| === Muhammad is now known as RichardStallman | ||
| ali1234 | does anyone know if the xorg developer conference has a live stream? | 01:32 |
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| OERIAS | Tea Time | 02:52 |
| === RichardStallman is now known as Coimbra | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 06:50 |
| Myrtti | moin brobostigon | 06:51 |
| brobostigon | guten morgen Myrtti | 06:51 |
| === oab1 is now known as primary_oab1 | ||
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:23 |
| davmor2 | Todays tune is a mix of I got the power, park life and bitter sweet symphony | 08:24 |
| foobarry | hmm | 08:24 |
| foobarry | i got the park life, thats life | 08:25 |
| awilkins | Where does Evolution keep it's config? | 08:30 |
| foobarry | .local/share/evolution? | 08:30 |
| awilkins | Hummph | 08:32 |
| awilkins | Can't seem to delete it | 08:32 |
| awilkins | I guess it pulls accounts from the accounts things | 08:32 |
| foobarry | kill the evolution data server? | 08:33 |
| foobarry | lsof ? | 08:33 |
| awilkins | Ah | 08:33 |
| awilkins | Ok, that's annoying, added a new account and it doesn't show up until you kill the evolution processes | 08:34 |
| foobarry | i don't think evolution has evolved in about 10yrs | 08:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | ironic really :-) | 08:35 |
| awilkins | It won't log in anyway | 08:35 |
| * awilkins logs in with Outlook to check if he's locked his account out with Basic when he should have used NTLM | 08:36 | |
| awilkins | Not locked out | 08:36 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy World Octopus Day! :-D | 08:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | donate a squid today to help | 08:39 |
| Myrtti | there is some files in .config | 08:39 |
| diddledan_ | I had sick squid once | 08:39 |
| diddledan_ | I spent it on sweets | 08:39 |
| awilkins | Well, the EWS plugin for Evolution doesn't work for me, and I'm leaving this Exchange-based job in 3 weeks anyway | 08:48 |
| awilkins | Thus ends my most recent flirtation with Evolution as a mail client | 08:49 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: does that mean we all have an excuse to see roger moore fly a plane from a horse butt again? | 08:49 |
| foobarry | as an adult i realised that roger moore is the most wooden actor ever | 08:50 |
| foobarry | as a child i thought he was cool | 08:50 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, what you do in your spare time is your business. ;) | 08:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | last time i was condemned to use outlook i just made it forward all email to gmail and got gmail to spoof outgoing email as from the outlook domain. cut down on the driving me bonkers | 08:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | i used to quite like outlook express as it didn't get in the way | 08:52 |
| foobarry | lots of jobs going. who wants one? | 08:56 |
| foobarry | windows, linux, storage, vmware, hpc, | 08:56 |
| foobarry | https://www.hpc.qmul.ac.uk/twiki/bin/view/HPC/VacantPosts | 09:03 |
| Laney | who manages freenode cloaks? #freenode? | 09:08 |
| Laney | I noticed that I'm pdpc.active still ... | 09:08 |
| jussi | Laney: I think so | 09:10 |
| dutchie | Laney: yeah | 09:10 |
| Laney | oh hey jussi, congrats ;-) | 09:10 |
| jussi | hi Laney! thanks! | 09:10 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 09:10 |
| dutchie | strange coincidence, i just ditched my pdpc supporter cloak | 09:11 |
| jussi | tired, but good :) | 09:11 |
| Myrtti | last time I was condemned to use Exchange and had to use Evolution, when I was finally released from the pain, I fell on my knees of gratitude and got palm sized bruises on them | 09:12 |
| popey | mmmm palm | 09:18 |
| jussi | Laney: hows things over there? | 09:20 |
| Laney | tickin' over | 09:20 |
| Laney | been trying to buy a house for ages | 09:21 |
| Laney | beer festival on friday \o/ | 09:21 |
| Laney | http://www.beerfestival.nottinghamcamra.org/Assets_pdf/BF2014_Beer_Prog_Notes.pdf | 09:22 |
| jussi | Laney: yay! beer! | 09:23 |
| Laney | actually it starts today, tempted to have a preview ... | 09:24 |
| jussi | Laney: :D | 09:24 |
| jussi | hullo popey :) | 09:24 |
| popey | yo | 09:28 |
| directhex | wife has ordered her new tablet. total cost: £1.75 | 09:49 |
| directhex | tesco hudl's economics make no sense | 09:49 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| zmoylan-pi | you spend a lot in tescos then | 09:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | so they already made their money and it was rsting in their accounts, unless the tax man came looking of course :-) | 09:52 |
