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| psusi | where are the mesa sources? the bzr repo on lp seems to be out of date and the Vcs-Git: header points to the debian repo... where are the ubuntu sources? | 02:16 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 04:20 |
| Mirv | pitti: hey! are you ok/ack with tvoss' enabling of translations in location-service + trust-store.. directly in usr/share/locale/? two diff:s: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_location-service_2.1+14.10.20141007.1-0ubuntu1.diff | 04:31 |
| Mirv | and https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_trust-store_1.1.0+14.10.20141007.4-0ubuntu1.diff | 04:31 |
| pitti | Mirv: tvoss is speaking to me right now indeed.. looking | 04:32 |
| Mirv | ah, ok. | 04:32 |
| Mirv | despite the -bin.install adding usr/share/locale/* to it, I don't actually see them inside the deb:s | 04:33 |
| pitti | Mirv: yeah, they get stripped during build, that's fine | 04:33 |
| Mirv | right, sounds more correct then | 04:33 |
| Sarvatt | psusi: err if noone replied earlier, all x related packages are on git.debian.org, http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-xorg/lib/mesa.git/log/?h=ubuntu | 05:00 |
| TheMuso | Morning willcooke. | 06:45 |
| willcooke | hey TheMuso! | 06:54 |
| willcooke | Sorry for the confusion :) | 06:54 |
| willcooke | I'm just getting ready for the school run, I'll be back in about 30 mins | 06:54 |
| willcooke | if you're still around, great - if not, no worries | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | Ok, I have nothing urgent to talk about, so I'll hang around if you want to talk about anything. | 06:57 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: ^ | 06:57 |
| darkxst | pitti, Laney my fix for bug 1377847 is ready for review | 07:13 |
| ubot5 | bug 1377847 in gnome-desktop3 (Ubuntu Utopic) "unity screen saver no longer blanks nor locks automatically" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1377847 | 07:13 |
| darkxst | I suppose adding a new dbus api is somewhat of a new feature, but the underlying idlemonitor code is not really changed much | 07:13 |
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| Laney | hello | 08:03 |
| * Laney is cold | 08:04 | |
| Laney | darkxst: ta, will look | 08:06 |
| seb128 | good morning Laney | 08:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, welcome to autumn | 08:08 |
| Laney | I don't feel welcome >:( | 08:08 |
| willcooke | hey Laney | 08:09 |
| * willcooke is cold as well | 08:09 | |
| willcooke | and it's soooo dark all of a sudden | 08:09 |
| willcooke | morning seb128 - thanks for covering the meeting yesterday. I hope they didn't troll you too much :) | 08:10 |
| willcooke | (except I'm 99% sure they did) | 08:10 |
| seb128 | willcooke, hey, it was alright, no worry ;-) | 08:12 |
| Laney | morning willcooke | 08:12 |
| larsu | morning! | 08:12 |
| Laney | seb128 is strong, he can take it | 08:12 |
| Laney | (also give it) | 08:12 |
| Laney | hey larsu | 08:12 |
| seb128 | (me, trolling, never!) | 08:13 |
| * Laney is off friday this week so trolling thursday it is | 08:17 | |
| seb128 | off friday? slacker! | 08:18 |
| seb128 | but alright, I can do trolling on thursday ;-) | 08:18 |
| Laney | http://www.beerfestival.nottinghamcamra.org/Assets_pdf/BF2014_Beer_Prog_Notes.pdf | 08:19 |
| seb128 | doh | 08:20 |
| seb128 | how do you want to pick with so much choice? | 08:53 |
| seb128 | (seems like I forgot to hit enter before) | 08:53 |
| Laney | too busy reading the entire list ;-) | 08:54 |
| Laney | usually just go to an area and decide what looks best there | 08:54 |
| Laney | you have 1/3 pints so it's possible to try a few | 08:55 |
| seb128 | it's also possible to get drunk, right? ;-) | 08:56 |
| Laney | that is one strategy | 08:56 |
| Laney | I'll have a couple of meals to reduce that risk :p | 08:56 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:56 |
| darkxst | Laney, replied | 08:58 |
