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cjwatsonlivecd-rootfs fixes ubuntu-touch build failures07:59
cjwatsonnot totally sure why that's still hardcoded, but not investigating that at 9am on a Saturday08:00
cjwatsonThere's one merge and three rebuilds needed for Perl 5.20.1, that I know about.  Staging in my PPA08:19
cjwatsonAnd landing08:26
cjwatson(libpar-packer-perl was auto-accepted)08:28
ogra_can someone please let this in ^^^^ so we get working touch images again11:19
ogra_stgraber, are you around ? we have a bad image on s-i12:26
asacinfinity: slangasek: stgraber: cjwatson: ^^12:26
asacogra_: whoelse?12:26
asacthere must be more12:26
ogra_asac, dunno, LP should know who is -release12:27
asacLaney: ^12:27
asacScottK: Riddell: ^^12:27
asactumbleweed: ^^12:28
asacplease check with ogra - emergency12:28
Mirvhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+members12:29
tumbleweedI could approve that, but I can't do anything about building new images12:50
ogra_tumbleweed, i can ... we just need that in12:50
tumbleweedogra_: I've seen situations where ^ii isn't exactly what is wanted, and ^.i is more accurate, but I assume you've tested this or, we use similar constructions elsewhere in that file12:51
asactumbleweed: pleae approve!!12:51
asacthanks!12:51
ogra_tumbleweed, yes i tested that on a running system12:51
tumbleweedok, approved12:52
ogra_(it will need smoe correction next week to not hardcode the 8 and 3 in the package names, but for an emergency fix it is good right now)12:52
Mirv\o/12:53
bluesabreSRU team, please release the above menulibre into trusty-proposed so we can begin verification14:05
bluesabrexfdesktop MRE has also been sitting in an unaccepted state for a while now, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/136596514:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 1365965 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "[MRE] Please update xfdesktop4 to 4.11.8 in Trusty" [Undecided,In progress]14:05
bluesabreplease let me know if there are any questions :-)14:06
infinitytumbleweed: There aren't just some situations, ^.i is *always* what you want, unless you're actually testing for the desired state (which nearly no one is)14:22
infinitytumbleweed: Luckily, in the case of livecd-rootfs, it's pretty unlikely that a package will be on hold, etc.14:22
infinityogra_: post-accept review of that upload.  Why are you manually setting the alternative if you've also made sure the right packages are installed?  Seems redundant?14:23
ogra_infinity, i didnt make sure the right packages are installed ... there is dependency breakage that pulled the -mesa packages in additionally14:24
infinityogra_: Oh, you mean you're getting both now?14:24
ogra_infinity, and depending on the  order apt installs tem in the chroot you might end up with the wrong alternative14:24
ogra_right14:24
infinityGross.14:24
infinityPlease fix that?  Having useless packages installed is silly.14:24
ogra_we need to fix the dep ... but i cant do a quick upload of mir14:25
* infinity nods.14:25
ogra_so as emergency fix forcing the alternative is ok14:25
infinityYeah, that's fine, as long as the better fix is on the TODO.14:25
ogra_and long term it will save us from the same issue if -mesa slips in again14:25
ogra_(well, after i fixed the matching in the code ... that hardcoded numbers in tteh package names indeed need to go)14:26
ogra_for now getting the phones out there to boot again is #1 prio :)14:26
infinityogra_: And the other bit, tumbleweed's mention of ^.i instead of ^ii is true.  We don't actually have anything on the livefses that's in a state other than ^i, but who knows if someone might decide to change that for some specific image for some weird reason, even if just a temp hack in a hook.  Better to always use the form that means what you want.14:26
infinityogra_: But also not a big deal.14:26
ogra_well, i shoul dprobably drop the whole check14:27
ogra_so that the build actually fails if the -android packages are not there14:27
* infinity nods.14:27
infinityIt's also, again, redundant because you ask for them by name in the install pass.14:27
ogra_but it felt safer for an emergency fix to do it with a check for the moment14:27
infinityBut I imagine seeds might eventually do that right and you'll remove that.14:27
ogra_right14:28
infinityBut yes, checking if a package is installed before doing a mandatory thing with it will miss errors, as you say.14:28
ogra_well, i would like to keep forcing the alternative to make it future proof, as i said14:28
infinityCould you not just make the android alternative prio higher?14:29
infinityThis is one of those cases where I can't see why a desktop user would ever install the android package.14:29
infinitySo it's safe to assume that if you install the android one, that's the one you want to win.14:29
ogra_yeah, i dont think our issue are the desktop users that install stuff ... but the desktop-next seed14:34
ogra_(which needs to use mesa)14:34
ogra_theoretically there should always be a seed entry for -android in touch and -mesa in desktop-next14:35
ogra_but if the package gets updated without seed change alongside such crap can happen14:35
tumbleweedinfinity: what I meant was situations where it ^ii doesn't work at all :)21:22

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