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| crazyhead42 | I can't seem to get my Ubuntu 13.04 server to work. . . and I'm not sure about it's network status. | 04:06 |
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| crazyhead42 | I've tried to update the system, but keep getting 404 errors. I've changed the location it is trying to get updates from, but I'm getting invalid signitures: "nodata 1" and "nodata 2" | 04:09 |
| crazyhead42 | I chose samba server when first setting it up, if that changes anything. | 04:09 |
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| crazyhead42 | Is anyone on? | 04:31 |
| rww | !eolupgrade | 04:37 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 04:37 |
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| ruben23 | hi guys, how do i backup the whole intere live linux server..? | 04:50 |
| crazyhead42 | Sorry, Ruben, but I don't think anyone is on. | 04:50 |
| ruben23 | crazyhead42: :-( still hoping.. | 04:52 |
| crazyhead42 | It's getting late anyway. | 04:52 |
| crazyhead42 | I'd help you, but I can't get my server up enough to have anything to back up. | 04:53 |
| ruben23 | just want to know how to fuly nackup my entire linux server | 04:58 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:02 |
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| Jakob_ | I'm in need of some help with a squid3 server, i keep getting TCP_denied/403 3915 - standard squid3 configfile, can anyone help (: | 08:02 |
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| Jakob_ | I'm in need of some help with a squid3 server, i keep getting TCP_denied/403 3915 - standard squid3 configfile, can anyone help (: | 08:14 |
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| rbasak | Jakob_: by default squid packaging sets squid up to only permit access from localhost. You'll need to add an ACL rule to the config file to permit access from your local network. | 08:39 |
| helpme | hello | 09:13 |
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| Guest53399 | can't create /var/cache/apt-show-versions/files: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 196. E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i' E: Sub-process returned an error code | 09:13 |
| Guest53399 | Can someone help me | 09:14 |
| Guest53399 | I deleted everything in /var/cache/ | 09:14 |
| lordievader | Guest53399: Why would you delete everything form there? | 09:15 |
| lordievader | from* | 09:15 |
| Guest53399 | Because it said cache | 09:15 |
| Guest53399 | I thought it will regenerate again | 09:15 |
| Guest53399 | I mean the files in folder | 09:16 |
| lordievader | It should, but still it is not a very good idea. | 09:16 |
| Guest53399 | It was not. | 09:16 |
| Guest53399 | a good Idea | 09:16 |
| Guest53399 | Solution lordievader | 09:18 |
| Guest53399 | ? | 09:18 |
| lordievader | Guest53399: Can you still run an "sudo apt-get update"? | 09:19 |
| Guest53399 | I get this error on update | 09:21 |
| Guest53399 | can't create /var/cache/apt-show-versions/files: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 196. E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i' E: Sub-process returned an error code | 09:21 |
| lordievader | Guest53399: Hmm, perhaps "sudo dpkg --configure -a" fixes things? | 09:23 |
| Jeeves_Moss | how do I setup the autodiscover redirect for the exchange auto discover | 09:38 |
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| jamespage | zul, can we catchup on websockify tests when you start pls | 11:01 |
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| Guest53399 | I have a problem | 11:13 |
| Guest53399 | can't create /var/cache/apt-show-versions/files: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 196. E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i' E: Sub-process returned an error code | 11:13 |
| Guest53399 | PLease help | 11:13 |
| lordievader | Guest53399: Did you do what I said? | 11:30 |
| Guest53399 | yes it dint work | 11:39 |
| Guest53399 | I am on a web client. the interface is not so good. please tag me when you reply lordievader | 11:40 |
| Guest53399 | sudo dpkg --configure -a I tried lordievader | 11:41 |
| lordievader | Guest53399: Ok, it didn't solve things? | 11:42 |
| Guest53399 | Nope | 11:43 |
| lordievader | Guest53399: Can you pastebin the output of 'ls -la /var/cache'? | 11:46 |
| Guest53399 | I think its working now | 11:47 |
