/
[03:18] <rypervenche> A tool for determining a firewall's rule set
[03:22] <somsip> auscompgeek: yes, and well OT here
[03:23] <auscompgeek> somsip: indeed.
[03:23] <kamkam> rypervenche: thank a lot :)
[03:24] <kuld> dafty
[03:24] <daftykins> no.
[03:25] <kuld> i did sudo chmod -R 644 /var/www/html/
[03:25] <kuld> would this work?
[03:26] <kamkam> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-pc-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-pc' not recognized
[03:26] <kamkam> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-pc-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-pc' not recognized
[03:26] <n-iCe> hello guys, when will be the new ubuntu version released?
[03:26] <somsip> !14.10 | n-iCe
[03:27] <n-iCe> Yes, but when, day :p
[03:27] <somsip> n-iCe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[03:27] <n-iCe> thanks!
[03:27] <farva> good afternoon everyone
[03:28] <n-iCe> 26
[03:28] <n-iCe> I have been a fedora user, will the change surprise me?
[03:29] <farva> I need to transfer files from one dedi to another, I have all the login info-but how do I go about the commands?
[03:29] <farva> I did this once and just can't recall how
[03:29] <somsip> n-iCe: install the live DVD and find out for yourself
[03:29] <somsip> farva: dedi?
[03:29] <tuxbrave> Has anyone set up Xen Hypervisor before using a interface bridge to assigning an external IP to a Virtual Machine for instace my Laptop ip is 192.168.0.3, I would the machine running in Xen Hypervisor had the IP 192.168.0.7.  I am using an Ubuntu 14.04 with an Wifi dongle (wlan3). Any help is appreciated.
[03:29] <farva> dedicated server
[03:30] <somsip> farva: scp I would imagine
[03:30] <farva> could you give me an example? I am 2 months in on linux commands
[03:30] <somsip> farva: scp user@host1:/path/to/file user@host2:/destination/path/
[03:31] <farva> do I need to put in a password there anywhere?
[03:31] <Snake2k> n-iCe: I'd say stay with 14.04... It's stable, unless you want cutting-edge, then go with the most latest version (which can be a pain to maintain for people).
[03:31] <somsip> farva: when it prompts you
[03:31] <farva> ahh gotcha
[03:31] <farva> last question, how do I set my DNS again? There is a file I can edit...
[03:31] <somsip> farva: or ssh to one server (ssh user@host1) and scp /path/to/local/file user@host2:/destination/)
[03:32] <farva> okay =]
[03:38] <AR45_> switched to propertary nvidia drivers, rebooted and now my screen is just black.. but the computer is on
[03:39] <gartral> AR45_: what card?
[03:40] <AR45_> gartral: tell me commnd to run in terminal and I'll let you know
[03:41] <gartral> AR45_: lspci | grep VGA
[03:42] <AR45_> gartral: http://sprunge.us/LGHT
[03:44] <farva> found the DNS setting I was looking for /etc/hosts
[03:48] <gartral> AR45_: ahh... run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:49] <yufw> why my setxkbmap command in .profile is not taking effect?
[03:50] <gartral> AR45_: that won't give any output, once it's done run rm -rf ./.Xauthority and then reboot with sudo reboot
[03:51] <AR45_> gartral: http://sprunge.us/HaUa
[03:51] <farva> somsip: I am not getting this right, I need to copy entire directories and all containing files
[03:51] <AR45_> gartral: Perhaps I should mention that my screen goes black and I can't use my computer at all. I had to boot the LiveUSB
[03:51] <gartral> AR45_: blank paste
[03:51] <somsip> farva: -R for recursive (man scp for details)
[03:51] <farva> and it is telling me connection denied
[03:52] <gartral> AR45_: oh.. is this your only computer?
[03:52] <somsip> farva: make sure you can ssh to each host individually to check your user/pass first
[03:52] <farva> ssh farva@host:/home/farva/testserver/minecraft -R farva@host:/home/farva/minecraft
[03:52] <AR45_> gartral: yes how do I access the terminal before boot?
[03:52] <farva> I can connect to ssh on my filezilla
[03:52] <AR45_> gartral: I have irc on my cellphone we can communicate
[03:52] <farva> if that is what you mean
[03:53] <somsip> farva: I posted the ssh commmand earlier. I don't know hoe filezilla works with ssh. If you use the command line you know what you are entering
[03:53] <gartral> AR45_: you don't but you SHOULD be ablt to hit ctrl-alt-F2 and get to a terminal-only session where you can log in and run those two commands
[03:54] <AR45_> gartral: will give it a try
[03:55] <gartral> AR45_: switch off to your phone, too, for good measure
[03:55] <farva> somsip:  how do I specify the port? it is trying to connect me to 22, but my ssh port is not default
[03:56] <farva> I tried ssh name@host:port
[03:56] <farva> and that got me no where
[03:56] <somsip> farva: man scp. you use -P for port
[03:57] <farva> I hate to ask for examples, but I don't know anything about this stuff...I am in way over my head could you be more specific please? I am aftraid of messing things up badly =[
[03:57] <SASDOE> hey all, how can I create an optional VPN interface? optionnal as in I would like all services to run by default on eth0 and only have specific services running behind VPN?
[03:58] <somsip> farva: then read the manual.
[03:58] <farva> its like reading latin man, I don't know this stuff. I understaind what it is trying to tell me, but I don't know the order
[03:58] <SASDOE> On ubuntu server. Last time I tried all traffic was sent to tun0, which is not what I want
[03:59] <SchrodingersScat> farva: you said you had used the command, try: history | grep -i servername | more ##where servername is whatever you were connecting to, maybe you'll find the command?
[04:00] <gartral> farva: a good place to start is man man, it's a manual that tells you how to read the manuals
[04:00] <AR45> gartral:
[04:00] <somsip> farva: if you want to know how to access a port, type 'man scp' then use / to search and type 'port' and it shows to use -P.
[04:00] <Guest18447> send list of programs to download
[04:00] <farva> we transfered files using wget cuz my old host didn't want to give us ftp access
[04:00] <AR45> gartral: couldn't get in like that will do a clean install
[04:00] <gartral> AR45: wait
[04:01] <farva> ty guys for the useful info =]
[04:01] <somsip> farva: then you ssh to one and wget from the other. But that's the first time you've said these were files served by a web server
[04:01] <AR45> gartral: also im on a macbook pro 7,1 (2010)
[04:01] <gartral> AR45: do you have something like a 30-second wait before the system actually "boots up"
[04:01] <farva> maybe I was not clear, I have a dedicated server, and I am upgrading to a new machine, I run ubuntu on both
[04:01] <AR45> gartral: yes
[04:02] <Guest18447> photoshop for linux what should i use
[04:02] <somsip> farva: dedicated servers can be anything. I still think you should use scp though
[04:02] <farva> yea, reading up on it, it seems the safest option
[04:03] <xangua> Guest18447: gimp, pinta, krita maybe
[04:05] <gartral> AR45: at the white screen start holding left shift.. you'll (hopefully) be presented with a GRUB page, drop down to to the Recovery Mode entry and try that...
[04:05] <MACscr> my 12.04.5 LTS server has a 3.2 kernel, but im being told by zimbra that 3.0 to 3.9 isnt supported and supposedly canonical doesnt even support them anymore and its only 3.13 and above as of august. If thats the case, why isnt apt-get upgrade seeing the newer kernel?  All the instructions im seeing for updating the kernel are for installing the raring or another releases kernel on an precise syste
[04:05] <MACscr> m and thats obviously not correct. Suggestions?
[04:05] <farva> well...the manual is pretty useless to me, I don't know what it is talking about with protocols or what I am supposed to deduce from the synopsis...I know you guys are trying to teach my how to fish, but I don't know how to tie the hook on the line here
[04:06] <farva> so I understand scp name@host:dir/from name@host:dir/to
[04:06] <farva> but how do I add the port to that?
[04:06] <xangua> MACscr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[04:06] <xangua> you can already install the trusty kernel/video drivers
[04:07] <somsip> farva: scp -P {port number} Are both ports different?
[04:07] <farva> they are the same
[04:07] <MACscr> my bad, didnt mention that its a virtual machien with a virtual kernel
[04:07] <MACscr> 3.2.0-31-virtual irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:36:36 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:07] <MACscr> so the enablement stack wouldnt apply
[04:08] <farva> so the whole string would be: scp -P port user@host:dir/from -R user@host:dir/to
[04:08] <MACscr> and installing a trusty kernel is not obviously an official and supported Precise kernel
[04:08] <xangua> it is in ubuntu official repositories so it is
[04:09] <AR45> gartral: no luck
[04:09] <somsip> farva: yes, though usually -P and -R would be together. Most commands are happy if they are split, but some complain if one is interspersed with required arguments, so best to get into good habits.
[04:09] <somsip> farva: scp -P port -R ...etc...
[04:09] <farva> gotcha, thanks for the correction =]
[04:09] <MACscr> having it in an official ubuntu repo has nothing to do it being LTS
[04:10] <MACscr> Im running Precise and i can only use Precise kernels
[04:10] <AR45> gartral: this is a complicated problem
[04:10] <MACscr> i use ksplice, so i cant use any other kernels
[04:10] <MACscr> besides what is supported for Precise
[04:11] <gartral> AR45: ok then... re install, but run those commands I gave you BEFORE you reboot after installing the nvidia drivers.. for reference they are "sudo nvidia-xconfig" "rm -rf ./.Xauthority"
[04:11] <AR45> gartral: appreciate the effort.. hopefully it works
[04:12] <SASDOE> Can I do something like freebsd multiple routing tables? Ie by default use eth0, and specify what apps should use tun0 (vpn) interface?
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: apt-cache search routing show a few interesting
[04:15] <kamkam> exit
[04:16] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: your end goal is to tunnel specific apps trough the vpn only?
[04:18] <farva> somsip:  when I use option -R after my port it tells me it is an illegal option, when I put it after the directory I am pulling files from, it tells me there is no such directory...what am I doing wrong? http://gyazo.com/50c1856538296fb1adf3e5b97167727b
[04:18] <SASDOE> lewq:
[04:18] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: yes.
[04:19] <SASDOE> By default all traffic goes to vpn interface, and I would like to avoid that.
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: so we need a tunneling package
[04:21] <__unik> Hi. Can someone tell me what the best voice rec program (open source)
[04:21] <__unik> is
[04:21] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: The app is run by a specific user, does that help?
[04:22] <mircocrocop> hey
[04:23] <mircocrocop> can anyone help me pls
[04:24] <dupingping> Hi
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | mircocrocop
[04:24] <dupingping> How to get CDROM cache size?
[04:25] <dupingping> No man here only bots?
[04:25] <somsip> farva: very sorry - recursive is -r on scp. It always throws me as it's -R with cp. My bad
[04:25] <farva> oh gotcha thank you =]
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !patience | dupingping
[04:26] <cfhowlett> __unik, "real" = no such thing = so many choices.  look in the software center.  audacity is quite popular.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: not sure wich one you need specific, that bird package seems interesting
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !info bird | SASDOE
[04:27] <farva> somsip:  I just get all the fun tonight, now I get this error about a config option: http://gyazo.com/6f8be2e28bdf034e4fff0c06f9b86da2
[04:27] <sqwaw> I was wondering is there's a way to warn about logged in, unattended tty[1..6] to tty7/GUI ?
[04:27] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: I'll look into it, cheers
[04:29] <mircocrocop> i am having trouble getting mv command to work and idk why. it is taking a lot of time although its move in same partition. for example i do mv /c/stuff/* /c/news. /c/ is mounted as is and is the root mount. I've also been using chroot after i mounted it
[04:29] <somsip> farva: no idea about those. I'd suggest commenting them out in /etc/ssh/ssh_config as they don't look vital to security
[04:29] <farva> ok
[04:29] <dupingping> How to get CDROM's cache size?
[04:29] <__unik> cfhowlett: I am looking for voice recognition program. (speech to text)
[04:30] <sqwaw> farva: I'm not sure if the file is cAsE sensitive or not
[04:30] <cfhowlett> __unik, ah.  different animal
[04:30] <dupingping> __unik: dejavu?
[04:30] <farva> did you see something I may have mistyped?
[04:30] <sqwaw> farva: casing in the man page is as followS: ClientAliveCountMax ClientAliveInterval
[04:30] <somsip> __unik: ISTR wiki has a page on voice recognition software. Probably a good start from scratch
[04:31] <__unik> somsip thanks
[04:31] <sqwaw> farva: Like I said, not sure if it's case sensitive or not, but yours was all lower case. Give it a show.
[04:31] <farva> ok =]
[04:31] <sqwaw> shot*.
[04:31] <farva> though, I know I didn't change it lol I can give it a go
[04:31] <somsip> farva: looks like some bad editing by a previous user
[04:32] <sqwaw> farva: from the man page:  (note that keywords are case-insensitive and arguments are case-sensitive)
[04:32] <sqwaw> so not sure that helps.
[04:33] <farva> =]
[04:36] <farva> somsip: it is now telling me that it cannot connect to the default port on my destination IP, my string is: scp -P port -r farva@host:/home/farva/testserver/minecraft farva@host:/home/farva/minecraft
[04:36] <farva> both ports are the same, I checked them both in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:36] <somsip> farva: ssh to one and then scp from the other.
[04:37] <farva> okay, then how does that look?
[04:37] <farva> this is so confusing...why can;t I just copy it over =[
[04:37] <peawormsworth> When I do an md5sum on ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, I get something other than what is shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A14.04_LTS
[04:38] <somsip> farva: ssh -p port user@destination-host then cd /path/to/folder/ and scp -P port -r user@source-host:/source/path/ ./
[04:38] <__unik> farva: whats your problem?
[04:39] <farva> __unik:  somsip  is helping me, its just tedious and confusing lol
[04:39] <somsip> farva: you are using a number instead of 'port' aren't you?
[04:39] <__unik> farva ok
[04:39] <farva> yes
[04:39] <somsip> k
[04:40] <farva> so how does this work I don't understand...should I be on the destination server running these commands or the original server? do I need to do this from both sides?
[04:41] <somsip> farva: you either ssh to the destination and scp to 'copy files from source to here' or ssh to the source and scp to 'copy these files to that server over there'
[04:46] <peawormsworth> my md5sum for 14.04-1 does not match what is shown online.
[04:47] <somsip> peawormsworth: download it again
[04:47] <cfhowlett> peawormsworth, don't use it.  download with .torrent
[04:47] <peawormsworth> k thanks. I'll use other methods.
[04:47] <peawormsworth> yup. will do.
[04:48] <farva> somsip:  so I have the ssh to scp down, but when I go to copy the files, it keeps telling me that the connection is refused on port 22, but we are telling it port 3927
[04:48] <peawormsworth> ...and also... why is the download page http and not ssl? seems my browser could be more certain about spoofing if ssl was used.
[04:48] <bajin-lee> hi
[04:48] <farva> http://gyazo.com/4e2b660ce09a99ee5a90164464abd30e
[04:49] <bajin-lee> i want to know how to install a software by using src
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !source | bajin-lee
[04:50] <bajin-lee> ubottu, thanks,i'll have a try
[04:51] <somsip> farva: looks like you must use SSH when both servers use non-standard ports. So either ssh to one server and scp from/to the other, or you're wrapping the scp in an ssh command which is adding complexity ssh -p XXX user@host scp -P XXX /file user@otherhost:/otherfile
[04:51] <bajin-lee> ubottu,thank you anyway
[04:51] <farva> I was connected with ssh from my destination
[04:51] <farva> I guess, try it the other way around?
[04:53] <somsip> farva: i couldn't see that from the paste. There is no need to specify the server if the file is local to the server. Just scp -P {other server port} -r /path/locally user@other-server:/path/remotely
[04:54] <farva> ok
[04:54] <farva> ty =]
[04:54] <farva> (fingers crossed)
[04:54] <somsip> farva: that to put it from this server to that server. scp -P {port} -r user@otherserver:path /this/server/path to do it the other way
[04:54] <farva> kk =]
[05:00] <farva> somsip: connection timed out
[05:01] <farva> going from the source to the target
[05:01] <somsip> farva: I can't help you with that one. Maybe that's the KeepAlive setting in the ssh_config. Did you comment them out or correct them?
[05:01] <farva> I commented them out, I can add them back in
[05:01] <neurotus> why cant 'ubuntu mono'-font show unicode heart in irssi ?
[05:02] <neurotus> is there a modified version ?
[05:02] <somsip> farva: worth a try. Have you found the correct setting...with caps?
[05:02] <farva> I know where it is yes, I just forgot the times to put in there
[05:03] <whzddoutput> excuse me. how to use netstat to know some application  that sending our data when internet connection is active?
[05:04] <whzddoutput> and how to block the data sending?
[05:04] <somsip> !ufw | whzddoutput
[05:06] <whzddoutput> somsip, thx.
[05:07] <farva> somsip: didn't work
[05:08] <somsip> farva: still timeout?
[05:08] <farva> it gave me the error from them being present
[05:08] <farva> I had to edit them out, and so yes, still timing out
[05:09] <somsip> farva: that's very poor. Is it a crap host?
[05:09] <farva> no, I never have network issues with them
[05:09] <farva> I have a feeling it is something I have set some where...being new and all, I probably messed something up
[05:09] <somsip> farva: is this your connection to them, or connection between them?
[05:10] <farva> connection between
[05:11] <whzddoutput> somsip, when i try gufw but show in my screen :the application '/usr/share/gufw/gufw.py' lets you modify essential parts of your system. \n is it danger to my system?
[05:12] <somsip> farva: any way you could transfer smaller directories each time? Otherwise you'd need something like rsync (resumable transfers). But to lose connections is not good at all. Maybe the hosting company can explain why? Maybe they enforce a timeout?
[05:12] <somsip> whzddoutput: I can't help you with it. I just know it exists
[05:13] <whzddoutput> someone, ok no problem. thx sir
[05:13] <whzddoutput> * somsip, ok no problem. thx sir
[05:13] <whzddoutput> someone, sory .
[05:13] <farva> that was my plan actually, to break it up, this is a quarter of our files, with only maybe 10 gigs
[05:14] <nevermoreraven> this is my sister http://ur1.ca/ib2fi
[05:15] <somsip> farva: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1120095/split-files-using-tar-gz-zip-or-bzip2 (still poor that you should have to do it)
[05:15] <Logan_> nevermoreraven: please keep discussion on-topic to Ubuntu
[05:15] <somsip> nevermoreraven: stop it
[05:16] <farva> I did not have to do that last time...hmmm
[05:18] <farva> somsip: I figured it out, with my copy/paste, I messed up my target IP
[05:18] <farva> fixed it and it is copying just fine now!
[05:18] <somsip> farva: woo
[05:18] <farva> thank you for the help
[05:19] <somsip> farva: np
[05:19] <farva> now I know quite a bit more about ssh
[05:20] <somsip> farva: like ssh and scp and cp have annoying differences in -p -P, -r and -R...
[05:20] <farva> yea, its a bit annoying they don't have a standard
[05:21] <somsip> farva: all part of the challenge
[05:21] <physixer> any helpful links/resources to neuter my ubuntu installation? i.e., turn it into lfs plus xorg plus i3wm?
[05:21] <farva> xD
[05:21] <physixer> sorta
[05:21] <somsip> physixer: by lfs do you mean Linux From Scratch?
[05:21] <physixer> somsip: yes
[05:21] <somsip> physixer: then you misunderstand what LFS is about
[05:22] <physixer> somsip: i just mean minimalize my ubuntu. remove ubuntu-desktop etc
[05:22] <cfhowlett> physixer,
[05:22] <cfhowlett> !mini
[05:23] <somsip> physixer: yeah - easier to build up from minimal than to pare down from a full install. Though ISTR a page on pychocats (pyschonauts?) that suggests how to remove stuff
[05:24] <somsip> physixer: google "psychocats remove ubuntu" and see what might help you on there. too many to link to the right one by chance
[05:24] <physixer> cfhowlett, somsip: ok if I have to do a reinstall, I'd need an easy way to generate a list of packages I manually installed, so that I can reinstall them on new installation
[05:24] <cfhowlett> physixer, dpkg -l         will list your packages
[05:25] <physixer> cfhowlett: doesn't that list 'all' packages, that's a huge list for me
[05:26] <somsip> physixer: something like this *may* work https://kura.io/2010/07/02/using-dpkg-selections-to-backup-and-install-packages/
[05:26] <icloud> I want to try out xnomad w dmenu however the install is est to be 500mb...is this right? i thought xnomad is very lightweight
[05:26] <cfhowlett> physixer, cat /var/log/dpkg* | grep "\ installed\ "
[05:28] <physixer> also I'm kinda afraid of doing a reinstall a 4-year old install (installed 10.04 then upgraded to 12.04 then upgraded to 14.04). I have moved my home dir to a separate partition. Any issues to watch out for?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> physixer, "old" equipmment = lubuntu or xubuntu.  lubuntu is optimized for older / lower specification hardware
[05:29] <malkauns> how do u enable hibernate in ubuntu server (not desktop)?
[05:30] <physixer> cfhowlett: thanks.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> physixer, happy2help
[05:30] <sqwaw> I was wondering is there's a way to warn about logged in, unattended tty[1..6] to tty7/GUI or another place.
[05:31] <systemclient> I just set up a Kubuntu with “guided encrypted LVM” and it seems to work just fine. Is that done with LUKS in the background, meaning that the AES module in the Intel i5 can work such that I do not have a CPU impact?
[05:32] <rww> yes, it uses LUKS
[05:32] <systemclient> sqwaw: check `w` or `who` for other logins. You could write a script to parse that output
[05:32] <systemclient> rww: Is there a reson why it uses a LVM and not a plain encrypted partition?
[05:32] <sqwaw> wow, why didn't i realize that. sometimes the simplest is the easiest :)
[05:32] <rww> systemclient: so that there can be multiple partitions inside it. e.g. / and swap
[05:33] <systemclient> sqwaw: yeah, the old tools are very powerful. Old often means mature :-)
[05:33] <ObrienDave> i'm mature, err, old ;P
[05:33] <systemclient> rww: ah, so it is an encrypted partition with a LVM with multiple partitions. Seems like a good idea :-)
[05:35] <systemclient> rww: is there a way to disable swap in that LVM in the default isntaller? Guess I have to use the text installer then?
[05:39] <delt> Hello
[05:39] <delt> trying to compile a simple program that uses XOpenDisplay() .... getting error: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
[05:39] <delt> actually, trying to compile simple programs i wrote on slackware, gives errors for each X11 function used in those programs
[05:39] <delt> this seems to fail at the linking phase -- collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[05:39]  * delt stumped :( :(
[05:42] <delt> :(
[05:42] <ObrienDave> this is a Ubuntu support issue because.....????
[05:44] <delt> because it works on slackware and not ubuntu
[05:45] <delt> libx11-dev is already the newest version.
[05:45] <AR45> well i give up trying to install ubuntu on mac
[05:46] <gartral> AR45: sorry bud >.>
[05:46] <AR45> gartral: hey your there, it goes blank again
[05:47] <gartral> even with the instructions I gave you?
[05:47] <AR45> gartral: but I found my recovery mode
[05:47] <wal> Hello
[05:47] <AR45> gartral: yes
[05:48] <wal> I from Argentina. I speak spanish. is there chanels in spanish?
[05:48] <AR45> gartral: however I found the grub recovery option
[05:48] <delt> !es
[05:48] <gartral> AR45: does it blank in that, too?
[05:48] <wal> Graciassssssss!!!
[05:49] <AR45> gartral: no
[05:49] <gartral> is that where you ran both those commands from?
[05:51] <AR45> gartral: No.
[05:51] <AR45> gartral: When I reinstalled the OS I logged in and ran them after installing the NVDIA Drivers.
[05:52] <gartral> AR45: you said it was a macbook pro.. yea?
[05:52] <AR45> gartral: but at the moment I have access to the root shell prompt.
[05:52] <AR45> gartral: Yes a MacBook Pro
[05:52] <gartral> AR45: you do? from the live cd/usb or the installed system?
[05:53] <AR45> gartral: from the installed system
[05:53] <gartral> mmmmk.. I take it a third install attempt?
[05:57] <shiv> hi any one help me to install ns2
[05:58] <somsip> shiv: what is ns2?
[05:58] <shiv> hi
[05:59] <shiv> quit
[06:00] <shiv> shiv
[06:01] <AR45> gartral: https://i.imgur.com/upNa3Mo.jpg
[06:01] <AR45> gartral: it's read only :(
[06:02] <gartral> ahh... recovery mode, one sec
[06:02] <AR45> ubuntu run on Mac or what.. been two days and still stuck on this
[06:02] <gartral> AR45: mount -o remount,rw /
[06:04] <gartral> AR45: Apple hardware is a pain in the... well.. I can't finish that here, but it is possible to get it working.. it's just not as easy as a regular computer..
[06:08] <AR45> gartral: I did that command, it didn't return anything.
[06:09] <gartral> AR45: good, now run nvidia-xconfig again
[06:10] <AR45> gartral: done
[06:10] <gartral> AR45: no errors?
[06:10] <AR45> gartral: no none
[06:11] <AR45> gartral: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook_Pro_7,1#Nvidia
[06:11] <AR45> gartral: read the very bottom
[06:13] <gartral> AR45: good to note, however let's continue... next run rm /home/<your-username>/.Xauthority
[06:13] <systemclient> Do you know whether this “guided encrypted LVM” will enable TRIM when installed on a SSD?
[06:14] <penguin1> hello good day everyone!
[06:14] <AR45> gartral: No such file or directory.
[06:14] <penguin1> need your help!
[06:15] <penguin1> anyone knows how can I update bash in ubuntu server 11.10 ?
[06:15] <gartral> AR45: are you replacing the <your-username> bit of that command with the username you chose? :P
[06:15] <somsip> !11.10 | penguin1
[06:16] <somsip> penguin1: way out of support. Best to replace it with somethign that is not affected by the exploit
[06:16] <SASDOE> penguin1: you could always download from source, compile (make) and install with dpkg -i bash[vnumber].deb
[06:16] <gartral> penguin1: hit up #ubuntu-server
[06:16] <SASDOE> But yes update distro
[06:16] <AR45> gartral: yes ofc
[06:17] <penguin1> SASDOE: do you have a link where I can update ubuntu server 11.10 from source?
[06:17] <gartral> AR45: does the command ls -la /home/<you>/ | grep .Xa dhow anything?
