pittiGood morning05:42
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seb128good morning desktopers07:39
seb128hey willcooke07:45
Laneyyo yo08:04
seb128hey Laney, wie gehts?08:05
willcookehey Laney08:05
FJKonghey seb128  willcooke  Laney08:06
willcookehey FJKong :)08:06
Laneypretty good thanks08:06
seb128hey FJKong08:06
LaneyI'm excited about tomorrow08:06
Laneyhey fjk, nice hostmask08:07
willcookeha!  excellent08:07
FJKongLaney: how can you see it?08:07
Laney/whois FJKong08:07
FJKonginfo ?08:07
willcookeor in xchat just right click the name08:07
Laneyirssi all the way08:07
willcookethen see the top menu item08:07
willcookeGUI for the manager08:08
willcookenice pretty pictures08:08
larsumorning everyone!08:08
willcookemorning larsu08:08
LaneyI'm the one person who uses transparent terminals in g-t08:08
Laneyso I have my pretty background too :p08:08
larsuLaney: srsly?08:08
larsu_you_ are the reason we have that patch? :P08:09
FJKongLaney: transparent +108:09
Laneyit's not a patch yet!08:09
larsuit's not?08:13
larsuoh, 3.608:13
larsuwhat came of pitti's endeavour the other day?08:13
Laneyupstream proposed some fallback solution08:14
Laneywhy do I have "Phone Calls" and "SMS" under i-messages on my desktop now?08:42
seb128Laney, because you ran components from the telephony stack, likely through ubuntu-system-settings08:43
Laneyran them how?08:44
LaneyI mean I do have telephony-service installed through some dep chain08:44
Laneybut ...08:44
seb128it likely got dbus activated at some point08:44
seb128by something08:44
Laneywhat's the indicator looking at to populate this menu?08:44
seb128com.canonical.indicator.messages applications08:46
LaneyI think there's an API for stuff to add itself in there08:47
Laneyor something08:47
larsuya, that's the one08:48
larsuthis is one of the reasons I'm trying to push for that new API...08:48
Laneyand where does telephony stuff get inserted in there?08:48
LaneyI want to find out who to give the bug to08:48
larsuthe telephony app (or -service?) registers itself every time it starts up08:49
larsuwhich is what it should do according to the old api08:49
Laneybut before that the indicator shows a list of all applications08:49
Laneywhich seems to be using this key08:49
larsubecause that was made for the messaging menu on the desktop, where apps appear as soon as they're running08:49
larsuLaney: yes.08:49
Laneyso I want to know how telephony-service-*.desktop got in there08:50
larsuchanging the key and not restarting the app will solve this08:50
Laneyto file a bug on that component08:50
seb128Laney, don't start telephony-service if you don't want it added there08:50
seb128same, if you run e.g piding one it's added there08:50
seb128even if you never use it again08:50
Laneyso you are saying it is not a bug that I see a Phone Calls entry on a system that cannot make Phone Calls08:51
pittilarsu: which endeavour?08:51
pittilarsu: oh, for bug 1132700?08:51
ubot5bug 1132700 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal >= 3.7 requires sourcing of vte.sh login script" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113270008:51
pittilarsu: I discussed that with upstream a fair bit, and I think we have an agreement now08:51
LaneyI assume that it was bus activated from uss08:52
pittilarsu: i. e. we keep the sourcing of profile.d/vte.sh, but re-add the cwd_from_pid() as a fallback if PROMPT_COMMAND doesn't have the magic bits08:52
pittilarsu: earlier bash versions (up to intrepid) already defined PROMPT_COMMAND in /etc/skel/.bashrc, so quite some users will have it; for those we need the fallback08:53
seb128Laney, indicator-messages is not smart enough to have the "only show on system that can make $action"08:53
seb128Laney, same, if you run pidgin on a system without internet it's still going to be added08:53
seb128Laney, if you can't use it08:53
Laneythat's why I am asking where it gets inserted08:53
Laneysomeone calls some API that causes it to be added to this list08:53
seb128larsu replied to that08:53
seb128Laney, telephony-service/indicator/messagingmenu.cpp messaging_menu_app_register(mMessagesApp);08:54
seb128Laney, basically your bug is "telephony-service should bail out on systems without phony capabilities"08:55
seb128I guess08:55
seb128and do that before it does those registrations08:55
seb128Laney, I don't understand your u-s-d comment, I'm running the version in the silo, which is based on the most recent commit on that vcs08:57
LaneyI thought you meant you were using darkxst's ppa08:57
seb128what revision is supposed to fix it?08:57
seb128no, I'm using https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-02608:57
