[07:12] <Mat_56432> Hello.
[08:47] <davmor2> hey guys just updated to the lastest rtm and I'm stuck on bq logo
[08:48] <davmor2> ogra_: you about ^
[09:15] <anpok_> yay
[09:15] <anpok_> me too
[09:15] <anpok_> on both phones
[09:20] <gigix> hi guys, since recently I have not been able to update any of my apps on my utouch nexus 4
[09:20] <gigix> when I adb shell to it and run apt-get update I get a large bunch of 404
[09:21] <gigix> has anything changed in the repos lately ?
[09:23] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:27] <anpok_> gigix: you should not use apt-get update / upgrade on the phone
[09:27] <anpok_> use ubuntu-device-flash or the update functionality accessible via system-settings instead
[09:27] <gigix> which I have done first
[09:28] <gigix> I have 17 upgrades, none of which works
[09:28] <gigix> the menu bar just keeps saying "installing"
[09:28] <anpok_> click package updates?
[09:28] <gigix> that's it
[09:28] <anpok_> hmm
[09:28] <ogra_> re-create your U1 account
[09:28] <ogra_> (there was a mail about this a while ago)
[09:29] <gigix> ok I'll try that now
[09:29] <anpok_> ogra_: any clue how to resolve the boot issue that came with latest rtm?
[09:31] <gigix> ogra_, seems to be working
[09:31] <gigix> thanks
[09:31] <gigix> will i have to recreate my u1 everytime I need to do an update ?
[09:34] <ogra_> no
[09:54] <ogra_> anpok_, see the mailing list
[10:02] <davmor2> ogra_: I had a niggling feeling it might be mesa
[10:03] <ogra_> well, i havent proven that theory yet :)
[10:03]  * ogra_ waits for his download to finish ... to flash a test mako
[10:03] <davmor2> ogra_: I'm prepared to bet money it is
[10:03] <ogra_> it has a high likelyness, yeah
[10:04] <ogra_> but i need to see where the alternative points to, to be sure
[10:04] <davmor2> ogra_: I hit it with the silo but we all thought the seed pulled in only mir-android
[10:04] <ogra_> davmor2, well, its not a seed issue :)
[10:05] <ogra_> it used to have a strict versioned depenedency that was dropped
[10:05] <davmor2> ogra_: I think there was a bug for it and the mir guys were changing the packaging accordingly
[10:05] <ogra_> davmor2, see ML :)
[10:06] <davmor2> ogra_: shuggin fashin shuggin fashin
[10:07] <davmor2> ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1378995
[10:09] <davmor2> ogra_: so it looks like that needs to land Monday or erm now
[10:09] <davmor2> :)
[10:09] <davmor2> anyway back to diy
[10:17] <anpok_> ogra_: which one?
[10:17] <ogra_> which what ?
[10:17] <anpok_> which ml?
[10:17] <ogra_> oh,. mailing list ?
[10:17] <ogra_> ubuntu-phone indeed
[10:18] <ogra_> oh man, seems *all* alternatives point to meas
[10:18] <ogra_> *mesa
[10:19]  * ogra_ was hoping to be able to provide a one liner as workaround ... but thats a little bigger
[10:20] <ogra_> ok, only two it seems
[10:20] <ogra_> arm-linux-gnueabihf_mirplatform3driver_conf and arm-linux-gnueabihf_mirclient8driver_conf
[10:30] <ogra_> ok, purging libmirclient8driver-mesa and libmirplatform3driver-mesa from the image helps
[10:30] <ogra_> just unsetting the alternative didnt
[11:08] <ogra_> bah +
[11:08] <ogra_> now that i'm done with the code i see cjwatson already did something similar
[11:09] <ogra_> oh, wait, only half of it
[11:14] <ogra_> ok, uploaded
[11:14]  * ogra_ will return later and push that change to rtm (once it is in the archive)
[13:26] <rigved> hi
[13:27] <rigved> how can i download the latest image for flo from this location: https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/devel/flo/ . I am getting access forbidden on that URL.