[06:19] <SASDOE> penguin1: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/ but why don't you update? You are probably vulnerable to many other vulns. Update distro.
[06:19] <AR45> gartral: shows nothing
[06:20] <penguin1> SASDOE:thanks for the link. if I will update bash alone, does it have impact to other running services like mysql-server, apache2 and etc. since it's already EOL ?
[06:22] <gartral> AR45: ok, then that's actually a good thing.. and was a matter of precaution. does less /etc/X11/xorg.conf show anything?
[06:23] <iscorpion> hello guys please tell me is it to possible to run .bat file on linux?
[06:23] <Guest-6473> on windows emulator most likely
[06:23] <iscorpion> sorry for ma poor english m only 13years old
[06:23] <gartral> iscorpion: as in, windows batch files?
[06:23] <iscorpion> yes
[06:23] <SASDOE> penguin1: Shouldn't, but as I said, updating bash alone is pretty much useless security wise if you stay on 11.10. Many vulns have been discovered since. But hey you seem pretty confident, good luck.
[06:24] <Guest-6473> .sh files do the same thing, easier might be to rewrite it
[06:24] <AR45> gartral: yes yes it does
[06:24] <iscorpion> AR45 : HOW?
[06:25] <AR45> gartral: shows x configuration file generated by nvidia-config
[06:25] <gartral> iscorpion: simple answer; No.. but depending on what it does you may be able to write a corrisponfing shell script. longer answer; not and have it do exactly what you'ed expect, unless it just launches an application...
[06:25] <gartral> iscorpion: AR45 was talking to me
[06:25] <penguin1> SASDOE: I'm worrying in upgrading the live production server into a new distro, because I can't guess if it will works properly after the upgrade
[06:26] <iscorpion> gatral: i just want to install cwm using linux on android
[06:26] <iscorpion> cwm has .bat file
[06:26] <SASDOE> penguin1: That's what virtual machines are for
[06:26] <ptaszynka> How to paste something into shell ?
[06:26] <SASDOE> ptaszynka: if your shell supports it: shift-ctrl-p
[06:27] <SASDOE> ptaszynka: shift-ctrl-v sorry
[06:27] <SASDOE> If in gnu screen, do ctrl-[ first
[06:27] <SASDOE> s/shell/terminal
[06:27] <penguin1> SASDOE: by the way, what is the best utility in backing up VM's in ubuntu using kvm as virtual machine host?
[06:28] <gartral> AR45: GOOD! hit Q, and type "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" find the section called "Section "Device"" and add this line to the bottom of it. Capitolization is very important here, make sure you write it correctly. Ctrl-O then Ctrl-X will write the change and close the file respectively     Option  "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[06:28] <SASDOE> penguin1: No idea but I'm pretty sure google has the answer.
[06:29] <penguin1> SASDOE: haha!, by the way what are you using as virtual machine host?
[06:29] <iscorpion> thanks all i will try to learn shell scripts
[06:29] <iscorpion> exit
[06:30] <gartral> penguin1: everything will work fine except for hosted websites, which will need updated configuration..
[06:31] <penguin1> gartal:can you give me sample VM backup utility?
[06:31] <AR45> gartral: done (but I did these steps before fyi)
[06:33] <gartral> penguin1: what are you using for virtualization?
[06:33] <penguin1> gartral: I'm using qemu-kvm
[06:35] <gartral> penguin1: ugh..
[06:36] <donix> hello
[06:36] <gartral> penguin1: http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/CreateSnapshot
[06:36] <donix> problem: When playing files on VLC media player video quality seems reduced from previous versions.
[06:37] <donix> running Kubuntu 14.10
[06:37] <donix> is this a problem with my download or could there be something wrong with graphics driver?
[06:38] <gartral> AR45: really? hrm..
[06:38] <donix> when video plays with intense motion there are streaks across the screen, and even with 720p + files the quality seems blurry and choppy
[06:38] <penguin1> thanks for that info gartral!
[06:38] <AR45> gartral: so what now?
[06:38] <gartral> AR45: looking..
[06:42] <gartral> AR45: I'm not seeing much.. so my recomendation now is reboot and cross your fingers :/ I'm out of ideas
[06:42] <jbj1> anyone having problems with apt repos? I'm trying do-release-upgrade and seeing: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main Translation-en_US
[06:43] <cfhowlett> !saucy | jbj1,
[06:43] <gartral> AR45: also, before you go, keep in mind that make a point of not touch apple hardware/software with a ten-meter pole if I can avoid it, fer more-or-less precisely this reason..
[06:44] <jbj1> ahh ok, so that's why the upgrade script was failing... hmmm, so I wonder if I should just let the upgrade proceed...
[06:44] <AR45> gartral: and x crashed again.. now I have to figure out how to install ubuntu without efi mode or something of the sort
[06:44] <cfhowlett> AR45, sad to say, but I agree with gartral.  my 2009 dell is due to be replaced and I've been tech-lusting at the Mac Air ... BUT
[06:45] <cfhowlett> jbj1, end of life upgrade?  better perhaps to download the 14.04 iso and install
[06:45] <AR45> cfhowlett: eh...
[06:45] <AR45> bummer guys.. I'm sad
[06:46] <Grimlock1182> guys help me how to configure gamepad custom in ubuntu 14.04
[06:46] <gartral> AR45: for *THAT* I think I can solve your question https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Single-Boot:_Ubuntu_Only
[06:46] <jbj1> I'm upgrading from 6,417 miles away... ;-)
[06:46] <cfhowlett> jbj1, oh, some REMOTE upgrade!  fun ...
[06:47] <jbj1> I'm a bit bolder than I should be since I've gotten away with it a bunch of times...
[06:48] <gartral> jbj1: ew... remote upgrades.. I don't do those unless I know I can get a hold of competent hands at the datacenter in case things go sour
[06:49] <jbj1> gartral: yeeeeeaaahhh, so if things go terribly wrong I can get someone there but I might have to wait until the weekend
[06:50] <gartral> jbj1: then wait, don't start until you have "boots on-deck" at the facility.
[06:51] <gartral> jbj1: that or, if possible, clone the deployment to a local disk, do your upgrades in a vm, and then re-deploy
[06:51] <jbj1> yeeeaaaah trouble is it's actually in my house so I could get someone to go there but I wouldn't want to ask unless I really needed it
[06:52] <jbj1> so it's a bit sticky :-)
[06:52] <gartral> jbj1: ah..
[06:52] <gartral> jbj1: I know that feeling, I run my own servers too
[06:56] <jbj1> he-he, yeah things can get dicey. I definitely rely on the Intel AMT--though I haven't gotten the serial console to work with grub
[06:56] <jbj1> but I can at least reboot which has saved me many times
[06:58] <jbj1> but you're idea I like: ideally I'd keep two partitions and actually upgrade via VM running off the other partition
[06:58] <jbj1> that's how TiVo works under the hood (sorta). when a system upgrade comes it installs it on the alternate partition and then switches
[06:58] <jbj1> tricky part is you have to clone your "config" and data files
[06:59] <ptaszynka> How to install pygame into ubuntu 14 with python 3.4 ?
[06:59] <somsip> !info python3
[06:59] <jbj1> but you could do it manually if you had a serial console via AMT into grub and two partitions + VM setup
[07:01] <gartral> jbj1: just clone all of the disk.. it'd be a direct mirror
[07:03] <jbj1> yeah, should mostly "just work" except perhaps device ids..
[07:10] <AR45> gartral: so I just have to change my hd partition format? o_o
[07:11] <AR45> gartral: and it's out of efi mode?
[07:12] <gartral> AR45: that matches my *admittedly limited( experience with macs, yes
[07:13] <AR45> gartral: if this works, I'll be happy because my OS X partition is gone and the default disk recovery utility won't start
[07:13] <AR45> gartral: so now I have even more problems lol
[07:14] <jbj1> AR45 what are you installing on?
[07:15] <jbj1> I installed on a mac mini
[07:15] <jbj1> I vaguely recalled I should have used a utility in macos to set up the loader before I blew away the OSX partition
[07:17] <AR45> got a simple question for you guys, what's the difference between fedora and debian?
[07:17] <cfhowlett> AR45, consult wikipedia or ##linux
[07:18] <jbj1> AR45: fedora is the open source RedHat?
[07:18] <jbj1> AR45 and therefore not debian at all, totally different distro
[07:18] <AR45> jbj1 so what's a red hat?
[07:21] <jbj1> RedHat is just another distro--most visibly they are the progenitors of the ".rpm" format
[07:22] <AR45> gartral: okay anyway to check if im not in efi mode?
[07:23] <gartral> AR45: that... I am uncertain of
[07:24] <jbj1> oh I think you can check that...
[07:24] <jbj1> you mean from linux?\
[07:25] <jbj1> the box I'm on right now boots via EFI
[07:26] <jbj1> if you booted from EFI you should have /sys/firmware/efi
[07:26] <jbj1> (in linux)
[07:28] <AR45> jbj1 fuck me..
[07:28] <AR45> jbj1: it's there..
[07:28] <cfhowlett> AR45, language = keep it clean
[07:29] <AR45> cfhowlett: sorry.. frustrated
[07:29] <cfhowlett> AR45, understood
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> hey I am getting a wierd packaging bug http://i.imgur.com/pNxB9pJ.jpg
[07:31] <botnut> hi all - anyone in try have any luck getting a synaptics trackpad on a dell laptop working on ubuntu 14.04 running under vmware player with a windows 8.1 host?
[07:32] <akiva-thinkpad> its not letting me upgrade this, and its causing other packages to fail to install
[07:32] <metaspike> AR45, fedora is a derivative of RedHat's beta code, without the commercial additions, with community addons, if that makes sense
[07:32] <metaspike> where centos is the stable branch, unless im mistaken
[07:32] <Woodrag> how do i find out which packages cause: pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[07:33] <AR45> Ubuntu has failed me for the first time ever!
[07:34] <cfhowlett> AR45, pray we don't alter your computer further
[07:37] <dupingping> How to get CD/DVD drive's cache size?
[07:37] <metaspike> Woodrag, maybe /var/log/apt/term.log ?
[07:37] <jbj1> AR45: oh also when you boot from EFI you usually have the EFI partition mounted
[07:37] <jbj1> mounted somewhere
[07:38] <SASDOE> Is there a log of all ip address my server ever connected to somewhere?
[07:38] <AR45> sigh crashed again
[07:38] <somsip> SASDOE: /var/log is where all the logs are
[07:39] <botnut> if not there - then check your router - might have a log as well
[07:39] <metaspike> akiva-thinkpad, try it in console? maybe its a subversion thing...
[07:40] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, sure' I'll give you the output
[07:41] <SASDOE> So it would be logged by application not by system?
[07:41] <metaspike> SASDOE, hmmm. just like, generally or to a specific service? because apache server has logs, but I don't think the computer logs IPs generically, you can monitor connections with 'netstat -c' though
[07:42] <metaspike> by default, I don't think ubuntu logs IP connections.
[07:42] <somsip> SASDOE: it depends what you mean by 'all ip addresses'. auth.log will contain SSH logins, apache2 logs webserver access, etc...
[07:43] <SASDOE> Ok it's what I feared. The app I am using doesn't log ips.
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, no potato http://paste.ubuntu.com/8512848/
[07:44] <SASDOE> So how would a gov find who planted a backdoor (for example) if there are no logs?
[07:44] <somsip> SASDOE: it is unlikely there is another log then
[07:44] <botnut> router logs
[07:45] <botnut> system logs
[07:45] <metaspike> akiva-thinkpad, wat, that's bonkers. try 'rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-doc_2.18.0-1_all.deb'
[07:45] <botnut> app logs
[07:45] <metaspike> and chips your tv set!
[07:45] <metaspike> their monitoring my brainwaves
[07:46] <botnut> they're
[07:46] <SASDOE> I doubt backdoors log the ip of it's control server! But thanks I got my answer
[07:46] <somsip> SASDOE: is this still a query relating to your specific installation of ubuntu, or just some general question
[07:47] <SASDOE> My question's been answered, ubuntu by default does not log all ips it connects to.
[07:48] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, nope still the same issues
[07:52] <bolD> has anyone configured OpenLiteSpeed?
[07:52] <metaspike> a quick search reveals there's a bug in the package itself. maybe, dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq lilypond-doc & apt-get install lilypond-doc . will temporarily fix it. or cause fire
[07:52] <bolD> how to enable basic auth on it?
[07:54] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, thanks
[07:57] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, that appears to have worked;
[07:57] <akiva-thinkpad> !cookie | metaspike
[07:58] <metaspike> glad i could help ;)
[08:00] <farva> I need to update my version of ubuntu and I was following this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-ubuntu-13-10-or-12-04/ which led me to this: http://gyazo.com/1de5c5f86de86adc0a4f5c43137a2d6b and I am uncertain if I should be continuing in this way
[08:00] <botnut> farva - not sure - i did an upgrade from 12 to 14 and after a few months it bombed out - i wound up redoing it with 14.04 fresh install
[08:01] <somsip> farva: what version are you on?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> farva, what is the output from your terminal:   cat /etc/issue
[08:02] <metaspike> upgrading over ssh, that's brave
[08:03] <farva> 12.0405 LTS \n \l
[08:03] <Ben64> farva: you can continue that way, just make sure you can log in using the port it says
[08:04] <farva> I can't have it bottoming out on me in a few months though
[08:04] <farva> should I just go with a fresh install?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> farva, direct upgrade to 14.04       if your software sources are set to "Long Term Support" version
[08:04] <Ben64> farva: is it a server?
[08:04] <farva> what is direct upgrade
[08:04] <farva> Ben64:  yes
[08:04] <farva> (new to all this)
[08:04] <Ben64> any PPAs or weird stuff?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> farva, sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade
[08:05] <farva> I have that cfhowlett
[08:05] <Ben64> cfhowlett: apt-get?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> farva, doh!  sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !cookie | Ben64,
[08:05] <farva> its a fresh machine, it was supposed to come with 14.04 and they gave me 12
[08:05] <Ben64> :D
[08:05] <Ben64> farva: well then i'd ask them to put 14.04 on it
[08:06] <snpresent> hello guys
[08:06] <Ben64> the upgrade should be fine, but if you haven't done anything yet you might as well have them put 14.04 on fresh
[08:22] <Guest68589> what
[08:22] <peawormsworth> I downloaded 14.04 from torrents. The md4sum is correct. But when I installed, it turned out to be 13.04 raring. Why?
[08:22] <Guest68589> slava Stalinu
[08:23] <superkuh> Probably because you downloaded 13.04.
[08:23] <peawormsworth> no. I dont have that downloaded at all.
[08:24] <peawormsworth> let me recheck tho.
[08:25] <farva> What do I select here? Since I already have my root user set up.... : http://gyazo.com/146710bd4b0c59cfc1316408d6e36062
[08:25] <farva> I mean, I could assume I keep it the way I have it, but I don't want to mess up
[08:26] <peawormsworth> superkuh: you are correct. obvious answer is true.
[08:26] <superkuh> You could just add the 'Defaults    mail_badpass' manually farva.
[08:26] <farva> I have no idea what that is
[08:27] <superkuh> Me either!
[08:27] <superkuh> But if it's in the new version it probably won't hurt.
[08:29] <zetheroo> I need to remove a search entry in resolv.conf for good - how does one do this?
[08:30] <superkuh> Open /etc/resolv.conf with root privs in your text editor of choice?
[08:32] <superkuh> gksu gedit /etc/resolv.conf , etc. Find the 'search ________' line, remove it, save.
[08:32] <superkuh> Also check in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ for other instances of the search line.
[08:32] <kanupatar> May I know, about the support in linux for the listed features? http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/4752c2e9
[08:33] <ShrewdSpirit> hello
[08:33] <kanupatar> I am planning to build a demo system
[08:33] <superkuh> Probably not, kanupatar, that list is generic.
[08:33] <superkuh> CAN support? A car computer?
[08:34] <kanupatar> superkuh: yes
[08:34] <superkuh> You'd probably be able to work something but might need to bitbang or use some external peripheral.
[08:34] <ShrewdSpirit> guys i've a problem with installing xubuntu 14.04. i have windows 8.1 installed with legacy boot mode, but xubuntu doesnt detect my partitions in installer
[08:34] <kanupatar> superkuh: means can driver
[08:34] <superkuh> Well, okay, sure. CAN is supported in the linux kernel.
[08:35] <kanupatar> superkuh: also can stack
[08:35] <kanupatar> superkuh: where do I see the support list
[08:35] <iIlL10Oo>  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[08:35] <superkuh> http://elinux.org/CAN_Bus
[08:35] <kanupatar> these are the features, FM     AM     handsfree sending / Receiving     Phone Book     Miracast-Wifi     HDMI     BT     CD     DVD     CarPlay     DTV     DIAG     CAN     Rear Camera
[08:36] <ShrewdSpirit> can anyone help?
[08:36] <ShrewdSpirit> .-.
[08:37] <snpresent> say it
[08:37] <superkuh> I don't know Windows, shewd, sorry.
[08:37] <ShrewdSpirit> @snpresent xubuntu installer doesnt detect my partitions. i have windows 8.1 installed
[08:38] <staar2> hello
[08:38] <filsuck> hallo all!! ... does Ubuntu have an NSA-BACKDOOR?
[08:39] <DJones> filsuck: Easily answered, no
[08:39] <filsuck> for sure the mofo NSA has a special backdoor in WinSuck
[08:39] <superkuh> They probably have a whole load of secret 0'days for it.
[08:40] <superkuh> But they probably do for everything.
[08:40] <glcheetham> Hi there, I am attempting to set up a mail server using postfix and courier and I can receive mail via IMAP fine, but attempting to send mail gives me a "relay access denied". What does this error exactly mean and what are some of its common causes?
[08:40] <filsuck> how can I know there is no backdoor in ubuntu DESIGNED FOR NSA
[08:40] <filsuck> ubuntu is also just an american hoe ... no?
[08:40] <glcheetham> filsuck: you can see the source code and check for yourself
[08:41] <superkuh> glcheetham, check your /var/logs/mail.log
[08:41] <kmj> hi everyone, i'm new to linux os, any idea how to install flash player having in mind that adobe website is restricted in my country.
[08:41] <superkuh> It'll be something relating to smtpd_recipient_restrictions in your postfix config.
[08:42] <apb1963> I'm trying to run an application remotely... using X.  The window pops up locally, but I'm getting horrible response time from it; every click is an agonizing wait. The local client has normal reaction time for local applications, the remote server has 8 cores and virtually no load.  Ping time between is good (~50ms).  Any ideas on why it's so slow and/or preferably how to speed it up?
[08:42] <superkuh> kmj, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[08:42] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit set BIOS UEFI off and hard disk mode change to another mode
[08:42] <glcheetham> superkuh, cheers, what does the error itself, as in, what set of conditions need to happen before it triggers?
[08:43] <filsuck> I come to conclusion anything American is totally UNTRUSTWORTHY
[08:43] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent my laptop boots in legacy mode
[08:43] <filsuck> yaho google facebook
[08:43] <filsuck> all garbage
[08:43] <DJones> filsuck: You're welcome to that opinion, but its not a topic for discussion here, this channel only deals with Ubuntu support questions
[08:43] <superkuh> glcheetham: Sorry, no time to get into mailserver setup. That's tedious stuff. Check out the workaround.org ispmail tutorials to get some context.
[08:43] <superkuh> That's where I learned how.
[08:44] <apb1963> glcheetham: it sounds like you're trying to use some other server (like your ISP perhaps?) as your mail relay.  *shrug*
[08:44] <filsuck> now ISIS is openly demanding their fans to behead twitter's employee!
[08:44] <filsuck> now that is interesting
[08:44] <filsuck> now that is interesting
[08:44] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit not boot mode , harddisk mode got that
[08:44] <DJones> filsuck: Please stop, its not a topic for discussion here
[08:44] <glcheetham> superkuh, thanks alot for the help anyway :-)
[08:44] <glcheetham> apb1963: and you too
[08:44] <snpresent> harddisk opinion
[08:44] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent sorry but how can I change that?
[08:44] <ShrewdSpirit> :o
[08:45] <ShrewdSpirit> you mean device boot order?
[08:45] <azizLIGHT> what is the command for window spread?
[08:45] <azizLIGHT> in terminal
[08:45] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit please google how to use BIOS
[08:46] <apb1963> glcheetham: I believe there's a #postfix channel... you'll iikely find some knowledgeable people there... hopefully they've already eaten :)
[08:46] <ShrewdSpirit> ik how to use it. but i don't understand what's harddisk mode
[08:47] <superkuh> glcheetham, there's also a #postfix on freenode. But consider it more of a forum than IRC. You'll have to wait a long time to get help.
[08:47] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit ok i will show you wait second
[08:48] <ShrewdSpirit> okay thanks
[08:48] <glcheetham> Thanks guys
[08:48] <superkuh> Oh. You're there already.
[08:48] <superkuh> Heh. Good luck.
[08:48] <azizLIGHT> is ther ea comamnd i can use in terminal to do window spread (i want to make a launcher that does window spread)
[08:49] <superkuh> azizLIGHT, you could work something up with xmctrl.
[08:49] <superkuh> er, wmctrl.
[08:49] <superkuh> Also, xdotool.
[08:50] <azizLIGHT> pls more hint
[08:51] <glcheetham> In other news, I have started to lose a little faith in ubuntu and GNU/Linux as a desktop operating system. How can you help a brother who is losing faith? :(
[08:51] <azizLIGHT> why are you losing faith
[08:51] <superkuh> glcheetham, just imagine trying to set up a mail server on windows. :|
[08:51] <azizLIGHT> what caused that
[08:52] <metaspike> glcheetham, faith? this isn't a church lol
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[08:53] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent what should I do then?
[08:53] <glcheetham> Most linux distros I've tried have little quirks that I need to sort out,and I'm kind of tired of vi'ing conf files
[08:53] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit try another mode
[08:53] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent, okay lemme try
[08:53] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit like IDE mode or something else
[08:54] <glcheetham> Sometimes I feel like I just want something that just works, I feel like I've grown out of distro hopping and vi'ing
[08:54] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent ok
[08:54] <glcheetham> But it's something I used to enjoy :-(
[08:55] <IceBot3000> glcheetham: You may find this interesting: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html
[08:59] <ShrewdSpirit> damn this gparted >_< its taking more than 2 hours to move and resize a partition. minitool partition wizard could do it faster
[09:01] <IceBot3000> Doubt it, gparted is just a wrapper for standard system utilities
[09:01] <metaspike> glcheetham, tedium is a sign for change, maybe you just need some fresh air or something :)
[09:01] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit no need try this in livecd :sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1 count=8 seek=512
[09:02] <superkuh> Setting up my mail server was one of the more tedious things I've ever done. Blaming gnu/linux as a whole for that isn't fair.
[09:02] <superkuh> It'd be just as frustrating on any other platform short of using something like iRedmail.
[09:02] <cosmos_> hi
[09:02] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent but this will remove all my partitions :o I need windows for some tasks. I have to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[09:03] <glcheetham> superkuh: I haven't lost faith because of my setting up a mail server, I love linux on the server, I just am getting a little sick of things not working on my laptop :(
[09:03] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit it will not i think
[09:04] <glcheetham> superkuh: If I had to work with windows servers at work everyday I would probably have killed myself
[09:04] <superkuh> Ah, alright.
[09:04] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent seriously? there are some things that I can't do in windows and I need ubuntu for those
[09:04] <superkuh> A little venting is necessary. I've personally been battling a persistent every ~15 minutes filemanager segfault for the last month.
[09:05] <apb1963> glcheetham: pastebin your conf file.  maybe something obvious will jump out at me or someone
[09:05] <kanupatar> what about AM/FM stack support in linux?
[09:05] <apb1963> superkuh: I battled segfaults for 6 months until I dumped 12.04 and moved to 14.04... then I battled baloo until I finally found out how to turn it off.
[09:06] <superkuh> Mine started with the upgrade to 14.04. :\
[09:06] <snpresent>  <ShrewdSpirit> try google : sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1 count=8 seek=512
[09:06] <snpresent> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1 count=8 seek=512
[09:06] <glcheetham> apb1963: postconf -n http://pastebin.com/E6pUtcjX
[09:06] <metaspike> my bugbear is no sound after resume from hibernate. pleh
[09:06] <apb1963> superkuh: IIRC, rumor has it you can't upgrade.. you have to install fresh.  But I could be wrong.  I installed fresh (using debootstrap), so I don't really know.
[09:07] <superkuh> I'd believe that.
[09:07] <apb1963> metaspike: ugh.  I rebooted 2 hours ago due to sound  problems.  Don't get me started on audio issues.
[09:07] <apb1963> glcheetham: looking
[09:07] <superkuh> I had to do some fairly non-standard things just to get the install to complete.
[09:07] <superkuh> Er, upgrade.
 it will Erase the signature part of the GPT partition table
[09:08] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent can't gdisk do this?
[09:09] <ShrewdSpirit> zapping GPT
[09:09] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit no any damage to its own partition
[09:09] <ShrewdSpirit> but I'm not sure if windows can boot then
[09:09] <ShrewdSpirit> windows 8 needs GPT
[09:10] <metaspike>  /dev/sda might be anything.. best check with lsblk first
[09:10] <snpresent> then you can install ubuntu use grub to boot windows
[09:11] <apb1963> glcheetham: what version of ubuntu?
[09:11] <glcheetham> apb1963: 14.04
[09:11] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent okay lemme try
[09:11] <apb1963> glcheetham: how did you install postfix?
then you can install ubuntu use grub to boot windows
[09:12] <snpresent> then you can install ubuntu use grub to boot windows
[09:12] <glcheetham> apb1963: In regards to the mail server, I am going to go and rethink, regroup and get my head straight. In regards to the losing of faith, I hope that linus and mark shuttleworth will forgive me :-)
[09:13] <glcheetham> apb1963: I used apt
[09:13] <apb1963> glcheetham: did you select anything other than defaults?
[09:13] <Grant_P> Hi All, I'm having serious issues with ubuntu14.04 & chrome (stable & beta). Its crashing constantly. Is there any known issues?
[09:13] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent okay removed the GPT signature. lets run the installer
 remember check you hard disk 's name
[09:14] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent, okay
[09:14] <glcheetham> apb1963: No, however I have modified the main.cf file considerably
[09:14] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit i hope it will work
[09:15] <apb1963> glcheetham: Yeah, it kind of looks like it.  Try adding this:  "relayhost =" into your main.cf (no quotes).
