[00:00] <oeuvre> GAME OEUVRE.
[00:00] <ilhami> gothicspeaker,  hehe :) didn't he create that user?
[00:00] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: it's your last try to login w/o password
[00:00] <Kaedenn> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.4.9-4ubuntu2.4_amd64.deb, getting a 404 trying to install this
[00:01] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: yes, I tried to log in that account too
[00:01] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: The strange thing is, the user seems to exist today according to my log, not yesterday
[00:01] <gothicspeaker> Oct  9 00:37:26 roel-A6VA lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "stream"
[00:01] <gothicspeaker> this is the first place where he shows up
[00:01] <Lioncourt> problem. I have ubuntu server 14.04 with DRBL  handling dhcp/tftp/nfs for diskless clients. I believe clonezilla handles the imagexs for my slaves. My client boxes have two NIC's. the file system they get served doesn't get assigned IP address from dhcp server, please hjelp
[00:01] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: but maybe your'e hacked indeed. try to find in logs creation of that user
[00:02] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: Which logs?
[00:02] <gothicspeaker> This log only goes back to oct 8
[00:02] <gothicspeaker> /var/log/auth.log     is what I mean here
[00:02] <gothicspeaker> no wait, oct 5
[00:02] <ilhami> check system logs :)
[00:02] <gothicspeaker> where are they?
[00:03] <ilhami> /var/log
[00:03] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: there should be auth.log.1 too
[00:03] <gothicspeaker> /var/log/syslog   gives me:   access denied
[00:03] <ilhami> open from terminal?
[00:04] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: Nobody called stream. It's only from today :S
[00:04] <gothicspeaker> wildwind: I registered at a localization forum and I logged in at the Firefox developers site today, might there be someone there trying to hack?
[00:05] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, we can't really know. :D
[00:05] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: I ask again is sshd installed in your system
[00:05] <gothicspeaker> when I type sshd in a command line
[00:05] <gothicspeaker> it says it isn't installed
[00:06] <daftykins> it's not a package, it's the SSH daemon installed by the package openssh-server
[00:07] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: ls -l /etc/passwd
[00:07] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: what date/time it has?
[00:08] <ilhami> can't he do: "ps aux | grep sshd" ?
[00:08] <gothicspeaker> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1687 okt  9 01:07  /etc/passwd
[00:08] <gothicspeaker> but I live in the Netherlands
[00:09] <ilhami> thats like an hour ago.
[00:09] <gothicspeaker> when I type ufw
[00:09] <gothicspeaker> it says
[00:09] <gothicspeaker> not enough args
[00:09] <wildwind> ilhami: he can, but sshd isn't necessarily running now
[00:09] <gothicspeaker> Is it ok if
[00:09] <gothicspeaker> I try to remove 'stream'?
[00:10] <Finetundra> can someone reccomend me a distro for an older machine?
[00:10] <daftykins> Finetundra: what are the specifications of this system?
[00:10] <ilhami> gothicspeaker, it would be nice to know if there actually is a hacker.. :)
[00:10] <gothicspeaker> ilhami: Yeah, everything looks fine so I don't know
[00:10] <Kaedenn> I'm getting this on a dozen or so URLs, causing apt-get install not to install much: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[00:10] <AR45> daftykins:
[00:10] <wildwind> gothicspeaker: try to remember who (you?) and what did at you computer at that time
[00:11] <gothicspeaker> a lot
[00:11] <rww> Kaedenn: those are the repositories for raring, which reached end-of-life a while ago
[00:11] <rww> !raring
[00:11] <rww> !eolupgrade
[00:11] <Kaedenn> Thank you.
[00:12] <gothicspeaker> I go to bed now
[00:12] <ilhami> I need to go now. Bye.
[00:12] <gothicspeaker> thanks for the help guys
[00:12] <gothicspeaker> wildwind, ilhami
[00:12] <ilhami> I hope you fix your problem
[00:12] <gothicspeaker> yes, thank you very much
[00:12] <gothicspeaker> good ngiht
[00:12] <daftykins> AR45: you forgot to type a message.
[00:12] <ilhami> good night.
[00:13] <Finetundra> daftykins,2X2.0ghz processors, 2.56 gigs of ram, no clue on video card.
[00:14] <wildwind> well i go to bed too. bye.
[00:15] <daftykins> Finetundra: seems plenty for even full ubuntu, depends on the graphics though
[00:16] <Finetundra> the thing is from around 2000
[00:16] <AR45> daftykins: now it just says * Stopping CPU interrupts balancing daemon
[00:16] <bekks> Finetundra: Which processor in particular?
[00:17] <Finetundra> intel xeon, bekks
[00:17] <bekks> Which one in particualar?
[00:17] <Finetundra> i checked it out after last night
[00:17] <Finetundra> no clue
[00:17] <bekks> There are about a hundred of "xeon" out there.
[00:17] <Finetundra> it seems to be fine though
[00:17] <bekks> In the bios boot screen, thats displayed.
[00:17] <Finetundra> let me get it there
[00:18] <AR45> daftykins: all started to happen when I did a apt-get install lightdm xorg kde-plasma-desktop xterm from a fresh mini.iso install
[00:18] <AR45> daftykins: when it was done I did startx
[00:18] <loki__> Is there any good racing game for ubuntu? maybe something from steam? i tried carmagedon: reincarnation under windows and that was awesome. Want something like that under offtopic)
[00:18] <AR45> daftykins: and it started, rebooted and now it won't work
[00:18] <aarwine> loki__: iracing
[00:19] <aarwine> loki__: there's also a tuxracer if you're looking for something more casual
[00:19] <B0bsF1sh> Anyone have advice for troubleshooting a problem with Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS that happens once or twice per week? Symptoms: totally black screen, unable to access services over the network, unable to change to text console using control+alt+f1. Running under VirtualBox 4.2.0 r80737 Windows host with 2 GB RAM, 4 virtual CPUs headless, accessing console via VirtualBox RDP.
[00:19] <aarwine> loki__: if tuxracer is the toboggon game ignore me, there's a mariokart clone with tux somewhere
[00:19] <Finetundra> bekks, it just says its an intel xeon
[00:19] <daftykins> AR45: i see several messages without the start, can you put it on one line? i can't follow that
[00:19] <aarwine> loki__: supertuxkart
[00:19] <loki__> aarwine, mmo racing... i am out of that stuff lol.
[00:19] <bekks> Finetundra: So take a look at the BIOS, there it will tell you much more
[00:20] <Finetundra> I have system summary pulled up, thats's all it says, bekks
[00:21] <bekks> Finetundra: So take a look at the BIOS, there it will tell you much more
[00:21] <loki__> aarwine, i look at your nickname and think about need for speed 2 under wine. lol.
[00:21] <Finetundra> that literally is what it says
[00:21] <loki__> looks like it is legit
[00:22] <Finetundra> that literally is what it says , bekks
[00:24] <AR45_> daftykins: Okay.. So.. I installed the mini.iso and you know it starts just ina terminal and what not
[00:24] <daftykins> AR45_: what about the actual issue of booting in BIOS mode?
[00:24] <AR45_> daftykins: I downloaded kde-plasma desktop and I wanna have it start automatically
[00:25] <ravster> hey all
[00:25] <AR45_> daftykins: oh that's been fixed ;)
[00:25] <daftykins> AR45_: care to fill in the gaps?
[00:25] <bekks> Finetundra: It literally says more, I do know the x-Series servers of IBM.
[00:25] <ravster> how do I get the 'ffmpeg' command?  I only see things like 'ffmpeg2theora' on packages.ubuntu.com
[00:25] <aarwine> ravster: ubuntu decided to fork ffmpeg into libav - GL
[00:26] <Finetundra> ok bekks, where in the bios do i need to be looking
[00:26] <somsip> ravster: its been deprecated and av-tools has replaced it
[00:26] <somsip> !info av-tools | ravster
[00:26] <somsip> or maybe I misremember the name...
[00:26] <AR45_> daftykins: It managed to follow the steps  on the wiki to convert EFI installed Ubuntu to Legacy.
[00:26] <bekks> Finetundra: In the processor info e.g.? I dont know it from memory. Just look at every setting.
[00:26] <somsip> !find avconv
[00:26] <somsip> !info libav-tools | ravster (this one)
[00:27] <daftykins> AR45_: good stuff, if you want kubuntu just install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[00:27] <aarwine> oh look, libav
[00:27] <aarwine> insteresting
[00:27] <ravster> ah, ok
[00:27] <AR45_> daftykins: Had it working all night.. all this morning... but me and somsip were chatting and he told me to try the minimal version of Ubuntu out.
[00:27] <ravster> thanks
[00:27] <somsip> AR45_: hey - you got minimal worknig then?
[00:27] <AR45_> somsip: I'm actually on it right now typing but it doesn't startx for me
[00:27] <AR45_> somsip: somethings are failing.. like starting lightdm
[00:28] <somsip> AR45_: I had to install a login manager. I used slim but IIRC it's deprecated so may not be the best choice. It did setup the env properly for startx to run though
[00:28] <daftykins> AR45_: wait what? why would you start again...
[00:28] <Klas5> wow..
[00:29] <AR45_> daftykins: if I reboot right now.. it's gunna get stuck on the ubuntu loading splash
[00:29] <AR45_> daftykins: have to FN + CTRL + ALT + F1 to get tty1
[00:29] <daftykins> AR45_: sorry but if somsip advised you to take this approach, somsip can clean up :)
[00:30] <somsip> daftykins: he wanted to strip a desktop install down to the minimum, so I suggest he go with minimal and build up
[00:30] <AR45_> daftykins: Actually he didn't and it
[00:31] <daftykins> oh so it wasn't actually a fruitful goal even :(
[00:31] <daftykins> oh dear oh dear
[00:31] <daftykins> AR45_: sorry can't help you.
[00:31] <Finetundra> bekks, i checked everything in the bios, and there's still nothing on the processors
[00:32] <somsip> daftykins: can you clarify why you think this is a bad idea? I often recommend this but I'd like to know if it;s bad advice
[00:32] <AR45_> somsip: no please don't worry with him
[00:32] <AR45_> somsip: I think it's great advice.
[00:33] <somsip> AR45_: I'm asking for my purposes. If he has a point, I want to understand it. I don't like to give out bad advice
[00:33] <AR45_> somsip: I just need some articles to configure things or some help from you that's all
[00:33] <daftykins> somsip: purely for how many issues AR45_ had when getting started, it seems counter-intuitive to start all over again. there are far better ways to learn than this.
[00:33] <somsip> daftykins: I came in at the point where he was asking how to remove gnome and unity. I had no back history
[00:33] <AR45_> daftykins: actually.. I haven't repeated any of the errors i've corrected since day 1..
[00:33] <daftykins> AR45_ somsip - for what it's worth i'm not trying to portray having any issues with helping, it's just that i don't run desktop so i can't assist.
[00:33] <somsip> daftykins: fair enough. Thanks for clarifying
[00:34] <daftykins> no problem :)
[00:34] <AR45_> daftykins: so I think... it isn't counter-intuitive!
[00:34] <daftykins> well you're bound to agree with your own approach :)
[00:35] <somsip> AR45_: so with the login thing... I had the same issue with 14.04, and wanted no login mangager (I'd used slim with minimal 12.04 too) but couldn't find what was missing to allow startx, and installing slim did start it. But I wouldn't recommend that as the only solution as slim is either deprecated or not supported. I've never used lightdm
[00:36] <bekks> Finetundra: whats the IBM model number of that server?
[00:36] <NGC3982> I just had the worst experience ever.
[00:37] <NGC3982> I stood by my wall mounted surf tab for two hours, creating a lighting controller scene in tasker
[00:37] <NGC3982> In the middle of everything, it locks, rolls back everything and permanently deleted everything ive done
[00:37] <Finetundra> bekks,8647-2AX
[00:37] <somsip> !ot | NGC3982
[00:37] <NGC3982> Yes, just throw it in my face.
[00:39] <bekks> Finetundra: So using the serial number and model number, find out which hardware you have, using the IBM support website.
[00:40] <Finetundra> bekks, IBM eServer xSeries 225 Type 8647
[00:42] <AR45_> somsip: Also I think I might have to install drivers for my ethernet card... I'm getting no more than 100kb/s download lol
[00:43] <AR45_> somsip: sudo ubuntu-drivers command doesn't work here so no idea what they are >.<
[00:43] <somsip> AR45_: not sure about that
[00:43] <bekks> Finetundra: I dont need that information. You need it on the IBM support website.
[00:43] <oFalco> hey guys
[00:44] <oFalco> could I ask someone for help real quick?
[00:44] <AR45_> somsip: Okay.
[00:44] <bekks> oFalco: Depends on you actual question.
[00:45] <oFalco> I just need a step by step on installing something
[00:45] <bekks> oFalco: You need to ask a specific question ;)
[00:46] <oFalco> could you help me install uTorrent in Ubuntu?
[00:46] <bekks> !info utorrent
[00:46] <bekks> oFalco: There are various other torrent clients in the official ubuntu repos.
[00:47] <oFalco> yes, but none that compare to uTorrent (That I've found)
[00:47] <squinty> oFalco:  there is no utorrent client available for linux.  there is a web based utorrent server edition which you can install via the utorrent web site.  it uses a web interface... see the site for more details
[00:47] <xangua> oFalco: you are aware that utorrent for linux is just the server+webgui?
[00:48] <oFalco> I tried Vuze, qBitTorrent, and more
[00:48] <somsip> oFalco: This might help http://is.gd/cATz1k
[00:48] <bekks> oFalco: http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/install-utorrent-in-ubuntu-fedora/
[00:48] <Finetundra> bekks, is what i need the chipset type?
[00:49] <bekks> Finetundra: No. I told you that you need the serial number and the model number :)
[00:49] <Finetundra> FOR WHAT!
[00:49] <bekks> Finetundra: With that information, you can easily find out which CPU you have.
[00:50] <oFalco> bekks: http://i.gyazo.com/944f01d137ecbe04a259f2507c2c563b.png
[00:50] <Finetundra> bekks, tell that to me like i'm 4
[00:50] <bekks> Finetundra: I just did.
[00:51] <bekks> oFalco: So the source file does not exist, check the utorrent site for the current file name.
[00:51] <oFalco> bekks: I tried to install and this is what I got http://i.gyazo.com/82d5726a63b1d0860d24e3daeba9a0f9.png
[00:51] <Finetundra> bekks, i have the information for it pulled up n cnet, tell me what i need to find
[00:52] <somsip> oFalco: you downloaded it into the current (home) directory, then changed to Downloads and it wasn't there. Because it's in ~/
[00:55] <oFalco> somsip: changed it. Got this later on: http://i.gyazo.com/04e2cb2cc8a367a23c4211fa625c4de7.png
[00:55] <wiky> Which day will ubuntu 14.10 be released
[00:56] <somsip> oFalco: does the file exist at /usr/bin/utserver and does it point where you want it to?
[00:56] <somsip> wiky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[00:57] <oFalco> yes
[00:58] <Tex_Nick> wiky: looks like Oct 23, 2014 ... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-10-release-date
[00:58] <somsip> oFalco: that's why you get the error. That's what the error text says.
[00:59] <oFalco> somsip: so if it exists tjhen that comkmand is irrelevant?
[01:00] <somsip> oFalco: if it exists and points to the file you want it to, yes
[01:00] <oFalco> ok
[01:00] <ashley01> does anyone know a program that can pop-up messages at certain times on my desktop? e.g. like an alarm that reminds me to do something at a certain time
[01:00] <ashley01> i use Unity so it would need to be compatible with that
[01:01] <aarwine> ashley01: libnotify + at?
[01:01] <SchrodingersScat> !info alarm-clock | ashley01, although in my own personal experience this is untrustworthy,
[01:01] <oFalco> somsip: I go to the next step which is going in browser and typing this: http://localhost:8080/gui/ and it says webpage is not availablr
[01:01] <Klas5> I have some test file, using a bunch of assert()'s
[01:02] <Klas5> at one point it tries "const Vector<double> &vc = v; //Creates constant reference"
[01:02] <ashley01> oh dear, alarm-clock has a 3 star rating on USC
[01:02] <Klas5> then it runs "assert(vc.size() == 2); //ok: dont change the vector thats constant"
[01:03] <Klas5> whoa, in the wrong channel
[01:03] <Klas5> sry :P
[01:03] <ashley01> !libnotify
[01:04] <nicklasmoeller> I have a folder that I want to share between an NTFS (windows) and an ext4 partition. It can be a copy, but it has to stay in sync (all those scratchy ext4 things doesn't matter, I just need the files available on NTFS as well) - any suggestions? It's a dual boot, so no network sharing
[01:05] <aarwine> nicklasmoeller: you should either use ntfs write support on linux or format it fat
[01:05] <ashley01> ok i'll just try out alarm-clock from ubuntu software center
[01:05] <ashley01> centre*
[01:05] <aarwine> nicklasmoeller: you'll be much better off dealing with the same data than trying to sync it
[01:06] <SchrodingersScat> ashley01: it just crashes for me sometimes, so I learned the hard way to not rely on it for waking up, other important things.  For a countdown to something small where you'll be conscious of it anyway, it's not bad.
[01:06] <ashley01> oh ok
[01:07] <nicklasmoeller> aarwine: thanks! The only thing is that it's the /var/www folder (typically php), how would I deal with that? Some things need to be executable and stuff
[01:07] <ashley01> i just remembered something: does ubuntu 14.04 have the feature where you can place a sticky on the desktop?
[01:07] <ashley01> i remember an older version of ubuntu had it and it was very convenient
[01:07] <aarwine> nicklasmoeller: hrm, could you instead put your php app in git, and do git pulls on either side? windows / linux?
[01:08] <somsip> !info xpad | ashley01
[01:08] <pavlos> ashley01, Knotes
[01:08] <ashley01> thanks, i'll check them out
[01:08] <ashley01> ah yes
[01:08] <ashley01> it is definitely xpad
[01:08] <ashley01> i used GNOME in the old days
[01:09] <nicklasmoeller> Would be a possibility, but I wouldn't be able to work without internet then
[01:10] <timpani> Does anyone know how to use plop? The documentation isn't clear to me. I'm trying to boot from a DVD but apparently the box is so old that it can't boot from anything except hard drive. Please help :-(
[01:11] <timpani> Someone told me plop would make even this old box able to boot from DVD...
[01:12] <SchrodingersScat> timpani: i thought plop was to give legacy devices usb support..how big is the image? isn't it CD sized?  also !ubuntu
[01:13] <timpani> SchrodingersScat: I have an image ready to go on USB too, so I'll run with that if it works. As for my admittedly imperfect choice of channel, which would be better?
[01:14] <SchrodingersScat> timpani: what are you trying to actually install?
[01:14] <timpani> FreeBSD 10.
[01:14] <timpani> SchrodingersScat: ^^
[01:15] <ashley01> xpad is brilliant
[01:15] <AR45_> somsip: crap this is hard lol
[01:16] <SchrodingersScat> timpani: there's #freebsd ?
[01:16] <nullsign> i wonder why Chef-Server/Client is not part of Ubuntu yet?
[01:16] <nullsign> puppet is..
[01:16] <timpani> SchrodingersScat: it won't let me in.
[01:16] <nullsign> but not chef.
[01:16] <timpani> (I already tried that a half hour ago.)
[01:18] <pandather> coming from Arch I'm having the worst time setting a USB DAC as my default device, with pulse
[01:29] <cynicallemon> timpani: you should get on with #freebsd, ##freebsd needs you to be authenticated but you could try
[01:34] <timpani> cynicallemon: I'm afraid neither of those is letting me in.
[01:34] <nosleep77> hi guys quick q: is fpm the best and easy way to create pkgs ?
[01:35] <cynicallemon> timpani: can you install the drive you want freebsd on in another machine that can boot from cd/usb?
[01:36] <timpani> cynicallemon: if you mean can I physicall remove the drive and reattach it to another machine, then I'm afraid not.
[01:36] <timpani> (*physically)
[01:36] <erikk> Hello again!
[01:37] <erikk> I've been here a few times today, working on a problem I've had with Windows not booting (installed UEFI afaik) with my new non uefi Ubuntu install
[01:37] <erikk> And then it looked like my Windows partition got destroyed during the install
[01:37] <erikk> But for the past few hours, I ran testdisk to identify lost partitions and found this: http://i.imgur.com/TvwZY1B.png
[01:37] <erikk> Can anyone help me figure out if anything is salvageable or what this all means?
[01:38] <erikk> I think I might have reinstalled Ubuntu immediately after I installed it once, hence the high number of identified linux partitions
[01:38] <erikk> But clearly some Windows is left in there, right?
[01:39] <cynicallemon> timpani: thats what i meant
[01:40] <erikk> So I guess that brings me to a few questions: Is anything salvageable? If yes, data? All of Windows? If something is salvageable, how do I go about grabbing it / recovering it or even getting dual boot?
[01:45] <jeffreylevesque> does libmagic come with ubuntu?
[01:45] <jeffreylevesque> python's 'magic' module?
[01:46] <lmat> I have a 4 MB pdf (44 pages, one b/w image per page) that I'm trying to view with evince.
[01:46] <lmat> It's going *really* slowly...
[01:52] <somsip> !info python-magic | jeffreylevesque
[01:55] <jeffreylevesque> somsip: so no
[01:55] <somsip> jeffreylevesque: isn't that the file you wanted?
[01:55] <somsip> s/file/package
[01:56] <jeffreylevesque> somsip: I'm working on my mac righ tnow.  But, I have a Ubuntu OS, and wondering if python-magic comes with the ubuntu OS
[01:57] <somsip> jeffreylevesque: and the bot just told you that  Version 1:5.14-2ubuntu3.2 is available for 14.04. What else did you want to know?
[02:05] <Guma> Hello, I was wondering if there is a ways to resize root partition on first boot on SD Card. I have img file that is small and will be dd to differetn SD card sizes. So I would like to do is on first boot resize the root and then reboot and never do it again
[02:13] <Finetundra> so how do i install from a minimum CD
[02:13] <somsip> Finetundra: boot from it, follow the instructions. Maybe you need to ask a clearer question?
[02:15] <Finetundra> why is it trying to setup my home network?
[02:16] <somsip> Finetundra: because it downloads the packages it needs as it nees them
[02:16] <Finetundra> so why does it have to configure it?
[02:22] <Finetundra>  how do i get the default xubuntu desktop on default ubuntu
[02:24] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , not the bes idea for "minimal" .
[02:24] <Bashing-om> bes/best*
[02:25] <Finetundra> at this point, i don't think it will cause too many problems
[02:26] <nicklasmoeller> Anyone experienced with ntfs usermapping? Would it be appropriate to use for preserving properties like executable?
[02:31] <lmat> Well, I divided the PDF document into smaller documents (documents with ten pages each), and it's still having trouble
[02:31] <lmat> So, I divided one of those ten-pagers into single-pagers, and it's *still* having truoble!!
[02:31] <lmat> :'-(
[02:31] <lmat> Oh well, maybe some other day.
[02:39] <ObrienDave> lmat, what's the PDF issue?
[02:50] <RudyValencia> Hi, I'm migrating away from Windows but I have a small issue with being able to map SMB (Windows) shares to a mountpoint, how do I do that so I can use them as if they are part of my filesystem?
[02:51] <RudyValencia> (like how Windows has "Map Network Drive" which assigns them a drive leter)
[02:56] <daftykins> RudyValencia: you'd map a share by hand editing /etc/fstab with a samba mount
[02:57] <RudyValencia> I remember doing that in the past but it required that I hardcode a username/password in a separate file
[02:57] <RudyValencia> I already have the box set up with PBIS Open
[02:58] <daftykins> with what?
[02:58] <RudyValencia> used to be likewise open
[02:58] <RudyValencia> for Active Directory logins
[02:58] <daftykins> so guest access ultimately?
[02:59] <RudyValencia> not really
[03:03] <RudyValencia> I guess guest access is okay for now
[03:03] <RudyValencia> it's just me accessing shares on a Windows server I run
[03:04] <RudyValencia> is this what you are suggesting daftykins
[03:04] <RudyValencia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:05] <RudyValencia> ah, I can do libpam_mount perhaps
[03:05] <daftykins> sorry i stepped away for a sec
[03:05] <daftykins> let me catch up
[03:05] <daftykins> so said windows server is setup as a DC?
[03:05] <RudyValencia> yes
[03:05] <daftykins> not sure what complications you'll run into there
[03:06] <RudyValencia> and ubuntu can log in to the DC because I have it joined to the domain via PBIS/likewise open
[03:07] <daftykins> yeah, never heard of that
[03:07] <daftykins> i can't predict how that might change things
[03:07] <RudyValencia> it's a program that lets Ubuntu log into a domain
[03:07] <RudyValencia> ;D
[03:09] <RudyValencia> eh I'll be back later
[03:09] <RudyValencia> gonna add memory to this box
[03:12] <charlie5> hi folks ... would anyone know of a link to *working* instructions on how to the install the adobe flash plugin for firefox/chromium under ubuntu ? ... none of the five different sets of instructions i have just tried work
[03:14] <xangua> charta: what five diferent sets of instructions¿ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer for mozilla plugin
[03:14] <xangua> pepperflash something for chromium, google chrome already comes with it
[03:14] <cyphase> this shouldn't be too hard to hack together, but in case it already exists.. is there a utility that you can run on multiple systems with changing (public) ips that will keep all the systems hosts files updated to reference each other?
[03:15] <xangua> pepperflashplugin-nonfree for chromium
[03:15] <kirito_> hi
[03:17] <charlie5> xangua: thanks for reply ... i have installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree but the page i wish to visit still insists flash is not the latest version :/
[03:17] <charlie5> i might try google chrome
[03:17] <kirito_> hi
[03:18] <ObrienDave> kirito_, Greetings & Welcome
[03:19] <charlie5> hmm, google chrome and chromium are the same browser ?
[03:20] <whoever_> charlie5: yep
[03:20] <ObrienDave> nope
[03:20] <charlie5> i type chrome into ubu s/w centre search box and it only shows chromium
[03:20] <lionroars> can we remove non-free binary blobs from the kernel in Ubuntu ?
[03:21] <daftykins> lionroars: which do you believe it comes with?
[03:21] <whoever_> lionroars: yes its an option in software center
[03:21] <xangua> lionroars: it would be easier to use one of the linux distros FSF recomends
[03:21] <lionroars> xangua, I am testing Trisquel 7 but Intel Haswell Graphics is not working well on it, Expericence : Standard
[03:21] <lionroars> *Experience
[03:25] <Phiro> Hey. I just upgraded a 12.04 server to 14.04 and on reboot it hangs at a black screen with a cursor in the upper left corner of the console. Any ideas?
[03:26] <whoever_> Phiro: do a fresh install
[03:26] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Phiro
[03:26] <Wulframn> Phiro, check your boot parameters in /etc/fstab
[03:28] <Phiro> Thanks, I will try that. I tried holding down shift during a reboot and it didn't make a difference, but I'll try it again.
[03:29] <whoever_> Phiro: that is why i said to just do a fresh install, its not the best way, but the quickest way
[03:29] <Wulframn> Phiro, use your livecd/liveusb to boot into a live environment, mount the drive, navigate to /etc/fstab and edit it that way.
[03:29] <Wulframn> whoever_, that may not be an option (critical infrastructure, etc.)
[03:29] <Phiro> yeah, this is a production server that runs our company's main jira instance, and I didn't back it up ahead of time :/
[03:30] <whoever_> Wulframn: correct, i also was assuming if it was mission citical that he would had stated that
[03:30] <Phiro> I held down shift, I now see a grub message flash by, it looked like 4+ lines of something not found
[03:30] <Wulframn> Good thing you had this experience to remind you to back it up in the future.
[03:31] <Wulframn> There are only two types of people in the world: those who back up their data and those who've never had a critical failure.
[03:31] <whoever_> Phiro: then change your grub timeout
[03:31] <whoever_> so you can read it
[03:31] <whoever_> Wulframn: yep
[03:32] <linocisco> hi all
[03:32] <niebieski> Guys I can't boot 14, the splash screen and nothing happens for half an hour.
[03:32] <Phiro> The main 14.04 iso I use for new servers, that's a live image, right?
[03:32] <linocisco> I have this laptop (http://www.zyxware.com/articles/1791/laptop-reviews-acer-as5750-2412g50mnkk-lx-r970c-013-note-book)
[03:33] <daftykins> !nomodeset | niebieski
[03:33] <whoever_> niebieski: did you upgrade , fresh install ?
[03:33] <linocisco> I would like to install ubuntu desktop 14.04.1 LTS . I dont know which I have to download 32bit or 64 bit
[03:33] <LawnGnome_> Does anyone here know what distinguishes ubuntu-gnome from ubuntu? I am running ubuntu but i want to convert it to ubuntu-gnome. Is there a file or something that specifies what distro it is?
[03:33] <richardaus> 64bit if you have a decent system with lots of memory.  32 if you have limited resources memory wise.
[03:33] <whoever_> niebieski: what video card do you have
[03:34] <niebieski> whoever_: No I tried to boot live or install both does the same problem
[03:34] <Wulframn> Phiro, I am not sure off the top of my head. If it isn't you can either download another image or just use System Rescue CD. I, personally, *STRONGLY* recommend having a copy of System Rescue CD lying around. I cannot impress that upon you enough.
[03:34] <niebieski> whoever_: Intel mobile
[03:34] <Wulframn> linocisco, how much ram does your system have?
[03:35] <xangua> LawnGnome_: ubuntu uses unity , ubuntu gnome uses gnome shell, both use gnome3
[03:35] <whoever_> niebieski: is your install media a dvd
[03:35] <linocisco> Wulframn, 8GB currently but intel processor with 64bit support
[03:35] <Wulframn> linocisco, then 64-bit
[03:35] <Phiro> Hmm, it doesn't look like it has a live anything option, I'll go look for downloads.
[03:35] <linocisco> Wulframn, according to http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1, 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image
[03:35] <linocisco>     Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
[03:35] <niebieski> whoever_: No it's a CD about 1GB.
[03:35] <richardaus> How hard is it to change desktops?
[03:36] <ObrienDave> richardaus, very easy
[03:36] <linocisco> Wulframn,  i have 64bit but not AMD
[03:36] <ObrienDave> linocisco, not a problem
[03:36] <Elimin8er> its strange, after doing an upgrade. and then a reboot. my wifi wouldnt work.. kept pulling up as Airplane mode on. and I couldnt turn it off. after alot of googleing and reading.. I figured out fn+F2 pretty much fixed the problem.. but I dont understand why after all the many upgrades I have done. this one would cause my wifi to shut down..
[03:36] <Wulframn> linocisco, you do not need AMD. Your CPU supports 64 bit processing and you have 8g's of RAM. You're good to go.
[03:37] <ObrienDave> linocisco, AMD is just the name of the 64bit images.
[03:37] <linocisco> ObrienDave, Wulframn . Dear bros. clear now. thanks alot
[03:37] <Phiro> The 14.04 iso gives me the choice of boot from first hard disk or rescue a broken system - do either of those, or download the live cd?
[03:37] <LawnGnome_> but if i do a release upgrade of ubuntu installed from a ubuntu unity install cd, wont it overwrite gnome's packages?
[03:37] <whoever_> niebieski: if it is a cd than how big is the iso you burned to in in mb
[03:38] <Wulframn> Phiro, I am not sure what "rescue a broken system" does so I will point you to someone else here.
[03:38] <whoever_> niebieski: alse what speed did you burn it at
[03:38] <niebieski> whoever_: I'm using a USB flash and I used Rufus.
[03:38] <Phiro> the "boot from first hard disk" gave me the exact same issue (cursor in upper left corner), trying the rescue, but I won't go far.
[03:41] <whoever_> niebieski: try the diskcreator utility in ubuntu
[03:41] <whoever_> i have not used rufus
[03:42] <niebieski> whoever_: I'll try the nomodeset first.
[03:42] <niebieski> Thanks, everyone. :)
[03:43] <whoever_> niebieski: the other thing you can try is to boot your flash into a vm
[03:43] <LawnGnome_> does
[03:43] <Bashing-om> Phiro: Still like a graphics issue .. Nvidia or ATI graphics card in use ?
[03:44] <Phiro> Sigh, neither, it's a vmware server.
[03:44] <LawnGnome_> does ubuntu gnome use a different repository for release upgrades than ubuntu unity?
[03:44] <Phiro> The 14.04 install ISO's rescue mode allows me to get to a shell, or reinstall grub, or a few other things. I tried reinstalling grub to /dev/sda, no difference. Going to a shell.
[03:45] <charlie5> ah, nice ... google chrome loads the flash page correctly ... tah for tip xangua
[03:45] <xangua> LawnGnome_: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu gnome are all ubuntu and use same repository
[03:46] <Phiro> Ah, apparently the live mode is on the desktop iso only, I just need a desktop iso.
[03:46] <Bashing-om> Phiro: Yrue for the live mode .. desktop.
[03:47] <Bashing-om> true*
[03:48] <LawnGnome_> so if i do a release upgrade on ubuntu with gnome installed over unity will it try to replace gnome?
[03:49] <samthewildone> how do I get slingbox on linux
[03:49] <samthewildone> On Ubuntu 14.04.1LTS
[03:51] <LawnGnome_> so if i do a release upgrade on ubuntu with gnome installed over unity will it try to replace gnome?
[03:51] <Phiro> My /etc/default/grub looks totally default according to google, do I do anything more than remark out the two GRUB_HIDDEN lines?
[03:54] <Phiro> Alright, this is slightly better, now I have grub coming up. If I go to advanced mode, I get to pick from 3 kernels - 3.13, 3.2, or 2.6, and recovery modes for all of them. Try going back to 3.2?
[03:55] <LawnGnome_> what was your issue phiro?
[03:55] <Phiro> upgrading to 14.04 left me with a black screen, cursor upper left corner.
[03:55] <Phiro> Hmm, trying 3.13 normal worked?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Phiro: You may, but "recovery mode" may prove the more productive .
[03:56] <LawnGnome_> is it the kernel or the x server?
