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db_devHi!  I've been looking into ubuntu touch and I am wondering if anyone has tried to port to a dragonboard 807402:08
db_devit's a basic snapdragon 800 series with adreno 33002:08
Mirvmzanetti: could you test the (possible&partial) PPA fix for bug #1357321, since you know the symptoms?04:54
ubot5bug 1357321 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "QNetworkAccessManager doesn't support roaming on Ubuntu" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135732104:54
Mirvlpotter: or is it not very useful to have the fix for 1) without the fix for 2)? or can the tester simply try removing libqgenericbearer.so for testing?04:55
lpotterboth are needed. but more work is needed on that dang plugin to get it to work properly.05:05
lpotterit hasn't really been updated in two/three years05:09
Mirvok.05:14
lotuspsychjewhy does downow not use the download folder for incomming files? can i change this?05:26
slvnHi !06:13
slvnI develop a native application for ubuntu touch and I still have two issues :06:14
slvn1/ is it possible to hide the "appmenu" (top status bar) in fullscreen ?? (or to know through MIR, the size of screen minus the appmenu)06:14
slvn2/ is it possible to force the app to start in Portait or Landscape06:15
slvnthanks for help...06:15
Mirvslvn: there might be more people around in a few hours, but anyway you might want to join #ubuntu-app-devel and present those questions there, as they are more directly suited over there06:34
slvnMirv, ok thanks !06:43
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mardympt: did you see my e-mail from yesterday, about the authorization dialog?07:33
mptmardy, ah yes, I started replying but didn’t finish07:34
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mardympt: thanks. Also, I need your feedback on bug 137286007:43
ubot5bug 1372860 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "[system-settings] Go to account settings after adding a google account" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137286007:43
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mardythostr_: hi! bug 1374394 is essentially the same as bug 1352251; I would suggest that you mark it as a duplicate and move the tags to 135225107:51
ubot5bug 1374394 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "When logged into YouTube scope the video aggregator some sometimes pops up the OA loading screen, then the results go blank" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137439407:51
ubot5bug 1352251 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Splash screen is shown as soon as QGuiApplication is instantiated" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135225107:51
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K1773Rhaving problems with updates. it just hangs and dosnt download/install anything at all. restarting dosnt help.07:58
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K1773Ralso having problems with SIM PIN, i no longer get the "Enter PIN" Button. its just always "Unknown" so i have to enter it with ofono-scripts.07:58
K1773Rim on devel07:59
K1773Rpopped up 1-2 days ago07:59
vitimitiHi08:11
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday and happy World Mental Health Day! :-D08:16
thostr_mardy: done08:16
mardythostr_: thanks08:18
mzanettiMirv: installing the ppa to see where we are08:36
Mirvmzanetti: thanks! try also that removing of the generic file.08:42
mzanettiyep08:43
mardympt: here's a nice question: if I create an Evernote account, and then the Evernote account plugin gets uninstalled, currently in OA we still show the account (but with no name or icon, since they went with the plugin)09:20
mardympt: should we hide the account from the UI, or should we show in some error state to inform the user that he needs to reinstall the plugin if he wants to get this account working?09:20
mptmardy, I’d just hide the account … If you’re uninstalling plugins you know what you’re doing09:21
mardympt: makes sense, thanks09:22
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popeylolz ubuntu-emulator... "Unknown command `start', did you mean `destroy'?"10:41
popeyUh. no.10:41
K1773Rhaving problems with updates. it just hangs and dosnt download/install anything at all. restarting dosnt help.10:54
K1773Ralso having problems with SIM PIN, i no longer get the "Enter PIN" Button. its just always "Unknown" so i have to enter it with ofono-scripts.$10:54
K1773Rim on devel10:54
dakerK1773R: you need to edit /var/lib/urfkill/saved-states and set WWAN soft=false , then restart your device11:01
mptkemmko1, do you have a screenshot/mockup handy of the HERE checkbox in the first-run setup?11:03
mptAlso, who are the engineers working on the location service?11:04
K1773Rdaker: it is already false11:05
mptlool, is it you? (You’re the only individual subscriber to location-service bug reports)11:05
dakerK1773R: is your device on flight mode ?11:05
K1773Rdaker: no its not11:05
mptHmm, the only location-service bugs I see assigned are assigned to tvoss11:06
dakerK1773R: for the updates, you can enable developer mode, then do : phablet-shell -> sudo -i to get root access11:07
dakerK1773R: then run $ system-image-cli -v11:07
kemmko1mpt:  yes11:07
kemmko1mpt:  will ping it to you11:08
mptow11:08
kemmko1mpt:  ow?11:08
mptSomething pinged me in the back. ;-)11:09
K1773Rdaker: ok, no errors. do you want the output?11:09
dakerK1773R: sure11:09
K1773Rdaker: http://pastebin.com/ycuprrYA11:10
dakerK1773R: ok, system-image-cli -i11:11
K1773Rdaker: http://pastebin.com/9dpjDMau11:12
dakerK1773R: uour device is already updated11:14
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dpmhey seb128, quick question: other than adding X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes and approving the template, is there anything else that is needed to get bug 1379754 fixed? It seems the upstream project already uses cmake to build a .pot, not sure if there is anything else that needs to be done in the package11:14
ubot5bug 1379754 in Indicator Display "Setup translations in Launchpad" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137975411:14
K1773Rdaker: in the system options at updates it shows the following updates "payui, webapp-gmail, calculator, gallery, file manager, camera". once i say update (no matter which one) it hangs and never downloads anything11:15
beunoK1773R, so11:16
beunothat's likely an expired session11:16
beunoa known bug11:16
beunolog into U1 again11:17
K1773Rbeuno: U1? ubuntu one?11:17
K1773Rafter closing the system settings and opening it again, it searches for updates again and i have to select which packages to update. tough nothing happens if i select something to update11:21
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beunoK1773R, yes, Ubuntu One11:30
beunogo to Online Accounts11:30
beunoremove it, add it again11:30
beunoor, go to the app scope11:30
beunoand try to install a new app, it should ask you to log back in, if you're in a new enough version11:30
K1773Rbeuno: thanks alot! worked :)11:31
beunoK1773R, gatox is fixing that bug for you, btw  :)11:37
K1773Rgatox: thanks too :P11:38
loolmpt: for the wizard, mterry did the work; for location-service in general tvoss and I11:41
seb128dpm, let me check, but I don't think so11:59
dpmok, thanks12:03
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mptlool, can you tell me what happens if someone checks “Allow apps to use your mobile and Wi-Fi networks to determine your location”, but does *not* check “Accept the HERE conditions to enable these services”? Do we then use Wi-Fi+cell at all, or just GPS?12:20
loolmpt: we would only use GPS12:26
mptlool, so if you don’t check the second checkbox, the first has no effect12:26
loolmpt: that's right12:27
loolmpt: this might change as we add providers in the future12:27
mptlool, what about if you check the second checkbox but not the first? Is it again only GPS used?12:27