[09:15] <glcheetham> apb1963: Thanks for the help
[09:16] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent I hope too. livecd is very slow. the installer is stuck in "preparing to install ..." page
[09:17] <apb1963> glcheetham: Also try adding "smtpd_relay_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated defer_unauth_destination" again... no quotes.
[09:17] <glcheetham> apb1963: yeah, that's something I have tried before however it has made no difference
[09:17] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit patient
[09:18] <glcheetham> apb1963: Thank you for the help however now I feel bad for help vampiring and I am going to go and fix this myself
[09:18] <apb1963> glcheetham: if that's the case, then you need someone who knows what they're doing :)
[09:18] <apb1963> glcheetham: meh.  That's the purpose of the channel as far as I'm concerned.  Give and take.
[09:18] <Jenny_> Howdy all
[09:19] <glcheetham> apb1963: May the force be with you, sir :-)
[09:19] <apb1963> glcheetham: You too
[09:19] <Jenny_> I'm looking for help with restoring grub after messing with partition sizes :o(
[09:19] <Grant_P> So anyone having issues with Geforce + chrome on ubuntu 14.04 where browser crashes or sometimes even whole system freezes?
[09:19] <somsip> Grant_P: yes, but I know it's a dodgy connection between AGP and mobo
[09:20] <nispr0> is it possible to show which interface belongs to output from lsof -i?
[09:20] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent woohoo :D I have my partitions now ^_^ thank you so much
[09:20] <Grant_P> somsip: ah bugger, i can see in the logs its segfaulting each time..
[09:20] <hateball> !fixgrub | Jenny_
[09:21] <somsip> Grant_P: different issue then
[09:21] <Jenny_> thanks bot, I've tried the walk through boot-repair no luck
[09:21] <snpresent> Grant_P what version you use
[09:21] <snpresent> ？
[09:22] <metaspike> Jenny_, grub-install /dev/sdx ?
[09:22] <Grant_P> snpresent: I'm ive tried both stable and beta and experiencing the same issue. I'm also using the 64 bit version of chrome. I've deleted the profile/config, but still no luck. I have literally one extension installed.
[09:22] <metaspike> i wish there was a way to magically convert ntfs to ext4
[09:22] <__unik> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[09:22] <__unik> Founder of GNU, Richard Stallman, has harsh criticism on Ubuntu.
[09:22] <zetheroo>  superkuh:  after reboot the entry in back in resolv.conf ... and I checked the other files in the path you mentioned and they don't have it
[09:22] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit glad to hear that！
[09:23] <Jenny_> trhnx spike can i run that from the boot cd
[09:23] <__unik> Cuz he dislikes combining free and nonfree software within ubuntu
[09:23] <superkuh> network-manager
[09:23] <superkuh> I always disable it but it comes enabled by default. Um. Try changing the file permissions.
[09:23] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent, thank you dude
[09:23] <superkuh> So network manager can't get at it.
[09:24] <snpresent> Grant_P  and  what GPU you use
[09:24] <superkuh> zetheroo, http://debmintux.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/stop-resolv-conf-being-overwritten-by-network-manager/
[09:25] <Grant_P> snpresent: GeForce GTX 660
[09:25] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit> yeah
[09:25] <Jenny_> grub-install: error: cannot open directory `/boot/grub/i386-pc': No such file or directory.
[09:25] <snpresent> Grant_P> let me check it out
[09:26] <Grant_P> snpresent: thanks.
[09:27] <Jenny_> I've this boot-repair log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:27] <snpresent> Grant_P now  pleasetry to install Chromium to see if there is same issue
[09:27] <Jenny_> I'd be grateful if anyone could check it for school girl errors :o)
[09:28] <zetheroo> superkuh:  chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
 what is your trouble?
[09:28] <Grant_P> snpresent: i'll give a try, may not trigger instantly
[09:28] <Jenny_> I've lost Grub!
[09:29] <ShrewdSpirit> Jenny_ then use boot-repair
[09:29] <Jenny_> I resized a partition... well I deleted 2 partitions, and merged the space with another
[09:29] <Jenny_> this is my error log from boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:30] <Jenny_> it doesn't seem to finish successfully
[09:31] <snpresent> Grant_P then i will see if there have some bugs in Chrome display system
[09:31] <superkuh> zetheroo, I've not run into that. Another option is to remove the resolveconf package. All these things might break parts of network-manager.
[09:31] <Jenny_> thanks for your time on this guys!
[09:32] <superkuh> I guess unless you want to set up things manually you'll have to look into why network-manager is adding the search string.
[09:32] <Grant_P> snpresent: cool, ill load it up and let you know.
[09:33] <Grant_P> snpresent: you in here often?
[09:33] <snpresent> no
[09:34] <[jasper]> hej guys, I'm having a issue getting vdpau working: ERROR: (VDPAU) unable to init VDPAU - vdp_st = 0x1.  Falling back.
[09:35] <[jasper]> I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[09:35] <[jasper]> is there anybody that could give me a hand here?
[09:35] <Jenny_> Anyone else info on Grub, or perhaps how I can reinstall Ubuntu safely without removing fiiles?
[09:35] <Grant_P> snpresent: lol, crashed. :)
[09:36] <Ben64> [jasper]: vdpau doesn't work on intel
[09:37] <[jasper]> hmm Ben64 not at all?
[09:37] <Ben64> [jasper]: as far as i know
[09:37] <metaspike> Jenny_, I would just try 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' reboot and see what happens
[09:37] <Grant_P> snpresent: http://pastebin.com/BuwMV9Gg <-- Segfault error message in syslog.
[09:38] <[jasper]> intel uses va-api right?
[09:38] <snpresent> Grant_P ok now ,open “about system” button  and see what driver you use to hold your GPU
[09:38] <Jenny_> thanks spike:
[09:39] <Jenny_> receive error: grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[09:39] <metaspike> wat -_-
[09:40] <Jenny_> lol i don't know cow?
 thanks that helps please wait
[09:42] <metaspike> Jenny_, sudo os-prober & grub-install /dev/sda
[09:42] <Jenny_> cow is listed under filesystem on this extract though http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:42] <metaspike> Jenny_, sudo os-prober & sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[09:43] <Jenny_> "grub-install: error: cannot delete `/boot/grub/i386-pc/terminal.lst" but it seems to be doing something?
[09:44] <Grant_P> snpresent: you mean in software and updates > additional driver?
[09:44] <metaspike> cannot get canonical path of cow... sorry dude, I don't know what to think anymore
 are you there?
[09:45] <hillary> assist me with a terminal command to create a file in ubuntu 14.04
[09:45] <Jenny_> no worries, thanks for your time and help!
[09:45] <Grant_P> snpresent: yeah i'm here. :)
[09:45] <metaspike> see if reboot works now anyway.
[09:45] <yocapybara> hillary: touch myfilename
[09:46] <hillary> thank you
[09:46] <Jenny_> it's not a windows machine :o)
[09:46] <Grant_P> So, i was using nvidia driver 331.38 (prop,tested) but then tonight switched to 304.117 and still seeing same issue.
 no ,i still need to know what open source  GPU driver you use,please let me know
[09:46] <Grant_P> snpresent: So, i was using nvidia driver 331.38 (prop,tested) but then tonight switched to 304.117 and still seeing same issue.
[09:47] <metaspike> Jenny_, you can now grub-install --recheck /dev/sda  ... then 'update-grub'.. check for errors,
[09:47] <__unik> it seems that installing driver for intel hd graphic controller is impossible
[09:47] <__unik> I don't have graphics card
[09:48] <Jenny_> grub-install: error: cannot delete `/boot/grub/i386-pc/terminal.lst': Permission denied.
[09:48] <snpresent> Grant_P so it is nvidia official GPU driver ,it is not open source i can't read the source ,please reinstall it
[09:48] <Jenny_> so I sudo !! and receive grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[09:48] <hateball> Jenny_: are you running grub-install with sudo? if not, you should
[09:48] <hateball> oh
[09:48] <JCT> i tried a theme on ubuntu but it didn't work out. is there a command line to completely reset the themes? is it separate commands, and should i put it in a sequence (&&)?
[09:49] <snpresent> Grant_P or use opensoure driver
[09:49] <JCT> ?
[09:50] <hateball> snpresent, Grant_P: fwiw I run gtx 770 with prop driver and have no problems in chromium. even enabled hardware decoding stuff. the only thing that crashes at times is pepper-flash
[09:50] <Jenny_> with sudo it gives me the cow error: grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.    wtf?
[09:50] <JCT> i need help!
[09:50] <Grant_P> snpresent: do you recommend reinstalling first?
[09:50] <Jenny_> & /cow is listed under the filesystem here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:51] <JCT> help please
[09:51] <JCT> i want to reset to normal ubuntu themes
[09:51] <Ben64> JCT: be patient.
[09:52] <snpresent> Grant_P and do not use newest driver for nvidia gpu
[09:52] <utfans05_work> !patience | JCT
[09:52] <jishjish> guys is it possible to pass results from a FIND command in terminal to the copy command (cp)? like find . -iname "*.SomeExtension" | cp Destination Directory?
[09:53] <sakatovic> ciao
[09:53] <hateball> jishjish: use -exec, or the xargs command
[09:53] <JCT> it's hard when you have ADHD and you wait 3 minutes when you're used to having it answered quickly, but no one is obligated to that.
[09:53] <sakatovic> |lista
[09:53] <sakatovic> !lista
[09:53] <metaspike> Jenny_, try this: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot-sav/sdb1 /dev/sdb'  it seems /dev/sda is all windows, you will need to specify your second device on boot though
[09:53] <snpresent> Grant_P use lower version please it maybe work！
[09:53] <jishjish> hateball how do I know when you can use | pipe and when you have to use the exec option of find?
[09:54] <dupingping> How to get CD/DVD drive's cache size?
[09:54] <Ben64> snpresent: theres nothing wrong with the latest version of nvidia
[09:54] <metaspike> and the boot-rescue script doesn't know how to compensate
[09:54] <Jenny_> thanks spike, but it won't let the cow issue go grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[09:54] <Grant_P> snpresent: i used lower version already and had same issue. I'll try reinstalling though.
[09:54] <snpresent> Ben64 how you know that?
[09:55] <Jenny_> nah no luck, and I've run it an handful of times
[09:55] <sakatovic> ciao
[09:55] <Grant_P> hateball: thanks, i don't have pepperflash anymore on 14.04, from what i read its all packaged into chrome now?
[09:55] <sakatovic> !lista
[09:55] <Ben64> snpresent: because many many people use it
[09:55] <Jenny_> can I reinstalll without losing files?
[09:55] <Grant_P> hateball: but i cant see it actually in chrome://plugins
[09:55] <metaspike> personally, i would copy everything to an external drive, wipe and install linux
[09:56] <snpresent> Grant_P then uninstall it use open source version!
[09:56] <Jenny_> yeah I need office for work :o(
[09:56] <snpresent> Ben64 that's hard to say
[09:57] <sakatovic> Ciao
[09:57] <sakatovic> !lista
[09:57] <Jenny_> That might be my weekend project!
[09:57] <DJones> !piracy | sakatovic
[09:57] <Jenny_> thanks for your help guys!
[09:57] <IceBot3000> DJones: No-one mentioned piracy...
[09:57] <hateball> Grant_P: You could try running chrome/ium from a terminal and see if it spits out anything when it dies
[09:58] <metaspike> Jenny_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb, replace /dev/sd*# with /dev/sdb5  ,
[09:58] <metaspike> good lk
[09:58] <chalcedony> my husband recently switched to ubuntu 14.04, he has compiz and cairo-dock and LIKES them. but cairo-dock is locking his screen sometimes. some of the help ive googled tells me to look at System > Settings, im not used to his screen and he can't speak to tell me.. how do i find that?
[09:59] <love3> Can I install ubuntu to my phone
[09:59] <jishjish> love3: yes
[09:59] <IceBot3000> love3: Depends on the phone
[09:59] <Grant_P> snpresent: Thanks, will try. hateball cheers, i'll also try that too. Nice!
[09:59] <Grant_P> snpresent: hateball bbs
[10:00] <love3> Hmm interesting, can dual boot with android?
[10:00] <he11san9e1> got a problem with chrome after upgrade on ubuntu 12.04 chrome display gets blurry and distorted.. can someone help me with a fix
[10:00] <Jenny_> Thanks spike! WHICH BITS DO I RUN?
[10:01] <love3> He11 how do you mean blurry and distorted exactly?
[10:01] <ShrewdSpirit> love3 ubuntu for android is heavily based on android itself
[10:01] <metaspike> Jenny_, all of them.
[10:01] <he11san9e1> i mean chrome display turned out to be rilly awful
[10:02] <ShrewdSpirit> love3 but you can use a supported linux distro on your device while using your android
[10:02] <Jenny_> and the last one sda?
[10:03] <Jenny_> shit yeah!
[10:03] <Jenny_> Thansk again Splike!
[10:03] <Jenny_> Holy cow! :o)
[10:03] <metaspike> uggh, that error will haunt me for a while
[10:03] <Jenny_> rebooting, so ciao for now
[10:03] <metaspike>  /cow indeed
[10:04] <Jenny_> haha cow for now :o)
[10:04] <love3> Shrew hmm yeah I'll Google that when I have a better phone I know the one l have isn't supported
[10:04] <popey> ShrewdSpirit: Ubuntu For Android was never released. there's a dual-boot option for Ubuntu Touch and Android side-by-side on the Nexus 4 though. cc love3
 please upgrade to 14.04
[10:05] <metaspike> chalcedony, click a blank space on the desktop, System > Settings should be at the top...
[10:05] <ShrewdSpirit> popey, I meant ubuntu touch ;) not ubuntu itself
[10:05] <popey> heh
[10:05] <metaspike> they're reffering to the menu
[10:05] <popey> ShrewdSpirit: its all too confusing! :D
[10:05] <chalcedony> metaspike, wow thanks :)
[10:06] <hillary> am unable to access http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ in ubuntu 14.04. what could be the issue
[10:06] <He4dShOt> Nexus 5 is not supported?
[10:06] <chalcedony> he really had no idea
[10:06] <ShrewdSpirit> popey, yeah :D I just forgot its name which was ubuntu touch :p
[10:06] <ShrewdSpirit> love3 you can find some linux distros for your phone in xda-developers.com
[10:06] <IceBot3000> hillary: Apache isn't running?
[10:06] <love3> Shrew thanks
[10:06] <IceBot3000> hillary: (or other webserver)
[10:06] <ShrewdSpirit> love3 or try linux installer. you can find it in play store
[10:06] <jishjish> He4dShOt: let me know how you go my one gripe with Nexus 5 is battery life - hoping flashing to another rom will fix the problem.
[10:08] <hillary> IceBot3000:http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513545/
[10:08] <HewloThere> hillary: So it's easier for IceBot3000 to click, it's: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513545/
[10:09] <HewloThere> What are you trying to do hillary?
[10:09] <hillary> sorry sorry
[10:09] <IceBot3000> hillary: What do the Apache logs show?
[10:09] <HewloThere> IceBot3000, what's hillary attemtping to do or what's wrong?
[10:09] <JCT> woah, it's been over 15 minutes and i still haven't got a personal reply.
[10:09] <hillary> am trying to am installing phpmyadmin
[10:10] <JCT> how do i reset the themes on ubuntu?
[10:10] <He4dShOt> jishjish, what are you using?
[10:10] <snpresent> i may know ubuntu's little secret.......
[10:10] <hillary> how do i check apache logs please
[10:10] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT thats why you should always make backup before installing themes that will replace the current one
[10:11] <JCT> well crap. the only thing i want is to change window indicator text to white
[10:11] <JCT> i'll scrnshot
[10:12] <jishjish> He4dShOt: I'm using teh stock image right now
[10:12] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT ok
[10:13] <Kolanis> I use an distro that is heavily based on Ubuntu although it's desktop environment is Xfce; if this distro shuts down, can I use Ubuntu's repos to update the distro?
[10:13] <JCT> http://imgur.com/7DE0mPP see what's so annoyingly black?
[10:13] <He4dShOt> jishjish, you should try franco's, it's amazing
[10:14] <JCT> how do i change that to white?
[10:14] <jishjish> He4dShOt: never heard of it can you link to download?
[10:14] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT, lemme open firefox. I'm using livecd and its soooo slow
[10:14] <JCT> i use Xgnome chat
[10:15] <JCT> if dats where it's at
[10:15] <snpresent> Kolanis yes you can
[10:15] <He4dShOt> jishjish, http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/orig-development/kernel-franco-kernel-r53-t2508284
[10:15] <He4dShOt> JCT, what's annoying?
[10:15] <Ben64> snpresent: he's gone and thats not true
[10:16] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT maybe you can change the color in theme config files
[10:16] <JCT> that black text that indicates the window (barely able tosee it) >white
[10:16] <snpresent> Ben64 why?
[10:16] <JCT> how to config?
[10:16] <He4dShOt> JCT, ah ok I see it now
[10:17] <arquebus> JCT: you mean the color of the window panel on top? if that were Gnome you could just change your desktop theme
[10:17] <Ben64> snpresent: because only the repositories for a distro will work for that distro
[10:17] <JCT> ubuntu is a little bit uncustomizable without the proper coding skills
[10:17] <alex88> hi guys, I'm on an circleci instance (12.04) trying to install package libvips-dev
[10:17] <jishjish> He4dShOt: I don't get it is that an actual rom, it looks like just the kernel?
[10:17] <alex88> problem is https://gist.github.com/alex88/6b0d829b591a07af8a40
[10:18] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT try xfce. you can easily customize it ;)
[10:18] <alex88> after trying to install the deps, some can't be resolved
[10:18] <JCT> where to find xfce?
[10:18] <JCT> in software center?
[10:18] <snpresent> Ben64 i don't think so ,sorry for that,i even can use debian on ubuntu,so....
[10:18] <He4dShOt> jishjish, yes it's only the kernel
[10:18] <Grant_P> snpresent: even after using open source driver, i don't believe this is video card related.
[10:18] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <Ben64> snpresent: nope, using debian on ubuntu will break everything
[10:19] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT it will install another desktop environment alongside Unity
[10:19] <snpresent> Grant_P have you tried open source driver?
[10:20] <Grant_P> snpresent: yep, same issue
[10:20] <He4dShOt> xfce is pretty ugly tho
[10:20] <snpresent> what open source driver you use?
[10:20] <JCT> ugh what crap happened to the terminal? http://imgur.com/GgjNiPe
[10:21] <snpresent> Grant_P what open source driver you use?
[10:21] <Ben64> JCT: black text on black background maybe
[10:21] <metaspike> nothing wrong is xfce ;)
[10:21] <ShrewdSpirit> He4dShOt, xfce might seem ugly but its pretty customizable
[10:21] <JCT> i know
 and why i can use it?
[10:21] <jishjish> ShrewdSpirit: do you know if you can give the spacing and background for the xfce dock transparency (see through)?
[10:21] <lost_and_unfound> greetings, any solution for PDF files containing form fields and the "The document you are trying to load requires Adobe Reader 8 or higher." error ? I have tried, evice, gimp and even pdftk. thanks
[10:22] <yecril71pl> Why can’t I move a directory created as the superuser?
[10:22] <IceBot3000> lost_and_unfound: Install Adobe Reader for Linux
[10:23] <Ben64> yecril71pl: pastebin the error(s)
[10:23] <lost_and_unfound> IceBot3000: On the offical Adobe site there is no option for linux
[10:23] <cfhowlett> jishjish, yes you can set spacing and transparency
[10:23] <snpresent> lost_and_unfound> try to use firefox and Chrome to open it
[10:23] <lost_and_unfound> snpresent: have tried it, same error
[10:23] <ShrewdSpirit> jishjish you can set it
[10:24] <yecril71pl> Ben64: Błąd podczas przenoszenia pliku: Brak dostępu.
[10:24] <jishjish> ShrewdSpirit: thanks
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !pl | yecril71pl,
[10:24] <snpresent> Grant_P you there?
[10:25] <JCT> i feel like i can't even write commands on the terminal anymore
[10:25] <snpresent> lost_and_unfound the document Be encrypted
[10:26] <Grant_P> snpresent: apologies, system compltely froze, so if you said something i would have missed it.
[10:26] <Ben64> yecril71pl: ok, paste the command you're trying as well, along with the output of "ls -l <file>"
[10:26] <yecril71pl> That means ‘Access denied. ’
[10:26] <Grant_P> hateball: snpresent i think this is flash related, the reason why it's crashing (that's what i suspect).
[10:26] <yecril71pl> I cannot paste the command, I just drag the directory.
[10:26] <Ben64> yecril71pl: you can't drag as superuser
[10:27] <yecril71pl> Ben64: It is not a dir
[10:27] <yecril71pl> Ben64: It is not a file, it is a directory.
[10:27] <lost_and_unfound> snpresent: the document be starting to become a headache =]
[10:27] <Ben64> yecril71pl: technically directories are files
[10:28] <JCT> yay somehow it reset itself
[10:28] <JCT> i downloaded a tweaker
[10:28] <metaspike> technically, inodes. :)
[10:28] <yecril71pl> The directory is created as superuser, I drag it as myself.
i don't think so
[10:29] <Grant_P> snpresent: while this isn't the greatest comparison, firefox works fine.
[10:29] <Ben64> yecril71pl: well then you need to be root to move it, which you can't do in gui
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Ben64, gksu?
[10:30] <Ben64> cfhowlett: don't finish that command :S
[10:30] <yecril71pl> Ben64: I can drag a file created as a superuser but I cannot drag a directory created as a superuser.
[10:30] <yecril71pl> That is, I can drag them but the operation fails.
[10:31] <Ben64> yecril71pl: ok
[10:31] <yecril71pl> Ben64: Why do I need to elevate to move a directory but I can move a file all right?  It seems inconsistent.
[10:33] <Ben64> yecril71pl: depends where it is
[10:34] <JCT> i am trying to install zandronum on ubuntu.
[10:34]  * metaspike pictures someone accidently moving /etc to /dev - doh!
 firefox and chrome use different display methethod in linux
[10:35] <snpresent> sorry method
[10:35] <JCT> (Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/gtk3/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found) was in the terminal, and i needed that to install zandronum
[10:35] <Ben64> JCT: we can't support PPAs here, talk to the guy who runs that
[10:36] <snpresent>  Chrome use Aura
[10:36] <JCT> who?
[10:36] <Ben64> JCT: thats up to you to find out
[10:37] <yecril71pl> Ben64: It is in my home directory.
[10:37] <JCT> am i supposed to be able to modify system folders? i want to modify ~/usr/games, but it won't work
[10:38] <JCT> it isn't doing it
[10:38] <Ben64> JCT: ~/ is your home folder, you should be able to modify anything there
[10:38] <snpresent> any one love unity
[10:38] <ubuntu-studio> hi there.. can I run ubuntu with dual RAM?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> snpresent, some do.  some don't.
[10:38] <IceBot3000> snpresent: I use Unity for game dev :)
[10:39] <bazhang> snpresent, please chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic for such issues
[10:39] <JCT> computer volume/usr/games/zandronum
 allright
[10:39] <ubuntu-studio> ?
[10:39] <ShrewdSpirit> ubuntu-studio, why not
[10:40] <ubuntu-studio> I want to upgrade my RAM memory later, just need to try for make sure
[10:41] <Grant_P> snpresent: any other ideas here?
[10:41] <ShrewdSpirit> ubuntu-studio, I have two 4GB RAM and everything works fine for me
[10:42] <ubuntu-studio> thank's shrewd
[10:42] <ShrewdSpirit> ubuntu-studio, np :)
[10:42] <iivvoo> hi
[10:42] <metaspike> JCT, yecril71pl. you should learn about basic permissions.. rxwrxwrxw user:group inode, chgrp chown, ls -lt ...
[10:43] <iivvoo> when I plug in an external monitor on my laptop, everything works fine
[10:43] <iivvoo> but as soon as the external display goes to sleep, windows are 'collected' back to the laptop desktop randomly (they don't even stay on the same virtual desktop)
[10:43] <iivvoo> which becomes a bit annoying after a while :)
[10:43] <iivvoo> 14.04 with unity
[10:43] <IceBot3000> iivvoo: Have you filed a bug report?
[10:44] <iivvoo> IceBot3000, not sure if it's a bug or just a configuration thing
[10:45] <metaspike> it's an annoying feature by the sound of it
[10:45] <nusr> what is a good screen recording software on linux?
[10:46] <cfhowlett> nusr, so many choices ... look in software center
[10:46] <metaspike> glc-capture is good but only for gl progs
[10:46] <nusr> there are 4 in software center, 1 with a 1 star rating
[10:46] <cfhowlett> nusr, so?  install all 4 (free), test and choose.
 try google-chrome --disable-gpu in Terminal
[10:47] <nusr> cfhowlett: ok..shotgun approach will work too
[10:47] <Jordy> Hi everyone - i want to install Cacti on Ubuntu Desktop, but I can't install it. sudo apt-get install cacti doesn't work. Does anyone know how I should install it?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !info cacti
[10:48] <ubuntuproccessno> hi guys, can you help me out gtting the proccess id of cron as an argument to a file excecution?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Jordy, what is the output: cat /etc/issue
[10:48] <snpresent> Jordy add ppa to install
[10:49] <ubuntuproccessno> i need it to g like this:  ./killer <proccess id> another_argument
[10:49] <cfhowlett> snpresent, it's in universe ... not a ppa
[10:49] <ubuntuproccessno> cron process id can be found using "pidof cron"
[10:49] <Jordy> chalcedony: 14.04.01
[10:49] <Jordy> cfhowlett: 14.04.1 LTS
[10:49] <metaspike> yup, maybe ./killer $(pidof cron) argument
[10:49] <snpresent> cfhowlett ok then
[10:50] <cfhowlett> Jordy, universe repo is enabled?  then sudo apt-get install shoud get it
[10:50] <ubuntuproccessno> metaspike -> you are the man!
[10:52] <metaspike> i doubt i'm -the- man, but thanks :)
[10:53] <metaspike> why would you want to kill cron? curiously
[10:55] <snpresent> what the hell
[10:58] <Jordy> cfhowlett: I enabled the universed repo. Another error occured now: php5-snmp, rrdtool, snmp has no installation candidate
[10:59] <metaspike> Jordy, apt-get update first...