[13:28] <ogra_> rigved, there are issues with the latest image we turned off the server temporary until the issue is fixed
[13:28] <ogra_> please be patient
[13:29] <ogra_> (see the ubuntu-phone mailing list for details)
[13:31] <rigved> ohh ok thanks for the update.
[13:31] <rigved> is there any previous build which i can use in the meantime? maybe from cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[13:31] <ogra_> nope
[13:32] <Tassadar> ogra_: was the image broken for every device or just *thatnewoneIcan'tremember*? If so, do you know which version is it for mako?
[13:33] <ogra_> Tassadar, everyone i think
[13:33] <ogra_> a -mesa package sliped into the rootfs and stole the alternatives setting for some UI driver
[13:33] <Tassadar> hm, 82, it is already on tasemnice, I should remove it then
[13:34] <ogra_> yup
[13:34] <Tassadar> not many people use rtm-proposed on my server anyway, I think
[13:35] <rigved> ya i'm not able to install touch using the multirom manager app either. guess it's because of this reason
[13:36] <Tassadar> plus, the VPS provider appears to be under some kind of DDoS/managed to screw up once again, so I doubt anyone is able to download anything from it right now xD
[13:37] <rigved> :O
[13:40] <Tassadar> there, version 82 removed
[13:40] <gcollura> why did you put down the server? why not just remove the broken image? (just asking out of curiosity :)
[13:43] <Tassadar> there probably was nobody who can do that available
[13:43] <gcollura> understood
[13:44] <Tassadar> (I'm just guessing though)
[13:45] <rickspencer3> hey all, so my My Photos scope isn't loading any photos
[13:45] <rickspencer3> can anyone suggest the right place to log the bug?
[13:49] <rickspencer3> whoops
[13:49] <asac> dont tell me
[13:49] <rickspencer3> asac, hey
[13:49] <rickspencer3> nah, my photos aren't loading in one of my scopes
[13:50] <rickspencer3> asac, I assume that when you say "bricked" you can actually recover using ubuntu-device-flash ?
[13:50] <asac> rickspencer3: once we have a fixed image, yes
[13:50] <rickspencer3> asac, right
[13:50] <asac> well, i dont know for sure how recover will work; we will send instructions
[13:51] <rickspencer3> asac, well, I'll wait for the all clear :)
[13:51] <asac> rickspencer3: besides all the post0mortem that has to happen, we should ensure that all non-techy users are not on -proposed channels
[13:51] <rickspencer3> I'm sure whatever is wrong, it will get sorted
[13:51]  * asac worried about beta testers
[13:51] <rickspencer3> asac, beta testers only get promoted images
[13:51] <asac> uff
[13:51] <asac> rickspencer3: silbs too?
[13:51] <rickspencer3> asac, no, silbs is getting daily updates
[13:51] <asac> at least some good news :)
[13:52] <rickspencer3> but ... this is the risk you take
[13:52] <asac> ack.
[13:52] <rickspencer3> if you want the latest crack, you gotta accept the risks
[13:52] <rickspencer3> asac, nice that it's on a long weekend
[13:53] <asac> of course. what can we expect
[13:58] <rickspencer3> asac,  is there a link to the email message?
[13:59] <rickspencer3> I don't want to go into my email because I am afraid I will get stuck in there working :)
[13:59] <asac> rickspencer3: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg10173.html
[13:59] <rickspencer3> thanks asa
[13:59] <rickspencer3> thanks asac
[13:59] <ogra_> long weekend ?
[13:59] <ogra_> oh, you USians celebrate that this guy got lost :)
[14:02] <rickspencer3> ogra_, so, yeah, the US has a holiday called Columbus day
[14:02] <ogra_> right
[14:02] <ogra_> :)
[14:02] <rickspencer3> which is a substitute for May Day
[14:03] <rickspencer3> because we fear the proletariat :)
[14:03] <ogra_> i thought you have a labour day too
[14:03] <rickspencer3> ogra_, yeah, sorry, I was making a lame joke
[14:04] <ogra_> :)
[14:06] <asac> rickspencer3: you have labor day too, dont you?
