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bluesabreelfy: did the dailies fail to build yesterdaay?10:16
bluesabreknome: NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline tomorrow, does that affect us?10:19
slickymasterWorkI don't think so bluesabre 10:21
knomebluesabre, well that's practically our translation deadline, since we don't have stuff that's in language packs10:22
bluesabreok, thought so10:22
slickymasterWorkyeaps10:23
slickymasterWorkhi knome 10:23
knomebluesabre, so kind of, if we want new translations in, we should do it before that10:23
knomebluesabre, talk to Unit193 and check if there are new translations for the docs that we'd prefer in10:23
bluesabreok10:23
knome(if any has bumped over 80% meanwhile)10:23
bluesabrethanks knome, that's what I was looking for10:23
slickymasterWorknone knome 10:23
knomei think that's the only worthwhile thing to do for non-LTS10:23
knomeslickymasterWork, hey :)10:23
slickymasterWorkneither the spanish, the french or the russian made it :P10:24
knomewell also, if some languages are really close, today is the time to tell the translators to take the last plunge10:24
knomehmm, occitan has 703 strings translated :P10:25
knomeno10:25
knomeuntranslated10:25
knomespanish says 26 untranslated in LP10:26
knomethat sounds like a winner10:26
knomethe french are ~70 strings away10:26
knomerussian: ~11010:26
knome(away from including)10:27
qwebirc934011I was wrong, the spanish is 96.8%10:27
knome13:26  knome: spanish says 26 untranslated in LP10:27
knome13:26  knome: that sounds like a winner10:27
bluesabreoh nice10:27
bluesabreguess I will be doing an upload for that one then10:27
qwebirc934011great10:27
knomethey should invent a web irc client that can work through disconnects or at least show the history from the channel during the last few minutes10:27
qwebirc934011or someone could improve my work connectivity 10:28
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knomelike your boss? :P10:28
slickymasterWorklol, that would be fun10:28
slickymasterWorkbrb ->10:29
bluesabrehttp://scrollback.io/10:29
bluesabrethe numix folks use it10:29
knomei guess he wouldn't be happy if you told him "the connection is too lousy to IRC, please get a better connection"10:29
knomeright10:29
knomei guess that involves a bot on the channel, right?10:31
bluesabrenot sure, but that would make sense10:31
knomeokay10:32
bluesabrehttps://scrollback.io/numix?tab=people seems to mirror #numix, none of their bots have obvious names10:32
bluesabreindicator-sound got an update yesterday10:33
bluesabreI'm scared10:33
knome:P10:34
bluesabreuh oh10:35
bluesabreabout to be kicked10:35
knome:D10:35
knomenah10:35
knome1hello10:35
knome>__<10:35
bluesabrehey knome110:36
bluesabre:P10:36
knomefirst thing i notice, it doesn't handle conflicting nicks nicely10:36
knomein scrollback, my nick is knome1, and here, the scrollback nick is obviously knome1...10:36
knomeand it seems like the interface is way too airy10:37
bluesabrescrollback1 is here too10:37
knomehttps://scrollback.io/xubuntu-devel?tab=info10:37
knomeyes, that's the bot that reads the channel10:37
knomei invited it10:37
knomethat's why i needed ops10:37
bluesabreoh10:37
bluesabrelol10:37
knomehmm10:38
bluesabreso yeah, it messes up nicks10:38
knomeyeah10:38
knomethat's stupid10:38
knomeand i can see a whopping 9 lines of text on my screen with scrollback10:38
knomethat's not very handy really10:38
bluesabreyeah, not a huge fan of the fluffiness10:38
knomeok, i'll kill this10:39
bluesabrebut, just thought I'd mention that it exists10:39
knomeyeah, good one ;)10:39
knomejust not for us10:39
knomethe whole experience is a bit meh10:43
knomethere's no way to access your personal details unless you join a room10:44
knomeand the default is to send email notifications about (i guess) pings with your nick10:44
knomebut that's not mentioned anywhere, except if you happen to find your way to the options10:44
ochosibluesabre: oh, there's a new version of indicator sound?11:07
ochosithat can11:07
ochosi't be good, can it?11:07
ochosi:)11:07
bluesabre:)11:07
elfybluesabre: appear to not be building for anyone last I looked11:35
knomeelfy, did you want to drop the qa incentives discussion from the agenda or do i just misremember?11:40
knomebluesabre, hold on a second with the docs upload.11:42
knomeelfy, could've done that for you, just wanted a confirmation :)11:42
elfyknome: LOL - I have *just this minute* removed that :)11:42
knomeyeah, i noticed...11:43
elfy:)11:43
elfyI didn't see your ping till I'd done11:44
knomeheh11:44
elfyjust catching up on mails - saw the update to it11:44
knomebluesabre, you're safe now, just pushed a tiny commit11:45
knomeUnit193, ^ fix for es.po is in trunk11:45
knomeah, finally12:45
knomewrote a gresemonkey script that converts the "Discard all messages marked Defer" to a label12:45
knomeso you don't have to hit the checkbox, you can simply click the label/text12:45
knome(and if any moderator is interested, it's definitely to share)13:15
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elfyochosi: ok - so at some point today timeout:  600    cycle:  600 appeared - nothing to do with me17:50
elfyhad a whole bunch of updates17:51
