live_ | Hi guys, not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice i do apologize if this is the wrong area just seeking some advice on first time Linux install | 12:07 |
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live_ | sorry the first part of the sentence is missing | 12:08 |
live_ | Not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice on a new Linux install | 12:09 |
jea | It is a place you can ask about it | 12:10 |
live_ | thanks appreciate it | 12:10 |
live_ | Basically first time installing Pinguy OS, have three primary partitions already for Windows 7 and plenty of free space for the install. I'm aware i am limited to 4 primary partitions and have to use an extended partition but when i use the advance option to add the extended partition i'm not sure or see an area that states "create extended partition" | 12:12 |
jea | I can't say I am all that familiar with Pinguy OS | 12:13 |
live_ | Ok no problem i was thinking as most distributions are based off Ubuntu i thought the installation would all be the same | 12:14 |
jea | Seems to be based on Ubuntu | 12:14 |
live_ | from the little i know it is | 12:14 |
jea | Is there an option to use the free space available? | 12:15 |
live_ | there is and it does offer options as in to set up a swap and root partition etc and another option in relation to mounting but no area that specifically states "extended partion" | 12:16 |
live_ | is the extension or file system "Ext4" meaning extended partition | 12:17 |
jea | Ext4 is the file system that will be used | 12:17 |
live_ | from what i could see it stated it was a logical partition but i thought you create logical partitions within the main extended partition | 12:18 |
jea | I have a feeling that the installer will make the partitions in the way that is needed, without you having to specify extended and logical specifically | 12:18 |
live_ | the first time i installed i chose the "alongside windows 7" basic option and i had issues with the grub loader, i did manage to get back into Windows 7 and checked how it was partitioned and it showed 5 primary partitions so i was thinking the auto install feature got it wrong and this affected or caused issues within the Grub boot loader | 12:20 |
jea | hmm, ok | 12:21 |
jea | What type of issues were you seeing with grub? | 12:21 |
live_ | i was hoping to leave the 3 primary windows 7 alone add an extended partition manually and install Pinguy that way thinking this will avoid errors during boot load. Could not load Windows 7 with grub | 12:22 |
live_ | I know Grub overwrites the Windows MBR and it is known to cause issues | 12:25 |
live_ | for dual boot systems | 12:25 |
jea | I haven't done dual booting for a while, but I didn't have any issues with Win7 booting at all | 12:28 |
live_ | I ran Linux Mint in a virtual box which is fine but felt a little slow | 12:30 |
live_ | i think the issue must be related to the 5 primary partitions the basic alongside install created well i hope lol | 12:31 |
live_ | i'm a newbie so really have no idea other than the little i have researched | 12:31 |
jea | Have you tried the process outlined in http://askubuntu.com/a/164161 ? | 12:34 |
live_ | Yeah i get a similar looking create partition box that sets the partition as logical, the mount point is left vacant for me to decide and i have no idea about what to use other than i think use "/" | 12:41 |
jea | yes, / would be required, seeing as that is the root partition (equivalent to C: on windows) | 12:42 |
live_ | and no idea about the beginning and end part what to do | 12:42 |
live_ | it has an install now button also but i wanted to make a data partition also | 12:43 |
live_ | can i do that later after the install and also create another partition that can be used by windows 7 | 12:43 |
jea | Yes, you could do it later | 12:44 |
live_ | So i'm guessing if i choose to install the operating system using the logical partition option it will automatically created an extended primary partition for it | 12:46 |
live_ | with a logical partition within a primary extension | 12:46 |
live_ | i was thinking the root system to load up will need to be primary that is why you have to make an extension | 12:47 |
live_ | i am probably wrong | 12:47 |
live_ | and no idea if it will automatically create a swap file | 12:48 |
jea | If you don't do manual partitioning, then it will create the swap partition, etc for you | 12:52 |
jea | if you do entirely manual, then you need to create them yourself | 12:52 |
live_ | yeah it created it automatically with the basic installer just not sure how to create each partition manually as it only offers a "install now" button | 12:54 |
jea | when you create the / partition, choose a size that leaves some free space, so you can create the rest | 12:59 |
live_ | ok no problem will give that a try, sorry for taking up so much time | 13:01 |
jea | that is alright | 13:02 |
live_ | oh before i leave it has an option to download 3rd party software to play mp3's etc do i really need to use that or does Ubuntu have build in mp3 player software | 13:05 |
jea | um, I can't quite remember if there is anything to do mp3s | 13:05 |
jea | I suspect you would have to install the other, because from memory mp3 requires a licence | 13:06 |
live_ | is that done through the software manager if i have to do it later | 13:06 |
live_ | thanks again for all your help just great to be moving away from Windows for the first time i had no idea that Linux has come so far very easy to use with a GUI | 13:07 |
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