| Guest53399 | I did sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives | 11:47 |
| zul | jamespage: yep | 11:48 |
| Guest53399 | then sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt-show-versions/ | 11:49 |
| Guest53399 | then make a blank file named file in /var/cache/apt-show-versions/ | 11:50 |
| Guest53399 | then sudo apt-get update | 11:50 |
| Guest53399 | Thanks lordievader | 11:50 |
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| rbasak | jamespage: when you have some time, I'd like your help uploading bcache-tools into Debian - preferably before freeze. | 12:06 |
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| zul | jamespage: hey | 12:30 |
| zul | jamespage: so websockify | 12:36 |
| jamespage | zul, indeed - how goes it? | 12:38 |
| zul | jamespage: well the tests are enabled but not running and im not sure why | 12:39 |
| jamespage | zul, I tried them directly upstream and they appear quite broken as well | 12:42 |
| zul | jamespage: yeah | 12:42 |
| zul | jamespage: and not being comfortable enough with them im not sure what to do | 12:42 |
| jamespage | zul, I wondering whether we just skip the websockify test in nova - it feels not good enough for main | 12:43 |
| zul | jamespage: did you try the git tree? | 12:43 |
| jamespage | zul, yeah | 12:44 |
| zul | same thing? | 12:44 |
| jamespage | zul, yeah | 12:44 |
| jamespage | all sucks | 12:44 |
| jamespage | zul, I got this far - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8520684/ | 12:45 |
| zul | jamespage: i was on trusty by mistake and was running the tests there and they were passing before i noticed I was on trusty for a sec | 12:49 |
| jamespage | zul, they work on trusty? now I'm really uncomfortable websockify is just bust in utopic | 12:49 |
| jamespage | zul, oh in the trusty version you mean? | 12:49 |
| zul | jamespage: mistakenly running the tests on the trusty version | 12:50 |
| Blinkiz | Hi. I would like to set up a VPN (encryption) between two ubuntu servers that can handle around 300 Mbit. What should I choose here? Can OpenVPN manage this? | 12:50 |
| jamespage | zul, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/186746800/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-i386.swift_2.2.0~rc1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 12:51 |
| zul | jamespage: this in the openstack pppa? | 12:51 |
| zul | oh no nevermind | 12:51 |
| jamespage | zul, nope - proposed | 12:52 |
| jamespage | zul, I figure its a 32 bit build issue | 12:52 |
| zul | ah yes | 12:52 |
| jamespage | as I did not see this locally (but I build with an amd64 chroot) | 12:52 |
| zul | "OverflowError: long int too large to convert to in" | 12:52 |
| zul | jamespage: the websockify stuff makes me nervous | 12:53 |
| zul | jamespage: keystone rc2 is out as well if you missed it | 12:53 |
| zul | jamespage: dosaboy commited the tests for websockify upstream so maybe we should ask him :) | 12:54 |
| jamespage | zul, oh did he - dosaboy_ ?? ^^ | 12:54 |
| zul | jamespage: i noticed that yesterday | 12:54 |
| jamespage | dosaboy_, websockify tests appear a bit busted up - can you help us out? | 12:55 |
| dosaboy_ | zul: i didn't write those tests but i did add some fwir | 12:57 |
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| dosaboy | jamespage: do you have an error i can look at? | 12:58 |
| Gunfus_ | Is anyone familiar with a problem related to disk size geomtry out of bounds | 12:58 |
| zul | dosaboy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8520741/ | 12:58 |
| Gunfus_ | after upgrading to the latest release | 12:58 |
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| jamespage | dosaboy, that's direct in the upstream master - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8520742/ | 12:59 |
| dosaboy | jamespage, zul: i'll take a look | 13:00 |
| Gunfus_ | the exact error is: [ 10.753795] EXT4-fs (md0): bad geometr: block count 122096646 exceeds size of device (122096624 blocks) | 13:01 |
| Gunfus_ | I can't mount my raid because of the bad geomtr problem | 13:04 |
| Gunfus_ | anyone? | 13:05 |
| jamespage | dosaboy, thanks | 13:07 |
| jamespage | zul, doing keystone | 13:16 |
| zul | jamespage: ack | 13:16 |
| zul | jamespage: unbreaking my head around with neturon | 13:16 |
| jamespage | zul, doing ceilometer | 13:19 |
| jamespage | not that we actually have rc1 uploaded yet | 13:19 |
| zul | jamespage: well you are doing it in spirit ;) | 13:20 |
