[02:08] Hi! I've been looking into ubuntu touch and I am wondering if anyone has tried to port to a dragonboard 8074 [02:08] it's a basic snapdragon 800 series with adreno 330 [04:54] mzanetti: could you test the (possible&partial) PPA fix for bug #1357321, since you know the symptoms? [04:54] bug 1357321 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "QNetworkAccessManager doesn't support roaming on Ubuntu" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357321 [04:55] lpotter: or is it not very useful to have the fix for 1) without the fix for 2)? or can the tester simply try removing libqgenericbearer.so for testing? [05:05] both are needed. but more work is needed on that dang plugin to get it to work properly. [05:09] it hasn't really been updated in two/three years [05:14] ok. [05:26] why does downow not use the download folder for incomming files? can i change this? [06:13] Hi ! [06:14] I develop a native application for ubuntu touch and I still have two issues : [06:14] 1/ is it possible to hide the "appmenu" (top status bar) in fullscreen ?? (or to know through MIR, the size of screen minus the appmenu) [06:15] 2/ is it possible to force the app to start in Portait or Landscape [06:15] thanks for help... [06:34] slvn: there might be more people around in a few hours, but anyway you might want to join #ubuntu-app-devel and present those questions there, as they are more directly suited over there [06:43] Mirv, ok thanks ! === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk [07:33] mpt: did you see my e-mail from yesterday, about the authorization dialog? [07:34] mardy, ah yes, I started replying but didn’t finish === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [07:43] mpt: thanks. Also, I need your feedback on bug 1372860 [07:43] bug 1372860 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "[system-settings] Go to account settings after adding a google account" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1372860 === dpm_ is now known as dpm [07:51] thostr_: hi! bug 1374394 is essentially the same as bug 1352251; I would suggest that you mark it as a duplicate and move the tags to 1352251 [07:51] bug 1374394 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "When logged into YouTube scope the video aggregator some sometimes pops up the OA loading screen, then the results go blank" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374394 [07:51] bug 1352251 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Splash screen is shown as soon as QGuiApplication is instantiated" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352251 === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk [07:58] having problems with updates. it just hangs and dosnt download/install anything at all. restarting dosnt help. === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [07:58] also having problems with SIM PIN, i no longer get the "Enter PIN" Button. its just always "Unknown" so i have to enter it with ofono-scripts. [07:59] im on devel [07:59] popped up 1-2 days ago [08:11] Hi [08:16] Good morning all; happy Friday and happy World Mental Health Day! :-D [08:16] mardy: done [08:18] thostr_: thanks [08:36] Mirv: installing the ppa to see where we are [08:42] mzanetti: thanks! try also that removing of the generic file. [08:43] yep [09:20] mpt: here's a nice question: if I create an Evernote account, and then the Evernote account plugin gets uninstalled, currently in OA we still show the account (but with no name or icon, since they went with the plugin) [09:20] mpt: should we hide the account from the UI, or should we show in some error state to inform the user that he needs to reinstall the plugin if he wants to get this account working? [09:21] mardy, I’d just hide the account … If you’re uninstalling plugins you know what you’re doing [09:22] mpt: makes sense, thanks === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === slvn is now known as Guest48010 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|hanout === Guest48010 is now known as slvn_ === MacSlow|hanout is now known as MacSlow === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk [10:41] lolz ubuntu-emulator... "Unknown command `start', did you mean `destroy'?" [10:41] Uh. no. [10:54] having problems with updates. it just hangs and dosnt download/install anything at all. restarting dosnt help. [10:54] also having problems with SIM PIN, i no longer get the "Enter PIN" Button. its just always "Unknown" so i have to enter it with ofono-scripts.