[03:57] <Phiro> Alright, how did it work, and how do I get it to work again?
[03:57] <Phiro> ahh, I should put nomodeset in /etc/default/grub?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Phiro: You are booting up with a "normal" older kernel, correct ?
[03:59] <Phiro> I thought 3.13 was neweR?
[04:00] <ObrienDave> it is
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Phiro: That is the series of the kernel for 14.04 ...current is 3.13.0-36-generic .
[04:00] <surjo> hi
[04:01] <Phiro> Alright, now things are working. Was grub so messed up that a clean /etc/default/grub & running grub-update (or whatever I typed) fixed things?
[04:03] <cuulcars> So, I'm trying to install elementary OS. I know it's not technically Ubuntu but I think the problem is with Ubiquity.  The installer isn't recognizing my /dev/sda. I tried starting with unallocated space, that didn't work, I tried setting up the partitions in windows, to no avail, and I finally setup the partitions manually with GParted (ext4 and a swap). Still, the installer does not allow me to install to these partitions. Anyone 
[04:03] <Bashing-om> Phiro: Possible, maybe ?? .. have you run -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- yet ?
[04:04] <surjo> My Intel Graphic are successfully installed and update, now how to use it??
[04:04] <somsip> cuulcars: you are right, it's not ubuntu. Try #elementary
[04:07] <Phiro> Bashing-om: yeah, did all that as part of the upgrade. I've done probably ~50+ upgrades of ubuntu, but I guess I've totally lucked out until tonight. Never had anything like this happen before.
[04:08] <Phiro> Thanks everyone, it's coming back up. I'll finish the jira upgrade & adding the sensu client to the server.
[04:08] <Bashing-om> It happens .. all is good now ?
[04:09] <Phiro> I've only rebooted once and the grub menu now comes up with a 10 second countdown, but I'll leave that the way it is, as I rarely reboot this server.
[04:09] <Phiro> I need to do another restart in a couple minutes and then I'm done, if it comes back touch-free I'll call it golden.
[04:10] <crazyhead42> Phiro, can you help me figure out how to get my server accessable (or how to access it if it is already accessable)?
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Phiro: I prefer to have a bit of countdown, just so it is easier to get to grub's boot menu .. fingers crossed for ya .. golden !
[04:12] <Phiro> crazyhead42: I can help you with Jira, Stash, Confluence, Crucible, Fisheye, Coverity, Nexus, and Sonar, but Linux isn't my forte (obviously) :/
[04:12] <crazyhead42> I have two IP addresses for it (not sure which one I want), my password, my username, and "FileZilla"
[04:13] <linocisco> hi all
[04:13] <crazyhead42> Oh. I'm still new to ubuntu. But I better learn, cause this computer isn't going to last that long, and I'm NOT getting another pc.
[04:13] <Phiro> Sensu I'm still a big beginner with - I have about 25 hosts talking to my sensu/uchiwa server, and I'm adding production servers as I touch them (hence adding our prod Jira server tonight, as I was upgrading it).
[04:13] <linocisco> when we setup ubuntu during installation, we need to provide user name and password that is asked for log in later on. How can we make ubuntu free login for anyone?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: you can use the guest account after install
[04:14] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, there is no way like windows to log in automatically without user's intervention?
[04:15] <crazyhead42> Okay, so how do I find out what port my computer uses?
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: you can enable automatic login for each user yes
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: but its not reccomended to share password of the creator account with others
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: its better to use guest account or internet kiosk package after
[04:16] <Phiro> Bashing-om: Cool, a clean restart with my fingers away from anything worked just fine. Jira is back up, Sensu has another host to listen to. All is right with the world again. Thanks everyone.
[04:16] <crazyhead42> LIES!
[04:17] <Bashing-om> Phiro: :))
[04:17] <crazyhead42> NOT ALL IS RIGHT IN THE WORLD! I still use windows 8.
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: caps off plz
[04:17] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i dont want to share creator's password. I just want to disable "asking for password" and make it ready to use without user's action
[04:17] <somsip> crazyhead42: calm down and keep to support issues please
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: you should stay the admin of your computer, then make a new user 'everyone' and new password then set to automatic logon
[04:19] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, how do I do that? any reference link?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> someone knows trigger for creating users?
[04:19] <crazyhead42> I would still like help accessing my server from my laptop, but no one seems to have answered my request for help.
[04:20] <LawnGnome_> does anyone know if i can run 2 instances of the same user in 2 VTs?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !users | linocisco
[04:20] <somsip> !adduser | linocisco
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> somsip: tnx :p
[04:20] <somsip> lotuspsychje: you got the alias first :)
[04:20] <Phiro> crazyhead42: Like just a shell? As in, install ssh on your server and use putty to access it from your laptop?
[04:20] <linocisco> somsip, what alias?
[04:20] <somsip> !brain | linocisco
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: see the user add url mate
[04:21] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ok
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: its really not so hard, just click the useraccount icon in your system, it speaks for itself
[04:21] <crazyhead42> umm. . . I don't quite know what I'm doing. This is my first server, and the first time I tried, I didn't even have a functioning version
[04:22] <crazyhead42> Basically, I just want to store stuff on the harddrive. FileZilla was recommended to me, so I have that.
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: creating a server, and not knowing what you do/want is not a good idea
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !server | crazyhead42
[04:23] <crazyhead42> Better than not though. It was orriginally going to be a samba fileshare server, but I need storage up and running before I have time to fully set it up.
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: whats your end goal exactly?
[04:25] <crazyhead42> external storage, and eventually access from other computers. That last part I'll have to wait to set up though, Samba is impossible to be doing during the semester.
[04:25] <slyrus_> obriendave: last night I said filing a bug first isn't necessarily the right thing to do... now I'm not so sure.
[04:26] <ObrienDave> still having mouse troubles?
[04:26] <slyrus_> i still some of the scrollwheel jumpiness, but only when I log under ubuntu/unity (I think I have my terminology correct here)
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: so you want a NAS server for your own usage?
[04:26] <slyrus_> with ubuntustudio, I don't see any of it
[04:26] <pzkpfw> ;j #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <pzkpfw> ;j #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <pzkpfw> drank fail
[04:27] <pzkpfw> due to foreign keyboard selected
[04:27] <crazyhead42> I think so...
[04:27] <ObrienDave> pzkpfw, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:28] <slyrus_> there's some weirdness where a terminal window will "bounce" up and down and, e.g., the URL input widget in firefox flashes repeatedly
[04:28] <slyrus_> perhaps taking a video of this with my phone would help describe the phenomenon
[04:28] <crazyhead42> are the NAS servers basically "cloud storage", only you have access to and control over them?
[04:29] <slyrus_> some weird window manager/mouse interaction bug?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: a nas server is used for your own file storage on your local server, and share on your network
[04:30] <crazyhead42> basically, yes.
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: but more nas devices are being used in the cloud also, but thats offtopic
[04:30] <crazyhead42> yes, but we've all been advertised to death to know what "the cloud" is.
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: you can google some ubuntu nas layouts to inform yourself
[04:32] <crazyhead42> Well, I've likely succeeded in choosing a poor phrasing of my google search
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: did your teacher inform you about security on cloud storage too?
[04:33] <crazyhead42> No teacher.
[04:34] <crazyhead42> And I won't be storing anything that needs too much security for a bit, so I'll probably just unplug the ethernet cable when I'm not using it and call that good enough for now.
[04:34] <crazyhead42> Maybe over the break I'll worry about setting up a decent firewall and getting a security system in place.
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: smart choice with ubuntu as server
[04:34] <niebieski> Guys, I'm trying to boot 14 but the splash screen and nothing happens, I tried nomodeset but the problem persist.
[04:35] <crazyhead42> Is that sarcasm?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: did you try F1 at boot?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: no sarcasm, see the !security trigger
[04:35] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: It displays the help page right ?
[04:36] <niebieski> BTW I also tried it on VirtualBox it worked fine.
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: what happens when you choose 'try ubuntu'
[04:36] <crazyhead42> What's a trigger? I know that's wither for the bot, Unopaste, or for the linux server, but I don't know which
[04:36] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: The slpash screen appears and nothing happens for a long time.
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !security | crazyhead42
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: you have an uefi system?
[04:37] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: I don't know honestly.
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: win8 by default on your machine?
[04:38] <crazyhead42> Oh, yeah. The automatic stuff.
[04:38] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: Win7 and linux mint.
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: and you want to overwrite both with ubuntu?
[04:39] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: No, I would overwrite Mint if possible.
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: its possible it hangs during reading your partition layout
[04:39] <dalekusa> I'm having artifacting at startup again, and this time, restarting is just not working.
[04:40] <dalekusa> It looks like this: http://imgur.com/bgD4C37
[04:40] <crazyhead42> but how can I get the two talking? It would be nice if the two identified eachother.
[04:41] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: Yeah because when I switch to terminal I saw an error saying something like "cannot find /dev/sda" or something.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: doublecheck bios if secureboot is disabled, and maybe clean out some partitions first before install?
[04:42] <dalekusa> hello?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !patience | dalekusa
[04:42] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: I don't have secureboot feature in my bios, and what do you mean by cleaning partitions ?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: wipe mint off your hd maybe
[04:44] <chaotix> hey, if ubuntu crashes and i am automatically logged out, is a crash report created?  and if so, where?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: you choose the right architecture right 32bit or 64bit
[04:44] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: Is it possible to install version 13 and then upgrade ? I don't think I can let go Mint.
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: we cant support on mint here, is it ubuntu you trying to setup?
[04:45] <chaotix> every time i run a certain script in my terminal, ubuntu crashes
[04:45] <crazyhead42> -sigh- Something tells me I'm not going to get my server and computer to see eachother any time tonight.
[04:45] <AR45_> somsip: Yo
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> crazyhead42: join #ubuntu-server
[04:46] <crazyhead42> I'm in ubuntu server. No one else is actually on.
[04:46] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: Yes I believe it's 32bit, and yes I want Ubuntu.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> chaotix: you can try dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[04:46] <dalekusa> question repeat:
[04:46] <chaotix> lotuspsychje, thanks, i will
[04:47] <dalekusa> I am having this form of artifacting at startup: http://imgur.com/bgD4C37
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> chaotix: also a tail -f /var/log/syslog can show you some realtime errors
[04:47] <chaotix> cool
[04:47] <dalekusa> Sometimes restarting fixes it, sometimes I have to reboot several times.
[04:47] <dalekusa> What do you think may be the overarching problem?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> niebieski: what i would do is wipe the whole HD clean, and install ubuntu 14.04 on whole hd
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> dalekusa: did you try the recoverymode from grub?
[04:50] <dalekusa> This started not too long after I installed Trusty.
[04:50] <ObrienDave> dalekusa, that is a sync issue from video card to monitor. one or the other is not syncing to the proper frequency
[04:50] <dalekusa> Which replaced Linux Mint Nadia
[04:50] <dalekusa> I do have the Nvidia drivers
[04:51] <dalekusa> Obrienlemme pull up the
[04:51] <dalekusa> crap
[04:51] <niebieski> lotuspsychje: Alright, thanks. :)
[04:51] <fonz> ..
[04:51] <dalekusa> ObrienDave: Lemme pull up the Nvidia control panel
[04:51] <dalekusa> done
[04:52] <ObrienDave> more than likely your card is outputting a rez mode the monitor does not like
[04:54] <dalekusa> My monitor recommends 1600x900 at 60 hz, which is what it outputs
[04:55] <dalekusa> so the monitor is probably not the problem.
[04:56] <dalekusa> oh codec
[04:57] <ObrienDave> check cable connections
[04:58] <Noah_AT> Hey guys! I just updated Ubuntu to 14.04 LTS. I run a minecraft server on the installation and I can't seem to reach the server via my external IP address. I'm wondering if there could be a local firewall on linux machine blocking the external connection. Thanks!
[04:58] <dalekusa> VGA cable is secure at both ends...
[04:59] <dalekusa> ObrienDave
[05:01] <ObrienDave> do you have any other monitors to try?
[05:01] <dalekusa> just the one
[05:01] <ObrienDave> wondering if your card might be going wonky
[05:02] <dalekusa> I have integrated GeForce 6150SE graphics
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: try nmap on your ip
[05:03] <Noah_AT> from the same machine?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: you can try both external and internal ip from same machine
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: see what it does
[05:04] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: nmap spit out a whole bunch of literature
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: maybe a nmap -PN -sV ipadress
[05:04] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: thx for the help btw
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: also check if your router needs portforward on minecraft server port
[05:06] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: My router has its port forwarded. When I try to connect from another machine to the server locally using the port, it works great
[05:06] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: port number*
[05:06] <dalekusa> ObrienDave: Mind if I tell you a bit of a story about how Ubuntu came to be installed on my computer?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: and remote not?
[05:07] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: right, so when I use my external-IP:port it doesn’t see anything
[05:07] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje of course minecraft returns “can’t connect to server” in that case which is pretty useless information
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: isnt there a difference of server setup dedicated or public?
[05:08] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: Not sure what you are asking? It was working fine a few weeks ago and then tonight I updated the OS
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: maybe the server only setup for playing localy
[05:09] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: Oh, no. The minecraft server just listens to the port you specificy. It allows all connections
[05:09] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: I pinged my external IP and did connect
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: isnt there a database of server ip's that other users can scan to join server?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: can you pm me your external ip? ill try nmap to see
[05:10] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: No. This is a private server. It’s literally a jar file running on my linux that listens to connections coming in on default port 25565
[05:11] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje: There are some bigger servers that are listed on websites and stuff, but thats not what I’m going for. I’m just going for a direct connection
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: ok so other users cant connect your servers remote right?
[05:11] <AR45> So I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 from the minimal cd. So far I've installed xorg and kde-plasma-desktop? What do you suggest I do next?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Noah_AT: pm me your server ip plz, ill nmap
[05:12] <Noah_AT> lotuspsychje anyone with a minecraft client, my external ip address, and the port number could connect. There is an option of denying access based on a whitelist
[05:12] <lionroars> is Ubuntu secure ?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !security | lionroars
[05:12] <lionroars> is it more secure than FreeBSD by default ?
[05:12] <AR45> lionroars: No.
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> lionroars: security is what you make of it yourself
[05:13] <lionroars> lotuspsychje, ok i get it
[05:13] <lionroars> lotuspsychje, Why is FSF's stand on Ubuntu so rude ?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> lionroars: fsf?
[05:14] <AR45> Any articles out there on configuring 14.04 minimal instilations?
[05:15] <lionroars> lotuspsychje, Free Software Foundation, the GNU Project's Sponsor
[05:15] <lionroars> AR45, do you use freebsd ?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !minimal | AR45
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> lionroars: plz use #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss these things
[05:16] <Tam5> If I have Libreoffice installed in Windows. How can I set Libreoffice to be the default PDF viewer? I am at "set default program" for a pdf file in windows, but I need to know which .exe to point to
[05:16] <Tam5> * #reddit-sysadmin :Cannot send to channel
[05:16] <Bashing-om> AR45: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[05:17] <gt8ost4l> has anybody here installed kate successfully?
[05:18] <AR45> Bashing-om: Thank you kind sir, send more my way if you come across.
[05:19] <lionroars> lotuspsychje, Ok so can we install Ubuntu with Gnome without Ubuntu Software Center using Minimal disk ?
[05:21] <kisuke> question: im am working on a headless install (litterally, i cant find my VGA cable) does sshd start automaticly on a live CD?
[05:22] <Bashing-om> AR45: There just is not a whole bunch out there, that I am aware of.
[05:24] <CaffeineAddict> I am looking into setting up a mail server on ubuntu 14.  I am currently reading through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[05:25] <CaffeineAddict> If I am understanding this correctly Postfix is a MTA and talks to other mail servers
[05:25] <CaffeineAddict> and Dovecot is a MDA and talks to clients
[05:25] <CaffeineAddict> does Postfix talk to Dovecot directly or do both talk to a database?
[05:26] <agent_white> Evenin'!
[05:27] <Like2HlpU> hi can i help yuo
[05:28] <agent_white> no
[05:28] <daftykins> kisuke: don't think so no
[05:28] <kisuke> daftykins, sshd is there though?
[05:28] <daftykins> not installed i don't think, no
[05:29] <agent_white> if I want to chagen #include "path/to/3dprty/lib/something.h" to inlcude ALL header files under "path/to/3rd/party/lib/", how do I do that in C++?
[05:29] <ilhami> kisuke, what's the problem? :)
[05:30] <agent_white> Not a question for this channel, but figured I'd shoot.
[05:30] <kisuke> ilhami, new install, i cant get my hands on a VGA cable.
[05:30] <agent_white> s/chagen/change/
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | Noah_AT
[05:31] <ilhami> kisuke, you can't get your hands on a VGA cable.. and?
[05:32] <cfhowlett> agent_white, ##c channel
[05:32] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Thank you!
[05:32] <kisuke> ilhami, next best think is if it has kvm over lan (still ironing that down) other than that the only way i can think of to install is going to be via SSH
[05:32] <kisuke> reather controlling via SSH.
[05:33] <ilhami> kisuke aaah ok :)
[05:34] <kisuke> ilhami, you see my delema?
[05:34] <ilhami> heh
[05:34] <agent_white> kisuke: SSH? Are you trying to install over network? (sorry, popped in late)
[05:35] <kisuke> agent_white, pretty much.
[05:35] <kisuke> i know there used to be a way to do it, but cant remember now.
[05:36] <agent_white> kisuke: Can't do a usb/disk?
[05:36] <ilhami> kisuke, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[05:36] <ilhami> did you look at this?
[05:36] <agent_white> kisuke: Also, the default way across a network (if a local comp has the is) is by PXE Boot
[05:37] <agent_white> Aka, if the machine had no OS, no external media drives, this would be the way to do is across a LAN.
[05:37] <Like2HlpU> wut lol
[05:38] <ilhami> I will be back later
[05:38] <kisuke> agent_white, its litterally a headless install, media is not a problem, control is.
[05:38] <agent_white> PXE bootin'. Tis how you get an OS mirrored across 200 pc's at once. Same pricipal.
[05:38] <agent_white> kisuke: OHHH.
[05:38] <agent_white> Nevermind then! :P
[05:39] <Like2HlpU> he only has 1
[05:39] <agent_white> Like2HlpU: I understand, that's why I said "principal". :)
[05:39] <kisuke> agent_white, I've done it, considered v2p, but still the same issue, i suppose i could get a custom livecd spun up in vmware and then use that to bootstrap the installer.
[05:40] <Like2HlpU> dont live cd run vnc
[05:40] <Like2HlpU> use taht
[05:40] <Like2HlpU> !next
[05:40] <kisuke> how does VNC help?
[05:40] <Like2HlpU> uh
[05:40] <Like2HlpU> yes it will help
[05:41] <Like2HlpU> oh how?
[05:41] <Like2HlpU> hmm
[05:41] <agent_white> kisuke: One second, going through IRC logs to see your original issue.
[05:41] <Like2HlpU> then u can do headless
[05:41] <kisuke> Like2HlpU, how do you suggest i get VNC on a machine that has no OS?
[05:41] <Like2HlpU> live cd
[05:42] <kisuke> agent_white, gimme a sec,
[05:42] <kisuke> question: im am working on a headless install (litterally, i cant find my VGA cable) does sshd start automaticly on a live CD?
[05:42] <kisuke> ^ that was my inital question.
[05:42] <agent_white> hm!
[05:42] <Like2HlpU> tias
[05:43] <Like2HlpU> !next
[05:44] <kisuke> Like2HlpU> dont live cd run vnc
[05:44] <agent_white> kisuke: I would try out the live cd on your current pc, and see if sshd is enabled.
[05:44] <agent_white> Otherwise https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[05:45] <kisuke> agent_white, VMWare FTW.
[05:45] <agent_white> kisuke: You figure it out? :D
[05:47] <kisuke> agent_white, waiting to see if the server ISO will autoboot.
[05:47] <kisuke> aaaaand thats a no.
[05:47] <daftykins> it goes to an installer afaik
[05:47] <agent_white> PXE!
[05:47] <daftykins> text mode
[05:48] <Like2HlpU> http://askubuntu.com/questions/3804/can-you-install-ubuntu-from-a-livecd-via-vnc-or-similar
[05:48] <Like2HlpU> i googled it for u bro
[05:48] <Like2HlpU> !next
[05:48] <kisuke> agent_white, no TFTP server, thats might be an option.
[05:48] <agent_white> Like2HlpU: Bad link
[05:48] <kisuke> Like2HlpU, so you can google. good for you.
[05:49] <agent_white> http://serverfault.com/questions/208128/how-to-remotely-install-linux-via-ssh
[05:49] <agent_white> No he cannot.
[05:49] <agent_white> That result was terrible.
[05:49] <agent_white> The one I posted is actually informative.
[05:50] <kisuke> hmm, i wonder if znc caches /block.
[05:50] <Like2HlpU> bad link
[05:51] <agent_white> kisuke: only on tuesdays
[05:51] <Like2HlpU> not informative or relavant
[05:51] <kisuke> excuse me i meant /ignore.
[05:52] <kisuke> although seeing as how its done its probably local only.
[05:53] <Like2HlpU>  7 down vote accepted
[05:53] <Like2HlpU> 	
[05:53] <Like2HlpU> I agree with the sentiment of the other answers here: Although it may be possible to install Ubuntu remotely on RHEL 3.4, you are likely going to be treading on some very thin ice.
[05:53] <Like2HlpU> that one?
[05:53] <Like2HlpU> yeah real good lol
[05:55] <kisuke> yep local only. ballocks.
[05:55] <agent_white> "This question is unlikely to help any future visitors"
[05:55] <kisuke> agent_white, in his defence is is a rare ocorance.
[05:55] <agent_white> From yours LIke2Hlpu :)
[05:55] <akaWolf> hello! can anyone help me with squid3?
[05:55] <agent_white> kisuke: Heh? Not at all.
[05:56] <kisuke> akaWolf, whats the problem if we can we will, else wise we will point you to a better place.
[05:56] <agent_white> kisuke: If you think about the millions of computers manufactered that need an iso ("to be imaged") before shipping. :)
[05:56] <Noah_AT> Hey guys! So, I’m trying to connect to my ubuntu system via my external IP and it seems I cannot for some reason. I’m trying to SSH in. Any ideas?
[05:56] <agent_white> akaWolf: Don't ask to ask, ask your problem!
[05:56] <kisuke> right, how many are doing it remotely w/o hypervisor, etc
[05:56] <Like2HlpU> yeah...  both of those URLs look good tho..
[05:57] <Like2HlpU> if only the page was to
[05:57] <agent_white> Noah_AT: Is the SSH port open in your router to allow TCP traffic?
[05:57] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: can you ping it
[05:57] <Noah_AT> CaffeineAddict: I can ping the external ip
[05:58] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: do you have nmap on your current computer?
[05:58] <akaWolf> I'm installed a squid3, but he is dropped any connection. log of parsing of config: http://pastebin.com/uLBfbqHY
[05:58] <akaWolf> Squid Cache: Version 3.3.8
[05:58] <agent_white> Noah_AT: Type in `ssh -vvv your.ip.address` , put the output in a pastebin.
[05:58] <Noah_AT> CaffeineAddict: Not sure how to ping my ubuntu system. How can I include a port specification when pinging the external IP
[05:58] <Noah_AT> kk will do
[05:59] <Like2HlpU> hmmmm
[05:59] <akaWolf> agent_white: too verbose
[05:59] <Noah_AT> should I do it from the ubuntu machine or from a different one?
[05:59] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: is your ubuntu system behind a router?
[05:59] <agent_white> Noah_AT: Big things are... is the port open on your router and destination_computer for ssh traffic.
[05:59] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: does the router have port forwarding on for port 22
[05:59] <agent_white> akaWolf: "The more the merrier" ;)
[05:59] <Noah_AT> So, it should be on the router. Yes, I forwarded it. Not sure how to check on the ubuntu. It was working, but I updated the ubuntu OS tonight and it no longer works
[06:00] <akaWolf> so can someone help me with squid?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !info sqid
[06:00] <agent_white> CaffeineAddict: Assuming he didn't change the default port... we also don't know if the host he's connecting to has the service running correctly.
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !info squid
[06:00] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: on the ubuntu machine can you ssh 127.0.0.1
[06:00] <agent_white> CaffeineAddict: nice :D
[06:00] <akaWolf> cfhowlett: ?
[06:01] <Noah_AT> worked perfectly
[06:01] <Noah_AT> I can also ssh in from a computer on the local network
[06:01] <agent_white> Noah_AT: Then your SSH runs on the default port, 22. And is running.
[06:01] <Noah_AT> Just not via the external IP
[06:01] <agent_white> Noah_AT: Problem is at your router.
[06:01] <Noah_AT> saweeeet
[06:01] <CaffeineAddict> ok, can you ssh from a computer on the local network (not the ubuntu machine) using the external IP
[06:01] <akaWolf> Noah_AT: yep, definitely...
[06:01] <Like2HlpU> or the gateway setting on the box yea
[06:01] <agent_white> Noah_AT: Like me and CaffeineAddict said, you need to open port 22 on your router to allow TCP traffic.
[06:01] <cfhowlett> akaWolf, this question better addressed in #ubuntu-server   perhaps?
[06:01] <Like2HlpU> check that
[06:02] <Like2HlpU> !next
[06:02] <akaWolf> cfhowlett: maybe
[06:02] <Noah_AT> how can I check my ubuntu’s ip on the network?
[06:02] <Noah_AT> from the ubuntu
[06:03] <CaffeineAddict> ifconfig
[06:03] <Like2HlpU> deprecated
[06:03] <kisuke> akaWolf, you also may wanna try #squid
[06:03] <Like2HlpU> lol
[06:03] <Noah_AT> got it
[06:03] <Like2HlpU> ip addr
[06:03] <akaWolf> kisuke: yep
[06:03] <Like2HlpU> for a loooong time
[06:04] <agent_white> Like2HlpU: I see you're a systemctl supporter
[06:04] <agent_white> \o/
[06:04] <Like2HlpU> yea
[06:04] <agent_white> r/systemctl/systemd/ohjessus
[06:04] <Noah_AT> agent_white: So, if I use the local address I can connect just fine. The router is also showing that the port is forwarded for external tcp/udp use also. Could there be another setting overriding external access?
[06:04] <tasslehoff> I seem to have lost all my command completion (git, svn ++). It does not help to manually source something from /etc/bash_completion.d/ either
[06:04] <agent_white> Noah_AT: NAT could be an issue. Making sure the traffic to 22 is going to that specific computer.
[06:05] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: can you take a screen shot of the router conf screen where you port forwarded port 22
[06:05] <AR45> Question Buntu! How do I identify the hardware on my computer?
[06:05] <Noah_AT> yup
[06:05] <agent_white> Noah_AT: You need to set up port forwarding, like CaffeineAddict said, to forward all port 22 traffic to THAT machine.
[06:05] <agent_white> And that machine needs a static lan ip for that to happen.
[06:05] <Noah_AT> agent_white: Thats how I have it set up :/
[06:05] <Noah_AT> : /
[06:05] <Noah_AT> lol
[06:06] <AR45> Question Buntu! How do I identify the hardware on my computer?
[06:06] <agent_white> Noah_AT: What happens when you ping port 22 from the outside comptuer?
[06:06] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: either static IP or reserve the IP in the routers DHCP
[06:06] <agent_white> And also, `ssh -vvv your.destination.computer`
[06:06] <AR45> Question Buntu! How do I list all of my computer's hardware in terminal?
[06:06] <tasslehoff> ah, the sourcing of /etc/bash_completion was gone. nevermind.
[06:07] <agent_white> AR45: http://superuser.com/questions/303981/what-is-the-linux-command-to-find-out-hardware-info
[06:07] <Noah_AT> agent_white: Great question! I’m wondering the same thing. I can ping the ip, but when I add a port number the ping command fials
[06:07] <Like2HlpU> dunno i like systemctl systemd is ok to
[06:07] <agent_white> Noah_AT: You are pinging that specific port, not the ip, right?
[06:07] <Noah_AT> agent_white: ping ip:port
[06:07] <kisuke> AR45, lshw.
[06:08] <Noah_AT> agent_white: ping ip  (works)
[06:08] <agent_white> Noah_AT: On the remote machine, `ssh -vvv userName_on_remoteBox@remoteBox.ip.address`
[06:08] <CaffeineAddict> local or esternal
[06:08] <Noah_AT> agent_white: ping ip:port (fails - Unknown Host)
[06:08] <Noah_AT> k
[06:08] <agent_white> Noah_AT: We need that input as well. Cause have you copied your public keys to the user on the remote machine?
[06:09] <agent_white> (does that user exist on the machine?)
[06:09] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: does the servers external IP end in 208.59
[06:09] <agent_white> `ssh some.ip.address` translates into `ssh MyLocalUsername@some.ip.address`
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> agent_white, CaffeineAddict we just nmapped his external ip, all port show filtered
[06:09] <Like2HlpU> dont think that has anything to do with ip
[06:09] <Noah_AT> agent_white: yup it does end with that
[06:10] <CaffeineAddict> lotuspsychje: figured as much
[06:10] <agent_white> wat
[06:10] <Noah_AT> agent_white: it looks like the -vvv command is timing out
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> i scanned nmap -PN -sV on his external ip
[06:10] <Noah_AT> agent_white: it ends with 208.59
[06:10] <CaffeineAddict> Noah_AT: take a screen shot of your routers port forwarding config
[06:10] <Noah_AT> will do
[06:10] <agent_white> Noah_AT: Pastebin the output!
[06:10] <agent_white> Including the command you entered.
[06:14] <Noah_AT> CaffeineAddict: how can i show you the screen shot?
[06:15] <Like2HlpU> dunno why ur trying to ping a port either
[06:15] <Like2HlpU> whatev
[06:15] <CaffeineAddict> https://imageshack.com/
[06:16] <Like2HlpU> free support is free
[06:17] <Like2HlpU> are you trying to connect to the 59 address from your lan??
[06:19] <niladri> Can anyone help? The Bluetooth is not working.. Error Message = "No Adapters found"..
[06:19] <kisuke> niladri, what kind of BT adapter are you using?
[06:19] <Like2HlpU> is the hardware (BT) known to be supported?
[06:20] <niladri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246895
[06:20] <niladri> Please go through the forum link
[06:20] <niladri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246895
[06:20] <niladri> All details I have mentioned
[06:20] <Like2HlpU> ok fine pff
[06:20] <niladri> dmesg output
[06:20] <niladri> niladri@niladri:~$ dmesg | grep -i blue
[06:20] <niladri> [ 23.753724] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.17
[06:20] <niladri> [ 23.753752] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[06:20] <niladri> [ 23.753765] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[06:20] <niladri> [ 23.753769] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[06:20] <unopaste> niladri you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:20] <gt8ost4l> i need help anybody here successfully installed kate?
[06:20] <cyborgcygnus> How do you share a file or folder over the network in xubuntu to another linux distro?
[06:21] <Wizard> Hi.
[06:21] <Wizard> Does evolution support carddav?
[06:22] <Like2HlpU> not supported hardware
[06:22] <niladri> Can anyone help me with the Bluetooth adapter issue..
[06:22] <Like2HlpU> !next
[06:22] <Like2HlpU> !ask | gt8ost4l
[06:23] <Like2HlpU> cyborgcygnus, nfs or cifs
[06:24] <gt8ost4l> you know step 6 in the installation im stuck on part 6 http://kate-editor.org/get-it/
[06:24] <Like2HlpU> ugh
[06:25] <Like2HlpU> doesnt ubuntu have kate?
[06:25] <Wizard> It does.
[06:25] <gt8ost4l> yeah but i think its a old version since im on ubuntu 12.04
[06:25] <Like2HlpU> yeah srsly it should
[06:25] <Like2HlpU> ahh
[06:25] <Wizard> Upgrade? :P
[06:25] <Wizard> 14.04 is fine.
[06:26] <vertak> How common are Ubuntu servers in a production setting?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> vertak, common
[06:26] <gt8ost4l> yeah but 12.04 doesnt have the status bar
[06:26] <gt8ost4l> 14.04
[06:26] <gt8ost4l> *
[06:27] <vertak> Any company names come to mind? I have just never heard of any, and wondered why.
[06:27] <cfhowlett> vertak, there's a white paper on canonical with use cases ... wait one, I'll see if I can find it
[06:27] <kisuke> vertak, because ubuntu is not a "shipping" OS. its usually installed after the fact.
[06:28] <Like2HlpU> Wizard, supposedly it does support carddav
[06:28] <kisuke> dell AFAIR does it, IBM is more RHEL, but ubuntu is supported,
[06:28] <vertak> kisuke, what do you mean by that? what is a "shipping" OS?
[06:29] <kisuke> vertak, what it ships with from the factory.
[06:29] <cfhowlett> vertak, OEM - hardware comes with OS pre-installed
[06:29] <Like2HlpU> Wizard, http://carddav.calconnect.org/implementations/clients.html
[06:30] <kisuke> i.e. most desktops come with windoze pre-installed.
[06:30] <cfhowlett> vertak, https://insights.ubuntu.com/case-studies/
[06:31] <cfhowlett> vertak, notably : wikimedia
[06:31] <Like2HlpU> i think canonnical uses ubuntu server
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Like2HlpU, safe to say ...
[06:32] <Like2HlpU> :)
[06:34] <vertak> cfhowlett thanks!
[06:34] <cfhowlett> vertak, happy2help
[06:34] <vertak> kisuke ah ok I see what you mean.
[06:35] <Wizard> Like2HlpU: Thanks
[06:37] <Like2HlpU> no problemo
[06:39] <Like2HlpU> i used mulberry that one was nice
[06:39] <Like2HlpU> dunno if i ever use evolution hmm
[06:57] <phoenixz> So I just purchased an ASUS G750J repulic of gamers laptop.. I installed kubuntu 14.04, and so far, all so good, but it appears Im not using the nvidia GPU.. when I do an lspci, I am not seeing the nvidia gpu at all, I see the builtin intel GPU.. Will I simply not see the hardware at all until I install the driver?
[06:59] <AR45> Where do I set apt-get mirror list?
