[06:53] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:12] <diplo> Morning all
[07:17] <MooDoo> howdy diplo
[07:38] <diplo> Hows the new job MooDoo ?
[07:39] <diplo> I think I remember you saying you were moving... ? :)
[07:51] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah it's great thanks, learning lots :)
[07:52] <diplo> Same style of work ?
[07:53] <MooDoo> nah completely different, customer support team leader in my last job, windows/linux sys admin in this one.  Last job web hosting, this one health foods  complete change
[07:53] <MooDoo> left there had to setup my own server for all my websites, the cheek of it :D
[07:55] <MooDoo> uptime for my ubuntu webserver is currently 28 days lol
[07:58] <diplo> :D
[07:58] <diplo> Still in Nottingham ?
[07:59] <MooDoo> yeah mate blenheim industrial estate
[08:01] <diplo> Nice, really must pull my finger out and sort myself a new job
[08:09] <MooDoo> diplo: they are out there, what you looking to do?
[08:10] <diplo> Same as you really, level 2/3 I guess
[08:10] <MooDoo> cool nottingham based?
[08:10] <diplo> I moved to development for a few years
[08:10] <diplo> Nah, my main office is up there but I'm based near bath
[08:11] <MooDoo> ah
[08:11] <MooDoo> start your own linux consulting company :D
[08:13] <diplo> I could do that and I could do the work, my problem with running my own company is actually charging/collecting money
[08:13] <diplo> I suck at it!
[08:14] <MooDoo> I know that one lol
[08:15] <MooDoo> I started my own and all I have is the website which has three lines on it :D
[08:16] <diplo> I already do bits and bobs for people and they say how much do I owe you... ME : 'What ever you feel is right'
[08:16] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy World Mental Health Day! :-D
[08:16] <diplo> Is pretty much the normal response
[08:16] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait :)
[08:16] <MooDoo> diplo: if it's family or friends I just say forget it and they normally get me beer :D
[08:16] <JamesTait> Also, happy World Porridge Day - which I think I should have celebrated at breakfast.
[08:17] <JamesTait> MooDoo, o/
[08:17] <MooDoo> diplo: if it's non family, it's about £20
[08:17] <DJones> JamesTait: I'm sure bricklayers around the word will celebrate world porridge day
[08:18] <diplo> I get given anywhere for £10 to £60, family / friends never even bother with beer which is rather annoying, it's expected
[08:18] <diplo> So I quite often forget them now when they ask
[08:18] <diplo> :)
[08:18] <MooDoo> lol, my family I've installed teamviewer, so at least I don't need to leave the house :D
[08:19] <diplo> Done that on my dads new machine
[08:19] <MooDoo> yeah I had to login to my dads the other day as they didn't know how to use skype lol
[08:19] <MooDoo> I said £20 but for some reason they swore at me :D
[08:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: Why am I shushing you, you know you love the old dance tracks :P
[08:20] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah damn you mr
[08:20] <MooDoo> davmor2: grooove is in the hearrrrrt hearrrrttt :F
[08:20] <davmor2> dee lite
[08:20] <MooDoo> yeah
[08:21] <davmor2> word up, it's the code word
[08:22] <MooDoo> hay pretty ladies around the world....
[08:22] <Myrtti> unce unce unce unce
[08:23] <MooDoo> davmor2: now I've had to play 90's dance party music in spotify, darm your music genres
[08:24] <popey> Good moaning.
[08:24] <MooDoo> howdy popey
[08:25] <davmor2> MooDoo: 3 names are the joy for today to get me through.  Josh Wink, Moby, Fat Boy Slim
[08:26] <davmor2> MooDoo: That's all I'm sayin'
[08:26] <MooDoo> nice :D
[08:27] <MooDoo> So my upgrade to utopic worked flawlessly last night :D
[08:27] <davmor2> I heard
[08:28] <davmor2> MooDoo: I might throw in the Bucketheads and I wanna be a hippy for popey :D
[08:29] <MooDoo> davmor2: you saying popey is a hippy at heart
[08:29] <MooDoo> ?
[08:30] <MooDoo> finally it happened to me.......
