=== Muhammad is now known as RichardStallman [01:32] does anyone know if the xorg developer conference has a live stream? [02:52] Tea Time === RichardStallman is now known as Coimbra [06:50] morning boys and girls. [06:51] moin brobostigon [06:51] guten morgen Myrtti === oab1 is now known as primary_oab1 === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [08:23] Morning all [08:24] Todays tune is a mix of I got the power, park life and bitter sweet symphony [08:24] hmm [08:25] i got the park life, thats life [08:30] Where does Evolution keep it's config? [08:30] .local/share/evolution? [08:32] Hummph [08:32] Can't seem to delete it [08:32] I guess it pulls accounts from the accounts things [08:33] kill the evolution data server? [08:33] lsof ? [08:33] Ah [08:34] Ok, that's annoying, added a new account and it doesn't show up until you kill the evolution processes [08:34] i don't think evolution has evolved in about 10yrs [08:35] ironic really :-) [08:35] It won't log in anyway [08:36] * awilkins logs in with Outlook to check if he's locked his account out with Basic when he should have used NTLM [08:36] Not locked out [08:37] Good morning all; happy World Octopus Day! :-D [08:39] donate a squid today to help [08:39] there is some files in .config [08:39] I had sick squid once [08:39] I spent it on sweets [08:48] Well, the EWS plugin for Evolution doesn't work for me, and I'm leaving this Exchange-based job in 3 weeks anyway [08:49] Thus ends my most recent flirtation with Evolution as a mail client [08:49] JamesTait: does that mean we all have an excuse to see roger moore fly a plane from a horse butt again? [08:50] as an adult i realised that roger moore is the most wooden actor ever [08:50] as a child i thought he was cool [08:51] davmor2, what you do in your spare time is your business. ;) [08:52] last time i was condemned to use outlook i just made it forward all email to gmail and got gmail to spoof outgoing email as from the outlook domain. cut down on the driving me bonkers [08:52] i used to quite like outlook express as it didn't get in the way [08:56] lots of jobs going. who wants one? [08:56] windows, linux, storage, vmware, hpc, [09:03] https://www.hpc.qmul.ac.uk/twiki/bin/view/HPC/VacantPosts [09:08] who manages freenode cloaks? #freenode? [09:08] I noticed that I'm pdpc.active still ... [09:10] Laney: I think so [09:10] Laney: yeah [09:10] oh hey jussi, congrats ;-) [09:10] hi Laney! thanks! [09:10] how's it going? [09:11] strange coincidence, i just ditched my pdpc supporter cloak [09:11] tired, but good :) [09:12] last time I was condemned to use Exchange and had to use Evolution, when I was finally released from the pain, I fell on my knees of gratitude and got palm sized bruises on them [09:18] mmmm palm [09:20] Laney: hows things over there? [09:20] tickin' over [09:21] been trying to buy a house for ages [09:21] beer festival on friday \o/ [09:22] http://www.beerfestival.nottinghamcamra.org/Assets_pdf/BF2014_Beer_Prog_Notes.pdf [09:23] Laney: yay! beer! [09:24] actually it starts today, tempted to have a preview ... [09:24] Laney: :D [09:24] hullo popey :) [09:28] yo [09:49] wife has ordered her new tablet. total cost: £1.75 [09:49] tesco hudl's economics make no sense === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:51] you spend a lot in tescos then [09:52] so they already made their money and it was rsting in their accounts, unless the tax man came looking of course :-) [09:54] directhex: is that the new x86 one? [09:54] yes [09:54] iiiinteresting [09:54] hmm, having trouble compiling gource, fairly standard setup, just keep getting configure: error: Could not link against -lGLU ! [09:55] be interested to try and get ubuntu on one of them [09:56] what's the battery life like? [09:57] you just hear x86 and you can imagine the battery gauge dropping as you look at it [10:00] directhex: is that with lots of tesco points or something [10:00] popey: yes [10:00] heh [10:00] do you know who makes them for tesco? [10:01] and now they can monitor your browsing habits and target you better :-) [10:01] popey: there's a 2:1 gearing on clubcard vouchers when buying hudl or accessories, so £129 cash or £64.50 clubcard vouchers [10:01] popey: i believe it's top secret. [10:01] (archos) [10:01] well, archos made hudl 1 anyway, afaik [10:01] ( http://www.archos.com/corporate/press/press_releases/archos_OEM_STRATEGY_en.pdf ) [10:04] what's the best tablet going right now? If I weren't to get a nexus 7, what would I get, or is it just stick with the nexus 7? [10:04] not too fussed about size, 7,8 or 10" is all fine [10:05] i'm quite