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Jordy, this ^^^
[11:00] <metaspike> so does ubuntu have an option to disable amazon junk when installing yet? :)
[11:01] <IceBot3000> metaspike: Yes, it's called Debian
[11:01] <cfhowlett> metaspike, easily disabled
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !nolens
[11:01] <Jordy> cfhowlett: I get some 404 errors in my apt-get update log.
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !paste | Jordy, paste
[11:03] <Jordy> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/yFmgcKWJ
[11:03] <cfhowlett> Jordy, fpaste.org         pastebin blocked by china firewall
[11:04] <Ben64> Jordy: why does it say old-releases???
[11:04] <__unik> lol lol cfhowlett I am sorry to say but China seems unpleased when citizens use US products
[11:05] <Svetlana> yFmgcKWJ repasted to http://fpaste.org/139844/12679871/ cfhowlett
[11:05] <Ben64> Jordy: what version of ubuntu are you running
[11:05] <cfhowlett> _unreal_, ehhh the great firewall blocks all kinds of strange things
  webproxy  with ssl https://www.xperienc.com
[11:05] <Jordy> Ben64: buntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Jordy, yep, what in the world is old-release doing there?
[11:06] <Jordy> chalcedony: How can i fix that?
[11:06] <Ben64> Jordy: ok, so how did you get old-releases in there? did you upgrade in a weird way? are you lying about being on 14.04?
[11:06] <Jordy> Ben64: I googled and tried a lot to install cacti
[11:06] <Ben64> Jordy: still doesn't explain old-releases
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Jordy, your sources will not work because 14.04 is not an old release.  rebild and replace "old release" entries. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[11:06] <Jordy> Ben64: That's the reason why you can find there a repo to old releases.
[11:07] <Ben64> Jordy: can you repeat that in english
[11:07] <snpresent> cfhowlett> your welcome
[11:08] <cfhowlett> snpresent, new one!  trying now.  thanks!
[11:09] <scotsguy> hey all
[11:09] <snpresent> what is your issues
[11:11] <metaspike> it's surprisingly quiet
[11:11] <cfhowlett> snpresent, <english teacher mode> your you're
[11:11] <cfhowlett> yore
[11:11] <metaspike> all issues resolved, close the channel, all done
[11:12] <__unik> metaspike: not yet
[11:12] <__unik> metaspike: how to shut down my system ?
[11:12] <__unik> metaspike: not quiet anymoar
[11:12] <snpresent> cfhowlett what you mean?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> snpresent, never mind
[11:13] <__unik> cfhowlett you ate dinner ah?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> __unik, yep
[11:13] <__unik> hola sounds cool lah
[11:13] <__unik> hola hola
[11:14]  * __unik not racist, just kidding
[11:16] <__unik> Unity and ubuntu software center is painfully slow in my computer
[11:16] <__unik> Am I the only one?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> __unik, sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4          logout/choose alternate desktop environment/login
[11:17] <__unik> cfhowlett: I am using gnome classic well.
[11:17] <__unik> thanks for advise
[11:17] <__unik> advice*
[11:22] <hillary> i need to install mysql, apache2 and php and phpmyadmin in my ubuntu 14.04. any good tutorial to do that?
[11:23] <DoctorWedgeworth> I'm trying to permit root password SSH login for a trusty box but I'm getting "ROOT LOGIN REFUSED" in auth.log. PasswordAuthentication yes is set, PermitRootLogin yes is set, it's not overridden elsewhere, there's no Allow or DenyUsers, and PAM isn't using pam_access.so or anything. Am I missing something in Ubuntu?
[11:23] <hateball> !lamp | hillary
[11:24] <hillary> exactly thank you
[11:24] <Jordy> cfhowlett:  I get a next error: php5-snmp : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.3 is to be installed
[11:27] <snpresent> please use ppa
[11:27] <snpresent> Jordy please use ppa
[11:28] <IceBot3000> You don't need a PPA for LAMP on Ubuntu
[11:29] <Jordy> snpresent: ppa?
[11:29] <__unik> Jordy: that's a googlable term.
[11:29] <__unik> google it
[11:29] <IceBot3000> *or a more reputable search engine
 maybe can solve something
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !lamp | Jordy,
[11:34] <Ben64> Jordy: seriously, what version of linux are you actually running
[11:36] <DrManhattan> what version of the install medium do I need to utilize sw raid?
[11:36] <DoctorWedgeworth> I'm trying to permit root password SSH login for a trusty box but I'm getting "ROOT LOGIN REFUSED" in auth.log. PasswordAuthentication yes is set, PermitRootLogin yes is set, it's not overridden elsewhere, there's no Allow or DenyUsers, ChallengeResponseAuthentication is set and PAM isn't using pam_access.so or anything. Am I missing something in Ubuntu?
[11:36] <DrManhattan> there doesn't appear to be an "alternate" install medium anymore
[11:37] <Ben64> DrManhattan: server perhaps, or mini
[11:37] <platzhirsch> I installed libtag1-dev but I cannot find the headers in /usr/lib, any idea where to look?
[11:37] <Ben64> DoctorWedgeworth: that really isn't recommended
[11:38] <ShrewdSpirit> hello
[11:38] <metaspike> DoctorWedgeworth, root logins are a bad idea, try something else.
[11:38] <DoctorWedgeworth> it'll be fine Ben64 / metaspike, but any idea why it's not working?
[11:39] <ShrewdSpirit> I've just installed xubuntu but when I turn on my laptop it grub doesnt show windows and it only boots xubuntu
[11:39] <ShrewdSpirit> BTW I have windows 8.1 and it was using GPT which I removed it to install linux :D
[11:39] <DoctorWedgeworth> the ROOT LOGIN REFUSED is coming with a preauth addendum in the logs, not sure if that's relevant
[11:40] <Ben64> DoctorWedgeworth: whats wrong with using sudo
[11:40] <metaspike> DoctorWedgeworth, have a look in /var/log/sshd.log
[11:40] <metaspike> and consider there's alot of things that try to prevent root logins, including apparmor / selinux
[11:41] <snpresent> DoctorWedgeworth have you set password for root
[11:41] <IceBot3000> Ubuntu doesn't use SELinux
[11:41] <metaspike> preach, preach
[11:41] <hateball> !root
[11:41] <ikonia> DoctorWedgeworth: is this a physical machine or a vps ?
[11:42] <metaspike> ubuntu itself its pretty well 'anti-root'
[11:42] <DoctorWedgeworth> I've set the root password so it's not that, it's a physical server
[11:42] <ikonia> DoctorWedgeworth: can you su -
[11:43] <sakatovic> ciao
[11:43] <DoctorWedgeworth> yeah su - works (just tested it). There is no sshd.log, but auth.log just says  ROOT LOGIN REFUSED
[11:43] <sakatovic> !lista
[11:43] <sakatovic> ciao
[11:43] <hillary> Thank guys phpmyadmin running well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:43] <sakatovic> !lista
[11:43] <DJones> sakatovic: There are no lists
[11:44] <ikonia> DoctorWedgeworth: you have restarted sshd ?
[11:44] <ikonia> (after making the changes)
[11:44] <DoctorWedgeworth> yeah ikonia :) good check though, I've made that mistake before
[11:44] <DoctorWedgeworth> I might run the daemon with debug flags
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config
 find PermitRootLogin no
[11:46] <sakatovic> ciao
[11:46] <CiSense> hi, i have a 32 bit 14.04 installed on one drive, is it ok to install a 64 bit version  on another drive using the "alongside" option?
[11:47] <ikonia> CiSense: not something I'd recommend, but you can do it
[11:48] <CiSense> ikonia, not recommend?
[11:48] <ikonia> yes
[11:49] <CiSense> why not?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> CiSense, agreed.  choose a lane.  32 bit or 64 bit.
[11:49] <CiSense> i want to compare performance withouit destroying my working 32 bit system
[11:49] <DrManhattan> ok guys, any help at all? ubuntu 14.04 on software raid?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !raid | DrManhattan
[11:50] <DrManhattan> this was really easy on 12.04 with the alternate iso
[11:50] <Ben64> CiSense: 64 is not going to be worse
[11:50] <CiSense> Ben64, I'm hoping it will fix some nvidia driver issues
[11:51] <DrManhattan> cfhowlett, that page is not pertinent to 14.04
[11:51] <DoctorWedgeworth> urgh it was a problem with the init script. /etc/init.d/ssh *anything* wasn't affecting the running process. I kill -9'd it and it's re-read sshd_config now. Thanks for your help
[11:52] <Ben64> DoctorWedgeworth: you should start using "service"
[11:52] <__zug__> Hi, I woke up this morning and noticed that I don't have any sound. I've already checked if it's on mute, which is not the case. What else can I check? I've never had this happen before, fairly new laptop too.
[11:53] <Guest2757> I have a laptop running Windows 8 pre-loaded. I'd attempted to install Ubuntu 12.04 on it earlier, but that wasn't working for some reason. I installed Trusty now, and rather foolishly opted to remove the earlier Ubuntu installation. The problem is... Trusty isn't starting either. But my concern is now related to the fact that grub doesn't even show the Windows IS on startup. Did I lose my Windows? AFAIK, I'd put Windows in hiberna
[11:54] <DrManhattan> lubuntu has an alternate image. Where is the alternate image for straight Ubuntu?
[11:54] <metaspike> __zug__, alsamixer? /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart? there's like a billion things you could try
[11:54] <DJones> DrManhattan: Alternate images no longer exists for Ubuntu
[11:54] <lorentedford> I have a question regarding 14.04 LTS with Nvidia and intel graphics card dual graphics on my laptip
[11:54] <lorentedford> I have a question regarding 14.04 LTS with Nvidia and intel graphics card dual graphics on my laptop
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Guest2757, depends on exactly what options you chose and what your hardware is.  possibly you removed windows.  but you have your windows restore disk handy, right?
[11:55] <DrManhattan> DJones, how do we do software raid installs now?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> lorentedford, ask
[11:55] <metaspike> Guest2757, change your nick please :) and.. does gparted show a ntfs volume?
[11:55] <DJones> DrManhattan: Its not something I've done so I can't make a suggestion for that
[11:56] <Guest2757> cfhowlett - Nope. not with me right now.. :(
[11:56] <dsafdsdfssdfdsfd> helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :hel
[11:56] <lorentedford> what is the best way to install both graphics cards i get this error that opengl does not eiist with many of my programs however cant figure out why i am having so many issues when i can still use silverlight
[11:56] <snpresent> DoctorWedgeworth what is urgh means?
[11:57] <DoctorWedgeworth> it's a noise people make in anger sometimes
[11:57] <DJones> DrManhattan: Section 6 of this guide may be helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/install.en.pdf
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Guest2757, suggest you fix windows THEN install Ubuntu.
[11:57] <cable> heh cfhowlett ^^!
[11:57] <cable> Is that even possible? :p
[11:57] <geirha> spam fail :)
[11:57] <lorentedford> lol windows will fail every time lol...
[11:58] <Guest2757> metaspike - don't know.. how do i check?
[11:58] <metaspike> Guest2757, search for gparted
[11:59] <lorentedford> did you say gparted works with windows 8 but will toast the drive for 7?
[11:59] <lorentedford> lol.. learned that one the hard way
[11:59] <DrManhattan> DJones, I appreciate it. I think it's ridiculous that ubuntu simply threw out support for sw raid in the installer. At least lubuntu still has an alternate image.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> DrManhattan, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#software-raid          seems to be current
[12:00] <requiem8> hello
[12:00] <metaspike> Guest2757, or if you can get a terminal running, do a 'lsblk' and tell me what the ntfs partition is
[12:00] <safiyyah> My X server is broken. On the Nvidia X Server Settings it says that ' Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page: The NVIDIA X driver on safiyyah:0.0 is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display
[12:00] <safiyyah>  From the last installation my notes say the 173 driver is the right one and all others don't work because my card is Nvidia Geforce 8400
[12:01] <safiyyah> help anyone?
[12:01] <requiem8> I have a problem I have xubuntu and sometimes the wireless got disconnected and I dont know why
[12:01] <metaspike> Guest2757, "Alt+Ctrl+T"
[12:01] <DrManhattan> cfhowlett, that is for for 12.04, not 14.04.
[12:01] <requiem8> If I reboot the wireless come back
[12:02] <cfhowlett> DrManhattan, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[12:02] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#software-raid
[12:03] <DrManhattan> cfhowlett, thank you. Server edition it is.
[12:03] <cfhowlett> DrManhattan, happy2help
[12:04] <snpresent> requiem8 install wick please
[12:04] <snpresent> sorry wicd
[12:05] <requiem8> what is wick ?
[12:05] <snpresent> requiem8 sorry wicd
[12:05] <safiyyah> DJones, nice to see you, any idea about my issue?
[12:05] <snpresent> requiem8 wicd
[12:06] <metaspike> safiyyah, what did you do before this happened? try dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-settings
[12:06] <snpresent> safiyyah please use open source driver
[12:06] <metaspike> or that
[12:06] <metaspike> prop. drivers such a hassle
[12:07] <requiem8> snpresent Ok installation finish
[12:07] <requiem8> I launch wicd  now ?
[12:07] <safiyyah> metaspike I changed the wallpaper on the gdm, and it broke
[12:07] <snpresent> yes ，hope it will work
[12:08] <requiem8> ok
[12:08] <metaspike> ah... then dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:08] <requiem8> launched
[12:08] <metaspike> maybe, im guessing :)
 then ....
[12:09] <requiem8> nothing happened
 not load wlan0
[12:09] <snpresent> ?
[12:10] <safiyyah> metaspike do I want gdm or light gdm?
 try load wlan0
[12:10] <poizen> does any of you use Steam on Linux?
[12:10] <requiem8> ok how ?
[12:10] <safiyyah> gone to reboot
[12:11] <cfhowlett> poizen, millions do
 use your mouse right click wicd
 then configure it
[12:11] <jodfsdfmcsmelly> helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :hell
[12:12] <qlr> hello?
[12:12] <qlr> is this an ubuntu?
[12:12] <ikonia> hello
[12:12] <ikonia> it is
[12:12] <qlr> neat!
[12:12] <requiem8> ok im in wicd
[12:12] <cfhowlett> qlr, ask your ubuntu questions
[12:12] <requiem8> I can configure my network
[12:12] <qlr> neah, im fine, thanks
[12:13] <qlr> i just installed xchat and ... here i am :)
 it works?
[12:13] <requiem8> yeah
 issue solved
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <requiem8> yeah I wait and I see if my wireless get disconnected again
 maybe
[12:16] <poizen> i'm facing major issues cfhowlett , my computer crashes while playing global offensive
[12:16] <qlr> didn't x-chat used to have a "black theme"?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> poizen, could be steam, could be your hardware ...
[12:18] <poizen> probably steam, my hardware drivers and my system is updated
[12:18] <poizen> also, my hardware doesn't have any flaws :) cfhowlett
[12:18] <cfhowlett> ... o k
[12:20] <qlr> okay guys
[12:20] <qlr> i kinda have an ubuntu question :)
[12:20] <qlr> i apparently somehow  mindlessly set up the locale for ro-RO
[12:21] <qlr> or ubuntu detected it at install time or whatnot
[12:21] <qlr> and thats annoying and i would like us-En locale...
[12:21] <cfhowlett> qlr, romania?
[12:21] <emx> how do i install projectlibre?
[12:21] <qlr> yesh :)
[12:21] <metaspike> could be worse :)
[12:21] <cfhowlett> qlr, it happens. there is a command - wait 1
[12:22] <qlr> cfhowlett, but like my konsole is okay
[12:22] <emx> i could download an rpm, but i guess there is another way.
[12:22] <qlr> but delphin and skype and whatnot are all romanian :)
[12:22] <cfhowlett> qlr, so you do NOT want romanian?
[12:22] <metaspike> lol
[12:22] <qlr> nope
[12:22] <qlr> why would i?
[12:22] <qlr> iso 8600 all the way, baby
[12:23] <metaspike> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:23] <cfhowlett> metaspike, ^^^ this one I think - also purge unwanted languages from language support
[12:23] <qlr> it generates a lot of locales
[12:23] <qlr> liek a heckton of en_
[12:24] <qlr> and one ro_
[12:24] <qlr> how do i... remove all of them besides en_US.UTF-8?
[12:24] <qlr> or how do i set or check the default locale?
[12:25] <qlr> (im used to centos and gentoo but only on server side, last time i was using X compiz-fusion was crashing every 10 seconds)
[12:26] <snpresent> that's how could i say
[12:26] <OverCoder> the #ubuntu channel has a lot more users than #windows one :P
[12:27] <RemuN> hey I need help getting to a TTY, when I press ctrl+alt+F1 I just get a blank screen
[12:27] <RemuN> I tried booting into text mode, same blank screen
[12:27] <qlr> update-locale LANG=the-locale-that-i-want
[12:27] <qlr> cfhowlett, is this what i was looking for? :D
[12:28] <cfhowlett> qlr, yep
[12:28] <qlr> srsly tho...didn't xchat have a black theme?
[12:28] <qlr> my eyes are burning out
[12:29] <requiem8> Ok I think now its work
[12:29] <requiem8> thank for the help
[12:29] <snpresent> requiem8 yeah
[12:30] <qlr> cfhowlett, something similar to xampp on windoze?
[12:30] <qlr> (its a lamp stack but has perl as well)
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !lamp | qlr,
[12:30] <requiem8> ok see ya
[12:31] <snpresent> see ya
[12:33] <qlr> cfhowlett, looks pretty straight forward... recommanded gui sql client? (on windoze i was using sqlyog)
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !sql | qlr,
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !mysql
[12:34] <cfhowlett> qlr, errr wait 1.  gotta slap the factoid bot around
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !alis
[12:34] <regebro> Hello again Ubuntu. I'm sorry I cheated on you with Fedora. My workmates told me it was a good idea. They said EVERYONE thought Fedora was nicer than you. They were wrong. I'm back. Please don't tell my boss.
[12:34] <qlr> wait wait wait
[12:35] <qlr> isn't Fedora yum based? :D
[12:35] <cfhowlett> qlr, debian based.  ask about sql in #ubuntu-server
[12:35] <cfhowlett> qlr, in fact, as you seem server-centric, ask #ubuntu-server
[12:39] <lmat> My terminal doesn't have any menu items. Is this normal?
[12:39] <lmat> When I maximize, then move my mouse up to the top bar, only close, minimize, and maximize buttons show up.
[12:39] <qlr> found a promising mysql client... MySQL Workbench, so im gonna check that out and get the lamp stack up and running, tyvm for ur help cfhowlett and metaspike (and ubottu lol)
[12:40] <cfhowlett> qlr, happy2help
[12:40] <Wollie88> @lmat yes this is normal on the stock terminal
[12:41] <boriseto> How to change the default video player in Firefox? Does somebody know how to make it VLC (specific)? For example: when I have totem installed (with the mozilla plugin) it takes totem in mind, if it's deleted it takes the default video player of mozilla.
[12:41] <lmat> Wollie88: I was nearly positive that there were some options, like startup-sizing, etc. Oh well ^_^
[12:41] <lmat> Wollie88: What I'm looking for now is how to change the colour scheme. That dark purple background is too bright and the bright white lettering is too bright, too
[12:41] <lmat> It'd be nice to have a darker theme.
[12:42] <Wollie88> why not install an other more configurable terminal emulator ?
[12:43] <tahr202921> hi
[12:43] <Mi_37183> Hi, could someone make me a "é" in utf-8?
[12:44] <DJones>  +b *!*@d122-109-129-245.adl801.sa.optusnet.com.au
[12:45] <steffen> How can I time an application and send its output to /dev/null but
[12:45] <steffen> 	  still reveive the output from time?
[12:46] <steffen> or in other words: how can i put parenthesis in the command line? I want something like: time (myapplication > /dev/null)
[12:49] <steffen> hahaha, it works with the parenthesis xDD!!
[12:49] <sui> steffen: why do you need parenthesis?  you can use time myapp 1>/dev/null
[12:49] <sui> -1
[12:50] <possiblyscrewed> @cfhowlett, @metaspike - Hi guys, I was on here a while ago, with my problem of a broken installation of Trusty on a machine that already had Windows 8 installed. I managed to get to another computer - but here's the entire problem. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8514350/
[12:50] <SASDOE> if you want you can `time func() {your_app > /dev/null};your_app
[12:50] <SASDOE> No
[12:50] <steffen> sui: yes that works too, but why does it not pipe the output of time to /dev/null? what does the 1 change in this?
[12:51] <SASDOE> your_func() {your_app>/dev/null}; time your_func
[12:52] <BluesKaj> possiblyscrewed, are you running ubuntu atm?
[12:52] <sui> steffen: forget the "1" if you don't need any output - why do you want to time it?
[12:52] <possiblyscrewed> BluesKaj - well..I'm on a different PC..
[12:52] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, hibernate?  what were you thinking?  nevermind.  I suspect you'll have to reinstall windows, but ask ##windows if there's an option to restore from your recovery disks- oh wait.  Remember your FIRST windows boot?  Where you were warned/advised to make a recovery disk?  ##windows is your friend
[12:53] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - I'll post on windows.. but is there no way to recover the data
[12:53] <possiblyscrewed> ?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, ask windows.
[12:54] <possiblyscrewed> BluesKaj - I do have access to the command line login for the new Windows installation
[12:54] <susundberg> steffen: also see time parameter '--output' - time output defaults to stderr
[12:54] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, you MIGHT be able to boot an ubuntu usb but since it's in hibernation, I believe it's locked
[12:54] <cable> cfhowlett locked? :p
[12:54] <cable> and windows?
[12:54] <cable> wait whut?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> cable, hibernated
[12:54] <BluesKaj> possiblyscrewed, have you tried sudo update-grub on ubuntu to restore grub
[12:55] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - Well, in any case, logging in from a fresh session also would require a logon password.. so it's not too bad though is it?
[12:55] <cable> cfhowlett is it a externall device?
[12:55] <cable> so yes you're screwed :p
[12:55] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, you're asking all the windows questions here?  ##windows is your spot
[12:56] <cable> force a shutdown on the machine and try again xD
[12:56] <cable> is all I could say for now :p
[12:56] <possiblyscrewed> BluesKaj - no, I'd have to install grub first and connect to the net... I'll have to connect with a wired ethernet connection, as I'm on a college campus. Plus, I'd have to configure proxies
[12:56] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - sorry.. I'll take it over there
[12:58] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: to me it sounds like your grub is only wasted -- it should be quite easy to fix
[12:58] <yash> my sound card is not detected, only the video card : /
[12:59] <yash> when I run aplay -l I can see it there
[12:59] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: just boot to ubuntu and see with 'parted' command that windows partition is still there -- if it is, it surely can be recovered. If not, then you are screwed (you need paid help to recover the data)
[12:59] <yash> but when I check alsamixer it's dead
[12:59] <BluesKaj> then what is it , yash ?
[13:00] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg - That's comforting. I'm asking over on ##windows too.. but d'you have an idea of how to go about fixing it?
[13:00] <yash> BluesKaj,  ?
[13:00] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: yeah -- but i am leaving from work soon, so i cannot be here long helping out
[13:01] <BluesKaj> yash, dead, what do mean ?
[13:01] <yash> oh I mean that I can't raise the volume
[13:01] <yash> it says S/PDIF
[13:01] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg - right.. on it.. D'you mean 'parted' or 'gparted'?
[13:01] <yash> and that's it, no pcm
[13:01] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, from terminal run lsblk
[13:01] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: first you need to have internet connection (to chat with us here on irc) and to boot the machine to be rescued to ubuntu command line
[13:01] <metaspike> is there an ntfs partition?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> how about some details yash, the audio chip fore example
[13:02] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: parted, as you said you dont have graphical interface
[13:02] <ubuntuser13> Gparted ERROR:  informating kernel about partition modifaction. unable to mount on partition.
[13:02] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: also metaspike had good suggestion, lsblk should be easier
[13:03] <yash> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/qDJNVYBf
[13:03] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg - yeah.. I don't have internet access on that laptop, but I'm on a desktop which does, and have the laptop next to me.
[13:03] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: thats fine
[13:03] <lmat> Wollie88: Oh, didn't know there are any!
[13:04] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg, metaspike - I'm logged in to the CLI on the laptop now
[13:04] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg, metaspike - ...and no... there doesn't seem to be an NTFS partition
[13:05] <yash> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/yfAG1NX
[13:05] <otacon8710> ciao
[13:05] <otacon8710> list!
[13:05] <IceBot3000> !es | otacon8710
[13:05] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, sorry.. lsblk -f
[13:05] <BluesKaj> yash, open a terminal and do: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , if there's terminal no output than the driver loaded properly, then reboot . It's a known bug with some intel audio drivers.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> oops if there;s no terminal output , yash
[13:06] <sls> #als
[13:06] <metaspike> 'sudo lsblk -f' no less
[13:06] <sls> hello
[13:06] <yash> got no output, rebooting BluesKaj
[13:07] <metaspike> yash
[13:07] <farva> is there a text copy of this irc history?
[13:07] <yash> metaspike,
[13:08] <metaspike> sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[13:09] <Pici> !logs | farva
[13:09] <farva> ty guys
[13:09] <metaspike> oic.. why reboot? /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[13:09] <pngl> I have a problem with my touchpad. It gets disabled some time after reboot - I can still press-to-click, but not move the mouse nor tap-top-click. I have a Lenovo laptop so I can still use the trackpoint, but it's annoying! I've tried 'xinput set-prop <touchpad id> "Device Enabled" 1' with no result.
[13:09] <metaspike> hmm. maybe im just making that up
[13:11] <pngl> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04
[13:12] <yash> BluesKaj, still
[13:13] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg, metaspike - sorry guys, got disconnected.. are you still around? As I said.. lsblk doesn't display an ntfs partition
[13:13] <metaspike> did you try 'sudo lsblk -f'
[13:14] <yash> metaspike, http://imgur.com/M8U1ttB
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - no, simply lsblk
[13:14] <BluesKaj> yash,make sure automute in alsamixer is disabled
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - sudo lsblk -f shows me sda
[13:14] <lmat> Wollie88: What terminal emulator do you use?
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> (sda1 vfat /boot/efi
[13:14] <metaspike> yash, does your soundcard show up in alsamixer when you hit f6?
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> sda2 ext4
[13:15] <possiblyscrewed> sda3 swap
[13:15] <possiblyscrewed> and sr0
[13:15] <Wollie88> lmat: i use terminator
[13:15] <yash> metaspike,  yup it's on the 0 index
[13:16] <lmat> Wollie88: Ahh, do you use tmux?
