[01:57] <berglh> darkxst: i've been using ubuntu gnome and prior to that ubuntu running with gnome-shell for quite some time. i have a back ground in systems administration and been using linux for <5 years. I have 13 years industry experience, primarily based on ms server products and network consultancy. since working at the unversity of queensland, i've been more interested in developing my linux/bsd skillset and have dropped all ms os from my life. i've been doi
[01:57] <berglh> wow that was a lot bigger than i thought it would be
[02:05] <persisto> Hi, I have very limited programming experience I would love to help out with the Ubuntu-Gnome Project. This is a distribution I virtualize and use right now. I am not sure how much help I can be but I would love to help. I am not sure where to begin or how. I have never participated in an open source project before.
[02:09] <berglh> ^ what persisto said
[02:24] <persisto> lol
[02:24] <persisto> its dead here
[02:24] <persisto> could be the hoyur
[02:25] <persisto> *hour
[02:32] <ErichEickmeyer> darkxst: I just wanted to show you a guide that I put together/was featured on the Linux Action Show. I've seen people ask how to convert Ubuntu to Ubuntu GNOME, so this should help: http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/66657/switching-ubuntu-to-gnome-las-330/
[02:43] <berglh> persisto: i've been watching the channel for a while, it is sporadic, people are obviously doing useful things
[02:44] <berglh> patience brings glory and all that
[02:54] <darkxst> ErichEickmeyer, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^
[02:55] <darkxst> (does the same as tasksel, but in a single step ;) )
[02:55] <darkxst> (you still get prompted to select gdm of course)
[02:56] <darkxst> ErichEickmeyer, removing tasks is a bad bad idea
[03:00] <darkxst> berglh, persisto welcome!
[03:01] <ErichEickmeyer> darkxst: Except it worked and very well, might I add. I did a lot of research on it before I created the tutorial. I'm not some complete newbie; I know what i'm doing.
[03:01] <ErichEickmeyer> I did it several times, and it works flawlessly.
[03:03] <darkxst> ErichEickmeyer, installing ubuntu-gnome-task over ubuntu works well and is safe, but removing a task is dangerous
[03:04] <darkxst> it is possible that tasksel doesnt actually remove the task when deselecting ubuntu
[03:04] <ErichEickmeyer> darkxst: I checked, and it does, but it keeps anything needed for the ubuntu-gnome-desktop task.
[03:04] <ErichEickmeyer> It does remove Unity completely.
[03:04] <ErichEickmeyer> And cleanly.
[03:07] <ErichEickmeyer> We wouldn't have featured it if it broke systems.
[03:12] <darkxst> maybe it works in this instance, but last time we tried it out, there were packages missing
[03:15] <darkxst> try running `dpkg -l | grep ^ii` on a clean ubuntu GNOME install an a converted install then diff the two files ;0
[03:16] <darkxst> berglh, persisto, most of the technical work is debian packaging, bit of patching (mostly C) code.
[03:16] <darkxst> though I have to go out again now, will be back in a few hours
[05:11] <Noskcaj> berglh, welcome. Another Aussie in the ubuntu-gnome team
[05:12] <Noskcaj> Do you know any programming languages?
[05:49] <darkxst> Noskcaj, did you test out the games?
[05:58] <berglh> Noskcaj: I've been starting to learn c, can build software from source, could test stuff, looking to improve my c programming
[05:58] <berglh> anyway, off to get an MRI, kind of scary, bbl
[06:53] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I think i have copied everything across now (unless I missed something), except gnome-nibbles which seems to have broken keyboard input
[06:55] <Noskcaj> thanks, i'd only checked launching without looking broken on some of the stuff i've never used
[06:58] <darkxst> could you control the snake in nibbles?
[06:59] <Noskcaj> didn't run it, sorry. I'll look into it
[07:20] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I can control it fin
[07:20] <Noskcaj> *fine
[07:21] <darkxst> hmm odd, it worked now, but definitely didnt the first time I tried it
[07:31] <Noskcaj> interesting. Maybe a first time run bug? First tiem i ran from terminal it crashed, then worked fine after
[07:56] <darkxst> possible if it is migrating settings or what not