loolmpt: the way HERE is integrated right now is not right; it shouldn't be specially handled; instead, we should use this general checkbox and we shoudl show the license from a click install12:27
loolmpt: hmm I'm not sure the generic checkbox affects behavior of HERE12:28
loolchecking with tvoss12:28
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brunogirinHi, my nexus4 on r243 has been unable to update for several days, when I do "sudo apt-get update" in the terminal, it tells me that it get a 404 on http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/utopic/universe/binary-armhf/Packages any idea how I can fix that?12:38
jgdxkenvandine, good morning!12:38
jgdxkenvandine, remember we talked about [1] and how urfkill could be the cause of the two times this failed? I think urfkill has fixed the bugs involved, so could you try again? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/cellular-data-not-preserved-after-fm-fixes-1376957/+merge/23758612:39
popeybrunogirin: I'd switch to the rtm channel, that image is ooooold12:40
brunogirinpopey: OK, how do I do that? do I just do ubuntu-device-flash --channel=rtm ?12:43
popeydo --list-channels12:43
popeyI'd use the rtm 14.09 one12:43
brunogirinpopey: so that would be ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 ?12:45
popeylooks good12:45
brunogirinpopey: thanks, doing that now; then I can do the nexus 7 too :)12:47
brunogirinpopey: it suddenly gives meaning to some of the discussions I saw on the mailing list that I didn't understand about the rtm channel...12:48
K1773Rif i change channels, what will be overwritten? ie, system.img or just some stuff and the other things arent being touched.12:50
brunogirinK1773R: I just did that and it kept all my contacts, messages, installed apps, etc12:57
popeyyeah, so long as you don't "--wipe" you'll be good12:59
K1773Reven things i installed with apt?12:59
ogra_no13:02
ogra_well13:04
ogra_the apt database will be wiped13:04
ogra_stuff might still be left around from former installed packages though13:05
K1773Rso i should remove the packages i installed and then change channels, afterwards reinstalling those packages? if so, what is the default list of packages so i know which to remove13:05
* ogra_ would just back up the homedir and do a wipe or bootstrap install 13:07
ogra_(and refrain from using apt if possible ... it just messes up things)13:08
kenvandinejgdx, sure13:14
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ChloeWolfieGirlI was just wondering, my Nexus 7, its still running ubuntu 14.10 (r243), is it recomended to move to RTM or should I have gotten an update, I see a lot of updates for gallery etc, but can't install them, they just wont download, and I was wondering how I could solve that on the Nexus713:28
loolmpt: so it's as I thought: the setting isn't implemented in HERE, but the plan is to honor it when we have more providers13:32
mptlool, so right now, HERE is our only provider, but it *ignores* whether you’ve checked the Wi-Fi/cell checkbox?13:33
loolmpt: yes13:34
mptSo if HERE isn’t used, the first checkbox does nothing, and if it is used, the first checkbox also does nothing13:34
loolmpt: yup13:34
ogra_ChloeWolfieGirl, the U1 account tokens were all re-set ... you might need to delete the account and newly add it on the device (there was a mail about that on the ubuntu-phone ML)13:34
ChloeWolfieGirlogra The apps are upgrading now, that you, I was worried that my version of Ubuntu Touch didn't have all the features and just wasn't upgrading to the latest version of Ubuntu Touch, thank you! ^^13:37
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mpt_lool, is there a bug report on HERE ignoring the setting?13:39
loolmpt_: I dont think so13:40
pmcgowanmpt_, what change is needed per https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-bluetooth/+bug/137728613:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1377286 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Update Indicator Title Strings" [Undecided,New]13:50
pmcgowanin settings?13:50
mpt_pmcgowan, as I said, changing the text of the “Notifications” screen13:51
mpt_It currently refers to the “Notification Centre”, and we don’t call anything by that name any more13:51
pmcgowanmpt_, ok sorry was not clear to me13:52
pmcgowanmpt_, settings already says Notifications13:52
pmcgowanso thats correct right?13:52
pmcgowanoh i see13:53
pmcgowanin the text13:53
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mptlool, so since the first checkbox does nothing, we’ll get rid of it :-)14:02
mptlool, now to your other point: When you said “we shou[ld] show the license from a click install”, how would that work given HERE is installed by default?14:02
kenvandinemterry, testing the wizard refresh silo, wizard keeps crashing14:03
mterrykenvandine, oh great14:03
loolmpt: we could special case installation of a click with license during first boot14:03
kenvandineand unity-system-compositor14:03
loolmpt: it's just that there is no way to deal with addition/removals of providers right now; it ought to be like for apps and scopes eventually14:03
kenvandinemterry, lets see if whoopsie uploads it and i'll get you the crash report14:03
loolperhaps with an app to enable/disable it14:03
kenvandinemterry, it crashes everything i hit continue on the first screen14:04
mterrykenvandine, ok that would be the language changing probably...14:05
kenvandinemterry, ok, 4th try i got through the wizard14:05
mterrykenvandine, I'll play with it and see what I can get14:05
kenvandinemterry, ok14:05
kenvandinei'll try to get you a link to the crash report14:05
mterrykenvandine, silo 008 for utopic, right?14:07
kenvandinemterry, yes14:07
mptlool, hmm, what criteria would make choice of location providers interesting to users?14:10
loolmpt: we might have one that sends data to the mozilla database, another one that is better in this or that conditions etc.14:12
mptlool, well, by “what criteria” I mean in what conditions :-)14:12
loolmpt: some might have better databases in this or that region for instance; or intrude more or less in your privacy14:13
loolmpt: also, the license acceptance is currently per user, so we'd want a per user view of the enabled providers eventually -- today the acceptance is per user but the provider is launched system wide14:13
mptOk, privacy vs. coverage is a tangible choice (though an unpleasant one)14:14
loolmpt: actually looking at my krillin settings in french right now and not sure where you mean the wifi and cell setting is? is that indicator, settings app or wizard?14:14
mptlool, it’s in the first-run setup … I was adapting it to System Settings, when I realized, “hang on, this looks a little redundant”14:15
loolmpt: let me check what this one does14:16
loolmpt: it seems the wording isn't great but that this turns on location overall14:19
loolmterry: do I understand correctly from the code that "Use your mobile network and Wi-Fi to work out where you are" actually turns location on / off globally?14:19
mterrylool, that does the same thing as the indicator toggle labeled "Location detection"14:20
loolmterry: right; so that's generally turning location on / off, including hardware GPS14:20
mptoh bother14:22
mterrylool, is there a better setting to toggle?14:23
kenvandineWellark, testing apneditor, it does activate the internet apn and it does work for data!14:23
kenvandineWellark, the mms context isn't showing as active though14:24
loolmterry: I think it's the wording which isn't good14:24
kenvandineand if i try to send an mms, the messaging-app tells me my sim is locked14:24
kenvandineWellark, ^^14:24
loolmterry: it suggests gsm / wifi positioning is being toggled when really location detection is being toggled14:24
loolmterry: you could set it on to use just the GPS hardware provider14:24
oSoMoNogra_, hey, I’m getting the messaging-app crashing consistently when launched (even across reboots), and the crash file in /var/crash/ doesn’t contain a core file, do you know how I can get one?14:24