| darkxst | no one should be using those symbols, not even sure they are really meant to be 100% public | 08:58 |
| Laney | did you see the inline comment? | 08:59 |
| Laney | I checked u-c-c which is the only reverse dependency and it doesn't use them | 08:59 |
| Laney | so it's okay | 08:59 |
| willcooke | OT: 3d printer, 500 quid O_o http://www.ebuyer.com/660756-xyzprinting-da-vinci-1-0-3d-printer-3dp01xeu00e?utm_source=2014-10-08&utm_medium=campaign_email&utm_campaign=B2C_%28Wednesday%29_All_FS | 09:02 |
| willcooke | Congratulations FJKong on becoming an Ubuntu member :) | 09:04 |
| willcooke | thanks to folk who sponsored him as well | 09:04 |
| darkxst | Laney, no I didnt see the inline comment (and still can't) | 09:05 |
| Laney | change the dropdown | 09:05 |
| Laney | it clears them when you push a new revision | 09:05 |
| seb128 | FJKong, congrats | 09:05 |
| Laney | or look at the email it sent you (scroll down, it sends too much context) | 09:05 |
| Laney | well done FJKong | 09:05 |
| FJKong | seb128: Laney willcooke thanks for your supporting | 09:05 |
| FJKong | it goes very well | 09:06 |
| Laney | you should get the freenode cloak now | 09:06 |
| Laney | be one of the cool kids | 09:06 |
| willcooke | :) | 09:06 |
| FJKong | Laney: I need to learn about how to use that | 09:07 |
| Laney | mine still says "pdpc.active" but I don't think pdpc even exists any more ... | 09:07 |
| Laney | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks | 09:07 |
| FJKong | Laney: reading | 09:09 |
| Laney | I think it comes down to 'ask someone on the IRC council' | 09:09 |
| darkxst | Laney, heh, they were hard to find, I don't think the log messages are too harmful? name_lost could indeed be useful if someone steals the interface | 09:13 |
| Laney | g_debug at best I think | 09:14 |
| darkxst | Laney, sure ok | 09:15 |
| Laney | righto | 09:15 |
| Laney | seb128: you want to take care of uploading? ;-) | 09:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, uploading what? | 09:15 |
| Laney | u-s-d | 09:15 |
| seb128 | sure can do | 09:16 |
| seb128 | what change? | 09:16 |
| Laney | https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/unity-settings-daemon/lp1377847/+merge/237507 | 09:16 |
| Laney | waiting for one more commit | 09:16 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:17 |
| darkxst | ^pushed | 09:17 |
| Laney | hmm | 09:17 |
| Laney | how does *-c-c decide if you have a physical mouse? | 09:17 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1303086 | 09:17 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1303086 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Pointer Speed Missing in Unity Settings for Mouse & Trackpad" [High,Confirmed] | 09:17 |
| darkxst | Laney, I suspect it uses XI2 directly | 09:19 |
| darkxst | well atleast current versions should, not sure how it was in 3.6 | 09:19 |
| darkxst | idle monitor - monitors all devices, it doesnt care if they are physical or virtual | 09:20 |
| Laney | unrelated to that | 09:21 |
| Laney | it's about 'pointer speed' and similar not showing up if the control centre decides you don't have a mouse | 09:21 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu: does http://paste.ubuntu.com/8519824/ looks fine to you? | 09:22 |
| Laney | no, wait, I should have pushed | 09:22 |
| Laney | that package is uploaded | 09:22 |
| Laney | done | 09:23 |
| Laney | as for the actual change, I don't know what it's doing | 09:23 |
| larsu | seb128: aren't there some ui files missing in the translations patch? | 09:24 |
| larsu | seb128: btw, I've just build jhbuild to test 3.14 and I'll have a look at why the ui.h files aren't included anymore | 09:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, what it says in the changelog | 09:24 |
| Laney | also I don't see any rules change | 09:25 |
| seb128 | larsu, thanks | 09:25 |
| larsu | ooh, popovers are broken | 09:25 |
| seb128 | Laney, copy/paste error, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8519833/ | 09:26 |
| seb128 | larsu, what .ui are missing? | 09:26 |
