[00:00] <ashley01> but no worries, it's not a major problem
[00:00] <_unreal_> ugh what is that stupid program called
[00:00] <AR45_> Well day 3 of installing Ubuntu on Mac!
[00:01] <_unreal_> putty
[00:01] <ashley01> it says above ^ that putty is a windows program
[00:01] <_unreal_> asher1, if you have a second computer that has windows on it you can get a free program called putty
[00:01] <ashley01> its ashley01
[00:01] <_unreal_> auto fill in
[00:01] <ashley01> but yeah, i might try it sometime
[00:02] <_unreal_> ok your on the linux system right now ya?
[00:02] <ashley01> yes
[00:02] <_unreal_> ok
[00:02] <_unreal_> do you know what your ip address is? LOCAL
[00:02] <ashley01> 192.168.1.xx
[00:02] <ashley01> not sure what the xx's are at the moment
[00:04] <_unreal_> ?
[00:04] <_unreal_> um
[00:04] <ashley01> im not very good with networking stuff, sorry
[00:04] <AR45_> does ubuntu mount blank cds?
[00:04] <_unreal_> ok open up a terminal and type: ip add
[00:05] <_unreal_> AR45, not that I know of
[00:05] <daftykins> AR45_: can't mount something with no file system
[00:05] <ashley01> what are you getting me to do?
[00:05] <AR45_> daftykins: How can I check if the cd is blank then?
[00:05] <_unreal_> find out your ip address
[00:05] <_unreal_> you can SSH into your self from your computer
[00:05] <Ben64> AR45: open up k3b or something similar
[00:05] <AR45_> daftykins: I ask because this one didn't mount comspared to the other
[00:05] <_unreal_> this will give you practice
[00:05] <daftykins> AR45_: try to write to it
[00:05] <ashley01> oh nice
[00:05] <_unreal_> and show if your ssh server is up and running
[00:06] <ashley01> brb
[00:06] <AR45_> daftykins: well I don't wanna write to the cd if it's blank! this might be my only one..
[00:06] <_unreal_> ashley01,  are you on wifi or network cable?
[00:06] <daftykins> AR45_: look  at the surface then. it's obvious to see the different colour tone to written area
[00:07] <AR45_> daftykins: Okay it's blank!
[00:07] <_unreal_> ashley01, better be quick cause I need to feed my daughter and read her a book,
[00:08] <AR45_> daftykins: now to find a cd version of ubuntu :D
[00:08] <_unreal_> cd version?
[00:08] <_unreal_> AR45, why do you need a CD vesion
[00:08] <daftykins> AR45_: are you still messing with this mac? using a CD install isn't going to change your success.
[00:08] <AR45_> daftykins: yes it will
[00:09] <AR45_> daftykins: the problem is the NVIDIA driver cannot run in EFI
[00:09] <_unreal_> AR45, how old is the mac? they have had dvd drives for a long old time
[00:09] <AR45_> daftykins: so I need to burn ubutu u on this cd and let it do it from bios
[00:09] <daftykins> AR45_: you don't need different media to run in legacy vs EFI
[00:09] <AR45_> _unreal_: 2010 MBP
[00:10] <_unreal_> then go with a dvd image that is designed for intel/mac
[00:10] <daftykins> _unreal_: you're coming in late on a sordid tale, so it's not worth explaining from scratch 'cause it's a tale faaaar further along :)
[00:10] <squinty> AR45:  fwiw, upon closing the drive door, most current os's will have a pop up asking what you wish to do with a blank disk (as it is recognized as such) or open a default application
[00:10] <_unreal_> daftykins, some times multi people saying HAY DUH helps ;)
[00:11] <daftykins> heh
[00:11] <AR45_> daftykins: others have had success http://korrekt.org/page/Note:How_to_install_%28K%29Ubuntu_14.04_on_Macbook_7,1
[00:11] <AR45_> daftykins: also I had an article from arch linux and nvidia
[00:12] <AR45_> daftykins: the reason x dies is because the nvidia driver doesn't support efi
[00:12] <_unreal_> AR45, use an image BUILT for mac. YOUR mac. they are out there.
[00:12] <_unreal_> with that I need to go feed my child and read her a book before she goes to bed.
[00:12] <AR45_> _unreal_: o_o really?
[00:12] <_unreal_> if ashley01 is looking for me I'll be back later
[00:12] <_unreal_> single full time dad
[00:12] <_unreal_> 5yo
[00:13] <daftykins> AR45_: you were installing from the mac ISOs yes?
[00:13] <daftykins> _unreal_: no offence but your life history is off topic ;)
[00:13] <AR45_> daftykins: yes the one on the website was a_unreal_ sayin that there is a special iso for my mac in particular
[00:13] <AR45_> daftykins: the 7,1 MBP?
[00:14] <_unreal_> daftykins, well not realling cause I'm about to APP-itizer update
[00:14] <_unreal_> LOL
[00:14] <_unreal_> and install
[00:14] <daftykins> can you run that one by me again in English? :)
[00:14] <AR45_> Well looks like ubuntu can't fit on a CD.
[00:14] <daftykins> yeah could've told you that
[00:14] <AR45_> So I have to get debian I guess
[00:15] <_unreal_> AR45, thats what I was trying to say
[00:15] <_unreal_> there is no CD version of ubuntu that I know of any more. seek a build for MAC your MAC
[00:15] <daftykins> there's mini.iso, but i still fail to see why you think you need different media to boot in BIOS (legacy) mode?
[00:15] <AR45_> _unreal_: I don't think there is one on the wifi
[00:16] <_unreal_> AR45, do you NOT have a dvd drive?
[00:16] <AR45_> daftykins: well man can you just tell me how to install it in bios mode rather
[00:16] <_unreal_> ok feeding time
[00:16] <AR45_> _unreal_: omg I don't have any dvds atm, just one blansk cd and I NEED this to work!
[00:16] <_unreal_> then your sol
[00:17] <_unreal_> S.O.L. get some blanks
[00:17] <daftykins> don't use that language in here, even in acronym form thanks
[00:18] <daftykins> AR45_: you should be using refind to call booting in BIOS mode apparently
[00:23] <ashley01> im back
[00:23] <OverCoder> My Computer is pretty slow all because of a high CPU usage, my CPU is Core2Duo, I'm running Eclipse IDE and chrome and that's all, can those make my PC that sluggish or something is wrong?
[00:23] <OverCoder> i don't mean it's unusable but slow
[00:23] <daftykins> OverCoder: RAM? ubuntu version? unity?
[00:24] <OverCoder> 2GB, 14.04, not unity
[00:24] <pbx> OverCoder, what does System Monitory tell you?
[00:24] <OverCoder> sec
[00:25] <OverCoder> there's around 30% static CPU usage
[00:25] <OverCoder> on both cores
[00:25] <daftykins> coming from what?
[00:26] <somsip> OverCoder: Eclipse/Java is pretty heavy on load
[00:26] <OverCoder> daftykins, in the processes tab, nothing is using the CPU
[00:26] <pbx> flash ads in web pages also can add up if you have lots of tabs/windows
[00:26] <OverCoder> but in reality it's is being used
[00:26] <OverCoder> pbx, i haven't think of this
[00:26] <pbx> OverCoder, you sorting by cpu there?
[00:26] <daftykins> OverCoder: so, the answers to what i asked earlier?
[00:27] <OverCoder> pbx, yes
[00:27] <pbx> OverCoder, also, the View button in the upper right is set to all processes?
[00:27] <OverCoder> oh, no
[00:27] <OverCoder> i was looking for something like this
[00:27] <OverCoder> gnome-monitor seem to use 15% CPU ._.
[00:28] <OverCoder> I've closed chromium, the CPU load now 10%, it's OK now
[00:28] <OverCoder> but, i don't have flash player working on chrome
[00:28] <AR45_> daftykins: Hm I installed refind.
[00:28] <OverCoder> anyway, Thank you everyone for your support, i really appreciate it
[00:29] <daftykins> AR45_: and...?
[00:30] <_unreal_> OverCoder, what browser are you using?
[00:30] <daftykins> "i've closed chromium"
[00:30] <AR45_> daftykins: do I have to configure it to do a bios boot?
[00:30] <daftykins> AR45_: yeah
[00:30] <AR45_> daftykins: hm how?
[00:31] <daftykins> AR45_: you've been shown the guide about telling the difference between when ubuntu is booting in EFI mode vs legacy yes?
[00:31] <_unreal_> daftykins, that was NOT the answer I was looking for from OverCoder hehe
[00:31] <AR45_> daftykins: no :(
[00:32] <daftykins> !uefi | AR45_
[00:32] <daftykins> AR45_: at this point it sounds like you've not researched any of these things, go check it out
[00:32] <daftykins> _unreal_: i think it was :P
[00:33] <OverCoder> _unreal_, sorry i didn't notice, i use chromium
[00:34] <_unreal_> heh
[00:34] <_unreal_> brb checking on the child.
[00:35] <tortib> hello why is bash on ubuntu still vulnerable to CVE-2014-6277 ?
[00:35] <tortib> I have tried to update bash to the latest package and it says it's the latest but it's still vulnerable.
[00:35] <daftykins> !usu
[00:35] <daftykins> hmm
[00:35] <AR45_> daftykins: UEFI has nada to do with me o_o
[00:36] <AR45_> daftykins: EFI :D
[00:36] <daftykins> AR45_: you realise they're the same.
[00:36] <AR45_> daftykins: Isn't EFI Mac/UEFI PC>
[00:37] <tortib> hello why is bash on ubuntu still vulnerable to CVE-2014-6277 ?
[00:37] <tortib> I have tried to update bash to the latest package and it says it's the latest but it's still vulnerable.
[00:37] <daftykins> tortib: please stop repeating yourself
[00:37] <daftykins> !patience | tortib
[00:37] <Eii> hola
[00:38] <daftykins> tortib: you can ask if it's actually been fixed with the #bash people and also confirm if it has via the ubuntu security advisory pages first
[00:38] <daftykins> AR45_: no.
[00:38] <Eii> ododod
[00:38] <Eii> rny
[00:38] <tortib> daftykins: there are a lot of people that leave and join the channel how will I get my question answered if the new people don't see it?
[00:39] <tortib> daftykins: oh didn't see what you said.
[00:39] <daftykins> tortib: you can repeat but only at sane intervals
[00:39] <tortib> daftykins: I'm using the shell script from shellshocker.net
[00:39] <tortib> and it says vulnerable
[00:39] <daftykins> what version are you running?
[00:39] <tortib> 4.3.11
[00:39] <daftykins> no, version of ubuntu
[00:40] <tortib> 14.04 LTS
[00:41] <squinty> tortib: apt-cache policy bash   to see installed version
[00:41] <tortib> 4.3.7
[00:42] <tortib> 4.3-7ubuntu1.4
[00:42] <daftykins> that appears to be current
[00:43] <daftykins> tortib: please see the notes section here - http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-6277.html
[00:44] <reisio> probably more "allows for the potential for"
[00:44] <daftykins> can you make your point in a complete sentence? :)
[00:45] <daftykins> oh substituting the 'which allows remote attackers', ok
[00:45] <reisio> guess
[00:47] <cooldman224> silly question, but what accounts are the ones listed at the top right when you click the settings button? they aren't users...
[00:48] <AR45_> daftykins: I think this just might work you GENIUS!
[00:49] <daftykins> AR45_: it's not genius, it's reading a couple of things - i don't even own a mac.
[00:50] <AR45_> daftykins: you make my nipples hard
[00:50] <daftykins> AR45_: inappropriate.
[00:51] <LinusTourvaldsII> whoah
[00:52] <squinty> cooldman224:  they are for setting up integration with your online accounts, like facebook or twitter etc.  not sure of all the details pertaining to them as I am not a facebooker or twitter (though I probably am a "twit")   :P
[00:52] <tortib> daftykins: it isn't fixed yet?
[00:52] <rypervenche> tortib: Not fixed, but it's been patched to be non-exploitable.
[00:52] <daftykins> tortib: i'm not going to research for you :)
[00:52] <squinty> tortib:  you get a seg fault when running that script?
[00:52] <tortib> rypervenche: ah, that works
[00:52] <tortib> squinty: yeah I do
[00:52] <cooldman224> squinty: thanks! how do i get rid of them?
[00:53] <tortib> so that means I'm not at risk?
[00:53] <tortib> because I run CGI and apache.. :(
[00:53] <rypervenche> tortib: bash <(curl -sS https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hannob/bashcheck/master/bashcheck)
[00:54] <tortib> rypervenche: what?
[00:54] <rypervenche> tortib: Run that whole thing from your terminal.
[00:54] <Ben64> i'd recommend not running random stuff
[00:54] <rypervenche> Well, read the code first then run it.
[00:55] <rypervenche> It's a simple bash script.
[00:55] <tortib> rypervenche: ah ty sir (or madam)
[00:55] <droolendug2> Straya!
[01:13] <RudyValencia> Hi, what is the recommended method for mounting SMB (Windows) fileshares on a semi-permanent basis?
[01:13] <NegativeFlare> RudyValencia: I've always used Gigolo
[01:13] <RudyValencia> ah
[01:14] <reisio> RudyValencia: 'mount' with cifs
[01:14] <RudyValencia> CIFS filesystem mounts in fstab?
[01:15] <reisio> works with 'mount' like anything
[01:15] <reisio> and optionally fstab, like anything
[01:34] <smart_developer> Are there companies out there that provide *only* cloud storage,
[01:34] <smart_developer> and not any other cloud services ?
[01:34] <smart_developer> For example, you would see that Amazon has cloud storage data centers, but also offers a variety of other cloud services as well.
[01:35] <smart_developer> But are there some companies (small,medium, or large), that focus only on offering/providing cloud data storage ?
[01:35] <smart_developer> (And if there are, then are those companies mainly offering main persistent storage, or backup+archive storage) ?
[01:37] <pzkpfw> who just rents their data servers out?
[01:39] <smart_developer> pzkpfw : Are you saying that nobody does ?
[01:39] <pzkpfw> No, I'm not.
[01:39] <pzkpfw> I don't know.
[01:39] <NegativeFlare> Dropbox offers JUST cloud storage.
[01:39] <pzkpfw> as a company?
[01:39] <NegativeFlare> They have business options. And as as far as I know, yes.
[01:39] <pzkpfw> I know Rackspace does services, MS, Amazon, Ubuntu
[01:39] <pzkpfw> Canonical*
[01:40] <pzkpfw> I don't know a lot about cloud services
[01:40] <smart_developer> NegativeFlare : Does dropbox actually have their own data centers, though ?
[01:40] <pzkpfw> Does google do cloud services or just Drive?
[01:40] <smart_developer> Because I heard that they may be using Amazon's cloud storage services, to power their own Dropbox service.
[01:40] <NegativeFlare> smart_developer: I'm not really sure, all I know is, all they do is cloud storage.
[01:40] <hmd> I don't think there's any
[01:40] <pzkpfw> some of the tor ones, maybe
[01:40] <pzkpfw> if there are any left
[01:41] <smart_developer> So, it doesn't make sense from a business perspective for a cloud company to revolve around *just* storing other companies' data ?
[01:42] <smart_developer> And not much else ?
[01:42] <smart_developer> with it
[01:42] <hdtune2k> hi
[01:43] <NegativeFlare> smart_developer: First, I don't think this is on topic to a "help" channel, but honestly like I said before. I'm pretty sure that's all Dropbox does. Is just host people's data.
[01:44] <hdtune2k> Are there any graphical C developing software on GNOME?
[01:44] <hdtune2k> I need one on my class
[01:44] <NegativeFlare> hdtune2k: Such an as IDE? If so, there are tons.
[01:45] <NegativeFlare> I have a few favorites: Emacs, and Eclipse
[01:46] <hdtune2k> Eclipse?
[01:46] <hdtune2k> I have it
[01:46] <hdtune2k> How can I configure the C developing envirmonment
[01:46] <NegativeFlare> You can install the C/C++ environment
[01:46] <hdtune2k> gcc?
[01:46] <hdtune2k> apt-get install gcc g++?
[01:46] <NegativeFlare> Well, it uses GCC/G++
[01:47] <hdtune2k> then I can create a new C form
[01:47] <hdtune2k> It will try that
[01:47] <NegativeFlare> hdtune2k: https://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/howto/EclipseCpp_HowTo.html
[01:47] <hdtune2k> Thank @NegativeFlare
[01:47] <NegativeFlare> No problem
[01:48] <hdtune2k> thanks
[01:48] <NegativeFlare> hdtune2k: if it complains that it can't find GCC/G++
[01:48] <NegativeFlare> just install the build-essential package via apt-get
[01:52] <bynarie> does anyone know if when you compile/build a program in lazarus(free pascal), will that program run on a standard ubuntu, without any special runtimes?
[01:53] <bynarie> or does it require some type of pascal runtimes?
[01:53] <hdtune2k> sorry i didnt know that
[01:53] <axisys> how to increase the sound on ubuntu? volume is maxed already on the volume icon
[01:54] <NegativeFlare> axisys: pavucontrol
[01:54] <NegativeFlare> run it in the terminal ;)
[01:54] <hdtune2k> pavucontrol?
[01:54] <hdtune2k> what could it done?
[01:55] <NegativeFlare> Its Pulseaudio's sound control program
[01:55] <NegativeFlare> It lets you turn the volume over 100%
[01:55] <hdtune2k> Counld it damage the computer?
[01:55] <NegativeFlare> no
[01:55] <NegativeFlare> might blow your speakers
[01:55] <NegativeFlare> that's about it
[01:55] <hdtune2k> alright
[01:55] <axisys> cool.. installed and I see the option now
[01:55] <hdtune2k> ...
[01:55] <hdtune2k> Coool
[02:00] <guest1177a> Need help : I have the bcm4311 (rev 01) wireless card, I followed the intstructions at : http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers    but not working. The instruction at that link seems to amount to doing sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree     which I did.  When I do sudo rfkill list there is no output (nothing shows up) and when I do sudo ifconfig there is not entry for wlan at all.  This thin
[02:00] <guest1177a> g with rfkill and ifconfig is the same as before installing linux-firmware-nonfree    (there has been no change). My laptop is an hp pavillion dv6000 from 2007
[02:01] <guest1177a> Oh, also, I expected to see an entry in the drop down network list that says "enable wireless" but there is no entry at all (not just unchecked, it does not exist).
[02:02] <daftykins> !broadcom | guest1177a
[02:02] <daftykins> seen that one?
[02:03] <AR45_> How do I find a process and kill it VIA terminal?
[02:03] <hdtune2k> killall
[02:04] <daftykins> ps -ef
[02:04] <daftykins> kill #PID_number_goes_here
[02:05] <guest1177a> daftykins, Thank you. I had not. Looks like there's something else I can try. But, does that sound normal for rfkill list to not show anything?
[02:05] <daftykins> not sure, i would check what interfaces exist with "ifconfig -a"
[02:05] <guest1177a> I'll try that
[02:05] <daftykins> network-manager definitely needs a restart i would've thought, after you do what you do
[02:07] <guest1177a> daftykins, again, there is nothing listed for wlan (wlan0 or whatever) - only for etho and lo
[02:07] <daftykins> is eth0 definitely your wired LAN and not a wifi interface?
[02:07] <guest1177a> this seems alarming to me and makes me worry that no amount of wireless driver installation will help
[02:08] <guest1177a> how could I tell? (I do have an nethernet cable pluigged nito that lappy right now)
[02:08] <guest1177a> into
[02:08] <daftykins> guest1177a: well, it'd have an IP address likely if you're actively using it to be online :)
[02:10] <guest1177a> daftykins, yes it's the ethernet. unpluggin the cable and running sudo ifconfig -a and inet addr dissapears. Plug in again and run the command and I'm assigned an ip (it shows up)
[02:11] <guest1177a> no, it seems my hardware (wireless card) is not recognized as even existing (exceps with lspci)
[02:12] <deadevilboy> hello ppl
[02:12] <guest1177a> I thought rfkill list was supposed to recognize the hardware no matter what state it's in
[02:12] <daftykins> guest1177a: have you at any point run "rfkill listall" ?
[02:12] <deadevilboy> I have a question... probably it's easy.. but I can't put it working
[02:13] <guest1177a> I'll try tha
[02:13] <guest1177a> that
[02:13] <daftykins> sorry i think it's "rfkill list all"
[02:13] <guest1177a> daftykins, seems there is no listall flag
[02:13] <guest1177a> I get the help menu
[02:14] <deadevilboy> imagine this: my laptop is wired (eth0) to a switch/LAN. And also has a wlan0 connection to another router in a differente subnet. How can I allow one pc from the wired connection to connect to my lan (via my laptop) ?
[02:14] <deadevilboy> I mean.. to connect to my wlan
[02:14] <guest1177a> daftykins, sudo rfkill list all goes through but no output (same result as using the list flag)
[02:15] <daftykins> deadevilboy: they need to receive the information that your PC is the default gateway for that subnet - and also you must have IP forwarding enabled
[02:15] <daftykins> guest1177a: hrmm, sounds like a driver module isn't loaded to me
[02:15] <deadevilboy> hmmm... and I have to have both wlan and eth up right?
[02:16] <guest1177a> daftykins, well that's where my knowlege hits it's limit  :s
[02:16] <daftykins> deadevilboy: they should be up and be configured with IPs already
[02:16] <daftykins> guest1177a: looks to me like the package you installed isn't right for your model card
[02:17] <daftykins> guest1177a: just to confirm, lspci definitely shows the broadcom 4311?
[02:17] <deadevilboy> daftykins: so on eth0 my ip is 10.25.166.11 (Example) and wlan0 192.168.1.100. I must say to pc1 in 10.25.166.1/24 that I am the gateway.. is that it?
[02:18] <guest1177a> daftykins, so I'm guessing that thing for me to do is systematically install/remove each of the options that apply to my specific card and pray one of them works?
[02:18] <daftykins> deadevilboy: specifically, that you are the gateway for 192.168.1.x/24 yes
[02:18] <deadevilboy> daftykins: and the only thing I have to do in the laptop is sysctls net.ipv4. bla bla bla = 1?
[02:18] <daftykins> guest1177a: yep, i would!
[02:18] <guest1177a> thx
[02:18] <daftykins> deadevilboy: if it isn't already 1, yes
[02:21] <daftykins> deadevilboy: by that i mean the output of the variable under /proc
[02:21] <daftykins> "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[02:22] <deadevilboy> daftykins: u mean sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 ?
[02:23] <daftykins> the above is to confirm it, not set it
[02:23] <deadevilboy> so no need to ipfwd?
[02:24] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:26] <chachacha> Hi guys. Does anybody know if it's safe to downgrade python from 3.4 to 3.3 in Ubuntu 14.04?
[02:26] <chachacha> (without using virtualenv)
[02:26] <reisio> chachacha: what for
[02:27] <chachacha> py3.4 shipped with a broken package, pyvenv
[02:27] <chachacha> (mostly due to a missing package, ensurepip)
[02:28] <chachacha> I want to use the box for making a Flask app with python 3
[02:28] <chachacha> But I wanted to setup virtualenv without sudo
[02:29] <RudyValencia> OK I can't get my xubuntu box to integrate with Active Directory using PBIS Open, any other way I can have AD authentication?
[02:32] <rypervenche> RudyValencia: LDAP
[02:35] <RudyValencia> How do you use LDAP with Active Directory anyway?
[02:35] <rww> Active Directory provides an LDAP server out of the box...
[02:36] <RudyValencia> oh
[02:36] <RudyValencia> I didn't know it was an LDAP service
[02:37] <RudyValencia> is there a direction page or something I can use to research setting it up that way?
[02:37] <CaffeineAddict> I have 2 vps running ubuntu.  I have one that is working and the one that I am migrating to.  The first one has 3 upstart scripts that are running node.js server
[02:37] <c_nick> Guys, whats the best example of CRM ?
[02:38] <CaffeineAddict> on the first server they work fine, on the second server it is complaining about `stop: Unknown instance:`
[02:38] <Capprentice> c_nick, Search in sourceforge.com :)
[02:38] <CaffeineAddict> on the second server there doesnt seem to be a /var/log file for the given upstart scripts
[02:39] <Moonlightning> Installing Ubuntu server…should I select English for the locale, or C?
[02:39] <Moonlightning> I know some of OS X's things behave weirdly outside of the C locale…
[02:39] <rww> English
[02:40] <Moonlightning> Like `tr` complains about invalid byte patterns if you give it arbitrary data. I think it assumes everything is UTF-8. :|
[02:40] <reisio> Moonlightning: I'm sure the default is good :p
[02:42] <guest1177a> anyone - would removing bcmwl-kernel-source     cause any harm?
[02:43] <guest1177a> I need a better understanding of the process for exchanging drivers
[02:44] <guest1177a> joseph mills around? how to ping someone?
[02:50] <guest1177a> where can I get help. I'm a homeless guy using borrowed internet to try get this thing working (yeah, really)
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | guest1177a
[02:51] <guest1177a> this thing is outside my ability to really comprehend.
[02:52] <guest1177a> I have that link and severall others. Am I the only one who sees how convoluted this issue is with ubuntu?
[02:52] <guest1177a> with linux in general I guess
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> guest1177a: lets stay simple, whats your end goal exactly?
[02:53] <daftykins> don't get broadcom is the answer
[02:53] <guest1177a> lotuspsychje, to connect my laptop to the internet wirelessly
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> guest1177a: for that you will need a working wifi driver yes
[02:53] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: bcm4311, interface isn't showing up for the device, so driver issue
[02:54] <daftykins> i have to sleep, good luck
[02:54] <guest1177a> yes
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> guest1177a: did you check your additional drivers section?
[02:54] <MarkChang> Ubuntu 14.04 64bit with gcin 2.8.2, but gcin usually crash onec or twice a day. Does anyone has suggestion?
[02:56] <guest1177a> rfkill list all shows no output, additional drivers shows only video drivers in the list, ifconfig shows no wireless interface at all, lspci -k shows wl driver in use, the dropdown list for networking on the desktop has no entry at all like "enable wireless"
[02:57] <guest1177a> and, what I'm seeing in some web pages reveals more stuff to do than in others (for instance, blacklisting things and removing other drivers before trying a different one)
[02:57] <c_nick> Capprentice: lol dont want a software implementation.. just wanna know if u guys came across something really worthy.. need to make a presentation on current crm implementation in the companies and how we can further improve it :)
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> guest1177a: did you install ubuntu with cable + updates during setup?
[02:58] <guest1177a> lotuspsychje, yes. I ticked the boxes for non-free stuff and for installing updates during the install
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> guest1177a: can you pastebin lshw -C network for me
[02:59] <guest1177a> bc of the lappy model I have I had to use boot option for no acpi or I would have no input (no keyboard or mouse working) to even do the install. So I used that boot option (and nodmraid) when doing the install
[03:00] <guest1177a> lotuspsychje, err...  can you remind me the command to send to pastebin from the command line please?
[03:01] <guest1177a> is it patebinit | /path/to/whatever
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> guest1177a: you dont hace gui? ubuntu pastebin?