[13:17] <Wollie88> lmat: i use screen
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yash, F6 to choose the soundcard if you don't want just spdif
[13:20] <BluesKaj> gotta go...bbl
[13:20] <lmat> Sometimes, I run commands with verbose outputs. They hog the whole bandwidth of the console such that I can't even switch consoles.
[13:20] <yash> I do choose the soundcard but nothing changes
[13:21] <lmat> I press ^c, but I still have to wait a *long* time for the buffer to run out or something.
[13:21] <lmat> How can i get around this?
[13:22] <metaspike> yash, i suggest trying this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto and looking into dmesg... and see what 'pulseaudio --start' does, incase its not loading
[13:22] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - sorry, disconnected again. Flaky connection. So, there was no ntfs partition displayed using either sudo lsblk -f or simply lsblk. Simply typing parted doesn't display any device either.
[13:24] <LYC4Nbeat>  /msg NickServ identify secretpassword
[13:24] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, lets assume you've formatted your drive with ubuntu.
[13:25] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - so that's it then? No way to recover the data?
[13:25] <metaspike> well.. there's this: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[13:26] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, ^celta^^ good luck with that
[13:26] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - celta?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, ignore
[13:29] <LYC4Nbeat> join
[13:35] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - Been reading the CGSecurity page. Won't boot-repair help? Doesn't it do something similar? Otherwise, I guess that's it then. I'll have to check it in for professional support (don't know if they'll help with step by step recovery though). Thanks for the help!
[13:35] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, http://en.altlinux.org/Regular in your position i would boot from this and run test-disk, as further disk writes remove shadow blocks
[13:37] <helmut_> hi
[13:38] <hdtune2k> hi
[13:39] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - thanks. To make doubly sure => Boot off a liveUSB session of Alt-linux, connect to the web, download and install test-disk, and then run it? Which flavvour under "main" on that link should I use?
[13:40] <hdtune2k> I want to know about how to prevent my linux to be attack from a wifi network via Mitm
[13:41] <metaspike> any flavor, depends on your style. cd burn could be easier. it comes with testdisc, and photorec. two great recovery options.
[13:41] <vbgunz> anyone know Nvidia persistenced daemon constantly says failed on every bootup?
[13:41] <metaspike> you will need a seperate drive to copy recovered data too
[13:41] <cfhowlett> hdtune2k, https everything and use ssl whenever possible.  also enable ufw
[13:42] <hdtune2k> But seems like the arpspoof utilities can catch SSL information
[13:43] <hdtune2k> Can I lock my router's MAC address?
[13:43] <metaspike> i doubt you can hide it, but you can usually spoof it
[13:43] <hdtune2k> ok
[13:44] <hdtune2k> Thanks
[13:46] <nido> when i log in to a ubuntu 12.4lts server i get a message saying "N packages can be updated. M  updates are security updates."; is it possible to get an overview of which packages have specifically security updates?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !server | nido
[13:48] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - Well, I've got my work cut out then. Thanks for the help.
[13:48] <metaspike> fare thee well
[13:51] <metaspike> nido, apt-listchanges
[13:52] <nido> metaspike: thank you
[13:52] <metaspike> send food
[13:53] <Naphatul> pwmconfig can't find pwm capable sensors, i ran sensors-detect first and i'm sure the cpu fan is controllable
[13:53] <Naphatul> how can i fix it?
[13:54] <metaspike> is lm-sensors installed?
[13:54] <Naphatul> yes, can you even run sensors-detect without it?
[13:55] <Naphatul> anyway, i think the issue is the module it87, it detected it but now i tried to manually load it and it says device or resource busy
[13:55] <Naphatul> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'it87': Device or resource busy
[13:58] <Naphatul> from what i found a possible fix is, "acpi_enforce_resources=lax" but i don't want to try it as it seems like a bad idea
[13:59] <metaspike> lax aye.
[13:59] <clumsy_bot> What file systems do you use for external hard drives?
[13:59] <clumsy_bot> I
[13:59] <clumsy_bot> I've noticed if I formatted my external hard drives to ext systems, I cannot write to them unless I am root.
[14:01] <Naphatul> clumsy_bot, that's probably because you've set the permissions wrong
[14:01] <clumsy_bot> Naphatul, How should I modify the permissions to allow anybody connecting it on a Linux system to write to it?
[14:02] <clumsy_bot> Naphatul, Should I be changing the group ownership to 'storage'?
[14:06] <yash> metaspike, looks like my codec is a bug in ubuntu
[14:06] <Naphatul> clumsy_bot, i'm not sure what or even if a storage group is premade in ubuntu
[14:07] <Naphatul> but you want to add all users to the group and set the appropriate permissions
[14:07] <metaspike> try sudo usermod -a -G plugdev [username]  , isn't plugdev supposed to handle this sort of thing?
[14:07] <yash> I have Realtalk ALC1200 and nothing worked for that so far
[14:08] <clumsy_bot> Naphatul, Some online threads I've found have suggested adding groups would only solve the problem for users already within those groups.
[14:08] <metaspike> clumsy_bot, ^
[14:09] <Naphatul> clumsy_bot, yes all users would need to be in the group
[14:09] <clumsy_bot> Naphatul, A notable one has suggested change UID values.
[14:09] <Naphatul> if you want it to be accessible to everyone just make it world read/write able
[14:09] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, I formatted an external hard drive to ext3 in Arch, I can't write to it in Ubuntu 14.04.
[14:10] <metaspike> yash, what's the output of 'lsmod | grep snd' pastebin
[14:10] <metaspike> or just lsmod...
[14:11] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, I just reformatted it again in Ubuntu 14.04 via mkfs
[14:11] <Naphatul> so is there no way to fix it properly without acpi_enforce_resources=lax ?
[14:11] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/gwUdJfhE
[14:11] <metaspike> clumsy_bot, if you add your user to plugdev (or is that storage?) group, then after a login logout it might work
[14:11] <yash> metaspike, http://pastebin.com/ADCMmm8L
[14:12] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Typing groups term suggests that my user is in the plugdev group.
[14:12] <clumsy_bot> Permissions for the drive are under root. There is no other way to format a drive though.
[14:14] <metaspike> yeah, but if your automounting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB then it should be groovy?
[14:17] <bencc> can I install debian packages on ubuntu?
[14:17] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, This drive is connected via a SATA cable into my desktop, but for all intents and purposes, it acts like an external to my main setup.
[14:17] <bencc> I need gstreamer 1.4 https://packages.debian.org/sid/gstreamer1.0-tools
[14:18] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, I can plug in USB flash drives and have no problem because FAT32 doesn't support permissions.
[14:18] <iscorpion> please tell me how can i install 32bits shared libs on 64bit?
[14:19] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, This is about the only external drive I can test. If I switched to NTFS it wouldn't be a problem, but I exclusively run Linux on everything I have, so I thought a Linux file system would be better performance overall.
[14:19] <iscorpion> ia32b-libs not working
[14:20] <iscorpion> ia32-libs not working
[14:20] <clumsy_bot> iscorpion, Doesn't Ubuntu include the i386 architectures by default?
[14:21] <iscorpion> clumsy_bot i think not in 14.04
[14:21] <clumsy_bot> iscorpion, Try dpkg --add-architecture
[14:22] <clumsy_bot> I remembered using that command while I was in Debian.
[14:22] <iscorpion> ok, lemme try
[14:22] <clumsy_bot> iscorpion, Once that's done, you can try apt-get update and searching for the package in apt-cache.
[14:22] <clumsy_bot> iscorpion, If that doesn't work, perhaps take a look at the man page for apt-get, it should cover specifying architectures for packages.
[14:23] <iscorpion> thanku will look can u give me the link plz my net is slow atm :)
[14:24] <clumsy_bot> iscorpion, Just type 'man apt-get' in your terminal. You should be able to get it there. :)
[14:24] <metaspike> clumsy_bot, you want to mount automatically or manually?
[14:24] <Naphatul> i have i386 enabled on 14.04 and i don't remember explicitly enabling it
[14:24] <iscorpion> hahha manual ok
[14:24] <negroidanimal> Incest is best, put your sister to the test
[14:24] <clumsy_bot> iscorpion, 'man' is used to call up the man page for the relevant function, so you can do 'man dpkg' to learn more.
[14:24] <iscorpion> ok ok
[14:24] <stianhj> bencc: find a gstreamer ppa?
[14:25] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, It isn't auto-mounting, it's manually mounting currently. Although to be honest, I've been wanting to figure this thing out not just for Ubuntu, but for Arch and other relevant distros.
[14:25] <bencc> stianhj: the official ppa hasn't updated https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:27] <metaspike> clumsy_bot, add a line to /etc/fstab   '/dev/sdX    /mnt/sdX  ext3   user,rw,noauto,umask=000              0  0'
[14:27] <metaspike> noauto or auto, for manual or manual
[14:27] <metaspike> noauto for manual, auto for auto
[14:27] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Alright. This solves the problem for that particular system though right?
[14:28] <scotsguy> is there way to move task bar in ubuntu 14
[14:28] <metaspike> all systems. it's the same.
[14:28] <scotsguy> from side to bottom
[14:28] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, But I have to implement this on all systems that I will be using the drive with right?
[14:30] <metaspike> yep, and use UUID=[whatever]  instead of /dev/sdX  if you have too
[14:30] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, I had hoped for a simple, elegant solution that would solve the problem via some form of permissions/ownership. Perhaps that's a bit of a pipe dream.
[14:30] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, But even ownership/permissions has its own problems.
[14:31] <metaspike> this is as elegant as it can get, lowlevel
[14:31] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Would it be easier if I just moved to a permission-agnostic file system such as NTFS?
[14:31] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Perhaps this problem is inherent to multi-user operating systems, would that be a correct statement?
[14:32] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, I'm planning to setup an easy backup facility for my /home partition via rsync so I'm investigating all relevant doubts/questions before buying a new drive.
[14:32] <clumsy_bot> Hand-me-down hard drives do not exactly instil any confidence.
[14:33] <elferhw> hello, dont know much about ubuntu or computers for that matter...just upgraded to 14.04 and pretty much any time i use the internet the computer slows down dramatically, cpu usage spikes, and my hard drive starts doing some wierd stuf...
[14:33] <elferhw> could anyone help?
[14:35] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, What network adapter?
[14:35] <IceBot3000> elferhw: You're being monitored by the NSA
[14:36] <elferhw> yeah...network adapter? how can i find this out for you?
[14:37] <elferhw> haha i would like to apologize beforehand for my ineptitude
[14:38] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, lspci?
[14:39] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, Are you using wireless or ethernet?
[14:39] <metaspike> clumsy_bot, ntfs still has permissions, it's just that they're ignored by linux, ntfs support in linux is not good
[14:39] <elferhw> wireless
[14:39] <hanz> hi
[14:40] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Ah, so in summary, the most elegant solution is to simply add the UUID into fstab?
[14:40] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, 'lspci | grep Wireless'
[14:40] <metaspike> yup
[14:40] <metaspike> and those options
[14:40] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, First time I've encountered that.
[14:41] <elferhw> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[14:41] <metaspike> user has read write access without auto mount with full permissions
[14:41] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, I added my entry. It looks something like 'UUID=<drive a UUID> none ext3 user,noauto,rw 0 0'
[14:41] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, Should be fine on its own then, Intel has open-source drivers.
[14:42] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, Perhaps try taking a look at 'Additional Drivers'
[14:42] <metaspike> noauto/auto, you prob want auto
[14:42] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Auto is auto-mounting yes?
[14:42] <metaspike> yup
[14:43] <metaspike> hotplug, maybe just remove it altogether
[14:43] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, hotplug? Allows it to mount whenever needed?
[14:44] <felon> !hot
[14:44] <metaspike> auto means (it's just been plugged in! mount it!)
[14:44] <metaspike> :)
[14:44] <felon> opps
[14:45] <clumsy_bot> metaspike, Yea I get that one. You said something about 'hotplug', so I thought that was another option or something. :p
[14:45] <elferhw> clumsy_bot, thanks for the help, how would i go about taking a look at additional drivers? If at any point you decide this is too much work for someone with too little knowledge about this just let me know
[14:45] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, Honestly, it could be a myriad of other factors causing the lag spikes.
[14:46] <clumsy_bot> elferhw, Drivers are one of the possible contributing factors. Other factors could include: lack of RAM, wireless power saving etc.
[14:47] <elferhw> clumsy_bot, yeah, dont worry, thank you, wish i had some more specifics, i will dig further and see if i find anything, thanks again
[14:47] <clumsy_bot> He left in a hurry.
[14:47] <clumsy_bot> Was going to ask him to check out the ArchWiki...
[14:51] <AR45_> How to eject CD stuck in drive on ubuntu?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> AR45_, paperclip in the cd driver hole
[14:52] <stianhj> AR45_: the good ol' paperclip
[14:52] <AR45_> stianhj: I have a mac.
[14:52] <stianhj> AR45_: macs don't have the cd-rom hole?
[14:52] <metaspike> sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[14:52] <AR45_> stianhj: Nope
[14:53] <AR45_> stianhj: I typed eject -v and got it
[14:54] <AR45_> eject -v works
[14:58] <IceBot3000> Apple have removed CD drives from their recent computers I think
[14:59] <xsentinelx> must say ... loving my ubuntu experience :D
[15:00] <xsentinelx> I would like to thank Everyone making this possible!
[15:03] <Ascavasaion> When I close my laptop's display the laptop goes into hibernation.  How do I get it to come back out of hibernation?
[15:04] <metaspike> i cant believe im saying this put
[15:04] <metaspike> you push the power button
[15:04] <metaspike> that's what you do
[15:05] <Ascavasaion> metaspike: I tried that, does not work.
[15:05] <metaspike> ...
[15:06] <marianne> I'm having trouble moving files from 10.4 to my unix box running FreeBSD 10... broken pipe error
[15:06] <lukevinc> hello, how i install ziplib in my ubuntu? when i try to compress a .zip, it says:An error ocurrend while trying to add files to archive?
[15:06] <somsip> marianne: how are you moving them?
[15:07] <metaspike> marianne, check your syntax
[15:07] <metaspike> oops, lukevinc
[15:07] <marianne> somsip: locating the box in the network browsing window, then simple copy and paste (yes, I'm that lazy)
[15:08] <metaspike> try scp
[15:08] <marianne> metaspike: syntax of what? the end location?
[15:08] <somsip> marianne: I'm sorry - I don't know how GUIs work with that sort of thing. As metaspike says - scp is probably something to try
[15:08] <lukevinc> metaspike: what i have to install to zip works?
[15:09] <marianne> somsip: scp?
[15:09] <metaspike> lukevinc, 'man zip'  or 'zip --help'  check your syntax
[15:09] <somsip> marianne: are you familiar using the command line or terminal?
[15:09] <metaspike> scp -r ./files login@192.x.x.x
[15:10] <mohsen-rashidi> hello
[15:10] <metaspike> recusively copy files from here to there
[15:10] <mohsen-rashidi> i want to download some images from a site which are not in a single page but some pages. is it possible to download them all with on wget command?
[15:10] <metaspike> scp -r ./files login@192.x.x.x:/to/this/path
[15:10] <IceBot3000> mohsen-rashidi: Yes
[15:10] <marianne> somsip: yes, pretty comfortable with terminal
[15:10] <metaspike> scp -r /from/here login@192.x.x.x:/to/there
[15:11] <mohsen-rashidi> IceBot3000: Would you please show me how?
[15:11] <somsip> marianne: then as metaspike is telling you. If you have the IP for the BSD machine, and it's running the SSH server, you can copy them that way
[15:11] <xsentinelx> firefox + downloadthemall addon
[15:12] <lukevinc> metaspike: i'm trying to compress using the gui compress manager of ubuntu.
[15:13] <metaspike> bleh, better luck with xarchiver if you must gui
[15:14] <yash> going to buy a new soundcard to solve the issue of having no sound
[15:15] <marianne> thanks guy... I'll give it a try
[15:15] <jfmcarreira> heyy guys
[15:16] <lukevinc> until a see my marianne walking away...
[15:16] <DeathTech> In 14.04 XORG apparently removed something that makes the Matrox G200 not function properly. I have seen a few posts and a confirmed bug on launchpad. The options I have seen are downgrade X , or install 12.04. Out of curiousity, Has anyone here figured out a better way to force resolution  ?
[15:16] <jfmcarreira> i am having question about the lauchpad. is this the correct channel?
[15:17] <DeathTech> 1024x768 is awful (spoiled)
[15:17] <qlr> hello ubuntunians
[15:17] <qlr> how do i.... make... my hdmi thingy work?
[15:18] <qlr> as in the sound part of it
[15:18] <yash> anyone has a clue about a sound issue regarding intel card not being detected ? the codec is ALC 1200 ?
[15:18] <DeathTech> qlr : You will need to provide more information, what video card do you have ? is it HDCP compatible ?
[15:18] <qlr> DeathTech, i wanted to type more, but i swear to god i just fixed it somehow
[15:19] <qlr> but DeathTech i have another, less serious issue
[15:19] <DeathTech> qlr: the internet gods have smiled upon you
[15:19] <qlr> i wanna play dota2, man
[15:19] <DeathTech> qlr : sudo apt-get install steam
[15:19] <qlr> i installed steam and dota2 and all that jazz
[15:19] <qlr> started it up
[15:19] <g_rmz> I'm trying to install the latest version of Ubuntu on my notebook, but the installation stops in the very first instans, when there are the Ubuntu's logo and the "charging dots". Pressing the left arrows i've notice that it froze when the b43 driver is loaded, more or less.Someone can tell me what to do to continue and finish the installation?
[15:20] <g_rmz> I'm trying to install the latest version of Ubuntu on my notebook, but the installation stops in the very first instans, when there are the Ubuntu's logo and the "charging dots". Pressing the left arrows i've notice that it froze when the b43 driver is loaded, more or less. Some can help me?
[15:20] <DeathTech> g_rmz : Please dont flood the channel.
[15:20] <g_rmz> Sorry
[15:20] <DeathTech> g_rmz: You have a couple of options, if its locking like that I suggest disabling wifi in your bios during the install, then enabling it afterwards and install the b43 firmware
[15:21] <g_rmz> Ok, how i disable it?I've never do that..!
[15:21] <qlr> it did work and whatnot
[15:21] <qlr> but it had a really slow framerate
[15:22] <qlr> i suspect because its using the intel video card
[15:22] <qlr> and not the radeon
[15:22] <qlr> (im talking about a laptop here, its a lenovo g500)
[15:22] <qlr> DeathTech, any pointers?
[15:22] <DeathTech> g_rmz : its different for each manufacturer, but the generic version is you go into your BIOS (Usually F12 at the boot logo) and find the WiFi option in there somewhere, and disable it.
[15:23] <g_rmz> DeathTech: Ok!I'll try :) Thank you
[15:23] <DeathTech> g_rmz : NP ! :)
[15:24] <DeathTech> qlr : I dont own any AMD hardware, so i cant say for certain, but it sounds like you have graphics switching. You need to search and isntall the latest AMD catalyst driver
[15:26] <qlr> DeathTech, ill read up on it, and come back if i have issues, tyvm
[15:26] <DeathTech> qlr: np !
[15:26] <AR45_> #linux
[15:26] <DeathTech> #awesome
[15:29] <digitalkid> Anyone know how to configure window transparency in 14.04 when using gnome-session-fallback in a compiz session?
[15:33] <anonymos_> hi
[15:38] <AR45_> How to change my kernel?
[15:38] <somsip> AR45_: to what?
[15:38] <AR45_> somsip: 3.9
[15:38] <somsip> AR45_: what version of ubuntu are you running
[15:38] <AR45_> 14.04
[15:39] <AR45_> somsip: 14.04.
[15:39] <somsip> !info linux-generic
[15:39] <somsip> AR45_: you want to degrade it to 3.9 from current version of 3.13?
[15:40] <Rallias> How can I find what upstream version a ubuntu package correlates with? Package ejabberd doesn't seem to correlate with the upstream numbering scheme afaict.
[15:40] <yash> in alsamixer I have no master channel only S/PDIF
[15:40] <AR45_> somsip: Sorry, I didn't know it was on 3.13
[15:40] <somsip> AR45_: that's what the bot says, and it's what I'm on. What are you showing from uname -r
[15:41] <solooo> hello
[15:41] <AR45_> somsip: 3.13
[15:41] <somsip> AR45_: so are you okay at that or do you need 3.9?
[15:42] <kester__> hello
[15:43] <AR45_> somsip: No I'm okay. What I need to do is get Ubuntu booted in BIOS mode on my Macbook Pro; because in pure EFI X crashes.
[15:43] <somsip> AR45_: no idea about macs. maybe an other can help
[15:44] <solooo> whois kester__
[15:46] <ashley01> Hello, I need some help: I am installing AMD drivers directly from their website (newer than the proprietary drivers from the repository) and I have got to the stage where it has successfully generated 3 .deb packages. I do not know which package to install though.
[15:46]  * solooo #
[15:47] <ashley01> fglrx_14.301-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb, fglrx-dev_14.301-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb, fglrx-amdcccle_14.301-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb, have all been generated
[15:47] <kester__> hey
[15:47] <joelio> Doing a manual RAID install, the md0 device is no longer appearing in the parition menu. Done this hundreds of times before (not in 14.04) there a bug?
[15:47] <joelio> configures the RAID fine
[15:47] <joelio> go to another tty, cat /proc/mdstat all good
[15:48] <joelio> yet not enumerated by the installer (even though the installer created them)
[15:48] <joelio> so I can't mkfs and therefore install
[15:49] <joelio> simply bizarre, usually after creating, the new RAID appears to be paritioned in the installer, yet nothing
[15:49] <joelio> rebooted, still does show the md device
[15:49] <joelio> systemrecuse showing it fine
[15:49] <ashley01> oh wait, I might have solved it
[15:49] <solooo> wc
[15:54] <maraneta> hey guys.  so when i deploy a new server, i'm not sure why, but name resolution isn't working.  for example, i can do ssh 192.168.10.xxx, and it'll work, but if i do ssh foobar, i get a 'name or service not known' error.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:58] <iceroot> maraneta: is there a dns server for the local names?
[16:01] <maraneta> iceroot: i'm not sure.  i know i can access the server via name from other machines, just not this one
[16:06] <pavlos> maraneta, how does server foobar get its IP? from DHCP? the /etc/hostname should have the name foobar.
[16:06] <zeroke> yuup
[16:08] <maraneta> pavlos: yes, dhcp.  and yeah, the server has 'foobar' in /etc/hostname
[16:11] <pavlos> maraneta, what does your /etc/resolv.conf show?
[16:11] <astarahex>  i setup World Wide WhiteHat Hacker channel #astarahex , come join me
[16:11] <maraneta> pavlos: right now, it has nameserver 8.8.8.8
[16:14] <RonWhoCares> I need help. I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 onto an Asus computer which originally had "Windows 8" on it using UEFI for security.  I have downloaded the 14.04 ISO, burned it onto a DVD and put it into the DVD drive.   The problem I am having is the Asus computer won't boot the LiveDVD and allow me to "Try Ubuntu".  Instead the BIOS loads.  On the "Boot" BIOS option "Fast Boot" and...
[16:14] <RonWhoCares> ..."Launch CSM" are both disabled.  I have read the instructions @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   Without being able to access the LiveDVD and these BIOS options Disabled I am unsure of what to do.
[16:15] <AlexPortable> Is there some sort of wine for ubuntu? I want to run ubuntu programs on windows
[16:15] <AlexPortable> Specificly gnome-calculator
[16:15] <pavlos> maraneta, that a google DNS, I think your entry should be nameserver 127.0.0.1
[16:15] <RonWhoCares> AlexPortable: VirtualBox
[16:16] <AlexPortable> RonWhoCares: well it's a bit annoying to boot up virtualbox only to calculate something
[16:16] <RonWhoCares> AlexPortable: https://www.virtualbox.org/
[16:16] <maraneta> pavlos: changing it to that doesn't work.  and now i can't even ping google.com or anything else
[16:18] <pavlos> maraneta, what does route -n show? your routing has issues
[16:19] <maraneta> http://pastebin.com/fJz8vMkJ
[16:19] <maraneta> pavlos
[16:19] <wunder^> Hi, anyone got experience with WinTV-HVR-1900 on ubuntu?
[16:19] <wunder^> I got the firmware, device is created in /dev/video1, but I cannot see an image.
[16:22] <pavlos> maraneta, the last line should have a Metric of 1 ... do a man route t osee how you can modify that
[16:26] <oj> hi guys!
[16:26] <oj> my sound is not working
[16:26] <oj> how to reset my sound settings ??
[16:27] <oj> with out reinstalling ubuntu/
[16:27] <btodd> hi
[16:27] <btodd> i am new to ubuntu
[16:27] <oj> hi
[16:27] <btodd> i was wondering what a good firewall option would be for me?
[16:27] <btodd> i want one with a gui... one that i can ban specific ip addresses
[16:27] <Pici> !ufw
[16:27] <btodd> what options do i have?
[16:28] <Pici> btodd: See the message from ubottu above.
[16:28] <oj> my sound is not workin in my main user
[16:28] <oj> in other user its working?
[16:28] <oj> how to reset sound settings??
[16:29] <hplc> whats the syntax if i want to install gimp from source? "apt-get source -b gimp" ?
[16:30] <maraneta> pavlos: it says i should just use the 'metric M' command but it doesn't seem to be working =T
[16:32] <pavlos> maraneta, you can change the Metric via the ipconfig command as well. Did anything happen to your system and it lost connectivity?
[16:34] <maraneta> pavlos: no, i don't think so.  i can ping google.com and ping my server 'foo' through its ip, just not through its hostname
[16:35] <pavlos> maraneta, earlier you wrote you can NOT ping google.
[16:36] <maraneta> oh, that's what happened when i changed resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1
[16:36] <maraneta> but i changed it back to 8.8.8.8
[16:38] <OerHeks> maraneta, /etc/resolv.conf DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[16:39] <OerHeks> they made sure you read it in capital letters
[16:40] <maraneta> OerHeks: okay, so how should i get name resolution working without changing resolv.conf?
[16:40] <btodd> i want one with a gui... one that i can ban specific ip addresses
[16:40] <btodd> what options do i have?
[16:41] <btodd> a firewall
[16:41] <OerHeks> maraneta, see this page http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128220/how-do-i-set-my-dns-on-ubuntu-14-04
[16:41] <blackyboy> Hi everyone , How RAID 5 works ? If i have 6 drives and if any one the drive fails it will rebuild from 6th drive ? or it will rebuild from all 5 other drives ?  Please explain little.