| larsu | ah, cool | 09:26 |
| Laney | why do you delete more .ui.h than you add? | 09:26 |
| larsu | seb128: none now that you pasted the while patch | 09:26 |
| larsu | *whole | 09:26 |
| Laney | ah | 09:26 |
| Laney | same problem | 09:27 |
| seb128 | sorry guys ;-) | 09:27 |
| Laney | these are generated files not included in git or something? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | correct | 09:27 |
| seb128 | well, the other way around | 09:27 |
| seb128 | they are in git, not disted | 09:27 |
| Laney | the .ui files? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | larsu, is looking at it/getting it fixed upstream | 09:27 |
| seb128 | the .ui.h | 09:27 |
| seb128 | are in git but not disted | 09:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/gtk/resources/ui | 09:28 |
| seb128 | they dist only the .ui | 09:28 |
| seb128 | so intltool-update works on a git checkout, but not in the tarball | 09:28 |
| Laney | but the ones you're adding are there | 09:28 |
| Laney | so your patch could be good for them, or? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | I guess it could, if they wanted to use intltool | 09:29 |
| darkxst | Laney, see device_type_is_present() it seems to directly ask X for input devices | 09:29 |
| seb128 | but larsu mentioned they are trying to move away from that | 09:29 |
| seb128 | not sure how they build their .pot | 09:29 |
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| seb128 | Laney, so, any objection to commiting that, at least for utopic? I've a plan-B if you prefer, which is to update the pot locally and include an "update pot" patch for that version | 09:32 |
| seb128 | I uploaded the updated pot to launchpad meanwhile | 09:32 |
| Laney | seb128: seems okay, prefer an upstream solution as always | 09:32 |
| Laney | make sure to re pull | 09:32 |
| seb128 | but it's going to import to tarball one every time we do an upload and revert the manual update | 09:32 |
| seb128 | k | 09:33 |
| seb128 | larsu is working on an upstream solution | 09:33 |
| Laney | ya | 09:33 |
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| willcooke | seb128, question for you... I downloaded the latest desktop next ISO to test and I live booted it | 14:52 |
| willcooke | I get to the login screen, and now I'm stuck | 14:52 |
| willcooke | it wont accept any password | 14:52 |
| willcooke | that I type | 14:52 |
| willcooke | if I got to vt1 and reset the password from the default of ubuntu then I can log in | 14:53 |
| willcooke | is this expected? | 14:55 |
| willcooke | wait, that's not right | 14:56 |
| willcooke | the default password is blank | 14:56 |
| willcooke | so when I change it I can log in | 14:56 |
| Laney | why doesn't it auto login? | 14:58 |
| ChrisTownsend | Laney: unity-greeter pops up and it doesn't accept blank passwords. | 14:59 |
| willcooke | oh, hai ChrisTownsend :) | 14:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | Laney: And I don't think unity-greeter has auto login. I have an open bug for a related issue. | 14:59 |
| ChrisTownsend | willcooke: Hi:) | 14:59 |
| Laney | what does the desktop iso do? | 15:00 |
| willcooke | so yeah, just to confirm what I'm actually seeing: I boot from the ISO, get to the U8 greeter and I can't login because the Greeter doesnt accept a blank password. Drop to vt1 reset the password, back to vt7 and I can log in | 15:01 |
| willcooke | Laney, the desktop iso logs straight in to u7 session | 15:01 |
| ChrisTownsend | I brought up the issue willcooke is describing a few months back. | 15:01 |
| willcooke | Of course, you don't see this is you choose to install, because you have to set a password | 15:02 |
| willcooke | A fix could be that the desktop-next image has a default password of not blank | 15:02 |
| willcooke | ? | 15:02 |
| willcooke | for live, I mean | 15:03 |
| Laney | The live images should take you to a desktop | 15:03 |
| willcooke | ok, so no greeter at all? | 15:03 |
| willcooke | just straigt in | 15:04 |
