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live_Hi guys, not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice i do apologize  if this is the wrong area just seeking some advice on first time Linux install12:07
live_sorry the first part of the sentence is missing12:08
live_Not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice on a new Linux install12:09
jeaIt is a place you can ask about it12:10
live_thanks appreciate it12:10
live_Basically first time installing Pinguy OS, have three primary partitions already for Windows 7 and plenty of free space for the install. I'm aware i am limited to 4 primary partitions and have to use an extended partition but when i use the advance option to add the extended partition i'm not sure or see an area that states "create extended partition"12:12
jeaI can't say I am all that familiar with Pinguy OS12:13
live_Ok no problem i was thinking as most distributions are based off Ubuntu i thought the installation would all be the same12:14
jeaSeems to be based on Ubuntu12:14
live_from the little i know it is12:14
jeaIs there an option to use the free space available?12:15
live_there is and it does offer options as in to set up a swap and root partition etc and another option in relation to mounting but no area that specifically states "extended partion"12:16
live_is the extension or file system "Ext4" meaning extended partition 12:17
jeaExt4 is the file system that will be used12:17
live_from what i could see it stated it was a logical partition but i thought you create logical partitions within the main extended partition12:18
jeaI have a feeling that the installer will make the partitions in the way that is needed, without you having to specify extended and logical specifically12:18
live_the first time i installed i chose the "alongside windows 7" basic option and i had issues with the grub loader, i did manage to get back into Windows 7 and checked how it was partitioned and it showed 5 primary partitions so i was thinking the auto install feature got it wrong and this affected or caused issues within the Grub boot loader12:20
jeahmm, ok12:21
jeaWhat type of issues were you seeing with grub?12:21
live_i was hoping to leave the 3 primary windows 7 alone add an extended partition manually and install Pinguy that way thinking this will avoid errors during boot load. Could not load Windows 7 with grub12:22
live_I know Grub overwrites the Windows MBR and it is known to cause issues12:25
live_for dual boot systems12:25
jeaI haven't done dual booting for a while, but I didn't have any issues with Win7 booting at all12:28
live_I ran Linux Mint in a virtual box which is fine but felt a little slow  12:30
live_i think the issue must be related to the 5 primary partitions the basic alongside install created well i hope lol12:31
live_i'm a newbie so really have no idea other than the little i have researched12:31
jeaHave you tried the process outlined in http://askubuntu.com/a/164161 ?12:34
live_Yeah i get a similar looking create partition box that sets the partition as logical, the mount point is left vacant for me to decide and i have no idea about what to use other than i think use "/"12:41
jeayes, / would be required, seeing as that is the root partition (equivalent to C: on windows)12:42
live_and no idea about the beginning and end part what to do12:42
live_it has an install now button also but i wanted to make a data partition also12:43
live_can i do that later after the install and also create another partition that can be used by windows 712:43
jeaYes, you could do it later12:44
live_So i'm guessing if i choose to install the operating system using the logical partition option it will automatically created an extended primary partition for it12:46
live_with a logical partition within a primary extension12:46
live_i was thinking the root system to load up will need to be primary that is why you have to make an extension12:47
live_i am probably wrong12:47
live_and no idea if it will automatically create a swap file12:48
jeaIf you don't do manual partitioning, then it will create the swap partition, etc for you12:52
jeaif you do entirely manual, then you need to create them yourself12:52
live_yeah it created it automatically with the basic installer just not sure how to create each partition manually as it only offers a "install now" button12:54
jeawhen you create the / partition, choose a size that leaves some free space, so you can create the rest12:59
live_ok no problem will give that a try, sorry for taking up so much time 13:01
jeathat is alright13:02
live_oh before i leave it has an option to download 3rd party software to play mp3's etc do i really need to use that or does Ubuntu have build in mp3 player software13:05
jeaum, I can't quite remember if there is anything to do mp3s13:05
jeaI suspect you would have to install the other, because from memory mp3 requires a licence13:06
live_is that done through the software manager if i have to do it later13:06
live_thanks again for all your help just great to be moving away from Windows for the first time i had no idea that Linux has come so far very easy to use with a GUI13:07

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