| Mars__ | After updating to 14.01, I now get problems about bad geomtry errors on my RAID | 13:38 |
| Mars__ | anyidea? | 13:38 |
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| cfhowlett | Mars__, because there is not 14.01??? | 13:41 |
| Mars__ | ohh ops....I meant to say 14.04.1 | 13:43 |
| cfhowlett | Mars__, noted. | 13:43 |
| Mars__ | what is the best way to go about reporting the problem I saw a question on askubuntu of someone else with the problem | 13:44 |
| cfhowlett | Mars__, bug report??? | 13:45 |
| cfhowlett | !bug | 13:45 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 13:45 |
| Mars__ | okay.. I will go ahead and report it then... | 13:45 |
| Mars__ | is there a way to find out what package is failing? | 13:47 |
| cfhowlett | Mars__, I don't know enough to advise about | 13:49 |
| cfhowlett | raid | 13:49 |
| Mars__ | cfhowlett: okay, thanks | 13:49 |
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| GothPaw | what the best practice to config for a FQDN when multiple domains point to a single IP? | 14:36 |
| rbasak | I consider each machine (or VM or container) to have a single, canonical FQDN. | 14:37 |
| rbasak | Configure everything for that, and consider the others to be aliases. | 14:37 |
| GothPaw | there is only 1 server machine and 14 domains, which is what leads me to this question | 14:38 |
| rbasak | Use the aliases only when you have to (eg. for public-facing virtual hosting, only for Apache configuration) | 14:38 |
| rbasak | If the 14 domains are "equal", then I'd creating a 15th one for the canonical use purpose. | 14:39 |
| rbasak | create | 14:39 |
| GothPaw | not sure what you mean by "equal" | 14:39 |
| rbasak | For example if I'm asked to host 14 customer's websites on a single server. | 14:40 |
| rbasak | customers' | 14:40 |
| rbasak | Then there isn't an obvious thing to call the server. | 14:40 |
| rbasak | So I make another name up, maybe under my own company's domain. | 14:41 |
| rbasak | Use that one everywhere as the canonical name. | 14:41 |
| rbasak | Only Apache (and DNS for the customers' FQDNs) see the other names. | 14:41 |
| GothPaw | ahhhhhh..... gotcha. this works then as 13 belong to other people and one is mine. | 14:42 |
| rbasak | That'll be fine then. As long as there will never be a requirement that the canonical FQDN you use will have to change. | 14:42 |
| rbasak | If that's even a remote possibility, far easier to register a new name now and make sure _that_ one will never change. | 14:43 |
| GothPaw | business name/domain so that won't ever leave | 14:43 |
| GothPaw | perfect. now I just need to hammer out why my postfix/dovecot/vimbadmin portion isn't working..... Although I am looking for other ways then vimbadmin as its been nothing but a hassle for me | 14:45 |
| GothPaw | I wish I had multiple machines for all this .... this one machine is taking a beating "so to speak"...... 1 machine does all the hosting for everything | 14:46 |
| rbasak | Use containers. | 14:50 |
| rbasak | (though I'm not sure how that'd work with only one public-facing IP, if virtual hosting, though) | 14:50 |
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| GothPaw | the virtual hosting is all setup and functioning correctly. now its just a matter of setting up mail for all the domains. Ive got everything down except the vimbadmin which simply just isn't working for me under any configuration I throw at it. basically looking for an alternative way now to setup virtual mail for all the domains | 14:57 |
| GothPaw | I know I can go and manually add it all to postfix, but with 14 domains current and more likely to be added later I am just looking for something a little "easier". | 14:58 |
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| crazyhead42 | I'm using a 32 bit server software, ubuntu 13.04 and can't seem to get it working. my apt-get update currently gets the bad signitures "nodata 1" and "nodata 2" | 15:30 |
| Pici | crazyhead42: 13.04 is not a supported release of Ubuntu. It reached end-of-life in January. | 15:32 |
| teward | crazyhead42: FYI, 13.04 is EOL | 15:32 |
| crazyhead42 | EOL? | 15:32 |
| teward | crazyhead42: end of life | 15:32 |
| Pici | !13.04 | 15:32 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring | 15:32 |
| teward | crazyhead42: it's no longer supported - it reached the "end of life" date in January | 15:33 |