kenvandineWellark, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8533224/14:25
looloSoMoN: maybe, ~root/.config/apport/settings can have a [main] section with unpackaged=True14:25
ogra_oSoMoN, hmm, apport/whoopsie should create one ... ask ev or bdmurray14:25
mptlool, mterry: So if you have that checkbox unchecked, and the HERE checkbox checked, it will use Wi-Fi and cell data but *not* GPS?14:25
mterrylool, maybe Design now intends it to toggle HERE and if it's on, to enable the T&C checkbox which would become a requirement before user presses Continue...  But Design didn't mention that, so I assumed it continued to do what it has always done14:25
looloSoMoN: or ~phablet14:25
loolnot sure14:26
kenvandinepmcgowan, can you test the apneditor in silo 20?14:26
mterrykemmko, ^14:26
mterrykemmko, we're talking about what the checkboxes on the Location OOBE page do14:26
mptmterry, I’ve been talking with kemmko about this, she’s a little busy right now :-)14:26
loolmpt: I dont think we will support enabling just HERE; hardware GPS will always be turned on when looking for a location -- unless location is disabled entirely14:27
mptok14:27
mptSo the choices should be: (a) no location detection, (b) GPS only, (c) GPS+HERE14:27
mterrympt, then do you know what the intention for those checkboxes was?14:27
mterryWe still can't enable HERE after the wizard, right?14:28
pmcgowankenvandine, yep in about 3014:28
tvossmpt, also: I would argue that we should rename GPS -> satellite-based positioning to capture other networks like GLONASS14:29
kenvandinepmcgowan, thx14:29
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mptmterry, I do not, and I would rather that there was just one checkbox, but those three choices require more than one checkbox14:30
mterrykenvandine, you said the crash was reliablish?14:30
mterrykenvandine, tried twice and it worked, will keep at it14:30
kenvandinevery14:30
kenvandinetook me the 4th try to get through it14:30
dobeympt: what aobut GPS+wifi, but not with HERE?14:30
kenvandinemterry, image 27614:30
mterrympt, it does seem like user wants a "make location work like I expect" button14:30
mpttvoss, true (and the same will happen with “Cellular” -> “Mobile” eventually), but right now, I think {people who understand the term “GPS”} >> {people who understand any other accurate term}14:31
tvossmterry, I would argue that's the equivalent of: Enable network-based positioning, including a description of the potential privacy implications14:31
tvossmpt, fair point14:32
mptdobey, as with GLONASS, if/when that becomes an issue, we can change the text/UI then :-)14:32
dobeympt: well my understanding of the current code, is that it is an issue now :)14:32
mptdobey, in the code, yes. In providers that are available to install, not as far as I know.14:33
loolmterry: +114:33
loolmpt, tvoss: ANyway isn't this setting about whether apps get access to location at all?14:34
loolso it could be labelled "Allow apps to get my location"14:34
tvosslool, nope, that's what the trust-store prompt is for14:34
mptheh14:34
dobeympt: is HERE available on anything other than krillin?14:34
mptHas anyone tested whether trust-store just goes “NOPE” if this setting is turned off?14:34
mptOr whether it puts up a prompt that has no effect?14:35
mterrykenvandine, I'm on 276+silo 00814:35
looltvoss: that's how it's worded in the settings14:35
looltvoss: under privacy14:35
kenvandinemterry, dunno... want the crash files?14:35
mterrykenvandine, do you actually switch language or just go through the language screen?14:35
looltvoss: I'm not speaking per app, I mean the global one14:35
kenvandinemterry, no, not switching14:35
kenvandinejust clicking continue crashed it14:36
kenvandineand crashed unity-system-compositor14:36
mterrykenvandine, !  really14:36
mptdobey, you’re asking the wrong person there … I see the checkbox on Nexus, but that doesn’t mean the code exists14:37
kenvandinemterry, i even rebooted several times14:37
mptlool, tvoss: Your confusion is understandable. Probably the UI should mention that you’ll be prompted for each app14:37
mterrykenvandine, alright, tried 5 times so far.  Whatever is happening just doesn't seem to mind my mako14:38
mterrykenvandine, do you have a sim card in?14:38
looldobey: it's available on mako, yes14:38
kenvandinemterry, no14:38
mterrykenvandine, nor do i...14:38
dobeympt: right. and even though i've never accepted the HERE TOS on my nexus5, and gps doesn't actually work, it still does wifi match14:38
looldobey: quality is not necessarily the same on both as that depends on the modem and wifi drivers14:38
mptdobey, that’s a bug then14:40
dobeylool: i'm concerned about this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service/+bug/137848014:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1378480 in location-service (Ubuntu) "Location detection insists on being turned on" [Undecided,New]14:40
looldobey: the indicator state is known broken14:40
looldobey: HERE location will honor the setting quite hard, but can only be set during wizard right now14:40
loolotherwise, location is currently always on AIUI14:41
dobeylool: it's not just the indicator. it is turned on again in system settings after i reboot, every time i turn it off14:41
looldobey: sure, I mean the setting overall14:41
nik90|Lunchcharles: ping14:41
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kenvandinejgdx, ok... i can still reproduce the cellular issue when toggling FM14:42
kenvandinejgdx, but i noticed something14:42
kenvandinewhen i enable FM and quickly close the indicator14:42
kenvandinei see the selector switch from 2g to off14:42
dobeylool: yes, and i mean i don't want wifi based location turned on ever. only ever gps when i do turn it on. and when i turn it off, i want it to stay off, and not be leaking my location to whatever service it's getting the network ip resolution from14:42
loolmpt: sounds like we need to update the wording in the various places; the number of settings and their function seems ok, it's just the wording which is not too clear14:43
kenvandinebefore it actually goes to FM14:43
looldobey: if you never accepted HERE terms, it wont ever be on14:43
kenvandineso when i disable FM, it goes back to off14:43
mptlool, the reason I got involved in this in the first place is bug 137532214:43
dobeylool: but it is14:43
ubot5bug 1375322 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[Security & Privacy/Wizard] Should be possible to accept HERE T&Cs after running through the wizard " [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137532214:43
kenvandineso something is switching the tech pref to off while enabling FM14:43
jgdxkenvandine, I saw that too, but it came back. What rev are you on?14:44
kenvandine9514:45
kenvandinertm14:45
mterrykenvandine, so yeah if you can get me the crash files I may be able to figure something out14:45
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kenvandinejgdx, it's actually failing more reliably now that it did the other day14:46
kemmkomterry:  mpt: on it! and I think we have a solution14:46
mptkenvandine, I’m sorry this is taking so long, I just dipped into it and got my foot covered in tar14:46
kemmkomterry:  mpt: we will combine the checkbox into one14:48
kemmkomterry:  mpt: maybe not14:50
kenvandinempt, i see that :)14:53
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jgdxkenvandine, well, that's something14:58
jgdxkenvandine, I'll do some more testing. Thanks again.15:00
kenvandinejgdx, it's weird, i think it has to do with whatever is changing the selector15:00
kenvandinei guess a signal from ofono?15:00
jgdxkenvandine, you see the single sim ui, so it could be that the online sim went away (!present) and you see selector for the offline sim.15:01
jgdxkenvandine, you checked list-modems?15:01
kenvandineah, i am testing it with just the one sim in the second slot15:01
jgdxkenvandine, right, I haven't been doing that. I've been testing with two sims, both unlocked.15:02
