[06:49] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:03] <MooDoo> Any one done the linux foundation ubuntu exam?
[07:51] <diplo> Morning MooDoo, I've not but have debated doing it a few times
[07:52] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah I'm thinking about doing it now...I noticed there was an ubuntu optionm
[07:52] <diplo> Let me know if you do, may do it at the same time :)
[07:52] <MooDoo> hehe yeah ok :) $300 :S
[07:54] <diplo> That's my biggest issue is the cost, work don't do any sort of courses ever
[07:54] <diplo> Guys who have been here 20 years still haven't done one course :/
[07:55] <SuperMatt> what kind of course?
[07:56] <MooDoo> I've saved for it, so luckily I have the money for it already
[07:56] <SuperMatt> a linux course
[07:56] <SuperMatt> I've done many
[07:57] <SuperMatt> and it looks like I'll be doing my rhcsa for rhel 7 before the year is out
[07:57] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: nice :)
[07:59] <diplo> I'd like to do my RHCE as well
[08:01] <MooDoo> me three :D
[08:01] <MooDoo> linux foundation exam first though
[08:10] <SuperMatt> tbh, might as well jump straight in to rhel and forget foundation because the rhel exam proves you can do it
[08:12] <diplo> but the RHEL is £1200 ish ?
[08:13] <MooDoo> yeah
[08:14] <MooDoo> seen this diplo http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/100-off-linux-foundation-certification-for-ubuntu-members/1915
[08:14] <MooDoo> diplo: if you're an ubuntu member
[08:16] <diplo> I saw a post didn't read it
[08:17] <MooDoo> $100 off the linux profession exam if you're an ubuntu member
[08:17] <diplo> Not a member though :/
[08:18] <MooDoo> diplo: no me neither
[08:47] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Fire Prevention Day! :-D
[08:50] <foobarry> i move offices today \o/
[08:51] <foobarry> out of the windowless basement
[08:51] <foobarry> into the skies
[08:54] <JamesTait> foobarry, you're moving offices?
[08:58] <foobarry> 3 flights upstairs
[08:58] <foobarry> 6th desk move in 2 yrs
[08:58] <foobarry> i haz 6crates+ to move :S
[09:02]  * davmor2 sets a fire so he can put it out to celebrate
[09:02] <awilkins> www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
[09:03] <awilkins> The link-comment-bot is dead then
[09:03] <JamesTait> foobarry, you keep your offices in crates in the windowless basement? Are they heavy?
[09:04] <SuperMatt> I'm going to be changing desks on monday
[09:28] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:29] <zmoylan-pi> greetings carbon based lifeforms
[09:32] <brobostigon> morning zmoylan-pi
[09:44] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon zmoylan-pi :) how are you both today?
[09:44] <zmoylan-pi> pondering coffee...
[09:46] <MooDoo> ooo good plan
[09:46] <zmoylan-pi> and for an encore some form of choccy biccie to enhance the coffee experience
[09:48] <brobostigon> MooDoo: not bad, and you?
[09:52] <MooDoo> brobostigon: yeah I'm ok thanks, can't believe it's nearly 11am already.
[09:53] <brobostigon> MooDoo: :). yes times flies fast sometimes.
[09:53] <zmoylan-pi> so a meeting free zone then? :-)
[09:54] <MooDoo> already had my meetings lol
[09:55] <zmoylan-pi> did you sleep through them making them go faster? :-)
[09:55] <MooDoo> unfortunately not, it was regarding a bloomin heavy ups
[09:56] <zmoylan-pi> is there any ups that doesn't weigh a tonne?
[09:57] <brobostigon> i suspect not.
[09:58] <popey> late brekkie \o/
[09:58] <popey> scrambled egg with flakes of chilli on a toasted bagel
[09:58] <popey> nomety nom
[09:58] <popey> I feel 1,000,000 times better!
[10:01] <DJones> Sheesh, I hate phone calls when staff ring up complaining the deductions from wages are too much and what can they do about it
[10:02] <dutchie> popey: ooh that sounds tasty
[10:02] <DJones> All I could say was invent a time machine, travel back in time a few years and have a vasectomy, then the Child support agency wouldn't be chasing him
[10:03] <zmoylan-pi> emigrate?