$ [10:54] im on devel [11:01] K1773R: you need to edit /var/lib/urfkill/saved-states and set WWAN soft=false , then restart your device [11:03] kemmko1, do you have a screenshot/mockup handy of the HERE checkbox in the first-run setup? [11:04] Also, who are the engineers working on the location service? [11:05] daker: it is already false [11:05] lool, is it you? (You’re the only individual subscriber to location-service bug reports) [11:05] K1773R: is your device on flight mode ? [11:05] daker: no its not [11:06] Hmm, the only location-service bugs I see assigned are assigned to tvoss [11:07] K1773R: for the updates, you can enable developer mode, then do : phablet-shell -> sudo -i to get root access [11:07] K1773R: then run $ system-image-cli -v [11:07] mpt: yes [11:08] mpt: will ping it to you [11:08] ow [11:08] mpt: ow? [11:09] Something pinged me in the back. ;-) [11:09] daker: ok, no errors. do you want the output? [11:09] K1773R: sure [11:10] daker: http://pastebin.com/ycuprrYA [11:11] K1773R: ok, system-image-cli -i [11:12] daker: http://pastebin.com/9dpjDMau [11:14] K1773R: uour device is already updated === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:14] hey seb128, quick question: other than adding X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes and approving the template, is there anything else that is needed to get bug 1379754 fixed? It seems the upstream project already uses cmake to build a .pot, not sure if there is anything else that needs to be done in the package [11:14] bug 1379754 in Indicator Display "Setup translations in Launchpad" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379754 [11:15] daker: in the system options at updates it shows the following updates "payui, webapp-gmail, calculator, gallery, file manager, camera". once i say update (no matter which one) it hangs and never downloads anything [11:16] K1773R, so [11:16] that's likely an expired session [11:16] a known bug [11:17] log into U1 again [11:17] beuno: U1? ubuntu one? [11:21] after closing the system settings and opening it again, it searches for updates again and i have to select which packages to update. tough nothing happens if i select something to update === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader [11:30] K1773R, yes, Ubuntu One [11:30] go to Online Accounts [11:30] remove it, add it again [11:30] or, go to the app scope [11:30] and try to install a new app, it should ask you to log back in, if you're in a new enough version [11:31] beuno: thanks alot! worked :) [11:37] K1773R, gatox is fixing that bug for you, btw :) [11:38] gatox: thanks too :P [11:41] mpt: for the wizard, mterry did the work; for location-service in general tvoss and I [11:59] dpm, let me check, but I don't think so [12:03] ok, thanks === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [12:20] lool, can you tell me what happens if someone checks “Allow apps to use your mobile and Wi-Fi networks to determine your location”, but does *not* check “Accept the HERE conditions to enable these services”? Do we then use Wi-Fi+cell at all, or just GPS? [12:26] mpt: we would only use GPS [12:26] lool, so if you don’t check the second checkbox, the first has no effect [12:27] mpt: that's right [12:27] mpt: this might change as we add providers in the future [12:27] lool, what about if you check the second checkbox but not the first? Is it again only GPS used? [12:27] mpt: the way HERE is integrated right now is not right; it shouldn't be specially handled; instead, we should use this general checkbox and we shoudl show the license from a click install [12:28] mpt: hmm I'm not sure the generic checkbox affects behavior of HERE [12:28] checking with tvoss === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [12:38] Hi, my nexus4 on r243 has been unable to update for several days, when I do "sudo apt-get update" in the terminal, it tells me that it get a 404 on http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/utopic/universe/binary-armhf/Packages any idea how I can fix that? [12:38] kenvandine, good morning! [12:39] kenvandine, remember we talked about [1] and how urfkill could be the cause of the two times this failed? I think urfkill has fixed the bugs involved, so could you try again? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/cellular-data-not-preserved-after-fm-fixes-1376957/+merge/237586 [12:40] brunogirin: I'd switch to the rtm channel, that image is ooooold [12:43] popey: OK, how do I do that? do I just do ubuntu-device-flash --channel=rtm ? [12:43] do --list-channels [12:43] I'd use the rtm 14.09 one [12:45] popey: so that would be ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 ? [12:45] looks good [12:47] popey: thanks, doing that now; then I can do the nexus 7 too :) [12:48] popey: it suddenly gives meaning to some of the discussions I saw on the mailing list that I didn't understand about the rtm channel... [12:50] if i change channels, what will be overwritten? ie, system.img or just some stuff and the other things arent being touched. [12:57] K1773R: I just did that and it kept all my contacts, messages, installed apps, etc [12:59] yeah, so long as you don't "--wipe" you'll be good [12:59] even things i installed with apt? [13:02] no [13:04] well [13:04] the apt database will be wiped [13:05] stuff might still be left around from former installed packages though [13:05] so i should remove the packages i installed and then change channels, afterwards reinstalling those packages? if so, what is the default list of packages so i know which to remove [13:07] * ogra_ would just back up the homedir and do a wipe or bootstrap install [13:08] (and refrain from using apt if possible ... it just messes up things) [13:14] jgdx, sure === nik90 is now known as nik90|Lunch [13:28] I was just wondering, my Nexus 7, its still running ubuntu 14.10 (r243), is it recomended to move to RTM or should I have gotten an update, I see a lot of updates for gallery etc, but can't install them, they just wont download, and I was wondering how I could solve that on the Nexus7 [13:32] mpt: so it's as I thought: the setting isn't implemented in HERE, but the plan is to honor it when we have more providers [13:33] lool, so right now, HERE is our only provider, but it *ignores* whether you’ve checked the Wi-Fi/cell checkbox? [13:34] mpt: yes [13:34] So if HERE isn’t used, the first checkbox does nothing, and if it is used, the first checkbox also does nothing [13:34] mpt: yup [13:34] ChloeWolfieGirl, the U1 account tokens were all re-set ... you might need to delete the account and newly add it on the device (there was a mail about that on the ubuntu-phone ML) [13:37] ogra The apps are upgrading now, that you, I was worried that my version of Ubuntu Touch didn't have all the features and just wasn't upgrading to the latest version of Ubuntu Touch, thank you! ^^ === beidl_ is now known as beidl [13:39] lool, is there a bug report on HERE ignoring the setting? [13:40] mpt_: I dont think so [13:50] mpt_, what change is needed per https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-bluetooth/+bug/1377286 [13:50] Ubuntu bug 1377286 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Update Indicator Title Strings" [Undecided,New] [13:50] in settings? [13:51] pmcgowan, as I said, changing the text of the “Notifications” screen [13:51] It currently refers to the “Notification Centre”, and we don’t call anything by that name any more [13:52] mpt_, ok sorry was not clear to me [13:52] mpt_, settings already says Notifications [13:52] so thats correct right? [13:53] oh i see [13:53] in the text === mpt_ is now known as mpt [14:02] lool, so since the first checkbox does nothing, we’ll get rid of it :-) [14:02] lool, now to your other point: When you said “we shou[ld] show the license from a click install”, how would that work given HERE is installed by default? [14:03] mterry, testing the wizard refresh silo, wizard keeps crashing [14:03] kenvandine, oh great [14:03] mpt: we could special case installation of a click with license during first boot [14:03] and unity-system-compositor [14:03] mpt: it's just that there is no way to deal with addition/removals of providers right now; it ought to be like for apps and scopes eventually [14:03] mterry, lets see if whoopsie uploads it and i'll get you the crash report [14:03] perhaps with an app to enable/disable it [14:04] mterry, it crashes everything i hit continue on the first screen [14:05] kenvandine, ok that would be the language changing probably... [14:05] mterry, ok, 4th try i got through the wizard [14:05] kenvandine, I'll play with it and see what I can get [14:05] mterry, ok [14:05] i'll try to get you a link to the crash report [14:07] kenvandine, silo 008 for utopic, right? [14:07] mterry, yes [14:10] lool, hmm, what criteria would make choice of location providers interesting to users? [14:12] mpt: we might have one that sends data to the mozilla database, another one that is better in this or that conditions etc. [14:12] lool, well, by “what criteria” I mean in what conditions :-) [14:13] mpt: some might have better databases in this or that region for instance; or intrude more or less in your privacy [14:13] mpt: also, the license acceptance is currently per user, so we'd want a per user view of the enabled providers eventually -- today the acceptance is per user but the provider is launched system wide [14:14] Ok, privacy vs. coverage is a tangible choice (though an unpleasant one) [14:14] mpt: actually looking at my krillin settings in french right now and not sure where you mean the wifi and cell setting is? is that indicator, settings app or wizard? [14:15] lool, it’s in the first-run setup … I was adapting it to System Settings, when I realized, “hang on, this looks a little redundant” [14:16] mpt: let me check what this one does [14:19] mpt: it seems the wording isn't great but that this turns on location overall [14:19] mterry: do I understand correctly from the code that "Use your mobile network and Wi-Fi to work out where you are" actually turns location on / off globally? [14:20] lool, that does the same thing as the indicator toggle labeled "Location detection" [14:20] mterry: right; so that's generally turning location on / off, including hardware GPS [14:22] oh bother [14:23] lool, is there a better setting to toggle? [14:23] Wellark, testing apneditor, it does activate the internet apn and it does work for data! [14:24] Wellark, the mms context isn't showing as active though [14:24] mterry: I think it's the wording which isn't good [14:24] and if i try to send an mms, the messaging-app tells me my sim is locked [14:24] Wellark, ^^ [14:24] mterry: it suggests gsm / wifi positioning is being toggled when really location detection is being toggled [14:24] mterry: you could set it on to use just the GPS hardware provider [14:24] ogra_, hey, I’m getting the messaging-app crashing consistently when launched (even across reboots), and the crash file in /var/crash/ doesn’t contain a core file, do you know how I can get one? [14:25] Wellark, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8533224/ [14:25] oSoMoN: maybe, ~root/.config/apport/settings can have a [main] section with unpackaged=True [14:25] oSoMoN, hmm, apport/whoopsie should create one ... ask ev or bdmurray [14:25] lool, mterry: So if you have that checkbox unchecked, and the HERE checkbox checked, it will use Wi-Fi and cell data but *not* GPS? [14:25] lool, maybe Design now intends it to toggle HERE and if it's on, to enable the T&C checkbox which would become a requirement before user presses Continue... But Design didn't mention that, so I assumed it continued to do what it has always done [14:25] oSoMoN: or ~phablet [14:26] not sure [14:26] pmcgowan, can you test the apneditor in silo 20? [14:26] kemmko, ^ [14:26] kemmko, we're talking about what the checkboxes on the Location OOBE page do [14:26] mterry, I’ve been talking with kemmko about this, she’s a little busy right now :-) [14:27] mpt: I dont think we will support enabling just HERE; hardware GPS will always be turned on when looking for a location -- unless location is disabled entirely [14:27] ok [14:27] So the choices should be: (a) no location detection, (b) GPS only, (c) GPS+HERE [14:27] mpt, then do you know what the intention for those checkboxes was? [14:28] We still can't enable HERE after the wizard, right? [14:28] kenvandine, yep in about 30 [14:29] mpt, also: I would argue that we should rename GPS -> satellite-based positioning to capture other networks like GLONASS [14:29] pmcgowan, thx === GranPC_ is now known as GranPC [14:30] mterry, I do not, and I would rather that there was just one checkbox, but those three choices require more than one checkbox [14:30] kenvandine, you said the crash was reliablish? [14:30] kenvandine, tried twice and it worked, will keep at it [14:30] very [14:30] took me the 4th try to get through it [14:30] mpt: what aobut GPS+wifi, but not with HERE? [14:30] mterry, image 276 [14:30] mpt, it does seem like user wants a "make location work like I expect" button [14:31] tvoss, true (and the same will happen with “Cellular” -> “Mobile” eventually), but right now, I think {people who