kenvandinejgdx, confirmed, list-modems doesn't show it as off15:05
kenvandinejust the UI15:05
jgdxkenvandine, ConnectionManager.Powered? There's a couple of Powered.15:05
jgdxand that's great! More data15:05
kenvandinejgdx, wait... i don't see ConnectionManager15:06
kenvandinejgdx, oh.. now i see it :)15:07
kenvandinePowered = 015:07
kenvandineso no...15:07
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jgdxkenvandine, so the ui is correct (even though it might have disabled it)15:08
* jgdx tests using one sim in ril1 and hopes to repro15:21
rigvedhi15:23
rigvedwhen installing ubuntu touch on nexus 7, what is the recommended channel?15:24
rigvedutopic or devel15:24
jgdxkenvandine, repro'd on first go..15:24
kenvandinejgdx, good... i guess :)15:24
rigvedwould devel automatically point to the next release (codename v) when it's released?15:26
ogra_rigved, yes15:26
rigvedawesome15:26
rigvedthanks15:26
ogra_utopic is a dead end ...15:26
rigvedcool15:27
jgdxkenvandine, it's gold.15:27
kenvandinemterry, http://people.canonical.com/~kenvandine/_usr_bin_system-settings-wizard.32011.crash15:28
kenvandinemterry, http://people.canonical.com/~kenvandine/_usr_sbin_unity-system-compositor.0.crash15:28
mterrykenvandine, perfect...15:29
mterrykenvandine, I assume the USC crash is real one and wizard is follow-on15:29
mterrykenvandine, still haven't been able to reproduce.  I tried going back and forth on that page too...15:29
kenvandine:(15:31
mterrykenvandine, let's talk versions...  I get "warning: core file may not match specified executable file." for both of those files15:34
kenvandinemterry, interesting!15:35
mterrykenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8533621/15:35
mterrykenvandine, I would assume that if we have same packages, we could share core files15:36
kenvandinemterry, indeed... unfortunately i've switched to silo 20...15:36
mterrykenvandine, curses!15:36
kenvandinei thought the crash file included versions...15:37
kenvandinemterry, compositor version is the same15:42
kenvandinejust reinstalled from the silo15:42
kenvandinetesting15:42
mterrykenvandine, oh maybe they do have versions!  sorry15:42
mterrykenvandine, didn't even think to check  :(15:42
mptlool, mterry: We’re text-wrangling, and have a question. Is the Nokia HERE data anonymized?15:43
mterrykenvandine, actually I don't see a version in the unpacked crash file15:43
kenvandineyeah, i checked15:43
mterrympt, I myself have no idea15:43
kenvandinewhich is odd15:43
kenvandinemterry, ok... wizard just worked without crashing15:43
mptmterry, do you know where we can find out?15:43
mterrykenvandine, yeah version of the package and all deps would be super useful15:43
mterrympt, lool is probably the right person for that question.  My only interaction with HERE has been checkboxes15:44
kenvandinemterry, i know i must have had the right version though15:44
loolmpt: we dont send them the full id of the device15:44
kenvandinebecause on the 4th try, when it worked... i saw the new UI15:44
loolmpt: but we do provide them with some unique id15:44
mterrykenvandine, well USC was crashing15:44
mterrykenvandine, I don't think the wizard had the bug15:45
loolmpt: I guess they require it for counting purposes15:45
mterrykenvandine, did you have other packages?  Other testing silos installed?15:45
kenvandinemterry, i don't think so15:45
kenvandinemterry, and it had taken ages to get to the wizard before15:46
kenvandinequick now15:46
kenvandineboom15:46
kenvandinecrashed again :)15:47
mterrykenvandine, herm15:47
mterrykenvandine, ah!15:47
loolmpt: but no phone number or imei, so can't link back to you15:47
mterrygood?15:47
kenvandine3rd try15:47
mptThanks loicm15:47
mpterr, thanks lool15:47
kenvandinemterry, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8533697/15:48
mterrykenvandine, ok can I have those crash files too...?  I want to see if they give me same warning message15:49
kenvandinemterry, ok15:49
mterrykenvandine, we don't have debug symbol packages built from silos I assume.  Not sure how to make use of that crash package.  USC I can get ddeb for though15:50
kenvandinemterry, ok, same urls15:50
kenvandinemterry, we don't15:50
mterrykenvandine, I'm troubled by differing ease of reproduction15:52
tedgrsalveti, FYI, I accidentally killed your test, but it's on its way back: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-sound/ricardos-role-test/+merge/23800615:52
rsalvetitedg: oh, cool, thanks15:57
jgdxkenvandine, so, there's a difference in what happens in slot #1 and slot #216:03
mterrykenvandine, you only get this with the silo?16:05
jgdxkenvandine, when flight mode is activated, slot 2's ConnectionManager tells us that Powered is set to false. I think it should not.16:05
mterrykenvandine, like...  you can't reproduce without getting silo 8?16:05
jgdxabeato, ^ any ideas?16:05
abeatojgdx, if flight mode is set there is no connectionmanager interface16:07
jgdxabeato, for ril_0 there ain't, but for ril_1 ofono somehow produces a propertychanged signal.16:08
mterrykenvandine, for the USC crash, looks like something in mirserver.  Digging.  For the wiz crash, I get "/var/crash/ken/wiz/CoreDump is truncated: expected core file size >= 184496128, found: 4259840."16:08
abeatojgdx, what property changes?16:09
jgdxabeato, ConnectionManager.Powered16:09
abeatojgdx, so when flight mode is set you get a signal saying ConnectionManager.Powered is false?16:10
jgdxabeato, just for ril_1, yes16:10
jgdxabeato, krillin16:11
abeatojgdx, weird that is just for ril_116:11
abeatojgdx, I guess you can open a bug so we can investigate that16:12
mterrykenvandine, is there a bug for this yet?  I have a mirserver stacktrace at least16:12
jgdxabeato, sure. Thanks!16:12
abeatonp16:12
jgdxabeato, what project do you think is appropriate?16:12
abeatoofono16:12
jgdxk16:13
mterrykenvandine, which theoretically is a bug / should be fixed regardless of silo16:13
brunogirinI'm trying to move my nexus 7 to the rtm channel but when I try to do that I get "Failed to locate latest image information": does it mean there's no rtm channel for flo?16:14
* mterry files bug16:14
dobeyhmm16:15
dobeylatest devel-proposed image is suddenly telling me the sim is locked when i try to send an sms; my sim has never been locked. what the heck?16:15
dobeyrebooting doesn't help either, and i can't even check my voicemail16:24
mterrykenvandine, filed bug 1379848 -- but looking at the diff for that branch, I'm guessing the changes to ubuntu-system-settings-wizard-set-lang.conf are causing this -- can you comment out the two new lines and try again?16:26
ubot5bug 1379848 in mir (Ubuntu) "Crash in mir::compositor::BufferQueue::give_buffer_to_client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137984816:26
mterrykenvandine, that might give clues.  anpok in #ubuntu-mir had a guess that the crash might be an already-fixed bug16:27
mterryanpok, is that fix you showed me in silo 003?  kenvandine, if so, might also be worth trying both silos16:31
mterrykenvandine, seemingly the crash has to do with a closing app, and since we restart some Mir clients between those two pages of the wizard, sounds plausible16:31
mterry*"seemingly the fixed bug has to do with a closing app"16:32
mterrykenvandine, I am going to go grab lunch, will be back on later.  Leave comments for me in that bug I filed16:33
mterrysorry to rely on you for this, but I can't reproduce for some reason  :(16:33
dobeydoes nobody else have problems with sim card on image 274?16:33
dobeyor 276?16:35
charlesnik90, pong16:35
kenvandinemterry, will do16:35
loolstgraber: hmm latest system-image update fails for me on mako: when I reboot it's still available for update; where I can see debug?16:35
nik90charles: hey,16:37
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nik90charles: actually nevermind, I thought I had something to ask, but cannot remember what it was16:38
sil2100bfiller: ping!16:38