[16:42] <genii> !info gufw | btodd
[16:42] <somsip> blackyboy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels#RAID_5
[16:42] <blackyboy> somsip: reading not helped so what asked here
[16:43] <Mazoft> hello
[16:43] <Mazoft> I have a problem with my uutnu
[16:43] <Mazoft> http://i.imgur.com/IutblKQ.png
[16:43] <btodd> please help me
[16:44] <Mazoft> I have unallocated space, and I would remove them
[16:44] <Pici> Mazoft: What do you want to do with the unallocated space?
[16:44] <Mazoft> move to / home
[16:45] <somsip> !guidelines
[16:45] <SJr> I didn't safely eject a hard disk from an external enclosure and now linux won't detect any drive there, when I eject or re-insert. How do I get it to reconnect?
[16:45] <SJr> It is an eSata drive.
[16:45] <Mazoft> Pici
[16:45] <Mazoft> Pici
[16:45] <Mazoft> Pici can you help me? ^-^
[16:46] <dewitt_> download a distro and error when trying to burn to disc
[16:46] <btodd> i am looking for a firewall with a GUI that i can use to ban specific ip addresses, etc... i will be using it to help ban players from my game servers.
[16:46] <btodd> i am looking for a firewall with a GUI that i can use to ban specific ip addresses, etc... i will be using it to help ban players from my game servers. does anybody have any recommendations?
[16:46] <Mazoft> help please
[16:46] <blackyboy> btodd: command line will be interesting than GUI, I love iptables Write-up
[16:47] <pavlos> btodd, there is a gufw package, install it
[16:47] <holymac_> when is the ubuntu phone coming out?
[16:47] <somsip> !touch | holymac_
[16:47] <popey> holymac_: soon
[16:48] <hplc> isnt "fail2ban" doing something like that?
[16:48] <hplc> whats the syntax if i want to install gimp from source? "apt-get source -b gimp" ?
[16:48] <btodd> pavlos what does that mean? i am new and learning.
[16:48] <squinty> Mazoft:  http://gparted.org/documentation.php  has good tutorials
[16:48] <somsip> hplc: fail2ban is just a set of trigger scripts that uses iptables
[16:49] <somsip> hplc: thought saying *just*, it is pretty good :)
[16:49] <pavlos> btodd, see http://gufw.org/
[16:49] <Boscop> i used win32diskimager to create a bootable usb drive. how can i reformat it as fat32 (in ubuntu) when windows can't read it and only offers 32MB?
[16:49] <hplc> somsip, but it can be used as a platform for personal tweaking?, or im mistaken?
[16:50] <btodd> pavlos do i get that from the software center?
[16:50] <wunder^> Hi, could anyone please help me out with WinTV-HVR-1900 on Ubuntu? I followed http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1900, installed the firmware, I get the device as /dev/video1 but nothing happens when I want to play it with say vlc ... Anyone please? dmesg: http://pastebin.com/bN4tQRs2 ... also http://pastebin.com/vZFpHaab http://pastebin.com/TRccqnp5 and lsusb http://pastebin.com/hZRB30xK and lsmod http://pastebin.com/7d8gqV
[16:50] <wunder^> hS ... Thanks :)
[16:50] <pavlos> btodd, look at the link I sent
[16:51] <somsip> hplc: no - if a user hits a specified service X number of times in Y time period, they can be blocked for Z time. Like that. Very customisable, but not a thing for permanent bans. Easier to just DROP indiviual IPs I find
[16:51] <btodd> pavlos you are a very handsome man and are very kind. thank you very much.
[16:51] <squinty> dewitt_:   first check the md5sum of the iso (details should be available via the iso download page) and if the md5sum is correct try burning at a low speed rather than maximum for your dvd burner.
[16:51] <btodd> pavlos do you know a good free hd porn website?
[16:51] <btodd> pavlos do you know a good free hd porn website?
[16:52] <pavlos> ops ... can you kick btodd?
[16:52] <btodd> please dont kick me
[16:54] <dewitt_> thanks
[16:58] <btodd> pavlos do you know a good free hd porn website?
[16:58] <wunder^> get lost btodd
[16:59] <pavlos> can someone contact ops -I dont know how- and kick that user off the channel?
[17:00] <Fuchs> pavlos: well, one could always poke #ubuntu-ops, but in this case one can also just ignore for now.
[17:00] <somsip> !ops | btodd (complaints from many people in the channel about this user including PMs)
[17:00] <Fuchs> Or, you know, try talking to them and catalysing, telling them that this isn't the place, instead or relying on ops.
[17:01] <btodd> why am i getting in trouble?
[17:01] <btodd> please dont get me in trouble
[17:01] <popey> btodd: asking about porn in here is way off topic
[17:01] <genii> btodd: Please stick to the subject of this channel if you wish to stay. Also it is bad manners to PM people without their consent.
[17:02] <btodd> where should i ask about porn for ubuntu?
[17:02] <LoRez> canonical.com
[17:02] <popey> btodd: not asking again, stop.
[17:02] <genii> btodd: Not in here.
[17:03] <dewitt_> slowed speed it worked thanks
[17:04] <wunder^> Does anyone know an active IRC channel with linux tv card support?
[17:04] <wunder^> Tried both #ubuntu and #linuxtv with no avail.
[17:04] <Fuchs> wunder^: maybe ##hardware or ##linux, or just look for one with alis: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[17:04] <wunder^> thx Fuchs
[17:04] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[17:05] <cyberdine1988> sup?
[17:05] <cyberdine1988> anyone in their?
[17:06] <M3DO> hi what name channel italy ubuntu helper?
[17:06] <pavlos> !it| M3DO
[17:06] <DJones> M3DO: #ubuntu-it
[17:06] <Fuchs> M3DO: a couple, the main is #ubuntu-it
[17:06] <M3DO> thx
[17:06] <jiffe> is there a way to skip quota checking on boot?
[17:07] <cyberdine1988> u, lol completely new to ubuntu and IRC any reccomendations?
[17:08] <DJones> cyberdine1988: Best recomendation is don't break it, read the manual when you're not sure and ask questions when you need to
[17:08] <DJones> !manual | cyberdine1988
[17:08] <cyberdine1988> hahahhahah don't break it
[17:08] <cyberdine1988> weres the fun thier?
[17:08] <cyberdine1988> lol
[17:09] <OerHeks> !info quota
[17:09] <DJones> cyberdine1988: IRC, askubuntu, ubuntuforums, mailing lists are all good places to ask questions
[17:10] <hplc> is there any tool for auditing and setting policy?
[17:10] <cyberdine1988> its all prety interesting
[17:10] <cyberdine1988> I actually had to use ununu yesterday to get around a dead MBR on my 4tb truecrypt volume
[17:11] <cyberdine1988> pretty interresting, linux doesn't need an MBR? it can go around it lol
[17:11] <cyberdine1988> and thats what landed me here, just toying around lol
[17:12] <Ajkthx> does anyone have any experience installing the heavily compressed version of ubuntu from google docs
[17:12] <cyberdine1988> no clue man, I'm new here myself
[17:13] <iceroot> Ajkthx: what is "the heavily compressed version of ubuntu"?
[17:13] <OerHeks> Ajkthx, what is that?
[17:14] <Ajkthx> https://code.google.com/p/ubuntucd/
[17:14] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: of course GNU/Linux is using the MBR as well, normally this is done via grub
[17:14] <iceroot> Ajkthx: do you need a cd? cant you use a usb stick?
[17:15] <hplc> policytool seems to be a product of ww2 : /
[17:15] <OerHeks> Ajkthx, not supported, if you have no dvd-drive nor usb boot, use the minimal iso
[17:15] <Ajkthx> dont have one
[17:15] <iceroot> Ajkthx: then put the minimal iso on a cd
[17:15] <cyberdine1988> huh, thats pretty strange... on my 790bit encryted drive, their was no MBR at all.... niether dos or windows would agknowledge it presence
[17:15] <iceroot> !minimal | Ajkthx
[17:16] <cyberdine1988> but, ubuntu dove right in with my password
[17:16] <cyberdine1988> took severaltrys and a few hours trying all the partitions
[17:16] <Ajkthx> !help
[17:16] <Ajkthx> !patience
[17:17] <latinoheat> hi
[17:17] <Ajkthx> !commands
[17:17] <cyberdine1988> So, how does the MBR in ubuntu differ from windows? even when the originasl was created with windows?
[17:17] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: i am not sure if this strange UEFI stuff still used MBR but a normal pc is still using an MBR. for windows, linux and unix
[17:18] <cyberdine1988> yea, thats what was strange to me, it made no sense
[17:18] <cyberdine1988> IO just found it on a fprum panicking to get the data back
[17:18] <Ajkthx> well damn, the minimal is only 37mb?
[17:18] <Ajkthx> now i feel like i'm wasting a cd ^^
[17:18] <iceroot> Ajkthx: you are always wasting a cd
[17:19] <Ajkthx> what?
[17:19] <iceroot> Ajkthx: because the newest packages are in the online repo and not on the cd/dvd
[17:19] <Ajkthx> i dont even have ubuntu yet
[17:19] <iceroot> Ajkthx: so normally a lot of stuff from the cd is outdated and will be replaced during installation directly from the online repos
[17:20] <Ajkthx> ok
[17:20] <Ajkthx> still need to install ubuntu somehow
[17:20] <nully> Use the network install CD (not sure what it is named)
[17:20] <cyberdine1988> got everything back off the truecrypt voume that died... wouldn't boot, mount, format nothing.... threw ubuntu in VMworkstation, gave it the physical drive, loaded truecrypt for linux and got me right in
[17:20] <iceroot> Ajkthx: the installer will install the package "foobar" and on the cd there is version 1.00 and online there is the fixed version 1.01  so the installer will directly pick up 1.01 from the online repo and not using 1.00 from cd and then upgrading to 1.01
[17:20] <nully> Although the minimal CD is probably fine if you are installing for the first time.
[17:20] <Ajkthx> or alternatively i could just use a cd
[17:20] <nully> Ajkthx: just use the cd
[17:20] <Ajkthx> k
[17:20] <nully> :D
[17:21] <cyberdine1988> So their either a clear advantage or disadvantage when comparing the MBRs? I just don't know hwt that uis yet
[17:21] <nully> Gotta start somewhere :)
[17:22] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: why do you want to compare the MBR?
[17:23] <cyberdine1988> Well, I'm still unclear as to why thet even worked?
[17:24] <cyberdine1988> for all intenets and purposes that drive was unrecoverable thru any microsoft services at all
[17:24] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: without an MBR the BIOS would fail
[17:24] <cyberdine1988> it did lol
[17:24] <cyberdine1988> my board just threw errors
[17:24] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: the bios is reading the machine code from the MBR and that code will be executed, that code is reading the partitions and so on
[17:24] <cyberdine1988> 3 of them
[17:24] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: and the MBR is on the Harddisk, not on the board
[17:24] <cyberdine1988> no lol the bios was just giving errors lol
[17:24] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: but i dont know how this strange UEFI stuff is working
[17:25] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: the error would be "no boot device found"
[17:25] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: or "signature missing" or something like that
[17:25] <cyberdine1988> errr... lol no it was "MBR error 2" "MBR error 2" MBR error 3"
[17:25] <cyberdine1988> and that was all it would do
[17:25] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: so there is an MBR and within that MBR is an error
[17:26] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: so repair the MBR, there are windows and linux tools for it
[17:26] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: is there only windows installed?
[17:26] <quidnunc> Nothing happens when I try to use screen sharing in Google Hangouts. What am I doing wrong?
[17:26] <quidnunc> Does it work on Ubuntu?
[17:26] <cyberdine1988> no, I'm uising VWworkstation... I have several versions of windows and just one of linux
[17:26] <cyberdine1988> there is a windows 8.1 on that drive
[17:26] <cyberdine1988> but its a 780 truecrypt volume
[17:27] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: which machine is giving the MBR error? the real host? or a vm?
[17:27] <cyberdine1988> *780bit encryption
[17:27] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: encrypted is the partition, not the device itself
[17:27] <cyberdine1988> my 4tb drive, thats now a slave to ubuntu so I can recover the data
[17:27] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: and the MBR is the first sector of the device, not the partition, so encryption has nothing to do with it
[17:28] <OerHeks> truecrypt or bitlocker cyberdine1988 ?
[17:28] <cyberdine1988> welll, truecrypt also encrytpted that first sector (the hidden area) aND ONLY UNLOCKS WHEN KEYED WITH THE PASSWORD... OR SO i THOUGHT?
[17:28] <cyberdine1988> TRUECRYPT
[17:28] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: and what should start truecrypt?
[17:28] <nully> Isn't truecrypt end of life, and no logner used?
[17:28] <nully> and the developers urge people not to use it?
[17:28] <cyberdine1988> lol triple cascade
[17:28] <nully> or am i confused
[17:29] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: or what should start the "enter the password"?
[17:29] <iceroot> nully: yes its eol
[17:29] <cyberdine1988> Its fucking amazing software, it was more a copyright issue
[17:29] <nully> Ya i thought so, stop using TRUECRYPT people
[17:29] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: it was an US / NSA issue for sure
[17:29] <iceroot> some strange us law and so on
[17:30] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: but even when using truecrypt, the BIOS is ALWAYS looking into the MBR and is executing the code there and that code may be grub, the windows loader, true crypt or what ever
[17:30] <cyberdine1988> I hav no idea, I turned that off also... I made the drive just throwe a prompt "DISK_FAILURE!" and killed the ESC to go around preboot authorization
[17:30] <cyberdine1988> so the drive always appeared to have failed untl I entered the password
[17:31] <cyberdine1988> that was until; the real MBR disappeared
[17:31] <yerst> hey
[17:31] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: if i got it correct the drive where the mbr failed messages is coming from is hosting windows
[17:32] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: start the windows cd, enter the rescue shell, enter /fixmbr and thats it
[17:32] <yerst> why are the packages i install via apt-get not the newest?
[17:32] <cyberdine1988> can't
[17:32] <iceroot> yerst: define "newest"
[17:32] <yerst> for example, the latest release of virtualbox is 4.3, with apt-get i get 4.1
[17:32] <cyberdine1988> a windows mbr would only think the drive was empty
[17:32] <yerst> why don't they update the repository?
[17:32] <iceroot> yerst: you will normally never get the newest version from apt-get, only the current one used in the distribution with sec-updates
[17:33] <cyberdine1988> neither windows or the original mbr loads until the correct password is entered
[17:33] <iceroot> yerst: because most people dont want a rolling release, they want stable software instead of always the newest untested software
[17:33] <cyberdine1988> ut something got REALLY fucked up and only threw errors lol
[17:33] <yerst> ok
[17:33] <yerst> thx
[17:33] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: but i dont get how that is ubuntu related
[17:33] <cyberdine1988> neither do iI! LOLLLOL
[17:34] <cyberdine1988> Ubuntu got in, nothing else would lol
[17:34] <genii> cyberdine1988: Please, watch the profanity.
[17:34] <enyc> cyberdine1988: i know whaty ou mean =)
[17:34] <cyberdine1988> srry
[17:34] <cyberdine1988> srry lol
[17:34] <enyc> ubottu: you can have grub installed on the partition (if primary partition)
[17:34] <iceroot> yerst: when you have ubuntu 14.04 and that is coming with package foobar_1.00 you will never see foobar_2.00 in ubuntu 14.04 you will only get security updates nfor foobar1.00 so foobar1.01 and so on (but there are some exepctions like firefox, thunderbird, virusscanner)
[17:34]  * genii makes more coffee and passes the mugs around
[17:34] <enyc> cyberdine1988: you can have grub installed on the partition (if primary partition), then you can still take over MBR with different crazy code
[17:35] <iceroot> !backports | yerst
[17:35] <cyberdine1988> grub?
[17:35] <aliva> I don't know why `service` command doesn't work any more
[17:35] <aliva> this command: service [any_service_name] start
[17:35] <iceroot> aliva: sudo service foobar start
[17:35] <aliva> gives me this error: start: Unknown job:
[17:37] <leeyaa> hello
[17:37] <cyberdine1988> sup
[17:37] <leeyaa> how to customise the email sent from unattended-upgrades? i would like to change the from email address
[17:38] <leeyaa> atm it sends from just root
[17:38] <aliva> iceroot: mainly I have problem with docker
[17:38] <leeyaa> also do you think unattended-upgrades is stable enough to use it on production to apply security updates
[17:38] <cyberdine1988> iceroot, were would be a good place to start learning about grub?
[17:39] <cyberdine1988> and implementing it?
[17:39] <leeyaa> cyberdine1988: in the past i used a source based distro which showed me most of the stuff i need to learn like grub
[17:40] <leeyaa> because the installation covers grub installation and configuration
[17:40] <krabbe> hi there! does anyone here use zorin os 9?
[17:40] <leeyaa> i think gentoo and slack are good for learning
[17:40] <DJones> krabbe: This is Ubuntu supprt, so probably unlikely
[17:40] <cyberdine1988> were would I find the disrtro?
[17:40] <Fuchs> krabbe: ther eis #zorinOs on this network
[17:40] <Fuchs> try that
[17:40] <DJones> !zorin | krabbe
[17:40] <krabbe> ah, ok. thanks!
[17:40] <iceroot> !grub | cyberdine1988
[17:41] <quidnunc> Does Google Hangouts screen-sharing work on Ubuntu?
[17:41] <iceroot> leeyaa: is that a real question? unattended upgrades on production systems?
[17:42] <leeyaa> iceroot: only for security updates
[17:42] <iceroot> leeyaa: this is a very stupid idea
[17:42] <cyberdine1988> says program grub not intallled, instal by blah blah blah lol
[17:42] <leeyaa> iceroot: how do you manage multiple servers then
[17:42] <leeyaa> apply security updates on each server manually? lol
[17:42] <iceroot> leeyaa: the bad thing is not only that security updates may go wrong but sometimes there are also major-updates to fix a security issue (firefox, thunderbird, libreoffice, all closed source software)
[17:43] <iceroot> leeyaa: with a test environment of course
[17:43] <cyberdine1988> derp lol *reads* lol
[17:43] <leeyaa> iceroot: im talking about severs, no firefox or any gui
[17:43] <leeyaa> most have just apache, xen, nginx etc
[17:43] <iceroot> leeyaa: EVERY server admin MUST test the update before installing it
[17:43] <iceroot> leeyaa: use a similar system, test the update and then roll out the upgrade on all machines
[17:43] <leeyaa> iceroot: there is an env where we test them, then apply them on production week or two later
[17:44] <iceroot> leeyaa: the last step can be done automaticly
[17:44] <leeyaa> but still i would liek to automate it
[17:44] <iceroot> leeyaa: that sounds complety different to "is it a good idea to update productions systems automaticly"
[17:44] <leeyaa> iceroot: yes, im bad at explaining myself
[17:45] <iceroot> leeyaa: but i would not say "just" xen, if xen is failing, you will have a big problem
[17:45] <leeyaa> but anyway, how the hell to customise the email from
[17:45] <cyberdine1988> so, iceroot, is it because linux uses grub that made the differance then?
[17:45] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: there is no difference
[17:45] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: the MBR is used ALWAYS
[17:45] <cyberdine1988> ahh ok hmmm
[17:46] <leeyaa> iceroot: i didnt explain the whole situation. we do use xen on many servers and the office network can afford downtimes if something goes wrong. thats what i do at the moment, but manually
[17:46] <iceroot> cyberdine1988: if it is grub, windows boot loader, apple jail starter, does not matter
[17:46] <leeyaa> apply updates, wait a week, apply on production
[17:46] <aliva> $service mdm status
[17:46] <aliva> status: Unknown job: mdm
[17:46] <leeyaa> but it is a pain to apply exactly the same updates
[17:46] <aliva> but the damned mdm file is just there in /etc/init.d
[17:47] <leeyaa> aliva: init.d is different than upstgart
[17:47] <leeyaa> upstart*
[17:47] <iceroot> leeyaa: ssh foo@bar sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:47] <iceroot> leeyaa: as a very quick workaround
[17:47] <leeyaa> iceroot: i want only security updagtes
[17:47] <leeyaa> updates*
[17:47] <cyberdine1988> I still just don't understand lollol I spent weeks trying to get in, so much so I actually installed and learned linux to get to the data.....
[17:48] <iceroot> leeyaa: but that in a script, make "bar" a bash variable and execute it "update system1"
[17:48] <leeyaa> i usually use unattended-upgrades
[17:48] <iceroot> leeyaa: hm
[17:48] <cyberdine1988> not that their was a lot to learn to do it, its just beyond me why it worked
[17:48] <iceroot> leeyaa: so you are a server admin and you think sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is not only installating sec updates?
[17:48] <leeyaa> like i have a script and i do ./rcfg.sh ALL_FL remote_command "apt-get install unattended-upgrades -y && apt-get update etc"
[17:48] <iceroot> leeyaa: dist-upgrade is the only valid apt command to get security updates
[17:49] <Guest42084> Hello guys, I will join your conversation now. If I understand your right, I have had this Problem before
[17:49] <henry_> that depends on the xact thing u want to do
[17:49] <Guest42084> qq
[17:49] <iceroot> leeyaa: dist-upgrade does not mean "install never versions with feature updates" or "update the distreibution"
[17:49] <iceroot> leeyaa: it only means install the latest packages from the repository
[17:49] <leeyaa> iceroot: i was not ubuntu guy
[17:49] <iceroot> leeyaa: the same on debian
[17:50] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[17:50] <leeyaa> nor debian ;p
[17:50] <iceroot> Pici: great, finally there is the dist-upgrade factoid :)
[17:50] <leeyaa> i see your point though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades
[17:51] <leeyaa> and back to my question, how to customise email notification
[17:51] <iceroot> leeyaa: so, the only valid command for your security updates is "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" that is all
[17:51] <iceroot> leeyaa: email notificaqtion of what? apticron?
[17:51] <leeyaa> iceroot: ima actually test that now
[17:51] <leeyaa> iceroot: no, unattended-upgrades
[17:52] <iceroot> leeyaa: sorry dont know that
[17:52] <leeyaa> this /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[17:53] <iceroot> leeyaa: but have one thing in mind (which is special for ubuntu, not debian).when it comes to kernels for example ubuntu is not only delivering secureity updates but also bug-fixes and sometimes new features or changing features within the same kernel-release. so it is important to do testing. debian is doing it different and really only delivering sec-updates
[17:53] <leeyaa> iceroot: i was told that we are fine to apply security updates.
[17:54] <jglauche> hello. I upgraded my laptop recently to 14.04 lts and I now have to reboot this thing every 2-3 days because Xorg would just eat up memory
[17:54] <iceroot> leeyaa: it was just an info that ubuntu is doing it a little bit "strange" here
[17:54] <jglauche> like 2gb ram in 3 days
[17:54] <leeyaa> iceroot: ubuntu is doing lots of things different and strange
[17:54] <leeyaa> thanks for the info though
[17:54] <iceroot> leeyaa: right
[17:54] <iceroot> leeyaa: so you only want to change the sender from the mail?
[17:55] <leeyaa> iceroot: yes
[17:55] <iceroot> leeyaa: //Unattended-Upgrade::Mail "root";
[17:55] <iceroot> leeyaa: replace root
[17:55] <iceroot> leeyaa: and remove the // of course  i would say, but never used it
[17:55] <leeyaa> thats the TO address
[17:56] <leeyaa> it sends them to this email
[17:56] <Ajkthx> jglauche, reformat and install windows 95
[17:56] <jglauche> Ajkthx: so I only need to reboot at every 32bit timestamp overflow ?
[17:56] <iceroot> leeyaa: ah, there was a mail-file which is a system global thing
[17:57] <leeyaa> so
[17:58] <iceroot> leeyaa: which MTA? postfix?
[17:58] <leeyaa> https://bpaste.net/show/4546f22b96a6 yet dist-upgrade reports https://bpaste.net/show/24e99a5af7e7 how can this be only security updates ?
[17:58] <leeyaa> yes postfix
[17:58] <leeyaa> if it is a postfix config i think i remember where to change it
[17:59] <iceroot> leeyaa: sorry only in german http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Postfix#Korrekten-Absender-setzen
[17:59] <leeyaa> thats fine thanks
[18:00] <iceroot> leeyaa: /etc/postfix/main.cf  there you have to put  sender_canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_canonical   and then create the file /etc/postfix/sender_canonical  and put in root  foo@bar.de
[18:00] <leeyaa> iceroot: i got it, thanks
[18:00] <iceroot> leeyaa: then that address will be used from postfix
[18:00] <iceroot> leeyaa: ok great
[18:00] <leeyaa> see my above message ;p
[18:01] <leeyaa> so far i have always used unattended-upgrades which does indeed apply only security updates
[18:02] <Ajkthx> so i somehow got my hard drive to format within a mounted-in-windows version of ubuntu and totally destroyed everything
[18:03] <Ajkthx> also, didnt even install ubuntu
[18:03] <Ajkthx> fml
[18:04] <DeathTech> so... wait.. you formatted a live HDD within an ubuntu VM while it was mounted ?
[18:04] <vitimiti> Hi
[18:04] <Ajkthx> right
[18:04] <MeXTuX> Hi! Tried to play Kingpin: Life of Crime and there is no sound. Already tried "padsp kingpin" and there is another solution which is typing this echo 'kingpin 0 0 direct' > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss I don't have "oss" file. Can i just create it?
[18:04] <DeathTech> sorry man, thats weird
[18:05] <Ajkthx> guess i just need to reinstall everything ;_;
[18:06] <Ajkthx> i guess that's 1 way to completely shatter windows 8
[18:06] <DeathTech> yeah man, that shouldnt have been possible, not even sure how you did that
[18:06] <Ajkthx> i was messing with partitions just to see what it would let me do
[18:06] <Ajkthx> i guess i found out
[18:06] <DeathTech> lol
[18:08] <pngl> I have a touchpad problem on Ubuntu 14.04. Sometime after reboot, mouse movement stops working, but clicking still works. I've tried reactivating it with xinput, but that doesn't work. The trackpoint (it's a Lenovo laptop) still works.
[18:16] <felon> how do i add a repository: sudo add-apt blabla ?