[07:00] <AR45> which config file?
[07:13] <bubbasaures> AR45, Two places /etc/apt/sources.list is supported same file sources.list.d is third party
[07:14] <IrinaH> Hi, i want to install ubuntu on my notebook
[07:15] <IrinaH> what ios i need?
[07:17] <IrinaH> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:17] <somsip> !bumblebee | phoenixz (maybe worth a look(
[07:18] <phoenixz> Will do, thanks!
[07:18] <phoenixz> Also, webcam not working.. I've checked google, no results at all.. Anybody who might be able to give a pointer on where to start?
[07:24] <lee_> hello
[07:28] <physixer> youtube hd movie playback: how?
[07:28] <physixer> from https://youtube.com/movies that is
[07:30] <Rory> Hi all. Following error starting deluge this morning. deluge isn't running (checked in ps aux). Does anyone know if there's a lock file I need to delete? Can't find anything likely-looking. Error follows:
[07:30] <Rory> [ERROR   ] 08:29:33 ipcinterface:156 Deluge restart failed: Couldn't listen on any:/home/rory/.config/deluge/ipc/deluge-gtk: Cannot acquire lock.
[07:31] <xar-> The real question is, why aren't you using rtorrent, rather than deluge. :)
[07:32] <thms> Hi everyone. If I boot off a liveCD and resize a windows partiton with GParted, my PC will still boot after that right no need to install grub or anything the MBR will be left untouched ?
[07:34] <xar-> Rory: a lot of programs will store their process ID (PID) in a "lock" file, to be referenced by the application. It sounds like Deluge experienced an unclean stop (SIGKILL?). Remove the lock file.
[07:38] <phoenixz> I have an ASUS G750J laptop with NVidia 770M graphics chip... but all I get in kubuntu is that I"m using the built in intel GPU. lspci does not even show the nvidia, and neither does dmidecode.. Any place to start? I tried bumblebee, installed it from command line, did.. .nothign at all that I can see..
[07:40] <IrinaH> Hi, i want to install ubuntu, is oki if i create 2 partition: 1) /  and 2) swap ?
[07:40] <IrinaH> the / will be 250gb
[07:40] <cfhowlett> IrinaH, yes that's fine or your could let ubuntu manage your partitoins
[07:40] <cfhowlett> *partitions*
[07:40] <IrinaH> create a /swap of 180gb
[07:40] <IrinaH> if i put automated
[07:41] <cfhowlett> IrinaH, NOT normal ... did you md5sum the .iso?
[07:41] <IrinaH> i have a 1tb hdd
[07:42] <cfhowlett> IrinaH, noted
[07:42] <eeee> 180 or 18gb? O.o
[07:43] <IrinaH> 180 :)
[07:43] <IrinaH> Fhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:43] <IrinaH> this i download
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | IrinaH, DID YOU VERIFY?
[07:43] <Wizard> Nah, me again.
[07:44] <Wizard> Any known GTK3 themes which have smaller widgets?
[07:44] <IrinaH> what is EFI partiton ? is the boot?
[07:44] <Wizard> These default buttons and other controls are just to large and waste so much space.
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !efi | IrinaH,
[07:44] <IrinaH> cfhowlett, yap work :) i reboot and now show me 17gb
[07:44] <eeee> it's a partition that holds the bootmgr files for the OS's on the machine
[07:44] <IrinaH> aa is uefi
[07:45] <IrinaH> thanks
[07:45]  * IrinaH is time to install ubuntu
[07:45] <IrinaH> i will be back :D thanks
[07:45] <phoenixz> So I just installed the nvidia driver from nvida.com, ran nvidia-xconfig, restarted, and nvidia-settings still gives me "you aren not using the nvida driver"... lspci does not show the nvidia hardware at all. Is this normal?
[07:46] <theadmin> phoenixz: Remove that hamster and use the Additional Drivers utility that comes with Ubuntu.
[07:47] <thms> Hi everyone. If I boot off a liveCD and resize a windows partiton with GParted, my PC will still boot after that right no need to install grub or anything the MBR will be left untouched ?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> thms, quite possible you'll need to update grub.  windows will invoke a chkdsk the next time your boot it
[07:48] <phoenixz> theadmin: hamster?
[07:49] <theadmin> phoenixz: The driver you downloaded from the website. The one provided in the drivers utility is tested with Ubuntu and installs automatically with less headache.
[07:49] <phoenixz> theadmin: you mean the nvidia official driver? alright, how will I uninstall it? run the driver script again?
[07:49] <phoenixz> theadmin: well, the problem there would be.. It does not see the nvidia card at all
[07:50] <phoenixz> theadmin: lsspci doesnt even see the card
[07:50] <theadmin> phoenixz: Ohkaaay, now that is weird.
[07:50] <theadmin> phoenixz: Either way, to uninstall the official driver run the script with --uninstall
[07:50] <yusuf> hellooo ? anyone can help me create upstart script?
[07:50] <yusuf> how to control the restart service command?
[07:51] <theadmin> yusuf: You don't, restart = stop and start
[07:51] <theadmin> It's automated
[07:51] <yusuf> ohhh i see
[07:51] <yusuf> when i service name restart => it will stopped and then started?
[07:51] <theadmin> yusuf: Yeah
[07:52] <yusuf> ahhh my problem solved, thanks theadmin :)
[07:52] <Svetlana> is http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ relevant?
[07:52] <theadmin> Wasn't Ubuntu supposed to switch to systemd?
[07:52] <theadmin> (out of the loop here)
[07:53] <Rory> xar-: That's what I'm asking; how can I find the lock file
[07:54] <phoenixz> theadmin: alright, I'll try that but.. I should see the GPU at the very least while using lspci, no?
[07:54] <theadmin> phoenixz: Yeah, I am honestly confused here.
[07:55] <theadmin> phoenixz: Sorry for the obvious question, but "are you sure that it's plugged in?"
[07:55] <theadmin> Cause, that's literally the only thing I can think of that would make it disappear from lspci altogether.
[07:57] <borw3> Excuse me, I would like to know which is overall better between ubuntu and xubuntu?
[07:57] <theadmin> borw3: There's no "better", it's a personal preference honestly.
[07:57] <CaffeineAddict> borw3: which is better, paper or plastic
[07:57] <theadmin> borw3: They just have different desktops.
[07:58] <borw3> How comes it seems that ubuntu recieves more frequent updates compared to xubuntu?
[08:00] <theadmin> borw3: Uh, that is not true, they share the same package base and get updates exactly at the same time.
[08:03] <IrinaH> :D
[08:04] <IrinaH> I install ubuntu :) , how i see if my nvidia video card is installed
[08:04] <eeee> lspci -v | grep VGA
[08:04] <eeee> that tells you if it sees it
[08:05] <borw3> kernel updates on ubuntu seem more often as compared to xubuntu.
[08:05] <IrinaH> eeee, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[08:05] <theadmin> borw3: Again, that is not true. Same package base.
[08:05] <eeee> IrinaH: sudo lshw -c video | grep driver , that tells you which driver is in use
[08:05] <theadmin> borw3: They literally get all software from the same servers.
[08:06] <theadmin> borw3: You might just have used Ubuntu during time when kernels were updated more often for some reason.
[08:06] <eeee> IrinaH: that's all it gave?
[08:06] <IrinaH> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[08:06] <IrinaH> configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[08:06] <IrinaH> eeee, i install ubuntu on notebook
[08:07] <theadmin> IrinaH: If your nvidia card is not in the list it may be disabled in BIOS settings
[08:08] <eeee> IrinaH: you can see some info if you press on the dash ( first icon in the launcher on the left ), and type drivers, then press on additional drivers
[08:08] <IrinaH> when i used windows :) frist card was intel, only if i run games / movie / ... run on nvidia
[08:09] <gdm85> hi there! TightVNC never had an ssl faeture, right?
[08:09] <theadmin> IrinaH: Ah, Optimus.
[08:09] <theadmin> IrinaH: You need to install nvidia-prime
[08:09] <gdm85> s/faeture/feature/
[08:09] <guest-PxmbWc> my ubuntu 14.04 start constantly freezing today! but everything works fine on the guest login
[08:09] <IrinaH> theadmin, how?
[08:09] <theadmin> IrinaH: From a Terminal: sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[08:10] <theadmin> IrinaH: Then run "sudo prime-select nvidia" and Ubuntu should start using your NVidia card.
[08:10] <IrinaH> need restart?
[08:10] <theadmin> Not sure, probably.
[08:10] <IrinaH> let me reboot
[08:10] <theadmin> You will need to restart X (log out and back in) at the very least.
[08:13] <IrinaH> Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled
[08:13] <IrinaH> :(
[08:15] <iptable> IrinaH, did you install the proprietary nvidia graphics drivers?
[08:15] <IrinaH> no, i just install ubuntu from usb
[08:16] <iptable> IrinaH, you will need nvidia drivers before nvidia-prime (graphics card chooser) starts to work
[08:16] <iptable> let me get the right line for it
[08:16] <IrinaH> thanks
[08:16] <IrinaH> i need to remove nvidia-prime?
[08:16] <kaiserlol> 30fps with lol
[08:16] <iptable> IrinaH, no, leave it there
[08:16] <IrinaH> Nvidia Gefore 740M
[08:17] <iptable> IrinaH, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers; sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[08:17] <iptable> IrinaH, after these are run, reboot and you should be good to go.
[08:18] <IrinaH> thank :**
[08:18] <IrinaH> s/thank/thanks
[08:19] <iptable> IrinaH, DO report if the second to last command gives you errors (the apt-get install build-essential linux-headers)
[08:20] <IrinaH> :*
[08:20] <IrinaH> i install classic gnome is oki no?
[08:20] <iptable> IrinaH, that's irrelevant tbh
[08:21] <IrinaH> reboot time
[08:21] <IrinaH> brb'
[08:21] <iptable> cool
[08:24] <IrinaH> back
[08:24] <IrinaH> i type: sudo prime-select nvidia , and not give me anything
[08:24] <IrinaH> aa wih run
[08:25] <IrinaH> Info: the nvidia profile is already in use
[08:25] <IrinaH> work
[08:25] <IrinaH> no>
[08:25] <IrinaH> ?
[08:26] <iptable> IrinaH, right, so it is using the profile for the nvidia card
[08:26] <theadmin> IrinaH: Should work now.
[08:26] <kaiserlol> server add -auto -network mired irc.freenode.net
[08:26] <iptable> IrinaH, but did you run the commands I asked you to? without the nvidia drivers it won't do you much good.
[08:26] <theadmin> kaiserlol: Here take: /
[08:26] <kaiserlol> ¬¬
[08:27] <IrinaH> iptable, what command?
[08:27] <theadmin> iptable: Doesn't nvidia-prime depend on nvidia-current?
[08:27] <iptable> theadmin, yes, but nvidia will fail to install unless you manually install headers and build-essential. otherwise it won't compile.
[08:27] <iptable> theadmin, sounds like broken dependency but I always had this issue
[08:27] <priuon> Which texlive package contains the texlive gui application?
[08:28] <theadmin> iptable: Oh...
[08:28] <iptable> IrinaH, this one (or 4 to be exact): sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers; sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[08:28] <iptable> IrinaH, run one at a time and see if you get errors. if you do, stop and report to us what the error says
[08:29] <iptable> theadmin, actually, funnily enough, prime doesn't depend on nvidia current.
[08:29] <priuon> texlive-base texlive-full and texlive-binaries doesn't seem to have it
[08:31] <iptable> priuon, don't seem to have what? according to docs texlive package contains texlive gui
[08:31] <IrinaH> ok
[08:32] <priuon> iptables apt-cache policy shows all installed in recent version but the bin is not there (texlive)
[08:32] <iptable> priuon, for a wysiwyg, you can try: LyX, for GUI you may try Kile (KDE deps warning)
[08:32] <priuon> or anything resemblingt the name (from what I found now)
[08:32] <lionroars> what is the default kernel in 14.04?
[08:32] <IrinaH> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers
[08:33] <priuon> iptable: I know about lyx but I was looking for the simple texlive editor with a compile button ....
[08:33] <IrinaH> E: Package 'linux-headers' has no installation candidate
[08:33] <cynicallemon> linux-headers-amd64 ot i386
[08:34] <IrinaH> not work
[08:34] <iptable> IrinaH, provide please: uname -a
[08:35] <IrinaH> Linux marketing 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 22 21:28:38 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:36] <iptable> priuon, there is a LOT of binaries provided by texlive binary pacakge
[08:36] <iptable> priuon, tried: tex ?
[08:36] <priuon> iptable: it seems to be a shell
[08:37] <priuon> iptable: What can I do to get the gui in my situation?
[08:37] <iptable> priuon, apart from using the GUI tools I have mentioned to you, I can only help by giving you a list of binaries that texlive provides to look through: http://pastebin.com/RD3vNMcG
[08:38] <lionroars> IrinaH, do you run Haswell graphics ?
[08:38] <IrinaH> no know
[08:38] <priuon> iptable: it doesn't show texlive there. is the gui some other bin?
[08:38] <iptable> IrinaH, hold on, let me check
[08:38] <iptable> priuon, that's al lthere ix in texlive-binary package
[08:39] <lionroars> what is a low latency kernel ?
[08:39] <IrinaH> k
[08:39] <iptable> lionroars, it's a kernel compiled for low latency IRQ (device) access, e.g. network access
[08:40] <iptable> IrinaH, then instead run: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-3.13.0-37 linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic
[08:40] <lionroars> iptable, I am running an ubuntu based OS it uses it, what are the advantage ?
[08:40] <iptable> IrinaH, then instead run: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-3.13.0-37 linux-headers-3.13.0-37-generic linux-headers-generic
[08:40] <iptable> that one ^
[08:40] <IrinaH> pff
[08:41] <IrinaH> i press that
[08:41] <IrinaH> linux-headers-generic is installed
[08:41] <kaiserlol> keep calm
[08:41] <iptable> IrinaH, that's fine
[08:41] <iptable> IrinaH, and build-essential installed?
[08:41] <IrinaH> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-opencl-icd-331-updates nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[08:41] <IrinaH> all ok
[08:41] <IrinaH> reboot?
[08:41] <iptable> lionroars, if your OS/app depends on close-to-0-latency of your cards, then either that OR sometimes it's used on embedded machines which don't have an RTC
[08:42] <iptable> lionroars, for standard use - no reason whatsoever
[08:42] <iptable> IrinaH, yes
[08:42] <bong1> the latest version of chrome crashes on lubuntu 14.04.
[08:42] <iptable> bong1, if you start it from command line, does it tell you why?
[08:43] <priuon> iptable: this is a list I created on editors. It's expiering, you might want to keep it for support.
[08:43] <lionroars> iptable, ok, my haswell graphics experience shows Standard only
[08:43] <lionroars> any help ?
[08:43] <priuon> :::http://pastebin.com/eBGvNKe3
[08:44] <iptable> lionroars, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Studio#Low-latency_kernel
[08:44] <bong1> iptable: i dont know. how do we start it from command line??
[08:44] <iptable> priuon, cool. cheers
[08:44] <IrinaH> donne :)
[08:44] <iptable> bong1, open command line, type in: google-chrome
[08:45] <iptable> IrinaH, that should be all that's required and you should be running nvidia now :)
[08:45] <mariachi> hey! anyone else using an ALFA AWUS036NHR (RT8188)? It's using the rtl8192cu driver (14.04). i see lots of SSIDs and connect to them, but after that nothing happens ie there's no traffic or only for some seconds and then it has problems reconnecting. I'm in germany and CRDA is always making my regdom US (my laptop was bought in Malaysia) even after reg set DE
[08:45] <iptable> bong1, did you upgrade your OS before running latest chrome? sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:46] <IrinaH> thanks iptable
[08:46] <iptable> IrinaH, no problem at all
[08:46] <IrinaH> is a vnc client on ubuntu?
[08:47] <iptable> mariachi, that chipset is locking to US region. welcome to cheap world :P
[08:47] <iptable> mariachi, set your APs to only work on 2.4GHz, not 5GHz and set them to a static band (e.g. channel 6). Then connect and it should work.
[08:47] <IrinaH> xvnc4viewer
[08:48] <iptable> IrinaH, lots of them.
[08:48] <iptable> IrinaH, I had a name of a very good one somewhere, hold on
[08:48] <bong1> this is what my command line says... ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
[08:48] <bong1> [2175:2175:1009/164607:ERROR:desktop_window_tree_host_x11.cc(1547)] Not implemented reached in void views::DesktopWindowTreeHostX11::MapWindow(ui::WindowShowState)
[08:48] <iptable> IrinaH, remmina is a brilliant one. Supports vnc, rdp and other protocols with even tunneling if required. it has a nice simple GUI.
[08:49] <iptable> IrinaH, xvnc4viewer doesn't have a GUI and you start it form command line which is good if you are command-line-savvy
[08:49] <iptable> bong1, how did you install that chrome?
[08:49] <IrinaH> ah let me remove
[08:50] <iptable> IrinaH, Irina is a name from what country? (just asking)
[08:50] <lionroars> iptable, can we use a libre kernel in Ubuntu ?
[08:51] <IrinaH> from India but i am not :D i like movies
[08:51] <mariachi_> hey! anyone else using an ALFA AWUS036NHR (RT8188)? It's using the rtl8192cu driver (14.04). i see lots of SSIDs and connect to them, but after that nothing happens ie there's no traffic or only for some seconds and then it has problems reconnecting. I'm in germany and CRDA is always making my regdom US (my laptop was bought in Malaysia) even after reg set --- sorry if double posted, connection dropped
[08:51] <IrinaH> us
[08:51] <IrinaH> iptable,  Greek
[08:51] <iptable> IrinaH, ah, Romania
[08:51] <IrinaH> :)
[08:52] <iptable> cool
[08:52] <iptable> lionroars, what is the actual problem you have?
 mariachi, that chipset is locking to US region. welcome to cheap world :P
 mariachi, set your APs to only work on 2.4GHz, not 5GHz and set them to a static band (e.g. channel 6).
[08:52] <iptable> mariachi_, ^
[08:53] <lionroars> iptable, my haswell graphics experience states its standard, I want 3d support
[08:53] <lionroars> I am using 14.04
[08:53] <iptable> lionroars, haswell which one?
[08:53] <mariachi_> iptable, even though mine says "German Revision"?
[08:53] <IrinaH> let see if remmina wor
[08:53] <IrinaH> work
[08:54] <lionroars> iptable, 4400 with i3-4130
[08:54] <iptable> mariachi_, looks like thta could possibly be the issue. Have you tried an external WiFi dongle to confirm it's your laptop chip and not the network?
[08:55] <iptable> lionroars, what's telling you that it states it's standard? also what is your lspci ?
[08:55] <iptable> lionroars, oh, and lsmod
[08:55] <lionroars> iptable, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[08:56] <IrinaH> uff
[08:56] <bong1> iptable:  i dont  remember.  i installed it thru synaptic probably. and then its been doing some updates for some time and now the latest update crashes on lubuntu,.
[08:56] <mariachi_> iptable my issue is with an external wifi "dongle" it's actually a long-range usb adapter
[08:56] <iptable> IrinaH, uff? :P
[08:56] <IrinaH> conect me and close the window
[08:56] <mariachi_> iptable Bus 003 Device 010: ID 0bda:817f Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188RU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[08:56] <IrinaH> aa work
[08:56] <iptable> bong1, try removing it and intalling again
[08:56] <IrinaH> i not selected the quality
[08:56] <IrinaH> :*
[08:57] <iptable> mariachi_, oh. does a different dongle work?
[08:57] <tkschmidt> is it okay to ask a few c++ questions? cant join #c++
[08:57] <IrinaH> thanks
[08:57] <iptable> IrinaH, you like abusing the kiss emoticon :P
[08:57] <lionroars> iptable, http://pastebay.net/1504830
[08:57] <iptable> tkschmidt, can't join it why?
[08:58] <mariachi_> iptable I don't have another one to compare, but my internal wireless works great, it's just that I'm trying to connect to a far away network (my long range thingy gets a full power signal)
[08:59] <iptable> lionroars, my advise would be: 1. try it on ubuntu 14.04 itself, not ubuntu-based-distro and see if problem persists. if so, on that ubuntu itself, fully upgrade: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Test again. that will tell you if it's your ubuntu-based issue.
[08:59] <tkschmidt> i`m redirected to #overflow because the server told me thez are under attack
[08:59] <iptable> mariachi_, are you SURE it's full power? it could be just saying that before connection attempt. some controllers do that.
[08:59] <iptable> mariachi_, if you connect to a network close-by, does it work?
[09:00] <iptable> tkschmidt, it's working now
[09:00] <tkschmidt> oh, okay thx :)
[09:00] <lionroars> iptable, but can we install and run libre kernel on Ubuntu ?
[09:00] <mariachi_> iptable, it will connect once, allow me to browse for some seconds and then drops the connection and won't reconnect again
[09:01] <bong1> iptable: is it okay if i install it thru synaptic  again?? or lubuntu software center? which do u recommend?
[09:01] <iptable> lionroars, you can compile and run any kernel you want. stability will not be guaranteed and it's way outside ubuntu support since ubuntu has a perfectly working standard kernel
[09:02] <iptable> mariachi_, either controller is faulty or you are too far or it's a cheap copy
[09:02] <tkschmidt> iptable, #c++ seems invite only
[09:02] <lionroars> iptable, ok how can I set the repo not to install any non-free software
[09:02] <lionroars> ?
[09:02] <tkschmidt> Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited
[09:02] <iptable> bong1, you can use either. synaptic is fine. or you can fetch a fresh deb file from google itself and install their latest chrome deb (stable!)
[09:02] <iptable> tkschmidt, it's ##c++
[09:02] <iptable> not #c++
[09:03] <tkschmidt> shame on me
[09:03] <iptable> lionroars, that I don't remember
[09:09] <yocapybara> guys do you know why if I updated from 10.04 to 12.04 using do-release-upgrade, why I'd get loads of 'Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)'?  I'm guessing my sources.list is now screwed, but why would an upgrade screw it up, what mechanism is at work here?
[09:09] <lionroars> iptable, no problem thanks for all your help
[09:09] <lionroars> I appreciate it
[09:10] <bong1> iptable: i tried to remove it by
[09:10] <bong1> sudo apt-get remove google-chrome and then it says Package 'google-chrome' is not installed, so not removed
[09:10] <bong1> whaat?? i am sure i installed this sometime ago.
[09:10] <iptable> maybe via deb...
[09:10] <theadmin> bong1: It's not the right name. It's google-chrome-stable or google-chrome-beta, depending on which you picked.
[09:12] <Bnaya> I want to throttle wget progress update to be every 1MB to so, is it possible?
[09:12] <Bnaya> Becouse i’m excution in a way that every progress tick is a new line (via vagrant shell provision if its matters)
[09:14] <theadmin> Bnaya: You can use wget -q to supress output altogether.
[09:15] <Bnaya> theadmin: curretly i’m using -nv, but i want some progress update. could it be possible with curl?
[09:17] <yocapybara> guys, anyone know if 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com' deprecated or invalid to have in sources.list?
[09:17] <yocapybara> I notice repogen.simplylinux.ch gives uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:18] <theadmin> yocapybara: gb. is an official mirror, the uk. one isn't
[09:18] <theadmin> yocapybara: It appears to work fine.
[09:19] <yocapybara> theadmin: I wonder what the 10.04->12.04 upgrade has done to screw up access to gb.archive.ubuntu.com.    Thanks for your help!
[09:19] <yocapybara> one day I'll figure this stuff out
[09:20] <iptable> there are still people only now upgrading from 10.04
[09:21] <bong1> iptable: do you mean to 10.04?
[09:22] <yocapybara> iptable: company I work for has about 10 of these boxes, I'm trying to figure out an ansible playbook that upgrades them all to 12.04 then to 14.04 - I keep coming up against problems though.  First revision of the script everything was great until I finally restarted and I got nothing but a cursor after the bios.  Going step by step now
[09:23] <yocapybara> but for some reason every time I go to from 10.04 to 12.04 I always get errors when trying to update apt cache
[09:26] <yocapybara> ...but it must be a peculiarity of this box/config/network
[09:26] <theadmin> yocapybara: Are you sure you're not pointing to old-releases.ubuntu.com?
[09:26] <theadmin> Or some alternative thereof.
[09:27] <theadmin> Either way, the Software Centre provides a mirror search tool, run that and it should fix things for you
[09:27] <yocapybara> theadmin: I think this is some DNS weirdness - if I try a straightforward ping to gb.archive.ubuntu.com, I get unknown host
[09:27] <theadmin> yocapybara: Oh, huh.
[09:27] <theadmin> yocapybara: Set DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 then try again.
[09:30] <iptable> bong1, from. 10.04 is long out of support and some people are only now moving away from it...
[09:31] <iptable> yocapybara, from 10.04, since you passed the out-of-support-deadline, I would suggest doing a reinstall one by one. especially if some of them are servers. upgrading live servers is a badIdea(tm)
[09:33] <yocapybara> iptable: yup I'm definitely going to go one by one, starting with the QA (currently on a QA server that nobody cares about), hoping to iron out funnies with each subsequent server.  It wouldn't be good for my blood pressure to aim ansible at the entire lot and say do 10 concurrent :)
[09:34] <bong1> iptable: i thought that 10.04  will be supported until 2019. or was that 14.04?
[09:35] <theadmin> bong1: 14.04, 10.04 is already out of support.
[09:36] <lionroars> in the graphics section does it show anything about Experience: Standard ?
[09:38] <vir2> e/j #cairo-dock
[09:41] <bong1> chrome still freezes the mouse on lubuntu  even after a reinstall.
[09:43] <Yossarianuk> hi - I'm trying to make a an updated package for ubuntu 13.04 for bash
[09:43] <Yossarianuk> (yes I know its EOL..)
[09:43] <Yossarianuk> i have used 'apt-get source bash'
[09:43] <Yossarianuk> then added 4.2 patches from https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/
[09:43] <bong1> chrome on youtube still freezes the mouse on lubuntu  even after a reinstall.
[09:44] <Yossarianuk> to the debian/patches folder
[09:44] <chemist^> bong1, why do you use chrome? firefox is better IMHO
[09:44] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:45] <theadmin> chemist^: It's a personal preference, please don't start browser wars here.
[09:46] <chemist^> lol :D browser wars? :)
[09:46] <bong1> chemist^: chrome loads  youtube videos faster than firefox.
[09:46] <chemist^> it's just that i find it working better in linux, less issues with compatibility...
[09:47] <theadmin> chemist^: Also, unfortunately, Chrome is the only way to get an up-to-date version of Flash on Linux, because Adobe stopped updating their NPAPI version on Linux.
[09:47] <Yossarianuk> and added the patches to 'debian/patches/series.in'
[09:47] <iptable> bong1, there is 5 years support nowadays. 10.04 had 3 years for desktop
[09:47] <chemist^> bong1, i have no problems with the loading speed of YT videos in FF.... boo
[09:47] <Yossarianuk> the new pactahes from gnu.org do not apply/
[09:48] <theadmin> Yossarianuk: This channel does not provide support for EOL versions of Ubuntu.
[09:48] <chemist^> theadmin, didn't know that
[09:48] <theadmin> chemist^: I mean, the old version Ubuntu's got in the repos still works, but it's probably missing some fancy new features already.
[09:49] <theadmin> chemist^: Like, I'm pretty sure it can't hardware acceleration.
[09:49] <bong1> chemist^: thats only bcoz u have lots of ram.
[09:49] <chemist^> theadmin, i always installed it manually, never used the one in the repos :)
[09:49] <theadmin> chemist^: Same thing -- the version on the website is older than the version Chrome provides
[09:50] <chemist^> bong1, really i think is a CPU thing...not ram
[09:50] <chemist^> theadmin, oh...ok... well for now i don't need the updated one, since this one works fine for my needs
[09:50] <dale_>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic i686 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.00GHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.0GB, 73.4% free ** Disk: Total: 71.4GB, 88.7% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI2: USB-Audio - USB Audio CODEC ** Ethernet: Realtek Semic
[09:50] <dale_> onductor Co., Ltd. 139C/8139C+ Ethernet Controller ** Uptime: 1h 37m 39s **
[09:50] <theadmin> chemist^: Kinda sad. Just saying... there are also some weird websites that only work in Chrome :/
[09:51] <chemist^> bong1, a friend of mine has 8 gb of RAM ... but has a shitty CPU so the videos load for ages :P
[09:51] <bong1> chemist^: thats only bcoz u have lots of ram or a fast cpu  was what i meant
[09:51] <chemist^> bong1, 8 gb ram, quadcore 3.6 ghz ... not that fast (nowadays)
[09:52] <chemist^> it was, when i bought it ;D
[09:52] <iptable> Core i7 (4-core) 3.4GHz, 16GB RAM, 4 TB HDD, some nvidia mobile card. That's my laptop :P
[09:52] <chemist^> maybe the gpu has also an effect on that
[09:53] <chemist^> nice
[09:53] <chemist^> i have AMD ;)
[09:53] <iptable> yes, gpu is nowadays used for numerical operations, also the ones other than just graphiccs
[09:53] <chemist^> and a HD graphics 2 gb
[09:54] <iptable> ya, I got intel second graphics. it's a shame that VT-d for GPU doesn't work as bios has shadow GPT allocation bug
[09:54] <iptable> or I would be able to run 2 OS natively!"
[09:54] <iptable> at the same time
[09:54] <chemist^> iptable, although this is my desktop pc... i have an old HP laptop, works great still :D 1.6 GHz (intel centrino) 2 gb ram - 160 gb disc :P
[09:54] <iptable> centrino
[09:54] <chemist^> the centrino was really a good cpu
[09:54] <bong1> mine is only 1gb ram, dualcore 1.0 ghz so chrome on lubuntu loads faster .
[09:54] <iptable> that's slow
[09:55] <chemist^> dualcore 1.0?
[09:55] <chemist^> does that even exist? :D
[09:55] <iptable> it does. banana pi
[09:55] <chemist^> iptable, what's slow...the centrino? :D or his cpu?
[09:55] <iptable> like raspberry pi, but better
[09:55] <iptable> his cpu
[09:55] <chemist^> :P
[09:55] <iptable> centrino too
[09:55] <iptable> :P
[09:55] <chemist^> haha it's old
[09:56] <chemist^> but it surprises me from time to time on how good the performance is relative to the age and specs of the laptop
[09:56] <bong1> chemist^: yes. it did exist a decade ago. lol
[09:56] <chemist^> :D
[09:56] <iptable> I'm guessing you haven't tried using chrome on it :P
[09:56] <iptable> or windows 8.1
[09:56] <chemist^> bong1, is that a laptop? or desktop?
[09:56] <iptable> chemist^, get a banana pi
[09:57] <chemist^> iptable, hahaha of course not...windoz sux anywayz
[09:57] <iptable> it works with ubuntu, where raspberry pi didn't
[09:57] <chemist^> i had windows xp on it for a while...to play age of empires 2 ;D LOL
[09:57] <iptable> nice
[09:57] <iptable> good ol times
[09:57] <chemist^> with a couple of friends LAN party :P
[09:57] <iptable> http://www.bananapi.org/
[09:58] <chemist^> it's cause one of the other 4 people had a really old desktop pc on which nothing worked, except age2 :D
[09:58] <skizu> Hey I'm trying to create a vertual python environment by running this command virtualenv venv and get the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/8526034/
[09:58] <chemist^> iptable, yes i was thinking of getting one of those...and make a firewall out of it
[09:58] <theadmin> skizu: "Read-only filesystem".
[09:59] <skizu> theadmin: But I can do something like sudo mkdir test no problem
[09:59] <iptable> it's damn fast. ARM cortex A7, dual core, 1GHz, 1GB RAM, HDD and sd connection, HDMI, gigabit eth, USB ports, it's a beast of a cheap machinery.
[09:59] <theadmin> skizu: Are you in a location that you have no write access to? In that case, you need to use virtualenv with sudo (bad idea, too -- just create the environment somewhere under $HOME)
[10:00] <chemist^> iptable, yes but it has no hd ... the most expensive component :P
[10:00] <skizu> Time to move my git repo
[10:01] <iptable> I got 250GB+ hdds laying around, so not a problem here
[10:01] <robin77> Hello all.
[10:02] <iptable> wow
[10:02] <robin77> Does anyone now a 64-bit memory test tool, memtest86+ does not go further than 64 GB.
[10:03] <skizu> theadmin: Cheers, I think it due to the fact where it was trying to go was a shared folder
[10:04] <iptable> robin77, a 32-bit test tool without PAE would not go over 4GB actually
[10:05] <iptable> how many GB have you got?
[10:06] <bekks> iptable: A 32bit WITH PAE can only address 4GB per thread.
[10:06] <bekks> Thats the basic cveat of PAE.
[10:06] <iptable> bekks, so he has got 16 threads on his machine with over 64GB of RAM?
[10:06] <robin77> If run memtest86+ and it test the first 64 GB, but we run 512 GB per server. So 7/8 is not tested.
[10:07] <bekks> iptable: No. HE is using the 64bit version.
[10:07] <blackyboy> Here i have 2 websites one based on html content and other based on PHP content. This is the main domain nagajeeviapps.com. First virtualhost working as per my need. if i access nagajeeviapps.com it want to forward towards www with https its working fine. But the second virtual host if iam accesing nagahiring.com its forwarding to one of my subdomain learn.nagahiring.com, Could any one help me how to fix it ? Please have a note on my virtualhost entry 
[10:07] <iptable> robin77, what is your CPU and how much RAM has the physical machine got?
[10:07] <robin77> iptable, dual 8 core with HT and 512 GB per server.
[10:07] <qknight> hi. got an ubuntu 14.04 server here and i'm vulnerable to https://shellshocker.net/ bug: CVE-2014-6277 (segfault): VULNERABLE
[10:08] <qknight> what can i do to fix CVE-2014-6277 (segfault): VULNERABLE?
[10:08] <bekks> qknight: You have to wait for the fix or recompile bash on your own.