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> have
[03:03] <guest1177a> lotuspsychje, yes I have gui. lshw -C network    output is strange    (no new command line given - it's as if the output is changing with time)
[03:04] <squinty> guest1177a:  fwiw  sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[03:04] <guest1177a> thx
[03:08] <guest1177a> lotuspsychje, output is strange - I have to use interrupt to stop output (ctrl+alt+c) - and it seems only 2 lines are output anyway. One flashes by to fast to see and the other is "PCI (sysfs)"
[03:08] <guest1177a> my bad I was impatient - one momemt for the link
[03:10] <guest1177a> lotuspsychje, sorry man  -->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8518476/
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> guest1177a: ok driver loaded for your BCM4311 is wl and you dont see the wifi icon?
[03:11] <guest1177a> lotuspsychje, what wifi icon?
[03:13] <guest1177a> the only thing to do with networnking on the desktop toolbar looks like two arrows one pointing up and the other pointing down
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | guest1177a check this site wich driver you can install for BCM4311
[03:14] <CarlFK> apt-get install usbmount .. installed.  plug in usb drive, mount shows /dev/sdg1 on /media/usb0 type ext4 (rw,noexec,nodev,sync,noatime,nodiratime) - how do I change noexec to exec?  (ideally permanently, not just remounting this time)
[03:15] <guest1177a> that's what I was going off of when I came here. I notice that it doesn't show anything about the specifics I see in other places and that concerns me (since my expertixe w/ linux is limited)
[03:15] <AR45_> Woot!
[03:16] <AR45_> Ubuntu on my Mac.
[03:16] <AR45_> Finally.
[03:16] <reisio> wewtpie
[03:17] <AR45_> dokuhebi: reisio Techguy305
[03:17] <reisio> AR45_: that's me
[03:17] <guest1177a> specifics as in - some other pages/links show blacklisting things, some show removing the existing driver before trying a different one, one even shows purging linux-kernel-source     but what am I supposed to do, try to synthesise the information from several places on my own, w/ my limited knowledge, and hope I don't break shit?
[03:18] <AR45_> reisio: Now.. Time to figure out how to remove all the software on ubuntu!
[03:18] <AR45_> reisio: all the bloatware and crap I don't need :D
[03:18] <reisio> :p
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> bloatware on ubuntu?
[03:19] <AR45_> lotuspsychje: yes gnome being the first one lol
[03:20] <somsip> AR45_: install from minimal and build it up from there instead of installing unity desktop version. Maybe one for another day now :-)
[03:20] <AR45_> somsip: I was afraid that if I did so. It wouldn't be compatible on my MBP
[03:21] <somsip> AR45_: I understand. I've seen you working on this for a while. There are (old) guides on pyschocats.net about removing packages from installed systems, so they might help you. Eg search 'pyschocats remove'
[03:22] <reisio> !ops finitoo pr0nspam
[03:22] <reisio> no danger there
[03:25] <AR45_> somsip: Thanks a lot!
[03:26] <somsip> AR45_: ymmv - it depends what you want to achieve, and the guides are a bit old now. They *seem* to have a good reputation though
[03:28] <AR45_> somsip: I want a fast/stable setup for web dev. I want to try minimal cd.. would it install the requirements for ubuntu + lxde for me (that's litterally all I need) the rest I'll add
[03:28] <somsip> AR45_: Sounds fair to me. I use minimal for webdev with a different WM.
[03:29] <AR45_> somsip: which WM?
[03:29] <AR45_> somsip: openbox?
[03:30] <somsip> AR45_: awesomwm - tiling WM. lots of indenpendent screens with full screen windows instead of lots of windows on one screen. Very keyboard-shortcut orientated. Individual choice and all that.
[03:30] <somsip> *awesomewm
[03:31] <AR45_> somsip: ah many screen huh, would be perfect for my laptop
[03:31] <AR45_> somsip: well looks like I have a new project :D
[03:32] <reisio> eh, well
[03:32] <reisio> the point is it manages window position for you
[03:32] <reisio> so you don't waste time fiddling with a mouse
[03:32] <AR45_> reisio: yes I know what it is I used i3.
[03:32] <reisio> LIES!
[03:32] <reisio> it has an "awesome" name, though :p
[03:32] <somsip> AR45_: worth a look, as are other tiling WMs. I find it easy to have firefox/irssi on a screen, vi on another, mutt on another, etc...
[03:33] <AR45_> somsip: yes ofc I completely see why it's fit.
[03:33] <somsip> reisio: after 2 years on it, I still reach for the mouse. My fault though, not awesome's
[03:33] <AR45_> i3 is better
[03:33] <reisio> some things use a mouse
[03:33] <somsip> reisio: me
[03:34] <reisio> you and drawing apps
[03:35] <somsip> reisio: sure - there are plenty of examples. I dislike graphics apps almost as much as trying to get a decent freelancer who can do small graphics jobs for me. But OT...
[03:35] <reisio> :p
[03:35] <AR45_> somsip: nodejs user?
[03:36] <somsip> AR45_: fiddled a bit, but no real experience. PHP-based stuff mostly.
[03:36] <AR45_> somsip: do you know cpagrip.com
[03:37] <somsip> AR45_: just looked at it. Not for me
[03:37] <jj995> what is the harm in always using --no-install-recommends with apt-get install?
[03:37] <AR45_> somsip: ok
[03:39] <jj995> I guess I shouldn't worry too much about pulling in a few extra packages
[03:41] <nahtnam> Would you say heat bleed and shell shock are a bug or a virus?
[03:42] <reisio> viruses are called viruses because they replicate
[03:42] <rypervenche> nahtnam: Bug or exploit.
[03:42] <rypervenche> Or vulnerability.
[03:42] <reisio> any defect counts as a bug
[03:45] <AR45_> somsip: let's see what this is about
[03:47] <guest1177a> ok, I managed to get something to work but now I don't know what to do from here -->  http://pastebin.com/LGKb0iUq
[03:49] <sridharanu> Hi
[03:50] <reisio> ohio
[03:50] <sridharanu> I need to apply bash fix on Ubuntu 11.04 . How can I update bash to fix shelllock issue
[03:50] <xangua> sridharanu: upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[03:52] <sridharanu> I dont have internet connected to that server . Can I download package from somewhere manually ans install on my server ?
[03:53] <reisio> yeah, but it's not much fun
[03:55] <sridharanu> do you have  any link to download latest bash for 11.04 ?
[03:56] <nahtnam> rypervenche: and reisio Thanks. I got into a big argument with my dad (quite frankly he is an asshole), and he keeps on insisting that is a virus. Even when you look up "shellshock virus", the first four link say bug. Anyways, thanks!
[03:57] <somsip> nahtnam: the exploit can be used to download virus-like code to a computer, but on it's own it is a bug that can be exploited.
[03:57] <reisio> nahtnam: well, increasing vocabulary has always been hard for the ignorant masses
[03:57] <nahtnam> somsip: Yep. Thanks :)
[03:57] <somsip> nahtnam: move on. One day you'll move out :)
[03:57] <reisio> 'cloud', 'virus', etc.
[03:57] <reisio> 'linux'
[03:57] <nahtnam> Yeah. On Firday, it will be exactly 2 years.
[03:57] <nahtnam> *Friday
[03:58] <somsip> nahtnam: One day you'll move on then.
[03:58] <reisio> there's not really any comparison, anyways
[03:58] <reisio> in Unixland we find exploits ('cause we can, we can view the code) long before they're acted upon, and fix them, and sit back
[03:58] <Svetlana> Thought a virus would have the ability to spread and infect previously uninfected systems, which bugs don't.
[03:58] <reisio> in non-Unixland, it's mostly just the freaking out part
[03:58] <reisio> there hasn't been a good virus in ages, for any OS
[03:59] <reisio> but that also speaks to the relative irrelevance of whether badware replicates or not
[03:59] <Svetlana> On a related note, I think some OS has "malicious software removal tool" kind of updates, which check for some known viruses and exploits and remove them. Is this something Ubuntu (or other GNU/Linux, or the kernel itself) has? I haven't seen it.
[04:00] <sridharanu> Hi , Please help me to get bash package for ubuntu 11.04 to fix shellshock . Thank you.
[04:00] <nahtnam> reisio: Are there any viruses for Ubuntu? I hear people saying that there are none
[04:00] <nahtnam> but I dont think thats true
[04:01] <Svetlana> They exist as exploits, they do not need to spread I think. As two Ubuntu users exchanging a file happens less often than an exploit reaching another dozen of loosely updated boxes.
[04:02] <Svetlana> Occasionally they're called 'rootkits'.
[04:02] <Svetlana> Which is perhaps a Windows world term, I dunno.
[04:02] <reisio> nahtnam: there are actually viruses, yes, but of the... six (?) or so of them, they tend to be proof-of-concepts for already-at-the-time-out-of-date versions
[04:02] <guest1177a> anyone can help w/ a wireless issue?
[04:03] <JaneDoe> anyone there?
[04:03] <nahtnam> reisio: Awesome, so nothing that really is in use
[04:03] <guest1177a>  I managed to get something to work but now I don't know what to do from here -->  http://pastebin.com/LGKb0iUq
[04:03] <reisio> nahtnam: not at present, nope
[04:03] <Svetlana> sridharanu: Install latest bash: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install bash". I'm not 100% sure but that's what I did. (And tell what version you've got after that). Desktop users would be not concerned to my understanding, as the exploit mainly targets webservers to my knowledge.
[04:03] <JaneDoe> Can anyone help me :?
[04:03] <reisio> nahtnam: it's more work to make badware for Unix systems, because more people are more openly working against it
[04:03] <Svetlana> JaneDoe: No. I see no question to help with, how can I help?
[04:03] <Svetlana> JaneDoe: Ask.
[04:04] <nahtnam> reisio: Yep!
[04:05] <sridharanu> Svetlana : Yes We are using server . But no internet access to our server . So unable to run apt-get . Please help me to get the package to install manually . Thank you.
[04:05] <Svetlana> What access to the server have you got?
[04:06] <sridharanu> i have root access using sudo
[04:06] <Svetlana> (How do you install updates on it without the Internet? Updates are important for security.)
[04:06] <bisu> #linuxmint
[04:06] <reisio> of course, security issues are diminished if you aren't networked
[04:06] <reisio> you can't really protect against physical access anyways :)
[04:07] <pzkpfw> updates can always be installed other ways
[04:07] <pzkpfw> than a direct network connection
[04:07] <pzkpfw> but anyway...
[04:07] <reisio> yeah, relaxation time :)
[04:07] <JaneDoe> Does anyone know how to create a bootable osx usb on ubuntu?
[04:07]  * reisio rolls eyes
[04:07] <sridharanu> can't we upate bash package manually ?
[04:08] <guest1177a> I tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 up     but the output is "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy"
[04:08] <sridharanu> by downloading from another server and copying to the affected server for bash upgrade ? Plese help :(
[04:08] <JaneDoe> Svetlana
[04:08] <somsip> sridharanu: new packages are not built (officially) for unsupported versions. So you either find an unofficial source, or you build it yourself from source.
[04:09] <Svetlana> JaneDoe: Hello.  What's up? :-)
[04:09] <max> a
[04:09] <somsip> sridharanu: sorry - not clear. You either find somewhere that has built an unofficial package, or you build the package from source code
[04:09] <xangua> sridharanu: should you be more concern about using a distro that hasn't been supported for more than a year and posible have more vulnerabilities than bash?
[04:09] <xangua> 2 years actually
[04:09] <Svetlana> JaneDoe: Oh, that, no I don't know. Unetbooting might be relevant, but I don't know where to get osx from or in what format...
[04:09] <sridharanu> ok .. what are the current supported versions of ubuntu ?
[04:09] <somsip> !topic | sridharanu
[04:10] <JaneDoe> Svetlana: I installed ubuntu on my mac and I fucked up the osx volume :/
[04:10] <JaneDoe> and Internet restore isn't working
[04:10] <Svetlana> sridharanu: Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, and 14.04 LTS
[04:10] <Svetlana> JaneDoe: :-( Wait. Give others time to see your question. I don't know how they release it. (There is ##mac and #macosx)
[04:12] <JaneDoe> Thanks
[04:12] <sridharanu> Svetlana : Thank you. is it easy to upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 without disturbing exisiting configurations ?
[04:12] <somsip> !eolupgrade | sridharanu
[04:12] <SchrodingersScat> !language | JaneDoe
[04:13] <JaneDoe> :?
[04:13] <sridharanu> ubottu : thank you . i will check these links and come back for any questions.
[04:14] <sridharanu> Thanks to all . who answered my questions . I will come back soon :)
[04:15] <guest1177a> Turns out there is a "Wireless light" on this computer. According to the manufacturer's manual, Blue means wireless card is turned on Amber means it's turned off  --  mine is flashing blue/amber
[04:22] <OoTLink> does an ATA bus error generally mean your hard drive is hosed?
[04:24] <guest1177a> Is there a way to remove what was installed with "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installe"
[04:24] <guest1177a> ?
[04:25] <kastelo> sudo apt-get remove
[04:25] <guest1177a> because it is an installer I'm not sure if sudo apt-get purge firmware-b43-installer would do
[04:26] <kastelo> it's depend what do you want
[04:27] <kastelo> purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and
[04:27] <kastelo>            purged (any configuration files are deleted too).
[04:27] <guest1177a> going through hell w/ my broadcom bcm4311 wireless card in the worst dam lappy for linux ever made.
[04:27] <guest1177a> thought I made progress but not so sure now
[04:28] <NFGBro> When I run a program from the terminal, is there a way of hiding that process, or at least that terminal? So that it's like I opened it from the menu?
[04:28] <guest1177a> kastelo, would I only be removing the installer then (and not the driver) or would it remove the driver? How could I be sure?
[04:29] <birdgg_> add & at the end?
[04:29] <somsip> guest1177a: -s for a dry-run will just tell you what it will do
[04:30] <somsip> !behelpful | birdgg_
[04:30] <celroc> NFGBro: There are a few different ways to do it.  One way would be through the program screen (sudo apt-get install screen to get it).  And then put 'screen -d -m' before your command.  So, for firefox, for example, you could do "screen -d -m firefox"
[04:31] <guest1177a> someone, thx
[04:31] <somsip> birdgg_: apoligies - I realised you were replying to NFGBro not guest1177a
[04:31] <NFGBro> celroc: Why is that better than what birdgg says?
[04:31] <kastelo> guest1177a, i think apt-get remove  do job for your needs
[04:32] <NFGBro> His way seems to be working fine
[04:33] <somsip> NFGBro: if the program has any output that will go to terminal, it will show in the terminal you started it in. This might not be what you want
[04:33] <guest1177a> the output from sudo apt-get purge -s firmware-b43-installer     seems pretty ambiguous to me     http://paste.ubuntu.com/8518746/
[04:33] <NFGBro> somsip: I see, thanks.
[04:34] <celroc> NFGBro: Ah, it actually depends more on what you need to do.  Mine hides the terminal output (if any) and also will not kill the process if the terminal is accidentally closed
[04:34] <NFGBro> celroc: Thanks, that's great
[04:35] <guest1177a> an installer is just an installer right? and it installs something, ie: something else, a second thing - in this case, the driver in question. So if I remove the installer that says nothing of the driver right? or am I not understanding this correctly?
[04:37] <Uruk_Hai> hi
[04:39] <crazyhead42_> I can't seem to get my Ubuntu 13.04 server to work, and I'm not sure about it's network status - I've tried to update the system, but keep getting 404 errors. I've changed the location it is trying to get updates from, but I'm getting invalid signitures: "nodata 1" and "nodata 2".
[04:39] <crazyhead42_> I tried in #ubuntu-server , however no one else seems to be online.
[04:39] <xangua> maybe you should be using a supported release to start with crazyhead42
[04:39] <RudyValencia> Is it possible to make the borders a little bit easier to resize in Xubuntu?
[04:39] <crazyhead42_> I might have a 32 bit computer
[04:42] <crazyhead42> Is there a way to check the hardware from within the server?
[04:46] <crazyhead42> Oh, I seem to have 64 bit compatibility. Is there an easy way to change versions without running the install again?
[04:47] <ObrienDave> from 32 to 64 bit?
[04:47] <crazyhead42> I'm currently on a 32 bit, but I think this is telling me I can run a 64 bit
[04:48] <crazyhead42> Yes
[04:48] <ObrienDave> no, you must reinstall
[04:48] <crazyhead42> Is there a currently supported 32 bit system then?
[04:48] <MJCD>  @unopaste _19 _4ls __unik _andyj_ _GoRDoN_ _gypsy_ _KaszpiR_ _Marty _NiC _ruben _skule _sui _Trullo _unreal_ _|d0m|_ `Cam `Yoda aaa801 aaas aaearon aarontc aatwood aau abc1 aboudreault AceLan achernya Ackis Ad1 Ad1_RnR adan0s adante adeschamps AdmV0rl0n Adran Advocation aeil aem` Aerides aewing ahklerner Ahnberg ahoneybun airtonix AJ_Z0 aja042 akaWolf akiml_ akke akp akshay Akuma akurilin aladilas AlanBell alduin alex_19 alexandros_c alexbligh1 alienspy alilje
[04:48] <MJCD>  @unopaste _19 _4ls __unik _andyj_ _GoRDoN_ _gypsy_ _KaszpiR_ _Marty _NiC _ruben _skule _sui _Trullo _unreal_ _|d0m|_ `Cam `Yoda aaa801 aaas aaearon aarontc aatwood aau abc1 aboudreault AceLan achernya Ackis Ad1 Ad1_RnR adan0s adante adeschamps AdmV0rl0n Adran Advocation aeil aem` Aerides aewing ahklerner Ahnberg ahoneybun airtonix AJ_Z0 aja042 akaWolf akiml_ akke akp akshay Akuma akurilin aladilas AlanBell alduin alex_19 alexandros_c alexbligh1 alienspy alilje
[04:48] <MJCD>  @unopaste _19 _4ls __unik _andyj_ _GoRDoN_ _gypsy_ _KaszpiR_ _Marty _NiC _ruben _skule _sui _Trullo _unreal_ _|d0m|_ `Cam `Yoda aaa801 aaas aaearon aarontc aatwood aau abc1 aboudreault AceLan achernya Ackis Ad1 Ad1_RnR adan0s adante adeschamps AdmV0rl0n Adran Advocation aeil aem` Aerides aewing ahklerner Ahnberg ahoneybun airtonix AJ_Z0 aja042 akaWolf akiml_ akke akp akshay Akuma akurilin aladilas AlanBell alduin alex_19 alexandros_c alexbligh1 alienspy alilje
[04:48] <MJCD> ##illuminati
[04:49] <aaa801> twat
[04:49] <ObrienDave> crazyhead42, all current 32 bit 'buntus are supported here
[04:49] <__unik> unopaste: Can you please do so something with MJCD?
[04:51] <rww> they already left...
[04:53] <ObrienDave> unopaste is a bot
[04:54] <pzkpfw> is everyone already dead?
[04:55] <__unik> .unopaste help
[04:55] <__unik> .help
[04:55] <__unik> `help
[04:55] <rww> __unik: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:55] <__unik> ObrianDave: what's its feature
[04:55] <rww> __unik: none that you can invoke
[04:55] <__unik> rww: no, thanks for asking
[04:55] <rww> __unik: then leave the channel clear for support, thanks
[04:56] <__unik> rww: sorry. thanks for prompt.
[04:56] <ObrienDave> __unik, to prevent channel flooders
[04:56] <rww> "make life more difficult for", rather
[05:12] <slyrus_> so I've got a super jumpy scroll-wheel with my logitech g700 mouse on 14.04. it doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be rather annoying.
[05:13] <ObrienDave> define jumpy
[05:14] <slyrus_> scroll a little and then it keeps scrolling long after it should stop, or starts spontaneously scrolling my window
[05:14] <slyrus_> it's not all the time, but particularly after various keyboard events it seems to show up
[05:14] <slyrus_> driving me crazy...
[05:15] <ObrienDave> take it apart and clean the scroll wheel mechanism and button
[05:15] <slyrus_> oh? hardware error? never occurred to me... I suppose I have a new one here that I could try and see if that fixes the problem.
[05:15] <slyrus_> I just assumed it was a software problem.
[05:15] <ObrienDave> not error, just dirty
[05:18] <slyrus_> ok, halfway there... the new mouse doesn't exhibit the same behavior. now to fix the old one. thanks ObrienDave!
[05:19] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[05:20] <slyrus_> this reinforces my belief that there are some problems for which filing a bug first is not necessarily the right approach :)
[05:20] <ObrienDave> LOL point taken
[05:20] <slyrus_> of course, not being a hardware guy, I usually blame the software
[05:21] <ObrienDave> most do
[05:41] <eros> hey
[05:41] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[05:45] <sss> Ghhh
[05:45] <sss> Nhiiiiiiiii
[05:46] <sss> hiiiii
[05:46] <sss> hiii vurma
[06:13] <pzkpfw> Can ubuntu read exFAT usb storage?
[06:19] <luminous>  krb5-multidev : Depends: libkrb5-3 (= 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2) but 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3 is to be installed
[06:19] <luminous>                  Depends: libk5crypto3 (= 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2) but 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3 is to be installed
[06:19] <luminous>                  Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2 (= 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2) but 1.10+dfsg~beta1-2ubuntu0.3 is to be installed
[06:19] <luminous> why is this package borked on me?
[06:22] <allen> e
[06:22] <allen> anybody here?
[06:24] <squinty> pzkpfw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238314   maybe try his solution
[06:24] <pzkpfw> squinty thanks
[06:33] <CaffeineAddict> in /var/log I have folder named nginx its default permissions are `drwxr-x---  2 www-data adm       4096 Oct  7 15:41 nginx`
[06:33] <CaffeineAddict> using sudo I can not seem to cd into this folder
[06:34] <CaffeineAddict> what is the correct way of getting to the log files inhere ... im guessing chown 777 is the wrong way to go about it
[06:36] <somsip> CaffeineAddict: if you need to descend into it, sudo -i and then you will 'be' root and can navigate to it. Remember to 'exit' or CTRL-d when you are done
[06:37] <CaffeineAddict> well yah, I can sudo su too ... but do I really need to for access to a webserver log file when auth.log has lighter permissions?
[06:38] <CaffeineAddict> it seams like there should be a cleaner method of doing this
[06:38] <somsip> CaffeineAddict: add yourself to adm group
[06:39] <CaffeineAddict> did that ... didnt seem to have any effect
[06:39] <CaffeineAddict> which is also odd
[06:39] <somsip> CaffeineAddict: need to logout and back in after a group change
[06:39] <CaffeineAddict> ah
[06:39] <CaffeineAddict> ty
[06:39] <somsip> CaffeineAddict: groups will tell you what you belong to to check
[06:39] <CaffeineAddict> logging out and back in solved it
[06:39] <CaffeineAddict> thank you
[06:40] <somsip> np
[06:51] <helmut_> hi
[06:53] <sunil_> when i try to connect with mysql i got one error in script "Could not connect: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"  but in phpmyadmin i can conncet
[06:53] <sunil_> how to solve
[06:54] <zetheroo> my resolv.conf keeps getting a search entry put in after system reboot - but I need to get rid of it - how do I find out where it's coming from?
[06:55] <Jakob_> hello
[06:56] <Jakob_> I'm in need of some help with a squid3 server, i keep getting TCP_denied/403 3915 - standard squid3 configfile, can anyone help ? (:
[06:57] <somsip> sunil_: can you connect using the same user/pass using 'mysql -u {user} -p' ?
[07:02] <Jakob_> I'm in need of some help with a squid3 server, i keep getting TCP_denied/403 3915 - standard squid3 configfile, can anyone help (:
[07:02] <robinj> ok
[07:02] <robinj> just joined this channel to make sure i'm not crazy
[07:03] <somsip> robinj: not sure how to answer that one...
[07:03] <sunil_> somsip: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user '{root}'@'localhost' (using password: YES) i geiting this error
[07:03] <robinj> as long as this channel is alive and well then we ok
[07:03] <somsip> sunil_: then you have the wrong user/pass/grants
[07:03] <somsip> robinj: it is alive
[07:04] <somsip> sunil_: erm...don't put root in {} and try again...
[07:04] <sunil_> somsip: Thanks for your support sir , but I can connect via phpmyadming using same username and password !
[07:04] <robinj> can i give someone the login to my work server
[07:04] <robinj> i need help troubleshooting
[07:04] <somsip> sunil_: and do not call me 'sir'. I wont respond if you do
[07:05] <somsip> robinj: you will be lucky to get unpaid support like that in here. Ask questions, maybe get answers. That's all.
[07:05] <somsip> sunil_: do 'mysql -u root -p' and let us know the result
[07:05] <sunil_> somsip: Yes It is connected now :)
[07:06] <somsip> sunil_: using mysql -u root -p? then you have an error in your code. Paste using paste.ubuntu.com
[07:06] <robinj> well gg
[07:06] <Jakob_> robinj: what do you need help with?
[07:07] <deitario1> What's the procedure for reporting that my mobo's onboard audio causes certain apps to crackle intermittently unless I use tsched=0? I seem to remember reading that it indicates an ALSA driver bug.
[07:07] <somsip> !bugs | deitario1 (probably...)
[07:07] <sunil_> somsip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8519292/
[07:07] <somsip> laravel mysqldump to seed
[07:07] <somsip> oops
[07:08] <deitario1> Also, finitoo just PM-spammed me with a link and some text that looked like it was offering something for free in Spanish.
[07:08] <somsip> sunil_: 127.0.0.1 is not the same as localhost. Maybe root@127.0.0.1 does not exist
[07:08] <deitario1> I could be wrong on the language though. I didn't pay it much attention once I confirmed it was linkspam.
[07:09] <sunil_> somsip: I have already tried localhost in that script before , as a new comer in Linux I am not able to find out the issue
[07:11] <Jakob_> I'm in need of some help with a squid3 server, i keep getting TCP_denied/403 3915 - standard squid3 configfile, can anyone help (:
[07:13] <sunil_> somsip: how to setroot@127.0.0.1 ?
[07:13] <somsip> sunil_: in phpMyAdmin you can look at the Users tab and it should be in there as standard
[07:14] <somsip> sunil_: but I'm really not sure why that isn't working. If you connect with mysql -u -p, and the password is correct in the PHP script, it should work.
[07:15] <sunil_> somsip:  it is exist in php my admin
[07:15] <zetheroo> my resolv.conf keeps getting a search entry put in after system reboot - but I need to get rid of it - how do I find out where it's coming from?
[07:17] <sunil_> ok thank you all
[07:27] <Loshki> zetheroo: using DHCP? It's probably the dhclient-script. See also /etc/network/if-up.d/000resolvconf
[07:28] <zetheroo> Loshki: ok will look - yes DHCP
[07:34] <zetheroo> Loshki: not sure what needs changing here http://paste.ubuntu.com/8519363/
[07:37] <Thomashamka> Does anyone know if you can "DOCK" Ubuntu Touch RTM? (Full os convergence stuff), if not, will it come =)?