sil2100bfiller: hey! Do you know if those dialer-app test failures we mentioned earlier have been resolved?16:38
loolstgraber: ok, managed to cat last_log before recovery automatically reapplied update and rebooted; it said: rm: can't stat 'b'system/usr/s16:39
loolstgraber: with a logn list of pycache files16:39
bfillersil2100: they are caused by powerd bug16:39
bfillersil2100: screen going black during the tests16:39
loolanyone facing issues updating to latest image?16:39
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bfillersil2100: https://bugs.launchpad.net/powerd/+bug/137801216:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1378012 in powerd "[krillin only] screen goes black immediately when pressing the Call button in dialer" [Critical,In progress]16:40
loolstgraber: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8534036/16:41
loolI'm reflashing now16:41
anpokkenvandine: no it is not in 0.8 afaik16:42
kenvandineanpok, you mean silo 3?16:43
dobeylool: yes, 275 and 276 have been failing for numerous people on mako. i just replied to a mail on ubuntu-phone about it stating i have the same issue, and that on 276 i can no longer SMS/call, as it thinks my unlocked SIM is locked somehow16:43
dobeyand i really need my phone :-/16:43
anpokkenvandine: yes16:45
looldobey: so reflashing didn't help?16:45
dobeylool: i'm reflashing my mako now with ubuntu-device-flash. the SIM problem is on my nexus5 which i use as my actual phone.16:47
sergiusensdobey: I logged a bug for that16:47
sergiusensdobey: bug #137983616:47
ubot5bug 1379836 in telepathy-ofono (Ubuntu) "dialer and messaging app say pin locked when it isn't on mako" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137983616:47
sergiusenslool: ^16:47
dobeysergiusens: oh ok, so it happens for you too16:48
sergiusensdobey: yes, and I guess everyone16:48
sergiusensdobey: only working well on krillin16:49
dobeyhrmm16:49
sergiusensdobey: the telepathy-ofono is just my first guess as it had the last changes16:49
charlesnik90: :-D16:54
dobeysergiusens: how do you get the lock status from ofono?16:54
sergiusensdobey: list-modems shows it16:55
dobeysergiusens: looking at the diff, i think telepathy-ofono is indeed at fault17:01
mptkenvandine, <https://launchpadlibrarian.net/187010904/location.phone.png> go go go17:06
ogra_mpt, but why is it 5:54PM ?17:07
mptogra_, you are the first person ever to ask that question. On every wireframe I’ve ever drawn that includes the time somewhere, it’s the time when I started or finished the wireframe.17:08
ogra_heh17:08
popeythats boring.17:09
popeyyou should have said it was the time the myans predicted the end of the world or something17:09
popeyi would have believed you17:09
kenvandinempt, thx!17:09
mptpopey, true, but at least it’s more varied than putting 9:41 AM on every one17:13
popeytrue dat17:13
davmor2I'm confused why is using GPS only less accurate it's slower sure but not less accurate it's the most accurate thing for location surely :D17:13
mptwat17:14
mptdavmor2, mainly because at any time, any GPS satellite your phone is using is at least 22,200 km away, usually more, while Wi-Fi and cell networks are several orders of magnitude closer17:16
mptAnd while the positions of Wi-Fi networks are rarely known exactly, they can be calculated over time by comparing them with cell towers and GPS satellites which are17:17
davmor2mpt: but gps is accurate to like metres, the thing here gives us is agps which makes a guess as to where you are to give the gps a rough position so it can more accurately pin point you faster.  gps 15minutes to pinpoint, agps about 7 seconds17:18
davmor2mpt: it's a speed thing rather than accuracy I guess is my point17:19
mptdavmor2, right. So at any length of time, from the moment when the phone starts trying to figure out where you are, GPS + Wi-Fi + cell will give you a more accurate result than GPS alone.17:22
mptAfter 15 minutes they’ll be about the same. :-)17:22
dobeysergiusens: so yeah, definitely telepathy-ofono, as installing the previous build fixes it17:30
dobeysergiusens: just that one .deb17:30
mterrykenvandine, heyo!  Back from lunch17:32
kenvandinehey mterry17:33
kenvandinethat fix isn't in silo 317:33
kenvandinebut before i heard that, i added silo 3 and messed myself up :)17:34
kenvandinehad to reflash17:34
mterrykenvandine, sorry bro17:34
kenvandinemterry, still want me to revert those 2 changes?17:34
kenvandineto the .conf17:34
mterrykenvandine, just as a testing mechanism, yeah17:34
mterrykenvandine, if it *is* that bug, seems like there's some oddities around Mir clients coming and going17:34
mterrykenvandine, and those two lines start new Mir clients right after closing them17:35
mterrykenvandine, so I could believe it stresses that bug17:35
mterryanpok, is there a way to easily test that crash fix patch?17:35
kenvandinemterry, which lines?17:36
kenvandinehaving trouble finding it in the launchpad diff17:36
kenvandinewith the po updates :)17:36
mterrykenvandine, it's right at the bottom of the diff17:36
tedgSaviq, Are you working the conflict in silo 13?17:36
mterrykenvandine, the lines that start indicators and maliit-server17:36
kenvandineoh17:36
kenvandineso small i missed it :)17:37
mterrykenvandine, I assume you have not seen this crash without this silo.  So stopping the indicators and maliit-server don't seem to exercise the problem17:37
mterrykenvandine, but maybe starting them up does17:37
mterrykenvandine, thank you for being my guinea pig17:37
kenvandinemterry, i haven't17:38
kenvandinebut... i don't run the wizard as often as i should :)17:38
mptkenvandine, specification updated: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Location?action=diff&rev2=11&rev1=10>17:38
kenvandinempt, thx17:38
kenvandinemterry, no crash first try17:39
* kenvandine reboots17:39
kenvandinemterry, again... rebooting17:41
kenvandinemterry, again... rebooting17:42
kenvandinelets see if it works 4 times in a row, then uncomment those lines17:42
kenvandinemterry, 4 times!17:43
* kenvandine uncomments17:43
mterrykenvandine, ...  I think those changes are both silly and from my testing rather than real changes needed....17:44
mterrykenvandine, you'll notice in wizard/Utils/system.cpp, the only place where we seem to call set-lang, we already run those two lines17:44
mterrymanually17:44
kenvandinemterry, worked once with the lines uncommented17:45
* kenvandine tries again17:46
mterryheh17:46
mterrykenvandine, regardless of your testing, I'm ready to drop the lines.  If that also avoids this crash that's a huge bonus17:47
mptkenvandine, I tweaked the spec again to say use a page stack for the T&C, not a dialog17:48
mptI’m not sure SDK dialogs are ready for that kind of stress17:48
kenvandinempt, i appreciate that :)17:49
kenvandinemterry, well 3 times without crashing after uncommenting17:50
mterrykenvandine, so...17:50
mterrykenvandine, huh17:50
mterrykenvandine, well... like I said, I want to drop the lines anyway17:50
kenvandineseems to be somewhat unreliably reproducable17:50
mterrykenvandine, but now I'm not sure if that actually would help the crash17:51
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kenvandinemterry, ok... 4th try it crashed17:51
* mterry high fives ken17:51
kenvandinenot sure that proves anything :)17:51
kenvandineonly tried 4 times without the lines :)17:52
mterrykenvandine, well it proves that lines being present is at least partly bad17:52
mterrykenvandine, test more without lines...?17:52
kenvandinethe trick is to ensure the keyboard and all works well without them right?17:52
mterrykenvandine, yeah and wifi page -- but guaranteed they do17:52
mterrykenvandine, because we already have those same lines elsewhere17:52
mterrykenvandine, so what we are doing with the lines is emitting indicator-services-start twice and trying to start maliit-server twice17:53
kenvandinewhich should be harmless... i'd think17:53
mterrykenvandine, right...  you'd think so.  upstart should prevent the problem.  Unless something that triggers off those is a task17:54