[10:08] <qknight> sorry, my system is a 12.04 not 14.04
[10:08] <iptable> robin77, nice HW. why so much RAM? out of couriosity
[10:08] <qknight> bekks: ok, good to know. but why did that patch not arrive yet i wonder?
[10:08] <bekks> qknight: And as long as you arent using cgi script running bash, that CVE is not considered critical.
[10:09] <qknight> bekks: i hope i don't. thanks a lot!
[10:09] <iptable> robin77, there exists memtest64, but never used it. let me check.
[10:09] <bekks> qknight: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-6277.html
[10:09] <robin77> iptable, we have build a Hadoop cluster and we run all data in memory. 4 Blades, interconnected with 10 GbE.
[10:10] <iptable> ah, that makes sense. sounds like database mayhem all over again.
[10:10] <bekks> robin77: You could run an extended server selftest. Thats pretty much more reliable.
[10:11] <iptable> robin77, get this memtest image. it supports up to 2TB of RAM on x64
[10:11] <iptable> robin77, http://www.memtest.org/
[10:11] <iptable> version 5.01
[10:12] <robin77> iptable, We have asked Dell for a memory test tool, and all they got is a Dell Boot image with memtest86+
[10:12] <iptable> robin77, you asked dell for support? :P first error.
[10:12] <iptable> robin77, get that memtest.org image, burn it. version 5.01 supports 2TB of RAM on x64. if it doesn't work still, your RAM is broken.
[10:13] <Yossarianuk> ok i have another question (general linux) - how can I do a sed find/replace if the thing I what to find/replace has a forward slash in ?
[10:13] <bekks> Yossarianuk: Escape the slash.
[10:13] <Quatroking> question over here: at home, my laptop auto-connects to my wifi during login. But at uni, it doesn't auto-connect to the eduroam wifi during login. How can I fix this?
[10:14] <robin77> iptable, Great, must have used an older version. Will try the 5.01
[10:14] <Quatroking> Right now I have to manually connect, which is literally two clicks, but it's still two clicks.
[10:14] <iptable> cool
[10:14] <yocapybara> theadmin: problem solved, now I've got a different one - adding google DNS fixed it :) cheers
[10:14] <Yossarianuk> bekks: thanks ! I should have remeber that from the LPI course i did 10 years ago...
[10:15] <theadmin> yocapybara: Go figure, your ISP fails
[10:15] <Yossarianuk> yocapybara: you are not with virgin are you?
[10:15] <theadmin> yocapybara: Call them and complain if you feel like it.
[10:16] <yocapybara> Yossarianuk: no these servers are colocated in a data center in London.  Before I complain I might have to dig deeper into how they have been set up, for all I know they might have been misconfigured to start with
[10:16] <iptable> Yossarianuk, that's a very personal question. no, my one is not a virgin. why ask?
[10:17] <iptable> and lol @virgin ISP in UK. Their DNS is almost always foobar. they also do bad traffic shaping and have the worst customer support
[10:17] <robin77> iptable, i have checked, now installed 4.10. Will upgrade this one to 5.01 version.
[10:17] <robin77> iptable, Thanks.
[10:18] <iptable> robin77, no probs
[10:19] <iptable> Yossarianuk, sed 's/something\/with\/three\/slashes/replacement\/slashes\/string/g'
[10:19] <Yossarianuk> iptables: thank you 1
[10:19] <bekks> robin77: Your 512GB servers - are they custom built server, or some stock servers like HP, Oracle, etc.?
[10:19] <theadmin> iptable: That's awful seding.
[10:20] <iptable> theadmin, why?
[10:20] <Yossarianuk> iptable: I was referring to the ISP 'virgin'
[10:20] <theadmin> Yossarianuk: sed 's#something/with/three/slashes#replacement/slashes/string#g'
[10:20] <theadmin> iptable: You don't have to use a forward slash as the argument separater. Can be any non-alphanumeric character.
[10:20] <iptable> theadmin, try sedding this: [my string/ contains \\ bad characters! with $]haha
[10:20] <Yossarianuk> (its a UK ISP - the same company does music, planes, trains, etc)
[10:20] <Yossarianuk> (they signed the sex pistols...)
[10:20] <Yossarianuk> 9I think)
[10:21] <yocapybara> guys anyone got hit by this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1067992
[10:21] <iptable> theadmin, no, the question was hwo to escape something that has a slash. and answer is to \. that was an example
[10:21] <theadmin> iptable: Ah alright.
[10:21] <iptable> Yossarianuk, I know. that was a joke.
[10:21] <theadmin> Yeah, you can escape things using a backslash.
[10:21] <bekks> theadmin: sed 's#some weired / containing text#replacement text#'
[10:21] <iptable> theadmin, try to escape [\\] :D \]\\\\\]
[10:22] <Yossarianuk> iptable: ah - sorry .... I guess non UK people may wonder why I'm asking people about virgins....
[10:22] <iptable> I'm in UK. I understood perfectly and made a very tasteless joke, British style
[10:22] <theadmin> iptable: Try to escape a UNC path... you get something like \\\\server\\share\\... And if you're doing it in a string (containing the regex) in a programming language: \\\\\\\\server\\\\share\\\\...
[10:22] <theadmin> iptable: Now that looks terrible.
[10:23] <iptable> theadmin, try to miss one \ :D
[10:24] <theadmin> iptable: And there's nothing you can really do about it, because a backslash will always have to be escaped
[10:25] <iptable> theadmin, unless you can single-quote
[10:25] <gansteed> virtualbox's vrdp not work ? Is it a bug?
[10:25] <bekks> gansteed: No?
[10:26] <bekks> gansteed: How did you configure it? Did you meet all requirements?
[10:26] <theadmin> gansteed: Do you have the Oracle Extension Pack Thingamabob installed?
[10:26] <theadmin> gansteed: (whatever the proper name is)
[10:26] <theadmin> gansteed: Without it, VRDP does not work, even if you enable it in the settings and all that.
[10:26] <bekks> gansteed: the extension pack needs to be installed in the very same version as vbox.
[10:27] <gansteed> yeah, I installed.
[10:27] <bekks> gansteed: Which version of the extension pack, which version of vbox?
[10:27] <gansteed> extpack has the same version with vbox
[10:27] <gansteed> vbox_4.3.10_ubuntu
[10:27] <bekks> gansteed: And which version is it, exactly?
[10:28] <bekks> gansteed: I suggest updating to the latest official vbox version, which is 4.3.16
[10:29] <gansteed> vrdp workd on your vbox?
[10:29] <bekks> gansteed: Sure.
[10:29] <Bray90820> What tablet would you recommend for the desktop version of ubuntu
[10:29] <gansteed> I tested it in my system, rdesktop 127.0.0.2:3389
[10:29] <gansteed> it doesn't work
[10:30] <bekks> gansteed: So tell us how you configured VRDE.
[10:30] <bekks> gansteed: Pastebin VBoxManage showvminfo .... please.
[10:32] <gansteed> VRDE:            enabled (Address 0.0.0.0, Ports 3389, MultiConn: off, ReuseSingleConn: off, Authentication type: null)
[10:32] <gansteed> VRDE property: TCP/Ports  = "3389"
[10:32] <gansteed> VRDE property: TCP/Address = <not set>
[10:32] <gansteed> VRDE Connection:    not active
[10:32] <bekks> Since you did not configure 127.0.0.2 as listening address, you have to use the IP address of your host, not localhost.
[10:33] <gansteed> not active? but I enabled it...
[10:33] <bekks> gansteed: There is no _active_ connection.
[10:34] <gansteed> rdesktop localhost:3389
[10:34] <gansteed> Autoselected keyboard map en-us
[10:34] <gansteed> ERROR: Connection closed
[10:34] <gansteed> I use localhost, It doesn't work, too
[10:34] <bekks> gansteed: You did not read what I just told you.
[10:34] <bekks> gansteed: You should NOT use localhost but the IP of your host.
[10:35] <gansteed> Thank you ;p but I don't know my host's ip address
[10:35] <lionroars> http://bayimg.com/jaaeDaaGp
[10:35] <lionroars> see this ^^
[10:36] <lionroars> is my graphics working ?
[10:36] <gansteed> I use a connection of 'NAT'
[10:36] <lionroars> or Experience is suppose to be 3d ?
[10:37] <amigojapan> hey guys, I am looking for the wubi download page, and all the documentation seem to point me to the main ubuntu download page, where can I donwload wubi?
[10:37] <romance> !wubi | amigojapan
[10:38] <bekks> gansteed: Then find it out, since you are running the host.
[10:38] <bekks> gansteed: And NAT refers to the IP of the guest, not the host.
[10:38] <lionroars> iptable, http://bayimg.com/jaaeDaaGp kindly see this and tell me is my graphics card working or Experience : 3D is what is should show ?
[10:39] <amigojapan> romance: I have been in that page,   the "download " just redirects to the main ubuntu download page, and i cant find wubi on it
[10:40] <gansteed> I'm confused with "host ip" and "localhost ip", isn't it the same thing?
[10:41] <romance> amigojapan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/
[10:41] <amigojapan> romance: those download links are broken
[10:41] <amigojapan> romance: 404
[10:43] <amigojapan> Not Found  The requested URL /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/wubi/20130402/amd64.tar.xz was not found on this server.
[10:44] <amigojapan> besides I dodnt know how I am supposed to extract a tar.xz in windows
[10:44] <amigojapan> I was expecting an exe file
[10:44] <hateball> amigojapan: Use 7zip
[10:45] <robin77> bekks, They are Dell Blade Servers. C6220 II
[10:45] <TMan459> Anyone use minidlna? Anyone with an ObjectID or root container list so I can set "Music/Artist" as the root directory?
[10:45] <amigojapan> ok hateball , thanks, it seems the top links are brokwn, but the bottom one worked
[10:45] <gansteed> bekks: does your "host" means the guest OS? or something else? I'm sorry, but I'm confused now,
[10:47] <romance> amigojapan: well, i gave you amigojapan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/
[10:48] <tasslehoff> how do I reset dns cache on ubuntu 14.04?
[10:54] <marcje24> Hi, I work at techsupport and been given the chance to follow some Linux / tech courses in order to grow towards a sysadmin function. I've already gained basic experience using vim / configuring apache / using DNS and stuff like that. Are the LPIC courses (https://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/programs) a good place to start and / or does someone here know other courses to start with?
[10:55] <kevindf> Hi, i'm trying to add "sudo iptables -I INPUT 12 -i any -p udp --dport 9987 -j ACCEPT" to my iptables but i get the error message "iptables: Index of insertion too big.'
[10:56] <kevindf> anyone know a solution for this?
[11:03] <kestasjk> just got my media server set up with ubuntu, really nice
[11:03] <kestasjk> ubuntu has come a long way
[11:06] <yocapybara> guys I'm getting some weird error when doing do-release-upgrade through ansible - any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8526246/
[11:06] <kevindf> Hi, i'm trying to add "sudo iptables -I INPUT 12 -i any -p udp --dport 9987 -j ACCEPT" to my iptables but i get the error message "iptables: Index of insertion too big.'
[11:07] <kevindf> anyone know what's going wrong here?
[11:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:07] <jpds> kevindf: Do you have 12 existing rules?
[11:08] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[11:10] <jpds> kevindf: sudo iptables -L -vn
[11:11] <kevindf> did that, how can i see howmany rules i have now?
[11:12] <kevindf> there's alot of information
[11:12] <jpds> kevindf: Look at the INPUT chain and count them.
[11:12] <kevindf> i have 7 of them at the moment
[11:15] <dbolser> hi
[11:15] <dbolser> just building a vm for 'bio-linux'
[11:15] <dbolser> seems to be gnome3 ... can anyone help me turn off transparency and animation?
[11:16] <dbolser> the vm will be running on low end hardware in a training room
[11:16] <OerHeks> dbolser, what is bio-linux ? this is ubuntu support only
[11:16] <dbolser> OerHeks: it's a ubuntu distro with some extra repos pre-built
[11:16] <dbolser> I should say, pre-packaged
[11:17] <facepalm> It's a deb/ubuntu distro focused on science. OerHeks
[11:17] <dbolser> but it's basically ubuntu
[11:17] <hichamat> I added this line to crontab ( * * * * * echo "ok" ) this must show 'ok' each minute in the console, but it does not show anything
[11:17] <somsip> dbolser: way so much not supported.
[11:17] <dbolser> somsip: ?
[11:18] <eeee> hichamat: it won't show anything in your console
[11:18] <wolf___> hello
[11:18] <BluesKaj> hi OerHeks
[11:19] <dbolser> just wondering how to speed it up...
[11:19] <dbolser> I could switch to mint over g3 I guess?
[11:19] <dbolser> I mean, cinamon
[11:20] <dbolser> but just turning off animation and tx would be a good first step
[11:21] <OerHeks> dbolser, Install compizconfig-settings-manager and got to Ubuntu Unity Plugin -> Experimental(Tab) from there you can set Lauch Animation, Urgent Animation and Dash Blur to `None'
[11:22] <dbolser> OerHeks: many thanks, just got to that place with google :-)
[11:23]  * dbolser waits for updates to finish
[11:24] <kevindf> what's the advantage of setting up a mysql database for teamspeak 3 on a server?
[11:27] <raidghost> Any RSS feed indicator for Unity to recommand?
[11:28] <raidghost> Found feedindicator but there was some errors from the installer. Bad install quality
[11:29] <mozzarella> guys help
[11:29] <dbolser> mozzarella: OK!
[11:29] <compdoc> glad to help cheese ppl
[11:29] <mozzarella> I want a screenlocker similar to gnome's
[11:30] <mozzarella> displaying the current time
[11:30] <OerHeks> raidghost, maybe this rss indicator is better > http://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/useful-panel-indicators-collection-for.html
[11:32] <raidghost> OerHeks: OerHeks: Thanks for the advice, i will check it out;)
[11:38] <mozzarella> I want a screenlocker similar to gnome's
[11:42] <dfcnvt> Resizing and placing window to specific position via (Ctrl + Alt + NumPad) has been useful from time to time...But now, I get a feeling that it's becoming somewhat limited. Is there a way to resize a window to 1/3rd or 1/4th of a screen?
[11:43] <dfcnvt> (exclude from using a mouse to resize it)
[11:44] <dbolser> mozzarella: tried googling?
[11:52] <dbolser> I'm using the compizconfig-settings-manager, can't i just disable compiz?
[11:52] <dbolser> I just want a 'clean and quick' desktop
[11:52] <dbolser> nothing fancy
[11:52] <dbolser> i.e. I can't seem to turn off transparency
[11:52] <bazhang> !lubuntu | dbolser
[11:53] <dbolser> bazhang: is there an easy way to move from g to l?
[11:53] <bazhang> or if you still want gnome, try gnome-shell dbolser
[11:53] <dbolser> bazhang: is gnome-shell ~= gnome 2?
[11:53] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop package dbolser
[11:53] <bazhang> gnome3
[11:53] <dbolser> bazhang: iirc, I just install that and then select it at login?
[11:54] <bazhang> you're thinking of gnome-fallback
[11:54] <bazhang> correct
[11:54] <bazhang> !find gnome-fallback
[11:55] <bazhang> gnome-session-fallback it is
[11:55] <bazhang> err flashback
[11:56] <dbolser> ty
[11:56] <Bnaya> what is couchbase ppa for 12.04? i can find only for older versions
[11:56] <dbolser> unfortunately don't have much time to work on thsi
[11:56] <bazhang> Bnaya, contact the maintainer
[11:57] <marlinc> Hello! Anyone with experience installing Ubuntu on a iMac? I have to enable 'nomodeset' in order to actually get something on the screen. But when I enable 'nomodeset' I don't have 3D acceleration
[11:57] <bazhang> whats the video chipset marlinc
[11:57] <marlinc> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV730/M96-XT [Mobility Radeon HD 4670]
[11:58] <rps_> JACKNIFE 64" 2015 HEARTLAND PIONEER
[11:58] <bazhang> is that older?
[11:58] <bazhang> rps_, wrong channel?
[11:59] <OerHeks> Bnaya, couchedb for 12.04 14.04 https://launchpad.net/~couchdb/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[11:59] <marlinc> Its a mid 2010 iMac
[11:59] <bazhang> could be amd dropped support for that
[12:00] <marlinc> Well I think they did because their closed-source driver doesn't detect it
[12:00] <rps_> bazhang: yes, my apologies
[12:00] <OerHeks> Bnaya, maybe i am wrong and couchbase is something different ?
[12:04] <marlinc> bazhang, any other solution you know of?
[12:04] <victor> I ran the upgrade-from-grub-legacy command by mistake. Is it possible to role back from the GRUB2 installation?
[12:04] <victor> *roll
[12:05] <bazhang> marlinc, use a DE without 3D?
[12:05] <marlinc> That's not a solution
[12:06] <bazhang> marlinc, your card is not supported, what solution do you expect
[12:06] <marlinc> Well it is by the open-source driver
[12:07] <gnome-of-ubuntu> Anyone know what repository unity is from?
[12:10] <gnome-of-ubuntu> (gnome-of-ubuntu) Anyone know what repository unity is from?
[12:10] <The-Compiler> How are upstream upgrades handled in Trusty? http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/python3-pyqt5 is on 5.2.1 while upstream is at 5.3.2 - can I expect an upgrade of this at some point, or only for Utopic?
[12:11] <ilhami> back :D
[12:11] <OerHeks> The-Compiler, for utopic i guess
[12:12] <knightwise> morning peeps
[12:12] <OerHeks> gnome-of-ubuntu, gnome section
[12:13] <The-Compiler> looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates now
[12:13] <ilhami> what login manager do you use?
[12:14] <ilhami> the default one on elementaryOS seems a bit heavy. :D
[12:16] <OerHeks> ilhami, that is why we cannot answer, this is ubuntu support only
[12:16] <OerHeks> lightdm is light
[12:16] <ilhami> ok sudo apt-get install lightdm ? will that work?
[12:17] <gnome-of-lawn> I installed GNOME over Unity. When i upgrade to Utopic will Unity try to install itself again?
[12:17] <OerHeks> ilhami, no, as lightdm is installed already on ubuntu/kubuntu and such
[12:17] <ilhami> let me ask in their channel :)
[12:18] <Phyliares> Hello, where is the best place to exec script on session opening for all users?
[12:20] <eeee> Phyliares: post X?
[12:20] <Phyliares> yes
[12:20] <OerHeks> Phyliares, /etc/profile.d/
[12:21] <eeee> try /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[12:21] <Phyliares> OerHeks: that's where i put it, but doesn't seems to be executed
[12:21] <backbox> Hi
[12:21] <eeee> ( @ Phyliares )
[12:21] <Turingi> have people reported firefox crashes after the latest Flash update?
[12:21] <OerHeks> Phyliares, make sure it can be read > sudo chmod +r /etc/profile.d/myscript.sh
[12:22] <Phyliares> OerHeks: Yes ofcourse, but executed only for shell sessions..
[12:22] <arpd> what's the channel for 14.10?
[12:22] <Ben64> #ubuntu+1
[12:22] <arpd> ty
[12:23] <Phyliares> eeee: thanks, will try that, i thought that was only a place to source file, not sure if it will be executed
[12:23] <backbox> My internet is connected but I can't load any pages after running a script of TOR. I can't ping either, is there a problem in my config? http://pastebin.com/XJ9YZtFr please check and tell me. My internet stopped working completely as I can't load anything.
[12:24] <backbox> Is there something in /etc/hosts that isn't allowing me to load any page?
[12:24] <backbox> im using a liveusb to connect to IRC
[12:25] <Ben64> backbox: what version of linux
[12:25] <backbox> ben64: ubuntu 14.04
[12:26] <Ben64> oh wait, where did you get the tor script, ask them for help
[12:26] <Kamuela> Can I install b43 firmware without internet access? Is there a package somewhere that I can copy through a USB?
[12:26] <gnome-of-lawn> I installed GNOME over Unity. When i upgrade to Utopic will Unity try to install itself again?
[12:26] <backbox> ben64: the TOR script just starts tor
[12:26] <arpd> has anyone seen this error before when trying to load an nvidia module? "nvidia: Unknown symbol mcount (err 0)"
[12:27] <OerHeks> gnome-of-lawn, it will be upgraded yes
[12:28] <gnome-of-lawn> How can i stop it from doing that?
[12:28] <iptable> gnome-of-lawn, if you don't want unity, installing ubuntu-server and your GNOME and other stuff on top would be preferred.
[12:28] <OerHeks> gnome-of-lawn, remove any package you don't want upgraded? i think upgrading unity does no harm
[12:29] <iptable> gnome-of-lawn, but did you remove unity? if not, whats the problem? you still have it with gnome and your lightDM lets you choose which GUI to boot into
[12:29] <gnome-of-lawn> Is there a file i can change? I know that ubuntu GNOME and ubuntu unity are the same except for DE
[12:29] <iptable> gnome-of-lawn, you mean you install ubuntu-gnome pacakge?
[12:29] <amigojapan> hateball: I downloaded amd64.tar.xz   and once I extracted it, there is no .exe or any kind of executable file inside....
[12:29] <iptable> no such package
[12:29] <gnome-of-lawn> I did remove unity. The issue is that i don't want it back
[12:30] <iptable> gnome-of-lawn, if you removed unity, it won't come back.
[12:30] <gnome-of-lawn> Ok thanks.
[12:30] <iptable> gnome-of-lawn, things that are removed don't automatically spring back to life.
[12:30] <Ben64> why would you want to upgrade to 14.10 though? 14.04 has support for 5 years, 14.10 for 9 months
[12:30] <iptable> and that gnome-of-lawn ^
[12:30] <gnome-of-lawn> In an upgrade sometimes things happen i just wanted to make sure
[12:31] <iptable> gnome-of-lawn, 1. why upgrade to non-LTS? 2. why upgrade to BETA which isn't stable released yet?
[12:31] <iptable> we cannot guarantee what happens if you upgrade to a non-stable one
[12:32] <iptable> What is ubuntu kylin?
[12:32] <arpd> iptable: A chinese version of ubuntu
[12:32] <iptable> oh, that. ok
[12:32] <iptable> cheers
[12:32] <arpd> does anyone know why nvidia now by default drags in nvidia-prime & bbswitch-dkms?
[12:33] <Ben64> for optimus support
[12:33] <bekks> arpd: What do you mean by that?
[12:33] <iptable> arpd, yes. it's a dependency and part of the actual driver now. it gives optimus support and most machines on market have 2 GPUs. looks like the future
[12:33] <OerHeks> Ben64 +1
[12:34] <arpd> fair enough
[12:34] <amigojapan> the wuibi documentation says "look for wubi.exe at the bottom of the page"   but it does not exist! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_download_Wubi.3F
[12:34] <iptable> arpd, so prime goes there so that if you do have 2 GPUs, you can switch. if you have 1, just don't run prime from command line.
[12:34] <bekks> amigojapan: Do not use Wubi. Install Ubuntu on a second partition or in a vm.
[12:35] <arpd> has anyone seen this error before when trying to load an nvidia module? "nvidia: Unknown symbol mcount (err 0)"
[12:35] <iptable> amigojapan, The WUBI installer is on the 14.04 ISO and works with windows up to 7. Windows 8 and Windows ME are not supported by WUBI. The only ISO that does not have WUBI is the 13.04 version (and that is end of life already)
[12:35] <amigojapan> bekks: I am looking for a quick way to get it on my wife$s computer, I have used it before
[12:35] <amigojapan> btw, I found wubi.exe, sorry guys, the documentation is confusing
[12:35] <bekks> amigojapan: Do not use Wubi for any productive intention.
[12:35] <iptable> amigojapan, you might end up with an old version of wubi
[12:36] <iptable> amigojapan, The WUBI installer is on the 14.04 ISO and works with windows up to 7. Windows 8 and Windows ME are not supported by WUBI. The only ISO that does not have WUBI is the 13.04 version (and that is end of life already)
[12:36] <iptable> amigojapan, also, it's not stable for production use, but it's your call.
[12:36] <amigojapan> iptable: I dont have a CD drive, or a SUB disk to burn the ISO to
[12:36] <amigojapan> USB*
[12:37] <Kamuela> Can I install b43 firmware without internet access? Is there a package somewhere that I can copy through a USB?
[12:37] <Ben64> get yourself a flash drive, they're quite handy
[12:37] <amigojapan> iptable: I am not using it for production
[12:37] <iptable> amigojapan, 1. download the ISO, 2. explore ISO (tons of free tools), 3. get the exe file from it
[12:37] <OerHeks> !offline | Kamuela
[12:37] <Ben64> Kamuela: you've been asking this for days now, can you not just hook up ethernet temporarily?
[12:37] <amigojapan> ok iptable , I will try that then
[12:38] <iptable> Kamuela, yes you can. 1. get a massive hard drive, 2. mirror the official repo to your drive, 3. use that as your repo for offline use.
[12:38] <iptable> a very big USB hard drive :P
[12:38] <Kamuela> Ben64, I'm in another country and don't feel like walking 5 miles in the cold to get an ethernet cable
[12:39] <booby_tables_24> How big is the repo gonna be anyways?
[12:39] <iptable> so you are asking this for days because you are too lazy to get yourself an eth cable from a shop?
[12:39] <iptable> does not compute :LD
[12:39] <Kamuela> so we are basically saying that there's this whole magical world of ubuntu and there is literally no other option
[12:39] <amigojapan> iptable: do you know a trustwordy app for getting just the wuibi.exe file?
[12:39] <iptable> booby_tables_24, 642GB for package archives
[12:39] <arpd> Kamuela: what's wrong with that URL?
[12:39] <Ben64> I don't understand how people don't have a flash drive or an ethernet cable lying around somewhere
[12:40] <iptable> amigojapan, from windows 7?
[12:40] <amigojapan> yes iptable
[12:40] <arpd> rather, with the instructions at that url
[12:40] <OerHeks> Kamuela, there is, read back please
[12:40] <Kamuela> arpd, which url? i'm having trouble finding it
[12:40] <iptable> amigojapan, http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/
[12:40] <amigojapan> ty iptable
[12:40] <lazors> Ben64: One day, you won't understand how people don't have a drone lying around somewhere that can fetch us a flash drive or an ethernet cable. ;)
[12:40] <booby_tables_24> That kinda seems tiny compared to my 4tb hdd
[12:40] <OerHeks> Kamuela, big red letters, hard to miss
[12:40] <iptable> amigojapan, and that one too: http://www.winiso.com/support/tutorials/mount-iso-in-windows7.html
[12:41] <amigojapan> ty iptable
[12:41] <iptable> no probs
[12:41] <arpd> Kamuela: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168352/how-do-i-generate-a-package-download-list
[12:41] <iptable> Kamuela: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD
[12:42] <iptable> although, dependencies requiring upgrades might break this :D
[12:42] <Kamuela> iptable, can't solve this problem of no internet access with another computer with internet access lol
[12:42] <arpd> Kamuela: then how are you on IRC?
[12:42] <Kamuela> phone
[12:42] <arpd> and this machine has no USB ports?
[12:42] <iptable> Kamuela, you have another computer WITH internet access?
[12:42] <iptable> Kamuela, share internet connection from your phone
[12:42] <Kamuela> you may be on to something
[12:42] <arpd> if it's a recent-ish android / iphone you should be able to tether easily
[12:43] <iptable> plug it in, enable internet sharing on your phone. all android and I think iphones phones do tethering for wifi and USB tether
[12:43] <Kamuela> wow, that just may work. let me see
[12:43] <arpd> Kamuela: you _may_ run in to a problem with your service provider though, some explicitly disallow tethering
[12:44] <Kamuela> arpd, well you said wifi tethering so we will see if that works
[12:44] <iptable> :/
[12:44] <Ben64> without wireless drivers?
[12:45] <iptable> without wireless drivers, only USB tether will work
[12:45] <Kamuela> but it wouldn't be a broadcom thing. it'd be USB tether yes
[12:45] <arpd> Kamuela: why wireless? do you not have a usb cable?
[12:45] <Kamuela> arpd, no no, i do. i mean instead of 4G tethering can i use wifi tethering
[12:45] <dine909> does the display manager have a bearing on opengl performance?
[12:45] <arpd> Kamuela: oh, right; yeah that should be okay
[12:46] <iptable> Kamuela, out of interest, apart from phone, does your home have internet?
[12:46] <Kamuela> iptable, yep that's why i'm tryinng to setup this computer's wireless drivers lol
[12:46] <arpd> Kamuela: in future always carry a cat5 around with you
[12:46] <iptable> Kamuela, and you don't have a single ethernet cabled-device at your home?
[12:47] <Kamuela> iptable, DONE, it worked all  had to do was plug it in and turn it on, you folks are geniuses
[12:47] <iptable> why thank you
[12:47] <iptable> I will print that chat message and laminate it
[12:49] <iptable> done
[12:49] <Kamuela> this is literally so genius lol. i have full internet access through the home's wifi on my phone. had to plug it in and worked flawlessly
[12:49] <arpd> Kamuela: isn't technology amazing.
[12:49] <dominik_> USN-2376-1 broke precise updates: "linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-70-generic which is a virtual package."
[12:50] <dominik_> anyone knows when linux-image-3.2.0-70-generic is going to be uploaded?
[12:50] <iptable> Kamuela, a more proper question for the future would be: I have a wifi-only connection, a phone with internet and a computer without wifi drivers. how to get internet on that computer
[12:50] <iptable> asking the right question is 90% of success
[12:51] <IrinaH> Hello :)
[12:51] <iptable> hello again
[12:51] <IrinaH> is compatible skype on ubuntu?
[12:51] <IrinaH> :**
[12:52] <arpd> yes IrinaH
[12:52] <iptable> IrinaH, yes. go to skype.com, download and install
[12:52] <IrinaH> thanks
[12:52] <iptable> IrinaH, once you download the deb skype package, dpkg -i your-skype-package-name.deb will isntall it. if using 64-bit system, you will get dependency errors. Then run: apt-get -f install
[12:52] <iptable> IrinaH, all commands with sudo please
[12:53] <iptable> IrinaH, that will install skype and all dependent packages
[12:53] <IrinaH> 12.04 multiarch
[12:54] <iptable> IrinaH, sudo dpkg -i skype-file-whatever-it-is-called.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install
[12:54] <IrinaH> :*
[13:03] <Kamuela> test
[13:05] <Foorack> awdawdawdawdawd
[13:06] <Foorack> ops, sorry!
[13:06] <Foorack> btw, I'm currently trying to learn ubuntu,specially firewalls and iptables..
[13:07] <Foorack> My question is, could someone just look over then config and see so I wont lock myself out :| http://pastebin.com/vPacKTk6
[13:08] <cecja> Foorack: well it depends on how you want to talk to the machine...
[13:08] <freezer> hi
[13:08] <Foorack> cecja, I'm currently ssh'ing into the machine.
[13:09] <freezer> looking for a howto to install the NVIDIA drivers on the MacBookPro late 2013 (GTX 750)
[13:09] <Foorack> Do you know if I apply that config to iptables, will it lock me out? :P
[13:09] <freezer> i installed them via ubuntu package and via NVIDIA binary, but it both cases i get an empty desktop
[13:09] <freezer> meaning only background pic and no start menu etc
[13:09] <Kamuela> the next question is now not officially an ubuntu one. it wants to use data rather than the wifi. when i first plugged it in it was happily using the wifi connection. i wonder if there's a way to force wifi. but it's an iphone... it's not like there are hidden options
[13:10] <cecja> Foorack: no it would not
[13:10] <iptable> Foorack, should not ,, BUT
[13:10] <Foorack> iptable, but what? Is there something I have forgot?
[13:10] <iptable> Foorack, from a screen session (screen), run that iptables rule, followed by sleep 120 and followed by iptables -F (all in one line with semicolon. if you get locked out, in 120 seconds, rules with flush and you are back online
[13:11] <Foorack> ok, thanks!
[13:11] <iptable> Foorack, so: screen. In screen do this: /your/command/to/apply/rules; sleep 120; iptables -F
[13:11] <iptable> Foorack, that gives you 120 seconds to test
[13:11] <Foorack> Thank you so much iptable :P
[13:11] <Foorack> Will try,
[13:11] <Foorack> brb
[13:12] <iptable> no probs
[13:12] <iptable> keeping up to my nick :D
[13:12] <sls>  /join #als
[13:12] <iptable> try without the space
[13:12] <sls> hello
[13:12] <GRMrGecko> Hello, I have a Dell Dimension 3100 and need a GPU to add DVI or HDMI. The computer seems to only have PCI slots. Any recommendations? The one I was looking into was under "Supported, but Hardware is Too Old for Unity"
[13:13] <vinit-ivar> \wc
[13:14] <cecja> GRMrGecko: Do you just need to add a DVI or HDMI Port, if yes just use an adapter otherwise get a matrox g450pci  its cheap and works.
[13:15] <GRMrGecko> cecja: Reason for DVI or HDMI is I have only one monitor with VGA
[13:18] <GRMrGecko> cecja: does that support unity?
[13:18] <GRMrGecko> or does it go to the CPU like the ATI 9000 I was looking at?
[13:19] <arpd> for those that were curious, I figured out my problem with the nvidia driver; I had pointed c++ and cc to clang++ and clang
[13:20] <GRMrGecko> cecja: you can test with /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[13:24] <GRMrGecko> apparently can't run the command myself via ssh
[13:27] <freezer> should i use the AMD64+Mac install image for a recent macbookpro?
[13:27] <iptable> freezer, latest ubuntu 14.04 with macbookpro. 64 yes.
[13:29] <freezer> iptable, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/Saucy
[13:29] <freezer> here it says: The 2013 MacBook Pro can recognize multi-boot CD image (e.g., Ubuntu's official iso). So there is no need to use the "mac" iso image for installation. In fact, I recommend you avoid the "mac" iso image because it is a BIOS-boot only image and will force the Mac to enter BIOS emulation mode to install Ubuntu, which will need to be fixed to boot in its native EFI mode.
[13:30] <freezer> so it is recommended to use the regular AMD64 image, rather then the one marked for Mac
[13:31] <iptable> yes, that what I just said
[13:31] <iptable> freezer, latest ubuntu 14.04 with macbookpro. 64 yes.