[07:37] <cfhowlett> !touch | Thomashamka,
[07:38] <Thomashamka> Sorry and thanks
[07:39] <Loshki> zetheroo: Exactly which search entry is it that keeps showing up?
[07:40] <zetheroo> meteotest.ch
[07:40] <zetheroo> it's an in-house one that is no longer being used
[07:41] <AR45_> How do I install KDE without all the bloatware?!
[07:41] <cfhowlett> AR45_, sudo apt-get install kde
[07:42] <AR45_> cfhowlett: plasma 5? :D
[07:42] <cfhowlett> AR45_, kde is the desktop environment.  the above command will install ONLY the DE , i.e. no "bloatware"
[07:43] <Loshki> zetheroo: have a little hunt thru /etc for the string meteotest.ch e.g. sudo find /etc -type -f | xargs egrep -i meteotest.ch
[07:44] <zetheroo> Loshki: find: Arguments to -type should contain only one letter
[07:45] <Loshki> zetheroo: have a little hunt thru /etc for the string meteotest.ch e.g. sudo find /etc -type f | xargs egrep -i meteotest.ch   <<<--- note change -f to f
[07:46] <AR45_> cfhowlett: package can't be located
[07:46] <zetheroo> Loshki: everything is "Permission denied"
[07:46] <zetheroo> should I do it as root?
[07:46] <somsip> zetheroo: sudo grep -nir 'meteotest; /etc
[07:47] <somsip> zetheroo: sudo grep -nir 'meteotest' /etc
[07:47] <Loshki> zetheroo: yes, or do what somsip suggests instead.
[07:47] <cfhowlett> AR45_, right.  sudo-apt install kde-plasma-desktop = barebones DE only
[07:48] <Petazz> Hi! So when developing I need to open a terminal with multiple tabs and I also need to cd in both of them and activate python virtualenv. Is that possible to do with a bash script?
[07:49] <somsip> !info screen | Petazz (also see tmux and byobu which are similar but more featured)
[07:49] <zetheroo> 2 hits:
[07:50] <zetheroo> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/VPN connection 1:2:id=meteotest
[07:50] <zetheroo> /etc/fstab:17:# Meteotest Shares
[07:52] <Loshki> zetheroo: the 2nd is a comment, so harmless. The first implies it's something to do with Network Manager...
[07:55] <Petazz> somsip: Screen is nice but I need them to be more easily accessible
[07:56] <Petazz> I mean changing the tab with a mouse for example is nice
[08:00] <aaiaai> How do I remove Wine from my Ubuntu 14.04? I tried to install SketchUp Make 2014 ... couldn't get it to work. Installed Play on linux .... nope nothing happened here . So I wanna remove everything that has to do with Wine  from my installation... how do i do it??
[08:00] <cfhowlett> aaiaai, sudo apt-get purge wine*
[08:01] <Jakob_> I'm in need of some help with a squid3 server, i keep getting TCP_denied/403 3915 - standard squid3 configfile, can anyone help (: - can't anyone help me :d
[08:02] <cfhowlett> !server | Jakob_
[08:02] <popey> aaiaai: as well as removing the WINE application itself, there's probably a hidden directory called .wine in your home directory you may want to clear out.
[08:03] <geirha> Petazz: you'll need a file that sources .bashrc, then the right virtualenv file, then pass that file to bash's --rcfile
[08:05] <hxm> hello
[08:05] <hxm> i am using gnome and at the top bar, i cant see the menus File Edit View... what did i remove?
[08:05] <zetheroo> Loshki: I don't have meteotest.ch anywhere in my network manager connections
[08:05] <zetheroo> :P
[08:09] <blewh> hi all. i'm using awesomewm and i would like to find out how to manually start the keyboard switcher icon because i accidentally closed it
[08:11] <Loshki> zetheroo: well, if it isn't local config, it must be coming from the DHCP server. Can you check the dhcp logs, failing that, run dhclient in verbose mode.
[08:13] <zetheroo> where are the dhcp logs? If it was coming from the DHCP server wouldn't all other Linux systems also be having this issue?
[08:13] <zetheroo> how do I run the dhclient in verbose mode?
[08:15] <Svetlana> it has a -v switch for that zetheroo, but I'm not sure how to enable verbose logging without that yet
[08:16] <ikonia> it also has -d which forces it to run in the foreground
[08:16] <Loshki> zetheroo: sorry, I don't run dhcp myself, I assume it logs to /var/log somewhere.
[08:16] <ikonia> you'll see logs in the syslog
[08:16] <zetheroo> ok
[08:16] <ikonia> zetheroo: keep in mind running dhclient and networkmanager launching a dhclient session are very different
[08:17] <zetheroo> :P
[08:17] <Loshki> Now *that's* teamwork!
[08:17] <somsip> Petazz: so would a tabbed terminal help?
[08:17] <zetheroo> I just want this to work without me having to remove that entry from resolv.conf every time I boot up my machine
[08:18] <ikonia> thats what dnsmasq is for
[08:18] <ikonia> (assuming you're letting network manager manage your connections)
[08:19] <geirha> Petazz: create a file named "v1rc" in your homedir that contains: "source ~/.bashrc; source /path/to/venv1/bin/activate" (without the quotes). Then create a "v2rc" for the second virtualenv etc...
[08:20] <geirha> Petazz: then run  gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile=default -e 'bash --rcfile ~/v1rc' --tab-with-profile=default -e 'bash --rcfile ~/v2rc'
[08:20] <zetheroo> ikonia: yes, on this machine it's all just via nm
[08:20] <srandev_> Oho
[08:21] <ikonia> zetheroo: so dnsmasq should be managing your dns servers and your resolv.conf should only point at 127.0.0.1
[08:21] <zetheroo> ikonia: how do I check this?
[08:22] <ikonia> look in /etc/resolv.conf, is your dns server 127.0.0.1
[08:24] <zetheroo> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[08:24] <zetheroo> search mt.local
[08:24] <zetheroo> but after a reboot is says: search meteotest.ch mt.local
[08:24] <zetheroo> ikonia: ^
[08:25] <Arhur70> hi, anyone was able to use ammyy admin on linux like operator?
[08:25] <ikonia> zetheroo: so the dhcp server is providing that
[08:25] <kappy> 你好
[08:26] <kappy> hello, every one
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !cn  | kappy
[08:26] <ikonia> zetheroo: you either need to tell dnsmasq to ignore that or tell dhclient to not request dns search providers
[08:26] <zetheroo> ikonia: but then wouldn't all other Linux machines on the network which are using DHCP be effected too?
[08:27] <Loshki> zetheroo: go find one and compare it to your own machine.
[08:28] <ikonia> zetheroo: depends,
[08:29] <cfhowlett> I'm preparing to purchase a replacement for my 2009 dell.  final round: mac air vs. lenovo x1 carbon touch.  QUESTION: can I boot a live session on the mac air?  none of the !mac tutorials indicate this; they just discuss install.
[08:30] <zetheroo> Loshki: I am starting to wonder if mine is the only Linux machine using DHCP :P
[08:31] <Loshki> zetheroo: :-)
[08:32] <cynicallemon> looks like debian will be not be allowing any systemd substitutes and its causing some bad feelings - https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/7/254
[08:32] <Loshki> zetheroo: who controls the DHCP server?
[08:38] <zetheroo> Loshki: I was gone for 2 weeks ... and changes were made by the other IT guy who generally manages that side of things ... :P
[08:46] <vitimiti> Hi
[08:50] <Guest87487> hi
[08:52] <beware> i have an ubuntu system with some sort of a desktop/GUI but i can't identify which one, as in, its "root meta package"
[08:53] <somsip> beware: maybe dpkg --get-selections | grep '-desktop' ?
[08:54] <beware> i think i found it
[08:54] <cfhowlett> somsip, without the quote marks ...
[08:54] <beware> gir2.1freedesktop
[08:54] <beware> gir1.2-freedesktop <- this, even
[08:55] <cfhowlett> beware, that's on all buntu's I believe
[08:55] <somsip> beware: hmm. I was hoping for somthing obvious like kde-desktop, but worth a try.
[08:55] <beware> no, none that obvious
[08:55] <beware> there's gnome-desktop-data but not gnome-desktop
[08:55] <cfhowlett> beware, mine states 'ubuntustudio-desktop'  as one of 14 entries - not exactly obvious
[08:56] <beware> i have none that end at -desktop
[08:56] <beware> i think gir1.2 isn't it
[08:56] <somsip> ok, so I have none because I have a non-standard desktop, but it seems like a possible. Admitted fail.
[08:56] <beware> because attempting to autoremove it, will then install a lot
[08:57] <beware> i need to find the one that will not then install a lot
[08:57] <beware> why do they do that anyway
[08:57] <beware> just let me remove something
[08:57] <beware> and all its dependencies
[08:57] <beware> and *not* install something else
[08:58] <beware> there's a "desktop-base" but it depends on nothing
[08:58] <somsip> beware: so is it running? What does it look like? Screenshot?
[09:00] <beware> i think something LXDE
[09:03] <Kevindf> Hello i'm setting up SSH server for private key authentication between my Ubuntu server and ubuntu laptop, i generated a public ssh key on both server and laptop and trying to transfer the id_rsa.pub now from my laptop to ubuntu server with the command "scp id_rsa.pub 192.168.0.107:/home/ but i get connection timed out
[09:03] <Kevindf> even tho pinging 192.168.0.107 works perfect
[09:04] <somsip> Kevindf: you need user@192.168.107, but ssh-copy-id is a better approach
[09:04] <somsip> Kevindf: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4830/easiest-way-to-copy-ssh-keys-to-another-machine
[09:05] <Kevindf> alright thank you, also i think i know what prevents me also
[09:05] <Kevindf> i locked my ssh with ip's and didn't add my laptop ip to the sshd_config yet
[09:05] <Kevindf> but i'll take a look at that link also, thank you
[09:05] <somsip> np
[09:13] <jishjish> hi all -- just wondering when using cp with FIND and xargs how do you tell it to copy and rename files (when you don't know if a file will have the same filename or not? ) http://tinyurl.com/findcopy
[09:13] <jishjish> I tried copying four text files, but only three copied because one had the same name.
[09:14] <somsip> jishjish: so you copied /a/file.txt and /b/file.txt but one overwrote the other?
[09:16] <jishjish> somsip: no as I understand it only 3 files out of the four i expected were copied.
[09:17] <somsip> jishjish: because two of them came from different source directories but had the same filename, yes?
[09:18] <Guest53399> Help please
[09:18] <Guest53399> can't create /var/cache/apt-show-versions/files: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 196. E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i' E: Sub-process returned an error code
[09:18] <jishjish> somsip: yes, I want to force it to copy the forth file and rename it to file(1).txt or someting. Maybe I need another command?
[09:18] <Guest53399> I deleted everything in /var/cache
[09:19] <somsip> jishjish: yes. Instead of using -exec cp, you could need to replace cp with a small script to check for an existing file before copying it, and to rename it if it exists
[09:20] <falcon2390> resta anche domani
[09:20] <somsip> jishjish: ooo. cp --backup might help http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16669/copy-files-with-renaming
[09:22] <jishjish> somsip: ok, but wow I thought given linux is primarily driven there would be a switch to do this.
[09:22] <somsip> jishjish: laaaggggg
[09:24] <jishjish> *primarily terminal driven
[09:25] <somsip> jishjish: did you see my last comment? cp --backup might be what you want
[09:27] <jishjish> somsip ok I think that might work thanks.
[09:30] <A1Recon> OK guys I uninstalled wine and everything linked to it using sudo apt-get purge wine* ... and then I realised half the stuff from my system is gone ...terminator samba and now after a restart I realise Unity is gone too. How do I get unity back??
[09:34] <A1Recon> Last time this happened ..... there was something about compiz config setting manager...
[09:35] <Jordy_> Hi everyone - i'm searching for an Ubuntu program for downloading all XSD's (SOAP webservice) from an URL to my local machine. Does anyone know the right program?
[09:36] <rom1504> A1Recon: hint: never do sudo apt-get [command] [word containing *]
[09:36] <rom1504> to fix your problem, try google
[09:37] <somsip> rom1504: we try to be more helpful in here than just suggesting google. If you don't have an answer, better to just keep quiet
[09:37] <beware> somsip++
[09:38] <A1Recon> Somsip I have no access to my apps .... my PC is literally dead right now...
[09:39] <somsip> A1Recon: And I've kept quite because I have no idea and am busy on other things to properly research it for you
[09:40] <A1Recon> No hard feelings man.... I'm just saying...
[09:40] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I setup the autodiscover redirect for the exchange auto discover on a apache server?
[09:42] <rom1504> somsip: well since he didn't try google first, it seems he doesn't know he can, so that's helpful
[09:42] <rom1504> I'm pretty sure if I type "install unity" in google, the first results will answer his question
[09:43] <rom1504> maybe apt-cache search unity even
[09:44] <rom1504> A1Recon: literrally dead ? you don't even have access to a terminal ?
[09:44] <somsip> !google | rom1504 (admittedly it's a guideline, not a rule. EOT for me)
[09:44] <rom1504> (if so, just reinstall ubuntu, that'll be quicker)
[09:45] <rom1504> hmm ok
[09:46] <rom1504> so maybe telling him to google some keywords would be enough ?
[09:47] <chz> Hello, guys, how can I delete the variable configuration for man(PAGER)
[09:48] <somsip> chz: export PAGER='' I would think. Put it in .bashrc or .bash_aliases for a permanent change
[09:49] <A1Recon> Rom154 when this thing happens ...all u get is the desktop and the icons on it .. if you somehow open any nautilus windows u won't have the menubar at the top and no ctrl alt T will not work either
[09:49] <A1Recon> Done
[09:50] <A1Recon> Installed unity ccsm and updated and then restrted lightdm
[09:51] <chz> somsip: I already deleted all the configuration for $PAGER in .bashrc and config.fish(I use fish-shell), but the wrong configuration which I made yesterday still takes affect even I reboot my OS and delete the configuration..
[09:52] <somsip> chz: bash has an /etc/bashrc so maybe fish has something similar? If you're not explicitly setting it to null then it must be being set somewhere. You could do a wide grep if you have to...
[09:54] <rolandsharp> please ignore :)
[09:55] <A1Recon> Holy hell ....guys remember the purge unity* that I did?? Well it also took down a lot more .... even the purple terminal in ubuntu is gone ... only xterm remains...
[09:55] <Jeeves_Moss> already did.  LOL
[09:55] <chz> somsip: I didn't change /etc/fish/config.fish, only ~/.config/fish/config.fish
[09:55] <A1Recon> Is there a way to get everuthing back just the way it was?
[09:57] <penguin1> hello everyone!
[09:57] <penguin1> need your help
[09:57] <penguin1> need to update bash on my ubuntu server 11.10
[09:57] <jishjish> penguin1: shoot
[09:57] <jishjish> oh is it the bash bug.
[09:58] <penguin1> jishjish: yes
[09:58] <jishjish> I've never used ubuntu server but can you use sudo apt-get install Whatever Bash prompt you want
[09:58] <penguin1> jishjish: please help me how can I update only bash
[09:58] <JarpseB_> penguin1: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[09:58] <penguin1> hi JarpseB: I just need to update bash only
[09:59] <penguin1> but it's already End of life support can't fetch update from ubuntu server anymore
[10:00] <indrabinridwan> how much salary a ubuntu developer?
[10:01] <somsip> indrabinridwan: it's volunteers only here, so nothing
[10:02] <jishjish> indrabinridwan: I know a web developer getting 65K a year aud and he uses ubuntu everyday, as their whole infrastructure is based on it. Maybe stack overflow careers or seek, depending on your country.
[10:02] <jishjish> indrabinridwan: but people on these forums are just here to help others or in my case learn from others and try to help.
[10:03] <somsip> penguin1: you will not get an official package as 11.10 is end-of-line. You either find an unofficial package maybe from a PPA or you build from source, or you replace bash with something else. Either way, you have other things to worry about using a version that has not been updated for !2 years
[10:03] <indrabinridwan> mmm
[10:03] <somsip> indrabinridwan: this is not the place to have this conversation. Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss further
[10:04] <bajin-lee> hello , why my PDF exported by librewriter loss the table in the .odt?
[10:04] <penguin1> somsip: kindly give me a link about updating bash of 11.10
[10:04] <somsip> penguin1: I don't have one
[10:04] <penguin1> somsip:how can you help me?
[10:05] <somsip> penguin1: I have given you all I have
[10:05] <penguin1> somsip:thanks anyway
[10:05] <somsip> penguin1: you need to upgrade to a supported version. That is the best advice
[10:06] <penguin1> somsip: it's a production live server cannot do downtime
[10:06] <k1l_> penguin1: your 11.10 server already got a lot of other security issues, not only bash.
[10:06] <penguin1> somsip however is there any paid professional support that I can purchase in ubuntu?
[10:07] <k1l_> penguin1: yes, you can contact canonical for paid support
[10:07] <penguin1> k1l: how can I contact them?
[10:07] <indrabinridwan> I heard that Stallman hates ubuntu. is that true? I do not understand
[10:07] <Svetlana> penguin1: longer version: you could compile bash or try to download a .deb from the latest repos, but your libs and deps are too old, and getting them all by hand is more problems than updating using a package manager
[10:07] <k1l_> penguin1: http://www.ubuntu.com/management
[10:07] <somsip> !ot | indrabinridwan (again, this channel is for support questions only)
[10:08] <Svetlana> indrabinridwan: that is true -- he does not acknowledge of existence of non-free software (and ubuntu includes non-free drivers and stuff by default)
[10:08] <oskie> hello, I have both /etc/init/foo.conf and /etc/init.d/foo, which one is used by 'service foo start'?
[10:18] <tace> amigos
[10:28] <exarkun> I have an external display attached to my x230.  I have both displays active.  When I suspend and then unsuspend, all of the windows on the internal display have moved to the external display.  How do I keep them where they are through this cycle?
[10:28] <mehdi__> hey guys i can login to my email from the web but cant get my thunderbird to work get "invalid username and password"
[10:28] <Ben64> mehdi__: ask your email provider for instructions
[10:28] <exarkun> Also when I draw windows from the external display to the internal display, there's a *ton* of resistance at the boundary.  I have to drag about 800 pixels beyond the divide before the window snaps all the way onto the internal display.
[10:29] <exarkun> How do I turn that off?
[10:29] <mehdi__> Ben64, FYI i use MDaemon
[10:30] <k1l_> mehdi__: well, mdaemon is a windows server thingy. are you sure its working properly? ask the mdaemon windows support
[10:31] <MasterPiece> Hey! One Spammer is here! Kick Out She : user : cutegirl99
[10:31] <mehdi__> k1l_, in webclient in works fine and for couple of hours working fine but now its ruined , this bloody windows
[10:32] <tace> amigos. how can i make linux open windows server or domain
[10:32] <MasterPiece> unopaste, AYT? kick out cutegirl99, This is Spammer but ( about pornographic )
[10:33] <k1l_> MasterPiece: please report spammers to #ubuntu-ops
[10:38] <gdhgfhjghg> PRIVMSG cutegirl99 :help
[10:40] <sanky97> hello?
[10:40] <ikonia> gdhgfhjghg: please check your private messages
[10:40] <ikonia> sanky97: hello
[10:49] <JenniferB2> Hi folks! Is there a program for Ubuntu 14 that lets you pause/freeze a program and continue it using some program menu? I know you can do it from the System monitor but I figured there might be something that makes this avaialabe from the program menu.. ??
[10:51] <Kevindf> I cannot SSH into my server trough my ubuntu desktop when i enable my ufw firewall, what port should i allowed in order to be able to connect without having to disable my firewall?
[10:53] <jost> Does someone know a log analizer software for webservers (apache specifially) that can handle the 206 Partial Content status code?
[10:53] <Ben64> Kevindf: ssh is usually port 22
[10:53] <jost> webalizer and awstats do not support it.
[10:53] <jost> If you know a better channel for this question, please direct me there
[10:53] <Kevindf> it is but i did ufw allow from 192.168.0.107 to any port 22
[10:53] <Kevindf> that ip is my servers one
[10:54] <Kevindf> should i do tesame but with the ip from my ubuntu desktop?
[10:56] <Kevindf> ok, that worked :)
[10:56] <Kevindf> thanks
[11:05] <exarkun> I have an external display attached to my x230.  I have both displays active.  When I suspend and then unsuspend, all of the windows on the internal display have moved to the external display.  How do I keep them where they are through this cycle?
[11:07] <dotspace>  Is there any way to permit a non-root user to write files which are inside some chroot-ed environment ?
[11:10] <root> hello I have a problem
[11:12] <requiem8_> hello
[11:12] <tace> hi
[11:12] <Guest53399> I have a problem
[11:12] <requiem8_> I have xubuntu and I can move my icons to the right corner on my desktop
[11:12] <tace> say it out
[11:12] <Guest53399> tace requiem8_
[11:13] <requiem8_> I can but its like i have an invisible wall
[11:13] <Guest53399> can't create /var/cache/apt-show-versions/files: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 196. E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i' E: Sub-process returned an error code
[11:13] <requiem8_> I can not put my icons fully on the right
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:15] <requiem8_> here is my problem
[11:15] <requiem8_> http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/41/1412766915-desktop-icons-problem-right-corner.png
[11:16] <requiem8_> On the left side, I can put completely my icons but not on the right side
[11:17] <requiem8_> anybody?
[11:18] <thana> hi
[11:18] <thana> is upstart able to track services started via init.d-script and restart service when they die?
[11:19] <requiem8_> I have also a question, can I disable the auto arrange on xubuntu ? to move the icons freely
[11:37] <zetheroo> anyone else experiencing this? today I startup thunderbird and have these "Enter username and password for .... " popup windows jumping at me ... what's all this about and how do I get rid of this annoying behavior?
[11:37] <Svetlana> it will pop that window again if it thinks the password is wrong - cancel it to get it to stop
[11:38] <zetheroo>  Svetlana: you talking to me?
[11:38] <Svetlana> yes
[11:38] <zetheroo> well I can close the windows ... but every time I open Thunderbird they all reopen again
[11:39] <zetheroo> one window for every google account I have in there
[11:39] <zetheroo> and it just start today ...
[11:40] <zetheroo> If I disable Lighting addon or Provider for Google Calendar addon the problem is gone ...
[11:40] <zetheroo> but I need those addons
[11:41] <kevindf> I setup public key authentication on my ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop and it works perfect, but now i'm trying to setup public authentication on windows trough putty and generated a key, am i supposed to paste the key into /home/deploy/.ssh/authorized_keys and save it?
[11:41] <kevindf> in order to authorize the key on my ubuntu server
[11:44] <jpentland> Does someone know how to change the permissions of a particular file inside of a .tar.gz archive?
[11:46] <geirha> jpentland: extract, chmod, archive
[11:46] <jpentland> geirha, hmm ok
[11:47] <geirha> !pm | huqinlou0123
[11:48] <Al___> I need help with the keyring
[11:49] <Al___> How do I set it to default a blank password
[11:49] <zermanno> join #cmake
[11:49] <zermanno> ops
[11:49] <Kamuela> Can I install b43 firmware without internet access? Is there a package somewhere that I can copy through a USB?
[11:49] <langit> malam
[11:49] <langit> newbie use xubuntu
[11:51] <Al___> Anybody?  How do I set the login keyring to blank?
[11:51] <Kamuela> Can I install b43 firmware without internet access? Is there a package somewhere that I can copy through a USB?
[11:53] <Al___> If I had lots of free time now, I would wait.  Sorry...  One last time, how can the login keyring be set to blank
[11:54] <Al___> #Kamuela I guess no one is here
[11:54] <Al___> Kamuela, I guess no one is here
[11:55] <Al___> msg Kamuela I guess no one is here
[11:55] <Svetlana> uninstall whatever is responsible for the keyring if you don't need it
[11:56] <Al___> Svetlan---Thanks but I think it is the "autologin" that is responsible
[11:56] <Al___> Svetlana---and I can't change that due to network issues
[11:58] <Svetlana> you can't just remoe autologin package to get rid of the login keyring?
[11:58] <Wollie88> thats not really a solution is it
[11:59] <Wollie88> rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[11:59] <Wollie88> seems like a safer approach
[11:59] <Al___> Svetlana---The administrator wants the autologin
[11:59] <langit> can i install dropbox in xubuntu guys?
[12:00] <Wollie88> yes
[12:00] <Wollie88> sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox
[12:00] <Al___> Wollie88-----that looks like a good approach
[12:00] <Al___> Wollie88----What negative consequences will rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring have?
[12:01] <Wollie88> your keyring will be clear
[12:02] <Al___> Wollie88----Will that mean anyone that logs in can see passwords?  I get that idea from searching the Internet about blank keyring
[12:02] <Wollie88> no, all the stuff in your keyring will be deleted
[12:02] <langit> thx wollie88 :) its work
[12:03] <anvo> Hey all! What is the document root directory for 14.04...?
[12:03] <Al___> Wollie88-------This is probably a stupid question-What is "in" the keyring?
[12:05] <Al___> Wollie88----I mean, what would be bad about deleting all the stuff in my keyring?
[12:05] <xangua> your keys/passwords  Al___
[12:06] <Al___> xangua-----thanks.  btw, how do I make a message just go to a certain person.  I keep forgetting....
[12:08] <Al___> Okay, thanks everyone.  I will use the command rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[12:09] <Al___> One last question: How does the default keyring get set in the first place?  I mean some of workstations come up with that message "unlock keyring" and some don't.....
[12:10] <Al___> All the workstations are basically the same....
[12:10] <Wollie88> Al: i dont know
[12:10] <Al___> I have 8 workstations here
[12:11] <Al___> This "unlock keyring" seems to be a random thing.
[12:12] <Al___> Have a nice day/night/afternoon everyone!
[12:12] <Wollie88> m Al___  you to
[12:12] <Al___> sdafas
[12:12] <sergey__> Hi)
[12:12] <Kamuela> I'll ask again in a bit.
[12:14] <sergey__> Does anyone have Lenovo z580?
[12:15] <sergey__> How are things with booting time?
[12:15] <sergey__> with ubuntu 14.04
[12:17] <xangua> you can download it and try it yourself
[12:17] <monester_laptop> Hi all, I've found broken logrotate config for zabbix-agent, how I can file a bug?
[12:20] <sergey__> I know that lenovo z580 had issues with *buntu 12 (long booting time ~10 min). Did they fix this in 14.04?
[12:23] <Wollie88> msg sergey__  what make you say it has boot problems ?
[12:24] <sergey__> well... thats what people say
[12:24] <Wollie88> msg sergey__  On the ubuntu forums ?
[12:24] <sergey__> yes
[12:24] <k1l_> sergey__: you can try a 14.04 live system and check it yourself
[12:24] <sergey__> but its about 12.04
[12:25] <Wollie88> msg sergey__  I did some googeling
[12:25] <Wollie88> should be fixed in 1404
[12:25] <sergey__> thx)
[12:25] <sergey__> i hope so)
[12:26] <Wollie88> good luck !