happy with asus 7" i got from argos cheap [10:05] I had the old nexus7 model, but it got crushed in my hand luggage on a flight :( [10:05] NET||abuse: best full stop, or best on a given budget, or best for a given use case? [10:05] directhex, yeh, i had a feeling that would be the reality of it:( what's the best full sstop? [10:06] then i'll think about budget :) [10:06] sticking with android too [10:06] everyone still loves ipads, right? [10:06] rumour is there's a new htc-made nexus tablet coming soon [10:06] haha, burn the mac's! [10:06] I certainly hope it's coming soon [10:07] I've already told my niece to hold on to her money and instead of getting a non-Retina iPad Mini wait until that Nexus Tablet is out [10:07] i can't argue with hudl economics, even if it sucks [10:08] my only must haves for a tablet are memory card slot, a case to put it in, 7+ hour battery life, gps [10:25] hard to decide on what to do. [10:25] the rumours say new nexus THIS month! [10:25] nice [10:25] Can the hudl be rooted/hacked? [10:25] NET||abuse: But it's HTC...yuck. [10:25] TwistedLucidity, the first htc desires were some of my favourite phones.. will have to wait and se [10:26] the htc one didn't quite hit the spec points but ultimately people seemed possitive on it's build quality [10:26] I have an HTC Desire X. Piece of garbage. Various broken account/DAV implementations and no updates. It's so bad, I will try to avoud any NTC products in the future. [10:27] TwistedLucidity, well, hopefully the software side is purely driven by google. [10:29] Indeed ; HTC hardware isn't bad [10:29] The ex-wife has a Desire Z [10:29] It's lasted her years [10:30] Daughter has a Hudl 1 [10:36] haha, hudle works out at £39 for me [10:37] in vouchers? [10:37] hmm. was gonna spend my vouchers on rac recovery [10:37] yeah, 129 -> 39 [10:38] hmm [10:38] hudl 2? [10:38] yes [10:38] I'm happy with my 2012 N7 [10:39] I'd really only consider a Hudl if it was Cyanogen-able [10:39] i will get a hudl when my hp touchpad dies [10:39] ditto ubuntu-able [10:39] And my N7 was broken or the battery life was so degraded that it made me want to cry [10:39] my wifes samsung galaxy 10.1 is so slow [10:39] I should CM my 2012 [10:40] although I suspect most of the problem is due to 2.4GHz wifi [10:40] i wish it was easier to decrapify android [10:40] If they don't release official Android L for my N4 and N7 I probably will CM them [10:40] awilkins: they won't [10:40] android is nearer windows than linux [10:40] the cycle has been two years [10:40] Myrtti, Yeah, I hate that... especially since I hear they are testing it on N4s inside Mountain View. [10:41] Myrtti, But marketroids will be marketroids [10:41] well you add java to anything and performace is going to drop :-) [10:41] There's no technical reason not to - L is supposed to improve performance a lot, and they already have all the kernel drivers [10:42] zmoylan-pi, The new execution environment is supposed to take care of that by doing AOT compiles instead of JIT [10:42] I wish the application developers would give ART some love too [10:56] daughter took her first steps \o/ [10:57] \o/ [10:57] hooray [10:57] about time [10:57] she's 19 months [10:57] suddenly she stood up and took 2 steps towards me. "WIFEY I THINK ITS TIME!" [10:57] :) [10:57] then she did a performance for the phone [11:00] * christel claps [11:00] clever girl! [11:05] Does anyone have any recommendations for a colo service near oxford? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [12:44] got a building question [12:44] does anyone know about submitting to building control? [12:45] talks about full plans and building notice. nor sure which one i am supposed to do [12:46] any ideas, i am getitng a "500 ssl read timeout" in irssi, ? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:08] * popey wonders if directhex is watching https://evolve.xamarin.com/live [13:09] * brobostigon is watching nick clegg talking. [13:09] pfft [13:09] popey: i am now [13:09] he has nothing remotely interesting to say [13:10] i said exactly that, about cameron last week. [13:21] you could say that about all politicians [13:22] varies, some do, some dont. [13:23] Boris is ok [13:23] on HIGNFY [13:23] * awilkins also listening to Clegg [13:23] Boris is an evil sod that plays the amiable buffoon well [13:24] i saw a good nickname in private eye for my local mp, a few weeks ago, sir tony baldrick. [13:38] isn't baldrick enough of a curse? [13:39] i can think of better. :) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:41] remeber when baldrick stood as an mp, in a rotten borough? it was clearly inspired by that. [13:42] baldrick was PM [13:42] the current PM ? [13:42] didn't you see Blackadder Back and Forth? [13:43] yes, i did. i was pulling a joke. [13:43] comparingour current PM to baldrick. [13:46] and baldrick as mp was black adder iii [13:46] pfft, philistines :-) [13:46] :) [13:47] stood against william pitt. [13:47] and still not as funny as yes minister for understanding politics :-D [13:48] :) [13:48] agreed. [13:48] and its sequal. [14:02] The Thick of It was better :P [14:31] Does this work on Chromium or is it missing some vital evil DRM thing? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins [14:31] Seeker`: wibble [14:32] Seeker`: Yes minister was funnier though === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [14:38] awilkins: it is missing some vital evil drm thing [14:38] dutchie, Yeah, that was the conclusion I came to [14:38] No "WidevineCDM" [14:38] real chrome works fine [14:38] Installing the standard vessel of evil that is Chrome [14:39] Might have to tickle libnss [14:39] shouldn't have to [14:39] it works fine for me with the UA tweak [14:40] Yeah, I heard the update was getting put into trusty-updates [14:42] And holy cow it worked [14:59] directhex: that was super interesting stuff [15:00] directhex: lusting after some of that stuff on ubuntu now ㋛ [15:00] popey: for app dev, yeah. i can't see some of those deep analytics things being popular in FOSS, but for the end user, "i know exactly where & why your app crashed, i just uploaded a fix" without user intervention is super nice [15:05] yeah, for enterprise apps, very much so [15:08] not sure how much other in-the-oven newness is being announced at Evolve, given the keynote's over === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:32] Myrtti: Do you remember a conversation a month or so back about google streetview cameras being used in museums etc? How this...Google Camelview...http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29540190 Must be interesting seeing miles & miles of sand dunes [17:33] cool [17:36] must be interesting image stabilisation? [17:38] * zmoylan-pi awaits the day some person who wants to be very rich releases a tiny cheap gps/wifi ssid location that'll hang on a cats collar and charge upload images wirelessly :-) [17:42] alreday been done [17:43] i've seen cameras but not low intervention (wireless charging and uploading) so it requires depending on the cat some effort to put on and take off [17:43] i still have scars from changing one cats flea collars from 30 years ago :-) [17:48] hmm, the game 'Dragon Age - Origins' is free on EA's nasty 'Origin' game client right now [17:49] https://www.dropbox.com/s/n2nuxf4uw8sk8nz/originsfromorigin.png?dl=0 [17:49] a platform that claims my 40Mb tubes can pull down at this speed 0o [20:20] which SSD do we generally recommend these days? [20:20] Still Intel? [20:30] popey: Samsung are good too. And Crucial's M500 range (though that might be old, check for their newest) [20:31] popey: Samsung [20:32] M550 is current [20:32] i'm looking at a Sandisk in my next machine. wife has sandisk currently [20:32] there are not many 1T black-and-red SSDs. === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [20:45] dangerously close to buying this telly http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HZAVAC0 [20:48] popey: this is obviously what you want http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-UE40HU6900-inch-Smart-Built/dp/B00JWTVSQU ;) [20:48] lolz [20:50] popey: is that a no? just image the gfx improvement you would see on minecraft ;) /me waits for the long string of lolz :D [20:50] heh [20:51] arrrgh [20:51] getting an extension is stressful [20:52] why do all TV's have only 2 HDMI [20:52] so much technical stuff i don't understand [20:53] Thanks EA https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=91dcb0ad261c2801ce58e33974e57a4a [20:53] coz you're supposed to have a AVR that you plug your things into and you plug that into the tv [20:54] our local cinema is being made out of minecraft blocks https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10710895_10202697903113777_7732062336306266502_n.jpg?oh=42bf4b4ce0cf32671eb4c3f5967471d3&oe=54B394FE === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [21:16] popey: nice [21:52] decided to hold back for a bit [21:54] kill all the usb: http://blog.lumension.com/9442/unpatchable-badusb-malware-code-is-now-publicly-available [21:58] remember to also kill any PS/2 keyboard port as well, since they have exactly the same vulnerability [21:58] namely, that you can plug a keyboard in to them