[10:03]  * MooDoo is looking at having mexican for tea, not sure what to make though
[10:04] <DJones> MooDoo: Gold tequila in a pint glass
[10:05] <MooDoo> DJones: oh dear....
[10:06] <Myrtti> DJones: if you cry into the pint you have the salt trim too
[10:07] <DJones> Nice thought
[10:14] <MooDoo> hmmm pint, that sounds good
[10:16] <davmor2> Morning all, Todays tune is Tubular bells
[10:20] <MooDoo> ooo forgot about that...
[10:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: and now it's in your head too, you're welcome, and 2 slightly distorted guitars
[10:22] <MooDoo> davmor2: i just happen to be on spotify, so it's on now
[10:25] <MooDoo> although web player on ubuntu never works quite right for me.
[10:27] <MooDoo> everyone enjoy oggcamp then?
[10:28] <davmor2> MooDoo: I just have the webpage open seems fine here
[10:29] <MooDoo> yeah it seems to be a pain when i view my music
[10:33] <popey> yeah, exhausted
[10:34] <MooDoo> looked once again a great event
[10:36] <popey> yeah, it was great
[10:36] <popey> saturday night i think we spent about 5 hours straight playing games
[10:36] <Laney> MooDoo: you going beer fest?
[10:36] <Laney> sorry beer and cider fest
[10:37] <Laney> (the wrath of camra)
[10:37] <MooDoo> Laney: aren't the tickets sold out now?
[10:38] <Laney> yep
[10:38] <MooDoo> then no :D
[10:38] <Laney> fail
[10:38] <MooDoo> to be honest totally forgot about it,
[10:39] <MooDoo> never really liked it since it moved from victoria baths.
[10:40] <Laney> I think it has good roamability at the castle
[10:40] <Laney> does get pretty packed
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> and more equipped to keep out the gate crashers? :-p
[10:42] <Laney> you could totally climb up the rock
[10:42] <Laney> ...
[10:42] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: when it was at the baths, there wasn't gate crashers, it was more respectable and smaller, now it's just commercialised nonsense
[10:46] <Laney> wow
[10:46] <MooDoo> gumblemode off
[10:46] <Laney> I think they just moved to a bigger venue because it was too popular to fit there
[10:48] <MooDoo> ah i'm just a grumpy so and so....lol miss my faggots and chips lol
[10:49]  * zmoylan-pi eyes beans on toast for lunch
[10:50] <MooDoo> i see the ubuntu uk page on facebook hasn't been updated since nov 2013 lol
[11:14] <popey> Yeah,. pffft facebook, who uses _that_!?
[11:17] <awilkins> I think it's a well-recognised truth that Facebook uses *you*....
[11:17] <zmoylan-pi> if the page is unupdated, maybe it's because it's getting no engagement on facebook
[11:17] <Laney> I signed up to ello yesterday
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> not the 1st place i think of when i think of technical/tech curious people
[11:18] <awilkins> Some of us signed up to Ello
[11:18] <awilkins> It's comedically awful hipstercode
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> only one i use is twitter and i can see myself giving up on that
[11:18] <awilkins> I like Twitter, I don't like their official Android client any more, because it has permissions creeop
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> oh and diaspora as it's super geeky
[11:19] <awilkins> Any recommendations for an OSS twitter client for Android?
[11:19] <zmoylan-pi> plume is what i use on android, ads are annoying but it's like tweetdeck used to be
[11:26] <foobarry> i use plume because multi accounts but the ads are really annoying
[11:26] <foobarry> and the premium vrsion is too expensive
[12:22] <popey> I have a british problem
[12:22] <popey> http://www.reddit.com/r/britishproblems/comments/2ir3zk/the_man_from_the_electricty_board_is_sheltering/
[12:23] <MooDoo> just open the door, make him move and say "good Day"
[12:25] <Myrtti> take him a cup of tea
[12:25] <Myrtti> I almost offered a mug to the DPD courier that brought the new toner cartridge
[12:25] <MooDoo> I work next door to a dpd in nottingham so easy to get parcels delivered to me, in fact i go collect them :D
[12:27] <zmoylan-pi> as you leave hand him a cheap umberella?