Laneythe silo would have it I'd have thought08:57
Laneythose don't have ddebs?08:57
seb128it might, I just don't know where to find them08:58
seb128they are not on https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-026/+packages08:58
seb128btw what revision is supposed to fix it?08:58
seb128the most recent commit changes g_warning calls to g_debug, which I doubt fix that08:58
seb128the previous ones are changelog edits08:59
LaneyI don't think he was VCSing the changes properly08:59
seb128and then there is the initial commit08:59
Laneythere were some iterations in the ppa08:59
seb128maybe the vcs didn't get the fix?08:59
Laneydebdiffed it, doesn't look like there's much different08:59
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Laneypitti: do these CI train PPAs build ddebs?09:00
Laneyif so, how do you get at them?09:00
pittiLaney: they should use the normal distro builders, so yes09:04
pittiLaney: while they aren't published in Ubuntu there is no Pacakges.gz to match them against, so they won't be "really" published09:05
seb128wgettable from somewhere?09:05
pittiLaney: but you can download the ddeb tarballs from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/queue/09:05
pittii. e. you need to know pacakge name and version09:05
pittithey are held in that queue until they get ref'ed by a distro/release/pocket, and then put into the pool and indexes accordingly09:06
seb128pitti, danke09:06
pittibonjour seb128, ça va ?09:06
pittiseb128: de rien09:06
seb128pitti, salut, j'ai le rhume mais sinon ça va ! et toi ?09:06
pittiseb128: ouch, bon rétablissement ! c'est l'automne :/09:07
Laneydon't see u-c-c in there09:07
pittiseb128: je vais bien; j'attends avec impatience LinuxCon/Plumbers/Washington sprint!09:07
LaneyI should search for the right package ^o)09:07
seb128Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8525860/09:09
Laneylooks like the same as before09:09
Laneysomehow it gets corrupted09:09
Laneybut previously it would happen at every suspend ?!09:09
Laneydarkxst: what did you find out?09:09
seb128Laney, comment on the mp meanwhile09:16
seb128commented even09:16
seb128Laney, I'm looking at the glibmm (mentioning in case you would have started looking at/making sure we don't dup work)09:18
Laneyoh no I didn't because you said you would09:18
larsupitti: ah, thanks. Is anyone working on that?09:18
larsuLaney: like I'm sying for quite some time now, messaging menu is a bit of a mess right now09:18
pittilarsu: not this week, I was going to look at it as a side thing next week during plumber's09:18
larsupitti: awesome thank you!09:19
Laneylarsu: I believe you, but I also believe telephony-service could just avoid calling messaging menu APIs itself09:19
seb128Laney, btw did you say you would get gtk2 uploaded with the lock/glib change?09:19
seb128good, thanks09:20
larsuLaney: they shouldn't have to for their use case, though. And they're not really testing it on desktops...09:20
seb128hum, gtk+2 didn't migrate out of proposed09:20
larsuLaney: but ya, I see your point :)09:20
larsuit's quite annoying09:20
seb128autopkgtest for unity-firefox-extension 3.0.0+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu1: Regression (Jenkins: public, private)09:20
larsuI think that's a flaw in the design, but don't let mpt know09:20
seb128"Downloading/unpacking mozmill09:21
seb128  Cannot fetch index base URL https://pypi.python.org/simple/09:21
seb128  Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement mozmill"09:21
seb128doesn't look like it has anything to do with gtk09:21
seb128Laney, ^ can we overwrite that?09:21
Laneyno, or at least not yet09:25
Laneythat sounds transient or maybe like a http_proxy problem09:25
seb128well, gtk is blocked for 6 days09:26
seb128should we just retry?09:26
Laneypitti already did09:27
mptlarsu, I think the messaging menu is a failed experiment tbh09:27
larsumpt: hm, interesting. Failed in the sense that apps weren't using it right?09:28
mptand even if it wasn’t, it would be substantially less useful now that many/most people use smartphones instead of IM clients09:28
larsuI did think it was a great idea when we first made it, but it just doesn't work right in practice09:28
mptMessages in different apps have very different importance levels, even to the same person, let alone different people. The messaging menu collapses that all into “you have new messages or not”, with the only granularity being apps opting out.09:31
Laneypitti: do you think https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-unity-firefox-extension/21/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console is proxy-ish?09:37
Laneypip is supposed to respect the env vars AFAICS09:38