mterrylet me check17:54
kenvandinei guess tickles mir the wrong way...17:54
mterryYeah.. that's a great point.  upstart should not be racy at all17:55
mterrykenvandine, but maybe the delay that upstart introduces as it ends set-lang (before we start everything again) avoids exercising this Mir problem.  So it might just be a timing issue of when we start the services?17:56
mterryNo, no tasks that trigger of those events17:56
mterrySo not a "starting jobs twice" issue I think17:56
kenvandineweird, perhaps it really is completely unrelated17:56
kenvandinemterry, 4 more times with the lines commented out, no crash17:57
mterrykenvandine, my only guess is that the difference in timing that upstart introduces as it ends the job is avoiding tickling Mir weirdly17:58
mterrykenvandine, not much of a timing gap to hang our hats on though17:58
mterrykenvandine, I would be curious to see if that Mir patch fixes the crash -- would give me more confidence that we won't hit this in future17:59
mterrykenvandine, but at least without the lines, my branch won't make the problem *worse*17:59
mterrykenvandine, I've already updated the branch17:59
kenvandinemterry, ok, i've run through it 6 times now without the lines18:00
mterrykenvandine, such a razor-thin timing difference may also explain why I haven't seen it yet18:00
kenvandinetedg, what's going on with silo 13?18:00
tedgkenvandine, Saviq threw some extra branches in there, and they conflict.18:01
tedgHoping he's going to fix that here soon.18:01
kenvandinetedg, i'll check back with you after silo 8 builds, see how it's going...18:01
kenvandineif you are still delayed, maybe i can slide it in front of you :)18:02
tedgkenvandine, K, might work out.18:02
kenvandinei'll build it just in case :)18:02
kenvandinethx18:02
* kenvandine really needs to eat... bbiab18:02
mterrykenvandine, rebuilding with the lines gone?18:02
kenvandinemterry, yeah18:02
mterrykenvandine, go eat, sorry!  ;)18:02
kenvandineit has rev 107718:03
Wellarkkenvandine: is your sim locked?18:09
kenvandineWellark, nope18:10
Wellarksounds like a bug in messaging-app or nuntium18:10
Wellarkthe context looks just fine18:10
kenvandineWellark, the context isn't active18:10
kenvandinebut it's checked in the UI18:11
Wellarkkenvandine: it's only activated when you actually try to send or receive mms18:11
kenvandineoh... so Active = 0 doesn't really mean anything?18:11
Wellarkso for mms context we can't use the "Active" property18:11
Wellarkcorrect. for mms18:11
kenvandineok18:11
Wellarkonly for Internet18:11
kenvandinepat__, ^^18:11
Wellarkkenvandine: so, can we land?18:12
Wellark:)18:12
Wellarkplease18:12
kenvandineWellark, did you see pat__'s comment on the MP?18:12
Wellarknope18:12
mterrykenvandine, I'm going to go be wifi-slow for a while, but will be back on IRC, and ready to help with any more weirdness with the silo18:12
Wellarkthere is more?18:12
kenvandinehe noted the button text doesn't match the design18:12
kenvandineand some more comments18:12
kenvandineWellark, we still have other silos in the queue to land first, but it might mean seb128 can land it on monday :)18:13
kenvandineor at least get it ready for QA verification18:13
* kenvandine really needs to stop looking at the screen and fix some food :)18:14
kenvandinebbiaf18:14
Wellarkkenvandine: are you able to activate the custom apn even on t-mobile+18:14
Wellark?18:14
kenvandinefor internet yes18:14
kenvandineworks18:14
kenvandinejust mms didn't work18:15
kenvandinepat__ had a similar problem with att18:15
pat__right18:16
pat__Wellark, do all carriers support separate apns for internet and mms? seems they all expect one here18:16
Wellarkpat__: should work for all18:17
Wellarkbut you could check from awe, sergiusens18:17
pat__Wellark, sure doesnt seem to will ask them18:19
Wellarkpat__: replied to your comments in the MP18:20
pat__Wellark, thanks, yes I added new valid apns but it always reverted to the one it started with18:22
Wellarkpat__: at least the contexts look valid18:23
Wellarkso we might have problems with some other component18:23
pat__Wellark, I recall there was some logic in NM or ofono that always looped through them even if you said use this one18:25
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danwesthi all, trying to reflash my nexus4 to android. adb finds device but flash-all.sh hangs at '< waiting for device >'18:31
danwestany ideas?18:31
nhainesdanwest: you need to be at the bootloader screen.18:32
danwestnhaines, k, will give it a try18:33
danwestworking now, thought last time I did this the script was able to reboot to bootloader for me18:34
nhainesNo, the script doesn't do that.18:34
nhainesAt least, it hasn't for the last three years I've been using it.  :)18:35
nhainesGlad it's working now!  It's always good news when there's a simple fix.  :)18:35
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Wellarkpat__ kenvandine : you saw "sim locked" for messaging app: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-ofono/+bug/137983618:51
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379836 in telepathy-ofono (Ubuntu) "dialer and messaging app say pin locked when it isn't on mako" [Critical,Confirmed]18:52
Wellarkwhen trying the MMS contexts18:52
Wellarkwas that on mako?18:52
kenvandineWellark, it was18:53
kenvandineso maybe unrelated18:53
kenvandinetedg, so still waiting on silo 13?19:06
tedgkenvandine, Yup19:07
kenvandineOMG19:07
kenvandinewizard crashed again...19:07
tedgkenvandine, Quick take his staff!19:08
kenvandinei do not know how many more times i can reboot and run through the wizard before i scream19:11
kenvandinesomehow this has to be tedg's fault, i just know it19:12
* tedg wonders if we should tell kenvandine that it is actually a test to see how many times he can run through the wizard before he screams19:13
tedgEh, maybe next week.19:13
Wellarkkenvandine: what's the issue?19:13
kenvandinetedg, i suspected so19:13
kenvandineWellark, wizard crashing... or rather unity-system-compositor19:14
kenvandinemterry, it crashed with the latest...19:14
Wellarkkenvandine: yikes..19:14
kenvandinemterry, i'm now testing what's in utopic... maybe it's completely unrelated to your branch19:15
kenvandinemterry, i'm going to run through this wizard without your branch until i scream or it crashes19:15
sil2100bfiller: thanks for the info! (sorry for answering only now)19:24
stgraberlool: that looks like an invalid remove list as it'd be generated by the python3 version of system-image...19:25
Wellarkkenvandine, pat__ . so can we land the apn editor?19:39
pat__Wellark, I am ok to land it19:40
kenvandineWellark, that'll take to long and block tedg's landing19:40
kenvandinewhile we get qa verification19:40
kenvandinei think the wizard crash is bug 135441219:41
ubot5bug 1354412 in qtubuntu (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash crashed with SIGABRT in raise() while running first boot on flo" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135441219:41
Wellarkkenvandine: ok, but no code changes required anymore?19:41
Wellarkjust scheduling, right?19:42
kenvandineWellark, i'll top approve it19:42
kenvandinewe'll need to rebuild the silo after tedg's stuff lands and do another test ourselves19:42
kenvandinethen it'll be up to the QA team19:42
kenvandinei'm confident mterry's wizard change is doing something to tickle this crasher in unity-system-compositor that the old wizard wasn't doing19:44
Wellarkkenvandine: ok, thanks19:44
kenvandinei ran through the wizard 20 times... no crash19:44
kenvandinewith the wizard refresh branch, crashed on 2nd try19:44
kenvandineWellark, make sure the test plan has enough info for QA to verify, it's a tricky thing to test19:45
kenvandineso don't assume anything19:45
kenvandineWellark, and it's easy to think it doesn't work19:47
kenvandinekgunn, i see you dropped the rtm tag from bug 135441219:47
ubot5bug 1354412 in qtubuntu (Ubuntu) "unity8-dash crashed with SIGABRT in raise() while running first boot on flo" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135441219:47