| willcooke | straight | 15:04 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ChrisTownsend, Laney, right, that's the issue ChrisTownsend reported some weeks ago, I didn't investigate on what changed, that used to work :/ | 15:04 |
| ChrisTownsend | Laney: Hasn't for me for months. It takes me to the Unity8 greeter, ie, lockscreen, which doesn't accept blank passwords. Only workaround is what willcooke describes. | 15:04 |
| Laney | ChrisTownsend: I'm not denying there's a bug? | 15:04 |
| seb128 | oh | 15:04 |
| seb128 | it's not lightdm, it's unity8's lock. | 15:04 |
| ChrisTownsend | Laney: Right. | 15:05 |
| Laney | We made the greeter auto login work | 15:05 |
| Laney | Now some unity 8 thing is breaking it | 15:05 |
| Laney | that's where the fix goes | 15:05 |
| willcooke | Is it possible something got reverted? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | no, it's not | 15:05 |
| ChrisTownsend | Yeah, we have similar issue when logging into the Unity8 session from LightDM. Greeter is still shown which is quite redundant. | 15:05 |
| seb128 | it's that unity8's lock screen used to support only swipe | 15:05 |
| seb128 | they added proper pam auth suppor | 15:06 |
| seb128 | support | 15:06 |
| seb128 | so it's a bug in unity8 | 15:06 |
| seb128 | guess something for mterry | 15:06 |
| willcooke | shall I open a bug against U8? | 15:06 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend did iirc? | 15:06 |
| mterry | heyo | 15:07 |
| mterry | seb128, oh yeah, the session starts locked | 15:07 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: I opened a similar bug which *I think* causes the same issue. Let me try to dig that up. | 15:07 |
| ChrisTownsend | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1360307 | 15:07 |
| mterry | seb128, I'd like to fix that, but it's desktop only and you know the priority of that these days -- it will be lovingly fixed when I finally add an optional split out the greete | 15:07 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1360307 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Logging in to the desktop session brings up the lock screen" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:07 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ^ there you go, rtm first | 15:08 |
| willcooke | ack, thanks all | 15:08 |
| seb128 | mterry, right | 15:08 |
| willcooke | In the meantime I'll document a work around on Ask Ubuntu | 15:09 |
| willcooke | if there isn't already | 15:09 |
| Laney | seb128: can you confirm bug #1303086? | 15:09 |
| seb128 | mterry, can we put the unity8 greeter in swipe mode on the desktop-next iso with some config? | 15:09 |
| ubot5 | bug 1303086 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Pointer Speed Missing in Unity Settings for Mouse & Trackpad" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1303086 | 15:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, I can't from the title, let me read the comments | 15:09 |
| seb128 | the slider is there for me | 15:09 |
| Laney | k | 15:10 |
| mterry | seb128, not currently | 15:10 |
| Laney | larsu: what about you? | 15:10 |
| seb128 | mterry, hum, k | 15:10 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you get the issue? | 15:11 |
| Laney | yeah | 15:11 |
| Laney | I came up with a fix | 15:11 |
| Laney | want someone to verify it | 15:11 |
| Laney | it's quite hard to answer "do I have a mouse?" in x | 15:11 |
| seb128 | in what conditions does it happen? | 15:11 |
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| Laney | I have a wireless kb/mouse dongle thing | 15:11 |
| Laney | that's not picked up right | 15:12 |
| seb128 | well, I get the mouse slider even without mouse on my laptop | 15:12 |
| larsu | Laney: what about me? | 15:12 |
| seb128 | like with the laptop undocked and no mouse connected | 15:12 |
| Laney | larsu: makes sense in context: can you reproduce the bug I linked? | 15:13 |
| mterry | seb128, wait... I think you could... You'd have to have a dummy account that has no password (or is in nopasswdlogin group) -- then you can set ~/.unity8-greeter-demo with the users=dummyuser setting | 15:13 |