[08:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: aren't we all just freedom loving hippies at heart
[08:31] <foobarry> woke up at 4.30am to the sound of nibbling
[08:31] <foobarry> turned on the torch and a mouse ran over my foot :(
[08:32] <davmor2> MooDoo: Cece something or other
[08:32] <davmor2> MooDoo: patinson petinson something like that
[08:35] <davmor2> foobarry: nice
[08:35] <davmor2> it like you then
[08:39] <MooDoo> ewwwww
[08:43] <knightwise>   Mornings peepz
[08:43] <knightwise> Howzzyou :)
[08:43] <MooDoo> knightwise: morning :D
[08:45] <knightwise> Hey Mooodoo
[08:45] <knightwise> howslife
[08:54] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:55] <MooDoo> morning bigcalm
[08:55] <bigcalm> o/
[08:56] <JamesTait> bigcalm, o/
[08:56] <JamesTait> bigcalm, played any more with Soonsnap since OggCamp?
[08:57] <bigcalm> Moving house is somewhat draining, and we have until the end of the month to get it done. Glad it didn't have to be done in a day
[08:57] <bigcalm> JamesTait: oh, was I sat next to you? I'm so sorry, I should have paid more attention!
[08:57] <bigcalm> Not had a need to use it yet, but I do like the service
[08:58] <JamesTait> bigcalm, I should have introduced myself, really, but I came over all shy.
[08:58] <bigcalm> Awww
[08:59] <JamesTait> davmor2 will tell you, I'm the quiet one.
[08:59] <davmor2> he lies
[08:59] <bigcalm> JamesTait: so the opposite of davmor2 then
[08:59] <bigcalm> Ha, morning davmor2
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good cop, bad cop. ;)
[08:59] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:00] <bigcalm> Hi brobostigon
[09:00] <JamesTait> brobostigon, o/
[09:00] <davmor2> JamesTait: bad cop evil cop more like ;)
[09:00]  * JamesTait chuckles to himself, wondering which is which.
[09:00] <bigcalm> I know which is the weird cop
[09:00] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm and JamesTait
[09:01] <davmor2> bigcalm: that's you, you workaholic
[09:01] <bigcalm> o/
[09:01] <JamesTait> Must be time for tea.
[09:01]  * bigcalm quaffs coffee
[09:02] <davmor2> JamesTait: enough of the niceties why internet day is it damn it ;)
[09:02] <knightwise> hey brobostigon  (and the rest :) )
[09:02] <davmor2> s/why/what
[09:03] <brobostigon> hey knightwise :)
[09:03] <bigcalm> davmor2: It's internet cut off day, for me
[09:03] <davmor2> bigcalm: man how will you work over the weekend, dun dun dunnnnnnnnn
[09:04] <bigcalm> davmor2: VM are connecting the new house tomorrow morning
[09:05] <bigcalm> Because the house isn't connected (but the street is), 2 engineers have to do some magic to get it installed. It will be a fun time
[09:05] <knightwise> No way to hotspot your phone as a backup line ,
[09:05] <bigcalm> I have my 3g tethered router ready for the cut off some time today
[09:05] <Myrtti> let me tell you a woeful tale
[09:06] <bigcalm> Myrtti: let me get a hanky 1st
[09:06] <Myrtti> of a myrtti bying vanilla soy milk to make her coffee nice and tasty
[09:06] <Myrtti> buying, even
[09:06] <Myrtti> and then, getting real disappointed, because now coffee doesn't taste of coffee, vanilla, or milk
[09:06] <Myrtti> ;___;
[09:06] <knightwise> Myrtti: thats true
[09:06] <knightwise> it takes some getting used to .
[09:07] <bigcalm> Myrtti: what does it taste of?
[09:07] <knightwise> babymilk
[09:08] <Myrtti> it smells and tastes like my makeup bag
[09:08] <knightwise> Myrtti: about right ..
[09:08] <Myrtti> nondescript and bland but with a hint of something that you can't really describe. Sweet, tiny bit floral, maybe vanilla...
[09:09] <Myrtti> just... makeup bag
[09:09] <knightwise> I love it with cornflakes though.