[12:28] <knightwise> hey MooDoo Myrtti zmoylan-pi
[12:28] <zmoylan-pi> hey knightwise
[12:28] <MooDoo> howdy knightwise how are you on this fine day
[12:29] <knightwise> doing ok :) Working from home today .. Work laptop on the left , linux laptop on the right .. you know how it is
[12:29] <MooDoo> yeah, work laptop on the left, home laptop on my right
[12:30] <directhex> here i am
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> laptop in front of me,  sshed into the pi behind me :-p
[12:30] <directhex> stuck in the middle with an ipad
[12:30] <knightwise> haha :) I'm working on a macbook air .. So
[12:30] <knightwise> running 14.04
[12:31] <Myrtti> Finland has postal ninjas that come to the door, supposedly knock, then leave after scribbling a note that a parcel didn't fit through and nobody was at home.
[12:31] <MooDoo> nice, just installed 14.04 this morning on mine, thinking about doing the upgrade to 14.10 seeing as it's about 3 weeks away
[12:31] <Myrtti> We, however, seem to have a postal troll.
[12:32] <knightwise> belgian postal office workers get stuck licking stamps from time to time
[12:32] <knightwise> they are so slow the glue dries halfway through the lick
[12:32] <Myrtti> one came about today, fiddled around the mail hatch, fiddled with the lid, left. Went to check: no mail.
[12:32] <knightwise> lid-fiddlers ...
[12:32] <knightwise> pervo's !
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, it's getting to the point you need a grid of detection lasers to notice the postal ninjas :-)
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> or a bear trap
[12:36] <diplo> Postal guy for me is an old friend, and all other deliveries I get sent to work so win win for me
[12:37] <diplo> + he lives about 200 yards up the road as well + I get post once a fornight if that \o/
[12:37] <christel> i like living in the sticks -- the postman asked if he could sign for my parcels and leave them in my back porch if i was out <3
[12:40] <MooDoo> that sounds awesoem
[12:40] <MooDoo> living in the sticks rocks
[12:41] <knightwise> I've made a promise to buy all my tech stuff online this year
[12:41] <knightwise> no more impulse buying in the shop
[12:41] <MooDoo> knightwise: how long will that last lol
[12:42] <knightwise> been going pretty well actually
[12:42] <knightwise> I allmost bought a chromebook .. thought about it , researched it .. and decided not to
[12:42] <MooDoo> yay
[12:42] <knightwise> we also cut the cord and canceled out cable subscription 2 months ago and thats going fine too
[12:43] <knightwise> i'm realy trying to become more aware when i'm being "herded" into buying something i dont need
[12:43] <MooDoo> wow, i must admin everything online that I used i cancelled, the only think I can think I have is netflix
[12:44] <knightwise> saying goodbye to Radio and Tv helps a lot in that account.
[12:44] <knightwise> MooDoo: We have netflix , but I havent used it a lot.
[12:44] <knightwise> Bbc iplayer + youtube
[12:44] <knightwise> and some torrentz
[12:44] <knightwise> we just dont watch that much TV anymore
[12:44] <MooDoo> yeah about the same here.....strange we have virgin for broadband sky for telly and i watch most on the pooter
[12:45] <knightwise> Same here  We watch a LOT via plex and chromecast
[12:46] <MooDoo> I've had a chromecast plugged in for ages, barely use it
[12:46] <knightwise> Daily , we have one in the living room and one in the bedroom
[12:50] <diplo> Keep debating buying one myself
[12:51] <knightwise> its not that expensive .. See it as a "line in" for your tv
[12:51] <zmoylan-pi> use a pi instead as it's more flexible?