pittiLaney: likely, but it succeeded on Oct 1; proxy didn't change sinc ehten09:39
pittiworth running locally in any case, to check09:40
Laneyto see if it works, you  mean?09:40
LaneyI'm guessing I won't have proxy restrictions tehre09:40
Laneythe file it's complaining about does indeed exist09:41
pittiLaney: I re-queued a run (will take a bit, there's a long queue)09:42
Laneythanks, not that hopeful though09:42
Laneygoing to try running it here09:42
Laneyyeah, works locally09:50
pittiLaney: worked again in CI, too09:55
Laneywell I never09:56
Laneymaybe it was genuinely down09:56
seb128gtk2 migrated, thanks pitti&Laney09:59
Laney"wouldn't it be nice if we had notifications of blocked migrations?"10:00
* Laney runs10:00
LaneyI wonder if you could hack up an LP API script to do that10:02
pittioh right, excuses.html doesn't have "waiting since $date"10:02
Laneyit does have "days old"10:03
pittiah right, that's useful10:03
Laneybut you need to involve LP to trace back to the uploader, I think10:04
Laneyfor example to not spam Debian maintainers in the case of autosyncs10:04
Laney1 minute lock timeout is annoying10:13
Laneycrash you stupid thing10:14
seb128Laney, do you run it under valgrind or something?10:17
Laneyjust gdb10:18
* xnox feels like I jump back on #ubuntu-* irc to complain about bugs and or supply fixes these days10:22
xnoxtoo much work and no fun.10:22
xnoxi wonder if most people end up like that.10:22
Laneyyou have all the fun on #intel-desktop?10:22
xnoxLaney: #intel-desktop?! no idea about that channel.10:23
xnoxthere is #intel-gfx, but it's all GPU and no fun.10:23
Laney#intel-uk #intel-release #intel-dmb10:23
xnoxLaney: nah, we only have #clowns10:24
LaneyI was going to say that's more scary than warthogs, but then thought again10:24
Laneythey're both pretty bad10:24
* xnox rofl10:25
Laneyhow's intelife?10:26
mptXNOX :)))))10:27
seb128hum, killing u-s-d tends to segfault compiz/unity here10:27
xnoxmpt: hey! we should do brunch this weekend. Are you free?10:27
xnoxmpt: also do we have utopic logo/background yet? (for the installer slideshow graphic)10:28
xnoxmpt: funny =))))))10:31
Sweetsharkdid all of you sufficiently hated autotools today? [ ] Yes [ ] No [ ] There is not enough time in any given day to sufficiently hate autotools10:33
LaneyTwo Minutes Hate10:34
pittiSweetshark: I used to be in the third bucket, now that I grew older I'm merely [X] Yes :)10:34
Trevinhoseb128: hey10:45
xnoxSweetshark: there is always rpmbuild to hate..... =)10:50
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seb128Trevinho, hey11:58
ochosihey xnox12:02
Trevinhoseb128: so... the CSD saga, basically at unity level all is fine, and some problems have been fixed, however, what is missing is the theme support... l3on did some work at https://code.launchpad.net/~l3on/ubuntu-themes/gnome-shell-fixes/+merge/214003 but the problem is that nautilus (and maybe something else?) has troubles witht that12:03
Trevinho(http://imgur.com/iQZnbQ6) so...12:03
Trevinhonot sure what's the best solution, whether fixing nautilus or, if that might affect other stuff12:03
seb128Trevinho, nautilus currently doesn't use GtkHeaderBar12:04
l3onseb128, no, it does... it's in NautilusToolbar.c12:04
Trevinhoone way to avoid it is to use a feature that we should backport from gtk 3.14 (https://github.com/GNOME/gtk/commit/bde4e863579f05368661347bfaf55e0480e4555c)12:04
ochosihey folks, we've noticed a regression in the latest indicator-sound update to utopic (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1379287), who would i talk to about this best?12:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379287 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Blank "Volume" notification displayed at startup and when scrolling the indicator." [Undecided,Confirmed]12:04
seb128ochosi, ted12:04
seb128or charles12:04
seb128hey btw ;-)12:05
ochosiand hey seb128 :)12:05
seb128l3on, no it doesn't12:05
* ochosi was away for a while, and i come back and indicator-sound is broken... :)12:05
seb128Trevinho, well, on utopic I still can't resize csd windows... did you ever land support in Unity for those?12:05
l3onseb128, it adds the '.header-bar' class to the widget. So .. it's displayed a GtkHeaderBar12:05
seb128l3on, the widget is not an headerbar though12:05
larsul3on, Trevinho: why do you change the headerbar theme?12:05
Trevinhoseb128: it's an approved branch12:05
larsuall that's needed is adding shadows to windows, no?12:05
Trevinholarsu: well, to have properly decorated CSD windows, with borders and shadows...12:06
seb128Trevinho, ok, would have been nice to follow up on the list discussion with the url to that, would male people happy there12:06