[18:17] <iceroot> felon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217179/how-to-add-ppa-repositories
[18:17] <lix> felon: either edit /etc/sources.list manually or use apt-add-repository
[18:17] <blackyboy> felon: sudo apt-add-repository yourrepository_url
[18:18] <iceroot> felon: ah, my link is only for ppa
[18:22] <efe_> hi all. I can't play DVD eventhough I have libdvdread4 installed
[18:22] <felon> im getting a error while adding the repository
[18:22] <efe_> vlc player just turns itself off as soon as I choose DVD
[18:22] <efe_> same thing happens with DVD player
[18:22] <efe_> any ideas ?
[18:23] <felon> Error: need a single repository as argument
[18:23] <zzxc> So has ubuntu just kind of dropped ubuntu touch?
[18:23] <bekks> felon: So whats the full command you are using?
[18:23] <OerHeks> zzxc, what makes you think that?
[18:23] <ObrienDave> efe_, have you installed *ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:24] <felon> sudo apt-add-repository http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
[18:24] <zzxc> OerHeks: Haven't heard anything about it. I was interesting on installing it on a x86 based tablet. But I can't really find anything aside form contact us you are an interested OEM.
[18:24] <zzxc> Haven't heard anything about it in a while*.
[18:24] <OerHeks> !touch
[18:25] <zzxc> OerHeks: Oh cool. Alright thanks I'll check that out.
[18:26] <zzxc> OerHeks: Hmmm this looks like its all arm based right now.
[18:31] <syeekick> on ubuntu 14.04 how wouldi get this package libmysqlclient.so.15  ?
[18:31] <bekks> !file libmysqlclient.so.15
[18:31] <bekks> hm.
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !find libmysqlclient
[18:32] <syeekick> apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev ?
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> syeekick: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:34] <syeekick> trying to follow this http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/74883-TUTORIAL-Teamspeak3-Server-w-MySQL-Databse-on-Debian-Ubuntu
[18:35] <syeekick> go on that site andn ctrl+f for     libmysqlclient.so.15 => not found
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> syeekick: you want to install mysql 5?
[18:35] <syeekick> i think so
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> syeekick: and your end goal setup teamspeak server on ubuntu?
[18:36] <Ajkthx> how efficient is wine at running video games
[18:36] <k1l_> in 14.04 its libmysqlclient.18
[18:37] <k1l_> Ajkthx: not as efficient as native windows is
[18:37] <syeekick> lotuspsychje, thats correct
[18:37] <Ajkthx> so you expect pretty heavy performance decrease>?
[18:37] <syeekick> k1l thanks
[18:37] <syeekick> thats what happenes with linux... shit gets depricated
[18:37] <k1l_> Ajkthx: depends on the exect game. see the wine app db for info how good or bad that games runs on wine
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> syeekick: maybe this: http://blog.bobbyallen.me/2014/01/11/setting-up-teamspeak-3-on-ubuntu-server-12-04-lts/
[18:38] <zzxc> Ajkthx: Its going to be slower but I've know people who have run skyrim on a laptop via wine.
[18:38] <Pici> syeekick: btw, that forum post you shared is regarding installing on a release 2 years old and has you installing packages from a release 6 years old.
[18:38] <zzxc> Ajkthx: It was a powerfull latptop and I don't know what the settings were but it is posible.
[18:39] <Ajkthx> i know ubuntu now supports steam correct?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> steam and playonlinux are pretty decent
[18:39] <k1l_> Ajkthx: yes.
[18:39] <Ajkthx> anyone know what the performance of steam games are on ubuntu compared to windows?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Ajkthx
[18:39] <Pici> Ajkthx: Have you checked the appdb?
[18:39] <Ajkthx> no
[18:39] <Pici> !appdb
[18:40] <cyber_dweller> trying to setup a server in my office, the server should do http,mail,and some more services from wan side. also, it'll serve the lan with some more common services like nfs,cifs,internal mail,buckup server, dhcp and remote openvpn access from wan side to lan. trying to figure out if tap is the way to go to create two diffrent vlans one for public access and the second for open vpn and local. what do you think?
[18:40] <OerHeks> Ajkthx, performance depends on your hardware-support in linux, hard to answer that open question
[18:41] <Pici> cyber_dweller: You may want to re-ask that in #ubuntu-server, as there are more server gurus there :)
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> Ajkthx: checkout the alienware ubuntu gaming boxes on their site
[18:43] <syeekick> how do i go about getting that missing libary ? the wget link is broken
[18:43] <Ajkthx> i hear nvidia works much better than ATI on ubuntu
[18:43] <ilhami> hello nerds.
[18:43] <syeekick> pici thanks i didn;t realise that
[18:43] <syeekick> fack
[18:44] <Ajkthx> who you calling nerd, nerd?
[18:46] <Pici> syeekick: Their newer downloads look like they should work with modern versions of mysql.
[18:48] <k1l_> syeekick: i cant find any modern howto which tells about an issue with that mentioned file
[18:49] <bisu> is there any app to transfer files from one laptop to another via wifi? p.s i want a gui
[18:49] <syzygy_> I’ve installed ubuntu server on a old G4 Powerbook via an installation disc I’ve made. Just using it to tinker with and would like to know if it’s possible to setup wifi on it so I can install some packages that it’s missing. The book has no ethernet port.
[18:49] <k1l_> bisu: open up a network share and shove the files to that
[18:50] <bisu> how exactly to do that? do i need samba?
[18:51] <k1l_> bisu: use the nautilus file explorer, that is workflow is nearly the same like you would do this with 2 windows pcs
[18:52] <bisu> thanks a lot
[18:52] <bisu> k1l_
[18:52] <k1l_> or see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/310180/how-to-share-files-using-a-wireless-network
[18:56] <arrowsatanas> Good evening (Guten Abend). We can i install teamspeak of my ubuntu?
[18:56] <ilhami> I think scribes is a cool editor :D
[18:56] <k1l_> !teamspeak | arrowsatanas
[18:57] <arrowsatanas> i've download and uncompressed teamspeak.run, but not run
[18:58] <syeekick> then i should be good to go.. thanks for the help guys. Love #ubuntu
[18:58] <k1l_> arrowsatanas: give the xxxxxxx.run file executive permissions and then run it
[18:59] <k1l_> arrowsatanas: since you seem to be german i will link a good german howto from the german ubuntu wiki: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/TeamSpeak_3
[18:59] <arrowsatanas> I have Teamspeak downloaded and unzipped to the terminal and installed. But when I start the application, only appears that something is loading. But the application does not start.
[19:00] <skqr> join #jsonapi
[19:00] <skqr> Damn
[19:00] <arrowsatanas> The tutorial I have read, but still works not
[19:01] <bisu> arrowsatanas run the program from terminal and look at the errors if any
[19:02] <arrowsatanas> How do I start the software in the terminal?
[19:02] <k1l_> arrowsatanas: that is explained in the article i linked
[19:02] <arrowsatanas> Yes but since no instruction is given on how to start programs in the terminal
[19:03] <k1l_> go to the folder the ts3client_runscript.sh is in and do "./ts3client_runscript.sh"
[19:04] <ilhami> arrowsatanas, can I beat you ? :D
[19:04] <Lingo_> hello guys, does anyone have any favourite makefile tutorials?
[19:05] <ilhami> Google has a lot :D
[19:09] <lmat> I'm having trouble building. It says that I need gitkmm.
[19:10] <lmat> The only package like that seems to be gitkmm-documentation
[19:10] <rjaac> d
[19:10] <k1l_> !find gitkmm
[19:10] <rjaac> hi
[19:10] <lmat> well that settles it, eh!? ^_^
[19:10] <lmat> I'll get the sources and build then?
[19:10] <k1l_> lmat: i bet the stuff you want o build got a README or other install howto. did you read that?
[19:11] <arrowsatanas> The command results in no link, despite direct path
[19:11] <lmat> k1l_: Thanks for the advice. gitkmm is an optional build dependency, and it doesn't appear to be mentioned in the docs.
[19:12] <felon> i figured it out, i just added it from etc/apt/sources.list ... added the key update installed great< works great :)
[19:12] <quidnunc`> Does anyone know if Google Hangouts screen sharing works in Ubuntu?
[19:12] <lmat> oh... it's *lib*gtkmm!!
[19:12] <lmat> k1l_: thanks anyway!
[19:16] <kchoma> j
[19:17] <rjaac> Hi hello
[19:18] <rjaac> Can anyone be kind enough and explain me how can I reg my nick in this channel?
[19:18] <quidnunc`> rjaac: /msg nickserv identify
[19:18] <rjaac> Or point me to the right documentation
[19:18] <quidnunc`> rjaac: /msg nickserv register
[19:18] <xcyclist> My webcam camera works, but the microphone doesn't.  It's a logitech HD 720p
[19:18] <xcyclist> It's one of those wecams with the microphone on the device.
[19:19] <quidnunc`> xcyclist: Have you checked input settings in the gnome sound control panel?
[19:19] <xcyclist> Yes, I am trying to mess with the sound settings.
[19:20] <quidnunc`> xcyclist: Can you see the device in "input"
[19:20] <quidnunc`> ?
[19:20] <decadence18> Hi. When I boot I get an error "usb 1-1.4: string descriptor 0 read error -22" before it shows the login screen. What is this and how can I may it go away? (I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 x64)
[19:20] <xcyclist> Looking...
[19:20] <xcyclist> Yes.  But it calls it a c270.
[19:20] <quidnunc`> xcyclist: Is it selected?
[19:21] <xcyclist> It appears to be.
[19:21] <quidnunc`> Input volume is okay?
[19:21] <quidnunc`> Start cheese and try to record a video with sound
[19:21] <decadence18> does anyone else even get that error?...
[19:23] <decadence18> Am I even showing up?
[19:23] <xcyclist> Input volume is set halfway up.  How can I test it?  I have test buttosn for output, but I see nothing for input.
[19:23] <arrowsatanas> Teamspeak is working. .-)
[19:23] <bisu> decadence best is to ignore that
[19:23] <bisu> decadence18 best is to ignore that
[19:24] <decadence18> bisu: Okay, I didn't know if it was just  a benign error or if it was something I needed to fix
[19:24] <xcyclist> The input level thing, which looks like a meter, does not fluxuate when I speak.
[19:24] <bisu> decadence18 ofcourse you need to fix that.. but only if you see a real problem
[19:25] <bisu> decadence18 since you system boots fine and works fine i assume.. no worry
[19:25] <quidnunc`> xcyclist: Try the "cheese" prgoram
[19:25] <quidnunc`> program
[19:25] <xcyclist> However, it does fluxuate on its own when I turn volume all the way up.  It's like it detects something, but not me.
[19:25] <decadence18> bisu What exactly is it? I understand it's an error but... I'm completely lost on what's errant.
[19:26] <bisu> decadence18 i get 4 to 5 errors and my ubuntu works like a ferrari
[19:27] <decadence18> bisu: Mine works great I'm just one of those people that gets really bothered by errors
[19:27] <bisu> decadence18 i am afraid i can't help .  k1l_ or somebody more experienced
[19:28] <decadence18> bisu: So far you're the only one that's even answered me. I've been on here 3 times and no one has answered me until now. I was beginning to think maybe my client was broken
[19:29] <bisu> decadence18 lol
[19:30] <bisu> decadence18 usually k1l_ solves everything.. he's something.. but i guess he's not here now
[19:30] <vlad003> ls
[19:30] <bisu> have patience someone will answer decadence18
[19:30] <xcyclist> Cheese is not showing me any way to test the mike.  It shows my picture just fine.
[19:31] <decadence18> bisu: I've also had a post on the forums up for almost a day now with no replies. I was considering that I had became virtually invisible. And I will. Do you have any idea about when someone more experienced will be on?
[19:31] <bisu> xcyclist record a video
[19:33] <bisu> decadence18 usually its around this time.. perhaps a you r a little bit late.
[19:33] <ilhami> decadence18, what is the problem? :D
[19:34] <quidnunc> xcyclist: Sorry I got disconnected
[19:34] <quidnunc> xcyclist: does it work?
[19:34] <quidnunc> (cheese)
[19:34] <decadence18> ilhami: When I boot, before I get to the login screen, I get an error saying "usb 1-1.4: string descriptor 0 read error -22
[19:35] <quidnunc> decadence18: Try unplugging all your usb devices
[19:35] <ilhami> unplug your usb devices and reboot
[19:35] <decadence18> I don't have any plugged in
[19:35] <decadence18> That's the thing xD
[19:35] <quidnunc> decadence18: what does dmesg say?
[19:36] <quidnunc> !paste
[19:36] <ilhami> what does lsusb say?
[19:37] <decadence18> This is for lsusb http://pastebin.com/fPQ4V8Qg
[19:38] <kenny__> hey people.  Any know where to find the list of locales available for install (command-line).  I'm writing a web-facing menu that displays all of the locales/values.  Thought it was langaugelist file but that turned out to be not complete.  See that file here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8516712/
[19:39] <ilhami> decadence18, try to give quidnunc what he wants :D
[19:39] <decadence18> As for dmesg this is what I could get (It cut off some of the first part) http://pastebin.com/NwuQq1dA
[19:41] <ilhami> are you using dual boot?
[19:41] <ilhami> having*
[19:42] <decadence18> No, all I have is Ubuntu on this laptop. It's EFI BIOS...
[19:43] <quidnunc> decadence18: Looks like the webcam (I assume it is integrated). Anyway if you search the error message you are getting you will see other people complaining about the same issue on Acers. I didn't see a solution, this thread said the problem suddenly went away so maybe try updating (aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade) or wait to upgrade to 14.10 to see if that solves your problem
[19:43] <c0sm0s__> hello
[19:43] <decadence18> Okay, thank you. I'll try to find a fix. I just was completely lost on what the error even was and I had no idea where to start lol
[19:44] <ilhami> the logs are always a good place to start. :D
[19:44] <OerHeks> decadence18, this bugreport sounds like your problem and hardware too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1238265
[19:45] <decadence18> Does it make a difference mine is usb 1-1.4 and that's 1-1.1?
[19:46] <ilhami> not a big one I guess. :)
[19:46] <OerHeks> no, that is personal, depends where those hw is connected.
[19:46] <decadence18> I haven't been taught anything about how to read these errors and the differences between the usb *'s are so I apologize for the stupid question. Thank you all
[19:46] <OerHeks> no problem, please do ask.
[19:47] <bionico> salve
[19:47] <bionico> !list
[19:47] <ilhami> :D
[19:47] <decadence18> quidnunc: I don't have aptitude
[19:48] <ilhami> get it :)
[19:49] <decadence18> What is it, if I may ask? I've heard of it but I'm not quite comfortable installing something I'm not sure what it is
[19:50] <lix> decvadence18: apt-cache show aptitude
[19:50] <lix> !aptitude
[19:50] <letozaf> hel irc.freenode.net
[19:50] <letozaf> help
[19:51] <decadence18> Ahh. Okay. Thank you.
[19:51] <bisu> Letozaf: say
[19:51] <lix> decadence18: welcome
[19:52] <bisu> Ubottu i love you
[19:52] <bisu> XD
[19:53] <ilhami> ubottu, I hate you. :)
[19:54] <bisu> !ubottu
[19:54] <bisu> Fascinating
[19:55] <ObrienDave> yes, Mr. Spock, it's only a bot ;P
[19:56] <bisu> yep i kno.. just love to admire it XD
[19:57] <bisu> !bengali
[19:57] <bisu> ubottu bengali
[19:57] <bazhang> bisu, /msg ubottu
[19:57] <bisu> sorry :-P
[19:59] <Fr0Zn> Hello all
[20:01] <bprompt> allo
[20:06] <ilhami> bprompt
[20:08] <SAngeli> #join hardware
[20:08] <adrian1908> I have a question regarding codec libraries on Ubuntu. Should I prefer ffmpeg" or "libav"? Is there any preference within the OS/Community itself, or should I use what superficially seems best to me?
[20:09] <farva> I am trying to add IP addresses to my machine using this tut: http://www.alkia.net/index.php/faqs/144-setting-up-second-ip-address-or-virtual-ip-address-in-ubuntu but I don't know if I should be changing my file when it does not look the same as what is in the tutorial: http://gyazo.com/bf4e52894098f3b2ffab5a94ef55aaa9
[20:09] <hsnopi> does ubuntu 14.04 LTS come wiht a default mail application?
[20:09] <ObrienDave> hsnopi, yes, Xubuntu comes with Thunderbird
[20:10] <hsnopi> obrienDave, My apologies, I meant server
[20:10] <OerHeks> adrian1908, current ffmpeg is a metapackage to libav https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FFmpeg
[20:10] <hsnopi> basically so server applications can email me errors
[20:11] <ph0x> Hi
[20:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> Do apt-get source / download check signatures for downloads? Can you cite documentation?
[20:11] <ph0x> Im running Ubuntu Server with VLC as a media player
[20:11] <adrian1908> OerHeks: Thanks for the link. Would that imply that ffmpeg is equal to- or a superset of libav?
[20:11] <ph0x> the version of VLC is outdated
[20:11] <silvano> !list
[20:12] <ph0x> can I remove it and compile the latest version from source
[20:12] <OerHeks> adrian1908, i think equal
[20:14] <ObrienDave> hsnopi, sorry, i know nothing about server but it seems to me it should be able to do that. i don't really know
[20:14] <adrian1908> OerHeks: thanks. I think i'll just go with the ffmpeg package, the description sounds very promising. I just wanted to make sure I didn't install something that's antagonistic to the common Ubuntu environment.
[20:15] <farva> should I edit my /etc/network/interfaces from: auto p4p1 to eth0, and iface p4p1 inet static to: iface eth0 inet static ?
[20:15] <farva> when adding extra ips*
[20:15] <bekks> farva: The name of the interface doesnt matter - as long as it is unique
[20:16] <Finetundra> does anyone know how to install ubuntu server on an IBM xseries 225?
[20:16] <Finetundra> or if it can be done'
[20:16] <decadence18> Hey guys so I'm back. Just in case anyone was wondering. I looked through like the first 10 pages of a google search for several variations of the error I'm getting. No one has an answer. But, I think it's a confirmed bug (at least on 13.04 it was).
[20:16] <farva> bekks: so when I add in more ips to use, I was looking at this tut: http://www.alkia.net/index.php/faqs/144-setting-up-second-ip-address-or-virtual-ip-address-in-ubuntu to be clear, this is safe for me to do?
[20:18] <bekks> farva: You should use the network adapter name you are using currently, and adapt that howto accordingly.
[20:19] <farva> bekks: I am running a remote server and I did this once before, we used the eth0 previously, I am just nervous I might mess up...should I use eth0:0 eth0:1 etc?
[20:20] <bekks> farva: You network adapter name is p4p1 not eth0.
[20:20] <farva> bekks: ohh I see, okay, so then I use p4p1:0 p4p1:1 etc?
[20:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there some tool that will check signatures for a .deb?
[20:25] <OerHeks> Eduard_Munteanu, softwarecenter, synaptic, apt-get
[20:25] <OerHeks> or do you want to check manually downloaden deb?
[20:26] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[20:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> OerHeks, check manually downloaded debs or download and check signatures, but apt-get's docs are silent on this.
[20:30] <at_work> Does the installer save the install logs anywhere in the installed image?
[20:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> I find it quite disturbing this stuff isn't documented.
[20:31] <at_work> found it!
[20:36] <Finetundra>  does anyone know how to install ubuntu server on an IBM xseries 225?
[20:36] <Thuruv> ...
[20:37] <Thuruv> Anybody there. .?
[20:37] <Finetundra> Thuruv, yes
[20:37] <decadence18> Yes
[20:37] <Thuruv> Hie can i ask here for a help in installing ubuntu . .?
[20:39] <k1l_> Finetundra: Thuruv ask specific questions and people will try to help
[20:39] <decadence18> Yes
[20:40] <Thuruv> Sure. . I've tried to load ubuntu in my Laptop using Wubi coming with 14.04 pack. . but it installed 12.04. Can you please guoide me. .?
[20:40] <k1l_> Thuruv: scratch that wubi. make a real install into real partitions
[20:40] <Finetundra> ok, i'm trying to install ubuntu or some variation of it on an IBM xseries 225 but the server is not recognizing the cd
[20:40] <ObrienDave> Thuruv, WUBI needs to die a slow painful death
[20:41] <Finetundra> can someone help me with that
[20:42] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, sounds like a bad CD burn. try again
[20:42] <k1l_> Finetundra: did you md5sum the iso?
[20:42] <Thuruv> Ha ha . . but mine has no DVD block. .
[20:42] <k1l_> Thuruv: use a usb-pendrive to install ubuntu
[20:43] <Finetundra> k1l no i have not. ObrienDave I'll try it with a new ISO file
[20:43] <k1l_> !rootirc > Guest91231
[20:43] <Pa^2> Finetundra, I too have spent many hours fighting with 225s and their kin.  Seems the CD-ROM drives in a great many of them just don't work anymore.
[20:43] <Thuruv> @k11 :Thanks. . But can i installl it in any drive. .?
[20:44] <Pa^2> I ended up cracking the case and slaving in an external CD drive long enough to get the initial install in and working.
[20:44] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, MD5 the ISO first. if good, no need to D/L it again
[20:44] <k1l_> Thuruv: yes. it doesnt matter if the installer is booted from usb or cd
[20:45] <juniour> hi how can i provide swap space to my ubuntu, without formatting the root partations
[20:45] <k1l_> juniour: you do have swap partition and want additional swap space?
[20:45] <oris> you'd have to resize the partition
[20:45] <Thuruv> Thanks a lot all. .:)
[20:46] <oris> to create swap space
[20:46] <Finetundra> Pa^2, i know the drive works because i could boot knoppix. ObrienDave, i have do DL again because I just had to put in a new HDD
[20:46] <skizu> reset
[20:47] <ObrienDave> k
[20:47] <decadence18> Okay, this isn't completely support... But does anyone here play Z-machine games?
[20:47] <genii> juniour: You can also just use a swap file instead of a partition. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F   just below that section explains how.
[20:47] <Pa^2> Finetundra, lucky yours works... most of the seven that I have didn't.  Good luck with your adventure.
[20:47] <juniour> k1l_ i want addtional space, and i want to provide some space from my existing space
[20:48] <juniour> genni like??
[20:48] <Finetundra> Pa^2 have you managed to make the machines work in the past?
[20:49] <k1l_> juniour: i am not sure where your issue is right now?. do you have no unallocated space left to make a swap partition or to resize the swap partition? why do you mention formatting all partitions?
[20:49] <oris> can you guys see my posts/
[20:49] <ObrienDave> oris, yes we can
[20:49] <oris> thanks
[20:49] <Pa^2> At the time I was loading up an old version of Slackware ... 12.02 or so, maybe even earlier.
[20:50] <Finetundra> Pa^2, have you ever managed to put an ubuntu distro on one?
[20:50] <oris> what is the best "lite" edition of ubuntu... im looking for one to run on an old eee pc 900mhz
[20:51] <capsuLe> hi
[20:51] <oris> yo
[20:51] <juniour> k1l_ no space is allocated before, if it was allocated, i mounted the space and used swapon command to use it. but the senarion is i have 40gb my filesystem and i want to give 4gm from this is it possible i can give without formating my system??
[20:51] <Finetundra> oris, either xubuntu or lubuntu
[20:52] <tobylane> Oris the server/minimal
[20:52] <oris> would crunchbang be better ?
[20:52] <capsuLe> how can i delete all files from computer , but keep ubuntu, without make new install ?
[20:52] <tobylane> capsuLe delete /home?
[20:52] <capsuLe> yo oris
[20:52] <capsuLe> hmmm
[20:52] <capsuLe> nice reflexion toby
[20:53] <k1l_> juniour: you can shrink your filesystem from the live cd/usb and then make that a swap partition or move that space to the old swap partition
[20:53] <tobylane> Huh?
[20:53] <oris> lol
[20:53] <capsuLe> but about apt-get install all.packet*
[20:53] <juniour> k1l_ is it will effect my files???
[20:53] <tobylane> It sounds like you want to reinstall ubuntu capsuLe
[20:53] <Finetundra> has anyone here managed to install an ubuntu distro on an xseries 225?
[20:53] <capsuLe> :D
[20:53] <Finetundra> and if so what distro
[20:53] <bekks> Finetundra: Did you try another cd?
[20:53] <capsuLe> okey okey
[20:54] <k1l_> juniour: depends on if you actually make a mess. but i suggest you make backups first in case murphys law strikes back
[20:54] <Finetundra> what do tou mean bekks?
[20:54] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, sounds like a bad CD burn. try again
[20:54] <bekks> Finetundra: You were told to check the md5sum of the cd and to burn another cd - did you do that already?
[20:55] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, I've tried it with a good CD yet it still didn't recognize it
[20:55] <juniour> Finetundra use bootable pendrive :)
[20:55] <k1l_> Finetundra: first make sure the iso is not corrupted and the cd/dvd reader works. if it still fails we can go to the next step
[20:55] <Finetundra> bekks, yes
[20:55] <squinty> ....and maybe try burning at a low speed rather than max.
[20:55] <capsuLe> one more , on my usbkey , i can boot with "gnome" but it's same to ubuntu ? or other linux version ?
[20:55] <Pa^2> Finetundra, Nope, just fire up the last known working one and it was Slack.  Sorry
[20:56] <Finetundra> k1l, the cd drive works, I just loaded it up on a knoppix disc
[20:57] <Finetundra> Pa^2, thanks for checking
[20:57] <tobylane> capsuLe that probably just refers to the DE
[20:57] <krasnayarsk> I'd like feh and xcompmng to start when my wm starts. Should I call these commands from .xinitrc?
[20:57] <k1l_> some PAE or 32/64bit stuff?
[20:57] <bekks> Finetundra: So then please describe what "it doesn load Ubuntu" means exactly - what happens on screen?
[20:57] <capsuLe> DE ?
[20:57] <k1l_> Finetundra: ^
[20:57] <tobylane> Gnome2 should be the same on any distro, and similar to mate as well
[20:57] <oris> does any one know of any good music production progs for linux?
[20:57] <tobylane> Desktop Enviroment
[20:58] <k1l_> oris: there are a lot. even !ubuntu-studio
[20:58] <capsuLe> okey :) , with apt-get install ? sudo / cat / cd / etc ... ???
[20:58] <squinty> oris:  check out ubuntu studio   see the ubuntu studio web pages for included software listings
[20:58] <oris> thanks! i hadn't heard of ubuntu studio before
[20:58] <capsuLe> same commande ? just difference from packet always installed ?