| popey | directhex: is that the new x86 one? | 09:54 |
| directhex | yes | 09:54 |
| popey | iiiinteresting | 09:54 |
| NET||abuse | hmm, having trouble compiling gource, fairly standard setup, just keep getting configure: error: Could not link against -lGLU ! | 09:54 |
| popey | be interested to try and get ubuntu on one of them | 09:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | what's the battery life like? | 09:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | you just hear x86 and you can imagine the battery gauge dropping as you look at it | 09:57 |
| popey | directhex: is that with lots of tesco points or something | 10:00 |
| directhex | popey: yes | 10:00 |
| popey | heh | 10:00 |
| popey | do you know who makes them for tesco? | 10:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | and now they can monitor your browsing habits and target you better :-) | 10:01 |
| directhex | popey: there's a 2:1 gearing on clubcard vouchers when buying hudl or accessories, so £129 cash or £64.50 clubcard vouchers | 10:01 |
| directhex | popey: i believe it's top secret. | 10:01 |
| directhex | (archos) | 10:01 |
| directhex | well, archos made hudl 1 anyway, afaik | 10:01 |
| directhex | ( http://www.archos.com/corporate/press/press_releases/archos_OEM_STRATEGY_en.pdf ) | 10:01 |
| NET||abuse | what's the best tablet going right now? If I weren't to get a nexus 7, what would I get, or is it just stick with the nexus 7? | 10:04 |
| NET||abuse | not too fussed about size, 7,8 or 10" is all fine | 10:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm quite happy with asus 7" i got from argos cheap | 10:05 |
| NET||abuse | I had the old nexus7 model, but it got crushed in my hand luggage on a flight :( | 10:05 |
| directhex | NET||abuse: best full stop, or best on a given budget, or best for a given use case? | 10:05 |
| NET||abuse | directhex, yeh, i had a feeling that would be the reality of it:( what's the best full sstop? | 10:05 |
| NET||abuse | then i'll think about budget :) | 10:06 |
| NET||abuse | sticking with android too | 10:06 |
| directhex | everyone still loves ipads, right? | 10:06 |
| directhex | rumour is there's a new htc-made nexus tablet coming soon | 10:06 |
| NET||abuse | haha, burn the mac's! | 10:06 |
| Myrtti | I certainly hope it's coming soon | 10:06 |
| Myrtti | I've already told my niece to hold on to her money and instead of getting a non-Retina iPad Mini wait until that Nexus Tablet is out | 10:07 |
| directhex | i can't argue with hudl economics, even if it sucks | 10:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | my only must haves for a tablet are memory card slot, a case to put it in, 7+ hour battery life, gps | 10:08 |
| NET||abuse | hard to decide on what to do. | 10:25 |
| NET||abuse | the rumours say new nexus THIS month! | 10:25 |
| NET||abuse | nice | 10:25 |
| TwistedLucidity | Can the hudl be rooted/hacked? | 10:25 |
| TwistedLucidity | NET||abuse: But it's HTC...yuck. | 10:25 |
| NET||abuse | TwistedLucidity, the first htc desires were some of my favourite phones.. will have to wait and se | 10:25 |
| NET||abuse | the htc one didn't quite hit the spec points but ultimately people seemed possitive on it's build quality | 10:26 |
| TwistedLucidity | I have an HTC Desire X. Piece of garbage. Various broken account/DAV implementations and no updates. It's so bad, I will try to avoud any NTC products in the future. | 10:26 |
| NET||abuse | TwistedLucidity, well, hopefully the software side is purely driven by google. | 10:27 |
| awilkins | Indeed ; HTC hardware isn't bad | 10:29 |
| awilkins | The ex-wife has a Desire Z | 10:29 |
| awilkins | It's lasted her years | 10:29 |
| awilkins | Daughter has a Hudl 1 | 10:30 |
| popey | haha, hudle works out at £39 for me | 10:36 |
| foobarry | in vouchers? | 10:37 |
| foobarry | hmm. was gonna spend my vouchers on rac recovery | 10:37 |
| popey | yeah, 129 -> 39 | 10:37 |
| foobarry | hmm | 10:38 |
| foobarry | hudl 2? | 10:38 |
| popey | yes | 10:38 |
| awilkins | I'm happy with my 2012 N7 | 10:38 |
| awilkins | I'd really only consider a Hudl if it was Cyanogen-able | 10:39 |
| foobarry | i will get a hudl when my hp touchpad dies | 10:39 |
| popey | ditto ubuntu-able | 10:39 |
| awilkins | And my N7 was broken or the battery life was so degraded that it made me want to cry | 10:39 |