larsuTrevinho: right, but you don't need to change the styling of headerbars for that... nor gedit, which is also in that branch12:06
ochosiseb128: any idea what would be the best time to reach either of those two? (i mean what tz they're in etc)12:06
larsuTrevinho: please put me as reviewer on that branch and don't merge it before I took a look12:07
Trevinholarsu: well, that branch has more than what we need... Actually12:07
seb128ochosi, they should be up in the next hour, they are utc-4 or 512:07
ochosiah, good to know!12:07
ochosithanks a bunch!12:07
larsuTrevinho: right, we should have separate MRs for separate issues to make reverting easier12:08
Trevinholarsu: all I that I do care is having the proper border and curved/shadowed CSD12:08
Trevinhol3on: ^12:08
larsuTrevinho: does the unity in utopic support frame extents?12:08
larsuthis is what I was waiting for...12:08
l3onthe branch, actually, fixes issues with gtk 3.12 - one (and the biggest one) is the CSD12:09
Trevinholarsu: we don't need to, but we do support resizing as it should12:09
Trevinholarsu: the branch is approved, but not merged yet btw12:09
larsuTrevinho: I thought we do need to support that because otherwise unity/compiz think the shadows are part of the window and doesn't allow maximizing all the way12:10
seb128ochosi, they might already know about the issue, https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-sound/revert-notifications/+merge/23766412:10
Trevinholarsu: the only case i saw we need to get the extents is for some drawing effects, but not for resizing... I will add that too, btw. But I preferred to rewrite some parts of deocrations logic before12:11
Trevinholarsu: anyway, right now there are no shadows provided by the theme, then there's not this problem12:12
Trevinhowhen the theme will provide the shadows, then we'll have to manage extents (but only to handle some edge cases)12:12
larsuTrevinho: I waited to add shadows to the theme becuse they don't work in unity yet...12:13
larsuTrevinho: I asked you in Malta to fix that...12:13
ochosiseb128: wow, how did you find that so quickly? i guess i'll ask them 'bout it and if i can't get a hold of them today, i'll just add a comment somwhere there or subscribe them to the bugreport12:13
seb128ochosi, I'm subscribed to the indicators on launchpad, just looking in that mailbox for recent changes12:13
ochosicool, thanks a bunch for that!12:13
Trevinholarsu: well, actually they should work also without any unity change... I mean, the only issue I see is that the window glow when using scale/switcher might be wrong, but nothing else is broken AFAIK12:15
Trevinholarsu: the unity change to add the shadows, was needed by gtk 3.10, but not by 3.12, that doesn't care about NET_SUPPORTED anymore12:16
larsuTrevinho: I'm just testing it. I can't move windows with shadows to the borders (because frame extents is not supported) and compiz crashes when I maximize...12:17
larsuTrevinho: to be fair, it only crashes with 3.14. I can't move the window all the way to the top to maximize with 3.12 though12:20
Trevinholarsu: ah, the crash is wierd, btw as for the moving I don't see why it shouldnt'... It's up to the window to setup an input are for dragging it12:21
larsuTrevinho: edge snapping is thus also broken, as is the switcher (like you said). I don't think these are acceptable tradeoffs for shadows...12:21
larsuTrevinho: I can move it, but it stops before the panel, because unity thinks the window starts where the shadow starts12:22
Trevinholarsu: no, but I had to do a major work on decorations before, now adding the extents should be trivial...12:22
larsuTrevinho: will we get it this cycle?12:22
larsu(please :) )12:22
Laneynot sure about major work two weeks out of the release12:23
seb128larsu, don't count on it for this cycle12:23
TrevinhoLaney: these are fixes, but they needed to reorder the stuff12:23
larsuthis is why I told you about this at the beginning of the cycle12:23
larsuand said it was important12:23
Trevinhoyeah, but... well we had securty issues that were much more unfortunately :/12:24
larsuuh oh :)12:25
Trevinhoanyway I don't think is something major in terms of changes for compiz, so let's still see12:25
* Sweetshark tried to give bzr another try ...12:25
* Sweetshark still starts hating bzr by using it.12:26
larsuSweetshark: and your house caught on fire?12:26
Sweetsharklarsu: not yet. why? is that an expected sideeffect of using bzr?12:28
seb128Trevinho, is there a list somewhere of things your team is working on/a priority order for your work?12:30
seb128bregma, ^12:30