[14:07] <rickspencer3> asac, right
[14:07] <rickspencer3> well, sort of
[14:07] <rickspencer3> I mean, we don't celebrate "labor" in any way, it's just a day off
[14:07] <asac> heh
[14:07] <rickspencer3> and May 1, which is celebrated in the rest of the world, commemorates an event that happened in the US, I think
[14:11] <asac> rickspencer3: i looked it up at some points. the US started this event in october
[14:12] <asac> and next year may europe went crazy
[14:12] <rickspencer3> ah
[14:12] <asac> unless i completely got it wrong
[14:12] <rickspencer3> dang it
[14:12] <asac> back then it just took half a year for the info to spread that there was a revolution  :)
[14:13] <asac> on the other side of the atlantic
[14:13] <rickspencer3> asac, that violates my preconception that the US is always afraid of workers' rights
[14:13] <rickspencer3> so, I choose to continue on with my false beliefs
[14:13] <rickspencer3> it's the easiest way to deal with the cognitive dissonance
[14:17] <ogra_> workers rights ?
[14:18] <ogra_> socialism !!!
[14:22] <asac> rickspencer3: i think one reason why US forgot about that idea more than EU could be because US didnt have big devastation from world wars where many experienced that even if you are good middleclass or even rich you can be poor and starving tomorrow :)
[14:23] <asac> anyway, topic for another day
[14:23] <asac> hehe
[14:23] <rickspencer3> or our rich people have better propaganda :)
[14:23] <ogra_> haha
[14:28]  * rickspencer3 considers making an ebola scope
[14:28] <rickspencer3> http://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/disease/ebola/en/
[15:41] <rickspencer3> asac, I just got a notification for an update, do you want me to try it?
[15:42] <asac> rickspencer3: if its #99 yes
[15:42] <asac> dont install #98 :)
[15:42] <rickspencer3> asac, how can I tell which version it is?
[15:42] <asac> we already testesd it so should work
[15:42] <rickspencer3> oh
[15:42] <asac> rickspencer3: you should see after downloading
[15:42] <rickspencer3> where is says "99" ?
[15:42] <rickspencer3> lol
[15:43] <asac> rickspencer3: before hitting install
[15:43] <asac> yeah
[15:43] <rickspencer3> I *guess* it could be more clear ;)
[15:43]  * rickspencer3 tries
[15:43] <rickspencer3> wow, 91.6 Megs
[15:43] <rickspencer3> big one
[15:43] <asac> yeah, think a bunch of 9/10 milestone landings that were trailing are in that.
[15:44] <asac> but now the door is closed
[15:45] <rickspencer3> asac, it seemed to have rebooted fine
[15:46] <asac> rickspencer3: ack :P
[15:46] <rickspencer3> and now there are little dots on some of my launcher items
[15:46] <rickspencer3> thanks goodness
[15:46] <rickspencer3> I was just thinking, "these launcher items need dots"
[15:46] <asac> hah
[15:46] <rickspencer3> system settings says that I am on r99
[15:46] <rickspencer3> so, whatever happened, seems to be fixed
[15:47] <asac> yeah at least one can boot it seems
[15:47] <rickspencer3> asac, anything I should look at specifically?
[15:48] <asac> not for the firedrill problem
[15:48] <asac> the problem was that it didnt boot
[15:48] <rickspencer3> asac, right ... I'm past that :)
[15:48] <asac> yay!
[15:48] <asac> thanks for confirm
[15:49] <asac> i am too on #99
[15:49] <rickspencer3> I thought there might be some cool new feature that you thought we should check out?