understand the term “GPS”} >> {people who understand any other accurate term} [14:31] mterry, I would argue that's the equivalent of: Enable network-based positioning, including a description of the potential privacy implications [14:32] mpt, fair point [14:32] dobey, as with GLONASS, if/when that becomes an issue, we can change the text/UI then :-) [14:32] mpt: well my understanding of the current code, is that it is an issue now :) [14:33] dobey, in the code, yes. In providers that are available to install, not as far as I know. [14:33] mterry: +1 [14:34] mpt, tvoss: ANyway isn't this setting about whether apps get access to location at all? [14:34] so it could be labelled "Allow apps to get my location" [14:34] lool, nope, that's what the trust-store prompt is for [14:34] heh [14:34] mpt: is HERE available on anything other than krillin? [14:34] Has anyone tested whether trust-store just goes “NOPE” if this setting is turned off? [14:35] Or whether it puts up a prompt that has no effect? [14:35] kenvandine, I'm on 276+silo 008 [14:35] tvoss: that's how it's worded in the settings [14:35] tvoss: under privacy [14:35] mterry, dunno... want the crash files? [14:35] kenvandine, do you actually switch language or just go through the language screen? [14:35] tvoss: I'm not speaking per app, I mean the global one [14:35] mterry, no, not switching [14:36] just clicking continue crashed it [14:36] and crashed unity-system-compositor [14:36] kenvandine, ! really [14:37] dobey, you’re asking the wrong person there … I see the checkbox on Nexus, but that doesn’t mean the code exists [14:37] mterry, i even rebooted several times [14:37] lool, tvoss: Your confusion is understandable. Probably the UI should mention that you’ll be prompted for each app [14:38] kenvandine, alright, tried 5 times so far. Whatever is happening just doesn't seem to mind my mako [14:38] kenvandine, do you have a sim card in? [14:38] dobey: it's available on mako, yes [14:38] mterry, no [14:38] kenvandine, nor do i... [14:38] mpt: right. and even though i've never accepted the HERE TOS on my nexus5, and gps doesn't actually work, it still does wifi match [14:38] dobey: quality is not necessarily the same on both as that depends on the modem and wifi drivers [14:40] dobey, that’s a bug then [14:40] lool: i'm concerned about this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service/+bug/1378480 [14:40] Ubuntu bug 1378480 in location-service (Ubuntu) "Location detection insists on being turned on" [Undecided,New] [14:40] dobey: the indicator state is known broken [14:40] dobey: HERE location will honor the setting quite hard, but can only be set during wizard right now [14:41] otherwise, location is currently always on AIUI [14:41] lool: it's not just the indicator. it is turned on again in system settings after i reboot, every time i turn it off [14:41] dobey: sure, I mean the setting overall [14:41] charles: ping === nik90|Lunch is now known as nik90 [14:42] jgdx, ok... i can still reproduce the cellular issue when toggling FM [14:42] jgdx, but i noticed something [14:42] when i enable FM and quickly close the indicator [14:42] i see the selector switch from 2g to off [14:42] lool: yes, and i mean i don't want wifi based location turned on ever. only ever gps when i do turn it on. and when i turn it off, i want it to stay off, and not be leaking my location to whatever service it's getting the network ip resolution from [14:43] mpt: sounds like we need to update the wording in the various places; the number of settings and their function seems ok, it's just the wording which is not too clear [14:43] before it actually goes to FM [14:43] dobey: if you never accepted HERE terms, it wont ever be on [14:43] so when i disable FM, it goes back to off [14:43] lool, the reason I got involved in this in the first place is bug 1375322 [14:43] lool: but it is [14:43] bug 1375322 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[Security & Privacy/Wizard] Should be possible to accept HERE T&Cs after running through the wizard " [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375322 [14:43] so something is switching the tech pref to off while enabling FM [14:44] kenvandine, I saw that too, but it came back. What rev are you on? [14:45] 95 [14:45] rtm [14:45] kenvandine, so yeah if you can get me the crash files I may be able to figure something out === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:46] jgdx, it's