seb128so we can have visibility if things we need are likely to happen or not12:30
seb128like that csd work we needed and is not going to land in utopic12:30
larsuSweetshark: I can imagine several scenarios, yeah. Most of them involve someone going insane12:31
bregmaseb128, not really:  priority was lockscreen and scaling fixes, that's about it12:31
seb128bregma, can we get gtk-csd support on there for next cycle?12:31
seb128bregma, that's blocking us to update some apps12:31
bregmaseb128, we can do that12:32
seb128that would be great12:32
larsubregma: thanks12:32
seb128seems Trevinho is on it, so I guess it's going to be fine12:32
l3onseb128, that's a problem with GTK3.14 (so, maybe next cycle) .. theme is full incompatible12:32
seb128but just to make sure it actual lands ;-)12:32
seb128thanks bregma Trevinho!12:32
larsul3on: what do you mean?12:32
l3onlarsu, open your gnome-tweak-tool  ... this is the GTK3.14 version with ambiance -> http://i.imgur.com/xFWpfoH.png12:34
seb128l3on, looks fine?12:34
l3on.button class everywhere (don't know why) and checkbox images does not work12:34
seb128that's not how it's supposed to look, ok12:35
seb128I was rather looking at the decorations ;-)12:35
larsul3on: it's gnome-tweak-tool that changed12:35
larsul3on: but yeah, they're lots of things using .flat.button, I saw that when adding support for popovers12:36
larsul3on: not terribly hard to fix12:36
seb128what are flat.button?12:36
seb128buttons without borders?12:36
larsuseb128: things that have css classes "flat" and "button"12:36
l3onlarsu, I started working on gtk 3.14 and ambiance .. it seemed not so simple to fix12:36
larsuseb128: yes, they use it for exactly that12:36
seb128what was used instead of those before?12:37
larsuseb128: lots of different things depening on the widgets. For example, popover items use "menuitem"12:37
larsuseb128: it makes a lot of sense to not have a separate style class for every widget though, to make themes smaller and easier to change12:37
l3onseb128, it's like a new GtkGrid, which auto-add .button class12:37
larsuseb128: this seems to be an effort towards that12:37
l3onit's called like "ButtonRows" ..12:38
l3ondon't remember.12:38
larsuthat's in gtk?12:38
larsuor in tweaktool?12:38
l3onyep .. 3.1412:38
l3on> GtkListBox <12:39
larsuoh, listbox has been in there for a while now12:39
Sweetsharklarsu: assuming insanity is a boolean, not something measured by a continuous function, there is little additional risk at this point then.12:41
larsuhaha :D12:41
* larsu remembers tht Sweetshark regularly builds LO and nods12:42
willcookeqengho,g'morning.  are you online yet?12:54
qenghowillcooke: hi hi12:59
tedochosi, Yeah, it was reverted for a few bugs. But MacSlow|lunch is actually the man there.13:14
tedochosi, I've added your bug to the list of ones that need resolution on the MR to reenable the notifications. https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-sound/synchronous-notification/+merge/23766613:15
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seb128Laney, does the glibmm2.4 needs a ffe?13:20
l3onbytheway .. IMHO .. Ambiance and Radiance could be rewritten, forking adwaita .. it's awesome, it's written in scss, and it has some cool (useless) effects :)13:27
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MacSlowted, ehm... volume-notification related?!13:29
ochosited: ok thanks for adding it to the monitor and good to know! so the reverted version will get released/uploaded before 14.10 final i presume?13:30
ochosihey MacSlow13:30
ochosiin xubuntu we noticed that after the most recent indicator-sound update the notifications were buggy13:30
MacSlowochosi, hey there... what's up?13:30
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379287 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Blank "Volume" notification displayed at startup and when scrolling the indicator." [Undecided,Confirmed]13:30
ochosithat's the report ^13:31
MacSlowochosi, yeah... it turns out that there's nobody who looked into phone-desktop convergence issues... the patch being reverted for the moment as more related issues turned up13:32
ochosiyup, understandable13:32
ochosiagain, thanks for keeping this on the radar!13:32
Laneyseb128: don't know, what changes are in it?13:36
seb128Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibmm2.4/+bug/137934413:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379344 in glibmm2.4 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Update glibmm to 2.42" [Undecided,New]13:36
Laneyis that a sync?13:38
seb128I did test built/run it locally13:38
Laneylaunchpad is being extremely slow13:38
seb128it's in Debian testing already13:38