[13:31] <iptable> standard ubuntu x64 14.04 iso
[13:31] <freezer> ok
[13:31] <freezer> i'm trying 14.10
[13:33] <iptable> freezer, 14.10 is not out yet, and as such is beta, may break your mac and is not recommended. also out of support of this channel
[13:34] <iptable> freezer, any reason you want a 9-month-livespan version instead of the 14.04 LTS 5 year support version?
[13:35] <yeats> freezer: /join #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 support
[13:35] <[jasper]> hej guys, for some reason I can't login to lightdm when my system boots.
[13:35] <[jasper]> can anybody tell me where I can find the error log?
[13:36] <iptable> why is someone by name of jsues006 sending a CTCP PING to me? what's that anyways?
[13:36] <yeats> [jasper]: should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar
[13:36] <freezer> iptable, i was hoping that the hardware support might be better
[13:36] <Foorack> iptable, it worked. Thanks! :D
[13:37] <iptable> freezer, not really. not on a beta
[13:37] <iptable> Foorack, no probs
[13:37] <yeats> freezer: you should definitely use 14.04 for now - wait until the 14.10 release later this month
[13:37] <freezer> well the 'beta' is going to get releases in 2weeks
[13:38] <freezer> so how unstable can it be?
[13:38] <yeats> freezer: still unstable though
[13:38] <freezer> hmm
[13:38] <freezer> ok i will try with 14.04 then
[13:38] <yeats> freezer: trust us, if you are new to this, stick with stable ;-)
[13:39] <freezer> not new, but the beta2 i installed before didn't work with the NVIDIA drivers
[13:39] <philinux> yeats;~ #ubuntu+1 has hardly any chat at all just hide join stuff. Hardly ever seen any support going on in there. Which is a shame.
[13:39] <iptable> philinux, that's because it's hard to justify trying to support a beta
[13:39] <freezer> btw i'm wiping MacOS away using only Ubuntu :)
[13:40] <iptable> freezer, there you go. stick with stable. and 14.04 IS 5 years of support, so no need to reinstall/upgrade in 9 months
[13:40] <philinux> iptable;~ not support just queries and discussion would be good
[13:40] <ilhami> any FTP clients you can recommend?
[13:40] <ilhami> besides filezilla
[13:40] <iptable> philinux, looks like 99.999% of people use stable
[13:40] <iptable> FTP is still used?
[13:40] <iptable> why can't it just die
[13:40] <philinux> iptable;~ yep, back on topic now
[13:40] <ilhami> iptable, it is used yeah
[13:41] <iptable> ilhami, filezilla is the best for the aging dying FTP protocol if it comes to GUI
[13:41] <[jasper]> I'm trying to setup lightdm to automatically start PLEX. is there anybody that can help me witht his?
[13:41] <iptable> ilhami, but WHY!
[13:41] <dominik_> ilhami: on the CLI I very much like lftp
[13:41] <[jasper]> or tell me at least how I can enter the desktop environment
[13:41] <freezer> my company didn't wanna buy me a 1000eur thinkpad :( but they are buying 2000eur macbooks...
[13:41] <ilhami> because my host supports it. iptable and I just need to upload a small website to my server
[13:41] <ilhami> it will take 1 second
[13:41] <freezer> so i had to go with the expensive macbook :p
[13:41] <ilhami> and I don't need anything fancy.
[13:42] <iptable> ilhami, filezilla
[13:42] <ilhami> I could also use SFTP if that makes you happier?
[13:42] <iptable> ilhami, FTP is already fancy. using FTP is as dreadfully fancy as you can get with ftp,ftps,active,passive,multiport design failure.
[13:42] <iptable> ilhami, sftp, like scp, uses just one port and is sane. it also works iwth standard scp client
[13:43] <iptable> it also supports proper encryption
[13:43] <ilhami> iptable, ok but filezilla also works with sftp for your info
[13:44] <iptable> ilhami, I know that. I didn't say it didn't. FTP is dreadful though and sftp is a MASSIVE improvement in security, protocol and design.
[13:44] <ilhami> iptable, ok I hope my host supports it.
[13:44] <iptable> ilhami, and sftp works with what you asked for - simple client. scp
[13:44] <iptable> ilhami, note that sftp !- ftps
[13:44] <iptable> they are different
[13:44] <iptable> one is sftp and another is just ftp with encryption
[13:44] <ilhami> ok :) which one is better?
[13:45] <cecja> iptable: yes but it`s so hard on the cpu with a lot of users
[13:45] <dominik_> iptable: well, for anonymous uploads of large files, ftp still seems a better solution than e.g. an in-browser flash and/or javascript solution
[13:45] <iptable> ilhami, sftp
[13:45] <iptable> ilhami, avoid ftp if you can. if you can't avoid it, use filezilla
[13:45] <iptable> cecja, what is your CPU?
[13:45] <iptable> cecja, heavy as in, on a pentium4?
[13:46] <cecja> iptable: it doesnt demend on the single usecase
[13:46] <ilhami> thanks for your advice iptable
[13:46] <iptable> dominik_, so what is wrong with webdav?
[13:46] <iptable> i'm using it for years now.
[13:46] <iptable> cecja, ok, pentium3 too. what's your point?
[13:47] <charles130> help
[13:47] <iptable> let's use unencrypted traffic and share our mysql password in php files over unencrypted channels because encuyrption requires more CPU cycles?
[13:47] <iptable> ilhami, ^ use encryption btw, if you have mysql passwords in that website's files
[13:48] <ilhami> iptable, it's a static site.. made with jekyll
[13:48] <ilhami> lol
[13:48] <ilhami> no need to
[13:48] <iptable> heh, ok.
[13:48] <cecja> iptable: there are better ways for filetransfer.
[13:48] <helmut_> hi
[13:49] <ilhami> helmut_, hi
[13:49] <dominik_> iptable: webdav with davfs2 is pretty nice, but you need to install something. ftp upload works with pretty much any os that has a tcp stack
[13:49] <iptable> cecja, any way is better than ftp. If you disagree, then you never implemented ftp server before with a proper firewall. there is java, javascript, flash, webdav, sftp, scp, cifs, html5, anything!
[13:49] <dominik_> but I agree, securitywise sftp is the way to go
[13:50] <cecja> iptable: cool your blood sftp is not the answer to the ftp problem.
[13:50] <iptable> dominik_, well, it's got popular when nothing else was there and is still available. so is a lot of other old junk. if we start usting other stuff, ftp will finally die as it should.
[13:50] <lacrymology> I need to do a release upgrade.. how much am I going to suffer?
[13:50] <ilhami> iptable, SFTP is not supported by my bad hosting company hehe
[13:50] <ilhami> lacrymology, it depends
[13:50] <iptable> cecja, no, my answer was filezilla. and I also went beyond by explaining that ftp should be avoided.
[13:50] <ilhami> from which version
[13:50] <lacrymology> 13.10
[13:51] <iptable> ilhami, filezilla then... and bad company living in the 90s
[13:51] <ilhami> do you know it? Unoeuro.com
[13:51] <ilhami> ?
[13:51] <ilhami> I will never choose that host again hehe
[13:51] <GRMrGecko> cecja: Just bought Matrox G450
[13:52] <GRMrGecko> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matrox-G450-32MB-Dual-DVI-VGA-Monitor-Win7-XP-PCI-Video-Card-Driver-Adapter-/221571128326?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3396ab1c06
[13:52] <iptable> ilhami, 1and1 are pretty good if I may make a suggestion. website lite is just 1 GBP for first year :P good offer.
[13:53] <iptable> but loads of much ceaper and good providers too. anyways
[13:53] <ilhami> lacrymology, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[13:53] <ilhami> I would suggest you look at this
[13:55] <AR45> Followed many guides. Can't get any sound on my Mac Book.
[13:59]  * iptable goes for a break
[14:00] <ilhami> AR45, why did you buy a Mac? :D
[14:04] <OerHeks> +
[14:04] <Wollie88> Lets be  honest, apple hardware does look nice
[14:04] <AR45> ilhami: Doesn't exactly solve the problem.
[14:04] <yocapybara> get guys any ideas?  I upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 with do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive - when I reboot, after the bios screen I just see a few "error: file not found" messages for a fraction of a second then the screen goes blank apart from a cursor
[14:04] <ilhami> Wollie88, well that's your opinion.
[14:06] <yocapybara> pressing esc during startup doesn't seem to do anything, holding left shift key down during startup doesn't seem to do anything
[14:07] <ilhami> yocapybara, can you even do anything? like ctrl + alt + F1 ?
[14:07] <ilhami> sorry  I am a noob trying to help you :D
[14:09] <yeats> yocapybara: can you catch what the file not found errors actually say?  maybe with a screenshot?
[14:13] <yocapybara> ilhami: just tried ctrl-alt-f1, nada :) thanks anyway
[14:13] <kevindf> Would it be possible to use a domain name located on a home server with a dns service like no-ip and use the domain as a regular website also (one that's hosted on a external hosting service)?
[14:14] <yocapybara> yeats: it doesn't specify - just error: file not found.  If it does specify then it is too quick.  I don't think I'd be able to screengrab it, it is too quick :(
[14:14] <khildin> kevindf: yes that is possible. You have to create a CNAME record for the no-ip address
[14:14] <kevindf> ok, thanks glad to hear that's possible
[14:17] <iceroot> is it possible to open 2 vpn connections? because nm-applet is only offering one connection at the time, i would need 2 (of course the vpns have different networks)
[14:19] <ilhami> iceroot, http://askubuntu.com/questions/190899/is-it-possible-to-connect-to-multiple-vpn-networks-at-once-via-network-manager
[14:20] <ilhami> http://superuser.com/questions/709376/is-it-possible-to-have-2-different-vpn-connections-simultaneously-on-the-same-ma
[14:21] <ilhami> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1344093
[14:21] <ilhami> iceroot, look at these
[14:22] <Anuska> iptable, :*
[14:23] <ilhami> he is away.
[14:23] <Anuska> :D
[14:26] <AR45> Can anyone assist me with fixing my lack of sound issue!?
[14:26] <EuroTrash> Yay, un-antialiased fonts in chrome are fixed again! I don't suppose anyone involved is in here, but thanks anyhow!
[14:26] <nabn_> AR45 inserting and removing a headphone does the trick for me
[14:26] <ilhami> nabn_, haha
[14:27] <nabn_> ilhami it does, actually.
[14:27] <ilhami> AR45, call Apple. :D
[14:28] <EuroTrash> Know what would be fun? Calling Apple with a banana phone!
[14:28] <ilhami> EuroTrash, :D
[14:29] <Z3> Hi, I read that there will not be an Ubuntu 15.04 normal release, and that Ubuntu will be a rolling release from that date. Is that correct?
[14:30] <hamza> Hi I have a problem
[14:30] <hamza> can anyone listen
[14:30] <ilhami> hamza just state your problem.
[14:30] <AR45> nabn_: Just tried. Didn't work.
[14:31] <OerHeks> Z3 no, where did you get that hoax from?
[14:31] <McFrish> Quick question: anyone know how to configure Apache authentication to automagically accept ssh login/passwords (i.e., without having to enter every uname/password into an .htaccess file or password database)
[14:31] <ilhami> bbl
[14:31] <OerHeks> Z3 never mind, don't want to know really :-D
[14:31] <derjur> i've created a script in init, that runs with service logstash script... how do i enable this to start at boot??
[14:31] <ilhami> bashrc
[14:32] <ilhami> bye :D
[14:32] <hamza> i have installed ubuntu on already windows 8 installed pc on a separate partition (not along side windows 8). Formatted that as ext4 with '\' as mounting point. But upon installing, when the pc restarted, it just boots to windows 8 instead of showing a menu or anything...
[14:32] <ilhami> install grub
[14:33] <Z3> OerHeks the links are in spanish
[14:33] <hamza> how?
[14:33] <somsip> Z3: http://is.gd/XkK5kr This one last time this was raised.
[14:33] <McFrish> hamza: have you tried accessing the BIOS as the computer starts up?
[14:33] <nabn_> hi. I got a new computer and want to clone my existing ubuntu installation to a new one. The hardware on the two computer is different, and both have ubuntu 14.04.1 installed.  After a bit of googling, i found more than a couple ways to do it.  I chose to go with the rsync option here=[http://eggsonbread.com/2010/01/28/move-ubuntu-to-another-computer-in-3-simple-steps/] , but got stuck on an rsync error that looks like a bug. Any tips/l
[14:33] <ilhami> hamza,  your Ubuntu install should have installed grub?
[14:33] <hamza> doesnt ubuntu installs grub by itself?
[14:34] <McFrish> hamza: windows 8 intentionally complicates things
[14:34] <Z3> somsip yes, I read just that
[14:34] <hamza> windows 8 is on c: drive the system just boots from that drive
[14:34] <ilhami> hamza, it should.
[14:34] <ilhami> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing check this guide
[14:35] <Z3> somsip but is strange I can find only links in spanish
[14:35] <Z3> somsip maybe is a hoax
[14:36] <hamza> wait... I chose the device for boot loader installation as f:\ drive (sda7)
[14:36] <hamza> is that what i did wrong?
[14:36] <somsip> Z3: " Ubuntu 15.04 will not be released. At least not as we know it. " Which is a bad google translate, with the relevant being "not as we know it" eg, it will be different. Nothing to see here. Move along please.
[14:37] <OerHeks> Z3 cannot find that info on the original source http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/interviews/386080/mark-shuttleworth-interview-taking-ubuntu-beyond-desktops
[14:37] <ilhami> hamza, you should have chosen sda
[14:38] <hamza> @ilhami the root drive 160GB (whole hdd) right?
[14:38] <UNIm95> Hi 2 all. Please help me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/515864/how-to-reinitialize-processor-for-sys-and-disable-integrated-graphics
[14:39] <ilhami> When using the "Something Else" option, you will be offered to choose the "Device for bootloader installation". Please select: * either the disk (eg /dev/sdX, not /dev/sdXY) on which the BIOS is setup to boot (recommended for normal use) * OR the partition (eg /dev/sdXY, not /dev/sdX) on which Ubuntu (/boot, else /) will be installed (only if you want to chainload it from another bootloader; if any doubt, do NOT choose this)
[14:39] <ilhami> hamza,
[14:39] <ilhami> so yes you should have chosen sda
[14:40] <hamza> now what can i do? re-run the setup again?
[14:40] <hamza> and install it with sda selected again?
[14:40] <Z3> oerheks somsip maybe maybe that info comes from this line from the original interview:
[14:40] <Z3> oerheks somsip Once we’ve converged those, there’s a question about whether the six-month release cycles make as much sense.
[14:40] <Z3> Read more: Mark Shuttleworth interview: Taking Ubuntu beyond desktops | Interviews | News | PC Pro http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/interviews/386080/mark-shuttleworth-interview-taking-ubuntu-beyond-desktops#ixzz3Feu9MFTs
[14:40] <grodius> hey does anyone know if you can mount an android in 14.10 just like a hard drive?
[14:41] <somsip> Z3: stop. It's off topic. It's wrong.
[14:41] <Z3> somsip ok, sorry
[14:41] <somsip> Z3: no prob. Just distracts from giving support, which is what this channel is for
[14:42] <AR45> add-apt-repository: command not found <-- what the heck
[14:43] <somsip> !find add-apt-repository | AR45 (not install by default on minimal install)
[14:43] <somsip> *installed
[14:45] <AR45> somsip: Thanks bud.
[14:48] <vinnix> guys, what is going on with libz on ubuntu? https://gist.github.com/vinnix/0568662d5baa46b6c899  this build is broken, do you guys have an idea why?
[14:50] <earlax> Goodmorning, I'm running 14.04 and I have three ethernet interfaces but they don't get the same names consistently across reboots (e.g., what was eth0 becomes eth2).   How should I set them to be consistent?
[14:51] <earlax> also - I saw that 70-persistent-net.rules is no longer written in 14.04 ... but i'm not sure what that implies here.
[14:54] <compdoc> earlax, 70-persistent-net.rules exists on my 14.04 servers
[14:54] <OerHeks> here too, on the desktop
[14:55] <earlax> were those upgrades or fresh 14.04 installs?
[14:55] <earlax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219332
[14:56] <compdoc> fresh installs - always
[14:56] <OerHeks> fresh, i think that forum answer is wrong, as i see /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules clearly
[14:58] <earlax> ok, thanks.  I'll look more and come back (:
[14:58] <jhutchins> Turingi: Did you ever figure out that memory issue?
[14:59] <OerHeks> jhutchins, yes he did!
[14:59] <freezer> is there a fix for the MBP SSD used in late2013 models?
[14:59] <OerHeks> jhutchins, somehow he went into the bios and now 8 gb is fine
[14:59] <freezer> it seems very slow with many IO
[15:00] <AR45> So my speaker makes when I hit the volume key but when I play videos or sound cloud no sound
[15:00] <freezer> turned NCQ off like recommended
[15:00] <AR45> Makes me think a codec is missing maybe?
[15:00] <AR45> I'm on minimal install
[15:00] <AR45> any help?
[15:01] <Demontager> Guys how may i bridge 2 interfaces if one of them used for hostapd ? Not in GUI but /etc/network/interfaces
[15:02] <Demontager> I got 3 ifaces total, 1 -wan, 2 - wlan, 3 - eth0
[15:02] <jhutchins> OerHeks: Video ram maybe/
[15:02] <jhutchins> ?
[15:03] <OerHeks> jhutchins, that does not explain it, as the onboard uses 512 mb max
[15:03] <jhutchins> Ah well, as long as he got it working.  I didn't see any evidence that there was a kernel/OS issue that could cause that.
[15:03] <OerHeks> jhutchins, i suspect not entering the bios after installing ram and just booting ubuntu
[15:04] <jhutchins> OerHeks: Yeah, could be.  Funny that lshw and such saw it though.
[15:07] <Malsasa> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with KDE 4.10. I can't change my keyboard layout. Specifically, I have added many layout such as Arabic, Japanese, Greek, Hebrew, etc. I have new layout indicator on the panel then. Then, when I switch, any text written will always be Latin US. No Arabic, no Kanji, no Greek. Is there any package I should install first? I installed KDE by kde-standard. Thank you.
[15:09] <sandblaster> I don't know why people have to use ubuntu when theres mac
[15:09] <freezer> so you can use Ubuntu ON your mac?
[15:10] <sandblaster> mac osx
[15:10] <sandblaster> well anythings better than windows
[15:10] <Siente> hello guys, please could you try to help me.. I have an issue with my ubuntu
[15:11] <Siente> I have installed ubuntu on another partition, but when I boot the ubuntu it's always disconnecting me from internet?
[15:11] <Siente> I don't have internet on my ubuntu any ideas why so?
[15:18] <Unknown0BC> Hello, what do you guys use to automatically arrange windows like tile them in Ubuntu ? I tried x-tile but its causing screen refresh problems, solved by a reboot :(
[15:19] <pbx> Unknown0BC, i use compiz keyboard controls
[15:19] <simone95> ciao
[15:19] <simone95> !list
[15:19] <Unknown0BC> pbx on Ubuntu 14 ?
[15:20] <pbx> Unknown0BC, 14.04, yes
[15:20] <Malsasa> Unknown0BC: tile windows? Super +W on my Ubuntu.
[15:20] <pbx> Malsasa, Unknown0BC is talking about persistent positioning
[15:21] <Malsasa> pbx: affirmative.
[15:21] <Unknown0BC> What do you mean by Super + W Malsasa ?
[15:21] <pbx> Unknown0BC, Compiz Config Settings Manager > Window Management > Grid
[15:21] <Malsasa> Unknown0BC: tile windows.
[15:22]  * Malsasa sorry for my english
[15:22] <pbx> Unknown0BC, super == windows key == apple key
[15:22] <pbx> Unknown0BC,  i did have to install one or two additional compiz packages. sorry i don't have that detail in my notes though
[15:22] <Unknown0BC> oh that is not exactly what I had in mind but cool to see what that does Malsasa :)
[15:24] <Unknown0BC> I see compiz is installed on my system already..
[15:26] <sandblaster> i used to have an ubuntu pc when I didn't have money to buy a mac :D
[15:27] <bynarie> mac=garbage..ubuntu=king
[15:27] <derjur> that looks like an "opinion"
[15:27] <sandblaster> I'd prefer to go with freebsd if I had to switch from mac
[15:27] <bynarie> yes.. its my opinion
[15:27] <derjur> :)
[15:28] <bynarie> do you agree?
[15:28] <bynarie> =]
[15:28] <derjur> as i type into my MBP ssh'd into an ubuntu box, nope.
[15:28] <awatt> hi
[15:28] <bynarie> bla!
[15:28] <sandblaster> i just think mac is more secure than linux
[15:28] <OerHeks> !ot | keep this channel free for support, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, thanks
[15:28] <sandblaster> at least ubuntu
[15:29] <sandblaster> ok
[15:29] <sandblaster> :D
[15:30] <Malsasa> Unknown0BC: I am sorry.
[15:31] <bynarie> im running a toshiba satellite l75d-a7288 with ubuntu 64bit 14, it comes with amd radeon hd 8550G, and i cant get the correct driver for it. Anyone have a clue as to which driver to use???
[15:31] <awatt> any one can help me with this-->http://pastebin.com/ZB0s90em
[15:31] <Covername> question. how do i CD into a .directory
[15:32] <Covername> example  /home/.steam/
[15:32] <nabn_> what's the best way to clone an ubuntu installation? has anyone done it previously? have to setup a new laptop exactly as an existing installation
[15:32] <zorgborg> hey, anyone know how to set desktop wallpapers to cycle through select photos?
[15:32] <genii> Covername: The same as any other one
[15:32] <Covername> it says directory does not exist
[15:32] <OerHeks> Covername, the . means hidden, hit ctrl + h to toggle view
[15:32] <zorgborg> nabn_: could use clonezilla?
[15:32] <OerHeks> !clone
[15:32] <bynarie> Covername, are you using the FULL path ?
[15:33] <Covername> yes
[15:33] <awatt> my installation is broken
[15:33] <bynarie> what does it say? path not found or something similar?
[15:34] <Covername> yes.
[15:34] <awatt> dpkg --configure -a fails so do apt-get install -f
[15:35] <awatt> http://pastebin.com/ZB0s90em
[15:35] <OerHeks> awatt, on what ubuntu? 13.10 ?
[15:35] <bynarie> Covername, i dont know... cd is the only command i know for change dir.. the only other thing to check would be permissions
[15:36] <awatt> OerHeks: linux mint
[15:36] <Unknown0BC> Time to do some cooking.
[15:36] <zteam> Hi all!
[15:36] <Unknown0BC> \0
[15:36] <ikonia> awatt: linux mint is supported on irc.spotchat.net - not freenode
[15:36] <ikonia> !mint | awatt
[15:36] <OerHeks> awatt, oh, mint is not supported, and if you do use 13.10, the repos are dead
[15:36] <bynarie> awatt, i would suggest going to linuxmint irc chan
[15:37] <awatt> bynarie: i know but i cant install any irc client
[15:37] <ikonia> you can
[15:37] <ikonia> you are using an irc client now
[15:37] <zteam> I'm trying to get a old wine game to running but it complains about the resolution (xrandr mode 640 x 480 not available
[15:37] <ikonia> so use this client to join the mint channel
[15:37] <ikonia> on spotchat.org
[15:37] <awatt> ikonia: i am using webchat in browser
[15:37] <bynarie> awatt, its safe to probably say tho that most things in linux mint and ubuntu are same/similiar
[15:37] <theadmin> awatt: kiwiirc
[15:38] <ikonia> awatt: spotchat has web access
[15:38] <zteam> running just xrandr from a terminal I can see the mode is there
[15:38] <theadmin> bynarie: It's not, really. They have their own software management system, they have their own desktop... that's change enough
[15:39] <bynarie> theadmin, yes i am aware. but im speaking on terms of the OS itself. I have used both and i have yet to find any real difference
[15:39] <zteam> xrandr -s 640x480 however does fail with Size 640x480 not found in available modes
[15:39] <hanfucius> Hello
[15:39] <bynarie> hola
[15:39] <awatt> ikonia: what is the channel name?
[15:39] <bynarie> linuxmint-suppor
[15:39] <ikonia> #linuxmint-help
[15:39] <bynarie> support
[15:40] <hanfucius> xubuntu
[15:40] <ikonia> no, it's help, not support
[15:40] <hanfucius> xixi
[15:40] <bynarie> sorry wrong chan
[15:40] <zteam> any advice guys?
[15:40] <bynarie> zteam, can you try using your normal resolution?
[15:41] <freezer> anyone with a MBP 11,3 here?
[15:41] <zteam> bynarie, switching my resolution with xrandr works fine with other resolutions if thats what you mean
[15:41] <LucidGuy> creating an lvm snapshot.  The Data% column, what does that represent exactly?
[15:42] <freezer> seems like i need to use the NVIDIA card in Ubuntu, as the intel one does not support the external display outputs (hardwired to the NVIDIA card)
[15:42] <freezer> but just scrolling seems to consume like 10W
[15:42] <freezer> any way to make the NVIDIA card save more power?
[15:42] <jmartinez> hi there
[15:42] <mnms_> Guys Ive configured vsftpd and smth is not right. When I uncomment guest_enable (cause I have virtual users) I get Fatal error: gnutls_record_recv: An unexpected TLS packet was received
[15:42] <jmartinez> how could I rollback to php5 5.4.30 if I am in php5-5.4.33 with APT?
[15:43] <mnms_> someone experience similiar problem ?
[15:43] <nabn_> zorgbort: dunno. i'll look it up. have you tried it?
[15:43] <ManicPanic> hello, can i reinstall a broken ubuntu on a dual boot system with Windows ?
[15:43] <Turingi> jhutchins: apparently it can show up after a hard reboot after an OS crash, it could be related to firefox and flash. firefox also tends to hang the OS when opening a larger image file (something like 5K x 5K pixels)
[15:44] <theadmin> ManicPanic: Sure.
[15:44] <ManicPanic> theadmin: wont that damage windows in any way ?
[15:44] <theadmin> ManicPanic: Not unless you damage it.
[15:44] <Turingi> jhutchins: which is why I was asking if there were recent reports of Adobe Flash in Firefox crashing after the last few updates
[15:45] <ManicPanic> theadmin: will only the old Ubuntu partition be effected by the reinstall?
[15:45] <bynarie> ManicPanic, no, not if you install to the correct partition.. and if your windows install doesnt show up on the bootloader, boot into linux and run sudo-update-grub
[15:45] <bynarie> ManicPanic, YES
[15:45] <theadmin> ManicPanic: That depends on where you install.
[15:45] <zteam> freezer, it should be possible to adjust the voltage with NiBiToR at least on older graphicscards, but I really don't recommend it
[15:45] <Turingi> jhutchins: in that case, it's a system hang with even the sound stopping (goes in a short loop)
[15:46] <freezer> zteam, it seems to clock down the GPU/MEM already
[15:46] <freezer> GPU running at 135MHz in idle
[15:46] <zteam> ManicPanic, yes you can
[15:46] <freezer> but scrolling seems to already push it higher than that
[15:46] <bynarie> ManicPanic, what is wrong with your linux install??
[15:46] <Turingi> jhutchins: I can sort of reproduce it with firefox opening a couple of tabs with youtube videos and a CPU-intensive app
[15:46] <freezer> probably because the Retina has such an insane amount of pixels
[15:47] <ManicPanic> bynarie: ok that makes sense
[15:47] <freezer> maybe i should try a different desktop than Unity?
[15:47] <p34k> how do i run the tor browser in ubuntu?
[15:47] <ManicPanic> bynarie: i have lots of broken packages
[15:47] <theadmin> p34k: Download it, extract the archive and run?
[15:47] <p34k> it does only give me a readme
[15:47] <zteam> freezer, if overclocking is what you are after then that's available in the official Nvidia driver
[15:47] <Turingi> jhutchins: firefox freezing the OS was actually an issue even before I changed the mobo/CPU/RAM
[15:47] <freezer> zteam, no
[15:48] <freezer> i want it to consume less power
[15:48] <bynarie> ManicPanic, yes... and when you are installing ubuntu, when you get to the partition editor, most likely it will be marked as an EXT partiton(ext2/ext3/ext4). Windows uses ntfs most likely
[15:48] <Turingi> jhutchins: firefox opening very large images, though, not flash applets
[15:48] <freezer> i don't care how low it clocks
[15:48] <bynarie> so reinstall where you already have an ext4 partition(or ext2/ext3)
[15:49] <ManicPanic> bynarie: thats good to know that it will be ok thanks
[15:49] <freezer> will install the GNOME desktop and see if that steals less power
[15:50] <zteam> freezer, okey, I was only half-right in that aspect
[15:50] <bynarie> ManicPanic, no problem. Remember that if when you boot up and your operating system list pops up for which one to boot too, and windows isnt on the list, go in linux and run sudo update-grub. It will find all of your boot images and put them in the menu
[15:50] <bynarie> and then reboot
[15:51] <ManicPanic> bynarie: nice, i will do that
[15:51] <zteam> freezer, however there is a setting in Nvidia-settings that let's the card change the clock dynamically, try to disable that one
[15:52] <bynarie> when you get a chance to do it let us know how it went/if you need help
[15:52] <zteam> freezer, if you really wanna overclock you Nvidia card you can install nvclock
[15:52] <freezer> zteam, i can only see 'adapted', performance' and auto
[15:52] <freezer> maybe that's hidden somewhere
[15:52] <sant527> i wanted to install ubuntu 14.01 lts from usb pendrive. So i wrote the iso using "dd bs=4M if=ubuntu_14.04_lts_amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb". I am able to boot on one pc, while on another pc with "phoneix awardbios" bios its not booting. it shows "verifying dmi pool data" and nothing happens
[15:53] <freezer> zteam, not overclock, but rather lock it to the lowest setting of 135MHz core clock
[15:53] <ManicPanic> bynarie: yeah i will thanks
[15:53] <bynarie> ok no problem
[15:53] <bynarie> sant527, maybe the bios is UEFI?
[15:54] <freezer> aaargh, and the SSD is freakin slow writing a lot of data
[15:55] <zteam> freezer, okey, so you want to underclock your card, that can be done with nvclock as well, I'm not sure you can lock it throught
[15:55] <imbezol> how do i get opengl support with my ati card? i have the fglrx package installed but desktop effects fail to activate saying i have no opengl
[15:56] <bynarie> imbezol, im in the same boat as you, only i cant get the proper drivers.. what video card is it?
[15:56] <zteam> freezer, but checkout nvclock, that's the only utility I know about to fiddle with clock frequency
[15:57] <imbezol> fglrxinfo yields: display: :0  screen: 0, OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series, OpenGL version string: 4.3.12798 Compatibility Profile Context 13.25.18
[15:57] <freezer> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60731
[15:57] <freezer> there is a bug still open since ages for the SSD issue  :(
[15:57] <freezer> seems to be partially fixed
[15:58] <imbezol> bynarie: mine's an R9 270x
[15:58] <freezer> zteam, yes thanks, even though the GTX 750 is quite new
[15:58] <freezer> will check it out
[15:58] <bynarie> imbezol, oh ok.. i got a crappy integrated card. radeon hd 8550g
[15:58] <bynarie> laptop
[15:59] <imbezol> ah. i have the fglrx, fglrx-dev, and fglrx-amdcccle packages installed
[15:59] <imbezol> seems like it should work, but desktop effects say no opengl present
[15:59] <zteam> freezer, yes, I think nvclock is pretty old thought, but I don't think that should be a problem
[16:00] <zteam> I still need some help with xrandr guys :-)
[16:01] <somsip> !info bash
[16:01] <cbdj> Looking for a bit of help with accessing an ntfs drive via linux
[16:02] <cbdj> I've attempted  using the ntfs 3g
[16:02] <cbdj> no luck.
[16:03] <bynarie> is there anyway in xfce, to get the menu button to display just a list of apps rather than to categorize them(ie. developement, internet)?
[16:04] <theadmin> bynarie: Not that I know of.
[16:04] <pinumbernumber> When I use the "show desktop" feature in Unity, the windows disappear but the mouse can still interact with them (resize handles and such appear, and indeed you can resize the invisible windows)
[16:04] <bynarie> ok thanks
[16:05] <theadmin> pinumbernumber: Sounds like a bug! Do "ubuntu-bug unity" from a terminal and tell the devs about it
[16:05] <pinumbernumber> theadmin: okay, thanks
[16:05] <stevvo> does ubuntu provide a full iso image for desktops without an internet connection?
[16:05] <theadmin> stevvo: Yes, the default image does not require a connection to install.
[16:05] <bynarie> yes stewo
[16:05] <zteam> cbdj, have u tried running sudo mount /dev/device /media/ntfsfolder and see what it says
[16:06] <stevvo> thanks theadmin
[16:07] <zteam> cbdj,  you will need to create the ntfsfolder with mkdir first eg sudo mkdir /media/ntfs
[16:08] <pinumbernumber> theadmin: That collected info and now I'm on a dialogue with a Send button, but I had no opportunity to enter a description of the issue
[16:08] <imbezol> bynarie: i just figured out my issue.. i deleted .kde/share/config/kwinrc and .kde4/share/config/kwinrc and logged out and back in
[16:08] <imbezol> bynarie: all my opengl stuff works now
[16:08] <at_work> How do I prevent the installer from probing the Gateway issued by the DHCP server?
[16:08] <zteam> cbdj, and you need to change dev/device  to your device name
[16:08] <cbdj> thanks z.
[16:08] <theadmin> pinumbernumber: Don't worry, it will open a browser window that will ask you for extra information (and contact info) after you click "Send"
[16:08] <bynarie> imbezol, thank you for the tip
[16:08] <zteam> cbdj, no problem
[16:09] <zteam> cbdj, no problem :-)
[16:10] <at_work> I'm PXE booting on the same DHCP server, but I'm just in a lock down network without an egress route.
[16:13] <imbezol> at_work: does it affect your ability to install? won't it just fail to communicate?