[12:26] <sveinse> What options do you have if you want to run a desktop on a virtual/remote desktop, like nx? Unity and gnome shell is relying on 3D accel these days, right?
[12:26] <auscompgeek> sveinse: there's always LXDE and XFCE
[12:27] <auscompgeek> sveinse: also MATE if you prefer that
[12:27] <sveinse> auscompgeek: I know xfce, how is LXDE?
[12:27] <sergey__> bin using linux as quest system for years. think its time to throw windows away :)
[12:28] <Wollie88> msg sveinse ldxe is a bit les nice than xfce
[12:28] <Wollie88> msg sveinse lxde feels old
[12:28] <Wollie88> msg sveinse lxde feels and basic
[12:29] <auscompgeek> Wollie88: please stop arbitrarily prefixing your messages with "msg" :|
[12:29] <sergey__> lxde is lighter... but definitely xfce. using it myself
[12:29] <sveinse> When we talk about remote desktops: are there any good alternatives to nx? nx have moved in a separate direction with their new SW
[12:30] <auscompgeek> !freenx | sveinse
[12:30] <auscompgeek> some other alternatives are also listed there
[12:30] <auscompgeek> of course, you can always use VNC instead
[12:31] <CiSense> Hi, I have nvidia driver issues, nvidia recommend version 340.46 for my card but it's not available in the 14.04.1 list of additional drivers, should I use xorg-edgers to update?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> CiSense, which nvidia driver has issues?
[12:35] <CiSense> 331.38
[12:35] <BluesKaj> and what are the issues?
[12:35] <sveinse> auscompgeek: Thanks. I've been running nx for years, but I am unsure if I need or want to switch to FreeNX.
[12:35] <CiSense> runs out of vertex buffers and crashes the app
[12:36] <CiSense> seems to be a memory leak
[12:39] <sveinse> When running xfce4 and starting gnome apps, their fonts are large. I should use gnome-tweak-tool to set the font sizes, right?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> CiSense, I won't attempt an answer since I know nothing about vertex coloring apps
[12:39] <sveinse> Because oddly enough gnome-tweak-tools crash with "ImportError: cannot import Soup"
[12:46] <CiSense> BluesKaj, ok ... i read that xorgs-edgers should work ok and i can revert with purge if necessary
[12:47] <zetheroo> so on my Ubuntu machine I have Provider for Google Calendar version 1.0, but on Windows there is only version 0.32
[12:48] <zetheroo> I cannot find where to download version 1.0 ...
[12:48] <onibox> Hi. I just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and had the libboost-dbg package installed. On 12.04 i got the libraries with debug symbols in /usr/lib/debug. On 14.04 i only get some files with build-ids under /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/. 12.04: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libboost1.46-dbg/filelist 14.04: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libboost1.54-dbg/filelist . Can anyone shed some light on this please?
[12:48] <zetheroo> anyone know where to download it from?
[12:49] <jon-snow> salut
[12:49] <jon-snow> sav
[12:50] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-google-calendar/
[12:51] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: yeah - but version 1.0 is not there ... :P Seems like the developer pulled it back about 6 hours after having released it ...
[12:51] <BluesKaj> CiSense, that's your call, but I'm surprised that the 331 driver isn't working. From most reports it's very stable and works well.
[12:51] <zetheroo> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/provider-for-google-calendar
[12:59] <G___0_> Hi
[13:00] <G___0_> How can install KDE distro Rosa on Kubuntu ? I mean install KDM login , Icons Rosa and applications launcher
[13:00] <A1Recon> Do you know of any website or video which explains ssh for noobs like? And how to enable it on Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:02] <OerHeks> G___0_, you might want to ask in #kubuntu too
[13:03] <hasjdhoasdh1234> test
[13:03] <hasjdhoasdh1234> ihr
[13:03] <OerHeks> !test | hasjdhoasdh1234
[13:04] <hasjdhoasdh1234> ubottu,
[13:04] <Alduina> Help.... Can't open my web cam. Cheese says "No device found." While UVC Video Viewer says "Unable to open drive"..
[13:05] <OerHeks> A1Recon, the ubuntu docu is great https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[13:05] <hasjdhoasdh1234> alduina,
[13:05] <hasjdhoasdh1234> or
[13:05] <luca__> \connect#oce@n
[13:07] <hasjdhoasdh1234> alduina,
[13:07] <hasjdhoasdh1234> it
[13:08] <Alduina> Yes? Can you help me with this?
[13:08] <hasjdhoasdh1234> sure!
[13:08] <hasjdhoasdh1234> send
[13:08] <hasjdhoasdh1234> but
[13:08] <Pici> hasjdhoasdh1234: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[13:10] <Gunfus_> Hi, on the latest 14.01 update I am getting problems with "EXT4-fs (md0): bad geometr: block count 122096646 exceeds size of device (122096624 blocks)"
[13:22] <Shimpu> P
[13:23] <GothPaw> got a 12.04 server that hosts multiple domains via apache (domain1.com domain2.ca domain3.com domain4.org domain5.ca domain6.ca) and I am getting an issue with /etc/hostname on the server. I can't figure out how to set this file up when there is multiple domains hosted. Should point out this server also hosts a mysqld server, bind9 server, postfix|dovecot server and a "local network only" media hub for music. All files are worked on locally from another
[13:23] <GothPaw> machine. I keep getting an issue saying I need to set a "fully qualified domain/hostname" but I just don't know what to put in there since there is multiple domains and only a single IP address. Please Help
[13:25] <zoli> hi
[13:25] <zoli> how can i clear dns cache in trusty??
[13:26] <johnny_go> restarting networking is one way to do i
[13:27] <GothPaw> zoli: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/how-to-flush-clear-dns-cache-under.html
[13:27] <zoli> hmm, I did that already, also rebooted, but for some reason I cant access a hostname that is in our network. dns resolving is not good, because i can access it in the browser if I replace hostname with IP address. But if I ping the hostname, than I get an other IP that I should have
[13:27] <johnny_go> bad article...nobody should be installing nscd for this purpose
[13:28] <johnny_go> did you check /etc/hosts
[13:28] <GothPaw> 3 methods provided in the article
[13:28] <zoli> GothPaw: yes tx, I also tried nscd too. Installed and restart, but no luck
[13:29] <johnny_go> what is your dns server returning when you nslookup the hostname?
[13:30] <zoli> johnny_go: nslookup gives back the correct IP, but ping doesnt
[13:30] <zoli> how is that possible?
[13:31] <johnny_go> it's funny, i was having this same issue a few days ago. i chalked it up to slow propagation and hard-coded the ip in /etc/hosts for a few days
[13:32] <zoli> and the weird is that it just happened approx. 3 days ago, earlier it was working fine
[13:32] <zoli> there was no resolving issue
[13:33] <zoli> johnny_go: so you also dont have a normal fix for that issue, just cricumventing it with a /etc/hosts file entry?
[13:33] <johnny_go> yeah, i took out the entry a day or two later and it worked fine again. my guess was slow propagation
[13:34] <zoli> hmm
[13:34] <zoli> ok
[13:34] <zoli> how many days did it take for u?
[13:34] <monester> I have a problem with rotating logs of zabbix-agent, it fails to restart zabbix
[13:34] <johnny_go> idk; i wasn't counting since time wasn't a factor for me
[13:34] <johnny_go> getting resolution working asap was
[13:35] <zoli> johnny_go: btw, the other weird thing is that 2 of my collegues sitting next me (also using ubuntu trusty) dont have the same issue
[13:35] <zoli> only me
[13:35] <monester> how I can file a bug about this? When I click "report a bug" it redirects me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:36] <GothPaw> what the best practice in config for a FQDN when multiple domains point to a single IP?
[13:36] <johnny_go> that is weird. from what i understand, ubuntu supposedly does no dns caching inherently...other services maintain their own caches, like firefox
[13:36] <johnny_go> so no idea why your colleagues would be geting different results unless you're all hitting different dns servers
[13:38] <zoli> lol, sry it was in my hosts file
[13:38] <johnny_go> lol
[13:39] <Mars__> After updating to 14.01, I now get problems about bad geomtry errors on my RAID
[13:39] <zoli> it got there accidentally somehow
[13:39] <zoli> with some others
[13:43] <Mars__> After updating to 14.04.1, I now get problems about bad geomtry errors on my RAID [Corrected with the right release]
[13:43] <cassio3> is it verboten to ask what firewall mavericks uses in here
[13:44] <cfhowlett> cassio3, better to ask #osx don't you think?
[13:45] <clumsy_bot> cassio3, Could simply just be iptables.
[13:47] <klassiker> having problems with ubuntu 14.4 networking, eth0 is up but not working
[13:47] <klassiker> where should i check for errors? how do i start it?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> !networking | klassiker
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !network | klassiker
[13:49] <klassiker> It's a wired connection cfhowlett
[13:52] <johnny_go> are you on desktop or server?
[13:52] <klassiker> desktop
[13:53] <johnny_go> what do you mean by not working? are you getting an ip?
[13:54] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, You can see the adapter with 'ip link'?
[13:54] <klassiker> yeah, eth0 is up
[13:55] <trinode> hey, in the past few days I've had some updates, and those updates have both broken backlight control (fn + F5/F6) (I can still set it via the terminal) and going into the "Screen Display" control panel entry simply freezes the control panel app
[13:55] <klassiker> johnny_go: its up, but i dont know how to start it or why it didnt started
[13:55] <trinode> (without loading the screen display app)
[13:55] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, systemctl start networking.service?
[13:55] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, It could be dhcpcd.service if you're just using ethernet.
[13:56] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Try either dhcpcd, NetworkManager or Networking
[13:56] <klassiker> job is already running
[13:56] <klassiker> dhcpcd is not installed
[13:57] <klassiker> Networking profile is edited and when i start it, it tries to connect but fails after some seconfs
[13:57] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Stop and start the service again?
[13:57] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Are you allowing DHCP to automatically get the IP address?
[13:57] <klassiker> failed while stopping
[13:57] <clumsy_bot> Try 'ifconfig' to see if you're getting assigned an IP.
[13:57] <klassiker> how do i check it?
[13:57] <trinode> right so, xbacklight scan set the backlight, so it's something about gnome that's broken
[13:58] <klassiker> i dont get an ip
[13:58] <marlinc_> Any up-to-date tutorial for installing Ubuntu 14.04 on a late 2010 iMac?
[13:59] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Not even a '169.xxx.xxx.xxx'?
[13:59] <klassiker> no, there is no ip adress
[14:00] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, That is weird.
[14:00] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Could it be the firmware for it isn't installed?
[14:01] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, I find that highly unlikely though, Ubuntu bundles the nonfree stuff.
[14:01] <cfhowlett> marlinc_, use the saucy wiki
[14:01] <klassiker> Ethernet Controller ist Realtek Semiconductor RTL8111/8411
[14:02] <marlinc_> Okay, I'll check
[14:02] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, This might sound weird, but here's a link to the ArchWiki
[14:02] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Networking
[14:02] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, You might be able to find some useful information there.
[14:04] <klassiker> Kernel driver in use
[14:04] <klassiker> r8169
[14:04] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Try a ping to the default gateway.
[14:05] <klassiker> Network is unreachable
[14:05] <hejsan> What is a DOL buffer?
[14:05] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, It's most probably your machine then, not stating the obvious here, just wanted to get rid of the other variables.
[14:05] <Pici> hejsan: in what context?
[14:05] <reisio> hejsan: what's it to you^
[14:06] <hejsan> Pici: it is buffering data
[14:06] <Pici> hejsan: Is this in regards to a specific application?
[14:07] <dom96_> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 on an HP Chromebook 14 and the touch pad does not work. Any ideas what the problem could be? I found http://askubuntu.com/questions/510705/how-can-i-fix-the-touchpad-on-my-chromebook-14-using-ubuntu-14-04 but it seems unresolved.
[14:07] <klassiker> i cant figure it out
[14:07] <LnxNoob> Hi guyz
[14:07] <reisio> LnxNoob: howdy
[14:07] <hejsan> Pici: yes, it is storing data for a limited amount of time
[14:07] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Work it out slowly. Read through the ArchWiki page, it contains some useful tidbits.
[14:08] <reisio> dom96_: run 'sudo cat /dev/input/mice' in a terminal and move a finger about on the touchpad
[14:08] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Possible places to look are the cable itself, the systemd service, wake-on-lan and power-saving mode
[14:08] <Pici> hejsan: Where are you seeing this "DOL buffer"?
[14:08] <dom96_> reisio: that gives me no output.
[14:08] <dom96_> reisio: gives output if I move my USB mouse though.
[14:09] <reisio> dom96_: you're probably missing fundamental kernel support, then
[14:09] <reisio> dom96_: which your askubuntu link also suggests
[14:09] <Wollie88> check this page
[14:09] <Wollie88> http://ubuntuonhpchromebook.blogspot.nl/p/step-4-fixing-touchpad.html
[14:10] <dom96_> reisio: Does that mean I need to compile my own kernel?
[14:10] <reisio> dom96_: probably not, but possibly :p
[14:10] <Wollie88> wasnt to hard to find this on google
[14:10] <Wollie88> no you dont
[14:10] <reisio> although, FYI compiling a kernel is not difficult :)
[14:10] <Wollie88> just have to load a couple of modules
[14:10] <Wollie88> the compilation part isnt hard
[14:10] <reisio> no part is hard :)
[14:10] <reisio> (twss)
[14:11] <dom96_> Yeah, it's not. Means I will need to worry about updating it though.
[14:11] <dom96_> Wollie88, Thanks, i'll follow that guide.
[14:11] <reisio> well, not 'worry', but recall
[14:11] <reisio> unless the update covers it, as they tend to
[14:12] <Wollie88> dom96_, good luck
[14:12] <LnxNoob> Any opinion on owncloud around there ?
[14:12] <klassiker> clumsy_bot: the cable is working on windows and linux, service is ok
[14:13] <dom96_> Wollie88: lol. That doesn't inspire confidence.
[14:13] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Okay, but you're not getting an IP?
[14:13] <reisio> LnxNoob: has 'cloud' in its name, so it's probably daft
[14:13] <Wollie88> dom96_, its gonna work
[14:13] <compdoc> I tried owncloud over a year ago, and it seemed pretty broken. Might be better by now
[14:13] <Wollie88> dom96_, trust me
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !info owncloud
[14:13] <dom96_> Wollie88, that's better :)
[14:13] <klassiker> yes clumsy_bot , RTNETLINK Network is unreachable
[14:14] <Wollie88> i tried owncloud too
[14:14] <Wollie88> seemed all very unlogical to me
[14:14] <LnxNoob> Wollie88: Why so ?
[14:14] <dom96_> Wollie88, that guide seems to suggest installing an older version of the kernel.
[14:14] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Google search turns up plenty of people have these problems.
[14:15] <dom96_> Wollie88, Think I can just skip that step?
[14:15] <Wollie88> dom96_,  you could try skipping it
[14:15] <dom96_> ok
[14:16] <clumsy_bot> klassiker, Got a thread on bbs.archlinux.org that suggests appending something to netctl.profile, but Ubuntu utilizes NetworkManager by default.
[14:16] <NorfolkNClue> afternoon all
[14:16] <reisio> 'f'rnoon
[14:16] <NorfolkNClue> I have a question about PPAs
[14:17] <NorfolkNClue> specifically, if I've added a PPA to a repository, how do I search for the package that I want?
[14:17] <NorfolkNClue> apt-cache search isn't doing it for me
[14:17] <eeee> NorfolkNClue: did you update?
[14:18] <NorfolkNClue> well, I couldn't add the ppa via cmd line, so I added it via software centre
[14:18] <NorfolkNClue> then I have since done an update via cmd line yes
[14:18] <dom96_> Wollie88, "ERROR: could not insert 'chromeos_laptop': No such device" :\
[14:18] <reisio> dunno, installing random binary kernels sounds worse than building your own stuff to me
[14:18] <reisio> especially if it doesn't "just work"
[14:19] <NorfolkNClue> so I figured I'd try another way
[14:19] <dom96_> yay https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/02/msg00311.html
[14:19] <dom96_> :(
[14:20] <NorfolkNClue> found the ppa in question on launchpad.net
[14:20] <NorfolkNClue> and want to d/l the .deb so I can install manually via dpkg
[14:20] <NorfolkNClue> but...where to locate the .deb? I can only see the file info
[14:21] <eeee> NorfolkNClue: you can check if the ppa is added correctly
[14:21] <eeee> cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[14:22] <NorfolkNClue> the PPAs seem to be in there
[14:23] <OerHeks> NorfolkNClue, check the ppa page, dows it have packages for your ubuntu version?
[14:23] <OerHeks> does*
[14:25] <A1Recon_> Anyone know how to install SketchUp Make 2014 on Ubuntu 14.04? A link to website which shows how to do this would be very helpful!! The last time I tried, I almost deleted every package from my PC, so I dont wanna take any chances!
[14:26] <NorfolkNClue> @OerHecks - how do I tell
[14:26] <Wollie88> dom96_, im afraid you have to install that older kernel
[14:26] <dom96_> Wollie88, i'm considering using ChrUbuntu.
[14:27] <OerHeks> NorfolkNClue, on the ppa page is a drop-down menu, select your ubuntu and find out
[14:27] <cfhowlett> A1Recon_, it's not an ubuntu product.  see their site for support
[14:27] <adeebnqo> in linux, what kernel module is responsible for loading the battery information under the folder `/sys/class/power_supply`?
[14:27] <Wollie88> dom96_, are there any disadvantages in ChrUbuntu ?
[14:28] <OerHeks> A1Recon_, it is a windows program, join #winehq for installation help and application database
[14:28] <dom96_> Wollie88: I'm not sure how it works. I can't find a simple iso to download.
[14:28] <eeee> NorfolkNClue: if it's only available for older versions, you might be able to modify the ppa source and download the package, if it runs ok.
[14:28] <dom96_> Wollie88: It seems that they have some script which installs it directly onto the chromebook SSD.
[14:28] <dom96_> Wollie88: But I don't want that.
[14:28] <Wollie88> dom96_, do you have a reddit acount ?
[14:29] <dom96_> Wollie88: Yes. Why?
[14:29] <Wollie88> dom96_, you could always ask at http://www.reddit.com/r/ChrUbuntu
[14:29] <NorfolkNClue> OerHeks: Hm, I might be at a non-standard ppa page. I'm looking at a particualr person's page
[14:29] <NorfolkNClue> eeee: I will check that
[14:29] <Wollie88> dom96_,  they might be able to help
[14:29] <dom96_> Wollie88: I'll try #chrubuntu first.
[14:33] <GothPaw> what the best practice to config for a FQDN when multiple domains point to a single IP?
[14:34] <Pici> GothPaw: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server as well, since you aren't gettin an answer here.
[14:35] <trinode> Something seriously broke with my system with some updates
[14:35] <trinode> cannot lod any control-center apps
[14:35] <trinode> *load
[14:36] <trinode> I'm seeing errors everywhere
[14:36] <trinode> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: specified class size for type 'CcNetworkPanel' is smaller than the parent type's 'CcPanel' class size
[14:36] <trinode> that's when trying to load the network item in control centre
[14:37] <eeee> trinode: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-control-center , maybe
[14:38] <Kevindf> In order to let people connect to your server with a domain name, i have to setup BIND?
[14:38] <Kevindf> On my Ubuntu server
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !server | Kevindf,
[14:39] <eeee> trinode: you can reinstall ubuntu-desktop , if you want
[14:39] <awatt> hi
[14:40] <reisio> hi awatt
[14:40] <trinode> eeee: apologies, would the command work for gnome too? (is there a gnome-desktop package?)
[14:40] <awatt> hi reisio
[14:40] <kyuga> Hi, does anyone know which package (or grub config text) enables all of the Fn keys (I ask because my ubuntu-server->apt-get install ubuntu-desktop does not have working Fn keys, whilst a direct install of ubuntu desktop from the desktop .iso does get them working)
[14:40] <cfhowlett> kyuga, I believe that's the firmware package
[14:40] <awatt> i was upgrading and computer shutdown , now i can not install anything due to depencies
[14:41] <eeee> trinode: yes, the package name is ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[14:41] <kyuga> cfhowlett: I'll take a look, cheers
[14:41] <cfhowlett> kyuga, linux-firmware
[14:41] <awatt> apt-get -f install fales
[14:42] <awatt> fails
[14:42] <trinode> eee thanks, I'll give it a go
[14:42] <trinode> eeee: even
[14:42] <eeee> trinode: ok, no problem
[14:43] <philinux> awatt;~ try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:43] <awatt> philinux: i did that too
[14:43] <philinux> awatt;~ pastebin back any errors
[14:43] <awatt> http://pastebin.com/4gp9Zd1r
[14:43] <kyuga> cfhowlett: I have linux-firmware already installed (no luck), linux-firmware-nonfree worth a shot?
[14:43] <jiffe> are there any consequences to installing kernel 3.17 off kernel.ubuntu.com on an 12.04/14.04 machine?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> kyuga, do apt-cache show linux-firmware-nonfree                to see if your device is supported
[14:44] <awatt> philinux: http://pastebin.com/6407wk3W
[14:44] <Siente> hello guys, any ideas why it's always disconnecting me from internet on my ubuntu ( I have installed it on another partition on my HDD ) ?
[14:45] <OerHeks> jiffe, yes, if you have issues, you are on your own. 3.17 rc is only for utopic 14.10 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:46] <kyuga> cfhowlett: yikes, a serious list of 'usb:v1B80pE39Bd*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*,' entries - nothing I can see/translate
[14:46] <cfhowlett> kyuga, yep i saw that.  scary.  the description said mostly support for television
[14:46] <awatt> philinux: , reisio >>http://pastebin.com/4gp9Zd1r , http://pastebin.com/6407wk3W
[14:47] <kyuga> cfhowlett: yup, I'm just wondering if there is a flag in the grub config I need to add (which is not used with an ubuntu-server install - but is with the desktop install)
[14:47] <philinux> awatt;~ you could try temporarily renaming the offending file /usr/share/unity-greeter/custom_cairo-dock_badge.png
[14:47] <awatt> philinux: i know i have multiple sources.list as well but i dont remember what file i edited before
[14:48] <cfhowlett> kyuga, sorry but IDK.  I've never configured anything for hardware from grub
[14:48] <philinux> awatt;~ other than that no idea
[14:48] <kyuga> cfhowlett: np cheers anyhow :)
[14:48] <cfhowlett> kyuga, that being said, my multimedia keys do NOT work ...
[14:48] <kyuga> cfhowlett: uh oh!
[14:49] <cfhowlett> kyuga, everything else works, so I'm not complaining
[14:49] <awatt> philinux: samething
[14:50] <kyuga> cfhowlett: I'm not massively bothered myself.. just annoying not knowing the difference between the server install and the desktop install that gets them working
[14:50] <cfhowlett> kyuga, ah, I see.  yo
[14:50] <kyuga> cfhowlett: I needed the server install to get softraid configured
[14:50] <cfhowlett> are hooked on knowing as am I!
[14:50] <kyuga> cfhowlett: aye :)
[14:51] <Guest68857> Hi, I am having trouble logging on
[14:52] <starfish_> Guest68857, did you forget your password?
[14:52] <Guest68857> Yes
[14:53] <starfish_> there is a way to reset it. I'll find a website with instructions
[14:53] <Guest68857> I haven't been on forums for 6 months
[14:53] <starfish_> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword this one is good
[14:56] <Guest68857> Now have 2 SSO Accounts but neither will log on
[14:56] <Siente> Hello guys, any ideas why it's always disconnecting me from internet on my ubuntu ( I have installed it on another partition on my HDD ) ?
[14:57] <deepimage> list
[15:10] <iilliinn> hello, is anyone using i-tec usb 2.0 to dvi adapter on ubuntu 14.04.1 ?
[15:12] <anaMelany> olas
[15:15] <pavlos> !es | anaMelany
[15:25] <kyuga> Is dpkg-reconfigure -a safe to use?
[15:26] <kyuga> I'm guessing no, mine fails with an error about initramfs-tools being broken or not installed
[15:27] <kyuga> I really should learn not to hose my system mid-week...
[15:28] <facepalm> What were you trying to do?
[15:29] <kyuga> facepalm: Mostly experimenting.. I was wondering if there might be something that needed to be reconfigured after an ubuntu-server -> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop setup to get all my Fn keys working again..
[15:29] <kyuga> (They work on a normal desktop install)
[15:30] <AgZE> How can I check the date where I installed Ubuntu?
[15:30] <kyuga> The relevant modules seem to be loaded, but not all of the Fn keys are working (don't know why they do work on the desktop install, but not via server -> install ubuntu-desktop
[15:30] <AgZE> or, how can I find out when I installed Ubuntu?
[15:32] <facepalm> Anyone else just get PM spammed by queorgullo ?
[15:32] <kyuga> facepalm: yup
[15:32] <AgZE> yes
[15:32] <AgZE> i got spammed too
[15:33]  * kyuga continues to treat his linux install like a retarded step child...
[15:34] <OerHeks> :-)
[15:34] <OerHeks> queorgullo is a bot, spamms so fast
[15:34] <OerHeks> !spam | queorgullo please don't
[15:34] <AgZE> A quite menacing bot, with tactical capability.
[15:36] <Pici> facepalm: can you msg me what you got from the bot?
[15:36] <somsip> AgZE: ls -la / and take the date for /home. It's likely to be right if you've not done anything weird after installing
[15:36] <Pici> nm
[15:36] <kevindf> If i upgrade my ubuntu 13.04 server to 14.04 with the command "do-release-upgrade" i will keep all my files and services running?
[15:36] <AgZE> Pici; he's spamming sexual messages
[15:36] <AgZE> about 'rape girls for free' ...etc
[15:36] <Pici> AgZE: Hes banned from the channel now.
[15:36] <AgZE> pretty coarse
[15:36] <AgZE> Pici: thanks
[15:39] <Foxtrot88> hey
[15:39] <Foxtrot88> good moooorning vietnam!
[15:39] <Foxtrot88> :D
[15:40] <Foxtrot88> Anyone who knows how to manipulate pdf files on bash??
[15:40] <kyuga> Foxtrot88: pdftk can do things like split/merge/optimize..
[15:41] <kyuga> Evening all :)
[15:41] <Foxtrot88> thanks kyuga
[15:41] <Foxtrot88> but i need to make it just with bash
[15:41] <Foxtrot88> its for hw
[15:41] <Foxtrot88> -_-
[15:43] <geirha> Foxtrot88: You can't.
[15:46] <baccenfutter> an welcher umgebungsvariable macht der ssh-agent fest, ob er im X laeuft und fancy GTK starten soll oder ohne X laeuft und bitte in der aktuellen shell nach der passphrase fragt?
[15:46] <somsip> !de | baccenfutter
[15:46] <baccenfutter> ah my bad... sry for disturbing
[15:47] <Foxtrot88> geirha, are you sure?? Im crying right now xD
[15:49] <geirha> Foxtrot88: bash is not a general purpose programming language.