[09:09] <MooDoo> baby milk is yuck
[09:10] <christel> i now have visions of a grown MooDoo dangling from a pair of engorged boobs
[09:11] <MooDoo> bitty ;)
[09:11] <christel> haha
[09:11]  * knightwise runs away ... trying not to throw up on his keyboard
[09:11] <bigcalm> Nice
[09:14] <Myrtti> oh good grief this is horrid
[09:14] <Myrtti> I feel so sorry for anyone who has to drink this. So very, very sorry.
[09:15] <Myrtti> I suppose it's about what you get used to, but man.
[09:16] <MooDoo> lol yeah it's horrid but good for babies
[09:16] <foobarry> soy milk? tried it once with coco pops
[09:16] <foobarry> it's nasty
[09:23] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:23] <bigcalm> Ello czajkowski :)
[09:24] <knightwise> hey czajkowski , hows bash !
[09:25] <czajkowski> bonkers but good
[09:25] <knightwise> That dog is awesome .. completely nuts but sooo awesome
[09:25] <czajkowski> currently seeing off all the birds that tend to sift on the walls outside driving him crazy
[09:25] <JamesTait> davmor2, today is World Mental Health Day. And six others.
[09:26] <knightwise> Lol :) Anti-bird-bash :)
[09:26] <czajkowski> pigeons drive him binkers
[09:27] <czajkowski> *bonkers
[09:27] <czajkowski> as do planes s he barks at them as they pass over so he think he sees them off
[09:27] <knightwise> Scotty is the same here .. but with cats
[09:27] <czajkowski> oh the cats torment him,come up to the cat flap that was in the house and look at him
[09:27] <czajkowski> he goes crazy
[09:28] <knightwise> sulu is a little more peacefull : https://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/14898480048/
[09:28] <knightwise> scotty has to inspect ALL THE THINGS : https://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/14447597798/
[10:14] <MooDoo> sorry davmor2 I've had to move onto led zeppelin
[10:15] <davmor2> MooDoo: Stairway to heaven in bbc news triggered I bet ;)
[10:15] <MooDoo> davmor2: god dammit
[10:16] <MooDoo> yes
[10:16] <MooDoo> blush
[10:17] <davmor2> MooDoo: See I know
[10:18] <MooDoo> davmor2: You're stalking me
[10:18] <davmor2> MooDoo: what you want to lead into then is all along the watchtower by jimi ;)
[10:18] <Myrtti> oh wow. Great news.
[10:18] <Myrtti> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/wins-nobel-peace-prize-2014
[10:19] <Myrtti> "Malala Yousafzai and Kailash Satyarthi win Nobel peace prize 2014"
[10:19] <MooDoo> That's good news
[10:20] <MooDoo> Faith in humanity restored
[10:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: indeed :)
[10:25] <MooDoo> any one want to rebuild my server fro me, can't be bothered lol
[10:27] <davmor2> MooDoo: oh me, me ,me.........makes it so every url parsed rick rolls MooDoo
[10:29] <MooDoo> lol want to remove vmware davmor2
[10:31] <davmor2> MooDoo: yeah then remove the Redhat and microsoft stuff I know how much you like them ;)
[10:34] <popey> hah
[10:35] <MooDoo> actually I don't run redhat/ms on my servers at the moment, just debian servers :p so there
[10:36] <MooDoo> and my webserver is ubuntu :p
[10:37] <popey> davmor2: ask him again tomorrow ☻
[10:37] <davmor2> popey: Tomorrow give him 20 minutes
[10:38] <MooDoo> lol
[10:38] <MooDoo> davmor2: I don't touch my webserver, apart from to reboot it to install security updates, gos customer sites on it, so that will stay ubuntu
[10:43] <davmor2> MooDoo: moved onto Queen the Platinum Collection  seemed fitting somehow
[10:44] <MooDoo> I'm not a queen thank you very much
[10:45] <davmor2> MooDoo: especially Another one bites the dust
[10:45] <knightwise> MooDoo: I hope you ment queen-FAN
[10:45] <MooDoo> lol
[10:45] <davmor2> MooDoo: and okay princess calm down
[10:46] <MooDoo> lol ha ha ha ha
[10:52] <foobarry> anyone had experience of screen attached to laptop not allowed as a primary screen? seems to be only cloning atm
[10:52] <foobarry> might be elementary OS related :S
[10:57] <Myrtti> ooh
[10:58] <Myrtti> Russell Tovey voices Moomintroll in the Moomin movie.