elfyhttp://pastebin.com/2dd0g6jQ17:51
elfythose this morning and these http://pastebin.com/LXM2wYdC this afternoon - pretty positive that the change in timeout occurred after this lot17:54
elfyeverything in power manager is still set to Never17:55
elfyand xset -q timeout is as above17:55
elfyI have to move the settings in xfpm to something other than Never17:56
elfythen set them to Never so that they do set to what I want17:57
elfyStandby: 0    Suspend: 0    Off: 017:57
Unit193knome: That's half the fix.18:35
knomeUnit193, aha18:35
knomeUnit193, anyway.18:35
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/9FvPm0DE5nTZpq0nGkaQ current stats.18:38
knomeyeah, i looked at the LP translation stats.18:38
Unit193No idea if the stats online differ, I should check.18:54
knomelooked like es made the cut18:54
ochosielfy: possibly the new kernel reset these settings19:32
ochosiit's odd though19:32
elfyI've got an old vm I can test that with 19:39
ochosithat'd be great19:39
elfyyea - odd indeed19:39
ochosii wonder a bit what to do about it19:39
ochosii mean it's a bit of a conceptual question19:39
ochosione way to solve this would be to just force xfpm to overrule X11's own settings if they differ19:40
ochosithe other option is to update the settings UI with the X11 value in case they differ19:40
ochosihumm, if only one day nouveau drivers would not make my fans spin all the time...19:52
knomewhat's wrong with enthusiastic fans?19:52
knome:P19:52
ochosiwell, they make me say "settle down, folks" all the time19:53
ochosiand that's exhausting19:53
geniiPlus being wasteful of electricity19:54
knomegenii, depends if the fans are ecological or not...19:55
knomegenii, but maybe you missed my crooked interpretation about "fans"19:56
* Unit193 got it. :D19:56
geniiOddly i used to have the opposite issue with the nvidia driver, the fan never got triggered and gpu overheated19:56
* genii eyeball-rolls19:56
Unit193Only one?  That's not good.19:56
elfyochosi: so kernel update didn't do it20:01
elfyentirely possible it's something else locally doing it - no-one else appears to be affected by it - or leave the times at default :)20:02
elfyochosi: so updated that completely and no change - I think I will just assume it to be a local issue which will be gone in November when it's VV here instead20:22
Unit193Oi, not going to update that soon after. :320:26
elfyI will - probably20:27
knome:)20:29
elfyjust not in vbox ... 20:29
elfyochosi: did you talk to xnox again yet?20:31
elfyI'll find out tomorrow - night all :)20:34
ali1234how do you mark a file as executable with thunar?20:54
knomei don't think you do :)20:54
Unit193Properties -> last tab20:55
ali1234doesn't work, i can only set read/write permissions20:55
knomeUnit193, yep, there's no executable bit checkbox.20:56
ali1234there is if the file is a "program" - presumably elf?20:56
Unit193Checked, it's pcmanfm that I was thinking of, my bad.20:57
ali1234it also knows about shell scripts. i wonder how that actually works?20:57
ochosihumm, is it possible that a blueman update changed the icon-name of its indicator in 14.10?20:57
knomeare there any reasons (apart that it's stupid) to mark a regular file as executable?20:57
ali1234java jars?20:58
ali1234i was just looking at this bug: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767720:58
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 7677 in general "cannot execute executable jar files" [Normal,Needinfo]20:58
ochosican anyone confirm that it's not the white bt-symbol anymore but one with a blue oval as background?20:58
ali1234https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/commit/d1772f678724de394e5b11eca10ab7de07895eac <- related?21:00
ali1234looks related to me...21:01
ali1234the icon used to be "bluetooth" now it is "blueman"21:01
ochosijust realised i had 1.99 from a ppa21:01
knome" :) "21:01
ochosiyup, but thanks for the hint ali1234 21:02
ochosii'll be ahead this time and just add the symlinks now :)21:02
ochosigah, that is sooo silly21:04
knomewhat is?21:04
ochosiwe're carrying "blueman-tray-active" etc for the *old* blueman21:05
ochosithen "bluetooth-active" for the current blueman21:05
knome" :) "21:05
ochosiand now we'll have another set of symlinks for "blueman-active" for the new one...21:05
knomehow nice of them21:15
ochosiyup21:16
ochosianyway, we support it all now21:16
ochosi(at least in git)21:16
knomecan't applications support fallbacks?21:16
ochosiyup, they can21:18
knomeyeah...21:18
ochosi(i knew it was a rhetorical question, but i felt like giving a rhetorical answer)21:18
knome:)21:18
knomeit half-was rhetorical21:19
ochosiright, i guess that does make my answer half-rhetorical too then :]21:23
knomehah21:23
ochositime to sleep, night everyone21:33
knomenighty ochosi 21:34
dkesselis there a page or document with proposals for packages to be replaced or added in 15.04?22:22
skellatdkessel: Not yet22:23
knomeumh, in what scope? all repositories? xubuntu? replaced/added in the seed?22:23
dkesselscope: xubuntu - i guess i mean replaced/added in the seed22:24
knomein that case, as skellat said, not yet22:24
dkesselok. if that happens, consider deja-dup ;)22:25

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