[15:51] <rootpt> im trying to open a app and it gets me this error: ./inflator: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:51] <rootpt> can someone help me?
[15:52] <Foxtrot88> geirha i think i love you
[15:52] <Foxtrot88> thanks
[15:52] <OerHeks> rootpt, what app ?
[15:52] <rootpt> inflator
[15:53] <OerHeks> rootpt, Reaver Inflator?
[15:55] <rootpt> OerHeks, yep
[15:56] <OerHeks> rootpt, as it is part of backtrack, not supported here
[15:56] <OerHeks> !backtrack
[15:56] <rootpt> but its ubuntu
[15:56] <rootpt> and kali is ubuntu
[15:56] <rootpt> buts OK
[15:56] <OerHeks> rootpt, No it is not.
[15:56] <rootpt> ok
[15:56] <rootpt> thanks
[15:56] <fundabit> hi
[15:57] <fundabit> i like ubuntu studio
[15:57] <OerHeks> fundabit, we do too :-)
[15:59] <Kevind> In order to set more then one public authentication key for ssh, do i just have to add the other public key under the one that's already in the .ssh/authorized_keys file?
[15:59] <Kevind> like just 1 space then the other key?
[16:00] <AR45_> someone mention me please, wanna see how irssi notifiies me
[16:01] <Fuchs> AR45_: please use test channels for that, thanks.
[16:02] <mrvadon> hello
[16:02] <mrvadon> everyone
[16:04] <rypervenche> Kevind: Just on a new line. No spaces between them needed.
[16:04] <Kevind> ok, thanks
[16:05] <mrvadon> ded
[16:06] <mrvadon> exit
[16:07] <S_A_> Hi, I am on 12.04 and trying to get kernel sources via "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[16:07] <S_A_> but alsways getting the error
[16:07] <S_A_> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[16:07] <S_A_> Any suggestions to fic it
[16:07] <S_A_> ?
[16:08] <NotreDev> what exactly does apt-get update —fix-missing do? i can’t install uuid-dev because i get a 404… and —fix-missing makes it so that’s no longer a problem. i also read the man pages, but I’m still not clear
[16:08] <geirha> S_A_: Have you edited your /etc/apt/sources.list file? sounds ike you have the "deb" entries, but missing the "deb-src" entries
[16:08] <cfhowlett> S_A_, paste the output from         cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:09] <S_A_> http://pastebin.com/rRXSqbRq
[16:09] <Guest76181> msg /dash hi?
[16:10] <S_A__> sorry had a browser crash
[16:11] <AR45_> How do I add applications to my startup?
[16:11] <S_A__> this is the /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <S_A__> http://pastebin.com/rRXSqbRq
[16:11] <varunendra> NotreDev, it installs missing dependencies and upgrades packages if necessary.
[16:12] <NotreDev> varunendra: i’m applying it to `update` though, not `upgrade` or `install`. does it really install anything?
[16:12] <johncarper> For a teamspeak server hosted on ubuntu server, to let people login trough a domain name to connect to your server, I guess NO-IP would be a good solution to do something like that?
[16:13] <varunendra> NotreDev, I'm not very sure about that, but this is what --fix-missing is for - install what is missing and required.
[16:13] <AR45_> What would be the best command to remove GNOME and Unity and all the files that have to do with it?
[16:13] <geirha> S_A__: and:  apt-cache policy "linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[16:14] <cfhowlett> AR45_, WHOA there hoss!  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:14] <NotreDev> varunendra: i appreciate your insight. if you will, i want just a bit more of an understanding: why would that overcome a 404?
[16:14] <AR45_> cfhowlett: 14.04
[16:14] <cfhowlett> AR45_, nope.  lubuntu / kubuntu/ xubuntu ??? what
[16:14] <somsip> AR45_: didn't we do this earlier?
[16:14] <AR45_> somsip: Hey bro!
[16:15] <AR45_> somsip: I can't boot the minimal CD on my Mac, no idea why!
[16:15] <genii> AR45_: Depends on what the DE is that you DO want. There are a bunch of factoids here like !purekde !purexfce   and so on for each one
[16:15] <AR45_> genii: I already have LXDE running.
[16:15] <genii> !purelxde
[16:15] <AR45_> cfhowlett: Ubuntu sir.
[16:15] <S_A__> geirha: Do you want outpout of this command ?
[16:15] <somsip> AR45_: same still applies. Build up from minimal, or take the pyschocats advice
[16:15] <genii> AR45_: See above.
[16:16] <geirha> S_A__: Yes, it shows where the package is coming from.
[16:16] <AR45_> somsip: Not sure how to build up from minimal if I'm unable to boot the .iso
[16:16] <AR45_> genii: Gratzi!
[16:16] <r004> hello
[16:17] <somsip> AR45_: I mentioned I know nothing about mac, but can't see why it would be any different from any other iso. Maybe re-download it, or check md5 first
[16:17] <r004> how can I install Xorg?
[16:17] <S_A__> geirha: http://pastebin.com/6NF5yTFE
[16:17] <varunendra> NotreDev, I can only say what I *think* or assume. Suppose package 'A' requires version "x" of package 'B', but version "x" is no longer available (404). Then I believe --fix-missing simply upgrades package "A" to a newer version, that depends on the version of 'B' that is available now. I never thought very deeply about it though. So this is just a 'thought' created in last 2 minutes :p
[16:18] <NotreDev> haha awesome
[16:18] <geirha> S_A__: Ok, so it doesn't know where the package came from, that's why it can't find the sources
[16:20] <geirha> S_A__: Probably been replaced by a newer package
[16:20] <AR45_> somsip: I did, tried different methods of creating a bootable .iso none worked.
[16:20] <S_A__> geirha: how to tell it to download from some location ? I already edited and added deb-src in .etc/apt/sources.list
[16:21] <S_A__> but that did not work
[16:21] <somsip> AR45_: ok. I'll leave you to the others then as I'm about done here. Good luck
[16:21] <geirha> S_A__: sudo apt-get update    after editing sources.list, but you already had deb-src entries in your earlier paste
[16:22] <varunendra> NotreDev, actually I was wondering about it too. A couple of days ago, I *force* installed (with "dpkg -i") a version of HandBrake on 13.10 that was originally meant for 13.04. It installed with unsatisfiable dependency errors. Then I simply ran "apt-get install --fix-missing" and "dpkg -i <handbrake package>" again... worked straight away. I don't think it will 'downgrade' any packages to meet any requirements. So the only other possibili
[16:22] <varunendra> ty remains an 'upgrade', hence the *thought*.
[16:22] <NotreDev> k
[16:23] <bswartz> does anyone here know which kernel version will be in utopic?
[16:24] <somsip> !info linux-generic 14.10 | bswartz (but support in #ubuntu+1)
[16:24] <somsip> !info linux-generic utopic | bswartz (but support in #ubuntu+1)
[16:25] <bswartz> somsip: ty
[16:25] <hggdh> bswartz: it is 3.16
[16:25]  * bswartz was hoping it would be 3.17
[16:25] <bswartz> oh well
[16:30] <bynarie> hellooo
[16:31] <bynarie> when does new ubuntu come out?
[16:31] <daftykins> bynarie: #ubuntu+1 for that topic thanks
[16:32] <bynarie> =]
[16:32] <ix_> hello, I've bought a usb stick, I've formatted it but when I mount it, it seems to be doing something, no idea what, because the LED is blinking
[16:33] <bynarie> ix_, more info pleasew
[16:33] <bynarie> please*
[16:33] <jhutchins> ix_: The LED indicates various things depending on the manufacturer.  Sometimes blinking means there are updates that need to be flushed from the buffers to the device, which happens with a smooth unmount.
[16:33] <ix_> bynarie,
[16:34] <ix_> bynarie, what details?
[16:34] <jhutchins> ix_: On a linux system the system is a more reliable source for the state of the drive.
[16:34] <bynarie> ix_, i was confused as to if you had a problem, or you were just curious?
[16:35] <ix_> I'm trying to figure out what is it doing
[16:35] <bynarie> oh ok
[16:35] <ix_> When I mount another usb stick, it doesn't do that
[16:35] <jhutchins> ix_: check "mount" to see if it's mounted, check dmesg for info about it being detected and assigned a device.
[16:36] <jhutchins> ix_: They're inconsistent, expecially on Linux.  That's one reason so many of them have their own software on Windows.
[16:36] <ix_> jhutchins, it mounts it fine, but it does something at about 2 MB/sec
[16:36] <jhutchins> Which, once you get several different devices is a real pain to maintain.
[16:36] <bynarie> if you have gparted you could visually see if its actually being unmounted or not
[16:37] <jhutchins> bynarie: parted has nothing to do with it being monted or not, it's a partition table editor.
[16:37] <jhutchins> bynarie: The mount command shows whether it's mounted.
[16:37] <ix_> how can I find out what my usb stick is doing at 2 MB/sec?
[16:37] <bynarie> jhutchins, oh. I thought it might of some use
[16:37] <bynarie> might be**
[16:38] <jhutchins> ix_: Why do you think it's doing something at that speed?
[16:38] <ix_> jhutchins, because gkrellm says so
[16:39] <ix_> ok, it has suddenly stopped, no idea why
[16:39] <varunendra> bynarie, you are right in that sense though. GParted can show whether a partition is mounted or not, and 'force' unmount it if you tell it to.
[16:40] <bynarie> Yeah i thought it would show what is and isnt mounted
[16:42] <jhutchins> ix_: Possibly reading the filestructure - is there anything on the drive?
[16:42] <jhutchins> ix_: I'm not sure I'd trust gkrellm
[16:42] <ix_> jhutchins, there's nothing, as I wiped it clean
[16:43] <ix_> jhutchins, it was consistent with the blinking LED
[16:43] <jhutchins> Isolol: So is it user writable? Does it unmount smoothly?
[16:43] <ix_> jhutchins, it was probably checking it or something, no idea
[16:44] <ix_> jhutchins, seems to work fine now
[16:52] <teward> when compiling code and then running it i get an error that iofgets.c doesn't exist (No such file or directory).  Is there a way to resolve this?
[16:53] <reisio> teward: ask apt-file
[16:53] <teward> reisio: did that, E:NORESULTS
[16:53] <reisio> teward: from glibc
[16:54] <teward> reisio: thanks
[16:58] <teward> reisio: still not working on 14.04.
[16:58] <teward> maybe its because of the gcc version...
[17:05] <student> hey yo
[17:05] <bynarie> I got a question. I know this sounds silly but how do you rename your desktop icons? Right clicking and hitting rename doesnt work. The property in the textbox doesnt even match what the icon label actually is
[17:05] <student> pssssst
[17:05] <daftykins> hi.
[17:05] <student> a
[17:05] <student> sd
[17:06] <daftykins> student: if you have a question, ask it
[17:06] <student> im new here
[17:06] <student> i dont know what im do'n
[17:06] <daftykins> student: this channel is for Ubuntu support questions only, not chat. so please move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you don't have question
[17:06] <ammaro> hi every one
[17:06] <daftykins> s
[17:08] <sergey__> got a question. is it safe to update *buntu? say from 12.04 to 14.04?
[17:08] <OerHeks> sergey__, sure, but we recommend to backup your data anyway
[17:09] <bynarie> nevermind, i figured it out
[17:09] <genii> sergey__: If you are running a stock system without PPA entries it's fine.
[17:11] <nicklasmoeller> Would this be the right place to ask a question about sharing files on a dualboot (ubuntu, windows) ?
[17:12] <genii> nicklasmoeller: As good a place as any. Just state the question in the main channel and see if anyone takes it up.
[17:16] <nicklasmoeller> I've made an ext4 partition with shared content. Typical /home and /var/www but might be more in the future. Now I've got a problem - I can't really do much with it on windows. Read, for sure, writing acts weird - and when I try to delete something, I need permissions from "Everyone". Some advice?
[17:17] <helpoo> when i try to connect through vpn i get this this message "Unlock keyring 'Default  An application wants  access to the keyring 'Default' but it is locked" I am using Lubuntu , please help me I have no Idea how to fix that !
[17:17] <ammaro> I am windows users, i read about ubuntu and i liked it, but i faced difficulty to deal with the names of the programs and application somewhere, the Abbreviation, how can i learn those ???? Thanks
[17:18] <reisio> ammaro: abbreviation, like what?
[17:18] <nicklasmoeller> Might be off hand, but I could need some advice on how to do it properly. I've got an idea to symlink to an NTFS partition, and run it all on ubuntu's own, but that would take up a lot of space
[17:19] <reisio> nicklasmoeller: hrmm?
[17:19] <Abhijit> hi. anyone can give me sample for creating raid 0 and raid1 using preseed?
[17:20] <Abhijit> whats the syntax for it?
[17:20] <OerHeks> ammaro, same way you learned windows... use it, use it, use it
[17:22] <nicklasmoeller> reisio: I introduced my question a little bit early than my last message. Right now I've got an ext4 partition where I store /home and /var/www - I need full access to this on windows, but it acts weird. I've dualbooted, and I'm just looking for some best practice for sharing some folders between the two (where Windows normally don't support ext4, but ntfs)
[17:22] <sergey__> sorry, but im newbie)) what is ppa? is it some kind third-party software?
[17:22] <OerHeks> !ppa
[17:22] <reisio> nicklasmoeller: http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[17:23] <reisio> sergey__: yes
[17:23] <OerHeks> LucasTT, network problems?
[17:24] <helpoo> when i try to connect through vpn i get this this message "Unlock keyring 'Default  An application wants  access to the keyring 'Default' but it is locked" I am using Lubuntu , please help me I have no Idea how to fix that !
[17:24] <ammaro> OerHeks... I have program named Guayadeque Music Player, I don't know what is the Guayadeque ??  In another case program named Wireshark Network Analyzer... It't different with windows
[17:25] <loki__> hello. i have external usb harddrive, i use it for backups. i am interest in how i can switch off power of it, and power on it when i need do backup?
[17:25] <helpoo> HELP PLEASE
[17:25] <reisio> loki__: hdparm/sdparm
[17:25] <jhutchins> loki__: Is it a flash drive or a physical disk?
[17:26] <helpoo> #Lubuntu
[17:26] <loki__> helpoo, as i remember you need set blank password somewhere.
[17:26] <loki__> try to google that error.
[17:26] <OerHeks> ammaro, i am not sure what you are asking, Guayadeque Music Player is just a musicplayer
 How please any useful link ??
[17:26] <loki__> jhutchins, it have hdd notebook inside.
[17:27] <OerHeks> ammaro, wireshark is the same as windows/mac/linux
[17:27] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, free software called ext2fsd could be of use to you
[17:27] <jhutchins> helpoo: It would be more helpful to ask about whatever application you're asking rather than asking about lubuntu.  Lubuntu is just ubuntu with the lxde desktop.
[17:27] <loki__> helgikrs3, http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10919.0
[17:28] <loki__> helpoo, first link in google for you service.
[17:28] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, http://www.ext2fsd.com should be what you need
[17:28] <squinty> loki__:  look in menu for Disks.   you should be able to mount/unmount from there
 i get the mesage when i try loging to vpn ! i already searched in google but doesnt help
[17:29] <loki__> squinty, i am not about mounting, i am about switching it off.
[17:29] <loki__> squinty, like phisical disconnect, but without need to unplug it.
[17:30] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/ actually would be better for ext4
[17:30] <jhutchins> loki__: Some physical disks have the ability to be spun down, although there is still power to the controller.
[17:31] <loki__> jhutchins, looks like i can suspend usb port drive, i will try it now.
[17:31] <jhutchins> loki__: The hdparm command may allow you to set the idle time (-I<seconds>, see the manpage for details.  You can also do udisk --detach <dev>
[17:33] <Drp_> I have 3 primary partitions (C,D,E) and a free space (50 GB) , my problem is when I try to install ubuntu i cannot select the free space!
[17:33] <loki__> jhutchins, udisk --detach? it is like detahing in gui?
[17:33] <Drp_> can you help me please?
[17:34] <loki__> Drp_, you need create main partitions if you use manual installation.
[17:34] <EIGUTKTYWV> s=asda
[17:34] <Drp_> I mean i can select it but I can't add a partition using +
[17:34] <EIGUTKTYWV> =asda
[17:34] <jhutchins> loki__: Sorry, udisks --detatch <device>
[17:34] <OerHeks> Drp_, make that free space Extended, and you'll be fine
[17:34] <jhutchins> loki__: I don't know what detatching in the GUI does, but try it, see if you can hear it spin down.
[17:35] <ammaro> 0erHeks ... I'm just having a hard time dealing with the programs and find them, but I'm trying to understand ... Thanks
[17:36] <Drp_> OerHeks, how can i do that? The problem that I cannot do any operation with that space, all buttons are disabled when i select it
[17:36] <loki__> jhutchins, i found only this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.08-21%3A36%3A16.png
[17:36] <squinty> ammaro:  https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[17:37] <OerHeks> Drp_, unmout that disk first, as a mounted disk cannot be altered
[17:39] <johncarper> Hello, i installed noip dns service on my ubuntu service and still have to update the port rule in ufw, Is "Sudo ufw allow 8245" enough to make the dns service work?
[17:39] <johncarper> or does it take more then that to allow the port so noip can sent the dns?
[17:40] <aa> swedw
[17:40] <loki__> jhutchins, when i tried poweroff drive it starts blinking, but after some time it starts blink again.
[17:40] <loki__> jhutchins, but after some time it was mounted again *
[17:40] <iulianh> hello everyone :)
[17:40] <nicklasmoeller> reisio: I'm actually using this. But it's not working as I would expect. I've given write permissions, but it stores a .tmp file alongside, removes whitespaces and yeah - no go. And when I try to delete or rename something, I need permissions from Everyone...
[17:41] <bynarie> johncarper, you dont have to modify any ports just to make dyndns work for noip
[17:41] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, did you see my messages to you?
[17:41] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, ext2read
[17:41] <belak> I have a question for someone at Canonical about the mirror I'm helping run, but there hasn't been a response in #ubuntu-mirrors and there isn't a Vanguard listed... any where else I could ask?
[17:42] <e\> (does anybody here know websmart?)
[17:42] <johncarper> so basically to test it works i can try ping my dns host?
[17:43] <vbgunz> what is the Ubuntu center application name for Kubuntu apt-get, is it software-center?
[17:43] <jojo_> hi
[17:43] <reisio> apt-get is apt-get, software-center is software-center
[17:43] <reisio> there are a couple KDE-centric apt frontends
[17:44] <bynarie> johncarper, you should be able too. You only need to modify ports if your serving something and go through a router
[17:44] <reisio> think... kpackagekit is one?
[17:44] <reisio> jojo_: hi
[17:44] <reisio> apt-cache search apt | grep -i front
[17:44] <johncarper> i will be hosting a teamspeak server soon but haven't set that up yet
[17:44] <johncarper> with the no ip dns
[17:44] <jojo_> reisio: I need help on creating a response file
[17:44] <reisio> jojo_: ?
[17:44] <bynarie> johncarper, so is your server behind a router?
[17:45] <johncarper> nop, using powerlans
[17:45] <nicklasmoeller> Oh, sorry - I just had an email to point my attention to. Will give your last link a look bynarie! I'm using the first one right now
[17:46] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, i just suggested either ext2read or ext2fs
[17:46] <Drp_> is it possible to install ubuntu if I have 3 primary partitions ?
[17:46] <OerHeks> vbgunz, kubuntu's softwarecenter is muon
[17:46] <jojo_> reisio: I  am installing a package called mq, I want to create a response file whenever it ask questions during installation.
[17:46] <nicklasmoeller> ext2fsd I've already got - I'm installing ext2read now
[17:46] <bynarie> oh ok... good
[17:46] <vbgunz> OerHeks: yes but it does not have access to some apps that Ubuntu's software center has access too
[17:46] <bynarie> i dont think the ext2fsd supports ext4, only 2/3
[17:46] <vbgunz> trying to get the Plex media server
[17:47] <reisio> jojo_: like with 'expect'?
[17:48] <OerHeks> vbgunz, ubuntu does not provide Plex media server, it is external
[17:48] <bynarie> johncarper, basically you need to either A)install the client software for dyndns on the server or B) configure your router to connect to it for host updating... Then you need to setup port forwarding for the servers port you need opened, IF you are behind a firewall or NAT
[17:48] <johncarper> alright thanks
[17:48] <bynarie> no problem
[17:48] <johncarper> i just tested host (dns host name) and it redricted to my real ip
[17:48] <johncarper> so that's good :)
[17:49] <bynarie> yea
[17:49] <bynarie> getting that part to work has nothing to do with ports
[17:49] <johncarper> i see
[17:50] <Turingii> I had a computer with 4GB of RAM and replaced it with one with 8GB but still used the same old hard disks. For some reason, top/htop show that I only have 4GB of RAM (3.8GB or something) and about the same amount of 'swap'. I have ubuntu for 64bits installed so it shouldn't be an issue with that. uname -a shows "Linux akiraa 3.13.0-36-generic #63-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 3 21:30:07 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[17:51] <OerHeks> Turingii, does your bios see 8 Gb?
[17:51] <bynarie> johncarper, say if you have 4 PCs behind NAT/router. When someone outside of your network tries to connect to your public IP on port X, the router wont know what to do unless you setup a port forward to that specific PC on your network
[17:51] <Turingii> OerHeks: yes
[17:51] <nicklasmoeller> Seems like it bynarie. Though ext2read makes you save the folder as a copy before use, and I don't think you can write back again
[17:51] <johncarper> ah
[17:52] <OerHeks> Turingii, what motherboard is it? some are limited to 4 gb
[17:52] <Turingii> OerEks: I had swap configured to use about 2GB of hard disk space. When ubuntu booted for the first time it told me that it couldn't find some partitions and offered to 'autodetect' them
[17:52] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, yea you basically have to "download" them
[17:52] <johncarper> i'm pretty new to all this stuff, but i'm having alot of fun so far
[17:52] <Turingii> OerHeks: my motherboard has a 16gb limit of ram
[17:52] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, http://www.paragon-software.com/home/extfs-windows/
[17:52] <bynarie> maybe that would work?
[17:53] <Turingii> OerHeks: I'd hate to have to reinstall ubuntu so it autodetects my new hardware properly and reconstructs the partition table accordingly
[17:53] <Turingii> OerHeks: for some reason, it's grabbing about half the ram for swapspace which it doesn't actually use
[17:53] <OerHeks> Turingii, you shouldn't need to reinstall, what does 'free' tell you?
[17:54] <bynarie> Turingii, i wouldnt think harddrive partitions have anything to do with ram
[17:54] <loki__> Tried zfs on ubuntu, it is some kind next level stuff... Thought about moving to zfs totally. Somebody tried something like this?
[17:55] <loki__> Turingii, paste your dmesg.
[17:55] <Turingii> OerHeks: this is the top part of 'top' http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WUT9xgpg
[17:55] <Quantumpants> hi guys, my keyboard keys seem to by slightly out of sink, any advice??
[17:56] <reisio> Quantumpants: out of sync?
[17:56] <nicklasmoeller> bynarie: looks promising, am installing
[17:56] <Turingii> loki__, bynarie, OerHeks: this is my dmesg http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Px6s0VHn
[17:56] <bynarie> awesome.. let me know how it works out
[17:56] <jhutchins> loki__: Thanks for asking about spindown, btw.  It prompted me to set the spindown times on a couple of drives I use that needed it.
 hi, will]
[17:56] <jhutchins> loki__: I configured them in the hdparm.conf file, which has a man page.
 well it seems that some of the symbles are in the wrong place
[17:57] <reisio> how so...
 for example the @ key in where the " key should be
[17:58] <Turingii> bynarie: well, it could generate new hard disk UUIDs with a new system, I remember Fedora relying on them (or rather, failing to re-detect when something like boot order changes, since that changes the UUIDs)
[17:58] <loki__> jhutchins, lol. np. but i need total poweroff somehow... i think my usb drive failing for some reason, and want prolong his life, looks like better to do phisical plug off
[17:58] <nicklasmoeller> will give it a reboot - seems it not loading right now. be back :)
[17:59] <reisio> Quantumpants: okay, so you probably have the wrong keymap set
 ok, how do i change it?
[18:00] <reisio> Quantumpants: what does 'setxkbmap -query' say?
 hold on....
[18:00] <chaotix> hi.  how can i hide a computer on my local network in ubuntu/linux?
[18:00] <jhutchins> loki__: hdparm -Y <device> should put it in the lowest power state.  hdparm -C <device> will tell you what state it's in.  hdparm -S will set the spindown timeout, but it has a special format, read the manpage.
[18:00] <rubiksmomo> Any idea why my deja-dup backup app stopped working? It worked fine for a week. Now it's asking for encryption password when it tries to run a backup. It just keeps asking, even if I input the correct one.
[18:00] <jhutchins> loki__: If it's failing, spinning it down will probably not help.
[18:01] <loki__> jhutchins, yea, that's what i am talking about.
 us, gb
[18:01] <reisio> Quantumpants: pardon?
 the layout is us, gb
 "us, gb"
[18:02] <johncarper> if i installed a package with  "tar xzf teamspeak3-server_linux-amd64-3.0.10.3.tar.gz" for example
[18:02] <johncarper> what would be the best way to remove it again
[18:02] <jhutchins> Turingii: What kernel do you have installed?
[18:03] <loki__> Turingii, for some reason it is not get 8gb of ram Memory: 3685680K/3914996K available (7373K kernel code, 1144K rwdata, 3404K rodata, 1336K init, 1440K bss, 229316K reserved)
[18:03] <loki__> Turingii, try 64bit livecd
[18:03] <bynarie> johncarper, tar doesnt actually "install" anything, it just extracts it... like when you unzip a zip file
[18:04] <johncarper> i used xzf on the tar
[18:04] <johncarper> that installs it, doesn't it?
[18:04] <johncarper> or just extracts
[18:04] <NegativeFlare> that just extracts it
[18:04] <jhutchins> johncarper: x=extract z=decompress f=fromfile
[18:04] <johncarper> oh
[18:05] <johncarper> so if i just go to the directory i extracted it
[18:05] <johncarper> and remove that directory it should be gone
[18:05] <johncarper> if i'm correct
[18:05] <jhutchins> johncarper: manpages can be very helpful with options.
[18:05] <jhutchins> johncarper: Correct.
[18:05] <bynarie> johncarper, yes
[18:05] <johncarper> ok, thanks
[18:05] <bynarie> just delete them
[18:06] <bynarie> TAR is an archiving tool.. Now on the other hand, apt-get install is an installer
[18:06] <rubiksmomo> What's wrong with my deja-dup backup app? It worked fine for a week. Now it's asking for encryption password when it tries to run a backup. It just keeps asking, even if I input the correct one.
[18:07] <vbgunz> OerHeks: that's crummy, Ubuntu pitched it like they had it. Thanks!
[18:09] <Guest9650> Evening All! Does anyone have a few minutes to help me with a missing network indicator in Unity?