[11:00] <directhex> moomin is my default metasyntactic variable.
[11:10] <davmor2> knightwise: you need a red setter, that way you have a random red coat
[11:10] <knightwise> a red setter ? ? ?
[11:11] <davmor2> knightwise: well scotty and sulu can't die on startrek missions so you need a rnadom red coat
[11:11] <knightwise> indeed :)
[11:12] <knightwise> we always carry along an extra redshirt
[11:12] <davmor2> hahaha
[11:12] <knightwise> some no name extra who doesn't make it back :)
[11:13] <czajkowski> knightwise: have you seen https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonkers-Bash/
[11:15] <knightwise> oh i SO joined this !
[11:16] <czajkowski> hmm did that link work for you knightwise
[11:16] <czajkowski> or do you need to go via https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonkers-Bash/739967579348639?
[11:17] <knightwise> found it :)
[11:18] <MooDoo> awwwwwww
[11:20] <knightwise> has bash been patched for shellshock yet ?
[11:20] <MooDoo> not that i'm aware of
[11:21] <MooDoo> knightwise: http://evolvisforge.blog.tarent.de/archives/93
[11:22] <knightwise> I was referring to bash the dog :)
[11:22] <knightwise> but yeah .. its amazing this exploit is still open
[11:24] <zmoylan-pi> it's been patched lots of times, completely patched is another question :-)
[11:30] <SuperMatt> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/psa-netflix-ubuntu-now-working-box
[11:32] <popey> pfffft old news ㋛
[11:32] <popey> https://plus.google.com/+AlanPope/posts/Lknxg4xcfG3
[11:34] <SuperMatt> ¬.¬
[11:35] <MooDoo> :)
[11:55] <awilkins> What, no user-agent spoof required now?
[11:56] <awilkins> Awesomes
[11:57] <awilkins> knightwise, bash was patched for shellshock the day it was announced, wasn't it?
[12:00] <shauno> there's been a near-constant stream of patches
[12:03] <MooDoo> awilkins: yes it was patched, then that patch didn't actually work, neither did the subsiquent 2 others
[12:03] <awilkins> Oh dear
[12:03] <awilkins> Ah well, at least they're trying harder than Solaris :-Z
[12:10] <knightwise> oops
[12:10] <knightwise> online snapchat database leaked ..
[12:11] <knightwise> another crack in the cloud
[12:11] <zmoylan-pi> something online not secure? i'm shocked AND appalled
[12:12] <foobarry> "I agree a deep dive session will be most appropriate." - classic project manager speak
[12:12] <zmoylan-pi> so he's signing off on overtime then? :-)
[12:19] <foobarry> 4od still broken on ubuntu :(
[12:23] <popey> 4od is broken everywhere
[12:23] <foobarry> except unrooted tablets and window i guess
[12:24] <popey> nope, its crap everywhere
[12:25] <foobarry> but does it show the programme?
[13:03] <DJones> Not sure if folks have seen this on the mailing lists lately, http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/100-off-linux-foundation-certification-for-ubuntu-users/1915
[13:03] <DJones> Hello everyone! I am happy to announce that the Linux Foundation has decided to offer $100 off their Linux Certification course to Ubuntu Members, users, and enthusiasts. This exam is normally $300 dollars. Note that this offer expires on November 7th, so you need to get in early!
[13:04] <davmor2> MooDoo: He lives in a house a very big house in the country
[13:07] <BigRedS> are the linux foundation courses well regarded? I'd never heard of them until that popped up on my facebook feed
[13:07] <foobarry> think they are new
[13:12] <awilkins> foobarry, 4od works on Ubuntu if you install some old library
[13:12] <awilkins> Can't remember what it is, but I've watched Utopia on it
[13:19] <foobarry> hal
[13:19] <foobarry> that stopped working
[13:19] <MooDoo> the linux foundation exam discount is open to all people now.