[20:59] <krasnayarsk> I'd like feh and xcompmng to start when my wm starts. Should I call these commands from .xinitrc?
[20:59] <capsuLe> same for command into terminalx ?
[20:59] <k1l_> capsuLe: what is your actuall issue?
[20:59] <squinty> oris:  http://ubuntustudio.org/
[21:00] <oris> thanks squinty
[21:00] <Finetundra> bekks, it says "disk boot failure, insert system disc and press enter"
[21:00] <squinty> yw
[21:00] <bekks> Finetundra: Sounds like the cd is broken, if it boots another cd fine.
[21:00] <Finetundra> so what do i need to do
[21:01] <ObrienDave> try the USB stick method
[21:02] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, I don't know how to boot the thing from USB
[21:02] <oris> check your bios or  uefi
[21:02] <capsuLe> i give back computer to my father , but between i delete windows and put ubuntu ( wonderfull) , and he told me : " no problem , i want go to linux since longtime . But i have put lot of application for discover linux environement and mind :)
[21:03] <squinty> Finetundra:  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:04] <capsuLe> now i need to give cleen linux , with nice desktop , easy to be dicover
[21:04] <squinty> Finetundra:  or check out other options software and tutorials at   pendrivelinux.com
[21:04] <Finetundra> oris, the options for boot are "floppy,LS120,Hard Disk, CDROM,ZIP100,Legacy LAN, LSI MPI Boot Su, MBA v3.1.15 Slo"
[21:05] <oris> that computer is O L D
[21:05] <oris> :D
[21:05] <k1l_> capsuLe: try a standard ubuntu with unity desktop.
[21:05] <bekks> Finetundra: And whats the current order?
[21:05] <valentinas> Hi, what is the equivalent of *initctl show-config* option in ubuntu 10?
[21:05] <ObrienDave> LS120? ZIP100? oh my almost as old as me ;P
[21:06] <bekks> ObrienDave: It's a x225 ;)
[21:06] <capsuLe> i looking in gnu option if i can reinstall from himself
[21:06] <capsuLe> :p
[21:06] <oris> i miss zipdrives
[21:06] <oris> good old days
[21:07] <p0wn3d> a zip drive with a tarabyte of data would be cool
[21:07] <ObrienDave> "click of death" LOL
[21:07] <kostkon> not even zip250, it's that old
[21:07] <Finetundra> bekks, f;oppy,HDD,CDROM,[disabled]
[21:07] <bekks> Finetundra: Set CDROM to be the first option.
[21:07] <Finetundra> and yes i know its old guys
[21:08] <ObrienDave> no wonder it won't boot CD
[21:08] <ObrienDave> at least put CD before HDD
[21:08] <Finetundra> ok bekks, now what
[21:08] <oris> as someone mentioned before, burn the image again but at a very low speed. slow burn = better copies
[21:08] <k1l_> Finetundra: i think all ubuntu isos need PAE, make sure your machine works with that. but if you still didnt check the md5sum we can stop talking now
[21:08] <skrull> i had one, and used until a day it went dead (click of death)
[21:08] <bekks> Finetundra: Insert the CD and boot it.
[21:09] <ECas123> Hey everyone!
[21:09] <oris> or just give up and set fire to the old pc. it's the kindest thing to do....
[21:09] <oris> haha
[21:09] <Finetundra> bekks,same thing
[21:09] <oris> hey ecas
[21:09] <bekks> Finetundra: So check the md5sum.
[21:10] <ECas123> I've got a question and was hoping someone could direct me towards a tutorial or something.
[21:10] <oris> go for it
[21:10] <oris> we're here to help
[21:10] <ECas123> My girlfriend's computer has Windows 8 and Linux Mint installed. She isn't very technical (a friend installed Mint on it) and doesn't like it. She asked if I could install Ubuntu over the Mint side.
[21:11] <netlar> Are all GTK themes compatible with Ubuntu Unity?
[21:11] <squinty> Finetundra:  might also want to look at the following   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Linux_distribution
[21:11] <ObrienDave> ECas123, yes you can
[21:11] <netlar> I should say GTK3 themes
[21:11] <ECas123> It's a newer laptop so I'm guessing the process will be different.
[21:11] <k1l_> ECas123: yes you can. just choose the old mint partitions in the manual partition in the installer
[21:11] <oris> yeah, that's easy. just boot an ubuntu cd, then chose the partition mint was installed on
[21:12] <oris> beat me to it! :)
[21:12] <ECas123> So that's it? Nothing else I need to do? Don't distros usually install 2 partitions?
[21:13] <ECas123> *create two partitions
[21:13] <Finetundra> ok bekks, what now
[21:13] <bekks> Finetundra: Did you chec the md5sum?
[21:13] <oris> just deleted those 2, and setup 2 new ones
[21:13] <Finetundra> yes
[21:13] <bekks> Finetundra: So which value did you get?
[21:13] <Finetundra> ca2531b8cd79ea5b778ede3a524779b9
[21:13] <ECas123> Alright, thanks for the help!
[21:13] <oris> no worries
[21:13] <bekks> Finetundra: Did you check the md5sum of the iso file, too?
[21:14] <Finetundra> that's what i checked
[21:14] <bekks> Finetundra: compare it to the md5sum of the cd.
[21:14] <Ajkthx> is lubuntu any good
[21:14] <oris> for such an old pc, i would personally look at installing crunchbang, or something equally lightweight
[21:15] <k1l_> Ajkthx: yes it is.
[21:15] <Ajkthx> what features does it exclue from ubuntu?
[21:15] <Finetundra> oris, i'm going to be using it as a server
[21:16] <oris> oh right. that would be a tad tricky. although you can install apache etc to crunchbang
[21:16] <k1l_> Ajkthx: its a different desktop on the same ubuntu base. its the more lightweight spinoff
[21:16] <tobylane> Finetundra does it need a gui?
[21:16] <Finetundra> not really
[21:17] <squinty> Ajkthx:  checking out the various flavoured desktops on Youtube for an example may give you an idea.  or better yet just try it
[21:17] <oris> what are the plans for the server? web site? or media centre
[21:17] <Ajkthx> ubuntu just seems too "solid", and it's already fairly lightweight. it's kind-of a "what's the point?" type of mentality
[21:18] <oris> solid, and kinda weighty !! :D
[21:19] <Finetundra> oris, remote desktop
[21:20] <Finetundra> bekks, i've gotten lost
[21:20] <bekks> Finetundra: Then you can refer to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Linux
[21:22] <oris> so why no gui for a remote desktop?
[21:23] <Ajkthx> think i could get games to run on nanolinux?
[21:23] <oris> that doesnt make sense to me
[21:23] <daftykins> Ajkthx: other distros are off topic here
[21:23] <Ajkthx> so you can't answer them? police going to come?
[21:24] <oris> no need to be a dumbass . this is an ubuntu server
[21:24] <daftykins> !alis | Ajkthx try and find a channel for them specifically
[21:24] <Finetundra> oris, you're right it was  half thought through. i'm working with a friend to set this up so we were just tossing stuff around
[21:24] <Ajkthx> !list
[21:24] <Ajkthx> !alis
[21:25] <Finetundra> bekks, e93c72bc6dc1d0dff4382f658a1e1fb6
[21:25] <daftykins> Ajkthx: i ran a command to have ubottu tell YOU something, you don't need to type it again. Read the above message.
[21:25] <bekks> Finetundra: So as you can see, the md5sums differ. Your cd is broken.
[21:26] <Ajkthx> you're pretty serious about your IRC dafty
[21:26] <Finetundra> so i have to burn a new cd? again?
[21:26] <bekks> Finetundra: Yes. Because your md5sums differ.
[21:26] <Finetundra> great
[21:26] <k1l_> Ajkthx: please keep this channel clear for real ubuntu support. there are tons of channels where you can seek support for other distros. thanks
[21:27] <squinty> Finetundra:  or use usb stick along with a plop boot cd  see http://www.plop.at/en/home.html for details on plop
[21:28] <oris> of all the channels, you had to login to this one....
[21:28] <oris> meh
[21:28] <squinty> Finetundra:  if you have a usb port that is! lol
[21:28] <Finetundra> squinty, i don't think i can boot from usb on this machine
[21:28] <oris> ha
[21:29] <oris> it still runs on steam power
[21:29] <vaskozl> When I run sudo nmap -sS localhost I see that port 25smtp is open
[21:29] <vaskozl> is that default behaviour?
[21:30] <Finetundra> close enough, oris
[21:31] <k1l_> vaskozl: see "netstat -tulpen" what uses that port
[21:31] <oris> to boot it, do you need to whip horses to get it running? maybe time for a new computer mate, haha
[21:32] <vaskozl> k1l_: it was postfix, not default
[21:32] <Finetundra> honestly, it was about to g to Goodwill when my neighbor gave it to me
[21:32] <oris> (says the guy using an eee pc 900mhz)
[21:32] <Finetundra> *go
[21:33] <Finetundra> figured it'd be a nice project to spend my time on
[21:34] <oris> im a big fan of keeping old computers running using some form of linux distro
[21:34] <oris> dont bin it. linux it... :D
[21:35] <Finetundra> true
[21:35] <Finetundra> best way to go about it
[21:36] <oris> even manged to get an old version of ubuntu running on a pentium 250mhz. its now my home networks dedicated firewall
[21:36] <Finetundra> good that you found a use for it
[21:37] <bubbasaures> #ubuntu-offtopic is for chat lets stick with actual support please.
[21:37] <oris> sorry bubba
[21:37] <Finetundra> only having a little fun
[21:37] <Ajkthx> ubuntu support is srs business
[21:37] <Ajkthx> NO FUN
[21:37] <Ajkthx> ONLY SRS
[21:38] <oris> support or gtfo!
[21:38] <oris> haha
[21:39] <ObrienDave> oris, obfuscated swearing is not allowed also. keep it family friendly, please
[21:39] <Ajkthx> LOL
[21:39] <oris> jtfo??
[21:40] <oris> Sorry. Only here to help, not to hinder?
[21:40] <k1l_> Ajkthx: since you are already banned in #ubuntu-offtopic this is not the right place to make trouble too.
[21:40] <oris> banned from -offtopic?? why?
[21:40] <Finetundra> how would one manage to do that, k1l
[21:41] <ObrienDave> how does someone get banned from #OT?
[21:41] <k1l_> !guidelines
[21:41] <ObrienDave> k1l_, not necessary to answer that question ;P
[21:42] <k1l_> guys please make sure to read them. they are ment for all #ubuntu channels. for more questions about the rules or kick/bans please ask in #ubuntu-ops to keep this channel clear for people who need to solve their support issues
[21:43] <oris> is there any way to find out how many servers around the globe run ubuntu server?
[21:46] <Finetundra> you can update any ubuntu distro to current right?
[21:46] <quiet> I'm having trouble with  ttf-mscorefonts-installer  I keep getting this error::: dpkg: error processing package ttf-mscorefonts-installer (--configure):
[21:46] <quiet>  package ttf-mscorefonts-installer is not ready for configuration
[21:46] <quiet>  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')
[21:46] <quiet> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:46] <quiet>  ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[21:46] <quiet> Error in function:
[21:46] <unopaste> quiet you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:46] <jake_428> Hey guys im having a bit of a problem with my laptop battery
[21:46] <oris> finally, someone who needs support.
[21:46] <oris> dont all jump at once
[21:46] <oris> whats up with it?
[21:47] <Finetundra> you can update any ubuntu distro to current right?
[21:47] <oris> i think so
[21:47] <Finetundra> how far back would i have to go do you think?
[21:48] <oris> 11?
[21:48] <oris> maybe 10
[21:49] <k1l_> Finetundra: what do you try to solve with installing a old ubuntu release?
[21:49] <Finetundra> perhaps the issue is that it won't read the newer release with its older drive
[21:50] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, does not work that way
[21:50] <Finetundra> well it was worth a thought. any suggestions ?
[21:50] <oris> What spec is the computer, Finetundra?
[21:50] <vaskozl> Is it stuped to run a computer with all ports available trough the wide network without firewall?
[21:51] <Finetundra> hold
[21:51] <k1l_> Finetundra: no, that is not helping. first make sure you got a right iso burned there, check md5sum.
[21:51] <oris> yes vaskol
[21:51] <ObrienDave> vaskozl, yes, pretty much
[21:51] <k1l_> Finetundra: if that is fine make sure your server supports PAE which ubuntu kernels need.
[21:51] <vaskozl> why?
[21:51] <oris> like a house with every door unlocked and window open
[21:52] <k1l_> vaskozl: you got a wrong idea of ports
[21:52] <ObrienDave> vaskozl, like big sign out front, STEAL FROM ME
[21:52] <vaskozl> k1l_: I do?
[21:52] <vaskozl> ObrienDave: well I mean, how can you STEAL from me?
[21:52] <quiet>  I'm having trouble with  ttf-mscorefonts-installer                 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8517411/
[21:52] <k1l_> vaskozl: the problem is the program sitting at that port. not the port as such. so with no program sitting at that port its harmless
[21:53] <vaskozl> I just have my ssh ports and my https open.
[21:53] <vaskozl> *ssh port
[21:53] <Finetundra> k1l how do i figure out if it supports PAE
[21:54] <k1l_> Finetundra: look into the documentation. i bet ibm still got them
[21:54] <Finetundra> where should i look in it. i have it pulled up
[21:55] <k1l_> Finetundra: see what cpus are build in and see if they do support PAR
[21:55] <k1l_> *PAE
[21:55] <vaskozl> so as long as I make sure there are no exploitable programs sitting on open ports I should be fine or?
[21:55] <oris> do ubuntu offer downloads of version right back to 1?
[21:55] <k1l_> vaskozl: yes. and you can change the ssh port, use fail2ban etc.
[21:55] <k1l_> oris: there is no 1
[21:56] <Ben64> oris: there is no 1, and only 12.04 and 14.04 are supported currently
[21:56] <oris> where did it start?
[21:56] <vaskozl> k1l_: I've done both
[21:56] <k1l_> !releases
[21:56] <oris> i meant unsupported versions. i'd like to install really old versions of ubuntu.
[21:56] <oris> is that possible?
[21:57] <Ben64> oris: sure, but theres no point and they're probably full of vulnerabilities
[21:58] <oris> they would only be installed on machines that arent connected to the internet
[21:58] <oris> so not worried about vulnerabilities
[21:58] <Ben64> still doesn't make any sense, but go for it
[21:59] <oris> its like time travel for a nerd
[21:59] <dsan> or nerd-travel for time
[22:00] <oris> :)
[22:00] <OverCoder> =stalk oris
[22:00] <OverCoder> o wait, wrong channel
[22:00] <OverCoder> sorry
[22:01] <Ben64> !away > Hobbyboy|Sleep
[22:01] <oris> i have enough stalkers
[22:03] <oris> how hard is it to setup an ubuntu website on my own home network, one that can serve a website to the external world.#
[22:04] <oris> *server
[22:25] <Finetundra> does debian work for non-PAE computers?
[22:27] <benskev> @Finetundra yes
[22:28] <Finetundra> how different is it from ubuntu?
[22:28] <ObrienDave> not too much
[22:28] <benskev> ubuntu is a debian derivative, it uses debian backbone/kernel, but is 99% stable, whereas ubuntu is 90% stable
[22:29] <Finetundra> do you guys recommend it for the machine i'm working with?
[22:30] <benskev> as a server yes, as a desktop client no. rather use ubuntu for desktops, debian for servers.
[22:30] <benskev> it has faaar better stability as a server, and won't 'chug'
[22:31] <Finetundra> well it doesn't seem that i can use ubuntu so that looks like the way i'll have to go
[22:31] <benskev> what is the scenario? what are you using it for?
[22:32] <Finetundra> well, I'll be using the machine for a server, as that is what it is, but other than that not too much
[22:33] <benskev> what services are you going to run?
[22:33] <Finetundra> what do you mean?
[22:33] <benskev> are you going to use the debian server as a proxy, web host, mail server, etc?
[22:34] <Finetundra> it'll be setup for RDP and maybe vnc
[22:36] <benskev> ok for multiple internal or external network clients, like from the local network or the internet?
[22:36] <kul> hi
[22:36] <kul> when i try connecting to my server through filezilla im getting this error : Error:	Failed to retrieve directory listing
[22:36] <kul> it used to work before
[22:36] <kul> now it isnt
[22:37] <daftykins> restarted it?
[22:37] <cryptozoic> i had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  he would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[22:37] <cryptozoic> i had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  he would "play the bongos" on my ass..
[22:37] <cryptozoic> i had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  he would "play the bongos" on my ass...
[22:37] <cryptozoic> i had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  he would "play the bongos" on my ass....
[22:37] <cryptozoic> i had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  he would "play the bongos" on my ass.....
[22:37] <cryptozoic> i had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  he would "play the bongos" on my ass......
[22:37] <unopaste> cryptozoic you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:37] <daftykins> ^any active ops who would like to take action, it'd be muchly appreciated
[22:37] <Finetundra> benskev, both
[22:38] <kul> ii did dafty
[22:38] <kul> i restarted both the server and filezilla
[22:38] <daftykins> and did you reconfigure SSH in some way?
[22:38] <kul> nope
[22:39] <daftykins> is filezilla connecting via SFTP, or FTP?
[22:39] <kul> ftp
[22:39] <daftykins> sounds like you broke your FTP server configuration then
[22:39] <daftykins> read the logs in /var
[22:39] <daftykins> * /var/log
[22:39] <kul> ok
[22:41] <kul> what am i reading in log
[22:41] <kul> theres a bunch of files
[22:42] <daftykins> kul: ok, you really should know the basics here before trying to administrate a server. look up logs for your chosen FTP server
[22:43] <rypervenche> kul: Sounds like perhaps a permissions error or you're missing something in the firewall.
[22:43] <kul> o
[22:43] <benskev> kul: try reconfiguring your server using the template in /usr/share/<ftp server>
[22:43] <kul> ok
[22:49] <kul> it says that error when i try to enter the html folder in ftp
[22:49] <benskev> what i the error code?
[22:51] <kul> Error:	Failed to retrieve directory listing
[22:51] <benskev> ok thats a file permissions error
[22:51] <Ben64> you should use sftp instead of ftp
[22:51] <kul> ok
[23:01] <Finetundra> what's the offtopic channel?
[23:01] <ObrienDave> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:03] <Finetundra> also, can you reccomend me a disc burning software that doesn't usually fail?
[23:04] <rwp> Finetundra, If you are having disk burn failures then it is likely either the media or the burner. Or both.
[23:06] <ObrienDave> or burning too fast
[23:07] <netnomad> Love Linux.  Love Ubuntu.  Thank you.
[23:08] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, how fast should i burning at?
[23:08] <ObrienDave> as fast as is successful
[23:09] <Finetundra> that's a bit vague, could you be more exact?
[23:10] <ObrienDave> as fast as you can without having to do it over and over
[23:12] <Finetundra> oops i seem to have misworded my first question. why is the burn constantly bad, (i.e. md5sum gives me different values for cd and the iso)?
[23:12] <rww> hrm, that's suboptimal
[23:13] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, because the ISO is an image of the finished CD. different contents
[23:13] <kul> YESSSS
[23:13] <kul> I FIGURED IT OUT
[23:13] <kul> YAY
[23:13] <Finetundra> so why can't i boot from the disc?
[23:14] <Finetundra> figured what out, kul?
[23:16] <kul> nothin
[23:16] <Ben64> Finetundra: are you actually burning it as an image or are you putting it as a file on the disc
[23:17] <ObrienDave> please don't say copying file to CD
[23:17] <Finetundra> Ben64,  I'm right clicking the image and clicking open w/ xfburn, then telling it to start
[23:18] <ObrienDave> whew, that should work then
[23:18] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, i'm not that stupid
[23:18] <Ben64> Finetundra: what do you see when you open the disc in a file manager or something
[23:18] <ObrienDave> never said you were. sheesh
[23:19] <Finetundra>  right clicking the image and clicking open w/ xfburn, then telling it to start
[23:19] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, didn't say you were implying it
[23:20]  * ObrienDave saunters on down the road
[23:20] <squinty> Finetundra:  and did you lower the burn speed as previously suggested?  again, high burn speeds are susceptible to burn errors.  try at 4X
[23:20] <Finetundra> squinty, ok
[23:21] <ashley01> If a program crashes so badly that I am unable to use the mouse and keyboard, and unable to access the shell to use pkill, is that called a kernel panic?
[23:22] <Finetundra> squinty, what should the writem mode be?
[23:24] <Finetundra> squinty, or do i leavi it set to auto
[23:25] <squinty> Finetundra:  no idea as have never used xfburn before.  maybe someone else can jump in on that if you need to adjust it
[23:25] <Finetundra> I'll just go for it
[23:26] <squinty> Finetundra:  running windows at all?  if yes, might want to try Imgburn... it's never failed me over the years. just set the lower speed and burn
[23:26] <Finetundra> nope, no windows at all
[23:27] <LinusTourvaldsII> Finetundra,  ru in a ubuntu OS?
[23:27] <Finetundra> xubuntu
[23:27] <LinusTourvaldsII> well maybe install ubuntu's brasero it does it kinda automatically
[23:27] <LinusTourvaldsII> just an idea
[23:27] <squinty> LinusTourvaldsII:   do they make xfburn for any other OS?
[23:28] <LinusTourvaldsII> it knows when u are going to burn iso to image and u do not have to tell it that
[23:28] <Finetundra> well i can keep on this for quite awhile so i'll try that next
[23:30] <LinusTourvaldsII> to answer your question squinty i have used kubutus burner in ubuntu i have used ubuntus burner in deepin u may install any of the mto any of those OS's
[23:31] <postmodern> how do you install ruby-switch, apt-get says there's no candidate
[23:31] <ObrienDave> !info ruby-switch
[23:31] <squinty> LinusTourvaldsII:  kinda missed the point but never mind
[23:31] <ObrienDave> maybe a PPA?
[23:32] <Finetundra> it's like the drive is refusing to read the disc
[23:33] <ObrienDave> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-switch
[23:34] <squinty> Finetundra:  not burning to a DVD disk and then trying to boot it in a CD only drive are you?  :)
[23:35] <Finetundra> 5 discs in and this hasn't crossed my mind
[23:35] <LinusTourvaldsII> i mentioned it only because a few ditros ago i was having trouble burning an OS...i switched to k3b (from kubuntu) and boom worked 1st time. i kept it until the next ubuntu came out and when back to brasero as it came in it-never had another issue.
[23:36] <Finetundra> thank you squinty
[23:36] <squinty> Finetundra:  yw
[23:36] <Finetundra>  i must now go find a cd, or a dvd drive
[23:37] <ObrienDave> won't fit on CD
[23:37] <ObrienDave> only minimal image fits on CD
[23:38] <ObrienDave> maybe lubuntu will fit on CD
[23:39] <LinusTourvaldsII> normal lubuntu 14.04.1 is 729.8 mb i have it on disk in my hand
[23:39] <LinusTourvaldsII> well 32 bit anyway
[23:40] <ObrienDave> lubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso                23-Jul-2014 00:15  696M  Desktop image for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download)
[23:40] <Finetundra> ubuntu server reads a a little over 500 megs
[23:40] <LinusTourvaldsII> i wrote it on the disk so for some reason it gave me that reading
[23:40] <LinusTourvaldsII> hmm will have to look a tthat
[23:41] <Finetundra> can debian install alongside ubuntu?
[23:41] <ObrienDave> yes
[23:41] <Finetundra> awesome, does it matter which goes first?
[23:41] <squinty> no
[23:41] <ObrienDave> if you use separate partitions. no, should not matter
[23:41] <Finetundra> cool
[23:42] <Daryl> Any OS can be Dual booted last time ive known
[23:44] <Daryl> Hmm out of curiousness could 1 dual boot on a single partition ? is there a way of doin that
[23:44] <ObrienDave> Daryl, no, not a good idea
[23:44] <Daryl> ah ok
[23:44] <LinusTourvaldsII> yup it is under 700mb squinty my download file say 712704kb
[23:48] <rush_> hi
[23:50] <Finetundra> squinty, i want to give you a hug. you have solved a problem that's been with my for about 2 weeks
[23:51] <squinty> Finetundra:  lol!  glad to hear it!  btw...similar experiences over here to over the years so you are not the only one. :)
[23:52] <Finetundra> seriously though, thank you so much
[23:53] <DoYouKnow> I tried CUDA on an ubuntu-based distro, but my keyboard is slow to respond when I enable the CUDA graphics driver. v340. I use v304 (non-cuda) without problems. What could be my issue?
[23:53] <squinty> Finetundra:  no problem..you are very welcome.  :)
[23:54] <_unreal_> DoYouKnow, have you checked your cpu load?  : top or htop
[23:54] <DoYouKnow> yeah, it was fine, _unreal_
[23:54] <DoYouKnow> just certain tasks were slow to respond
[23:54] <_unreal_> and yet you have CPU lag?
[23:54] <_unreal_> err keyboard
[23:54] <DoYouKnow> yeah, mainly keyboard
[23:54] <DoYouKnow> any input/output task
[23:54] <_unreal_> did you try just or haha's a second keyboard?
[23:55] <ashley01> nobody responded a while ago so I'll ask again:
[23:55] <ashley01> If a program crashes so badly that I am unable to use the mouse and keyboard, and unable to access the shell to use pkill, is that called a kernel panic?
[23:55] <DoYouKnow> _unreal_: not yet
[23:55] <_unreal_> ashley01, a kernel panic typically is displayed
[23:55] <_unreal_> and asher1 you could always try SSHing into said machine to see if you can pkill via SSH
[23:56] <ashley01> im not sure what you mean by SSHing. Is it network-related? If so I wouldn't have a clue!
[23:57] <_unreal_> ssh'ing
[23:57] <_unreal_> ashley01, do you know what SSH is?
[23:57] <ashley01> a secure way of accessing something?
[23:57] <_unreal_> that would be a no then
[23:57] <ashley01> !ssh
[23:57] <_unreal_> ashley01, are you a girl? just wondering
[23:57] <ashley01> no im a guy, why does everyone keep assuming i am female?
[23:58] <ashley01> ashley is both a male and female name that was unfortunately given to me
[23:58] <_unreal_> um couph no reason
[23:58] <_unreal_> in any case
[23:59] <daftykins> ashley01: you might want to look into REISUB too.
[23:59] <ashley01> !reisub
[23:59] <ashley01> oh nice
[23:59] <_unreal_> do you have a second computer running on your if your home, home network that is linux
[23:59] <ashley01> no