kenvandinekgunn, i think that might be the crasher we're seeing in mterry's wizard-refresh-take-6 branch19:48
kenvandinemterry!19:48
mterrykenvandine, hello again!19:48
kenvandinemterry, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8535064/19:48
kenvandinemterry, still crashes...19:48
mterrykenvandine, I have janked together a series of routers such that my internet works well again19:48
kenvandineand i confirmed it's a regression19:48
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kenvandine20 times through the wizard without your branch19:49
kenvandineno crashes19:49
Wellarkkenvandine: will update the test plan with all of the painful details on monday morning19:49
kenvandineWellark, thanks!19:49
kenvandineWellark, i won't be here... but seb128 will be handling landings19:49
Wellarkkenvandine: ok. have a good weekend!19:52
mterrykenvandine, and with the branch, even without those two lines, it crashes?19:52
mterrykenvandine, so those two lines were a red herring?19:52
mterrykenvandine, sorry timed out19:53
mterrykenvandine, last thing I sent was:19:53
mterry<mterry> kenvandine, and with the branch, even without those two lines, it crashes?19:53
mterry kenvandine, so those two lines were a red herring?19:53
kenvandinemterry, yeah, red herring19:57
kenvandinemterry, see the wizard log i sent pastebin19:58
mterrykenvandine, I see the pastebin, but it's what I'd expect from USC crashing and wizard coming down as a result19:58
kenvandinemterry, your branch changes some font sizes19:59
kenvandinespecifically fonts that were small19:59
kenvandineno longer small19:59
kenvandinemaybe that's triggering it?19:59
kenvandineat that point in the startup19:59
kenvandineeach time it crashes, it starts with that19:59
kenvandineThis plugin does not support createPlatformSharedGraphicsBuffer for cacheId: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family/Ubuntu-L.ttf 25 DF!20:00
kenvandinemterry, 3 crashes that i've looked at the log after crashing and that was the first line where things start looking bad20:01
mterrykenvandine, and you don't see that warning without my branch?20:01
kenvandinemterry, actually i didn't look :)20:01
mterryThat output *might* just happen to occur at the same time as the trigger for the crash does20:01
kenvandinegoes right into exceptions after that20:01
* kenvandine tries20:01
mterrykenvandine, it's just that all those exceptions deal with no longer being able to talk to the Mir server20:02
kenvandinemterry, so might be a wild goose chase :)20:02
mterrykenvandine, well let's see from a good run...20:02
mterryanpok, poke again about testing the fix for bug 1376324 -- is there any way to easily get a mirserver deb with that patch?20:03
ubot5bug 1376324 in mir (Ubuntu) "/usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor:*** Error in `unity-system-compositor': free(): invalid pointer: ADDR ***" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137632420:03
kenvandinemterry, oh... it just crashed with the utopic version!20:04
kenvandinewtf!20:04
kenvandinei tried 20 times to make it crash!20:04
* kenvandine cries20:04
mterrykenvandine, make *sure* you have the utopic version maybe?20:04
mterrykenvandine, but my branch makes the crash more likely?20:05
kenvandineconfirmed20:05
kenvandineseems so20:05
mterrykenvandine, can you get a non-crashing run with utopic and see if you have the font message at least?  let's see how related that is20:06
kenvandineyeah20:06
* mterry supposes I could do that too... since that's the only kind of run I can do20:06
kenvandineonce it crashes, it keeps crashing until i reboot20:06
kenvandinein fact... it never shows the wizard again20:07
kenvandinejust goes to black screen, logo spinning, black screen, etc20:07
kenvandinemterry, ok, confirmed20:07
mterrykenvandine, I see that font warning on startup for me20:07
kenvandinei see that message20:08
kenvandineonce the compositor crashes, it just keeps blowing chunks :)20:08
kenvandinemterry, could it have anything to do with the device state?20:09
mterrykenvandine, that would make sense because it can't render.  upstart might try to restart wizard, but it just can't connect no matter how hard it tries20:09
mterrykenvandine, device state?20:09
kenvandineit just crashed 3 out of 4 tries with the utopic version20:10
mterrykenvandine, and even without those two lines, it's more reproducable with the silo?20:10
kenvandinebut i ran that 20 times before!20:10
mterrykenvandine, do you have other makos?20:10
kenvandinelike the reboot isn't flushing something in memory, etc20:10
kenvandinenope20:10
kenvandineand you can't reproduce it20:10
mterrykenvandine, I wonder if we could get a third mako opinion -- I wonder if your device is more susceptible20:11
mterrykgunn, you around and fancy free?20:11
mterryi.e. not busy?20:11
mterrykenvandine, other thing to try is to compile Mir with that patch20:11
kenvandinemterry, now that i've reproduced it without your branch20:12
mterrykenvandine, maybe put its branch in the silo?  Kind of a long shot20:12
kenvandinei feel better approving this20:12
mterrykenvandine, because we're not 100% sure it's the same crash20:12
mterrykenvandine, fair20:12
kenvandineyeah20:12
kenvandinebut it clearly can happen without your branch20:12
kenvandineand reliably now....20:12
mterrykenvandine, yeah I just don't want my branch to make it 2x as likely to crash20:12
kenvandinecrashed 4 out of 6 times now20:12
mterrykenvandine, but reproducability seems all over the place20:12
kenvandinewith utopic version20:12
mterrykenvandine, has anyone from QA tried the branch?  They will before it lands in RTM, right?20:13
kenvandineyeah20:13
kenvandinethey will20:13
kenvandinethat is20:13
kenvandinelet me get it that far :)20:13
kenvandineready for qa verification in rtm :)20:13
kenvandinetedg, ok... i'm going to slide this in front of you :)20:13
mterrykenvandine, maybe they will see or not see the crash20:17
mterrykenvandine, I'm comfortable approving from my side, just because I can't reproduce.  And I can't see anything in my branch that *should* make it more likely to crash20:17
mterrykenvandine, but before it hits RTM I'd like a third tester at least20:17
mterrykenvandine, ahem, another timeout20:17
mterrykenvandine, last I heard from you was "with utopic version"20:17
kenvandineha20:17
mterrykenvandine, I said a bunch of stuff about being happy on my side with the silo, but being more comfortable with a third tester before it lands in RTM at least20:18
kenvandinemterry, i just told tedg i was slipping this in front of his20:18
kenvandinemterry, i saw all that20:18
mterryk20:18
kenvandinemterry, published in utopic20:18
kenvandineand building in rtm silo 6 now20:18
mterrykenvandine, thanks!  Glad the scare was nothing terrible20:18
mterrykenvandine, well it it terrible.  But at least not due to this silo20:18
kenvandinemterry, yeah... wish it was more reliable...20:19
kenvandinetedg, how close are you to being ready to rebuild ?20:19
mterrykenvandine, I *really* hope it's just your awful machine.  That seems a little too good to be true though20:19
kenvandinetedg, wondering if i should merge/clean before it publishes to release :)20:19
kenvandinemterry, yeah... seems odd20:19
kenvandinemterry, can you give it a test for rtm?20:22
mterrykenvandine, yeah let me refresh my krillin20:23
kenvandinepat__, is your mako rtm?20:24
pat__kenvandine, yes20:24
kenvandinepat__, can you test the wizard in rtm silo 6?20:25
kgunnmterry: just checking in, what's up?20:25
kenvandinerun through it a few times to make sure it doesn't crash :)20:25
pat__kenvandine, can I run it on krillin?20:25
mterrykgunn, we wanted a tester for a silo that was giving us inconsistent results20:25
mterrykgunn, but we're tentatively going ahead if you don't have time.  But if you do, that would be nice as well20:25
kenvandinepat__, mterry and i are testing it on krillin20:25