seb128Laney, btw, I managed to reproduce the u-s-d segfault13:38
seb128it happens every time I go to unity-greeter13:39
seb128e.g change user from the session indicator13:39
* seb128 comments on the mr saying that13:39
Laneythis is a different trace13:41
Laneybut I have that too13:41
seb128ah, I didn't look at the bt yet13:43
seb128just noticed while testing something else13:43
seb128when I come back to my session I get apport13:43
seb128well, at least it's an issue easy to trigger so that should be debuggable13:44
* Sweetshark shakes angry old man fist.14:06
Sweetsharkseb128 seems to be able to sense when someone wants to trick him into codereview and upload ...14:07
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Sweetsharkanyone volunteering to review/upload: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+junk/ixion-autoreconf/revision/5?start_revid=5 ?15:09
Sweetsharkseb128: old friend!15:20
* Sweetshark just said: anyone volunteering to review/upload: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+junk/ixion-autoreconf/revision/5?start_revid=5 ?15:20
Sweetsharkseb128: that is to unblock the dep-wait of liborcus on libixion, which is a Bad Thing(tm) (see bug 1349859)15:21
ubot5bug 1349859 in liborcus (Ubuntu Utopic) "[MIR] libixion (b-d of liborcus)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134985915:21
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seb128Sweetshark, hey, can you have a look15:58
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Sweetsharkseb128: huh?16:01
seb128Sweetshark, you need a reviewer/uploader?16:01
seb128Sweetshark, doh, sorry, dealing with a stack of pings16:02
seb128I meant 'I can have a look' ;-)16:02
Sweetsharkseb128: heh, np.16:03
Sweetsharkseb128: thanks.16:03
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seb128Laney, did you have any opinion on the glibmm ffe?16:44
Laneyoh, yeah, sorry, seems fine16:44
seb128should I just go ahead and do the sync?16:44
Laneylemme comment quickly16:44
seb128it's not going to be linked to the lp bug if it's a direct sync16:44
willcookeright, I'm off for dinner.  I'm helping out at Beavers tonight (not a strip club, sadly)16:47
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seb128is that new that the music/rb stops on screen blanking?17:18
seb128or another u-s-d/idle issue?17:18
Sweetsharkseb128, pitti: so ... im looking into the ftbfs of dict-ve and dict-ss. I fixed them for hunspell, but aspell is still broken. FWIW, dict-ve disabled aspell dicts a long time ago, and, given that apell is mostly obsolete, I wonder if it is ok to disable aspell in dict-ss too. any opinions?18:33
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darkxstLaney, hi20:29
darkxstdoes removing a device work ok with your patch?20:31
darkxstsince the idle monitor object won't actually get removed20:31
Laneyi didn't try20:31
Laneyfeel free to find the right place to put an unref if you can find it20:31
darkxstI will have a look a bit later20:33
LaneyI tried pairing them in on_device_added and on_device_removed but it didn't fix the crash20:34
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darkxstwhat triggered the crash?20:37
Laneyif you use the sesion indicator to go to a guest session, then log out and back in to your normal account20:41
Laneythere's some kind of double free of a GdkDevice but it happens in a callback so hard to tell where it comes from20:41
LaneyI just tried removing a device, what would you expect to break?20:42
willcookecanhaz Netflix20:42
Laneysaw something about that20:44
Laneyshame you need out of archive non-free software :-)20:44
willcookeyeah, true enough - but one step at a time20:44
willcookeI dont see a FOSS DRM library happening anytime soon20:45
willcookeor rather20:45
willcookeI dont see the big content providers supporting one20:45
Laneyoh well20:46
Laneydarkxst: ^^^ question up there20:46
Laneyquick, before I start playing borderlands20:46
darkxstLaney, I don't know what could happen, so long as it doesnt crash20:58
Laneyeach of the plugins has a callback to remove the device from their list of managed devices21:03
darkxstbut you will have a idle monitor/gdkdevice object without the actual device backing it21:03
Laneythere might be a leak of a GdkDevice possibly21:03
Laneyway preferable to a crash though :p21:03
Laneythankfully I don't see any bug like seb128 was talking about above :-)21:20
Laneymusic keeps playing after a screen blank/lock21:20
darkxstthat would seem idle monitor related though21:24
robert_ancellmhall119, where is the code/bug reporter for myapps.developer.ubuntu.com?23:20

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