[13:20] <MooDoo> damn didn't see yours djones
[13:20] <foobarry> not really a discount, just a fake higher price then :P
[13:20] <MooDoo> well $100 off so it's £200 for the exam which is about £125
[13:20] <MooDoo> which I don't have just yet :(
[13:21] <awilkins> foobarry, The current hal package is a dummy
[13:21] <awilkins> foobarry, If you install the real hal it works again
[13:22] <awilkins> That's the "old library"
[13:25] <denny> since I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 last week, Evolution is really slow to mark spam emails and get them out of my inbox.  Used to be almost instantaneous, now it takes maybe 2 seconds, and if you click the spam button 3 times it doesn't pick up the next 2 as well, like it used to.  Any ideas?
[13:25] <foobarry> awilkins: what's the real hal?
[13:26] <awilkins> foobarry, the current hal package is just a dead dummy that replaces the old one
[13:26] <awilkins> foobarry, I can't remember the exact resolution I used, but I managed to get there with googling and poking around
[13:26] <foobarry> thanks for the headsup
[13:26] <awilkins> Might have involved getting old packages from previous releases, not sure
[13:27] <awilkins> But that sounds like the kind of thing I'd have done
[13:47] <BigRedS> oh yeah, this netflix-on-ubuntu thing, is that Chromium having some sponsored good silverlight implementation or something?
[13:48] <popey> no, it's chrome having EME
[13:48] <denny> you can play netflix on linux without silverlight now (via HTML5 video instead) by using Chrome (not Chromium) and faking your user-agent
[13:48] <popey> you dont need to fake the user agent
[13:48] <MooDoo> not any more any way
[13:48] <popey> that was fixed yesterday
[13:48] <denny> Chrome >= 0./38, which was beta last time I looked
[13:48] <BigRedS> yeah, that was my next question - how is this different from the way I've done it before
[13:48] <denny> oh ah?  awesome
[13:48] <foobarry> my g+ feed has nothing else in it today
[13:48] <foobarry> except NETFLIIIIX
[13:48]  * denny goes to disable his UA faker
[13:48] <denny> :)
[13:48] <MooDoo> BigRedS: fake the user agent = old way   just watching netflix = new way :)
[13:48] <foobarry> and the screenshots i've seen so far are people watching the programmes i already see on telly
[13:48] <BigRedS> ahhh
[13:49] <foobarry> beginning to think netflix is all hype
[13:49] <MooDoo> i must admit i was surprised it worked last night straight out the box when i upgraded to utopic
[13:50] <denny> foobarry: I don't own a TV
[13:50] <MooDoo> foobarry: starting to agree with you especially when I see more on sky
[13:50] <denny> otoh the UK stuff is SOOOOOO bar behind TV and DVD releases that it's kind of irritating.
[13:50] <denny> apparently you can fake your way into the US version with a proxy and that has more recent seasons
[13:50] <denny> tedious.
[13:50] <MooDoo> i generally just watch stuff from the states
[13:50] <foobarry> but that's US programmes :S
[13:51]  * denny leaves MooDoo and foobarry to fight that one out  ;)
[13:51] <MooDoo> well yes, not a lot of brit progs I waytch
[13:51] <foobarry> mind you, my wife and i seem to be working our way throug the 0s show on viva channel
[13:51] <foobarry> *70s
[14:30] <popey> ali1234: Sam says thanks for the xbox voucher...
[14:30] <popey> he's been off school sick today, and has been playing a game he bought
[14:30] <MooDoo> thinking of getting an xbox myself for my lad from santa
[14:31] <popey> i have an old xbox crystal which he plays a bit, and a 360
[14:31] <MooDoo> i'm after a 360, don't think he needs a one yet
[14:31] <MooDoo> only reason we want one is that disnet infinity marvel isn't available for the wii :(
[14:33] <foobarry> kensington lock
[14:33] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/GMTo0SD
[14:33] <popey> hah
[14:34] <popey> someone proving a point, or lost the key, or something stolen?