[18:09] <nicklasmoeller> bynarie: I tried to delete a folder - got BSOD (damn windows!). And then I deleted a file - extFS stopped working, but the file seemed to delete, although the partition unmounted
[18:09] <nicklasmoeller> and now it seems unable to mount
[18:10] <Capprentice> Is there a Firewall GUI which can show or block application level Connections? I want something like Comodo Firewall on Windows! :/
[18:11] <bynarie> nicklasmoeller, i assume you rebooted and loaded up linux and thats where it wont mount?
[18:12] <Capprentice> umm? :'(
[18:12] <russellbri> Ubuntu has the 'Uncomplicated Fire Wall' (ufw) installed by default. A GUI for it seems to be at http://gufw.org/
[18:12] <Drp_> I have 4 primary partitions and a free space (50GB), i want to install ubuntu in that free space, any suggesions please?
[18:12] <Drp_> should i convert 1 primary partition to logical ?
[18:13] <Capprentice> GUFW has no feature to show/block live connections! @ russellbri
[18:13] <Turingii> jhutchins: uname -a gives "Linux Akiraa 3.13.0-36-generic #63-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 3 21:30:07 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[18:14] <Capprentice> Has no one ever made something, what I seek!
[18:14] <Capprentice> ?
[18:14] <russellbri> ah fair enough. In that case I don't know, soz :)
[18:14] <nicklasmoeller> No - it's working perfectly in linux (I believe it still do) - After the BSOD I rebooted, and mounted, and tried to delete a single file. It stopped working, and now I'm stuck with a mounted F drive, which I have no access to, or no real view of that the partition is mounted to F (says mounted in extFS, but unable to mount after unmount - and when I close and open extFS it's like it's mounted
[18:15] <Turingii> "<loki__> Turingii, try 64bit livecd"  What would I do with the livecd?
[18:16] <russellbri> This looks pretty good, but isn't actively developed any more apparently: http://www.fs-security.com/ @ Capprentice
[18:17] <reisio> if you care that much about security, you don't even have a GUI
[18:17] <loki__> Turingii, boot without installation, and checkout your memory.
[18:17] <nicklasmoeller> going to try things out.. be back i believe
[18:17] <Turingii> loki__: could I just run the installer just up to the point of partition assignment, write changes to partition table and potentially fstab, then cancel and reboot off the hard disk?
[18:18] <Turingii> loki__: could it accidentally try to allocate swap to temp-fs which resides in ram?
[18:18] <loki__> Turingii, i thought your main problem is memory.
[18:18] <loki__> Turingii, i do not think so.
[18:18] <russellbri> So doe anyone have any ideas about a missing network indicator in unity? Killing and restarting nm-applet doesn;t seem to help, and i've reinstalled network-manager and network-manager-gnome to no avail. Most frustrating as I am lothed to reinstall just for the network indicator :(
[18:18] <Turingii> loki__: yes, but swap space is supposed to be just 2gb allocated off the hard disk, not 4gb
[18:19] <Turingii> loki__: so swap has nothing to do with it, you think?
[18:19] <loki__> Turingii, i had problems whith swap sometimes, all i do just recreate it. there is problem can be. swap goes encrypted as i remember.
[18:21] <Turingii> loki__: also tried this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=810baxNs (lshw -class memory)
[18:21] <Capprentice> russellbri, I have that,  but its old and even it do not have the application blocking function.
[18:22] <Turingii> loki__: it sees the two sticks of ram just fine
[18:22] <loki__> Turingii, then you 100% go to try livecd.
[18:22] <Turingii> loki__: will check back after that
[18:23] <jhutchins> Turingii: Your kernel should be able to see the full RAM.
[18:23] <jhutchins> Turingii: Swap in ram is wrongheaded.
[18:25] <trijntje> jhutchins: not if you compress the swap in RAM
[18:25] <reisio> not if you have gobs of ram
[18:25] <jhutchins> trijntje: Still very wrong.  The whole point of swap is to extend RAM.
[18:25] <reisio> to extend ram because you don't have enough of it...
[18:26] <jhutchins> Either you put swap on a non-RAM device or you disable it.
[18:26] <reisio> although there is certainly an argument to just disable it and fix swappiness, yarp
[18:26] <jhutchins> (Just don't set it up.)
[18:26] <OerHeks> so the bios sees 8 gb, but your system shows 3.8, my best guess is that motherboard does not support over 4 gb.
[18:26] <trijntje> jhutchins: its not wrong. It allows you to trade cpu cycles for RAM, which is a good trade off on most desktop machines
[18:26] <Turingii> my swap is like a government program, its existance creates a need for it
[18:26] <teddy_> does any one knows why after editing a sys file a file.~ appear??
[18:26] <reisio> teddy_: it's your editor's backup/swap file
[18:26] <OerHeks> Turingii, again, what motherboard is it?
[18:26] <reisio> teddy_: check prefs
[18:26] <jhutchins> OerHeks: If the bios sees it, it supports it, something is playing tricks on the system.
[18:27] <jhutchins> Turingii: have you tried memtest?
[18:27] <OerHeks> jhutchins, no, i have seen this before.
[18:27] <jhutchins> OerHeks: The system sees two 4GB DIMMs.
[18:27] <jhutchins> Turingii: does "free" see the 8G?
[18:27] <derjur> adding "manual" to /etc/init/nginx.override doesn't seem to work.  what's the best practice to defer a service from starting at boot?
[18:27] <Turingii> OerHeks: asrock 960GC-GS FX
[18:27] <Turingii> jhutchins: memtest see the entire memory just fine
[18:28] <Turingii> OerHeks: actually, the motherboard can use ddr2 and ddr3, but only with a cpu can support either, respectively
[18:28] <Turingii> OerHeks: the mobo limit is 4GB DDR2 and 16GB DDR3
[18:29] <OerHeks> Turingii, both memorybanks are ddr2 ?
[18:29] <sheap> how do I stop apt from bailing out during install when I select the ubuntu-desktop and the xubuntu-desktop? xubuntu has a newer version of a gtk package which isn't in the default trusty repos and apt cries and quits the install because of it :|
[18:31] <jhutchins> Turingii: WHat's the CPU Chipset?
[18:32] <bekks> sheap: can you pastebin what apt cries please?
[18:32] <bynarie> lol @ bekks
[18:32] <sheap> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8522413/
[18:32] <sheap> bekks: v 1 is in trusty
[18:33] <sheap> bekks: v 1.1 is in xubuntu and trusty-updates, but trusty-updates isn't being used right now
[18:33] <bekks> sheap: Can you pastebin the entire output please, not just five lines? :)
[18:33] <jhutchins> Turingii: I don't suppose it's allocated 4GB to video ram?
[18:33] <sheap> bekks: sensitive data :|
[18:33] <Turingii> OerHeks: there are 2 DDR2 banks and 2 DDR3 banks, I am currently using the DDR3 memory (the CPU actually doesn't work with DDR2)
[18:34] <bekks> sheap: There is no sensitive data in apt error messages.
[18:34] <jhutchins> Turingii: Might be a good idea to check for a BIOS update.
[18:34] <Turingii> jhutchins: hm... it has a discrete GPU so that should not be the case
[18:34] <sheap> bekks: that's the error line :)
[18:34] <Turingii> jhutchins: bios is up to date and latest version
[18:34] <jhutchins> Turingii: Does it have an embedded one as well?
[18:34] <bekks> sheap: There is no sensitive data in the entire apt output.
[18:34] <sheap> bekks: that's the error line :)
[18:34] <Turingii> jhutchins: yes, there is an onboard gpu, not connected to any monitor though
[18:34] <OerHeks> Turingii, so that pastebin is showing ddr2, and you are using ddr3 ....
[18:35] <bekks> Thats not the full output. Pastebin it please.
[18:35] <Turingii> jhutchins: and two screens hanging off the discrete gpu
[18:35] <russellbri> OK found a workaround for missing network indicator. System Settings -> Network (a pretty nice UI I didn't know was there!) That'll do untill hopefully a future update will fix it :)
 Ahhh probably i was using gedit for a quick change
[18:35] <Turingii> OerHeks: oh, interesting
[18:35] <russellbri> Have a good evening all :)
[18:35] <Turingii> OerHeks: there are definitely two sticks of DDR3 in it
[18:36] <OerHeks> Turingii, as bank1 does not say ddr2, i wonder if you have put ddr3 there ... lots of mystery
[18:36] <Turingii> OerHeks: you can't put DDR3 sticks in DDR2 slots
[18:37] <derjur> how do i disable nginx autostart in trusty?  (tried echo "manual" >> /etc/init/nginx.override)
[18:37] <jhutchins> Turingii: The MB could be allocating the memory to the onboard gpu even if it's not in use.
[18:38] <cobracommand> just curious, what major feature are you using in 14.04 that you weren't using in 12.04?
[18:38] <squinty>  russel
[18:39] <reisio> cobracommand: contemporaneousness
[18:40] <cobracommand> reisio: what?
[18:40] <bynarie> YAY: current kernel now is 3.17
[18:40] <bynarie> woohoo!
[18:41] <bynarie> d
[18:43] <gompa> on 14.10 libvirt keeps asking for a password when trying to connect to ssh+qemu (and the server receives the wrong password) but iam 100% sure iam using the right password ( i can login with it over virsh) anyone else having this problem ?
[18:43] <koke> exit
[18:43] <OerHeks> gompa, join #ubuntu+1 for utopic help untill release
[18:43] <jhutchins> Turingii: You might try different kernels, different live CDs would make that easy.  REsearch your chipset on google.
[18:44] <bynarie> Turingii, the new kernel of 3.17 is avail now.. maybe update and try it
[18:46] <gompa> oerheks i tought of asking it here too couse the target ( the host running qemu is a 14.04 server)
[18:46] <OerHeks> bynarie, really, update?
[18:48] <Gabi> how can i run or move a file named -file
[18:48] <Gabi> with - infront
[18:50] <OerHeks> Gabi use mv "-file" /path/to/destination # i wonder how you get a - in your filename
[18:51] <reisio> Gabi: mv --
[18:51] <Gabi> its saying mv: invalid option -- 's'
[18:52] <reisio> you said it was named '-file', not '-sOMETHING'!
[18:52] <reisio> YOU LIED TO ME
[18:52] <Gabi> :P
[18:53] <Gabi> how can be that different
[18:54] <reisio> Gabi: hrmm?
[18:54] <killjews> sieg HEIL
[18:54] <killjews> SIEG
[18:54] <killjews> HEIL
[18:55] <Gabi> im trying to rename a file named "-sharp" so i can run it
[18:55] <reisio> yarp
[18:55] <reisio> Gabi: as I said, mv -- -sharp foo
[18:55] <OerHeks> !ops | killjews
[18:56] <killjews> SIEG
[18:56] <phunyguy> heh
[18:57] <Gabi> and if i want to run the file directly with -
[18:57] <Gabi> its that possible ?
[18:57] <reisio> Gabi: do what?
[18:57] <Gabi> run the -sharp file
[18:57] <Gabi> ./-sharp doenst work
[18:57] <OerHeks> Gabi why does that file have such a name
[18:57] <Gabi> protection by author . dunno
[18:58] <Wollie88> Gabi, If posible why not rename it
[18:58] <reisio> Gabi: chmod +x
[18:58] <eeee> ^^
[19:00] <Wollie88> reisio, he wants to move it, why would you want to make it executable
[19:00] <eeee> Wollie88: he wants to run it
[19:00] <Wollie88> eeee, sorry i misread
[19:01] <Wollie88> eeee, sorry thought he wanted to move it
[19:07] <david38400> can anyone please tell me how to the get Pounds Sterling Symbol on my keybardo?
[19:07] <david38400> hello
[19:07] <phunyguy> patience.
[19:07] <billyzed_> is it me you're looking for?
[19:09] <bekks> billyzed_: You arent Lionel Richie ;)
[19:09] <billyzed_> on the internet, you can be whoever you dream
[19:10] <david38400> Does anyone know how to find the symbol for the Pound Sterling please?
[19:11] <martijn_> Hold down the Alt key, on the numerical keypad press 0163, then release the Alt key.
[19:12] <reisio> david38400: CTRL+SHIFT+u, a3, ENTER
[19:15] <helpmeplease2> Hi All, Appreciated that this isn't the correct channel to go to however could someone please point me in the direction of a channel that provides support for mental health, and no I'm not trolling
[19:16] <OerHeks> !alis
[19:17] <david38400> reisio, did that any my keyboard doesnt work, had to use an old one with usb instead of wireless. What happened?
[19:17] <david38400> Any way I can reset the keyboard please?
[19:18] <david38400> reisio: I did ctrl+shift+u, a3, enter and my keyboard doesnt work
[19:18] <david38400> How can I reset the keyboard ??? ANY HELP PLEASE
[19:19] <david38400> Can anyone help please: My wireless keyboard needs resetting how can I do it
[19:21] <liquidcandy> Hi, I've been having problems with a broadcom wireless card and have tried everything I know to do to fix the problem. I need someone who is willing to walk my through this until the problem is fixed. Please don't give me links (I've read the main ones and tried their solns already). Is there anyone who will walk through this with me?
[19:24] <genii> liquidcandy: Did you already try the link provided by the bot's !broadcom factoid?
[19:25] <liquidcandy> genii: which is that?
[19:25] <genii> !broadcom | liquidcandy
[19:26] <hero1> Need help
[19:27] <genii> hero1: Details might help.
[19:27] <hero1> Just accidentally delete my ubuntu and merge the memory  partition given to ubuntu to main memory
[19:28] <hero1> Now after restarting my pc grub is coming
[19:28] <hero1> Now what should i do
[19:28] <hero1> ?
[19:28] <hero1> Genii
[19:29] <liquidcandy> that's one of em, yes. Last night I was innundated with links, I've tried multiple drivers linux-firmware-nonfree, bcmwl-kernel-source, broadcom-sta, b43-fwcutter, and firmware-b43-installer. Only the last of which seems to make any progress but the progress is decieving bc
[19:29] <genii> hero1: By "memory partition" do you mean hard drive partition?
[19:29] <bekks> hero1: Either restore your backup or reinstall your computer from a cd.
[19:29] <liquidcandy> well it's seems to be erattic behavior
[19:29] <liquidcandy> I'm sick of it
[19:29] <Bashing-om> hero1: "accidentally delete my ubuntu" do you mena that the operating system no longer exists to boot up ?
[19:29] <genii> liquidcandy: Unfortunately most of the Broadcoms are utterly craptastic
[19:30] <hero1> Bashing-om : yeah
[19:31] <hero1> Genii: yeah hard disk
[19:31] <Bashing-om> hero1: OK, so what is your end goal ?
[19:31] <hero1> Just wannt my cousin laptop working
[19:31] <liquidcandy> genii: Tell me aboiut it. I've owned 2 other laptops in the past that had it, I worked the steps and they worked fine. This pos lappy I have now doesn't even work when I follow the steps. I'm totally out of steam on this
[19:31] <hero1> Condition
[19:31] <hero1> Bashing-om
[19:32] <genii> hero1: From your description, a re-install seems the best
[19:32] <dine909> intel video drivers on 14.04 someone kill me
[19:32] <hero1> Ok...let me try this
[19:32] <liquidcandy> Not only is my problem the bcm card but I happen to have acquired a Pavillion dv6000 (circa 2007). If there is a worse lappy for linux I don't know of it.
[19:32] <hero1> Tjx
[19:32] <hero1> Thx
[19:32] <Bashing-om> hero1: As the OS has been removed, the final solution is - as advised - (re-)install .. IF there is data to be recovered -> 1st approximation is "testdisk" .
[19:33] <genii> liquidcandy: I think if I were you, I'd find out what kind of slot the adapter is in, and purchase something cheap that works , to swap out for.
[19:33] <hero1> Bashing-om : testdisk
[19:34] <hero1> ??
[19:34] <hero1> I dont wana data recoverd
[19:34] <Bashing-om> hero1: Testdisk, to try and recover data.
[19:34] <hero1> Just want my sister laptop in working condition
[19:34] <NotreDev> how could i reformat / stylize a bunch of html files … e.g. for i in $(…); do what?; done
[19:34] <eeee> hero1: it was your cousin's a min ago :P
[19:35] <Bashing-om> hero1: Then, just install ubuntu.
[19:35] <bekks> NotreDev: for file in *.html; do ...; done
[19:35] <eeee> hero1: when you say accidentally removed, do you mean just the partition table ? you deleted the partition entry?
[19:35] <NotreDev> bekks: yeah i got that… but i’m looking for help on the formatting bit of it
[19:35] <NotreDev> not the loop part :)
[19:36] <hero1> Eeee:  in my religion we just call brother and sister not cousion
[19:36] <hero1> eeee: yes...i deleted it
[19:36] <Bashing-om> hero1: is ubuntu to be the -only- operating system on the computer in quesstion ?
[19:36] <eeee> ok, you can probably recover the partition using testdisk
[19:37] <eeee> hero1: you can boot a liveusb and get the partition entry back, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[19:37] <hero1> Linuxmint and win 8 also
[19:38] <Bashing-om> hero1: eeee ^^ is the guru of testdisk.
[19:38] <bekks> NotreDev: Then you have to explain what "formating" means in that context. What do you want to do actually?
[19:38] <hero1> Finally Its working guys .....thx
[19:39] <Bashing-om> her
[19:39] <NotreDev> i think it’s pretty straightforward actually. your response had nothing to do with formatting. you reiterated the bash for loop that i’d stated. i’m looking for input on a formatter for html files. for example, html tidy
[19:39] <Bashing-om> hero1: :)
[19:44] <NGC3982> Oh hai.
[19:44] <cyberdine> Ok guys, looking for seriouse answers to a very seriouse life problem.... someties the best solution is to throw the problem in a think tank and see what comes out the other end....
[19:44] <cyberdine> life and death may depend on what answers I get today
[19:45] <Jordan_U> cyberdine: Unless the question is an Ubuntu support question, you should find a more appropriate channel. Possibly #ubuntu-offtopic.
[19:45] <zimbres> cyberdine, are you going to the doctor?
[19:46] <Tex_Nick> I have a bunch of AV files on one of my LAN box's ... I've set up a launcher on another user's LAN box (nautilus sftp://userName@nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/media/userName/directory) ... this provides a good interface for the client user ... except user would like to use nautilus search sometimes, which seems to crash the sftp connection ... have googled this for a couple weeks with no solution
[19:46] <cyberdine> I am a COMPLETE dependant living up in the seria nevada mountains.... I have gran mal siezure disorders many other health related issues and am now having the mat pulled out from onder me.
[19:46] <daftykins> Tex_Nick: use a proper file system mount instead
[19:46] <cyberdine> I have nobody to go to, no friends, no family... I;'ve been well cut off from the world for several tears now
[19:46] <cyberdine> *years
[19:46] <Jordan_U> cyberdine: That doesn't sound like an Ubuntu support question. While I sympathise, this is the wrong channel for this discussion.
[19:47] <cyberdine> I'm on ubuntu?
[19:47] <cyberdine> lol
[19:47] <daftykins> not good enough.
[19:47] <daftykins> take it elsewhere
[19:47] <cyberdine> their 1300 people here cmon lol
[19:47] <cyberdine> 1700 lol
[19:47] <daftykins> !ot
[19:47] <cyberdine> I'm def new to ubuntu
[19:47] <Jordan_U> cyberdine: All the more reason to keep out offtopic chatter.
[19:47] <cyberdine> first time using it was yesterday
[19:48] <cyberdine> So, then were should I take it?
[19:48] <Jordan_U> cyberdine: #ubuntu-offtopic is one option.
[19:48] <cyberdine> so....
[19:48] <Tex_Nick> daftykins: thanks for repla, but you please provide a bit more info ... I don't need to be walked thru step by step ... just pointed in a good direction
[19:48] <Tex_Nick> reply*
[19:48] <genii> cyberdine: To change channels:  /join #channelname
[19:49] <dine909> is there a trick to getting an ivy bridge i3's hd4000 video drivers working correctly? i have really poor performance in opengl
[19:49] <daftykins> Tex_Nick: what OSs between these hosts?
[19:49] <dine909> on 14.04
[19:49] <daftykins> Tex_Nick: they're on a local LAN together, too?
[19:49] <Tex_Nick> daftykins: yeah both on local LAN ... ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <daftykins> Tex_Nick: look into NFS and samba
[19:51] <Tex_Nick> daftykins: samba :((( ... ok sir that might be what I have to do ... hey thanks for reply
[19:57] <smart_developer> What does it mean when you get a message saying that "rsyslogd was HUPed" ??
[19:57] <smart_developer> :)
[19:58] <sunkist> After studying `man hier' on ubuntu, I determined that my custom compiled binaries ought to install there.  But I am writing some interpreted code for deployment on ubuntu that is broken into many files.  Should I copy them all to /usr/local/bin ?  Should I just symlink to the main program and put all the files in /opt?
[19:59] <guntbert> smart_developer: you probably type something like    sudo service rsyslog reload   , which sent a signal  "SIGHUP" (was once HangUp) to let it relaod its settings
[19:59] <Pici> sunkist: That sounds logical to me, and what I do with my stuff. Then again, I do do much stuff with binaries.
[20:00] <IRBIS> Hi all, help to solve the problem with the Animations Add-It's like you can get it back, OS 14.04.1
[20:00] <sunkist> 300
[20:02] <sunkist> Thanks Pici.  I know that some files in /usr/bin are scripts instead of binaries.  Stuff like update-rc.d or start-stop-daemon...
[20:02] <IRBIS> So do not who do not know where this package?
[20:03] <sunkist> Pici: but those scripts are mostly monolithic and don't need a bunch of includes besides a single common system bash include.
[20:03] <smart_developer> guntbert : what's the difference between "service rsyslog restart", and "service rsyslog reload" ??
[20:03] <mrflibbl2> hi guys, I'd like to swap the operation of "Super+w" and "Super", so that just pressing "Super" brings up the window spread. Any idea how I change the key bindings?
[20:04] <sunkist> None of my stuff is system essential like that so I can't just put my files in the same place.
[20:04] <Pici> smart_developer: Typically, reload means to keep the process running but to reprocesses the config files. Restart actually restarts the daemon.  Not all services make a distinction between the two.
[20:06] <guntbert> smart_developer: restart consists of   stop; start    - reload keeps the service running, just lets it reread its config (of course it depends on the service, which signals cause what)
[20:06] <IRBIS> So that no one will help solve the problem?
[20:07] <guntbert> !patience | IRBIS
[20:07] <yanick> hi, I am puzzled about Lubuntu; I have downloaded the amd64 ISO, installed it on this 64-bit machine and, yet, "uname -a" says it's x86_64. I have installed VirtualBox, but I cannot create a 64-bit machine. ... is Lubuntu 64-bit or not?
[20:07] <Pici> IRBIS: Can you rephrase your question? I'm not sure what you are trying to ask.
[20:07] <zykotick9> IRBIS: to be honest, i "personally" have no idea what your issue is...  if english is not your 1st language, perhaps you should try another channel?
[20:07] <charettes> Was there any report of high CPU usage on 14.04 in the past few days? I just did my daily update and now I have one of my two core always using 100%...
[20:08] <eeee> charettes: which processes?
[20:09] <mrflibbl2> yanick: could it be your chipset doesn't support virtualization properly?
[20:09] <charettes> eeee: it doesn't show up using top, it looks like something is happening at the kernel level :/
[20:09] <mrflibbl2> I don't know a great deal about VirtualBox, but some virtualisation software (eg, Hyper V) depend on the CPU supporting the virtualisation extensions
[20:10] <mrflibbl2> could this be the problem?
[20:10] <yanick> mrflibbl2, that's possible. It's some recycled old laptop. But that'd be the first time I get this "issue" with VBox
[20:10] <mrflibbl2> oh ok
[20:11] <charettes> eeee: is there a way to diagnose kernel level processes?
[20:11] <yanick> mrflibbl2, still, why VBox could not create a 64-bit VM under a 64-bit env?
[20:11] <zykotick9> yanick: you might want to ask in #vbox
[20:11] <mrflibbl2> good question
[20:12] <arrowsatanas> Where can you change the hello tune. Good evening, dear Ubuntu Community
[20:12] <charettes> I guess I'll try rebooting with an old kernel and see what happens...
[20:12] <eeee> charettes: no idea
[20:13] <yanick> alright
[20:13] <mrflibbl2> yanick: https://communities.vmware.com/thread/440322
[20:13] <IRBIS> Sorry for my english I have a problem associated with сopizom, no animations add in ubuntu 14.04, in Google too dull. who have experienced this.
[20:13] <IRBIS> Yes, in another channel I can not there are no people.
[20:13] <mrflibbl2> i know it's vmware, but it's a similar problem
[20:13] <IRBIS> compiz
[20:14] <arrowsatanas> In the system configuration I was not able to find.
[20:14] <mrflibbl2> yanick: i guess the other thing is it could be a bios settings
[20:14] <yanick> mrflibbl2, yeah, I just thought I'd go check right now :)
[20:14] <mrflibbl2> I know it was disabled on my new laptop for some reason. I had to enable VT-X specifically
[20:15] <mrflibbl2> maybe due to power useage? i have no idea why, seems a bit silly, as it doesn't normally affect non-VM software as far as I can tell
[20:16] <chasse21611> Hello, I am 59 dad and have a 10 year old daughter.  We are looking to install Ubuntu on our computer.  if we need help will someone here be able  here  be able to help us.  We also are going to get a book or two from the library.
[20:16] <arrowsatanas> please can someone explain how I can change the hello tune at startup
[20:16] <eeee> arrowsatanas: sudo apt-get install dconf-editor
[20:17] <arrowsatanas> thanks
[20:17] <IRBIS> Куда делось сгорание окон огнем в убунту 14,04
[20:17] <eeee> arrowsatanas: then com > canonical > unity-greeter
[20:17] <IRBIS> Where did the fire burn windows in Ubuntu 14.04
[20:18] <zykotick9> chasse21611: i don't think anyone here has a working crystalball for seeing the future... but "maybe"...
[20:18] <eeee> arrowsatanas: not sure if you can change it from there though, just checked and it says enable sound or not
[20:18] <guntbert> chasse21611: you will probably not get someone to accompany the whole process - but if you have specific problems just ask
[20:18] <eeee> arrowsatanas: pretty sure you could change the actual file that gets played though
[20:18] <arrowsatanas> It is probably a lock file to the specified directory can not be accessed. Is there any other solution other than apt-get?
[20:19] <IRBIS> Where did the fire burn windows in Ubuntu 14.04
[20:19] <eeee> arrowsatanas: do you want to turn it off?