[12:51] <MooDoo> they are handy if you have things to stream
[12:51] <diplo> 1 x hdmi slot ( Old old LCD )
[12:51] <diplo> :/
[12:51] <awilkins> Yeah, the main thing holding me back from upgrades to my media setup is SD vs HD
[12:51] <diplo> Too skint to buy new telly really
[12:51] <awilkins> I have a 15 year old MythTV box
[12:51] <awilkins> Ancient Sempron running it
[12:52] <awilkins> But it just keeps going
[12:52] <diplo> I have a Revo + microserver
[12:52] <awilkins> But SD out only
[12:52] <awilkins> If I get a new screen I'd have to replace the lot
[12:52] <knightwise> I have our mac mini hooked up to the tv .. it s our media machine but also our VM host and stuff
[12:52] <awilkins> I am entering a new job where I think I will probably have a need for a server
[12:53] <awilkins> Don't know whether to get hosting out there or host it at home
[12:53] <knightwise> small question. I would love to install Feednix
[12:53] <knightwise> but what packace do I actually download here  ? https://github.com/Jarkore/Feednix
[12:54] <awilkins> Package? That's a Git repo
[12:54] <awilkins> Confronted with that I'd clone the repo and build it
[12:54] <diplo> yeah looks like a build from source
[12:55] <awilkins> Or use a PPA : https://launchpad.net/~unity-webapps-feedly/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[12:55] <awilkins> .. which isn't up to date
[12:55] <diplo> hah was just gooingling that myself
[12:55] <knightwise> erm .. clone the repo ?
[12:55] <knightwise> how do i do that again ?
[12:55] <awilkins> Which dead PPA can mean that the package was accepted of course
[12:56] <awilkins> knightwise, it's a Git repository. Git is a version control system. You need to install Git, and do
[12:56] <awilkins> git clone https://launchpad.net/~unity-webapps-feedly/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[12:56] <awilkins> Oops
[12:56] <awilkins> git clone https://github.com/Jarkore/Feednix.git
[12:56] <awilkins> Then you need to build it...
[12:57] <awilkins> There's a unity thing for it too...  ;https://github.com/eudennis/unity-webapps-feedly
[12:57] <knightwise> ok , i did the clone git command bu t.. now what ?
[12:57] <awilkins> cd Feednix
[12:58] <awilkins> make
[12:58] <awilkins> See what happens
[12:58] <knightwise> the site says i should run the autogetn.sh scipt ,
[12:58] <awilkins> Sounds like you should then
[12:58] <knightwise> but ..where is it ?
[12:58] <knightwise> aha
[12:58] <awilkins> In the folder you just clojned
[12:58] <knightwise> found ti
[12:58] <awilkins> Building packages from source is Linux in "Veteran" mode
[12:59] <awilkins> If you want "hard mode" you use something like Arch or Gentoo
[13:00] <knightwise> grrr error in the autogen.sh script
[13:13] <awilkins> knightwise, It's usually missing dependencies
[13:14] <awilkins> knightwise, If you can work out what it is, install that package, but with a -dev on the end
[13:14] <awilkins> That installs the headers so the compiler can build things that call those libraries
[13:20] <knightwise> ok , i'll try to give it a go
[13:22] <diplo> knightwise,
[13:22] <diplo> If it's ubuntu below where it tells you to make there is a list of dependancies Ubuntu needs
[13:23] <diplo> Thank you @chrisjohnston for mentioning the following dependencies for Ubuntu:
[13:23] <diplo> sudo apt-get install dh-autoreconf libjsoncpp-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libncurses5-dev
[13:36] <knightwise> Igot it :)
[13:37] <knightwise> now to work out the config file
[13:37] <brobostigon> :)
[13:39] <knightwise> pretty interesting stuff :) i love these little command line apps :)
[13:40] <selinuxium> Hi all... I have one server in a data centre. I want a warm/hot standby in another DC... What tech could/should I use to keep things in sync? gluster? ceph? zfs? I have no idea where to start... :)
[13:44] <diplo> drbd ?