| crazyhead42 | IS there a way to upgrade it? | 15:33 |
| teward | and i was just about to call that factoid too xD | 15:33 |
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| crazyhead42 | I don't really want to switch back to desktop mode, run another install, rewrite the flshdrive, then put my desktop and grub at risk of user error AGAIN | 15:33 |
| jamespage | zul: going to drop websockify; having discussed with dosaboy I don't think its suitable for main inclusion yet | 15:34 |
| zul | jamespage: cool...i didnt think so either | 15:34 |
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| crazyhead42 | drat. I was really hoping I wouldn't have to redo everything. | 15:38 |
| qman__ | !eol | crazyhead42 | 15:38 |
| ubottu | crazyhead42: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 15:38 |
| qman__ | You can upgrade, but you'll have to do two release upgrades to get within support | 15:39 |
| zul | jamespage: btw nova uses python-oslo.utils now | 15:43 |
| jamespage | zul, where do you see that? | 15:43 |
| zul | jamespage: nova/common/openstack/units has been removed | 15:44 |
| jamespage | zul, in master or juno/proposed ? | 15:44 |
| zul | master | 15:44 |
| jamespage | zul, meh - don't care about master for now | 15:44 |
| zul | jamespage: ack | 15:44 |
| jamespage | juno/proposed is my immediate focus | 15:44 |
| jamespage | zul, should be for your work as well for now | 15:44 |
| zul | jamespage: yeah | 15:45 |
| ndee | anyone using a ssh client on the iphone? | 16:21 |
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| axisys | what is the fix for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2010/CVE-2010-5107.html ? I am running 10.04 and 12.04 LTS | 17:30 |
| uvirtbot | axisys: The default configuration of OpenSSH through 6.1 enforces a fixed time limit between establishing a TCP connection and completing a login, which makes it easier for remote attackers to cause a denial of service (connection-slot exhaustion) by periodically making many new TCP connections. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-5107) | 17:30 |
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| patdk-wk | axisys, by reading the notes :) | 17:40 |
| axisys | patdk-wk: changed the LoginGraceTime to 20 from default 120 .. thanks | 17:41 |
| patdk-wk | that isn't what the notes said to do :) | 17:41 |
| patdk-wk | that would just make it worse | 17:41 |
| axisys | "By default, sshd will allow a connected user to wait for 120 seconds (2 minutes) before starting to authenticate. This could be used to conduct a Denial of Service (DoS) or a brute force attack against a running SSH daemon. One solution is lowering this to 20 seconds" | 17:46 |
| axisys | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StricterDefaults | 17:46 |
| axisys | patdk-wk: ^ | 17:47 |
| patdk-wk | oh, I read you changed 20 to 120 :) | 17:49 |
| patdk-wk | but you did the other way | 17:49 |
| patdk-wk | what out for that change :) | 17:49 |
| patdk-wk | if you have dns issues, you won't be able to login | 17:49 |
| patdk-wk | cause the timeout will happen, before the dns gives up resolving your ip | 17:49 |
| axisys | also note says to set MaxStartups to 10:30:100 . default seems safer 10:30:60 | 17:52 |
| patdk-wk | ya | 17:52 |
| axisys | i guess i will just rely on ufw limit ssh which allows 6 per 30 secs default.. | 17:56 |
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| bananapie | Is there a command in Linux to tell the kernel/iptables to forget about all the NAT connections it knows about and start over like if the server just rebooted? | 18:32 |
| bananapie | i'm not talking about iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING 1, I am talking about connections the kernel remembers for packets that have been masqueraded | 18:33 |
| bananapie | found ti | 18:34 |
| bananapie | thanks guys! | 18:35 |
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| Voyage | Line 13,21,28 http://pastebin.com/qEnw6NFR Cant send email by phpmailer via sendmail-bin | 20:54 |
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| jamespage | zul, still around? | 21:36 |
| jamespage | does this make any sense - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127030/ | 21:36 |
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| crazyhead42 | Okay, I'm back and I have a working version of ubuntu server running. Can someone help me configure samba so I can start using it? The instructions require me to know how to do things I can't seem to find online. | 22:41 |