[16:14] <Baako> hello guys i have ubuntu as a dual boot on my pc
[16:14] <at_work> imbezol, I can not install.  I'm installing off the network and host is rejecting the DHCP offer after testing it.
[16:14] <Baako> how do i uninstall it please?
[16:14] <asd__> Baako, did you googled formating disk?
[16:14] <theadmin> Baako: You can't just "uninstall" an OS, you have to erase the partition from Windows (or whatever your other OS is) and then fix the bootloader
[16:15] <at_work> Manual configuration is not an option
[16:15] <imbezol> at_work: if you can't install by any other method.. like usb key or something.. the maybe use the second nic of a working machine.. and setup a dhcp that gives it usable info?
[16:17] <at_work> The dhcp server is issuing valid info.  The installer is not able to phone home and doesn't continue.  (This is a netinstall, unattended eventually.)
[16:17] <nrdb> I need some help getting a printer/scanner I have a Epson CX5500 .... lsusb does show the printer ... sane-find-scanner show nothing.. can anyone help
[16:18] <nrdb> it is a headless server
[16:19] <at_work> nrdb, yes, well I'm connected to it over IPKVM and IPMI
[16:19] <zteam> cbdj, did you got acess to your drive yet
[16:19] <imbezol> at_work: what kind of phone home do you think it's doing? doesn't it just try to connect to the package mirror?
[16:20] <at_work> I'm assuming that is what it is doing, but it can't.  But I have a mirror on the none routed network.
[16:20] <nrdb> at_work, I have direct connection to the server
[16:20] <at_work> The preseed file is configured to use the local mirror
[16:24] <rannger> hello,all
[16:25] <awatt> how can i convert dvd-iso-image to usb ?
[16:25] <awatt> i need to install distro from usb
[16:26] <theadmin> awatt: What distro?
[16:26] <awatt> theadmin: linuxmint , i downloaded the image but my dvd-rom doesnt work
[16:27] <theadmin> awatt: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb, ASSUMING you have only one storage device plugged in and only one hard drive.
[16:27] <theadmin> awatt: If there's more, you may need to replace "sdb" with "sdc" and so on.
[16:27] <awatt> theadmin: thank you so much
[16:27] <p34k> my tor browser doesnt run when i start the "start tor browser" link
[16:28] <p34k> all i get is some kind of error readme
[16:28] <p34k> what should i do?
[16:42] <ch0ke> hi
[16:42] <daftykins> hello
[16:43] <reisio> ohio
[16:45] <TMan459> Anyone use minidlna? I'd like to set the "root_container" options to Music/Artist, but don't know the ObjectID!
[16:46] <TMan459> I once upon a time had a list. It's out there somewhere. I've been searching for hours now!
[16:47] <at_work> okay, moving along, how do I enable di_debug logging at install time?
[16:49] <grey__> hi guys im new to the IRC channels system but can someone help me with my issue, i have a hybrid graphics set in my laptop and it gets overheating because of my seconde graphic card AMD HD7670
[16:50] <grey__> thanks and sorry for my bad english :)
[16:50] <daftykins> grey__: have you installed an AMD driver?
[16:51] <grey__> non im still using the open source one given by default and sorry i didnt precise but im using ubuntu 14.04
[16:51] <stevvo22> Hi ubunt. Could you help me? I need a complete iso image that does not need a network to set up
[16:51] <AR45> daftykins: Hey I have no sound from youtube or soundcloud but when I hit the volume rocker I hear the sound it makes.
[16:51] <daftykins> AR45: still don't use desktop :)
[16:51] <stevvo22> ??
[16:52] <daftykins> grey__: yeah check out 'additional drivers' then to see if you can get a better fglrx driver installed
[16:52] <Baako> how do i identify  ubuntu partition on a dual boot pc(windows)
[16:52] <daftykins> grey__: there might be a quirk to your specific model if it's hybrid graphics though, so you might want to look it up online quickly to see if anyone has done it before
[16:52] <daftykins> Baako: what do you want to do?
[16:53] <daftykins> stevvo22: why?
[16:53] <Baako> delete ubuntu partition as i want to use a vm instead of dual boot
[16:53] <grey__> i was going to install them but then i ve seen alot of people saying that it make ubuntu crush or something (14.04) :/ ... but im gonna try it and then come and tell you the results thanks dafty :)
[16:53] <daftykins> Baako: so you want to delete them from within Windows?
[16:53] <Baako> yes daftykinds
[16:54] <daftykins> Baako: they're pretty obvious, they come up in Disk Management as 'unknown'
[16:54] <stevvo22> I need it for my pc that has no network connection
[16:54] <tharkun> !download
[16:54] <Baako> daftykins it aint
[16:54] <daftykins> Baako: i'm going to need a better response than that. can you upload a screenshot of disk management?
[16:55] <stevvo22> daftykins: for my older pc. So is there an iso image that needs no network connection
[16:55] <daftykins> stevvo22: pretty sure desktop doesn't need connectivity to install
[16:55] <daftykins> stevvo22: how old are we talking? specifications wise
[16:55] <stevvo22> Intel Pentium, XP 2006
[16:55] <agileadam> I’m trying to use apt-get to install a new php5 library (php5-ldap). It’s saying that “The following packages will be upgraded” and that includes php5-common. Does this mean it would upgrade from, say php5.3 to php5.4, or will it not affect the version of PHP. I read somewhere that apt-get upgrade will only apply security updates.
[16:55] <daftykins> stevvo22: that's not enough info
[16:56] <stevvo22> 160GB disk space, 3gb ram and amd 64
[16:56] <hans_> hoi
[16:56] <daftykins> stevvo22: just grab the 64-bit desktop ISO though, depending on what graphics is in there.
[16:56] <hans_> i have a question
[16:57] <capsulecorp> hi
[16:57] <bynarie> hans_, then ask
[16:57] <hans_> where can i find my mount nasdrive in the dir
[16:57] <daftykins> agileadam: to confirm, check what version is installed with "dpkg -l | grep php5" then "apt-cache policy php5-common" or "apt-cache showpkg php5-common"
[16:57] <stevvo22> daftykins: thanks. More cooperative than debian!
[16:57] <capsulecorp> how can i change rules on file ??
[16:57] <capsulecorp> i can't open it ..
[16:57] <agileadam> daftykins: doing that now, thanks!
[16:57] <capsulecorp> with this session
[16:58] <daftykins> capsulecorp: explain the situation better on one line please.
[16:58] <agileadam> daftykins: Installed: 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4, Candidate: 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.14
[16:59] <capsulecorp> thx u daftykins , i make tuto for my father , for if he need to come here for one question , i was just check if u are here :D , daftykins
[16:59] <daftykins> agileadam: ok, you had already run "sudo apt-get update" to be sure that the 'available' check is accurate, yeah?
[16:59] <capsulecorp> bye bye
[17:00] <agileadam> daftykins: I had run “sudo apt-get install php5-ldap” and it warned me about the upgrades, so I hit “n” to get out of it.
[17:01] <daftykins> agileadam: ok, so you'd run update already? i guess 3.4 to 3.14 is a tiny version bump.
[17:02] <agileadam> daftykins: I’m assuming by running apt-get install, and having it tell me there are upgrades needed to associated packages, it did an update check… I can run sudo apt-get update and back out, right?
[17:02] <agileadam> so that it doesn’t actually execute
[17:02] <agileadam> sorry, my bad, no need to “back out"
[17:02] <agileadam> ;)
[17:03] <agileadam> confirmed:  Installed: 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4, Candidate: 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.14 - sounds pretty safe.
[17:03] <agileadam> daftykins: thanks so much for the help!
[17:03] <daftykins> agileadam: all update does is update package lists, it doesn't actually do the update :)
[17:03] <daftykins> no problem
[17:03] <agileadam> yeah :) now I know. hehe.
[17:03] <agileadam> cheers!
[17:04] <daftykins> < hans_> where can i find my mount nasdrive in the dir <--- this doesn't make sense?
[17:04] <daftykins> hans_: what are you trying to achieve? do you perhaps speak another language we can direct you to a better channel for?
[17:06] <jamil_1> hi all, I just upgraded from kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04. Now none of my password protected basket notes are opening. I get error: "GPGME: Decryption failed"
[17:09] <Jack64> hey guys, need some help installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 14.04 to run CUDA programs on my 650M. I googled for it but couldn't find a working tutorial. Anyone got any suggestions?
[17:09] <daftykins> Jack64: sounds like an optimus laptop?
[17:10] <Jack64> daftykins: i think so
[17:10] <johtso> I'm struggling getting postgres to install properly, I'm tearing my hair out and would be really grateful for any help! I've uninstalled an older version (9.1), and at some point deleted the postgres init.d file in order to try and fix a problem.. but now no amounts of reinstallation of postgres 9.3 will recreate the service
[17:10] <RDX400> hi, i removed all of my linux kernels, so my os dosen't start anymore. how can i reconfigure a kernel?
[17:10] <johtso> shouldn't installation of the postgres package cause the init.d file to be created and registered?
[17:10] <johtso> Is there something I need to "clean" so that it knows to create it again?
[17:11] <daftykins> RDX400: boot live media, chroot and install a kernel
[17:12] <Rakon> If I use OpenDNS, do I have to install dnscrypt after it to increase security or does OpenDNS already have it built-in?
[17:12] <daftykins> Jack64: lets confirm first, please install pastebinit with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" followed by "lspci | pastebinit" then share the link here
[17:12] <geirha> johtso: config files are left alone if the package has been configured before. You can purge the package to both remove the package and its configuration
[17:13] <johtso> ah, so I need to do a apt-get remove --purge postgres*
[17:13] <johtso> I think I only purged the postgres package
[17:14] <Jack64> ha didn't know pastebinit existed, nice :)
[17:14] <johtso> geirha: it's complaining that it can't find /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main because i've already deleted it :?
[17:15] <Jack64> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8527963/
[17:15] <johtso> and erroring out
[17:15] <Jack64> daftykins: lspci | grep NV | pastebinit
[17:15] <geirha> johtso: mh, yeah, dpkg is picky about that. It doesn't like anyone to meddle with files it expected to be there
[17:16] <daftykins> Jack64: no i just want to see "lspci | pastebinit" since that's what i asked for :)
[17:16] <Jack64> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8527973/
[17:16] <grazfather> hey guys, I am apt-getting something (using ansible) and it's failing because it's trying to downloada prereq over http, but the host is ftp.uk.debian.org and doesn't accept http. Is there a way to force ftp?
[17:16] <daftykins> grazfather: this isn't debian support.
[17:17] <awatt> hi how do i install packages listed in a file
[17:17] <grazfather> daftykins: It's a ubuntu machine...
[17:18] <daftykins> Jack64: oooook there we go so on line 3 you've got the intel on-die graphics, then the nvidia so it's an optimus setup. you're going to need to look into nvidia-prime installation guides, or bumblebee. try prime first
[17:18] <somsip> grazfather: why is the repo at debian.org?
[17:18] <daftykins> ^
[17:18] <johtso> geirha: just created that directory and now it's happy :)
[17:19] <Jack64> daftykins: i got bumblebee installed. optirun -c yuv glxspheres64 outputs 180fps while glxspheres64 outputs 60fps proving the GPU is working
[17:19] <awatt> any one?
[17:19] <grazfather> idk
[17:19] <geirha> johtso: try:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure postgresql-common
[17:19] <daftykins> Jack64: ok, but nvidia-prime is the new way to do things as of 14.04, so CUDA support may hinge on that decision
[17:19] <grazfather> I'm using ansible. Maybe something to do with ansible
[17:19] <somsip> grazfather: are you trying to get a dpkg to manually install?
[17:19] <somsip> grazfather: no it's not
[17:20] <Jack64> daftykins: so install prime?
[17:20] <daftykins> Jack64: well i can't confirm 100% that CUDA will work better either way, so it's what i'd research online first :)
[17:20] <somsip> grazfather: paste the extract of the recipe on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:21] <grazfather> somsip: and how would I do that? It's less straight forward than I'd like. I'm using ansible and supplying a specific deb file. Can I extract the recipe from that file?
[17:21] <Jack64> daftykins: I just want it to work with hashcat, I've done it before but can't remember the process..
[17:22] <awatt> hi i have a file
[17:22] <daftykins> Jack64: sounds like a miner?
[17:22] <somsip> grazfather: what is the content of the ansible playbook/role/main.yml that is not working?
[17:22] <Jack64> daftykins: hash cracker
[17:22] <awatt> i want to install packages listed from a file , how can i do that?
[17:23] <Jack64> daftykins: pentesting tool
[17:23] <daftykins> ok
[17:23] <AR45> awatt: What do you mean?
[17:23] <Jack64> daftykins: trying prime install now
[17:23] <numbfall> hi all
[17:24] <daftykins> Jack64: you know you have to remove all traces of bumblebee first yes?
[17:24] <daftykins> awatt: did you create the file with dpkg --set-selections ?
[17:24] <numbfall> guys! after last kernel update i have lost my grub menu on boot
[17:24] <deceptor> hi
[17:24] <daftykins> numbfall: hold left shift at boot time to see if it displays. maybe you just lost the display timeout value if you're used to seeing it
[17:24] <numbfall> i am quick booting into ubuntu.. cannot boot into windows
[17:24] <awatt> daftykins, dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}'
[17:24] <numbfall> nothing
[17:24] <numbfall> i tried left shift. cannot enter the bios
[17:25] <daftykins> awatt: have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/293030/install-remove-list-of-packages-from-command-line-with-apt-get
[17:25] <daftykins> numbfall: left shift isn't about entering the BIOS.
[17:25] <numbfall> when i restart my laptop i just see random color lines on the screen, few seconds later im inside lightdm
[17:25] <awatt> daftykins, thanks
[17:26] <numbfall> i know i dont get the menu after left shift. tried several times
[17:26] <Jack64> Jack64: following this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/412452/getting-hybrid-graphics-to-work-nvidia-prime-gt650m
[17:26] <johtso> geirha: urgh, now postgres is giving me this unhelpful error.. https://gist.github.com/johtso/7eff306c5c00daf8aa4c
[17:26] <Jack64> daftykins: following this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/412452/getting-hybrid-graphics-to-work-nvidia-prime-gt650m
[17:26] <grazfather> somsip: http://pastebin.com/nKXRdgP0
[17:27] <grazfather> It hangs on 'Install RabbitMQ' and then eventually fails with the 404 error trying to access http://ftp.uk.debian.org
[17:27] <loki__> is there way to lock keyboard? for example i want make some clean up of keyboard.
[17:28] <numbfall> daftykins: any ideas?
[17:28] <eeee> loki__: you can use xinput
[17:28] <Wryness> I would like to change permissions in a folder via sudo chown -R username:username /folder/folder, but I always get "Operation not permitted". what can I do?
[17:28] <somsip> grazfather: and output of ansible --version? Paste here
[17:28] <daftykins> numbfall: USB keyboard? might be configured incorrectly in BIOS to allow the left shift to actually be registering
[17:29] <geirha> johtso: Hm, anything in the log-file mentioned?
[17:29] <numbfall> ok. let me try that.. i'll be back
[17:29] <grazfather> ansible 1.7.2 somsip
[17:29] <geirha> johtso: /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.3-main.log
[17:30] <Jake> Is there a way to see what process is using a lot of disk transfer speed? (14.04)
[17:30] <somsip> grazfather: does the deb file copy to the remote okay?
[17:30] <geirha> Jake: iotop
[17:31] <Jake> thank you geirha
[17:31] <grazfather> somsip: It appears to. It fails on download a prereq (libltdl). I assume it would have failed much sooner if the deb didn't sync properly
[17:32] <somsip> grazfather: so it's trying to install a dependency and failing on that, not on the rabbitmq deb?
[17:32] <grazfather> Correct
[17:32] <grazfather> I will try increasing ansible's verbosity
[17:32] <numbfall> daftykins: :) i shut down my laptop and started again.. then i can see my windows boot loader and grub.. i think i installed a kernel reload thingy thats whats causing quick grubless restarts
[17:33] <somsip> grazfather: check /etc/apt/sources.list to see why there is a debian ftp site on there. Or maybe /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ in case there is a mad PPA in there
[17:33] <daftykins> numbfall: 'kernel reload thingy' ?
[17:34] <grazfather> somsip will do ty
[17:35] <kevindf> What would be the best way keeping a ubuntu server backuped?
[17:35] <numbfall> draftkins: i had a few kernel panics few days ago. i think set messed something up to get the crash dumps
[17:35] <somsip> !backup | kevindf
[17:35] <kevindf> thx
[17:35] <numbfall> draftkins: i really have no idea what i am doing..
[17:36] <numbfall> draftkins: anyways thanks a lot for the help.. i'm gonna go into windows now.
[17:37] <eeee> draftkins ?
[17:37] <bynarie> lol.. draftkins
[17:37] <daftykins> :(
[17:37] <numbfall> damn
[17:37] <numbfall> guys! its 2 am here
[17:37] <daftykins> must be winter closing in, i'm feeling that drafty
[17:37] <bynarie> haha
[17:38] <bynarie> numbfall, type a couple letters of the irc name and press tab, it will auto complete it
[17:38] <grazfather> somsip ugh this machine isn't even ubuntu :( it's debian. But I will try changing out the sources
[17:38] <bynarie> welp nevermind. too latew
[17:38] <bynarie> ubuntu is based on debian, grazfather
[17:39] <grazfather> bynarie: I know, but I mean I shouldn't be asking in this channel
[17:39] <bynarie> oh ok
[17:39] <grazfather> I tried switching the source from http to ftp
[17:40] <bynarie> oh ok
[17:41] <daftykins> grazfather: damn it i said that was why :P
[17:42] <CryptoCracker> hey wanna join me at ##worldhacker
[17:42] <daftykins> grazfather: ftp.debian is just the hostname, it doesn't influence the protocol
[17:42] <Pici> CryptoCracker: Please don't advertise in this channel.
[17:42] <CryptoCracker> okay
[17:42] <eeee> CryptoCracker: go to ##c
[17:43] <blz> Is there a program of some sort that can track power consumption of a headless server?
[17:43] <CryptoCracker> they welcome me there ?
[17:43] <CryptoCracker> i join than
[17:43] <eeee> yes
[17:44] <grazfather> daftykins: Yes I know, but http://ftp... is down, but i can ping the host
[17:44] <CryptoCracker> i can't eeee
[17:44] <bynarie> grazfather, what art tho trying to accomplish?
[17:44] <somsip> grazfather: the site is there, but it is not an ubuntu repo. Why do you have a debian repo and what file was it in?
[17:44] <CryptoCracker> my nick keep on be frozen in freenode
[17:44] <kubunto> how can i figure out what kernel i am runing
[17:45] <CryptoCracker> uname -a
[17:45] <daftykins> kubunto: uname -r
[17:45] <somsip> kubunto: uname -r
[17:45] <reisio> kubunto: why does it matter?
[17:45] <bynarie> uname-a
[17:45] <kubunto> reisio: i need to remove kernels for space
[17:45] <reisio> kubunto: ah :)
[17:45] <reisio> kubunto: ls -1rt will sort them by age
[17:45] <daftykins> kubunto: start with the oldest and move forwards, leaving two for safety
[17:45] <kubunto> ok
[17:46] <reisio> or ls -1t for oldest last instead of first
[17:47] <grazfather> binaryhat somsip Like I said, I made a mistake, this is a debian machine. IT was in /etc/apt/sources.list, and I am trying to provision a vagrant machine to install a specific (supplied) version of rabbitmq
[17:47] <somsip> grazfather: then get thee to #debian
[17:49] <AR45> #join bitcoin
[17:50] <Fuchs> AR45: try /join #bitcoin
[17:51] <grazfather> somsip: Yup I am in there. Thanks a lot for the help
[17:59] <nullsign> anyone ever seen this? sysctl: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.ip_nonlocal_bind'
[17:59] <nullsign> on a new vm thru a provider.. wonder how crappy their shit is.
[17:59] <numbfall> daftykins: its kexec, directly boot into a new kernel
[18:00] <daftykins> nullsign: don't use that language in here please
[18:00] <numbfall> daftykins: i set it up some time ago and forgot about it.
[18:01] <nullsign> "i'm wondering how turdrific their feces is?"
[18:03] <numbfall> btw samsung series NP900X3C has kernel panic issues. i cannot figure out whats causing them
[18:04] <daftykins> numbfall: on the latest EFI version?
[18:05] <numbfall> daftykins: not sure. its sep. 2012 with win 7
[18:05] <daftykins> numbfall: yeah so check the website vs. the EFI version you have
[18:16] <numbfall> daftykins: just checked. i am not using EFI boot.
[18:17] <daftykins> numbfall: that's nothing to do with it, the samsung 9 series have an EFI rather than a BIOS - so "update the EFI/BIOS" :)
[18:18] <numbfall> daftykins: hmm. yeah thats the correct solution however there are no updates available for my particular device. this was model 0 i got off of amazon
[18:18] <daftykins> numbfall: yeah checking was what i was asking to do, lol
[18:18] <daftykins> you just took a round about way to get there :)
[18:26] <dstarh> why do some apt-get install commands ask you if you want to install while others just install without asking?
[18:27] <OerHeks> dstarh, give us an example?
[18:27] <OerHeks> dstarh, probably because of the dependencies
[18:28] <dstarh> OerHeks: for example sudo apt-get install wget ca-certificates   no prompt.  sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.3 asks
[18:28] <dstarh> s/asks/prompts
[18:28] <dstarh> i was guessing there was a size threshold
[18:30] <reisio> it probably asks because it draws in deps
[18:30] <reisio> and it wants you to be okay with that
[18:30] <reisio> I doubt wget and ca-certs have deps
[18:31] <dstarh> ok thanks
[18:31] <dstarh> was just curious what the difference was
[18:32] <reisio> 's'my guess
[18:35] <TBrain64> hi guys
[18:35] <lumia900> hi
[18:36] <lumia900> i have some  error that i was unable to get installe any applications
[18:36] <lumia900> http://www.picpaste.com/ubuntu-gOtqGL17.jpg
[18:38] <OerHeks> lumia900, does your server have a DE?
[18:39] <icvotria> I'm having problems getting Flash and Java to run. They both used to work fine, but Java hasn't worked for a couple of weeks and Flash Player stopped working after my last upgrade. I'm a super-noob, apologies in advance :)
[18:40] <OerHeks> icvotria, in what browser?
[18:40] <icvotria> Chromium
[18:41] <xangua> icvotria: chromium no longer supports netscape plugins so No java and for flash install pepperflashplugin-nonfree package
[18:41] <OerHeks> chromium does not support NPAPI ( plugins from version 34)  so use pepper flash, see http://askubuntu.com/a/449266
[18:42] <icvotria> ah, thanks.
[18:42] <OerHeks> same for java
[18:43] <abbadzesi123> hello
[18:45] <gnat_x> hi gang. i'm trying to install a version 12.04 lts server as a virtual machine on a host that doesn't have X. i need an installer that expects the console to be the interface... is that packaged anywhere or do i have to change the iso myself?
[18:46] <genii> gnat_x: Um, there IS an Ubuntu Server edition, ya know!
[18:46] <genii> gnat_x: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[18:47] <gnat_x> genii: yes. i grabbed the iso, and it doesn't seem to want to work in a headless environment.
[18:47] <gnat_x> maybe i grabbed the wrong image…
[18:47] <kahrl> gnat_x: ssh -X to the host from a machine that has X?
[18:48] <gnat_x> kahrl: hrm. interesting idea.
[18:50] <Raventec> So, can you create symbolic links between two drives at different mount points
[18:50] <icvotria> ugh, one more sorry for my noobness, and can anyone tell me what's going on here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8528486/
[18:51] <gnat_x> Raventec: you should be able to yes.
[18:51] <genii> Raventec: It's called a bind mount
[18:51] <f0ster> trying to use network-manager-openvpn from command line (on a headless machine), any recommendations ?
[18:52] <genii> gnat_x: You might want to alternately install by way of debootstrap
[18:52] <gnat_x> genii: ohh that's interesting.
[18:53] <Raventec> genii, I see. Thank you. I'm actually asking because I'm trying to do something under Android, but as long as it's possible in Linux it's possible in android
[18:54] <genii> Raventec: I'm not sure if the busybox version  of "mount" in Android has that switch but you could try
[18:55] <AR45> Is there any good software that will automatically clean cache and free up ram?
[18:55] <stompyj> is there a size limit for a root drive on 12.04? / where could I find something out like that?
[18:55] <rww> !ram
[18:56] <rww> stompyj: minimum or maximum?
[18:56] <stompyj> maximum
[18:56] <stompyj> I’m trying to attach a 500GB EBS drive to sda1 on EC2, and it’s rendering the box un-sshable
[18:56] <stompyj> if I stay under 150GB or so, it works
[18:56] <compdoc> stompyj, that sounds crazy
[18:57] <rww> stompyj: there's the limits on filesystem size for ext3/4, but they're both way over 500GB
[18:57] <stompyj> compdoc: crazy trying to have a 500gb root drive, or crazy it renders it un-sshable?
[18:57] <stompyj> phew ok
[18:57] <rww> so that's odd
[18:57] <Voyage> I wanted a good reliable VPS server with Linux Ubuntu. Amazon ec2 dont accept my debit card. we, is there any other such good VPS company?
[18:57] <stompyj> so I’m not 100% crazy
[18:57] <compdoc> that it prevents ssh
[18:57] <stompyj> which is good to know
[18:57] <stompyj> ok, I’ll keep experimenting
[18:57] <stompyj> but I just wanted to confirm there wasn’t some crazy 12.04 thing I didn’t know about
[18:57] <stompyj> thanks
[18:58] <compdoc> Ive never used EC2, so maybe theres some limit to something
[18:58] <pbx> Voyage, i've been very happy with johncompanies http://www.johncompanies.com/cloud.html
[18:59] <pbx> Voyage, they'll take payment by paypal if that helps with your card problem
[18:59] <jhutchins> stompyj: Generally sda1 is a partition on device sda.  What are you actually doing?
[18:59] <stompyj> jhutchins: literally just attaching a EBS volume to an instance, as you’d normally do
[18:59] <stompyj> I only mentioned sda1 as a detail
[19:00] <Voyage> k
[19:00] <stompyj> create ec2 instance with 100gb ebs instance == success, create ec2 instance with 500gb ebs instance == no-ssh
[19:00] <stompyj> bizarre behavior
[19:00] <stompyj> gonna try witih a 14.04 ami and see if that makes a diff
[19:01] <genii> stompyj: Are you doing the instructions on http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ebs-using-volumes.html ?
[19:02] <jhutchins> stompyj: That's just a SAN VDI LUN, right?
[19:02] <stompyj> genii: well, the ec2 api allows you to create and attach an ebs volume at time of instance creation, so you don’t need those instructions in that instance
[19:03] <stompyj> jhutchins: I am not sure, tbh
[19:07] <gnat_x> genii: what i needed was a properly built netboot image. the tool i was using builds that.
[19:08] <icvotria> I suck. Would anyone mind private messaging with me and talking me through a few things?
[19:09] <bubbasaures> icvotria, You want peer reviewed help, pm's are not a good idea.
[19:10] <genii> gnat_x: So it's sorted out now?
[19:11] <icvotria> oh, ok. I just feel like I'm going to be really annoying :)
[19:11] <gnat_x> genii: well. on to the next error, but yes. i think i have an iso that uses the screen i launch the vm in.
[19:11] <genii> icvotria: Most helpers prefer open channel so that if they make an error it gets caught, or there may be another solution someone else offers up
[19:12] <genii> icvotria: Also, some smart-aleck may just start PMing you dangerous commands to run but no one would know
[19:14] <icvotria> ok, thanks. I'm just too clueless, didn't want to spam the channel.
[19:14] <daftykins> icvotria: ask the question please
[19:14] <ceibal> HI
[19:14] <gnat_x> icvotria: it is a support channel. real questions aren't spam here.
[19:14] <ceibal> Hello
[19:15] <gnat_x> ceibal: hi.
[19:15] <ceibal> How are you?
[19:15] <icvotria> I'm trying to get flash working in chromium and the terminal said... http://paste.ubuntu.com/8528486/
[19:16] <bubbasaures> ceibal, This is support, hello's and chat are not part of it's role, #ubuntu-offtopic is a chat channel.
[19:16] <billyzed> @Voyage  realize i'm late, but I've had great experiences with ramnode
[19:16] <billyzed> http://www.ramnode.com
[19:16] <daftykins> icvotria: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[19:17] <icvotria> do I just type "/etc/apt/sources.list" into the terminal?
[19:17] <daftykins> icvotria: no, open it with a text editor then copy and paste it into paste.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <stompyj> it was just a specific issue with that amazon AMI, its working with a 14.04 AMi, thanks everyone
[19:18] <Voyage> billyzed,  ok...
[19:18] <bubbasaures> icvotria, try gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    this is read and write copy and paste all to the pastebin.
[19:18] <Voyage> billyzed,  whats the internet speed they give?
[19:19] <icvotria> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8528609/
[19:20] <daftykins> icvotria: can you share "cat /etc/issue" please
[19:21] <billyzed> not 100%. I've been using Digital Ocean recently, I usually get about 200 Mb/s down and 60-100 up
[19:21] <billyzed> https://cloud.digitalocean.com/login
[19:21] <billyzed> it's $5/month or $.007/hour for a 512mb/20GBHD/1 Intel Xeon core instance
[19:21] <r3volver> hi ppl!!!!!!!11
[19:22] <billyzed> sorry meant https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=8a2b977d92be
[19:22] <icvotria> daftykins - I can't find it
[19:22] <billyzed> you'll get $10 credit if you use that
[19:22] <r3volver> could someone please help me configure my tftp/xinetd server?
[19:22] <daftykins> icvotria: what do you mean? open a terminal and run "cat /etc/issue"
[19:22] <r3volver> i can connect to it, but every GET command i do gives me a timeout
[19:23] <icvotria> elementary OS Luna \n \l
[19:23] <genii> icvotria: It would appear you are not even using Ubuntu
[19:23] <icvotria> oh...
[19:23] <daftykins> !elementary | icvotria
[19:24] <icvotria> thanks for all your help everyone, will try there.
[19:27] <liquidcandy> If acpi is turned off via a boot option, could that cause a problem when trying to install a driver?
[19:28] <DistroFeud> most users contribution to this channel is joining and parting
[19:28] <compdoc> doubtful. also pretty rare to have to disable acpi
[19:28] <daftykins> DistroFeud: so disable showing joins/parts in your client.
[19:29] <DistroFeud> thasts like putting your head in the sand
[19:29] <OerHeks> liquidcandy, if that driver uses ACPI functions, maybe
[19:29] <daftykins> DistroFeud: then please don't share your complaints in here
[19:29] <DistroFeud> Im complaining?
[19:30] <DistroFeud> im using windows
[19:30] <DistroFeud> like i give a flying fuck
[19:30] <daftykins> please calm down and keep the language family friendly.
[19:31] <liquidcandy> When I installed ubuntu 14.04 a few days ago, the only way I could get keyboard or mouse input (in other words - any input at all) was to turn acpi off. With that done I was able to do the install at all. Then I find I have problems fixing my broadcom wireless card up with the right driver.
[19:31] <DistroFeud> keep calm and wait for the police to search you
[19:31] <compdoc> liquidcandy, what computer you using?
[19:31] <Pici> DistroFeud: Do you have something on-topic for this channel?
[19:31] <liquidcandy> Don't know if acpi could be responsible for the odd, almost erratic bahavior I see when I try to deal with my bcm4311 card
[19:31] <liquidcandy> an hp pavillion dv6000 from 2007
[19:32] <compdoc> seems new enough
[19:32] <compdoc> very odd
[19:32] <liquidcandy> yeah
[19:32] <liquidcandy> yesterday I flat ran out of steam on the wireless card, then late that night I got to wondering about acpi
[19:34] <johtso> why can't I apt-get install postgresql-9.1 when I can see it here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/postgresql-9.1
[19:34] <johtso> (on trusty)
[19:34] <liquidcandy> What I'd been seeing on the net was that the reason for no input (like I had when I fired up the install disc) was a hardware button for the mouse on this computer. Supposed to be a way to dissable checking that hardware button and fix that issue but I don't know how to do that so I turned of acpi and got input.
[19:34] <johtso> it says the package is not available
[19:35] <helpmeplease2> Does anyone know if there is a mental health channel on freenode?
[19:35] <OerHeks> johtso, current is 9.3
[19:35] <k1l> !alis | helpmeplease2 or ask in #freenode
[19:35] <johtso> OerHeks: right, I was having trouble getting 9.3 working so I was trying to go back to 9.1
[19:36] <liquidcandy> Anyway, what do I do to get a proper install on this pos lappy?
[19:36] <k1l> johtso: is universe enabled?
[19:36] <johtso> after installing postgresql-9.3 on a clean ubuntu installation, the service was saying "* No PostgreSQL clusters exist; see "man pg_createcluster""
[19:37] <CapsuL> evening all
[19:37] <johtso> ahh, it's on universe, I see
[19:38] <lisbeth> Aloha. I'm new to git and I am trying to find the source code for the GNU coreutil "xargs"
[19:40] <Rakon> How can I perform an DNS lookup?
[19:40] <CapsuL> i just install ubuntu gnome on my computeur (old OS formated) , and impossible to make cwireless connection to my box .. i put right password, little widget told me ok but impossible to make ping or google shearch..  can you help me ?
[19:41] <liquidcandy> lisbeth: There is this  http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/shell_cmds/shell_cmds-118/xargs/xargs.c
[19:41] <liquidcandy> but that's apple I think
[19:42] <Jordan_U> lisbeth: What is your end goal?
[19:43] <liquidcandy> lisbeth: and this  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/xargs
[19:43] <lisbeth> Jordan_U, implementing something like xargs in bash
[19:43] <liquidcandy> sorry, not right
[19:44] <Jordan_U> lisbeth: Why are you trying to implement something like xargs in bash? What is your actual *end* goal?
[19:45] <lisbeth> Jordan_U to make a better xargs
[19:46] <Jordan_U> lisbeth: Do you want to make a better xargs for fun, or do you have a project that needs a better xargs? What deficiencies does xargs have that you want to fix?