| foobarry | my wifes samsung galaxy 10.1 is so slow | 10:39 |
| Myrtti | I should CM my 2012 | 10:39 |
| Myrtti | although I suspect most of the problem is due to 2.4GHz wifi | 10:40 |
| foobarry | i wish it was easier to decrapify android | 10:40 |
| awilkins | If they don't release official Android L for my N4 and N7 I probably will CM them | 10:40 |
| Myrtti | awilkins: they won't | 10:40 |
| foobarry | android is nearer windows than linux | 10:40 |
| Myrtti | the cycle has been two years | 10:40 |
| awilkins | Myrtti, Yeah, I hate that... especially since I hear they are testing it on N4s inside Mountain View. | 10:40 |
| awilkins | Myrtti, But marketroids will be marketroids | 10:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | well you add java to anything and performace is going to drop :-) | 10:41 |
| awilkins | There's no technical reason not to - L is supposed to improve performance a lot, and they already have all the kernel drivers | 10:41 |
| awilkins | zmoylan-pi, The new execution environment is supposed to take care of that by doing AOT compiles instead of JIT | 10:42 |
| Myrtti | I wish the application developers would give ART some love too | 10:42 |
| foobarry | daughter took her first steps \o/ | 10:56 |
| christel | \o/ | 10:57 |
| christel | hooray | 10:57 |
| foobarry | about time | 10:57 |
| foobarry | she's 19 months | 10:57 |
| foobarry | suddenly she stood up and took 2 steps towards me. "WIFEY I THINK ITS TIME!" | 10:57 |
| christel | :) | 10:57 |
| foobarry | then she did a performance for the phone | 10:57 |
| * christel claps | 11:00 | |
| christel | clever girl! | 11:00 |
| Seeker` | Does anyone have any recommendations for a colo service near oxford? | 11:05 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| foobarry | got a building question | 12:44 |
| foobarry | does anyone know about submitting to building control? | 12:44 |
| foobarry | talks about full plans and building notice. nor sure which one i am supposed to do | 12:45 |
| brobostigon | any ideas, i am getitng a "500 ssl read timeout" in irssi, ? | 12:46 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| * popey wonders if directhex is watching https://evolve.xamarin.com/live | 13:08 | |
| * brobostigon is watching nick clegg talking. | 13:09 | |
| popey | pfft | 13:09 |
| directhex | popey: i am now | 13:09 |
| popey | he has nothing remotely interesting to say | 13:09 |
| brobostigon | i said exactly that, about cameron last week. | 13:10 |
| Seeker` | you could say that about all politicians | 13:21 |
| brobostigon | varies, some do, some dont. | 13:22 |
| Seeker` | Boris is ok | 13:23 |
| Seeker` | on HIGNFY | 13:23 |
| * awilkins also listening to Clegg | 13:23 | |
| awilkins | Boris is an evil sod that plays the amiable buffoon well | 13:23 |
| brobostigon | i saw a good nickname in private eye for my local mp, a few weeks ago, sir tony baldrick. | 13:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | isn't baldrick enough of a curse? | 13:38 |
| brobostigon | i can think of better. :) | 13:39 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| brobostigon | remeber when baldrick stood as an mp, in a rotten borough? it was clearly inspired by that. | 13:41 |
| Seeker` | baldrick was PM | 13:42 |
| brobostigon | the current PM ? | 13:42 |
| Seeker` | didn't you see Blackadder Back and Forth? | 13:42 |
| brobostigon | yes, i did. i was pulling a joke. | 13:43 |
| brobostigon | comparingour current PM to baldrick. | 13:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | and baldrick as mp was black adder iii | 13:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | pfft, philistines :-) | 13:46 |
| brobostigon | :) | 13:46 |
| brobostigon | stood against william pitt. | 13:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | and still not as funny as yes minister for understanding politics :-D | 13:47 |
| brobostigon | :) | 13:48 |
| brobostigon | agreed. | 13:48 |
| brobostigon | and its sequal. | 13:48 |
| Seeker` | The Thick of It was better :P | 14:02 |
| awilkins | Does this work on Chromium or is it missing some vital evil DRM thing? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins | 14:31 |
| davmor2 | Seeker`: wibble | 14:31 |
| davmor2 | Seeker`: Yes minister was funnier though | 14:32 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| dutchie | awilkins: it is missing some vital evil drm thing | 14:38 |
| awilkins | dutchie, Yeah, that was the conclusion I came to | 14:38 |
| awilkins | No "WidevineCDM" | 14:38 |