[13:44] <diplo> drbd.org
[13:44] <diplo> I think
[13:51] <davmor2> MooDoo: new tune of the day Sash! Ecuador
[13:53] <intrbiz> selinuxium: I'd second DRBD if you want to replicate data, or you could just use something like rsync, depending on your requirements
[13:54] <selinuxium> I'll look into it..  :)
[13:56] <MooDoo> davmor2: lana del rey
[13:57] <MooDoo> davmor2: although just put on sah
[13:57] <MooDoo> sash
[14:10] <davmor2> MooDoo: and now you're smiling right?
[14:15] <MooDoo> yeah lol
[14:16] <davmor2> MooDoo: it's just one of those tunes you can't help it :)
[14:17] <davmor2> MooDoo: Corona Rhythm of the night
[14:18] <MooDoo> oh now your dragging them out.
[14:18] <davmor2> MooDoo: I have a long, long list of them.
[14:19] <davmor2> MooDoo: Starts at 2Ulimited and ends at ZZtop
[14:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: Outhere Brothers Wiggle, and boom boom boom, but find the radio edit if you are work :)
[14:21] <shauno> not often you'll find someone who'll admit that in public ;)
[14:23] <davmor2> shauno: 2unlimited was on a compilation cd but it is in my music library, also it is a tune that puts a smile on my face which is all I want from music
[14:24] <zmoylan-pi> no 1direction? :-)
[14:24] <shauno> but .. outhere brothers?
[14:25] <davmor2> shauno: hahaha
[14:26] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: you must be mistaking me for dick_turpin
[14:26] <zmoylan-pi> no i wouldn't be that mean :-)
[14:26] <shauno> I actually remember getting that album.  or rather, I remember bribing my best friend's sister's boyfriend to buy it for us, because woolies were quite strict about the naughty label.
[14:33] <MooDoo> any one know a quick way of disabling fast user switching un ubuntu lts desktop?
[14:35] <davmor2> MooDoo: no
[14:36] <davmor2> shauno: haha
[14:41] <MooDoo> it's ok i've sussed it
[14:42] <popey> turns out the electricity board guys have dug a big hole in my garden
[14:42] <popey> without telling me
[14:42] <popey> "I did knock on your door, heh!"
[14:43] <diddledan> are they even allowed to do that?
[14:43] <popey> i dunno.
[14:43] <diddledan> I would have thought private property meant that
[14:43] <zmoylan-pi> claim that they've descecrated fluffies last resting place?
[14:50] <foobarry> anyone know someone looking for a job?
[14:51] <foobarry> linux job
[14:51] <foobarry> all round geeky dude job
[14:51] <diplo> o/ but you're too far away :/
[14:51] <foobarry> vmware job
[14:51] <foobarry> lots of jobs, me
[14:53] <MooDoo> foobarry: at a uni right?
[14:53] <foobarry> https://www.hpc.qmul.ac.uk/twiki/bin/view/HPC/VacantPosts
[14:53] <foobarry> yesh
[14:53] <foobarry> lots of holiday, and good working hours
[14:53] <foobarry> and nice team
[14:53] <Myrtti> it's really tipping down in Cambridgeshire
[14:53] <Myrtti> good golly
[14:55] <popey> the engineers are getting rained on.
[15:28] <davmor2> MooDoo: I'm too sexy for my shirt
[15:38] <davmor2> MooDoo: Sunchyme dario g with the back beat from life in a north town
[15:38] <davmor2> northern
[15:48] <davmor2> Ice, Ice baby
[16:45] <Azelphur> hey folks, how do I find out where the oyster card comes into effect? I'm training down from Margate and want to switch to Oyster at the earliest possible for the cheaper fees
[16:46] <Azelphur> all the coaches are booked :<
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: I think TFL has a list?
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> or a map
[16:48] <daftykins> or a helpline!
[16:49] <Azelphur> actually yea, the helpline is pretty useful, should just not dick about and call them.