[14:34] <foobarry> me proving a point
[14:34] <foobarry> however there seem to be 2 varieties
[14:34] <foobarry> thinner and thicker
[14:35] <foobarry> took me 2 clenches to snip, much quicker than using a key
[14:37]  * popey prints out a voucher for curry tonight
[14:38] <MooDoo> yum
[14:38] <brobostigon> :)
[14:40] <zmoylan-pi> a wild night doesn't use a coupon :-)
[14:41] <foobarry> wife is going away for hen weekend
[14:41] <foobarry> i have the kids all w/end
[14:41] <foobarry> i'm already knackered
[14:46] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzF56tGYSg
[14:46] <diddledan> anyone remember that?
[14:47] <diddledan> I've just realised I have far too many windows open
[14:53] <foobarry> best way to stop ISIL?
[14:53] <foobarry> introduce ITIL. they will die out from too many managers and processes and not enough workers
[14:56] <diddledan> I am confused by all the different terms. IS, ISIS, and ISIL - what does each mean?
[14:56] <foobarry> precursors to ITIL
[14:56] <foobarry> and lack of standards
[17:52] <imexil> Hi, just installed 14.10 :) But now I need gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg for H264 support. For Trusty there was a ppa but I did not find anything for Utopic. Can anyone help?
[17:53] <directhex> imexil: h264 support in what?
[17:53] <directhex> imexil: i think 14.10 is entirely gst 1.0 by now, no?
[17:54] <imexil> I have a video cut application written in python and that needs it
[17:54] <imexil> See also http://zb.dwe.no/?6f53d117bf4cae3a#6NTwBZyCnOgBQwEYEqQAjvQkYNcCtZx+xCVpFClN5xY=
[17:55] <imexil> apparently the gst 1.0 package is not providing it.
[17:58] <imexil> Damn, gotta go. Will pop in later.
[18:07] <MooDoo> hi bye
[18:51] <davmor2> MooDoo: placebo's version of running up that hill
[18:56]  * DJones kills davmor2 Why? Couldn't be improved anyway, anyone that tried just demonstrates their lack of creatability
[18:57] <davmor2> DJones: have you listened to it?
[18:57] <DJones> No, I like kate bush, so copies/reissues etc don't interest me
[18:58] <davmor2> DJones: Kates is phenomenal I love it, but placebo's is chilling they are both great for different reason and I have both :)  and every time it is played Kate gets a cut :)
[19:03] <davmor2> DJones: honestly listen to it you are missing out on the other side to that song
[19:04] <DJones> just got it on utube
[19:10] <DJones> davmor2: Your right, it is a good cover,not quite got the same passion for me thought
[19:10] <DJones> though
[19:12] <davmor2> DJones: I didn't say it was.  Kates is still the better of the two but placebos makes the lyrics stand out and realise how sinister the words are :)  Kates makes you feel happy for hearing it :)  And she is better looking, Dances like a classical ballerina and makes you feel up beat :0
[19:12] <davmor2> :) even
[19:12] <zmoylan-pi> how many cover versions are better than the original?
[19:13] <mapps> hi all
[19:14] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: 2 Adele singing Rolling in the deep and and Lazard remix of beverly cravens promise me
[19:15] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: next
[19:15] <zmoylan-pi> sinead o'connor's nothing compares to u, but these are exceptions
[19:15] <mapps> ;]
[19:16] <denny> since I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 last week, Evolution is really slow to mark spam emails and get them out of my inbox.  Used to be almost instantaneous, now it takes maybe 2 seconds, and if you click the spam button 3 times it doesn't pick up the next 2 as well, like it used to.  Any ideas on what might be causing that / how to fix it?
[19:16] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: oh and then there is the music from forget me nots which has been replayed in about 20 tracks, in cluding men in black and George Micheals track as well
[19:17] <zmoylan-pi> denny are other apps showing signs of slowdown?  a general system slowdown?