| RoyK | crazyhead42: just configure it :P | 22:42 |
| crazyhead42 | Wow. That seems just like the online instructions I found. :P | 22:43 |
| sarnold | RoyK: did you write the samba guide? :) | 22:43 |
| RoyK | sarnold: no | 22:44 |
| crazyhead42 | But seriously, step one is accessing the file (I found it, but I don't think "less smb.conf" was the right command | 22:44 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: what specifically hsa you stopped? | 22:44 |
| crazyhead42 | Right now, correctly accessing the files - I'm in the samba config file, but in the wrong mode. Speaking of which, how do you get out of "less" mode? | 22:45 |
| sarnold | 'q' | 22:45 |
| RoyK | crazyhead42:it's a bit hard tp say how to configure samba without knowlede of how the rest of the system you're using are | 22:45 |
| sarnold | samba's especially mean | 22:46 |
| RoyK | well, SMB is mean | 22:46 |
| crazyhead42 | Is there a better interface for my windows? | 22:46 |
| RoyK | no | 22:46 |
| crazyhead42 | drat. | 22:46 |
| RoyK | but we're using samba for 20k users at work and it works well | 22:47 |
| crazyhead42 | Okay, well I know it should mainly have the defaults still, 64 bit of the version that was on the banner | 22:47 |
| crazyhead42 | Basic network access, I don't plan to put this online | 22:48 |
| crazyhead42 | what else do you need, and where do I fetch it from? | 22:49 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: nearly everything you could ever want is installable via "apt-get install <foo>" | 22:49 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: you can find the packages with "apt-cache search <foo>" to find allthe packages with foo in the name or description | 22:49 |
| sarnold | apt-cache search mp3 ought to give the flavour of what I mean... | 22:50 |
| crazyhead42 | Foo? What's foo? | 22:51 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: just a placeholder, it's common in unix-land to use 'foo', 'bar', and 'baz' to stand for different things whe you don't really care what those things are :) | 22:52 |
| crazyhead42 | wait, you want me to install EVERYTHING?!?! | 22:53 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: haha no :) that was just a quick demo of how to find whatever it is you might need :) | 22:53 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: more on foo bar and baz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar | 22:53 |
| crazyhead42 | Oh. | 22:54 |
| crazyhead42 | I know how to install things, but I need to set them up, and Ubuntu Server doesn't have a handy GUI like the desktop version. | 22:54 |
| crazyhead42 | Okay, so how do I modify the config file? | 22:56 |
| sarnold | whatever text editor you like | 22:57 |
| sarnold | if you're asking, nano is probably a good plce to start | 22:57 |
| sarnold | I prefer vim | 22:57 |
| sarnold | others prefer emacs | 22:57 |
| sarnold | the learning curves on those are huge but well worth the effort | 22:57 |
| sarnold | but nano will let you finish today :) | 22:57 |
| pmatulis | vim++ | 22:57 |
| crazyhead42 | What's the difference between a wins server or a wins client? | 23:00 |
| pmatulis | isn't WINS a sort of DNS service for Windows/Netbios names? | 23:03 |
| pmatulis | (boy that goes back) | 23:03 |
| sarnold | yeah it does.. man I'm glad to be rid of windows. | 23:03 |
| sarnold | I -think- WINS is the nmbd, right? | 23:04 |
| crazyhead42 | Oh, shoot, chaning that variable didn't mean making it avalible to windows? | 23:05 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: I think if you've already got other windows "servers" on the network you probably don't want to set your samba to a WINS master or whatever they called it.. | 23:06 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: some people want to use their samba servers as the 'masters' of the workgroup or domain and others just want it to be a participating client... | 23:06 |
| crazyhead42 | ?? Way above my head! | 23:07 |
| crazyhead42 | I just want a place to stash files I don't want on my laptop | 23:07 |
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| sarnold | that's samba :/ I've spent weeks reading the bloody documentation (a dozen years ago now, of course), but I never felt like I was in control of the thing. | 23:08 |