[19:47] <lisbeth> xargs can run programs bash knows, but xargs (as far as I know) can't be made to run a function within a shell script
[19:52] <CapsuL> i just install ubuntu gnome on my computeur (old OS formated) , and impossible to make cwireless connection to my box .. i put right password, little widget told me ok but impossible to make ping or google shearch..  can you help me ?
[19:52] <Jordan_U> lisbeth: Do you have an example script where you'd like to use an xargs alike with a bash function or builtin?
[19:52] <Zequal> Hey folks, trying to enable kiosk mode on xfce4-panel.. I enabled, but I don't see any applets.
[19:52] <Zequal> *enabled it
[19:52] <tgm4883> CapsuL: are you sure DNS is working?
[19:52] <CapsuL> version 14.o.4
[19:52] <lisbeth> Jordan_U yes
[19:53] <CapsuL> how can i see that ??
[19:53] <tgm4883> CapsuL: can you open a terminal and do "nslookup google.com"
[19:55] <lisbeth> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/y3fihJRA
[19:55] <CapsuL> time out
[19:56] <CapsuL> tgm ?
[19:56] <Jordan_U> lisbeth: You know how people have been saying that bash's feature of exporting functions is something that nobody uses? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11003418/calling-functions-with-xargs-within-a-bash-script :)
[20:00] <johtso> k1l: I'm pretty sure I have universe enabled.. but I it still can't find postgresql-9.1
[20:00] <lisbeth> Jordan_U, so how does export -f work?
[20:00] <tgm4883> CapsuL: can you pastebin the output of 'nm-tool'
[20:00] <eeee> !info postgresql-9.1
[20:00] <Finetundra>  hello, i have installed using the minimal, but when i go to boot up grub goes into rescue mode. what do i do there?
[20:01] <johtso> but http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/postgresql-9.1 ..
[20:01] <f0ster> i cant update or use apt at all on my vm , http://screencast.com/t/cU4gAW9v
[20:01] <grey__> @daftykins : hey its me again the fglrx and fglrx updates presented with ubuntu 14.04 are formerly usable for the AMD hd 7600/7500 and intel hd 4000 , hybrid graphics , thanks for your advice :)
[20:02] <genii> Finetundra: Are you sure it's rescue mode and not just booting without a gui?
[20:02] <daftykins> grey__: all working great and your system is cooler now, is it?
[20:02] <Jordan_U> lisbeth: How do you use it, or how is it implemented behind the scenes?
[20:02] <Finetundra> it says, "Entering rescue mode..." "grub rescue>
[20:03] <eeee> johtso: i don't think it exists, i don't have it here either.
[20:03] <f0ster> because these links are actually down
[20:03] <lumia900> OerHeks whats dose DE means
[20:03] <johtso> eeee: I'm right in thinking that that page would suggest that it was available right?
[20:03] <Finetundra> load rescue files
[20:04] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Do you have more than one internal drive?
[20:04] <genii> Finetundra: OK. So then after you get root console there, try to issue:  update-grub && update-initramfs -u    ....then: sync && reboot    ...and see if it still does that
[20:04] <lisbeth> Jordan_U; My main question is if I do: myfunc () { foo; }; export -f myfunc
[20:04] <lumia900> hi
[20:04] <lisbeth> can I then call it in any subshell?
[20:04] <eeee> johtso: i don't know, when i try to do apt-cache show , it says Can't select versions from package 'postgresql-9.1' as it is purely virtual
[20:04] <lumia900> am getting this when i try to install any application in my ubuntu
[20:04] <lumia900> http://www.picpaste.com/ubuntu-gOtqGL17.jpg
[20:05] <grey__> daftykins: yes its working fine, it got cooled by 25 C degrees but still i hear the fan turning and it get to 65 C sometimes but im gonna leave it till tomorrow to be 100% sure :)
[20:06] <Jordan_U> lisbeth: Yes, any child process that is bash (as opposed to some other shell like dash).
[20:06] <eeee> johtso: trying to install it says that it is obsolete, or installable via another package.
[20:06] <ikonia> lumia900: can you show me the output of the command "uname -a" please.
[20:06] <eeee> johtso: when i searched, 9.3 versions showed up
[20:07] <lumia900> ikanobori i have pasted the result in you PM
[20:07] <ikonia> lumia900: just put it in the channel, it should be one 1
[20:07] <ikonia> one line
[20:07] <lumia900> Linux CMLSVR01 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 22 21:28:38 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:07] <lumia900> root@CMLSVR01:/#
[20:08] <Finetundra> genii, "Unknown command 'update-grub'"
[20:08] <ikonia> lumia900: is this a physical box ?
[20:08] <lumia900> the first thing i tried was installing webmin ..
[20:08] <lumia900> yes its physical one
[20:08] <ikonia> webmin does not exist in ubuntu
[20:08] <lumia900> acer desktop
[20:08] <ikonia> lumia900: have you added ppa's / 3rd party repos
[20:08] <lumia900> yes i did some links
[20:08] <ikonia> ok, then straight away I can say it's very likley they are causing hte problems
[20:09] <genii> Finetundra: Very odd. Does /usr/sbin/update-grub  exist?
[20:09] <lumia900> http://www.webmin.com/udeb.html
[20:09] <ikonia> lumia900: when you install these 3rd party repos they can install packages that conflict with the ubuntu supplied packages, and often break them
[20:09] <lumia900> oh
[20:09] <Finetundra> genii, how do i check?
[20:09] <lumia900> but even i was unable to install xchat too
[20:09] <ikonia> lumia900: can you run apt-cache policy libnet-ssleay-perl and put the the output in a pastebin please.
[20:09] <lumia900> i get same error for all application
[20:10] <lumia900> apt-get install yum
[20:10] <lumia900> also u get the same
[20:10] <Jordan_U> genii: update-grub only re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg, if they're at a grub rescue shell then grub isn't even getting far enough to read the grub.cfg. Right now they're at the grub rescue shell, not at an initramfs shell.
[20:10] <genii> Finetundra: ls /usr/sbin/* | grep grub
[20:10] <ikonia> lumia900: yes, because you have a.) conflicts b.) un-complete installs
[20:10] <eeee> genii: i think Finetundra didn't get a root console yet
[20:10] <ikonia> lumia900: you don't install yum
[20:10] <xangua> LG looks like a fridge I just bought :-)
[20:10] <genii> Jordan_U: Ah, good catch. I'm undercaffeinated today!
[20:10] <Ajkthx> in soviet russia, ubuntu installs you
[20:10] <xangua> Wrong channel sorry
[20:10] <lumia900> ikanobori let me get that now wait
[20:10] <Thedarkb> Ajkthx: true
[20:10] <genii> Ah, so in grub cli then
[20:12] <lumia900> ikanobori i have pasted
[20:12] <lumia900> and how to get the link in here ?
[20:12] <ikonia> lumia900: post the link in the channel
[20:12] <lumia900> http://pastebin.com/H2ziWB8Y
[20:12] <Finetundra> genii, "error : attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'"
[20:13] <CapsuL> i just install ubuntu gnome on my computeur (old OS formated) , and impossible to make cwireless connection to my box .. i put right password, little widget told me ok but impossible to make ping or google shearch..  can you help me ?
[20:13] <ikonia> lumia900: ok, so if you do "apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl" what happens
[20:13] <tgm4883> CapsuL: can you pastebin the output of 'nm-tool'
[20:14] <lumia900> http://pastebin.com/ADk5xuv1
[20:15] <David-A> lisbeth: did you find out about source code?
[20:15] <CapsuL> difficult , i am on smartphone nokia n900 from xchat
[20:15] <genii> Finetundra: Yes, you are in Grub command-line and not on a running linux yet.
[20:15] <CapsuL> and computeur cant go to internet
[20:15] <tgm4883> !pastebinit | CapsuL
[20:15] <tgm4883> Off to do an interview. Hopefully someone else can take a look at the output
[20:15] <CapsuL> i have dns same adress to default route
[20:15] <lumia900> ikanobori looks like the same i get for this too
[20:15] <ikonia> lumia900: apt-cache policy usermin (put output in pastebin please)
[20:15] <JCT> can i decrease the size of a partition to add more size to another?
[20:16] <Finetundra> genii, so what do i do?
[20:16] <genii> Finetundra: I'm just looking up the syntax for Grub to try and make it boot, one minute
[20:16] <lumia900> http://pastebin.com/FNdSU1wC
[20:16] <CapsuL> need INTERNET connection for this...
[20:16] <Finetundra> ok
[20:16] <JCT> try super grub disk 2
[20:16] <CapsuL> ping didn t back ...
[20:16] <JCT> you can boot a lot of linux systems from a disk
[20:17] <ikonia> !info http://pastebin.com/FNdSU1wC
[20:17] <CapsuL> i am on smarphone now
[20:17] <ikonia> oops
[20:17] <sikenme> hello , can anybody tell me how to restore the partition of a usb stick in order to use it with linux (fat32) ? i may have messes things up
[20:17] <ikonia> !info usermin
[20:17] <ikonia> lumia900: so it looks like the webmin ppa is causing you problems
[20:17] <genii> Finetundra: You installed on the first partition of the first hd?
[20:17] <lumia900> oh
[20:17] <JCT> can i decrease the size of a partition to add more size to the partition i'm using right now?
[20:18] <lumia900> ikonia s what do i need to get this installed ..
[20:18] <Finetundra> genii, i installed to a fresh HDD, so yes i believe that's so
[20:18] <k1l> JCT: yes. boot a live cd/usb and use gparted
[20:18] <ikonia> lumia900: two questions 1.) are you new to ubuntu 2.) is this a new install, or an old install (the OS)
[20:18] <JCT> aha i knew it
[20:18] <k1l> JCT: and make backups before that because of murphys law
[20:18] <JCT> so i can use the ubuntu cd trial and install gparted to do that?
[20:18] <lumia900> 1. am new to ubuntu
[20:18] <lisbeth> David-A,
[20:18] <lisbeth> yes
[20:19] <lumia900> 2. this is fresh install
[20:19] <lumia900> just enabled the samba and openSSH while installing OS
[20:19] <Finetundra> ikonia, no i'm not new. yes this is a fresh install
[20:19] <lisbeth> Jordan_U, do you know if there is a way to do something like export -f except you send it into a specific subshell instead of making it global?
[20:19] <genii> Finetundra: OK, so then 3 commands here, first: linux  (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1    and hit enter. Then:  initrd  (hd0,1)/initrd.img     and hit enter again. Then just: boot
[20:19] <k1l> JCT: gparted is already installed there
[20:19] <ikonia> lumia900: ok, then my suggestion is to do a clean install and not install ANY 3rd party repos or PPA's
[20:19] <ikonia> Finetundra: I didn't ask you
[20:19] <genii> Finetundra: And see if it goes.
[20:19] <JCT> ? i had to install it manually just now
[20:19] <EOBeav> Any success dual booting ubuntu on a Chromebook?
[20:20] <k1l> JCT: dont mix the live-iso with a install
[20:20] <JCT> confusing... :/
[20:20] <lumia900> ikonia: but i have already worked with ubunt... were i have not faced such issues .
[20:20] <genii> Finetundra: Hit enter after you type boot  .. of course.
[20:20] <lumia900> both ihave tried in VMware and Physical
[20:20] <ikonia> lumia900: but you are facing them now,
[20:20] <JCT> nvm
[20:21] <ikonia> lumia900: so you can either follow my advice based on my expeirence, or ignore it and continue to not be able to install anyting until you manually unpick it all
[20:21] <lumia900> are u sure that i dont want to enable any package while OS installation ?
[20:21] <ikonia> lumia900: I am %300 sure you do not want to enabled ANY 3rd party repos or PPA's
[20:21] <Finetundra> genii, is there a space between vmlinuz and root?
[20:21] <ikonia> lumia900: clean install - no 3rd party repos
[20:21] <lumia900> ok .. ikonia thanks for the info
[20:21] <lumia900> but how come i get installed webmin
[20:22] <sikenme> hello , can anybody tell me how to restore the partition of a usb stick in order to use it with linux (fat32) ?
[20:22] <lumia900> any usefull links there i can learn the webmin clean installtion
[20:22] <genii> Finetundra: Thats correct, no space there
[20:22] <ikonia> lumia900: do not install webmin
[20:22] <ikonia> do you understand "do not install webmin"
[20:22] <ikonia> lumia900: I've said this 3 times
[20:22] <ikonia> do not try to install webmin
[20:22] <genii> Finetundra: Sorry, yes a space. need coffee
[20:22]  * genii makes more
[20:23] <David-A> lisbeth: export -f 1) a #bash question 2) the export goes into the environment. you would have to remove it in childs where you dont want it (or unset it before you spawn more childs in the parent)
[20:24] <genii> !webmin | lumia900
[20:24] <Finetundra> genii, still unknown
[20:24] <genii> lumia900: The suggested replacement is zentyal
[20:24] <lumia900> since there is no gui for samba managment am trying to use webmin..
[20:24] <ikonia> lumia900: do not use webmin
[20:24] <lumia900> ikonia ok i agree :)
[20:25] <RebWegy> I am trying to install software updates using 'update-manager'. when update-manager needs to install updates which require an admin password the application quits with no error message. installing updates which do not require an admin passwords works fine
[20:25] <lumia900> so what is the best way to handle my ubuntu as file server ...
[20:25] <lumia900> with GUI
[20:25] <Guma> Hello. I have unique peoblem. I created init script that it starts at level 3, rc3.rc/S99service. The problem is that my service is started before DHCP returns IP so my service fails. I did put sleep 10 sec and it works but it is a temp hack. Is there a way to block in dhcp service untill you get I
[20:26] <brucelee> hey whats the difference between defining a post-up ip addr line, and defining an entire block to allocate a subinterface
[20:27] <nicklasmoeller> Is there a listing of default file permissions for folders of / in 14.04 ?
[20:27] <squinty> lumia900:   might want to look at   system-config-samba
[20:27] <CapsuL> sry all paquet are here :)
[20:27] <Finetundra> genii, would doing a new install be easier?
[20:27] <genii> Finetundra: There's probably some way to make it boot the install from there, but unfortunately I'm not that familiar with Grub command-line
[20:28] <genii> Finetundra: I would probably actually try that first if nothing on there you need, yes
[20:28] <Finetundra> genii, i'll just reinstall. it's literally a brand new drive
[20:28] <genii> lumia900: You don't listen so well. I just told you, zentyal/ebox
[20:30] <lumia900> ikonia: can i give a try for Zentyal in ubuntu ?
[20:30] <Pazooza> Anybody have a Ubuntu phone yet?
[20:30] <brucelee> for example, post-up ip addr add 192.168.x.x/win 6
[20:30] <xangua> nicklasmoeller: better stand your actual problem, sounds like you will need reinstall
[20:30] <lumia900> genii the same error while am installing Zentyal
[20:30] <xangua> ! Touch | Pazooza
[20:31] <stompyj> #remix
[20:31] <stompyj> oops
[20:31] <genii> lumia900: What error is that? Do you have a pastebin of it?
[20:31] <lumia900> http://pastebin.com/bcaMJLkA
[20:32] <DaveGil> Software updater tells me I have an update for Ubuntu Base of 64.6 MB. When try to update, software updater crashes
[20:32] <nicklasmoeller> I moved a bit around between partitions yesterday - I accidentally did a cp -r to /home - that's the only bottleneck. Now when I log in, I get a black screen, and a cursor. I'm just concerned that my user owns /bin and /lib as well, but I don't have something to compare with, other than a 12.04 install, which states that /lib and /bin is owned by root
[20:33] <genii> lumia900: Well, firstly, if you have a # for a prompt and not $ then don't bother with putting sudo in front of the command. Before you tried installing anything from apt-get, did you first run yet: apt-get update   ..?
[20:33] <k1l> DaveGil: please try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and pastebin if any errors happen
[20:33] <nicklasmoeller> Don't worry about the whole login problem (unless you have a quick fix. I'm running gnome on ubuntu and have been for a while - working fine. Not the nvidia problem, since I don't have nvidia at all. But I believe it's just a question about permissions in my /home folder
[20:33] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: you copied something to /home? or copied /home to something? or moved something?
[20:34] <lumia900> genii yes i have done apt-get update
[20:34] <lumia900> and that was able to get the updates fine
[20:34] <lumia900> the problem is i was unable to make any further installation
[20:34] <k1l> lumia900: do you have PPAs enabled?
[20:35] <genii> lumia900: OK. Looks like you put some PPA for usermin, you should remove that.
[20:35] <nicklasmoeller> imbezol: I had moved /home to another partition, where all was working well, thought I would move back, and did a sudo cp -r /mnt/storage/home /home
[20:35] <ikonia> lumia900: we've been through this
[20:35] <genii> k1l: Obviously they do, usermin is not in repos :)
[20:35] <ikonia> lumia900: clean install, no ppas - start again
[20:35] <lumia900> genii thats right
[20:35] <eeee> nicklasmoeller: that would render the permissions wrong
[20:35] <k1l> lumia900: please pastebin the following: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" and pastebin that
[20:35] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: ok. does your user howe the correct location specified in /etc/passwd?
[20:35] <ikonia> lumia900: is there a reason you've not done this ?
[20:35] <eeee> nicklasmoeller: use cp -ar when you want to copy stuff and leave the permissions
[20:35] <nicklasmoeller> eeee: I know, it was an accident, didn't think about it at the time
[20:36] <imbezol> eeee: -a implies -r
[20:36] <eeee> sorry cp -pvr
[20:37] <emul> Hi there
[20:37] <nicklasmoeller> imbezol: yes
[20:37] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: since you just copied you can always copy again using -a this time
[20:37] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: or you could save time by using rsync to copy permissions and not all the data
[20:37] <lumia900> http://pastebin.com/TV8aPw63
[20:37] <eeee> nicklasmoeller: if you want you can chown -R <user>: /home/<user>/
[20:37] <ikonia> lumia900: we've been through this
[20:37] <ikonia> lumia900: clean install, no ppas - start again
[20:37] <ikonia> lumia900: is there a reason you've not done this ?
[20:38] <eeee> nicklasmoeller: and also set the permissions to chmod -R 770 /home/<user>
[20:38] <eeee> ( use sudo for both )
[20:38] <nicklasmoeller> imbezal: I could, if I hadn't deleted the original.. shame on me
[20:38] <DaveGil> kll: Appears to have run fine. No errors.
[20:38] <lumia900> http://pastebin.com/R7TQT8Wr
[20:38] <nicklasmoeller> eeee: /home should by all means be owned by root:root right?
[20:38] <ikonia> lumia900: is there a reason you have not done a clean install yet ?
[20:38] <eeee> ( use sudo for the first only )
[20:38] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: ah. yeah just do a recusive chown user:user on the user's home directory then
[20:38] <emul> Something unusual happened to me and I couldnt find info about it on google. I got a brand new laptop with a Nvidia GTX850M and I installed the oficial drivers from the Nvidia page. The next time i tried to login it only showed the background and the mouse. Same thing for the package nvidia-current
[20:39] <emul> Why could this be happening?
[20:39] <eeee> nicklasmoeller: /home itself? drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Oct  8 12:58 /home
[20:39] <lumia900> ikonia casue am sitting in remote location ..
[20:39] <nicklasmoeller> Yes! Can you give me a check on /bin and /lib as well?
[20:39] <ikonia> lumia900: ok, so stop what you are doing and wait until you are at the location
[20:39] <popey> emul: common when people install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com and not from the repo
[20:39] <daftykins> emul: first off, that sounds like an nvidia optimus laptop so you can't just use nvidia drivers directly
[20:39] <ikonia> lumia900: then do a clean install as we discussed and move forward as discussed
[20:39] <nicklasmoeller> I haven't touched it as far as I recall, but it's owned by my user
[20:40] <eeee> nicklasmoeller: that's odd
[20:40] <nicklasmoeller> but is /bin and /lib normally owned by root? That's what I came in for
[20:40] <nicklasmoeller> It seemed pretty odd to me as well
[20:40] <eeee> yes, both are owned by root.
[20:40] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: you can likely do a "sudo chown -R root:root /bin /lib" safely
[20:40] <daftykins> emul: look into nvidia-prime
[20:41] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: my system has nothing in either of those directories that's not root:root
[20:41] <at_work> How do I disable the requirement I have a valid gateway during installation (doing a preseed'd netinstall)?
[20:41] <k1l> lumia900: i think that zentyal line is wrong you added there
[20:41] <nicklasmoeller> Thanks! I will give it a go, and be back later. Might be I get it up and running again. Thanks guys, have a nice evening!
[20:42] <imbezol> nicklasmoeller: good luck
[20:43] <emul> popey: i reinstalled ubuntu and then installed the repo drivers (nvidia-common package)
[20:43] <emul> popey: and i basically got the same output
[20:44] <emul> daftykins: would using bumblebee fix the problem?
[20:44] <daftykins> emul: nvidia-prime is the newer alternative to bumblebee
[20:45] <daftykins> emul: yeah you can't just install even repo based drivers without prime or bumblebee
[20:45] <emul> daftykins: so i would have to install this before and then the driver or the order wouldnt mather?
[20:46] <daftykins> emul: plenty of guides online about nvidia-prime
[20:46] <emul> daftykins: k got ya. thanks :)
[20:46] <daftykins> no problemo
[20:51] <Finetundra> is there a small non-minimal ubuntu distro image?
[20:51] <ikonia> define small
[20:52] <Finetundra> less than 700megs
[20:52] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, standard image or minimal. no inbetween
[20:52] <ikonia> Finetundra: no
[20:52] <at_work> there is a server image.
[20:52] <xangua> Finetundra: lubuntu still fits on a CD
[20:52] <nicklasmoeller> Hey guys - it did the trick! Thanks
[20:52] <nicklasmoeller> Now my config is all gone, but I can live with that
[20:53] <Finetundra> just wondering
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: You have a buggy BIOS that doesn't properly handle large drives. If you make a separate small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive it will work around this bug.
[20:53] <at_work> Finetundra,  qemu qemu 572M Oct  2 07:51 ubuntu-14.04.1-server-amd64.iso
[20:54] <knosys> Hello
[20:55] <knosys> Have someone installed wxWidgets in ubuntu trusty?
[20:55] <christian_> c'è qualcuno ?
[20:55] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, not sure i understand you response. is in reference to earlier?
[20:55] <k1l> !it | christian_
[20:56] <christian_> ok ok
[20:56] <christian_> thanks
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: The bug in your BIOS is why you booted to a grub rescue shell rather that booting Ubuntu successfully. I can tell that it's a problem with your BIOS not handling large drives properly from the error message "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'".
[20:57] <knosys> I am having problems getting it to work, i would appreciate some help, maybe someone know's what i have to do. http://apt.wxwidgets.org/dists/  Im supposed to sign PGP key from here a curl, to get the files for my distro. But there are files for every distro except trusty.
[20:58] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: A re-install might by chance get you a working configuration, if all of the files needed to boot happen to get placed near the beginning of the drive by chance, but it *will* break again eventually unless you create a small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive (or use another work around, like configuring grub to use native drivers to bypass your buggy BIOS).
[20:59] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, i see. well the install is literally at its end so we shall see what happens
[21:02] <Finetundra>  ok, it now says "minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. for the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[21:03] <Finetundra> where to now?
[21:06] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: I am late to the party, but, seems the system is not finding the boot code. What results -> ls -lh (hd0,mdsos1)/boot , search -f /sbin/init < -.
[21:07] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, so what do i do?
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: You are presently at a grub > prompt, no ? If yes, what results from my last grub terminal commands ?
[21:08] <eeee> Finetundra: there's a typo, msdos1
[21:08] <Bashing-om> eeee: Thanks ! did bot see my error !
[21:09] <eeee> Bashing-om: no problem :)
[21:10] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, "unknown argument '-f'"
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: The easiest thing to do, that will lead to a long term solution, is to re-install and be sure to configure a small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive. Do you know how to do that with Ubuntu's installer?
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: UnGood ! .. Ok, how bout -> set <- a lot of output .. what is in the line "root=" ?
[21:13] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, by removinf '-f' resulted in a set of dates, times, days, and files\
[21:13] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: See Jordan_U advise, // He knows where of he advises ! .. unless you want to crawl up the learning curve here,
[21:13] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, i'll take the curve. root=hd0,msdos1
[21:13] <JCT> i'm having trouble installing Dolphin-emu
[21:13] <Bashing-om> jt
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Try running "nativedisk". It may or may not cause grub to freeze, if so you'll just have to reboot (no damage done).
[21:15] <AR45> I'm experiencing some tearing with propertary NVIDIA drivers.
[21:15] <AR45> Any work arounds?
[21:15] <AR45> GeForce 320M.
[21:15] <metallic> Finetundra, do you know Grub customizer? It may come handy for you
[21:15] <Jordan_U> metallic: Finetundra: grub customizer will not help with this problem.
[21:16] <daftykins> AR45: check vsync in nvidia-settings
[21:16] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, can't find command 'nativedisk'
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: well, grub knows where the boot files "should" be. Any return now from -> ls -lh (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg, if so we can try and boot this sucker .
[21:16] <metallic> it detects other OSs in the hard drive. But you can always write down a grub file by hand
[21:16] <JCT> i tried the custom .deb file the download site provided https://dolphin-emu.org/download/ but ubuntu software system says i can't download it
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: All paths are relative to $root unless otherwise specified, so you can just "ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg".
[21:17] <JCT> i tried the terminal commands for installing the ppa and getting the packages, another error
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: What is the grub version? (Should be displayed near the top of the screen).
[21:17] <JCT> nevermind
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Thanks, getting my mind still in gear here ,,, grub/booting always has my interest .
[21:18] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, too much text at this point, how do i scroll up?
[21:19] <metallic> What OS are you trying to boot? And what OS are you trying to fix the grub from? Finetundra
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: You do not with out -> set pager=1 <- .
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: You can't, let me do some experimenting with the version of grub in Ubuntu 14.04 (which is what you've installed IIRC).
[21:20] <emul> daftykins: sorry to bother you again. are you still there? I tried using nvidia-prime but since i cant get my desktop working after rebooting it seems useless.
[21:20] <alberto_> ciao
[21:20] <daftykins> emul: do you mean your desktop is still dead after the earlier attempts at installing nvidia drivers?
[21:21] <alberto_> hi
[21:21] <daftykins> alberto_: hello. do you have a question?
[21:21] <Scyth> there are any BRs here? my english sux...
[21:21] <daftykins> "BR"?
[21:21] <Scyth> brazilians
[21:21] <k1l> !br | Scyth
[21:21] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, is there a space?
[21:22] <emul> daftykins: i removed nvidia-* and rebooted and i could go to desktop. but whenever i install nvidia prime and the repo drivers it will happen the same
[21:22] <Finetundra> metallic, ubuntu 14.04. i'm in the grub terminal not in an OS
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: It has been awhile, but I do believe there is that space " set pager=1" . between set and pager.
[21:23] <daftykins> emul: can you install the package 'pastebinit' then run "lspci | pastebinit" and share the link it creates here?
[21:23] <daftykins> emul: come to think of it, i'd bet you need the very latest drivers to support such a new chip
[21:23] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, no output
[21:24] <emul> daftykins: i already tried the xorg-edge drivers or whatever they are called
[21:24] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: Bet you are good, no output, command accepted. Run a long command and see.
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: There should be a "nativedisk" command. Are you sure that you spelled it correctly?
[21:24] <joehannes> uups
[21:25] <emul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8529248/
[21:25] <daftykins> emul: ugh adding a PPA, yeah i wouldn't do that
[21:25] <metallic> Finetundra, I suggest you reinstall your OS overwriting your existing version, writing grub configuration is a delicate thing, you need to know what you're doing.
[21:25] <emul> daftykins: yes but since the other ones didnt help neither...
[21:25] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, not found
[21:25] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: insmod nativedisk
[21:25] <Finetundra> metallic, i'm not too worried, this is a fresh drive so no chance to loose anything
[21:26] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: You also now have me in a learning mode.
[21:27] <metallic> then this is the easy way to go Finetundra, you can read some introduction to grub2 at Ubuntu page
[21:27] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/nativedisk.mod' not found
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: "nativedisk" is a command that will insmod the modules for grub's native disk drivers (with no arguments, all of them, or you can specify pata,ahci,ehci, etc), then it will do the cleanup needed to fix $prefix to point to the native disks, whose names will have changed.
[21:27] <i4saken> Can anyone tell me how to log out my vps in the bash?
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Is your hard drive connected via PATA or SATA?
[21:28] <i4saken> I know it’s a stupid question…
[21:28] <daftykins> emul: is it the v337 driver you've been installing once you get to that stage?
[21:28] <rangeles2276> How can I fix a Grub issue on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? My PC wont boot all I get is a Grub> prompt
[21:28] <daftykins> i4saken: 'exit'
[21:28] <scarrz> hey all I customized an application (gmusicbrowser.desktop) in /usr/share/applications and now it is gone from the menu and I don't know how to get it back. it appears to be in the correct categories so I am assuming it's a permissions issue. can someone help?
[21:28] <i4saken> daftykins: thanks!
[21:28] <Finetundra> via pata to sata bridge
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Also, remember that the easiest, fastest solution is still to re-install with a separate small /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive.
[21:29] <Finetundra> i've got time to burn, Jordan_U
[21:29] <emul> daftykins: i tried several really. i think the last one i tried was the 343
[21:29] <bubbasaures> rangeles2276, This just ubuntu, any other OS?
[21:29] <rangeles2276> bubbasaures just ubuntu
[21:30] <nrdb> I have an Epson CX550 scanner/printer ... it isn't scaning with the correct colours  ... when I run scaniamge -L ... I get ... "device `snapscan:libusb:008:004' is a Acer Color MFP01 flatbed scanner"
[21:30] <bubbasaures> rangeles2276, Are you on a mbr boot?
[21:30] <daftykins> emul: hmm i'm not sure then. i assume you install ubuntu followed by fully updating it?
[21:30] <rangeles2276> bubbasaures I have no idea all I know is that I have an Intel RAID at 4TB
[21:30] <emul> daftykins: yes exactly
[21:31] <bubbasaures> rangeles2276, Ah raid no real idea here, others here know this.
[21:31] <daftykins> emul: what prime guide did you follow?
[21:31] <rangeles2276> bubbasaures the weird thing is on first install it worked great then I did the system update which prompted me, but not Upgrade just the regular updates and thats when it broke
[21:32] <rangeles2276> bubbasaures so I'm pretty sure there was a Grub update and it broke it. I don't understand what the heck is the issue with this Grub thing
[21:32] <daftykins> emul: also what model computer is this?
[21:32] <daftykins> make+model
[21:33] <emul> daftykins: i just googled it and the most commented thing was: "you got to install prime to get optimus running" so i installed it and then "you have to pick the card in the nvidia X settings". yes but i dont have a desktop running anymore
[21:33] <rangeles2276> bubbasaures I've been trying to google for a solution but nothing
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Run "ls -l" (No other arguments) then "insmod ahci".
[21:33] <Finetundra> fine, i give. i'll reinstall again
[21:33] <daftykins> emul: ok so not a full guide
[21:33] <rangeles2276> bubbasaures I can't even find what command I should enter at the Grub prompt
[21:34] <emul> daftykins: exactly
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: Jordan_U -> ls -al /boot/grub/i386-pc/ <- IF not a lot of files there. Then for sure a bad install ???
[21:34] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: What did it prompt you about? What was your answer?
[21:34] <rangeles2276> bubbasaures I just need to load the OS because the damn thing loaded once prior to the updates
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: The install is fine, Finetundra just has a buggy BIOS that can't properly handle large drives.
[21:35] <emul> daftykins: every guide says basically the same thing. just purge everything u had relating to nvidia and then install the newest drivers and the primer
[21:35] <emul> prime*
[21:35] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U no all I get is the Grub CLI thing
[21:35] <bubbasaures> rangeles2276, There is a boot script you could run that gives you details, you could probably boot in with supergrub and fix from Ubuntu.
[21:35] <revnoah> I'm having trouble getting mail set up for some local web development. I've tried postfix and sendmail but haven't had much luck. Does anyone have a particular method they would recommend?
[21:35] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, could it just be that the bios is old?
[21:35] <daftykins> emul: and all bumblebee packages have been purged too?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Earlier you said "I did the system update which prompted me, but not Upgrade just the regular updates and thats when it broke". My previous question was in reference to that.
[21:35] <emul> daftykins: i didnt even install them
[21:36] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U all it said was to hit TAB to see a list of commands
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Well, older BIOSs are more likely to be buggy in this way, as there were fewer large drives when they were being developed and tested.
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Ho Kay ..As I have seen your advise, the solution is create the /boot partition upon re-installation .
[21:36] <daftykins> emul: so what's the make + model of laptop?
[21:36] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U yes the regular updates that you get after a fresh install
[21:36] <metallic> Jordan_U, Why do you recommend to save a small partition for the bootloader? Tell me please :)
[21:36] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: What did?
[21:37] <emul> daftykins: Msi GE 80 2PC
[21:37] <emul> daftykins: sorry, 60*
[21:37] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, i'll install again
[21:37] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U it ask me if I wanted to upgrade to 14.04 lts and I said no then I clicked on "install updates"
[21:37] <Jordan_U> metallic: Because their BIOS can't access portions of the drive past a certain limit, meaning that all boot files need to be within that limit. If their all stored in a small partition near the beginning of the drive, you guarantee that that will be true.
[21:38] <emul> daftykins: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507969/compatibility-ubuntu-and-msi-ge60 im going to try this
[21:38] <metallic> So when I install my bootloader in /dev/sda, am I doing it wrong? should I create a partition and install it there?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Is your RAID array mdraid or FakeRAID? (If it's configured in your BIOS menus then it's almost certainly FakeRAID).
[21:38] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U I also tried re-installing the system and it does not work, still the same damn Grub thing
[21:39] <rangeles2276> ah no it is an Intel LSI RAID
[21:39] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U I actually have a RAID Card
[21:39] <Jordan_U> metallic: Even for Finetundra, grub's boot sector will be installed to /dev/sda, it's just /boot/grub and its files that will be in a separate partition. And unless you have a buggy BIOS, you don't need a separate partition.