| mterry | seb128, that's a bit of work though | 15:13 |
| Laney | seb128: you mean you see Mouse and Pointer speed with no physical mouse? | 15:13 |
| seb128 | Laney, wait, is that with g-c-c or u-c-c? | 15:13 |
| Laney | u | 15:13 |
| seb128 | k | 15:14 |
| larsu | Laney: no, I have "Mouse" and "Touchpad" sections in addition to the "General" one | 15:14 |
| seb128 | Laney, correct | 15:14 |
| seb128 | idem to larsu | 15:14 |
| larsu | Laney: I guess there are no (detected) devices on that person's machine? | 15:14 |
| seb128 | and that's with only the laptop and its trackpad | 15:14 |
| Laney | oh well | 15:15 |
| larsu | I think the panel hides those sections when the corresponding devices aren't found | 15:15 |
| Laney | I don't want to fix the bug of too many things showing up | 15:15 |
| Laney | :p | 15:15 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:15 |
| Laney | I'll fix the one of not enough things though | 15:15 |
| * larsu can't unplug his touchpad to find out | 15:15 | |
| Laney | seems XI2 can give this information | 15:15 |
| seb128 | larsu, you sure can | 15:15 |
| * seb128 hands larsu some screwdrivers and soldering iron | 15:16 | |
| larsu | lol | 15:16 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:17 |
| larsu | I'm glad I have the touchpad settings, otherwise I couldn't disable it | 15:17 |
| seb128 | sa:e | 15:17 |
| seb128 | same | 15:17 |
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| cyphermox | kenvandine: around? could you tell me what the merge was for the APN editor stuff? | 16:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, did you ack https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/unity-settings-daemon/lp1377847/+merge/237507 | 16:59 |
| seb128 | e.g do you want to do the landing, or also the review/testing? | 16:59 |
| Laney | I want to do the unapproved review | 17:00 |
| Laney | have been running it today though, seems to work fine and I didn't spot anything in the code, not that I am confident I would though | 17:01 |
| Laney | second set of eyes would be welcomed | 17:01 |
| seb128 | k | 17:01 |
| seb128 | it's in silo 26 building | 17:01 |
| seb128 | I'm going to have a look over the code changes as well | 17:01 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/ubuntu-system-settings/apneditor/+merge/237138 | 17:02 |
| Laney | basically I'm worried it will be self approving if I ack the mp | 17:02 |
| seb128 | k | 17:02 |
| seb128 | I can do that and let the queue review to you | 17:02 |
| Laney | cheers | 17:02 |
| Laney | have you been running it? | 17:02 |
| seb128 | not yet, waiting for the ppa build | 17:02 |
| Laney | kay | 17:03 |
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| Laney | calling it a night for now, see you! | 17:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, night! | 17:15 |
| * willcooke EOD | 18:33 | |
| willcooke | g'night | 18:33 |
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| ochosi | xnox: hey there, did you get a chance to look at the ubiquity wallpaper issue? | 20:49 |
| psusi | I've experienced a severe performance regression after updating that I think is due to changes in mesa... I'm trying to find the source and build the old rev and install it to verify, and then begin bisecting, but I can't find the mesa sources; lp:ubuntu/mesa is quite out of date, and Vcs-Git: points to the debian git repo.. where are the ubuntu mesa sources? | 22:02 |
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| darkxst | psusi, ubuntu branches are on debian git I believe | 22:13 |
| psusi | darkxst, it does appear to have an ubuntu branch, however, it does not seem to have any of the -xubuntux tags | 22:20 |
| psusi | it also seems to not have had its pristine-tar branch tended in some time so git-buildpackage fails because it can't recreate the pristine-tar | 22:20 |
| darkxst | oh, that will make bisecting problematic | 22:22 |
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