actually failing more reliably now that it did the other day [14:46] mterry: mpt: on it! and I think we have a solution [14:46] kenvandine, I’m sorry this is taking so long, I just dipped into it and got my foot covered in tar [14:48] mterry: mpt: we will combine the checkbox into one [14:50] mterry: mpt: maybe not [14:53] mpt, i see that :) === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:58] kenvandine, well, that's something [15:00] kenvandine, I'll do some more testing. Thanks again. [15:00] jgdx, it's weird, i think it has to do with whatever is changing the selector [15:00] i guess a signal from ofono? [15:01] kenvandine, you see the single sim ui, so it could be that the online sim went away (!present) and you see selector for the offline sim. [15:01] kenvandine, you checked list-modems? [15:01] ah, i am testing it with just the one sim in the second slot [15:02] kenvandine, right, I haven't been doing that. I've been testing with two sims, both unlocked. [15:05] jgdx, confirmed, list-modems doesn't show it as off [15:05] just the UI [15:05] kenvandine, ConnectionManager.Powered? There's a couple of Powered. [15:05] and that's great! More data [15:06] jgdx, wait... i don't see ConnectionManager [15:07] jgdx, oh.. now i see it :) [15:07] Powered = 0 [15:07] so no... === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:08] kenvandine, so the ui is correct (even though it might have disabled it) [15:21] * jgdx tests using one sim in ril1 and hopes to repro [15:23] hi [15:24] when installing ubuntu touch on nexus 7, what is the recommended channel? [15:24] utopic or devel [15:24] kenvandine, repro'd on first go.. [15:24] jgdx, good... i guess :) [15:26] would devel automatically point to the next release (codename v) when it's released? [15:26] rigved, yes [15:26] awesome [15:26] thanks [15:26] utopic is a dead end ... [15:27] cool [15:27] kenvandine, it's gold. [15:28] mterry, http://people.canonical.com/~kenvandine/_usr_bin_system-settings-wizard.32011.crash [15:28] mterry, http://people.canonical.com/~kenvandine/_usr_sbin_unity-system-compositor.0.crash [15:29] kenvandine, perfect... [15:29] kenvandine, I assume the USC crash is real one and wizard is follow-on [15:29] kenvandine, still haven't been able to reproduce. I tried going back and forth on that page too... [15:31] :( [15:34] kenvandine, let's talk versions... I get "warning: core file may not match specified executable file." for both of those files [15:35] mterry, interesting! [15:35] kenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8533621/ [15:36] kenvandine, I would assume that if we have same packages, we could share core files [15:36] mterry, indeed... unfortunately i've switched to silo 20... [15:36] kenvandine, curses! [15:37] i thought the crash file included versions... [15:42] mterry, compositor version is the same [15:42] just reinstalled from the silo [15:42] testing [15:42] kenvandine, oh maybe they do have versions! sorry [15:42] kenvandine, didn't even think to check :( [15:43] lool, mterry: We’re text-wrangling, and have a question. Is the Nokia HERE data anonymized? [15:43] kenvandine, actually I don't see a version in the unpacked crash file [15:43] yeah, i checked [15:43] mpt, I myself have no idea [15:43] which is odd [15:43] mterry, ok... wizard just worked without crashing [15:43] mterry, do you know where we can find out? [15:43] kenvandine, yeah version of the package and all deps would be super useful [15:44] mpt, lool is probably the right person for that question. My only interaction with HERE has been checkboxes [15:44] mterry, i know i must have had the right version though [15:44] mpt: we dont send them the full id of the device [15:44] because on the 4th try, when it worked... i saw the new UI [15:44] mpt: but we do provide them with some unique id [15:44] kenvandine, well USC was crashing [15:45] kenvandine, I don't think the wizard had the bug [15:45] mpt: I guess they require it for counting purposes [15:45] kenvandine, did you have other packages? Other testing silos installed? [15:45] mterry, i don't think so [15:46] mterry, and it had taken ages to get to the wizard before [15:46] quick now [15:46] boom [15:47] crashed again :) [15:47] kenvandine, herm [15:47] kenvandine, ah! [15:47] mpt: but no phone number or imei, so can't link back to you [15:47] good? [15:47] 3rd try [15:47] Thanks loicm [15:47] err, thanks lool [15:48] mterry, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8533697/ [15:49] kenvandine, ok can I have those crash files too...? I want to see if they give me same warning message [15:49] mterry, ok [15:50] kenvandine, we don't have debug symbol packages built from silos I assume. Not sure how to make use of that crash package. USC I can get ddeb for though [15:50] mterry, ok, same urls [15:50] mterry, we don't [15:52] kenvandine, I'm troubled by differing ease of reproduction [15:52] rsalveti, FYI, I accidentally killed your test, but it's on its way back: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-sound/ricardos-role-test/+merge/238006 [15:57] tedg: oh, cool, thanks [16:03] kenvandine, so, there's a difference in what happens in slot #1 and slot #2 [16:05] kenvandine, you only get this with the silo? [16:05] kenvandine, when flight mode is activated, slot 2's ConnectionManager tells us that Powered is set to false. I think it should not. [16:05] kenvandine, like... you can't reproduce without getting silo 8? [16:05] abeato, ^ any ideas? [16:07] jgdx, if flight mode is set there is no connectionmanager interface [16:08] abeato, for ril_0 there ain't, but for ril_1 ofono somehow produces a propertychanged signal. [16:08] kenvandine, for the USC crash, looks like something in mirserver. Digging. For the wiz crash, I get "/var/crash/ken/wiz/CoreDump is truncated: expected core file size >= 184496128, found: 4259840." [16:09] jgdx, what property changes? [16:09] abeato, ConnectionManager.Powered [16:10] jgdx, so when flight mode is set you get a signal saying ConnectionManager.Powered is false? [16:10] abeato, just for ril_1, yes [16:11] abeato, krillin [16:11] jgdx, weird that is just for ril_1 [16:12] jgdx, I guess you can open a bug so we can investigate that [16:12] kenvandine, is there a bug for this yet? I have a mirserver stacktrace at least [16:12] abeato, sure. Thanks! [16:12] np [16:12] abeato, what project do you think is appropriate? [16:12] ofono [16:13] k [16:13] kenvandine, which theoretically is a bug / should be fixed regardless of silo [16:14] I'm trying to move my nexus 7 to the rtm channel but when I try to do that I get "Failed to locate latest image information": does it mean there's no rtm channel for flo? [16:14] * mterry files bug [16:15] hmm [16:15] latest devel-proposed image is suddenly telling me the sim is locked when i try to send an sms; my sim has never been locked. what the heck? [16:24] rebooting doesn't help either, and i can't even check my voicemail [16:26] kenvandine, filed bug 1379848 -- but looking at the diff for that branch, I'm guessing the changes to ubuntu-system-settings-wizard-set-lang.conf are causing this -- can you comment out the two new lines and try again? [16:26] bug 1379848 in mir (Ubuntu) "Crash in mir::compositor::BufferQueue::give_buffer_to_client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379848 [16:27] kenvandine, that might give clues. anpok in #ubuntu-mir had a guess that the crash might be an already-fixed bug [16:31] anpok, is that fix you showed me in silo 003? kenvandine, if so, might also be worth trying both silos [16:31] kenvandine, seemingly the crash has to do with a closing app, and since we restart some Mir clients between those two pages of the wizard, sounds plausible [16:32] *"seemingly the fixed bug has to do with a closing app" [16:33] kenvandine, I am going to go grab lunch, will be back on later. Leave comments for me in that bug I filed [16:33] sorry to rely on you for this, but I can't reproduce for some reason :( [16:33] does nobody else have problems with sim card on image 274? [16:35] or 276? [16:35] nik90, pong [16:35] mterry, will do [16:35] stgraber: hmm latest system-image update fails for me on mako: when I reboot it's still available for update; where I can see debug? [16:37] charles: hey, === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [16:38] charles: actually nevermind, I thought I had something to ask, but cannot remember what it was [16:38] bfiller: ping! [16:38] bfiller: hey! Do you know if those dialer-app test failures we mentioned earlier have been resolved? [16:39] stgraber: ok, managed to cat last_log before recovery automatically reapplied update and rebooted; it said: rm: can't stat 'b'system/usr/s [16:39] stgraber: with a logn list of pycache files [16:39] sil2100: they are caused by powerd bug [16:39] sil2100: screen going black during the tests [16:39]