| sarnold | between the different types of shares and authentication modes and directory vs domains vs workgroups the whole thing is one gigantic pile of annoying and complicated. | 23:08 |
| crazyhead42 | Personally, I blame microsoft. | 23:09 |
| sarnold | RoyK was able to get it to work for 20k users because they've put time and effort into making it good -- it didn't just come that way easy | 23:09 |
| crazyhead42 | so I'm not going to have it done in time to store my project for school. That's just great. | 23:09 |
| sarnold | funny thing, they adapted the protocol from LANMAN in their usual "adopt, adapt, destroy" approach of the 90s :) they badly missed networking and the internet in particular, and so they copied where they could before they understood those things themselves. hehe. | 23:10 |
| sarnold | original versions of the protocol didn't even work on tcp/ip. dark times. | 23:10 |
| crazyhead42 | Is there a package I could install that will give Samba a working default configuration? | 23:11 |
| crazyhead42 | I don't think I know what I'm doing enough to be playing around in the config file, especially if I couldn't do it in GUI. | 23:12 |
| sarnold | they used to have a gui of some sort, SWAT, but it was a miserable pile of security problems and worse yet you had to know all the details of the configuration file anyway | 23:13 |
| pmatulis | crazyhead42: if you're finding all this overwhelming you might want to investigate Zentyal. it comes as an ISO. so you intall it and voila | 23:13 |
| pmatulis | (based on Ubuntu of course) | 23:14 |
| pmatulis | http://www.zentyal.org/ | 23:15 |
| crazyhead42 | I'm on an "Ubuntu Server". | 23:15 |
| pmatulis | well, you might be able to install individual packages and get the same thing, i'm not sure. you might consider re-installing with this zentyal ISO | 23:15 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: hmmm. I just did "apt-get install samba" and then "smbclient -L localhost" and it looks like a lot of things just worked.... | 23:16 |
| crazyhead42 | so back out, go to home directory, and try smbclient -L? | 23:16 |
| crazyhead42 | wait | 23:16 |
| crazyhead42 | That looks like a list command | 23:16 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: it does, it lists shares and printers on the specific server... | 23:16 |
| crazyhead42 | Okay. . . how do I get one though? Let's assume I'm worrying about security later | 23:19 |
| crazyhead42 | this is kinda rediculous, zentyal doesn't even want to tell me what it is | 23:20 |
| crazyhead42 | and samba doesn't want to give me any idea what I"m doing | 23:21 |
| pmatulis | crazyhead42: you will need to either read some Samba documentation at http://www.samba.org/ or install something like zentyal | 23:25 |
| crazyhead42 | I'm looking into zentyal, I don't have enough time for Samba | 23:27 |
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| sarnold | crazyhead42: do you just need some place to store stuff right away or do you need this to be a fully-functioning windows share? | 23:31 |
| crazyhead42 | What's the difference? | 23:33 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: it'd be easy to use e.g. filezilla to sftp files to your server | 23:34 |
| crazyhead42 | Okay... but what's the difference between that and a windows share? | 23:34 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: but you couldn't just aim winword or excel or at that because windows doesn't know how to natively speak sftp | 23:34 |
| crazyhead42 | ah. So the difference is I'd have to finish everything up, save it on my computer, then send it, then retrieve it again before I can use it? | 23:35 |
| sarnold | yeah | 23:35 |
| crazyhead42 | will I be able to adjust that later, when I figure out how to get a fileshare going? | 23:36 |
| sarnold | depending upon the program / use, it might be just as easy as a share, or it might be horrible :) | 23:36 |
| sarnold | yeah | 23:36 |
| crazyhead42 | I can work with just a storage device for now. I want to upgrade it later, obviously, but for now I just want to clear up some files without deleting them. | 23:37 |
| sarnold | give filezilla (use sftp) or winscp a shot, one might do what you need | 23:37 |
| crazyhead42 | is this for my PC or the server? | 23:38 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: pc | 23:39 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: the server probably already has it running, if you're using ssh to connect anyway | 23:39 |
