[12:07] <live_> Hi guys, not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice i do apologize  if this is the wrong area just seeking some advice on first time Linux install
[12:08] <live_> sorry the first part of the sentence is missing
[12:09] <live_> Not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice on a new Linux install
[12:10] <jea> It is a place you can ask about it
[12:10] <live_> thanks appreciate it
[12:12] <live_> Basically first time installing Pinguy OS, have three primary partitions already for Windows 7 and plenty of free space for the install. I'm aware i am limited to 4 primary partitions and have to use an extended partition but when i use the advance option to add the extended partition i'm not sure or see an area that states "create extended partition"
[12:13] <jea> I can't say I am all that familiar with Pinguy OS
[12:14] <live_> Ok no problem i was thinking as most distributions are based off Ubuntu i thought the installation would all be the same
[12:14] <jea> Seems to be based on Ubuntu
[12:14] <live_> from the little i know it is
[12:15] <jea> Is there an option to use the free space available?
[12:16] <live_> there is and it does offer options as in to set up a swap and root partition etc and another option in relation to mounting but no area that specifically states "extended partion"
[12:17] <live_> is the extension or file system "Ext4" meaning extended partition 
[12:17] <jea> Ext4 is the file system that will be used
[12:18] <live_> from what i could see it stated it was a logical partition but i thought you create logical partitions within the main extended partition
[12:18] <jea> I have a feeling that the installer will make the partitions in the way that is needed, without you having to specify extended and logical specifically
[12:20] <live_> the first time i installed i chose the "alongside windows 7" basic option and i had issues with the grub loader, i did manage to get back into Windows 7 and checked how it was partitioned and it showed 5 primary partitions so i was thinking the auto install feature got it wrong and this affected or caused issues within the Grub boot loader
[12:21] <jea> hmm, ok
[12:21] <jea> What type of issues were you seeing with grub?
[12:22] <live_> i was hoping to leave the 3 primary windows 7 alone add an extended partition manually and install Pinguy that way thinking this will avoid errors during boot load. Could not load Windows 7 with grub
[12:25] <live_> I know Grub overwrites the Windows MBR and it is known to cause issues
[12:25] <live_> for dual boot systems
[12:28] <jea> I haven't done dual booting for a while, but I didn't have any issues with Win7 booting at all
[12:30] <live_> I ran Linux Mint in a virtual box which is fine but felt a little slow  
[12:31] <live_> i think the issue must be related to the 5 primary partitions the basic alongside install created well i hope lol
[12:31] <live_> i'm a newbie so really have no idea other than the little i have researched
[12:34] <jea> Have you tried the process outlined in http://askubuntu.com/a/164161 ?
[12:41] <live_> Yeah i get a similar looking create partition box that sets the partition as logical, the mount point is left vacant for me to decide and i have no idea about what to use other than i think use "/"
[12:42] <jea> yes, / would be required, seeing as that is the root partition (equivalent to C: on windows)
[12:42] <live_> and no idea about the beginning and end part what to do
[12:43] <live_> it has an install now button also but i wanted to make a data partition also
[12:43] <live_> can i do that later after the install and also create another partition that can be used by windows 7
[12:44] <jea> Yes, you could do it later
[12:46] <live_> So i'm guessing if i choose to install the operating system using the logical partition option it will automatically created an extended primary partition for it
[12:46] <live_> with a logical partition within a primary extension
[12:47] <live_> i was thinking the root system to load up will need to be primary that is why you have to make an extension
[12:47] <live_> i am probably wrong
[12:48] <live_> and no idea if it will automatically create a swap file
[12:52] <jea> If you don't do manual partitioning, then it will create the swap partition, etc for you
[12:52] <jea> if you do entirely manual, then you need to create them yourself
[12:54] <live_> yeah it created it automatically with the basic installer just not sure how to create each partition manually as it only offers a "install now" button
[12:59] <jea> when you create the / partition, choose a size that leaves some free space, so you can create the rest
[13:01] <live_> ok no problem will give that a try, sorry for taking up so much time 
[13:02] <jea> that is alright
[13:05] <live_> oh before i leave it has an option to download 3rd party software to play mp3's etc do i really need to use that or does Ubuntu have build in mp3 player software
[13:05] <jea> um, I can't quite remember if there is anything to do mp3s
[13:06] <jea> I suspect you would have to install the other, because from memory mp3 requires a licence
[13:06] <live_> is that done through the software manager if i have to do it later
[13:07] <live_> thanks again for all your help just great to be moving away from Windows for the first time i had no idea that Linux has come so far very easy to use with a GUI