[20:19] <eeee> you can use gsettings
[20:19] <eeee> hold on
[20:19] <mrflibbl2> arrowsatanas: i think all the sound files are here: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[20:20] <arrowsatanas> No, at the login screen. So after startup
[20:20] <eeee> arrowsatanas: gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter play-ready-sound false
[20:20] <eeee> that's for the login sound i think, when lightdm appears
[20:21] <mrflibbl2> arrowsatanas: i think that's the "system ready" sound
[20:21] <arrowsatanas> No scheme found
[20:22] <eeee> yup i found the sound as mrflibbl2 suggested
[20:22] <arrowsatanas> In which directory do I have to see
[20:22] <mrflibbl2> on mine, system ready is a link to dialog-question
[20:22] <eeee> /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg
[20:23] <mrflibbl2> kind of "bongo drums" sound for me
[20:23] <yanick> mrflibbl2, seems like I'm in no luck. The CPU does support VT-x, but Acer was lazy and put a dumb Phoenex BIOS in there, thus no VT options.
[20:23] <eeee> yeah same here
[20:23] <yanick> mrflibbl2, thank you though
[20:23] <mrflibbl2> :( arse
[20:24] <sefai> hi all
[20:24] <IRBIS> Where additional animations in compiz?
[20:24] <arrowsatanas> Path not on my system, at least not in that order
[20:24] <ubu00> hi, how can I decrypt my HOME on my old-HDD, I remember the password but not the passphrase?
[20:25] <eeee> arrowsatanas: are you on ubuntu 14.04?
[20:25] <arrowsatanas> yes
[20:26] <zykotick9> IRBIS: historically, NO idea if it's current, the Burn-effect was included in compiz-plugins-extra
[20:27] <arrowsatanas> I have connected different media, even when disconnect is not the terminal path.
[20:28] <IRBIS> How to get it back, if removed
[20:28] <arrowsatanas> Is not there like a directory tree in Linux?
[20:29] <zykotick9> IRBIS: is compiz-pluginx-extra installed?  if not, install it...
[20:29] <genii> !fhs | arrowsatanas Yep.
[20:30] <arrowsatanas> ubottu kannst du deutsch?
[20:30] <Pici> !de | arrowsatanas
[20:31] <mrflibbl2> arrowsatanas: you mean on the command line?
[20:31] <IRBIS> все установлено , а модуля нет
[20:31] <IRBIS> everything installed, and no module
[20:31] <rubiksmomo> What's wrong with my deja-dup backup app? It worked fine for a week. Now it's asking for encryption password when it tries to run a backup. It just keeps asking, even if I input the correct one.
[20:31] <chasse21611> I understand that you can not stand here and tell us things but if we have a question we can try here
[20:32] <Jordan_U> chasse21611: Yes, you can always try here and we'll do the best we can to help :)
[20:33] <chasse21611> thank you for the help, bye
[20:33] <Bashing-om> chasse21611: IF ubuntu is to be the only operating system on the box, the process is very simple.
[20:34] <Jordan_U> chasse21611: You're welcome.
[20:34] <at_work> I'm using virt-manager on 14.04, normally the view snapshots feature is available in the gui.  In my case it is grayed out.  Any suggestions as to the cause?
[20:34] <arrowsatanas> no i search the folder
[20:34] <bynarie> Is a linux shell script similar in a way to a batch file on windows? Just term commands shoved into a file???
[20:34] <arrowsatanas> in german support is no a guy
[20:34] <zykotick9> bynarie: yes
[20:34] <bynarie> thank u
[20:35] <ubu00> done: "# ecryptfs-recover-private"
[20:35] <okay> is there any way that one can view the live code the os is running in the background?
[20:36] <IRBIS> I so understood that the method further animation does not to return?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> bynarie: Yes, though bash has many more programming features than cmd.exe does, and so while a bash script can be as simple as a list of commands it can also be much more complex.
[20:36] <zykotick9> ubu00: honestly, encrypted-home is kinda weak IMO...  i'd use FDE via LUKS if encryption is important to you, but YMMV.  best of luck.
[20:37] <bynarie> ok
[20:37] <ubu00> zykotick9, indeed, that was  my old HDD. My new one is fully encrypted with LUKS
[20:37] <Turingi> OerHeks, jhutchins, bynarie, loki__: well, after booting into the ubuntu liveCD it saw the 8GB of memory, then rebooting normally saw the installed Ubuntu recognize the memory too. Thanks for the assist, though I have no idea how things got solved :)
[20:38] <loki__> Turingi, lol.
[20:38] <bynarie> awesome!
[20:38] <caskaid> Anyone familiar with openshot on Ubuntu here?
[20:38] <IRBIS> I probably never will learn the rules is not your English .私はおそらくあなたの英語でないルールを学習しませんでし...
[20:38] <bynarie> Turingi, youve been working that issue for a while now!
[20:38] <IRBIS> Нал всем пока )
[20:38] <IRBIS> Лан*
[20:39] <eeee> caskaid: i've tried it once
[20:39] <loki__> IRBIS, поке.
[20:39] <caskaid> eeee, gotcha.. I'm looking for help resolving a constant segfault issue
[20:40] <caskaid> eeee, was trying to find someone that had an answer
[20:40] <eeee> oh ok
[20:40] <ubu00> zykotick9, btw, is FDE not important to someone? ;)
[20:40] <zykotick9> ubu00: it's not important to anyone who doesn't care about securing powered-off machines ;)
[20:43] <ubu00> zykotick9, lol
[20:46] <bisu_>  !bot | bisu_
[20:54] <Voyage>  Line 13,21,28 http://pastebin.com/qEnw6NFR    Cant send email by phpmailer via sendmail-bin
[20:56] <gonyere> so, i'm an idiot and when trying to burn an iso to a usb stick (via sudo if=/dev/XXX of=blah) accidentally burnt it to my /home partition... which of the options listed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery is my best bet for any data recovery?
[20:57] <loki__> gonyere, lol.
[20:58] <loki__> gonyere, you are trying backup usb, or flash iso to usb?
[20:58] <gonyere> i was (attempting) to burn tails to a usb stick an put the wrong drive in... :p
[20:59] <gonyere> so now i have tails where my /home partition used to be...
[20:59] <netlar> I have two application in my usr->share->applications folder for Nautilus.  Can I get rid of one.  Here is the properties of both http://imgur.com/Nb39ACV
[21:01] <mrflibbl2> I'd like to swap the operation of "Super+w" and "Super", so that just pressing "Super" brings up the window spread. Any idea how I change the key bindings?
[21:02] <OerHeks> Turingi, one thing that comes in my mind, after installing the memory, did you just boot, or went into the bios ( this step is needed to programm your bios to accept the new value)
[21:02] <theadmin> mrflibbl2: You will need to install and use the CompizConfig Settings Manager for that.
[21:02] <loki__> gonyere, if = input file/device, of = output file/device
[21:02] <mrflibbl2> cool, i've got that far then :)
[21:02] <zykotick9> mrflibbl2: 1) i certainly have NO idea how but 2) are you sure this is a good idea?  'cause it would mean super+ANYTHING wouldn't be available...
[21:02] <Turingi> OerHeks: no, just reboot into livecd and reboot after that
[21:02] <gonyere> yeah, that...
[21:02] <zykotick9> theadmin: hey
[21:02] <mrflibbl2> zykotick9: it would, cos super on it's own brings up the launcher
[21:03] <OerHeks> Turingi, no before that, did you enter the bios?
[21:03] <gonyere> only i put sda5 where it ought to have been sdb5 or something...
[21:03] <Tex_Nick> gonyere: Linus Torvalds tells a similar story about the inception of linux ... he accidentally wrote a bunch of ATDT parameters to his MINIX partition instead of to his modem
[21:03] <mrflibbl2> and it worked in this way on ubuntu 12
[21:03] <gonyere> an formatted my /home - i know exactly what i did wrong, I'm wondering if there's any hope for recovery of any of my files, an if so, what I should try first
[21:03] <Turingi> OerHeks: nope
[21:03] <Turingi> OerHeks: the bios already sat the 8gb before I noticed ubuntu didn't
[21:03] <Turingi> saw
[21:04] <OerHeks> Turingi, that is the issue i think, you passed the enter-the-bios step.
[21:04] <OerHeks> oke
[21:04] <gonyere> Tex_Nick lol, its not like its the first time I've lost data messing about in linux, i'm sure it won't be the last... :p
[21:04] <mrflibbl2> theadmin: ok, i'm in compizconfig settings manager
[21:04] <theadmin> mrflibbl2: (you're on your own there, I haven't used that tool in ages)
[21:04] <mrflibbl2> oh :(
[21:05] <mrflibbl2> that's as far as I got. the key bindings section is not what i was expecting
[21:05] <theadmin> mrflibbl2: You'll want to fiddle aroudn with the Unity plugins
[21:06] <mrflibbl2> unity tweak tool lists the "super+w" command, but you can't change it
[21:06] <mrflibbl2> (in the window spread) section
[21:09] <mrflibbl2> unity plugin - that's close
[21:10] <mrflibbl2> I can change the show desktop shortcut, which is also something i wanted to change
[21:12] <gonyere> interesting to note ubuntu installation still shows it existing at its correct size of 434 odd mb... i know its at the end of the hd with a 50gb root partition and a 16gb swap... where should i tell gparted rescue to find the partion? is it looking for info in mb? gb? bytes?
[21:16] <wsr3193> server irc.ircstorm.net
[21:17] <ilhami> hello
[21:17] <Klas5> hello guys
[21:18] <Klas5> I have a laboratory, and the instructions say to bring a linux/mac which has X11 installed
[21:18] <Klas5> would that just be say, xauth? or do I need like xorg and the server.. things? as well
[21:18] <ilhami> X11 is preinstalled on many Linux dists :D right?
[21:19] <Klas5> is there an easy way to check for it? googling just told me how to install it (or well, client and server version)
[21:19] <Gl4di4t0r> What does "enable roaming mode" in Network Settings mean ???
[21:21] <ilhami> Klas5, if you have GUI then you most likely have X11
[21:21] <Klas5> Gl4di4t0r, I think that is usually connected to a sim card (called mobile internet here)
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Klas5: Terminal command -> X -version to determine the x-server version ???
[21:21] <jhutchins> Klas5: It's the default GUI for most Linux systems, an add-on extra for Apple.
[21:21] <vitimiti> Hi
[21:22] <ilhami> vitimiti,
[21:22] <ilhami> hi
[21:22] <erikk> A while ago I disabled UEFI boot and installed Ubuntu. Now I want to get back to my Windows install to play some Windows only games. How can I restore my Windows installation?
[21:22] <Klas5> Gl4di4t0r, so say, you "roam" for network operators on 3g/4g
[21:22] <jhutchins> Gl4di4t0r: I think that might be a mode where it connects to new access points as you move from one range to another.  Not the same thing as cellular roaming.
[21:23] <Gl4di4t0r> Ok thank you :)
[21:23] <ilhami> erikk, ask in #windows :D
[21:23] <ilhami> or ##windows
[21:24] <Klas5> Ok, so I probably have it then..
[21:24] <ilhami> Yeah :)
[21:24] <ilhami> you have Ubuntu installed?
[21:24] <erikk> ilhami: Maybe in a bit. I thought people here would have more experience with it
[21:25] <erikk> ilhami: Who, me? Yes
[21:25] <ilhami> erikk, do you have Windows cd or on a USB?
[21:25] <jhutchins> erikk: I haven't messed with Windows since 2004.
[21:25] <erikk> ilhami: No
[21:25] <ilhami> I was asking Klas5
[21:25] <erikk> jhutchins: Anecdotal evidence, not indicative of entire room
[21:25] <ilhami> ikonia, show off :D
[21:25] <ikonia> ?
[21:25] <Klas5> ilhami, yes I have ubuntu
[21:26] <ilhami> just kidding dude
[21:26] <ilhami> haha
[21:26] <jhutchins> Klas5: Then you have X11!
[21:26] <ilhami> Klas5, then you have X11
[21:26] <ilhami> erikk, you can't just restore to Windows without a Windows CD or USB.
[21:27] <erikk> ilhami: Are you speaking exclusively about UEFI boot computers?
[21:27] <grkblood> ever since updating to ubuntu 14 whenever my laptop goes into sleep mode my wireless shuts off. how do I make it so it'll stay on?
[21:27] <ilhami> Windows = not free, Linux = free :)
[21:27] <nwilson5_> google's dns 8.8.8.8 is down?
[21:27] <ilhami> erikk, you have dual boot?
[21:27] <erikk> ilhami: Because I know for a fact that bios systems can definitely restore
[21:27] <eeee> erikk: if you have a recovery partition you can restore windows
[21:27] <erikk> ilhami: I don't have dual boot setup. I have them both installed but disabling uefi disabled easy access to windows
[21:27] <Ajkthx> test\
[21:27] <Ajkthx> thanks
[21:27] <erikk> ilhami: So now I have to fix the issue to regain access
[21:27] <eeee> erikk: ah wait, you disabled UEFI? then just enable it
[21:28] <erikk> ilhami: Not hard to work with grub on bios, but this new uefi stuff has me confused
[21:28] <ilhami> erikk, then enable it.
[21:28] <erikk> eeee: That didn't work for me. I get something like (paraphrased) "no bootable devices"
[21:28] <bynarie> erikk, can you access ur bios?
[21:28] <bynarie> turn legacy boot off
[21:29] <erikk> bynarie: Which is the same as turning uefi back on, right?
[21:29] <erikk> bynarie: Which gives me the "no bootable devices" issue
[21:29] <ilhami> erikk, have you checked Google?
[21:29] <erikk> I'll probably end up trying it again just to refresh my memory and then will come back and say that is what happened
[21:29] <erikk> ilhami: Yes
[21:29] <ilhami> and no results there?
[21:29] <eeee> erikk: maybe you need to fix the mbr?
[21:30] <ilhami> eeee, maybe means "I am not sure" :D haha
[21:30] <ilhami> let's be careful hehe
[21:30] <eeee> that's why i said maybe
[21:30] <eeee> :)
[21:31] <simonor> erikk:have you tried booting a live Linux distro on a pen drive?
[21:31] <erikk> simonor: In the past, yes. Not sure what benefit that would give me now
[21:31] <grkblood> how do i prevent ubuntu from disabling wireless when my laptop goes to sleep?
[21:32] <eeee> erikk: is it win8?
[21:32] <ilhami> grkblood, be patient and someone might answer.
[21:32] <simonor> Erikk:would tell you if it's the mbr.
[21:32] <erikk> eeee: Yes
[21:32] <erikk> simonor: Hmm. I guess I could do that
[21:32] <eeee> if you have win8 + uefi, then you have gpt, if you disabled uefi and used legacy then you'd have bios-boot partition ( 1mb in size ) so gpt will work
[21:33] <eeee> are you sure the efi partition is still in tact?
[21:33] <erikk> eeee: What do you mean that gpt will work?
[21:33] <eeee> if you run bios + gpt, you need a 1mb bios-boot partition
[21:33] <tdj_> When I boot into Lubuntu, the lxpanel fails to show up. How can I reinstall it? I think this happened when I installed LXDE; if I choose the LXDE desktop on login, it works fine.
[21:33] <erikk> eeee: Not too knowledgeable on this. How do I check to see if the "efi partition is still in tact"
[21:33] <simonor> erikk: Tails 1.1 is efi compliant, not sure but probably Slax 7 as well.
[21:34] <eeee> erikk: boot a liveusb, and check your partition table ( sudo parted -l )
[21:35] <erikk> eeee: And then I'll be able to repair stuff from there if the mbr is messed up?
[21:35] <simonor> eeee,erikk:GParted live will give you partition details.
[21:35] <ilhami> tdj_, so lxde doesn't work properly?
[21:36] <eeee> erikk: if the mbr is messed up, you'll need a command prompt to run bcdboot /fixmbr
[21:36] <eeee> ( something like that )
[21:36] <eeee> you could try to boot your recovery partition to get a windows command prompt in the advanced options
[21:36] <tdj_> LXDE works fine actually, it's the Lubuntu desktop that doesn't. I also noticed that window decorations are missing (I was able to launch an application to display 0:0 from the ctrl+alt+f1 terminal). I think maybe I'm missing openbox? I just installed it now but will have to restart to see if that works.
[21:36] <eeee> it most likely won't boot though if the partition table has been modified
[21:37] <ilhami> tdj_, hmm ok.
[21:37] <eeee> erikk: if you have a windows cd that would be great
[21:37] <erikk> eeee: No disk drive or windows cd :P
[21:37] <simonor> eeee:you'd be surprised what you can get away with.
[21:37] <ilhami> erikk, then you are screwed.
[21:37] <ilhami> :D
[21:37] <ilhami> just kidding hehe
[21:38] <erikk> Also no usb ports
[21:38] <ilhami> erikk, lol
[21:38] <ilhami> old laptop?
[21:38] <ningu> is there a package like build-essential that includes autotools, bison/flex, etc.? things needed to generate the buildable stuff for some programs?
[21:38] <erikk> ilhami: I'm joking
[21:38] <eeee> simonor: you mean extracting the build.wim ?
[21:38] <ilhami> maybe you have a floppy disk drive :D
[21:38] <ningu> I know I can install them individually. just wondering if there is something that installs all that as a unit.
[21:38] <simonor> eeee:not that!
[21:38] <genii> ningu: build-essential exists
[21:39] <ningu> genii: build-essential doesn't install the stuff I just mentioned.
[21:39] <NGC3982> Hey, are there reliable terminal based Dropbox software out there?
[21:39] <simonor> Resizing, formatting additional
[21:39] <ilhami> NGC3982, check Google
[21:39] <mrflibbl2> hi guys, back again. compiz crashed and I couldnt select any windows :(
[21:40] <NGC3982> ilhami: :|
[21:40] <eeee> simonor: not following what you mean, you mean resizing the partitions would boot the recovery again, as it came in oem ?
[21:40] <erikk> Thanks guys
[21:40] <ilhami> erikk, you fixed it?
[21:40] <loki__> why creating dvd so long and heavy operation...
[21:40] <ilhami> loki__, ask the ones that invented it.
[21:40] <erikk> So I'll reboot, mess around with bios / uefi by hand for a bit. If that doesn't work, my best bet is to get a live usb and repair the presumably janked mbr?
[21:40] <loki__> i use mkisofs for this, and it said that it will go two hours.
[21:40] <mrflibbl2> any idea where the compiz settings are, so I can delete them and start again  - now when i log in, compiz crashes and I only get my desktop background and icons, and no launcher :(
[21:41] <loki__> ilhami, yeah, i dinner today with him.
[21:41] <erikk> I thought the mbr repair didn't work for uefi dual boot (from what I had read earlier online, but it has been a bit since I read it)
[21:41] <ilhami> haha
[21:41] <ningu> alternatively, say I want to know all ubuntu packages that depend on 'make'. can I look that up?
[21:41] <tdj__> So I logged out and back in, but lxpanel still didn't show up. I ran the lxterminal from the ctrl+alt+f1 terminal (although I had to "export DISPLAY=:0.0" first), and there was no window decoration. i ran "openbox" from that lxterminal window and now there is window decoration.
[21:41] <erikk> Here I go
[21:42] <tdj__> I was also able to run lxpanel after that, but it isn't themed like Lubuntu usually themes lxpanel -- it's the glossy piano black look that comes with LXDE
[21:42] <simonor> eeee:"for example". If it's a broken 'Doze, livelinux will get you to the dat, should be able to save it to a portable drive before reinstalling. Also there will likely be a repair option on the OEM disk.
[21:42] <ningu> aha. apt-cache rdepends does it.
[21:43] <ilhami> tdj__, reinstall lxde maybe? :)
[21:43] <mrflibbl2>  ck
[21:43] <mrflibbl2> oops
[21:44] <mrflibbl2> nice find ningu
[21:44] <tdj__> ilhami: Haha, I know :S I'd really rather not reinstall all of Lubuntu from scratch (this all happened as a result of upgrading a really outdated (but working) Lubuntu machine), but is there a way I can solve this with apt?
[21:44] <gimmic> hmm
[21:44] <ilhami> tdj__, probably but it may be a long process. :)
[21:44] <gimmic> did an update and now my time is missing from my unity bar
[21:44] <gimmic> also, in time/date settings, the clock tab is all greyed out
[21:45]  * mrflibbl2 sighs
[21:45] <mrflibbl2> i've had enough of compiz for one night. time for bed, gnite all!
[21:45] <ilhami> tdj__, which version of Lubuntu are you running?
[21:46] <gimmic> http://i.imgur.com/0tU7rn6.jpg?1
[21:46] <gimmic> anyone seen that?
[21:47] <ilhami> tdj__, and how did you upgrade?
[21:47] <gimmic> (and of course, the clock is missing)
[21:47] <simonor> gimmic:have you tired turning it off and on again?
[21:47] <gimmic> :|
[21:47] <tdj__> 14.04 -- I upgraded from 12.04 maybe? Using do-release-upgrade
[21:47]  * gimmic slams the reciver several times for emphasis
[21:48] <ilhami> tdj__, never do that dude.
[21:48] <ilhami> I heard it's bad to upgrade that way.
[21:48] <ilhami> anyway did you try : sudo apt-get install --reinstall lxpanel?
[21:48] <tdj__> oh :C
[21:48] <tdj__> ilhami: I believe I have, couldn't hurt doing it again
[21:48] <bekks> ilhami: Why would the supported way of upgrading using do-release-upgrade be a bad idea?
[21:49] <gimmic> simonor: I have, but I will try again. http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1996-12-29/
[21:49] <ilhami> bekks, I just read that somewhere. If I find that link I will post it. :D
[21:49] <bekks> ilhami: With just a few precautions (remove foreign packages, remove PPA and its packages), those upgrades work pretty fine.
[21:50] <simonor> gimmic:if that doesn't help, google :vague memory of cure by commandline
[21:52] <ilhami> tdj__, so your lxpanel is totally broken?
[21:52] <ilhami> right?
[21:54] <ilhami> tdj__, don't sleep dude.
[21:54] <Guido1> hello, i have two issues with xubuntu. http://superuser.com/questions/814975/lenovo-laptop-fn-ctrl-swap and waking up the laptop only workes if i disable usb 3.0. when can i expect a fix?
[21:55] <abdullatif> Hi
[21:56] <ilhami> abdullatif, hi
[21:57] <simonor> Cheerio chaps. Work tomorrow!
[21:57] <chachin> yay
[21:58] <ilhami> what about finding me a job ? :D
[21:58] <chachin> u toolazy to get up and find one yourself?
[21:58] <abdullatif> i need help with photo editors
[21:58] <ilhami> chachin, hard to find one here when your name is ilhami :D
[21:58] <ilhami> abdullatif, not the right place.
[21:59] <abdullatif> Oh sorry
[21:59] <ilhami> you can ask in ##photoshop maybe.
[21:59] <abdullatif> Thank u, have a nice day
[21:59] <ilhami> you too bruv
[22:00] <ilhami> Guest12345 get outta here bazhang_  haha
[22:00] <AR45> okay need some help installing some stuff on my ubuntu minimal desktop
[22:00] <loki__> help me please, i use mkisofs for create iso from folder. and i have problem, it is working slow, dunno why. i see that it read only 1mb speed and there no cpu usage.
[22:00] <ilhami> AR45, sure what do you need to install?
[22:00] <loki__> what i can try?
[22:00] <ilhami> another software :)
[22:01] <ilhami> hehe
[22:01] <loki__> it is very good software as i understand.
[22:01] <AR45> ilhami: i need my nvidia drivers and wifi drivers and a desktop environment
[22:01] <ilhami> loki__, search Google. :)
[22:02] <ilhami> AR45, I would suggest you download them first from their respective sites. And then always read the README files.
[22:02] <ilhami> which Desktop Environment do you want?
[22:14] <jjavaholic> can't add Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" to xorg.conf in 14.04 where is the file i'm looking for now?
[22:15] <erikk> Well, I'm back. I'm on a live disk of Ubuntu. However, I think I have more serious issues. GParted shows one giant partition with a few really small ones but I thought I had the someting like 400 GB for Windows and 100 for Ubuntu. Does this mean that I probably fucked something up and overwrote Windows?
[22:15] <erikk> Or is this just an issue that I haven't fixed yet that is causing it to be mis interpreted
[22:16] <Bashing-om> jjavaholic: IF that file exists - /etc/X11/xorg.conf is tha path.
[22:17] <mtn> erikk: what format is the big partition?
[22:17] <AR45> how to determine the fastest mirror and set it on ubuntu minimal tty?
[22:17] <erikk> mtn: ext4
[22:18] <mtn> erikk: looks like windows is gone then
[22:18] <erikk> mtn: Damn
[22:18] <decwrl> Need some help getting an Intel X520 NIC (dual port 10GbE) working on Ubuntu 14.04.  Driver is loaded (lsmod shows the ixgbe driver) and hardware shows up (using lspci to check that).  But, ifconfig doesn't show the interfaces.
[22:18] <erikk> I swore on the ubuntu installer I selected a fresh partition that had no Windows on it
[22:18] <mtn> erikk: of course you had backup, right?
[22:18] <erikk> No clue how this happened though
[22:18] <erikk> mtn: :P
[22:19] <Bashing-om> erikk: Maybe :: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192
[22:20] <erikk> I don't know. I'm just confused how it didn't end up the way I thought the ubuntu installer clearly showed. But it is my fault for not having a backup
[22:21] <erikk> Any way GParted is not reading it correctly?
[22:21] <erikk> This is a continuation of the "not being able to boot into Windows" saga
[22:21] <sss> i have a question for ubuntu
[22:21] <erikk> So maybe there is still hope?
[22:21] <AR45> 18:17 <AR45> how to determine the fastest mirror and set it on ubuntu minimal tty?
[22:21] <erikk> I installed Ubuntu such that it boots only on legacy but Windows was set with UEFI + secure boot
[22:22] <AR45> erikk: read the wiki it explains this
[22:22] <Bashing-om> erikk: For confirmation I would _. sudo apt-get install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda . sudo parted -l .
[22:23] <sss> HDJJDJ
[22:23] <Rebecca92> hallo , in according as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo an user should not use sudo for graphical apps.... if it's true , why gksu and gksudo are not installed by default ?! it's strange!
[22:24] <ilhami> Rebecca92, shhh:D
[22:24] <Rebecca92> ilhami, ? :)
[22:24] <ilhami> hehe I was just kidding. I will brb-
[22:25] <Bashing-om> Rebecca92: Only so much room an a DVD, and the transforation to depreciate "gksudo" is underway (???) .
[22:25] <erikk> AR45: Yeah, I see the wiki and have looked at it before but am still confused
[22:25] <Bashing-om> transformation *
[22:26] <Rebecca92> Bashing-om, i haven't "really" understood you
[22:27] <Bashing-om> Rebecca92: Gksudo and others are deprecated now and not recommended any more. Pkexec is the new boy but it is not straightforward either.
[22:27] <jeremy31> AR45: did my advise help you?
[22:27] <AR45> jeremy31: i didn't see a message from you
[22:28] <Rebecca92> Bashing-om, pkexec ? lol , i like . but.... anyone cannot update the wiki ? and .. it's installed by default in *buntu ?
[22:28] <PCworker> hello yall, Can anyone suggest a good business accounting program for ubuntu 14.04LTS??