kenvandinei wanted a mako tester20:25
kenvandinepat__, i did hit some crashes on mako for utopic20:25
kenvandinebut very unreliably20:26
mterrykgunn, ah kenvandine got a third tester too20:26
kgunnwhich silo ?  i assume on mako ^20:26
mterrykgunn, on mako, silo 00820:26
kenvandineand i ultimately did manager to reproduce it without the silo20:26
kgunnwhat specifically to test ? AP test? or manual ?20:26
kenvandinekgunn, utopic silo 820:26
kenvandinekgunn, wizard, manually20:26
mterrykgunn, manual.  kenvandine was seeing some crashes when going through the wizard20:26
mterrykgunn, but only inconsistently.  And the crasher also happens on utopic without the silo20:26
mterrykgunn, but the fear was that the silo makes it worse20:27
kenvandinekgunn, it took me lots of tries to get it to crash without the silo20:27
mterrykgunn, but I can't get the crash at all, so we wanted to see if kenvandine's mako is cursed20:27
kenvandinebut once it crashed... it happened more often20:27
kgunnany particular part of the wizard ?20:27
kenvandinesee if you get to the second step :)20:28
kenvandinekgunn, don't go all the way through it20:28
kenvandineif you get to the second step20:28
kenvandinereboot and see if it crashes20:28
kgunnack20:28
kgunni typically don't touch the wizard until i've updated20:28
kenvandineit only crashes on the first continue click20:28
kgunnon purpose20:28
kenvandinehaha :)20:28
kenvandineyeah, i don't run it enough20:28
kenvandinei bet i have run it 50 times today though :)20:29
kgunnyeah, i always fear wizard breaking...so i kinda stalk it on testing20:29
kenvandinemterry, 4 times on krillin, no crash20:30
* pat__ installed and testing20:30
pat__kenvandine, so just the first continue?20:30
kenvandinepat__, when you hit the second step, just adb reboot20:30
kenvandinepat__, yeah20:30
kenvandinedo it a few times20:30
pat__worked first time20:30
kenvandinemterry, 5 times good20:30
mterrykenvandine, still downloading20:31
kenvandinemterry, you need to upgrade your piece of string :)20:31
mterrykenvandine, I have been having weird problems all week20:31
mterrykenvandine, I took to just working from starbucks20:31
kenvandinea couple weeks ago some contractors cut the cable line working on my neighbors house... they patched it together and didn't tell anyone20:31
kenvandinefor 3 days it was wonky as hell20:32
kenvandineand finally TWC came out and found what they had done20:32
kenvandineaffected my whole damn street20:32
kenvandinemterry, btw... the wizard looks awesome!20:33
mterrykenvandine, :)  yay20:33
* kenvandine should stop bitching about the crashing and compliment nice work :)20:33
pat__kenvandine, does this effect indicator-location? thought code was in settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/137532220:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1375322 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[Security & Privacy/Wizard] Should be possible to accept HERE T&Cs after running through the wizard " [Critical,In progress]20:34
kenvandinepat__, yes20:34
pat__kenvandine, it does, ok20:34
kenvandinepat__, because of the changes mpt made20:34
pat__worked 3 times20:34
kenvandinethey are making changes in the indicator too20:34
pat__I see20:35
kenvandinepat__, speaking of that... since i'm out for a few days... maybe someone else can finish that up?20:35
mterrykenvandine, yeah it's a bummer the Location page is already obsolete before this branch lands20:35
pat__4 times20:35
kenvandinepat__, my branch adds a toggle to accept the T&C and stuff... it's rough though20:36
pat__mterry, did he change the wizard? I thought it was just additional stuff20:36
pat__kenvandine, ok will pass it to jonas I guess20:36
kenvandinepat__, thanks :)20:36
pat__or await your return20:36
pat__:)20:36
kenvandinepat__, i wanted to finish that before vacation... but designs...20:36
pat__kenvandine, no crash 5 attempts20:36
kenvandinepat__, or that ;)20:36
kenvandinepat__, thanks.. you can stop :)20:37
kenvandine10 times for me20:37
mterrypat__, I don't know where design landed yet, they were discussing how to reword that page today20:37
kenvandinei'm stopping20:37
kenvandinei suspect the wording will change20:37
anpokmterry: well .. grab 0.8 and merge the fix .. should apply cleanly20:37
anpokmterry: i can give it a try..20:37
mterryanpok, ok good to know20:37
mterryanpok, sometimes Mir patches require rebuilds of lots of stuff -- that wouldn't be the case here?  (no abi changes?)20:38
mterryI saw some headers change, didn't know how public they were20:38
kenvandinemterry, i marked rtm silo 6 as tested, just needs qa verification now20:40
anpokmterry: yeah just internal changes.. no abi or api breakage20:41
mterrykenvandine, ok actually testing myself now  ;)20:42
mterrykenvandine, these buttons in the wizard could use haptic feedback20:43
mterrykenvandine, worked 5 times20:46
kenvandinewoot!20:46
kenvandinemy mako is angry...20:46
kenvandinethat's it...20:46
kenvandinei have no plans of running the wizard again until after vacation20:47
kenvandine:)20:47
tedgkenvandine, Sorry, ran an errand. I'm really blocked, so I don't know when. Go ahead.20:48
kenvandinetedg, i already went ahead :)20:48
kenvandine30m in proposed already, so i should be able to merge and clean soon20:48
mterrykenvandine, but you're so good at it now20:49
kenvandinemterry, ha20:49
kenvandinei just wish we used your dialpad UI instead of the OSK in other places!20:50
kenvandineso much nicer20:50
kenvandinewe need that to be a standard component :)20:50
anpokmterry: do you need help with anything related to that patch?20:50
anpok will be off soon20:51
mterryanpok, no thank you.  I think we decided my branch made that crash no more likely than it was before, so we just went ahead with it20:51
anpokok20:51
mterryanpok, thanks though20:51
mterry:)20:51
ajalkaneanyone know what's the problem... I'm trying to run an application from SDK in the device, but QtCreator gives "Please attach your device". It's attached. I just enabled developer mode with PIN.20:54
ajalkaneI assume this has something to do with the newish adb restrictions20:55
kgunncurious if anyones noticing a stall of the bluez install on dist-upgrade20:59
kgunn....totally stuck had to reboot20:59
kgunnkenvandine: so without even touching wizard...i gotta crash on mako21:02
kgunnjust after updating...but note, the dist-upgrade was weird, stalled out at bluez21:02
kgunnand had to sudo dpkg --configure -a21:03
kgunnto complete21:03
kgunnlooks like crash due to u-s-c & libc call21:06
chrisckgunn: i had exactly the same issue with bluez21:11
chriscbut I didn't reboot, I killed apt after waiting a while21:13
kenvandinetedg, system-settings merged, so you're good whenever you do a rebuild21:15
kenvandinetedg, thanks!21:15
kenvandinetime for a mini-vacation... see ya'll thursday!21:15
tedgkenvandine, Cool, have fun!21:15
bmatusiakanybody here testing ubuntu-devel-proposed?21:35
bmatusiakon nexus 421:36
jgdxbmatusiak, I have been.21:37
bmatusiakjgdx,21:39
bmatusiakhave did you get a sim lock?21:39
jgdxbmatusiak, System Settings -> Privacy and Security -> SIM Pin21:46
ajalkaneI'm on Ubuntu 14.04, trying to run application and getting "module "QtQuick" version 2.3 is not installed". What should I install? I have the SDK ppa21:49
ajalkaneWait a sec, maybe I don't. Some funny guy seems to have commented out my ubuntu-sdk-team-ppa-trusty.list21:51
ajalkaneWait a sec 2, I do have the trusty repo in illogical file enabled. So it should be okay.21:54
bmatusiakjgdx, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-ofono/+bug/137983622:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1379836 in telepathy-ofono (Ubuntu) "dialer and messaging app show unlocked pin as locked" [Critical,Confirmed]22:05
bmatusiakthis is the problem im having22:05
bmatusiakso far i like it :P23:15
bmatusiakgreat work guys !23:16
pdxwebdevCan ubuntu touch do url protocol handlers to launch an app?23:25

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