[12:07] Hi guys, not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice i do apologize if this is the wrong area just seeking some advice on first time Linux install [12:08] sorry the first part of the sentence is missing [12:09] Not sure if this is the correct area to ask for advice on a new Linux install [12:10] It is a place you can ask about it [12:10] thanks appreciate it [12:12] Basically first time installing Pinguy OS, have three primary partitions already for Windows 7 and plenty of free space for the install. I'm aware i am limited to 4 primary partitions and have to use an extended partition but when i use the advance option to add the extended partition i'm not sure or see an area that states "create extended partition" [12:13] I can't say I am all that familiar with Pinguy OS [12:14] Ok no problem i was thinking as most distributions are based off Ubuntu i thought the installation would all be the same [12:14] Seems to be based on Ubuntu [12:14] from the little i know it is [12:15] Is there an option to use the free space available? [12:16] there is and it does offer options as in to set up a swap and root partition etc and another option in relation to mounting but no area that specifically states "extended partion" [12:17] is the extension or file system "Ext4" meaning extended partition [12:17] Ext4 is the file system that will be used [12:18] from what i could see it stated it was a logical partition but i thought you create logical partitions within the main extended partition [12:18] I have a feeling that the installer will make the partitions in the way that is needed, without you having to specify extended and logical specifically [12:20] the first time i installed i chose the "alongside windows 7" basic option and i had issues with the grub loader, i did manage to get back into Windows 7 and checked how it was partitioned and it showed 5 primary partitions so i was thinking the auto install feature got it wrong and this affected or caused issues within the Grub boot loader [12:21] hmm, ok [12:21] What type of issues were you seeing with grub? [12:22] i was hoping to leave the 3 primary windows 7 alone add an extended partition manually and install Pinguy that way thinking this will avoid errors during boot load. Could not load Windows 7 with grub [12:25] I know Grub overwrites the Windows MBR and it is known to cause issues [12:25] for dual boot systems [12:28] I haven't done dual booting for a while, but I didn't have any issues with Win7 booting at all [12:30] I ran Linux Mint in a virtual box which is fine but felt a little slow [12:31] i think the issue must be related to the 5 primary partitions the basic alongside install created well i hope lol [12:31] i'm a newbie so really have no idea other than the little i have researched [12:34] Have you tried the process outlined in http://askubuntu.com/a/164161 ? [12:41] Yeah i get a similar looking create partition box that sets the partition as logical, the mount point is left vacant for me to decide and i have no idea about what to use other than i think use "/" [12:42] yes, / would be required, seeing as that is the root partition (equivalent to C: on windows) [12:42] and no idea about the beginning and end part what to do [12:43] it has an install now button also but i wanted to make a data partition also [12:43] can i do that later after the install and also create another partition that can be used by windows 7 [12:44] Yes, you could do it later [12:46] So i'm guessing if i choose to install the operating system using the logical partition option it will automatically created an extended primary partition for it [12:46] with a logical partition within a primary extension [12:47] i was thinking the root system to load up will need to be primary that is why you have to make an extension [12:47] i am probably wrong [12:48] and no idea if it will automatically create a swap file [12:52] If you don't do manual partitioning, then it will create the swap partition, etc for you [12:52] if you do entirely manual, then you need to create them yourself [12:54] yeah it created it automatically with the basic installer just not sure how to create each partition manually as it only offers a "install now" button [12:59] when you create the / partition, choose a size that leaves some free space, so you can create the rest [13:01] ok no problem will give that a try, sorry for taking up so much time [13:02] that is alright [13:05] oh before i leave it has an option to download 3rd party software to play mp3's etc do i really need to use that or does Ubuntu have build in mp3 player software [13:05] um, I can't quite remember if there is anything to do mp3s [13:06] I suspect you would have to install the other, because from memory mp3 requires a licence [13:06] is that done through the software manager if i have to do it later [13:07] thanks again for all your help just great to be moving away from Windows for the first time i had no idea that Linux has come so far very easy to use with a GUI