| crazyhead42 | Huh? | 23:39 |
| crazyhead42 | what's ssh, and is it something that came with the computer? | 23:39 |
| crazyhead42 | *OS | 23:40 |
| crazyhead42 | Also, did I just remove it by purging samba? | 23:40 |
| sarnold | ssh is awesome stuff, it lets you log in to remote computers safely; think "better telnet" | 23:40 |
| crazyhead42 | which I'm not sure I've gotten working on my computer anyway... | 23:41 |
| crazyhead42 | Where should I download filezilla from? | 23:42 |
| crazyhead42 | I don't know which sites are good and which ones contain viruses, but I'm pretty sure I cant' use cnet | 23:43 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: nice paranoia | 23:43 |
| crazyhead42 | More like nice virus. | 23:43 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: looks like I've got https://filezilla-project.org/ in my history -and- wikipedia claims it's the site :) soo hooray | 23:43 |
| crazyhead42 | It ransacked my browser until my computer's time was up. :( It was a good computer. | 23:44 |
| sarnold | :( | 23:45 |
| crazyhead42 | Windows 8 is a curse brought on by dead computers. >:( | 23:46 |
| crazyhead42 | The big green one is the one I'm meant to click, right? | 23:47 |
| sarnold | big green one? | 23:48 |
| crazyhead42 | Big green button. | 23:48 |
| crazyhead42 | Says "Download Now" but looks like millions of advertisments. | 23:48 |
| zul | jamespage: it does to me | 23:48 |
| qman__ | crazyhead42: ot, but a great way to get software for windows (including filezilla) is ninite.com | 23:48 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: hmm. that doesn't sound right. you may still have that virus. | 23:48 |
| zul | jamespage: need to fix the pep8 error though | 23:49 |
| crazyhead42 | No, it's a wayyyyy differnt computer | 23:49 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: all I see on https://filezilla-project.org/ is some grey boxes around "Download FileZilla Client" and near zero advertising (just mention of their sponsors) | 23:49 |
| crazyhead42 | But on download sites, there are advertisments that look like green download now buttons | 23:49 |
| qman__ | crazyhead42: with ninite, check boxes, download one file, it installs everything quietly, no malware, always up to date | 23:50 |
| crazyhead42 | grey? poop. What OS are you on? maybe your button looks diferent than mine because of client detection | 23:50 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: could be, I'm on ubuntu running firefox | 23:50 |
| crazyhead42 | Ah. Win 8 running firefox | 23:50 |
| sarnold | qman__: dang that looks cool. | 23:50 |
| crazyhead42 | Why does something this simple have to be this complicated? | 23:51 |
| qman__ | crazyhead42: use ninite, gets rid of the complication | 23:52 |
| sarnold | crazyhead42: beats me, most linux distros come with useful tools already installed; yet somehow people still think windows is 'easier'. go figure. :) | 23:52 |
| qman__ | Yep | 23:52 |
| qman__ | Real package management is one of the greatest advantages to linux | 23:53 |
| crazyhead42 | It is: everything STARTS with working settings. | 23:53 |
| crazyhead42 | But linux is better if you know what you're doing, or so I have been lead to believe | 23:53 |
| crazyhead42 | I don't think this is nanite.com! | 23:54 |
| qman__ | crazyhead42: windows trains users to have bad habits, downloading programs from all over the internet | 23:54 |
| qman__ | Its something you have to unlearn when switching | 23:55 |
| sarnold | nanite.com looks like usual domain squatter, hehe | 23:55 |
| crazyhead42 | Okay, I've got gray boxes now | 23:55 |
| crazyhead42 | I click on download client, then I get the big green button | 23:56 |
| sarnold | okay, it goes to sourceforge.net, right? | 23:57 |
| crazyhead42 | It does say sourceforge | 23:57 |
| crazyhead42 | yes, it does claim to lead there | 23:57 |
| sarnold | good good. | 23:57 |
| qman__ | Sourceforge doesn't have any big green buttons | 23:58 |
| qman__ | You're probably still infected | 23:58 |
| crazyhead42 | Unlikely, the virus should be contained and dead on the other harddrive | 23:58 |
| sarnold | qman__: what do you see here? https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=client | 23:58 |
| crazyhead42 | a big green download now button next to a picture of what I assume to be a filezilla screen | 23:59 |
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