[16:49] <daftykins> yeah, someone online could be wrong
[16:49] <daftykins> i've been in a pub before when mainlanders have been having a huge discussion about the right motorway to take to get from A to B
[16:50] <daftykins> it's hilariously painful ;D
[16:50] <Azelphur> haha
[16:52] <popey> my father in law spends hours planning journeys
[16:52] <popey> i use google maps
[16:53] <directhex> i just use my car's satnav
[16:54] <directhex> 2006 map disc, no postcode db
[17:00] <daftykins> there's a neat free downloadable-maps app on android a friend pointed me to
[17:00] <daftykins> 'NavFree' i think it's called
[17:02] <popey> I've been using HERE mostly recently
[17:04] <ali1234> Azelphur: using the oyster as much as possible may not be the cheapest way to do it
[17:51] <MartijnVdS> popey: thanks for retweeting that BBC tweet :)
[17:52] <MartijnVdS> popey: configured my PVR (software) to record that now ;)
[18:03] <Myrtti> what programme?
[18:20] <MooDoo> evening all
[18:20] <daftykins> heya
[18:20] <popey> word
[18:21] <DJones> Yo man
[18:21] <MooDoo> utopic safe enough to upgrade to?
[18:22] <daftykins> when you have backups, of course!
[18:22] <MooDoo> new install so not restored anything yet :D , so might just do it :d
[18:22] <MooDoo> back in a bit if it works lol
[18:23] <dutchie> Myrtti: cat watch i assume
[18:23] <dutchie> if i've got the right tweet
[18:25] <davmor2> MooDoo: you back yet?
[18:26] <DJones> davmor2: MooDoo Has only not spoken for 2 minutes, give him chance
[18:27] <davmor2> DJones: how long does it take to click on a few button and type in a username and password for crying out loud :)
[18:30] <DJones> davmor2: I'd guess about 24hours
[18:30] <davmor2> DJones: I bet MooDoo will use some random developer excuse like it was compiling ;)
[18:30] <Myrtti> dutchie: thankies
[18:31] <DJones> davmor2: Nah, its MooDoo, the excuse will involve somthing like coudln't be arse'd
[18:31] <DJones> Can't blame him for that
[18:31] <davmor2> DJones: no I bet MooDoo will pull this old china out of the hat.....It was installing
[18:32] <DJones> davmor2: Yeah, but blue screen of death
[18:33] <davmor2> haha
[19:48] <MooDoo> well that upgrade worked :d
[20:01] <MartijnVdS>  \o/
[20:01] <MartijnVdS> working upgrades are good :)
[20:01] <popey> yay
[20:07] <davmor2> MooDoo: Culture beat mr vain
[20:11] <davmor2> MooDoo: and more important, this beat is, this beat is, this beat is......
[21:03] <MooDoo> davmor2: oh you shush now :D
[22:11] <Azelphur> I think I just created the worlds most expensive portable fan https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=42f9829b204f8f8f8be45252124ea054
[22:12] <diddledan> lol
[22:12] <diddledan> I wonder what the runtime is on that
[22:13] <Azelphur> hehe, good question :P
[22:24] <diddledan> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191754-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-by-third-party-researchers-seems-to-have-1-million-times-the-energy-density-of-gasoline
[22:25] <diddledan> I want to believe but my scepticals won't let me
[22:26] <diddledan> if it really is that dense in energy and it doesn't require as much energy to create .. then wow
[22:30] <ali1234> looks like the "experiment" was completely set up by the inventor of this device, with the researchers merely being allowed to observe
[22:31] <diddledan> there's several blogs about claiming it's fake
[22:32] <zmoylan-pi> it's fusion, it'll happen in 20-30 years
[22:32] <ali1234> oh look they have renders of what the final product will look like, that's another massive red flag
[22:32] <zmoylan-pi> or are we at 10-20 years away yet?
[22:32] <diddledan> but nobody giving the "incontrovertible evidence" against that they demand in favour of the device
[22:33] <ali1234> there are scams like this every year
[22:33] <diddledan> basically it's vapour in both directions as far as I can tell
[22:33] <diddledan> nobody with proof it works and nobody with proof it doesn\t
[22:33] <zmoylan-pi> we'll know someone has cracked fusion when the price of volcano secret lairs has a price bubble :-)
[22:33] <ali1234> that's like asking for proof that david copperfield didn't really fly over the great wall of china of whatever he did
[22:35] <ali1234> if it was real, there would be no need for the inventor to carry out these staged demonstrations for proof