| dutchie | real chrome works fine | 14:38 |
| awilkins | Installing the standard vessel of evil that is Chrome | 14:38 |
| awilkins | Might have to tickle libnss | 14:39 |
| dutchie | shouldn't have to | 14:39 |
| dutchie | it works fine for me with the UA tweak | 14:39 |
| awilkins | Yeah, I heard the update was getting put into trusty-updates | 14:40 |
| awilkins | And holy cow it worked | 14:42 |
| popey | directhex: that was super interesting stuff | 14:59 |
| popey | directhex: lusting after some of that stuff on ubuntu now ㋛ | 15:00 |
| directhex | popey: for app dev, yeah. i can't see some of those deep analytics things being popular in FOSS, but for the end user, "i know exactly where & why your app crashed, i just uploaded a fix" without user intervention is super nice | 15:00 |
| popey | yeah, for enterprise apps, very much so | 15:05 |
| directhex | not sure how much other in-the-oven newness is being announced at Evolve, given the keynote's over | 15:08 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| DJones | Myrtti: Do you remember a conversation a month or so back about google streetview cameras being used in museums etc? How this...Google Camelview...http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29540190 Must be interesting seeing miles & miles of sand dunes | 17:32 |
| Myrtti | cool | 17:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | must be interesting image stabilisation? | 17:36 |
| * zmoylan-pi awaits the day some person who wants to be very rich releases a tiny cheap gps/wifi ssid location that'll hang on a cats collar and charge upload images wirelessly :-) | 17:38 | |
| ali1234 | alreday been done | 17:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i've seen cameras but not low intervention (wireless charging and uploading) so it requires depending on the cat some effort to put on and take off | 17:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | i still have scars from changing one cats flea collars from 30 years ago :-) | 17:43 |
| daftykins | hmm, the game 'Dragon Age - Origins' is free on EA's nasty 'Origin' game client right now | 17:48 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/n2nuxf4uw8sk8nz/originsfromorigin.png?dl=0 | 17:49 |
| daftykins | a platform that claims my 40Mb tubes can pull down at this speed 0o | 17:49 |
| popey | which SSD do we generally recommend these days? | 20:20 |
| popey | Still Intel? | 20:20 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Samsung are good too. And Crucial's M500 range (though that might be old, check for their newest) | 20:30 |
| davmor2 | popey: Samsung | 20:31 |
| directhex | M550 is current | 20:32 |
| directhex | i'm looking at a Sandisk in my next machine. wife has sandisk currently | 20:32 |
| directhex | there are not many 1T black-and-red SSDs. | 20:32 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| popey | dangerously close to buying this telly http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HZAVAC0 | 20:45 |
| davmor2 | popey: this is obviously what you want http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-UE40HU6900-inch-Smart-Built/dp/B00JWTVSQU ;) | 20:48 |
| popey | lolz | 20:48 |
| davmor2 | popey: is that a no? just image the gfx improvement you would see on minecraft ;) /me waits for the long string of lolz :D | 20:50 |
| popey | heh | 20:50 |
| foobarry | arrrgh | 20:51 |
| foobarry | getting an extension is stressful | 20:51 |
| popey | why do all TV's have only 2 HDMI | 20:52 |
| foobarry | so much technical stuff i don't understand | 20:52 |
| Azelphur | Thanks EA https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=91dcb0ad261c2801ce58e33974e57a4a | 20:53 |
| Myrtti | coz you're supposed to have a AVR that you plug your things into and you plug that into the tv | 20:53 |
| popey | our local cinema is being made out of minecraft blocks https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10710895_10202697903113777_7732062336306266502_n.jpg?oh=42bf4b4ce0cf32671eb4c3f5967471d3&oe=54B394FE | 20:54 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| davmor2 | popey: nice | 21:16 |
| popey | decided to hold back for a bit | 21:52 |
| diddledan | kill all the usb: http://blog.lumension.com/9442/unpatchable-badusb-malware-code-is-now-publicly-available | 21:54 |
| ali1234 | remember to also kill any PS/2 keyboard port as well, since they have exactly the same vulnerability | 21:58 |
| ali1234 | namely, that you can plug a keyboard in to them | 21:58 |
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