[15:49] <asac> we can go again go back to regression hunting
[15:49] <rickspencer3> oops
[15:49] <rickspencer3> asac, try manage scopes -> all
[15:49] <asac> rickspencer3: i didnt have time to really look what went in yeterday :)
[15:49] <asac> and just wanted to get it boot today so far
[15:49] <asac> hehe
[15:49]  * asac checks
[15:50] <asac> oha
[15:50] <asac> indeed
[15:50] <rickspencer3> whoops
[15:51] <asac> lets call thostr too :P
[15:51] <asac> hehe
[15:51] <rickspencer3> asac, maybe a text would be appropriate :)
[15:51] <asac> now that i worked all saturday i want more folks to help clean dirt
[15:51] <asac> j.k.
[15:51] <rickspencer3> not me
[15:51] <rickspencer3> I will log a bug and text him
[15:51] <asac> rickspencer3: please complain about the scope. i am waiting for final confirm for recovery instructions, then send mail and go off
[15:51] <asac> i will leave this to you
[15:52] <asac> all i needed was a working phone for travel on monday
[15:52] <asac> so folks can text me in brussels
[15:52]  * asac will send himself a mup sms
[15:53] <asac> good. sms work well, notification bubble and sound played
[15:53] <asac> rickspencer3: so for the scopes, this looks like cut off textures,
[15:53] <asac> rickspencer3: i know that mir landed
[15:53] <asac> so maybe that landing and not a scope landing
[15:54] <asac> i assume that Qa would have spotted this for a scope landing
[15:54] <asac> but not for mir
[15:54] <rickspencer3> interesting
[15:54] <rickspencer3> asac, let me log the bug and then notify olli
[15:54] <asac> rickspencer3: point is that mir landing wasnt ready and signed off by
[15:54] <asac> QA
[15:54] <rickspencer3> asac, right, I grocked that :)
[15:54] <asac> rickspencer3: there was a process glitch
[15:54] <asac> rickspencer3: that mir landing is what caused our no-boot brteakage
[15:55] <asac> but QA nacked it
[15:55] <rickspencer3> ok
[15:55] <asac> so it was published by accident, but couldnt be backed out
[15:55] <rickspencer3> I'll log the bug against Unity and let olli sort our the bodies
[15:56] <asac> yeah
[15:58] <rickspencer3> asac, before you go can you please quickly confirm this bug?
[15:58] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1380120
[15:59] <asac> rickspencer3: i commented that i see the same
[15:59] <rickspencer3> thanks asac
[15:59] <asac> marked it as confirmed
[15:59] <rickspencer3> I've cried wolf so many times :)
[15:59] <asac> marked it critical
[15:59] <asac> tagged it rtm14
[16:00] <asac> now process should kick in :)
[16:00] <asac> victor should be all over it, pushing people to get it fixed and all
[16:00] <asac> lol
[16:00] <asac> maybe see what happens
[16:01] <rickspencer3> well, I text *both* of olli's mobile numbers :)
[16:10]  * popey upgrades
[16:12] <popey> only 32MB here...
[17:29] <taiebot> mzanetti: Do you know where i can find the radio channel from the Live tv feed on xbmc remote?
[17:31] <gcollura> is devel-proposed image #277 broken on mako?
[17:32] <taiebot> gcollura: i am upgrading will tell you in few  min
[17:33] <taiebot> gcollura: booted here with no problems
[17:38] <taiebot> mzanetti: looks like its missing I have TV channels and recording on the LI. While I should have TV channels, Radio channels and recordings
[19:37] <rickspencer3> can anyone tell me how to get my welcome screen working again?