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: The reason they are no longer installed by default is that there are no GUI apps in the default install with launchers using gksudo/gksu. All default GUI apps that need elevated privileges most of the time now use PolicyKit to ask for specific privileges rather that having to run the whole app as root.
[22:28] <jeremy31> AR45: you aren't the one looking for help on a broadcom wifi chip a couple days ago?
[22:29] <Kevindf> does ubuntu server standard have iptables as firewall?
[22:29] <PCworker> jeremy31: Yep and It's all good now.
[22:29] <loki__> PCworker, today trend to move accounting to internet services.
[22:29] <AR45> jeremy31: oh yes I got the system going now i want to try minimal cd
[22:29] <loki__> there are plenty of them even in our mother russia.
[22:30] <jeremy31> AR45: good, just wanted to check since I hadn't seen you since
[22:30] <AR45> jeremy31: just wondering how to change my mirror list because it's downloading so slow
[22:30] <Bashing-om> Rebecca92: Mind you I am still running 'gksudo' and have not explored 'pkexe' to this time. I am aware there are some hoops to jump through on occassion to get 'pkexe' functioning. In the futer we will have to learn 'pkexe' .
[22:30] <mtn> Kevindf: iptables is in the linux kernel, all distros have it.
[22:30] <Kevindf> I'm trying to add a rule to iptables with "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p udp –dport 9987 -j ACCEPT" but i get "Bad argument `–dport'" as error message, any ideas how to solve?
[22:31] <PCworker> loki: Yeah, I'm very new to torrent files and am not real sure how to extract and install them yet.
[22:31] <PCworker> loki: but am studying
[22:32] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Thanks for that ! .. Yeah .. had 'policykit' had slipped my mind.
[22:32] <AR45> You'd think Ubuntu would determine the fastest mirror near you but it dosen't!
[22:32] <Rebecca92> Bashing-om, i use fedora and pkexec is THE  standard... but reading the ubuntu wiki and  helping an user with ubuntu, i was surprised for the absence of gksudo
[22:32] <AR45> Does anyone know how to set the mirrors?
[22:32] <jeremy31> AR45: is this still relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Rebecca92: Understand that ! .. Many of our WIKIs are behind, We do need to pay greater attention and spend the time to update them.
[22:34] <Rebecca92> ook :D
[22:34] <squinty> AR45:  Software and Updates >  Download from > Other > Select Best Server
[22:35] <AR45> squinty: hehe i dont have any of those gui
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Rebecca92: "gksudo' is still available, terminal command -> sudo apt-get install gksu <- .
[22:35] <AR45> jeremy31: thanks
[22:36] <Rebecca92> Bashing-om, available != preinstallated
[22:36] <Kevindf> why do i get  Bad argument `–-sport' & Bad argument `–-dport' when trying to add -A INPUT -p udp -–dport 9987 -j ACCEPT to my iptables?
[22:36] <Kevindf> anyone know?
[22:37] <Bashing-om> Rebecca92: Granted .. just saying if the need exist for 'gksudo" to help your user, it is available.
[22:37] <wildwind> Kevindf: try --dport
[22:37] <ilhami> gksudo is the best package :P
[22:37] <ilhami> I like it :D
[22:37] <ilhami> brb
[22:37] <Rebecca92> Bashing-om, thank :D
[22:37] <PCworker> Bashing-om: I wanted to thank you for the help you gave me on terminal commands a couple months back. With your help and my willingness to learn, I was able to do the updates that I needed to get my machines working right. Thanks again.
[22:37] <Kevindf> tried that, then i get "Bad argument `–-dport' Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information."
[22:38] <wildwind> Kevindf: it's "-dport" in your first message
[22:38] <Kevindf> both -dport and --dport doesn't work
[22:38] <Bashing-om> PCworker: :) ... You are quite welcome .. This is 'buntu, we are all in this together.
[22:39] <Kevindf> when i do -dport it gives -dport bad argument error and when i try --dport it says --dport bad argument :(
[22:40] <PCworker> Bashing-om: Yes we are and I know where to go when I can't figure it out. LOL Thanks and see yall again later
[22:41] <gothicspeaker> Hello
[22:41] <gothicspeaker> I 'm having a problem in ubuntu and I need to know if I 'm hacked
[22:41] <wildwind> Kevindf: did you copy that command from a web page?
[22:41] <Kevindf> yes
[22:42] <Kevindf> from http://sathisharthars.wordpress.com/2014/04/01/configuring-voice-over-ip-server-teamspeak3-in-ubuntu-13-10/ in the middle of the page
[22:42] <mtn> gothicspeaker: you will have to explain your problem before anyone can know if they can help
[22:43] <wildwind> Kevindf: make sure it's really a dash and not some other Unicode symbol. It looks strange even in your error message.
[22:43] <gothicspeaker> mtn: Ok, I just started my computer. And when I clicked on the list where you can see all my users, a new one was added it seemed. My username is 'Roel' and normally I see 'guest' under my username. But now it says 'stream' under me and after that 'guest'. What is this?
[22:44] <Kevindf> Does "iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 9987 -j ACCEPT" do tesame thing?
[22:44] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, LOL
[22:44] <gothicspeaker> ilhami: What's so funny?
[22:45] <gothicspeaker> I tried to look up what it means but I can't find any information on it
[22:45] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, what have you done?
[22:45] <gothicspeaker> ilhami: I have no idea.
[22:45] <ilhami> since you think you are under attack?
[22:46] <wildwind> Kevindf: same as what?
[22:46] <gothicspeaker> ilhami: Well, I don't know where this user called 'stream' comes from and I didn't add this user.
[22:46] <mtn> gothicspeaker: if you didn't add it, someone else at  your computer did
[22:47] <gothicspeaker> mtn: But I 'm the only one using this computer, so how is that possible?
[22:47] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, you have maybe been hacked. who knows? Maybe it was one of your friends?
[22:47] <ilhami> or your relative?
[22:47] <Kevindf> If there's any difference between "iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 9987 -j ACCEPT" and "iptables -I INPUT 1 -p udp --dport 9987 -j ACCEPT"
[22:47] <mtn> gothicspeaker: it is one or the other. you decide ;)
[22:47] <gothicspeaker> ilhami: There are no friends or relatives using this computer
[22:47] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, maybe it was you :)
[22:47] <ilhami> have you been drinking lately?
[22:47] <ilhami> :D
[22:47] <mtn> heh
[22:47] <gothicspeaker> no
[22:47] <HyTronix> Does anyone have the touchpad on an Acer Aspire E15 working on 14.04?  I found some info indicating that this was supported in upstream kernel 3.17, so I upgraded to 3.17.0 but afterwards, the kernel locks on boot with an error message like "firmware bug IBS APIC setup failed -22" or similar... Ideas?
[22:48] <gothicspeaker> But are there ways in which users can suddenly be added to your users?
[22:48] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, just messing with ya. :)
[22:48] <mtn> gothicspeaker: is that user "stream" or "steam"?
[22:48] <gothicspeaker> mtn: "stream"
[22:48] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, sounds unlikely.
[22:48] <gothicspeaker> mtn: I 'm almost sure, shall I check it again?
[22:49] <mtn> gothicspeaker: check again
[22:49] <wildwind> Kevindf: yes, difference is in where the new rule go in a chain, to the start or to the end
[22:49] <gothicspeaker> mtn: Yes, he was called 'stream'
[22:50] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, I would say hacked.
[22:50] <mtn> gothicspeaker: no idea, but to be completely safe, you would reinstall. that is, if you are completely sure you or someone else at your location did not do it.
[22:51] <mtn> gothicspeaker: my bet is it was done locally and not because of any hack
[22:51] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, that has probably nothing to do with Ubuntu but with how you have used it. :D
[22:51] <mtn> indeed
[22:51] <gothicspeaker> mtn: Well, I recntly started learning programming languages, but I can't remember messing anything up
[22:52] <gothicspeaker> Is there a command line to see which users are active?
[22:52] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: Try to log in under that user and see what files he has
[22:53] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: How can I know his or her password?
[22:53] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: 'who'
[22:53] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: Why would 'who' be the password?
[22:53] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: is there a password?
[22:53] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: I don't know, let me check it now.
[22:53] <wildwind> 'who' is the command
 Is there a command line to see which users are active?
 'who' is the command
[22:54] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: who gives me :
[22:54] <mtn> gothicspeaker: you can look at the contents without logging in as the other user
[22:54] <gothicspeaker> roel    tty7
[22:54] <gothicspeaker> roel    pts/1
[22:54] <gothicspeaker> what does that mean?
[22:54] <gothicspeaker> mtn: How can I look at the content without logging in?
[22:54] <wildwind> !pastebin | gothicspeaker
[22:54] <ilhami> so your roel?
[22:54] <mtn> gothicspeaker: with your file manager. look in /home
[22:55] <ilhami> you're*
[22:55] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, is that your user? roel?
[22:55] <gothicspeaker> ilhami: the account I 'm currently at is indeed roel
[22:55] <k6_> hello, when I call "shutdown -h now" , my rc.d services don't get stopped properly, any idea why?
[22:55] <gothicspeaker> but under roel a user called "stream" appeared
[22:56] <gothicspeaker> I see one new file I think
[22:56] <gothicspeaker> homeroel.bashrc.save
[22:56] <gothicspeaker> in /home/roel
[22:56] <gothicspeaker> is that a normal file?
[22:56] <gothicspeaker> wildwind:  how do I use !pastebin?
[22:56] <Tex_Nick> gothicspeaker: will cat /etc/passwd provide any useful info ?
[22:56] <ilhami> http://paste.ubuntu.com go this site and paste it there
[22:57] <ilhami> and then give us the link it provides.
[22:57] <ilhami> the link in the url bar will work
[22:57] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: paste lines of text there and just links here
[22:57] <gothicspeaker> Tex_Nick: This is weird.  The last line says:       /home/stream:/bin/sh,   but when I look in /home, there is no directory called 'stream'
[22:58] <gothicspeaker> how can I copy from the command line?
[22:58] <ilhami> mark it and right click - > copy
[22:58] <gothicspeaker> ilhami:  If I right click it get's deselected
[22:58] <ilhami> which terminal do you use?
[22:59] <ilhami> in mine it works.
[22:59] <ilhami> I use LXTerminal.
[22:59] <mtn> ilhami: just highlight it and it is already copied
[22:59] <ilhami> mtn, oh ok. :)
[22:59] <mtn> ilhami: sorry, that was meant for gothicspeaker
[22:59] <Tex_Nick> gothicspeaker: to copy from command line ... hilight text, then right-click & choose copy
[22:59] <ilhami> Tex_Nick, it may differ from terminal
[23:00] <ilhami> to terminal*
[23:00] <Tex_Nick> ilhami: ahh ok sir ... thanks for correction :)
[23:00] <gothicspeaker> That doesn't work, and when I try CTRL + shift + V   it doesn't work
[23:00] <mtn> gothicspeaker: hightlight the test you want to copy, then paste using the middle mouse button
[23:00] <mtn> gothicspeaker: test/text
[23:00] <gothicspeaker> mtn: I use a laptop so the middle mouse isn't really working
[23:01] <mtn> gothicspeaker: hit both buttons at once, that is the same as middle mouse button
[23:01] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: do you have ssh server running?
[23:01] <ilhami> mtn knows all the tricks hehe :)
[23:01] <gothicspeaker> mtn: doesn't work
[23:01] <mtn> gothicspeaker: sorry
[23:02] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: I use PHP so I have a server running indeed, but when I installed it I didn't see this user called 'stream', I have a PHP server for more than 1 year now
[23:02] <ilhami> php is unsafe if you use it wrong. :)
[23:02] <list> vasco rossi
[23:02] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, and did you ever update those apache servers? Lol
[23:04] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: SSH server, not PHP. Bun PHP could be insecure too
[23:04] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: *But*
[23:08] <Tex_Nick> ^5 IdleOne
[23:09] <Joseph_> hello are there people online?
[23:11] <ilhami> lol why do people not just ask their questions ? :D
[23:11] <ilhami> instead of asking if there are people here.
[23:15] <wildwind> ilhami: maybe Joseph's client doesn't show him that there's 1660 people here...
[23:15] <JCT> i'm trying to move a file to a folder, but i can't and it looks like because permission is denied
[23:16] <daftykins> JCT: pastebin what you're running.
[23:16] <JCT> take a scrnshot?\
[23:16] <ilhami> wildwind, could be :)
[23:16] <daftykins> JCT: er no, you're doing it via terminal, yes?
[23:17] <JCT> well, yeah.
[23:17] <daftykins> sooo pastebin
[23:17] <JCT> i looked up how to install zandronum.
[23:17] <JCT> it installed itself to /usr/games
[23:17] <JCT> so i have to pastebin it
[23:17] <JCT> ok
[23:17] <JCT> what exactly is the command line?
[23:17] <daftykins> does that have something to do with moving a file?
[23:18] <ilhami> JCT, what did you try to move a folder or file?
[23:18] <daftykins> no you use your mouse to select over the text and then copy it into paste.ubuntu.com to share it
[23:18] <JCT> file
[23:18] <ilhami> what command did you try?
[23:18] <JCT> an Iwad file required to play zandronum on linux
[23:18] <JCT> i tried the gui command
[23:18] <JCT> not terminal
[23:19] <JCT> so i don't know the terminal command
[23:19] <daftykins> you just said you were using the terminal
[23:19] <daftykins> *blinks*
[23:19] <daftykins> ok just share what you're doing that's going wrong
[23:19] <JCT> i installed zandronum
[23:19] <daftykins> via whichever means is most appropriate
[23:19] <daftykins> yeah ok, we got that bit :)
[23:19] <JCT> i didn't move the files to use zd tho
[23:20] <JCT> and i don't know how
[23:20] <ilhami> so you want to move some files?
[23:20] <ilhami> you tried drag and drop or what? :D
[23:20] <JCT> yes/
[23:20] <JCT> i tried everything with gui ability
[23:20] <ilhami> ok try to open the terminal. :)
[23:20] <daftykins> for what it's worth, it doesn't *NEED* to be in /usr/games
[23:20] <JCT> it put itself there
[23:21] <JCT> i don't know how to move it out but ill try
[23:21] <daftykins> so are you actually going to tell us anything about this file move?
[23:21] <daftykins> so that, we can help?
[23:21] <JCT> all i want to do is put the IWAD files into the same folder as ZD
[23:21] <ilhami> JCT did you open the terminal yet?
[23:22] <JCT> i absolutly can not modify the folder whatsoever on gui, and yes i did.
[23:22] <JCT> i have inputted no commands
[23:22] <JCT> as of yet
[23:22] <ilhami> in the terminal you can use a command called "mv" which means to move  but it needs some arguments. :)
[23:23] <JCT> and by arguments you mean a password?
[23:23] <ilhami> no
[23:23] <JCT> or where i need to move it to?
[23:23] <ilhami> you need to specify which file you want to move and to which destination
[23:23] <JCT> how exactly is the command spread out?
[23:23] <JCT> is it sudo?
[23:24] <ilhami> yes you put sudo in front so you don't get that permission error :)
[23:24] <daftykins> JCT: well yeah because you're not root in nautilus, so you have no permissions to put them into that folder.
[23:24] <JCT> ok
[23:24] <daftykins> anyway since ilhami found it necessary to tread on my toes, i'll leave it to you two.
[23:24] <JCT> i am the only usr
[23:24] <ilhami> daftykins, sorry :)
[23:24] <daftykins> no you're not the only user :)
[23:25] <JCT> wat?
[23:25] <JCT> i use my pass for a lot of permissions
[23:25] <ilhami> sudo mv /pathToFile/fileToMove /pathToNewLocation/
[23:25] <ilhami> this is how you use it. :)
[23:25] <JCT> so ok
[23:25] <ilhami> and if you want to move a folder "sudo mv -r /pathToFile/folderToMove /pathToNewLocation/ "
[23:28] <ilhami> JCT, so how did it go? :)
[23:29] <JCT> um so well i tried the directory of wads using sudo mv /home/jct/downloads/wads/doom2.wad /usr/games/zandronum/
[23:29] <JCT> NOPE
[23:30] <JCT> mv: cannot stat ‘/home/jct/downloads/wads/doom2.wad’: No such file or directory
[23:30] <JCT> did i do it wrong?
[23:30] <daftykins> it's "Downloads" with a capital
[23:31] <daftykins> when typing paths, use tab to complete.
[23:31] <JCT> oh cool
[23:31] <Pici> JCT: Also, the zandronum website says to installs WADS into ~/.zandronum/
[23:31] <ilhami> JCT do you know that you can use TAB as auto completer ? :)
[23:31] <ilhami> it's really useful.
[23:31] <JCT> um daftykins just told me that
[23:31] <ilhami> oh sorry didn't see.
[23:32] <JCT> how do i install wads to the folder?
[23:32] <JCT> as in install?
[23:32] <daftykins> ilhami: you're going to want to get good at reading scrollback in here.
[23:32] <JCT> i dunt get it
[23:32] <JCT> dont
[23:32] <Pici> JCT: I meant install as a synonym for put.
[23:32] <ilhami> daftykins, could have been my connection. It lags sometimes. I am on a VM :)
[23:33] <JCT> huh...
[23:33] <daftykins> ilhami: same here.
[23:33] <ilhami> heh
[23:33] <JCT> i think i got it lemme check
[23:33] <Pici> JCT: if ~/.zandronum/ doesn't exist, create it. Then put a copy (or the original) .wad files in there.
[23:34] <JCT> yep it's in there :)
[23:34] <JCT> how do i run the app?
[23:35] <JCT> it says it's an executable/x-executable
[23:35] <daftykins> Pici: sounds like JCT could do with a link to the site you were reading from
[23:35] <Pici> JCT: Step #2 for Ubuntu on http://zandronum.com/download#instubuntu
[23:36] <JCT> ok, how do i run it?
[23:36] <JCT> i tried a double click, but nope
[23:36] <rathitlike> I use radeon open source. But HDMI overscan needs xrandr to turn it on. Problem is the display gets a weird look missing lines
[23:36] <Pici> JCT: It says it should have created a launcher in your Games menu.
[23:37] <Pici> Honestly, I haven't touched Unity in forever, so I'm not sure how that all works nowadays.
[23:37] <JCT> where's the games menu? (sorry for rambling on and on)
[23:37] <Pici> JCT: I guess you should probably be able to run it from the dash? /me shrugs
[23:38] <ilhami> Now he will ask.. Where is the dash? :D
[23:38] <JCT> how'd you know?
[23:38] <ilhami> hahaha
[23:38] <JCT> this is so confusing
[23:38] <wilton> oi
[23:38] <ilhami> JCT, are you even using Unity?
[23:38] <JCT> of course
[23:38] <JCT> what is the dash
[23:39] <JCT> there was no instruction booklet lol
[23:39] <ilhami> JCT, use the Windows key if you have such a button and then check there if there is something called games. :D
[23:39] <JCT> ok
[23:39] <JCT> no
[23:39] <JCT> ii'' try another way
[23:40] <ilhami> try to search for your game. :)
[23:40] <ilhami> I haven't played many games on Linux but I have tried a game called AssaultCube and there was a .sh file which I could execute. :)
[23:41] <JCT> gah is there a console command for running apps?? might still be permissions problem
[23:41] <JCT> am i wasting your time in a good way?
[23:41] <rathitlike> Xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set underscan on SEEMS TO SQUASH DISPLAY
[23:41] <daftykins> !manual | JCT
[23:42] <JCT> cool comand lol
[23:42] <ilhami> check if your game has a shell script you can execute JCT .
[23:42] <daftykins> JCT: i suggest you learn a lot more about how to use Ubuntu rather than using up the channel volunteers time with simple tasks.
[23:42] <JCT> ok
[23:42] <JCT> so that answers the question. i'm sorry for wasting your time. thanks tho
[23:42] <ilhami> JCT, I am still willing to help :)
[23:42] <ilhami> if you need it.
[23:42] <ilhami> I learn by it.
[23:43] <IdleOne> daftykins: I suggest you check your attitude and help those you want to help. This channel is for all skill levels, nobody is forcing you to help those with questions you feel are beneath you
[23:43] <daftykins> IdleOne: no attitude, genuine recommendation toward how to get started.
[23:43] <ilhami> aaaw he left. :(
[23:44] <IdleOne> daftykins: telling people they are wasting our time is not how we do things here and you know that.
[23:44] <IdleOne> So, take my advice and relax.
[23:44] <daftykins> unnecessary.
[23:44] <ilhami> IdleOne is the boss here? :D
[23:44] <rathitlike> Xrandr --output HDMI-0 --set underscan on SEEMS TO SQUASH DISPLAY
[23:45] <xeku> "boss"
[23:45] <IdleOne> ilhami: I am a volunteer just like you
[23:45] <ilhami> rathitlike, what was your problem again?
[23:45] <ilhami> oh hdmi problem.
[23:46] <ilhami> who owns this channel?
[23:46] <IdleOne> The Ubuntu community
[23:47] <ilhami> Who is the channel owner? That's what I mean. Which nick?
[23:47] <rathitlike> ilhami: hooked up thru hdmi. Overscan issue. Using xrandr to disable oversacn works, but display has weird look. Like it's squashed without proper scaling
[23:47] <oeuvre> Have no fear, for sir oeuvre is here!
[23:47] <oeuvre> I can fix all of your Windows 95 related problems.
[23:47] <aarwine> rathitlike: what happens if you add --auto?
[23:47] <IdleOne> ilhami: the channel is "owned" by the Ubuntu IRC Council
[23:47] <IdleOne> aka the IRCC
[23:48] <ilhami> IdleOne, lol ok.
[23:48] <hggdh> ilhami: the channel "owner" is the Ubuntu community. There is no owner as a person
[23:48] <oeuvre> Does Ubuntu really exist or is it just a state of mind?
[23:48] <aarwine> oeuvre: do you really exist?
[23:48] <ilhami> oeuvre, Windows 95 hahaha:)
[23:48] <aarwine> do i?
[23:48] <oeuvre> These are questions we need to think about if we want to go where we are going.
[23:49] <rww> we should probably think about support instead
[23:49] <oeuvre> A man with his computer, unsatisfied with his closed source operating system.
[23:49] <hggdh> oeuvre: and they are more appropriate in some other channel
[23:49] <oeuvre> He installs Ubuntu.
[23:49] <hggdh> oeuvre: so, please stay on topic
[23:49] <gothicspeaker> is mtn still here?
[23:49] <gothicspeaker> or wildwind?
[23:49] <oeuvre> He is filled with utter disappointment and notes that Unity looks like complete shit and is a Mac OS X ripoff.
[23:50] <oeuvre> He fires up Terminal and types "sudo apt-get install Windows95"
[23:50] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: my internet connection was lost the whole time
[23:50] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, what?
[23:50] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: When I tried to log into my guest account I saw this:
[23:50] <gothicspeaker> no session for pid 5109
[23:50] <gothicspeaker> what does that mean?
[23:50] <rathitlike> aarwine: I think it uses 1080 rather than 720 which is worse. But will try
[23:51] <ilhami> oeuvre, ???
[23:51] <ilhami> trolling much?
[23:51] <aarwine> rathitlike: when you run xrandr by itself it'll show you the current settings
[23:51] <aarwine> and all possible
[23:51] <oeuvre> ilhami: The man is a machine.
[23:52] <oeuvre> He is not a human, nor cyborg. Instead he is one with the machine.
[23:52] <oeuvre> Anyways, how do I install Adobe Photoshop in Linux?
[23:52] <Dean1> So my router is picking up 4000 + tcp connections that is coming from my Ubuntu box and it brought my internet connection to a crawl.  Any ideas?
[23:52] <oeuvre> Ableton Live? No?
[23:52] <oeuvre> Unity Pro?
[23:53] <oeuvre> Well, this sucks. What's the point of Ubuntu if I can't even run the software I need on it?
[23:53] <aarwine> Dean1: see for yourself - ss -p
[23:53] <ilhami> oeuvre, you can get GIMP :)
[23:53] <oeuvre> Gimp=/=Photoshop.
[23:53] <oeuvre> Though yes, it is decent.
[23:54] <ilhami> It's a good alternative.
[23:54] <Lioncourt> can anyone help? have diskless clients(booting on eth0) with multiple NIC's. struggling to have clients enaable eth1
[23:54] <oeuvre> Kinda like how Windows 7 is a good alternative to Ubuntu.
[23:54] <wildwind> I think oeuvre is a bot and someone should kick him
[23:54] <oeuvre> wildwind: The man is a machine. Not a robot.
[23:55] <oeuvre> He is at one with himself and at one with the machine.
[23:55] <ilhami> oeuvre, http://stanleytips.com/how-to-install-adobe-photoshop-cs6-in-ubuntu-linux-machine/
[23:55] <ilhami> here you go
[23:55] <oeuvre> He is everything and he is nothing. He has all the tools he needs to do what he wants.
[23:55] <oeuvre> THank you ilhami
[23:55] <Lioncourt> Got eth2 = wan eth0 = filesystem for cluster eth1=Want This one for workload
[23:55] <Lioncourt> But clients won't c it
[23:55] <Lioncourt> anyone ever use DRBL ?
[23:56] <Lioncourt> think need somehow to tell clients to kick the PCI NIC eth1 up on a script somehow ....any help ?
[23:56] <aarwine> Lioncourt: what have you tried?
[23:56] <Lioncourt> anyone ? =o~( is doing my head in
[23:56] <oeuvre> Lioncourt: remove your network card and install a token ring adapter.
[23:56] <oeuvre> While you're at it, install a 56k PCI modem.
[23:57] <Lioncourt> ?
[23:57] <Lioncourt> really
[23:57] <ilhami> :D
[23:57] <oeuvre> And don't forget, you turn my floppy disk into a solid state drive.
[23:57] <oeuvre> That's why I transfer so quickly ;)
[23:57] <Lioncourt> best advice ...unbelievable oeuvre =o)
[23:57] <oeuvre> Hey, I am giving you the best advice right now because I'm the only one giving you advice.
[23:58] <gothicspeaker> ok I found this
[23:58] <Lioncourt> distrating too!
[23:58] <gothicspeaker> I think i 'm hacked
[23:58] <gothicspeaker> Oct  9 00:37:26 roel-A6VA lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "stream"
[23:58] <aarwine> Lioncourt: your question is non-specific and bad; as a result, the only thing I can suggest is ifconfig eth1 up
[23:58] <aarwine> gl
[23:58] <wildwind> oeuvre: the best a bot can find in it's phrasebook
[23:58] <Lioncourt> I don't need win7. I have win4workgroups311
[23:59] <oeuvre> Oh, perfect.
[23:59] <oeuvre> Windows for Workgroups 3.11 is the best operating system ever made.
[23:59] <oeuvre> Anyone who isn't using it is a complete loony.
[23:59] <oeuvre> It's 2014, after all.
[23:59] <Lioncourt> <<<< taking the keyboard from LionCourt.
[23:59] <gothicspeaker> ilhami: this guy called 'stream' tried to log in but he can't