[21:39] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Still FakeRAID.
[21:40] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U what?
[21:40] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U how can that be
[21:41] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U ok at this point I don't care I just want to fix this, I've been fighting with this thing since 9am this morning
[21:41] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[21:42] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, what if i were to install using LVM?
[21:42] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: That will explain what FakeRAID is.
[21:42] <nrdb> I have an Epson CX5500 scanner/printer ... it isn't scanning with the correct colours  ... when I run scaniamge -L ... I get ... "device `snapscan:libusb:008:004' is a Acer Color MFP01 flatbed scanner"  .... why Acer and not Epson?  .... how do I fix this?
[21:42] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Are you currently at the grub shell?
[21:43] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U no, let me turn it back on
[21:43] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: If so, please run "echo $root" then "search --file /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and post the output of the two commands here.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Are you currently booted from a GNU/Linux LiveCD/USB? If so, stay booted into it for now.
[21:44] <metallic> Thanks for your answer Jordan_U :D
[21:45] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U no It is on a different box
[21:45] <paulo> ...
[21:45] <Jordan_U> metallic: You're welcome.
[21:45] <netyyrrazqabbc> how to block all application from internet access using and choose selected application that can use internet access ?
[21:46] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U this thing has an Intel Boo Agent GE
[21:46] <rangeles2276> *boot
[21:46] <Finetundra> ok Jordan_U, what do i do once i'm at the partition disks screen?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: As long as your /boot/ partition is completely contained within the first part of your drive, everything else can be however you want.
[21:46] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, how do i do that?
[21:47] <metallic> reserve a ext4 formatted partition, Finetundra
[21:47] <netyyrrazqabbc> *excuse me. how to block all application from use internet access  and choose selected application that can use internet access ?
[21:47] <metallic> and mount it as boot
[21:48] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U ok I ran those commands you asked and I got "hd0, gpt2"
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> netyyrrazqabbc: use iptables or gufw etc
[21:48] <dmn123> I want to figure out what my current netdev_backlog value is - I know I can check net.core.netdev_max_backlog via sysctl - but how can I figure out how much is used?
[21:49] <Finetundra> how big does the ext4 partition have to be?
[21:49] <metallic> it is for the boot folder so... not much
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: If you want LVM, try setting it up with the installer normally, unless you're dual booting with another OS it will probably set up what you need as a side affect of how the installer generally configures LVM. You should see it create a small ext3/4 /boot/ partition as the first partition in the drive.
[21:50] <Finetundra> 2gigs fine?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: 2 GiB is fine, yes.
[21:50] <netyyrrazqabbc> ActionParsnip, i have try gufw but i cannot find how to block applications use gufw
[21:50] <hans_> hello
[21:50] <netyyrrazqabbc> ?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Both commands gave the same output?
[21:50] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U yes
[21:51] <metallic> Finetundra, yes, actually my boot folder is 114 MiB and works fine XD
[21:51] <metallic> but it is ok
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: sysctl –p sys.net.core.netdev_max_backlog  maybe
[21:51] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: OK. Please try running "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg". It should print your grub.cfg to the screen, which should be a lot of output that isn't particularly important at the moment. What would be important is if it prints an error message instead.
[21:51] <Finetundra> i'm gonna try LVM first
[21:52] <reisio> hans_: ohio
[21:52] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: that will show me the max value, but I want to know how high it is right now - not the maximum
[21:52] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U "error: out of disk"
[21:52] <hans_> all ok here
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: then read: man sysctl
[21:53] <netyyrrazqabbc> ActionParsnip, can give some step use gufw to block all application use internet access and only browsing applications that can use internet.?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Congratulations, you're having exactly the same problem as Finetundra :)
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> netyyrrazqabbc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45072/how-to-control-internet-access-for-each-program
[21:54] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U I tried creating the boot partition and all that and it wont work
[21:54] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U unless I'm doing something work in the process
[21:54] <netyyrrazqabbc> ActionParsnip, thx sir.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Did you make sure that your /boot/ partition was near the beginning of the drive?
[21:54] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: The question is not how to set or read the MAX value - the question is how to read the current size of the backlog
[21:55] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U I let ubuntu decide as I did not do anything extra
[21:55] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: That is the critical part of having a separate /boot/ partition for working around this BIOS bug.
[21:55] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U man this is crazy, this bug was not there before what caused this
[21:56] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Ubuntu's installer doesn't create a separate /boot/ partition by default, the only way to add one during install is via completely manual partitioning (or, as a side affect, possibly by configuring LVM).
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: netstat -an | grep -c -i SYN_RECV
[21:57] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: The bug was always there, you just weren't affected by it until your grub.cfg happened to be written farther into the drive than your BIOS can access.
[21:57] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[21:57] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U ok how do I use the LVM on 12.04 LTS
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: all I did was search the web...... took me what...30 seconds?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Don't aim for using LVM unless you really want LVM.
[21:57] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: that’s wonderful!
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: +1
[21:58] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U ok then what just go with "something else"
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: so, why couldn't you find that?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Are you planning to re-install Ubuntu?
[21:58] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: Dear friend, I also found http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12985/how-to-check-rx-ring-max-backlog-and-max-syn-backlog-size and it’s a good start. The problem is I hoped there is a more general solution. Because I try to figure out that for many ways.
[21:58] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U at this point I have no choice I have to re-install it
[21:59] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: Then yes. It's also possible to reconfigure an existing install to add a separate /boot/ partition, but it's usually a complicated and extremely long (in time, as you have to move a partition to the right) process.
[21:59] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: so my hope was there is something where the kernel tracks the current values - but it seems nothing like that exists
[21:59] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: You of course haven't lost any data, and if it's helpful to you I can help you boot your system quickly, without fixing the problem permanently.
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: its in netstat as its the status of the networking
[22:00] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U ok how do I know that the boot partition is at the beginning of the disk
[22:01] <sparticle_> is this a good place to ask a question about 70-persistent-net-rules on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: In most GUIs the partitions are shown graphically with left being closer to the beginning and right closer to the end.
[22:01] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: So your /boot/ partition should be the left most partition, and should be about 1 GiB large.
[22:01] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: sadly it’s a bit more complicate - I have the issue that the network `drops` random, but it could because of load, or out of sockets or backlog etc .. I just hoped there is a simple way to check all current limits vs there current values
[22:02] <chrisss123456> hey guys does anyone use Evolution?
[22:03] <metallic> I prefer thunderbird :D
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: is it a wireless interface?
[22:03] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U ok let me try that
[22:03] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U thanks
[22:03] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: no ;-) it’s a server - or let’s say several and they run LXC with a lot of containers
[22:03] <reisio> chrisss123456: some ones do
[22:03] <chrisss123456> metallic: I'm really not liking the way thunderbird handles things and want to switch to Evolution
[22:03] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: You're welcome.
[22:03] <chrisss123456> metallic: but i have a couple concerns on security, though i might be just a noob
[22:03] <Jordan_U> rangeles2276: And you just have to set the partition's mountpoint as "/boot/".
[22:04] <chrisss123456> reisio: do you know anything about it's security
[22:04] <chrisss123456> ?
[22:04] <metallic> chrisss123456, XDXD I am not that good I just find it easy to deal with it
[22:04] <reisio> chrisss123456: should be plenty secure, why?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: I see, we use zones at work instead :-)
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Is the installer creating a small /boot/ partition at the beginning of the drive for you?
[22:05] <sparticle_> is this a good place to ask a question about 70-persistent-net-rules on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[22:05] <chrisss123456> reisio: I'm sure, but im trying to configure it and the email uses STARTTLS but thats not an option for the outgoing mail, so its just not secured (?)
[22:05] <reisio> sparticle_: ask it and see
[22:05] <umoukun> sparticle_: why not
[22:05] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, i believe so
[22:05] <dmn123> ActionParsnip: sad think is - it worked well for month/years - and out of a sudden it started .. so might be an updated.. but not sure, yet ;/
[22:06] <reisio> chrisss123456: you realize that email is sent to random 3rd party servers, and is always insecure, yes?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> dmn123: id check to see if any updates made it happen
[22:06] <reisio> the only thing you can secure easily is your connection to where you're fetching email from
[22:06] <chrisss123456> reisio: fair enough.
[22:06] <reisio> which is not remotely the entire line of transmission
[22:06] <umoukun> what is the client?
[22:06] <reisio> use xmpp if you want secure, reliable electronic communication
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: OK. Please keep me updated on how this works out.
[22:07] <chrisss123456> reisio: thanks :) but what if its a company email from one employee to another?
[22:07] <sparticle_> OK thanks: I have just replaced a  physical server with a new one before first boot I removed 70-persistent-net rules as per forum advice. Expectation was that a new file would be created with the new Ethernet adaptor info etc. However all I have is a stub file that has no adapter info in it.
[22:07] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, i'll try to
[22:07] <reisio> chrisss123456: what if it is
[22:08] <chrisss123456> reisio: as in, sure its unsafe since youre sending it off to some other server, but what if its the "same" server?
[22:08] <umoukun> user: welcome from whonix
[22:09] <reisio> chrisss123456: then it doesn't matter whether you encrypt the connection or not
[22:09] <reisio> either way it basically doesn't matter
[22:10] <reisio> doesn't matter if you only encrypt part of the process with a remote server, doesn't matter if you encrypt while connecting to a server in the same building
[22:10] <liquidcandy> I'm considering a cheap new laptop. It would need to be under $350 out the door min 4 gb ram and 500gb (for ide drives) or 256 (for solid state). And absolutely most most critical no problems with ubuntu. No wireless or any other hardware problems. Can it be done? Any suggestions for specific one to get?
[22:10] <sparticle_> OK thanks: I have just replaced a  physical server with a new one before first boot I removed 70-persistent-net rules as per forum advice. Expectation was that a new file would be created with the new Ethernet adaptor info etc. However all I have is a stub file that has no adapter info in it. Is there a way to force Ubuntu to recreate the file with the etehrnet adaptor info?
[22:10] <chrisss123456> reisio: ok, but then what is the incentive for secure emails? just trying to understand
[22:10] <umoukun> liquidcandy: goto newegg and look for one?
[22:10] <reisio> liquidcandy: $350 with the ssd I doubt it, but the rest sure
[22:10] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, should i tell it to do auto security updates?
[22:10] <reisio> liquidcandy: with a 32gb or so ssd, potentially
[22:10] <umoukun> you can get one with an ssd for under a grand
[22:11] <reisio> chrisss123456: that's a good question
[22:11] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U can I use Gparted to create the partitions?
[22:11] <reisio> chrisss123456: false sense of security? :p
[22:11] <reisio> chrisss123456: all you're really protecting is your login, you see
[22:12] <chrisss123456> hahaha alright :) well anyway thanks for the help :)
[22:12] <f0ster> anyone know how I can start/stop or reset one of my network-manager connections from teh command line ?
[22:12] <reisio> chrisss123456: any data you actually send via an email is insecure
[22:12] <reisio> chrisss123456: so what you're protecting is the ability to impersonate yourself
[22:12] <chrisss123456> reisio: yes, so essentially the "asking the server for downloading the emails locally" but not actually sending anything
[22:12] <reisio> that is, the ability to send new messages, authentically, as yourself
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: I would say yes, though that's unrelated to your other problem.
[22:12] <reisio> (even though anyone can spoof your email address)
[22:12] <reisio> chrisss123456: yeah
[22:12] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, ok
[22:12] <reisio> which is really the less important thing to protect IMO
[22:13] <chrisss123456> reisio: cool, i get it now :) thanks a bunch!
[22:13] <reisio> I would want the actual sent/received messages to be confidential
[22:13] <reisio> and with email they almost never are
[22:13] <reisio> chrisss123456: and again, if it's a local email server, and you only access it locally, it's fairly pointless
[22:14] <reisio> unless your local network is massively insecure, but then you have larger problems
[22:14] <chrisss123456> yea fair point.
[22:14]  * reisio shrugs
[22:16] <sparticle_> Anyone?
[22:16] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[22:17] <sparticle_> Quesion posted earlier?
[22:17] <ikonia> saying anyone is pointless
[22:20] <sparticle_> OK thanks: I have just replaced a  physical server with a new one before first boot on new server I removed 70-persistent-net rules as per forum advice. Expectation was that a new file would be created with the new Ethernet adaptor info etc. However all I have is a stub file that has no adapter info in it. Is there a way to force Ubuntu to recreate the file with the etehrnet adaptor info?
[22:20] <ikonia> sparticle_: is it causing you a problem
[22:20] <ikonia> sparticle_: the file should get created when udev sees network adapters
[22:21] <sparticle_> Yes, ports seem to change form eth0 to eth1 on reboots
[22:21] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, do i want to install grub to master boot record?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Yes.
[22:21] <ikonia> sparticle_: how many network cards do you have
[22:21] <sparticle_> Integrated 2 ports
[22:22] <zteam> rangeles2276, you can use BootRepair this tool will repair most issues with grub automatically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:22] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, install is complete
[22:22] <lord_rob> Hi! I'm using debian sid. Is it possible to download PPA sources from launchpad when I've added a ppa repository? I get W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/thefanclub/grive-tools/ubuntu/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found  which is normal as sid is not an ubuntu version
[22:22] <liquidcandy> thx fellas. Any tips on what to look for or what to avoid when it comes to installing ubuntu easily? Specific brand? anything?
[22:23] <zteam> lord_rob, I don't think ppas will work with debian
[22:23] <ikonia> try sudo /lib/udev/write_net_rules eth0 eth1
[22:23] <ikonia> sparticle_: try sudo /lib/udev/write_net_rules eth0 eth1
[22:23] <ikonia> sparticle_: does that update the file ?
[22:23] <laputa> hi, anyone using upstart ?
[22:23] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, cannot display this video mode
[22:24] <ikonia> laputa: everyone who is running ubuntu is
[22:24] <laputa> i'm wondering what's the difference while running a command with exec and without exec in upstart
[22:24] <rww> lord_rob: Sounds like a bad idea. Regardless, we don't support Debian, ask #debian.
  I get missing $INTERFACE
[22:24] <ikonia> laputa: exec is like calling something while without exec runs it
[22:24] <liquidcandy> what about something they call a "scratch and dent" (refurbished) - stay away?
[22:24] <laputa> ikonia: yeah. haha. but i'm trying to write one.
[22:24] <ikonia> sparticle_: exactly what command did you run
[22:25] <sparticle_> sudo /lib/udev/write_net_rules eth0 eth1
[22:25] <ikonia> sparticle_: and it complained about missing interfaces ?
[22:25] <ikonia> sparticle_: please pastebin the output of "ifconfig -a"
[22:25] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U Ok I did what you said and it is installing the system, lets hope it boots
[22:26] <sparticle_> No it complained about mising a variable called INTERFACE
[22:26] <ikonia> sparticle_: yes, I know that
[22:26] <ikonia> sparticle_: hence "missing interfaces"
[22:26] <laputa> ikonia: oh. good point. so if i want to run a always-on service. i should use exec. otherwise it will block the upstart ?
[22:26] <ikonia> as interfaces are arguments
[22:26] <sparticle_> Indeed
[22:26] <ikonia> laputa: thats a good way to look at it
[22:27] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Finetundra
[22:27] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: ^ maybe ??
[22:27] <stefano> hi all
[22:27] <AR45> I have no idea why I still see tearing even after enabling nvidia 331 drivers
[22:28] <AR45> should I be using the nvidia-331-updates variant of the driver rather?
[22:30] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U yup same result as last time all I get is a blinking cursor
[22:30] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U no OS boot at all
[22:31] <rangeles2276> Jordan_U I gave the /boot partion 2048 of space
[22:31] <rangeles2276> that is about 2gb
  Any other ideas?
[22:33] <emacer> I have an NFS server on my LAN that I would like to be able to access from private LANs that are being created for testing purposes.  Anyone have any idea what the best way to bridge NFS traffic from the private LANs to the regular LAN would be?  I can't seem to export an NFS mount, and forwarding via iptables is tricky to get working
[22:33] <B0bsF1sh> Anyone have advice for troubleshooting a problem with Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS that happens once or twice per week? Symptoms: totally black screen, unable to access services over the network, unable to change to text console using control+alt+f1. Running under VirtualBox 4.2.0 r80737 Windows host with 2 GB RAM, 4 virtual CPUs headless, accessing console via VirtualBox RDP.
[22:33] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, won't let me boot to grub's menu
[22:33] <ikonia> sparticle_: please pastebin the output of "ifconfig -a" as I requested earlier
[22:34] <ikonia> sparticle_: if you run "sudo udevadm trigger" that should tell udev to re-populate it
[22:34] <ikonia> sparticle_: if you have an existing file you may need to do "sudo udevadm trigger --action=change "
[22:35] <ikonia> sparticle_: if it's missing a device you'll need "sudo udevadm trigger --action=add"
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: What happens when you try to boot?
[22:35] <OerHeks> B0bsF1sh, 4.3 is out? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[22:35] <B0bsF1sh> OerHeks: you would lean towards it being a VBox problem and not Ubuntu?
[22:36] <Finetundra> Jordan_U,says grub loading then cannot display
[22:36] <rathitlike> Using XRANDR --output HDMI-0 --SET OVERSCAN ON. Causes some weird screen corruption. Seems like scaling is crushing the screen
[22:36] <Jordan_U> If rangeles2276 comes back while I'm not here, please ask them if they installed grub's boot sector to the MBR, like "/dev/sda" or to a partition boot record, like "/dev/sda1". They should have installed to an MBR, *not* to a partition.
[22:36] <OerHeks> B0bsF1sh, i am not sure about windows platform, but worth a try.
 sudo udevadm trigger --action=add did the trick. I had a stub file with no content this command sorted it. Thank you.
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Is the "cannot display" an error message from your monitor?
[22:37] <pinky> hi
[22:37] <laputa> ikonia: hi, you know what could be reason that, i put exec /usr/bin/java ...   in upstart script, it doesnt work. but if i wrap the java program in a .sh file. then exec /path/start.sh , it works.
[22:37] <B0bsF1sh> is there a general list of things to do when troubleshooting a total lockup like that? if I can't even get a text console is there no recourse other than reboot?
[22:37] <laputa> ikonia: i'm trying to run solr as a service.
[22:37] <Jordan_U> laputa: What is the exact contents of the start.sh script?
[22:37] <ikonia> laputa: java requires a shell - upstart is not a shell, calling it from a shell script, I'm guessing is giving it an active shell to be called in
  can you ssh into the box
[22:38] <Jordan_U> ikonia: What do you mean by "java requires a shell"?
[22:38] <B0bsF1sh> I don't have SSH setup, but other network services aren't available. Do you have a guide for setting up SSH?
[22:39] <sparticle_> sudo apt-get install ssh
[22:39] <ikonia> Jordan_U: an active shell with enviornments such as classpath, path and various other things set
[22:39] <ikonia> the upstart path is different than the standard shell
[22:39] <B0bsF1sh> Oh this is interesting. it's actually happening right now
[22:39] <Jordan_U> ikonia: Thank you.
[22:39] <rathitlike> Using XRANDR --output HDMI-0 --SET OVERSCAN ON. Causes some weird screen corruption. Seems like scaling is crushing the screen
[22:40] <laputa> Jordan_U: ikonia: http://pastebin.com/ShEepQM3  solr.conf for upstart and start.sh are here. i comment out the exec /usr/bin/java
[22:40] <sparticle_> ikonia: thanks for your help, Ciao!
[22:42] <laputa> ikonia: hmmm. that make sense. i think java need something like JAVA_HOME, etc to run.
[22:43] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, it appears to be
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Do you have more than one OS in this computer?
[22:46] <Finetundra> i literally just bought the drive. no i do not, Jordan_U
[22:47] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: OK, then grub's menu is hidden by default. Try rebooting while holding shift to see if that gets you a grub menu. If it does, try booting in recovery mode (from the "Advanced options for Ubuntu..." menu entry).
[22:48] <B0bsF1sh> Sending ctrl+alt+del doesn't do anything, sending ACPI power button doesn't do anything. I'll install SSH and see if I can get to that next time
[22:49] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, cannot display video mode
[22:49] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'd like to re-install apache. My goal is to get rid of all faulty config files in one go and restore the defaults. However, removing the package apache2 did not remove anything else, /etc/apache2 is still there with all the junk I put in there when making my first steps with Apache
[22:49] <bennypr0fane> How can I get rid of the remains?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: OK. Hopefully you're currently at a grub menu and just can't see it.
[22:50] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, lets hope
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Try carefully pressing 'c', to get to a grub shell, then type "terminal_output console" and hit return.
[22:50] <bennypr0fane> p.s. I'm on 14.04
[22:50] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, how many times should i press 'c'
[22:51] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, one sec
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Exactly once. If you've already pressed it more than once press return so that you're at least starting a new command.
[22:51] <B0bsF1sh> What does it mean when I get this after executing sudo apt-get install ssh :
[22:51] <B0bsF1sh> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:51] <B0bsF1sh>  ssh : Depends: openssh-server
[22:51] <B0bsF1sh> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:52] <Jordan_U> B0bsF1sh: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[22:52] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | B0bsF1sh
[22:52] <bennypr0fane> B0bsF1sh, have you tried apt-get -f install?
[22:52] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: purge the package rather than just remove it
[22:53] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, is that still possible after I already removed it?
[22:53] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: you can but try. confirm current status with "dpkg -l | grep apache" you will see letters beside it to the left
[22:54] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, anyway I thought that I already did that by going "remove completely" in Synaptic. Isn't that the equivalent to apt-get purge?
[22:55] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: might be, don't use it myself.
[22:55] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, apache2-bin, -data, -doc are still installed
[22:55] <donvito> how to go from desktop to server ?
[22:56] <donvito> i want to remove the xfce and grup from my 14.04 and have just server edition
[22:56] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: so it might be worth running "sudo apt-get purge apache2*
[22:56] <krasnayarsk> How do I get the root prompt in the live cd?
[22:56] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, just did: "Package 'apache2' is not installed, so not removed
[22:56] <bennypr0fane> "
[22:56] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: you used the asterisk at the end yes?
[22:57] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, oops, no, didn't see that
[22:57] <bennypr0fane> dude, that's a LOT of packages
[22:58] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, i just thought of something, what if the integrated graphics are so bad that they can't display for ubuntu
[22:58] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: might be wise to pastebin them to check they're ok before you agree
[22:58] <ubuntuaddicted> i compiled a package from git and used checkinstall to make a .deb file but now I can't figure out how to remove the software it installed. Can someone help please
[22:58] <OerHeks> krasnayarsk, ctrl alt t
[22:59] <okchicken> I'm running MATE and I'm having a weird problem: my left touchpad button randomly stopped working. I think it ws after the last update
[22:59] <okchicken> does anybody have any suggestions?
[22:59] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, sorry, it's in german: http://pastie.org/9635815
[22:59] <krasnayarsk> Thanks OerHeks.
[22:59] <bennypr0fane> okchicken, suggestion: don't use Mate on Ubuntu ;-)
[22:59] <reisio> okchicken: doesn't sound so random, then
[23:00] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: That sounds very unlikely, I think that they're just configuring a video mode that your monitor doesn't support.
[23:00] <OerHeks> bennypr0fane, we have mate-desktop
[23:00] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: only ones i'd be concerned about are jitsi*, owncloud* and pdfsam* which i don't recognise
[23:00] <Finetundra> well, i've tried it on 2 moniters
[23:00] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: no worries i can read a little German ;)
[23:00] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, and I am. don't understand why it wants to remove those
[23:00] <bennypr0fane> in fact, I wann keep them
[23:01] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: ok, well you could manually remove the other ones then
[23:01] <okchicken> benny: haha, ok. But seriously, is there anyway to try reinstalling a driver, or checking for conflicts or whatever?
[23:02] <bennypr0fane> okchicken, is it the touchpad itself that's not working, or the buttons for clocking the mouse?
[23:02] <OerHeks> okchicken, you could try to boot an older kernel, as there was a kernel update recently
[23:02] <okchicken> benny: the left button only. Right one and touchpad works fine
[23:03] <bennypr0fane> okchicken, bcs IIRC, the default setting in Mate for the touchpad is to not accept tapping as a mouseclick
[23:03] <bennypr0fane> have you ckecked the settings?
[23:03] <okchicken> benny: Yeah, tapping didn't work at first. I was able to manually enable it (after my left button stopped working)
[23:04] <okchicken> benny: is there an easy way to boot the old kernal to try it out?
[23:04] <bennypr0fane> okchicken, no idea, sorry
[23:04] <okchicken> no problem, thanks
[23:04] <bennypr0fane> I mean I'm sure there is *some* way, but I can't tell you if it's easy
[23:05] <Finetundra> i'm back
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: No display > -> no grub menu ? .
[23:09] <bennypr0fane> anyone can help me with the command for removing multipple packages at once by listing them? do i have to put remove before each one?
[23:10] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: "sudo apt-get purge <package1> <package2> ..."
[23:10] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, no, it says that it can't display the video mode
[23:10] <hans_> hi
[23:11] <hans_> why nautilus opens every time whit hidden files
[23:11] <Finetundra> i'm gonna try something that'll take me a minute
[23:11] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, good so that works. Because I've seen like "sudo apt-get purge <package1> && sudo apt-get<package2> ...."
[23:11] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: hah, wherever you saw that was bad
[23:12] <bennypr0fane> hans_, sounds like you have it set to show hidden files
[23:12] <ashley01> I am curious: what reason would a person want to edit the linux kernel? Are there any benefits to learning how to do it?
[23:12] <daftykins> ashley01: better question for #linux
[23:12] <ashley01> ok
[23:12] <bennypr0fane> ashley01, you can write yr own drivers????
[23:12] <bennypr0fane> hahhaa
[23:12] <hans_> when i disable it next it shows it again
[23:12] <ashley01> oh fair enough
[23:13] <ashley01> I'm still learning C but I'm no where near writing my own drivers
[23:13] <ashley01> I would like to someday though, to help out with better drivers for linux
[23:13] <bennypr0fane> probably a long and wnding road, I'd guess...
[23:13] <emacer> drivers are easy
[23:13] <emacer> you need to know hardware for drivers, though; the programming part isn't too hard
[23:14] <B0bsF1sh> This answer helped me get ssh installed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/347280/ubuntu-12-04-and-openssh-server
[23:18] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, any idea why it wants to remove the java packages?
[23:21] <jeremy31> ashley01: keep working on it
[23:21] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: Did you try my suggestion? You need to hold shift during boot, then press "c" then type "terminal_output console".
[23:21] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: We can also change the grub configuration from a liveCD/USB.
[23:21] <bennypr0fane> I don't get it: http://pastie.org/9635853
[23:22] <bennypr0fane> I list the specific packages, and it wnats to remove all those other ones, what's up with that?
[23:24] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, great, now I went ahead and purged, but it's all still there...
[23:25] <bennypr0fane> so, this didn't help...
[23:31] <tropicflite> hi all. anyone else have ack-grep break on 14.10?
[23:32] <squinty> tropicflite:  14.10 discussion should be asked in #ubuntu+1  afaik
[23:33] <tropicflite> ah, thanks. have a good one!
[23:33] <kandinski> anybody here using the fonts-font-awesome package? It installs but I can't get it to render on either gimp or libreoffice. This is using Trusty.
[23:34] <Finetundra> Jordan_U, you there?
[23:35] <Finetundra> someone suggest to me a a gui for the minimal install
[23:35] <dmn123> I often see upstart-udev-bridge[25150]: Disconnected from Upstart in my syslog I’m unsure what it means or if I shoudl be worried
[23:36] <lucian> hey!
[23:36] <lucian> i have a question
[23:36] <tontre> hello all
[23:36] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: I run minimal with xfce .. xfce maybe somewhat dated now, not good support for GTK3 .
[23:38] <lucian> is a suggestion, really
[23:38] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, should i run "install xubuntu-desktop" or how would i install xfce
[23:38] <kandinski> same problem as in here: Wheezy/Stable)
[23:38] <kandinski> I rebooted into newest Debian-Sid-kernel 3.10-3 instead of the newest Liquorix-kernel that I normally use
[23:38] <kandinski> oops, sorry
[23:38] <ubuntuaddicted> how to I fix held broken packages? i'm trying to install libgles2-mesa-dev but it's not letting me
[23:39] <lucian> can the guys from ubuntu include mesa utils in the system itself?
[23:39] <kandinski> same problem as in here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25662067/font-awesome-doesnt-work-on-linux-mint-17
[23:39] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, right now i have a terminal gui
[23:40] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: "install xubuntu-desktop" get you all the bells and whistles, most things pre-configured. xfce4 is small, and light and fast .
[23:41] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, so would it be 'install xfce-desktop'
[23:41] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, or would i be better off w/ lxde or lxqt?
[23:43] <Rainbowhat> Hi, Exec getting permission denied on one of the Dir. Checked WHOAMI , got www-data. Changed owner of Dir & chmod still getting permission denied.
[23:44] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: no, top  install xfce4 -> sudo apt-get install xorg , sudo apt-get install xfce4 , then there is some additional configurtions to do at a later time, to start the desktop from the "install xfce4" -> startxfce4 <-.
[23:44] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: weird, can only suggest deleting it manually then.
[23:44] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: i'd still like to see dpkg's output though from the command i mentioned
[23:45] <lucian> how do i install xfce desktop on ubuntu 12.04
[23:45] <lucian> ?
[23:45] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: What you want for the desk top is relative to what you want. There is no best, just what works best for you. That said, I do like xfce4 .
[23:45] <Rainbowhat> Hi, Exec getting permission denied on one of the Dir. Checked WHOAMI , got www-data. Changed owner of Dir & chmod still getting permission denied. Owner of the directory root www-data with -rwxrwsrwx
[23:45] <enyc> lucian: is there a metapackage in package manager ?  xfce4-desktop or similar ?
[23:46] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, do you mean this one: dpkg -l | grep apache
[23:46] <Finetundra> how do i set what ehternet port my machine uses?
[23:46] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: correct, pastebin please
[23:47] <vitimiti> Bye
[23:47] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, i too like xfce, but i also need something that'll boot up from my regular monitor
[23:47] <lucian> i searched for it... it gives me a lot of things =)))
[23:47] <bennypr0fane> lucian I would try installing just xfce4
[23:48] <Finetundra> speaking of which, how do i set the resolution for grub?
[23:48] <AR45> Does anyone know how to add sublime text 3 commands to the terminal?
[23:48] <bennypr0fane> xfce4 is the metapackage
[23:48] <ubuntuaddicted> how do i get around these dependency issues? libgles2-mesa : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 10.1.3-0ubuntu0.2) but 10.2~git1402150730.1020d8~gd~s is to be installed
[23:48] <lucian> is there a terminal command for that?
[23:49] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: The install should find and set up a wired connection, you will not have a "Network Manager" .
[23:49] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: I set resolution for frub in grub's default file " /etc/default/grub " .
[23:49] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, that outputs nothing right now, zero chars
[23:49] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, well there are 2 ethernet ports but it doesn't seem to like either
[23:50] <bennypr0fane> lucian, sudo apt-get install xfce4   you mean?
[23:50] <lucian> yeah
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: I have 3, and I have set in 'eth1' from " /etc/network/interfaces " .
[23:51] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: oh, trailing * again
[23:51] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, same output
[23:51] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: actually no it should've been fine as is, hrmm
[23:52] <lucian> gotta love terminal =))))
[23:52] <laputa> hi, anyone knows is there any way to list all cronjobs will start in next 1 hours or any time can be specified ?
[23:53] <Finetundra> locked up so i had to reboot
[23:53] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, did I show this? http://pastie.org/9635927
[23:53] <lucian> so, after sudo apt-get install xfce4, anything else i need to know in order to get it fully functional?
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: # The resolution used on graphical terminal >>GRUB_GFXMODE=1600x900 // <- my setting.
[23:53] <bennypr0fane> it didn't delete the config directories that weren't empty
[23:54] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: looks like anything you added that put things in apache's paths prevented removal...
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, yes, but why? it seems so absurd
[23:54] <OerHeks> laputa, easy way is a gui sudo apt-get install gnome-schedule
[23:55] <Bashing-om> lucian: To start the desktop from the terminal -> startxfce4 <-.
[23:55] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, well my monitor doesn't seem to like the default so i'll have to set it around 1280x720 or something of the sort
[23:55] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: so you don't get angry at it for deleting your data.
[23:55] <RudyValencia> Hi, I'm using Xubuntu LTS 14.04 and I can't seem to record well with Audacity like I could on Windows. There's no noise cancellation and the recording skips. Any reason why that is?
[23:55] <bennypr0fane> daftykins, but I want it to delete my data, and I thought there was no way to say that more clearly than "purge"....
[23:55] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: the other programs you installed aren't bit and are packages, so i'd just remove the lot and be done with it. make backups if you want anything
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: Sounds like a good time to investigate the tool "xrandr" .. see -> man xrandr < -
[23:56] <bennypr0fane> "aren't big"?
[23:56] <daftykins> bennypr0fane: ugh yes but this is a different scenario, you could quite easily have been a user that comes in here angry that a purge removed files that weren't apache config, but are in your document root
[23:56] <daftykins> yes, big.
[23:57] <bennypr0fane> RudyValencia, might be because of the different sound server
[23:57] <RudyValencia> bennypr0fane: you mean pulseaudio?
[23:57] <ObrienDave> RudyValencia, set your source to default
[23:58] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, last time i used that it presented quite a fuss
[23:58] <bennypr0fane> RudyValencia, yes, or alsa, or jack. but those should be responsible only for playback i guess
[23:58] <Finetundra> also, i now can't get past grub without getting a blank black screen
[23:58] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: IF you are now booting to grub, from grub the grub command -> vbeinfo <- might be instructive - DO not want to burn up a monitor by overdriving it.
[23:59] <RudyValencia> ObrienDave: that's a lot better, thanks
[23:59] <Finetundra> Bashing-om, i think its actually displaying to low