[19:18] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2XhhuM9GZo
[19:19] <davmor2> denny: are you using spamassin or bogofilter
[19:20] <mapps> GOD DAMNIT
[19:20] <davmor2> denny: spamassassin seems to of gotten slower
[19:20] <mapps> THE NET HERE IS SO SLOW
[19:20] <davmor2> mapps: you need more cats
[19:20] <zmoylan-pi> or pigeons
[19:20] <mapps> ni
[19:20] <mapps> e
[19:21] <mapps> need my fibre to get installed =[
[19:21] <mapps> had no net since 23rd
[19:21] <mapps> been relying on wifi
[19:21] <mapps> no 3g either
[19:21] <mapps> my fibre gets installed on 24th apparently and EE unlock my phone on 23rd:D
[19:22] <davmor2> mapps: hahahaha man that sucks so hard
[19:22]  * zmoylan-pi hands end of very long pice of string to mapps :-)
[19:22] <mapps> yes it does suck
[19:22] <mapps> i got fibre at home like 3 weeks before i moved
[19:22] <mapps> LOL
[19:22] <zmoylan-pi> opera as a browser sucks but does compression servers side so might help
[19:22] <mapps> and then came here and nothing..cant even use 3g ..if i use my EE contract il get killed with charges
[19:23] <mapps> ive got unlimited eu calls and texts but had to get annew sim for data
[19:23] <mapps> i went to gib telecom and applied for adsl..everything has to be done in person..quite annoying
[19:23] <davmor2> mapps: that sucks so hard you should put it in a box and sell it as an industrial vacuum doesn't help but it might make you some money ;)
[19:23] <mapps> and she said if i signup now its 50 deposit 50 phone line 50 internet fee and 80 a month FOR 20mbit right
[19:23] <denny> zmoylan-pi: no, everything else is good.  Just upgraded RAM, and added an SSD for primary disk, so it's all nice except this.
[19:23] <mapps> and in 14 days they go to fibre 100mbit for 73 quid
[19:23] <denny> davmor2: spamassassin afaik
[19:23] <mapps> and then to swap id have to pay another 50 quid fee so i decided to wait
[19:23] <mapps> :(
[19:23] <mapps> already paying 150 in fees
[19:24] <davmor2> denny: spamassassin got really slow recently. try disabling it and enabling bogofilter instead and see if that is better for you
[19:24] <denny> I live in central London - in 'tech city' in fact - and I can't get fibre broadband.  Crazy.
[19:25] <denny> davmor2: yeah?  Okay, I'll take a look.
[19:25] <mapps> hahahah
[19:25] <mapps> really?
[19:25] <mapps> sheesh that sucks
[19:25] <mapps> 'tech city' shoreditch somewhere?
[19:25] <denny> mapps: yeah, sucks.  My girlfriend lives in Enfield, zone 5 or whatever, she has it  :)
[19:25]  * denny nods
[19:25] <mapps> i know it got that name or something
[19:25] <zmoylan-pi> but if he wants packets delivered by vaccuum tube on the other hand... :-)
[19:25] <denny> yeah, Shoreditch/Hoxton area - around Old Street
[19:25] <mapps> that super sucks denny
[19:25] <denny> zmoylan-pi: lol  :)
[19:26] <denny> it's pretty silly
[19:26] <mapps> but here man 20mbit for 83 QUID A MONTHFOPR 20MBIT IS A JOKE
[19:26] <denny> the exchange has it, half the cabinets around here have it, but the ones near me don't
[19:26] <mapps> and 150 in fees 50 installation for phone 50 install adsl 50 deposit..kinda sucks
[19:26] <davmor2> mapps: costs too much to dig up the street to lay it :)
[19:26] <mapps> so its like do i wait 14 days for 100mbit for 73 or get 20 now and pay 83 and another 50?
[19:26] <denny> those are some evil fees, yeah
[19:27] <denny> I'd wait
[19:27] <mapps> exactly
[19:27] <mapps> i desperately want the net of course
[19:27] <denny> probably chew my fingernails off in the meantime mind you
[19:27] <denny> yeah
[19:27] <mapps> im going from using it at HOME..AT WORK..AT THE GYM..ONE THE WAY TO WORK
[19:27] <zmoylan-pi> you need to breed mice and get them into the cabinet to encourage it's upgrading ;-)
[19:27] <mapps> to absolutely nothing unless i use the wifi