[19:37] <rickspencer3> I'm getting tired of "no data sources available"
[19:37] <rickspencer3> and the workaround in this bug report didn't fix it :/
[19:37] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libusermetrics/+bug/1372502
[19:42] <popey> rickspencer3: can't even get to that bug report, lp seems to be unresponsive for me
[19:42] <rickspencer3> wow, I'm breaking everything I touch today
[19:42] <popey> bah, not it works
[19:42] <rickspencer3> I just crashed unity 8 too :)
[19:43] <popey> -rw-r--r-- 1 usermetrics usermetrics 15360 Oct 11 16:59 usermetrics6.db
[19:43] <rickspencer3> and now media-hub service is using 98% of a cpu
[19:43] <popey> oh the dash is very crashy at the moment
[19:43] <popey> is your usermetrics db appropriately permissioned?
[19:44] <rickspencer3> popey, yes, I applied jdstrand's work around in the bug report
[19:44] <rickspencer3> -rw-r--r-- 1 usermetrics usermetrics 17408 Oct 11 15:38 usermetrics6.db
[19:44] <rickspencer3> (and I've taken a picture and sent a text to make sure there was some data :) )
[19:45] <popey> is the usermetricsservice running?
[19:45] <popey> usermet+  2201  0.3  0.4  35576  4548 ?        S    20:44   0:00 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libusermetrics/usermetricsservice
[19:45] <rickspencer3> interesting question
[19:45] <rickspencer3> me looks
[19:46] <rickspencer3> popey,
[19:46] <rickspencer3> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ps -A | grep metrics
[19:46] <rickspencer3>  2257 ?        00:00:00 usermetricsserv
[19:46] <popey> hm
[19:48]  * rickspencer3 tries one more restart
[19:48] <popey> krillin rtm 99 right?
[19:49] <rickspencer3> no love :/
[19:49] <rickspencer3> popey, yeah
[19:49] <popey> hmm
[19:50] <rickspencer3> popey, it can wait until Monday or Tuesday
[19:50] <popey> good, because I have no idea ㋛
[19:50] <rickspencer3> heh
[19:50] <rickspencer3> popey, I take it it's working fine for you?
[19:50] <popey> yes
[19:50] <rickspencer3> good
[19:50] <popey> i have had it break in the past
[19:50] <popey> wonder if the db is screwed
[19:51] <rickspencer3> maybe the db format changed or something
[19:51] <popey> ok, lets see...
[19:55] <popey> rickspencer3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8541487/ you get same results?
[19:56] <rickspencer3> let me check
[19:56] <rickspencer3> I just copied the database to my desktop and was about to browse it :)
[19:57] <rickspencer3> popey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8541495/
[20:01] <rickspencer3> looks pretty much the same
[20:01] <rickspencer3> I'll just keep living with it until next week :)(
[20:01] <popey> maybe back the db up and delete it rickspencer3 ?
[20:01] <popey> see if a new one gets made which is "fixed"
[20:01] <rickspencer3> not a bad idea
[20:01] <rickspencer3> can't really hurt, I guess
[20:02] <rickspencer3> popey, I notice I only have 7 rows in my data set :/
[20:02] <popey> one per app, surely?
[20:03] <popey> i have 7 too
[20:03] <popey> inbound texts, outbound texts, in calls, out calls, music, photos, minutes in calls...
[20:04] <rickspencer3> oh, that's good
[20:04] <rickspencer3> popey, well, moving the db aside, it generated a new one after I took a pic, but it didn't start working :)
[20:04]  * rickspencer3 shrugs
[20:05] <popey> ☹ probably needs a reboot
[20:05] <popey> or service restart
[20:05]  * rickspencer3 reboots
[20:05] <popey> clutching at straws here
[20:05] <popey> sorry.
[20:05] <rickspencer3> popey, no worries, I'm actually pretty surprised you;re sticking with it ;)
[20:06] <popey> wifey out, sat here drinking beer and watching telly ☻
[20:06] <rickspencer3> dang it
[20:06] <rickspencer3> reboot didn't "fix" it
[20:06]  * rickspencer3 moves on
[20:06] <popey> kk
[20:07] <rickspencer3> thanks anyway popey
[20:12] <popey> np
[20:12] <popey> back to beer...
[20:20] <popey> rickspencer3: something that sprung to mind - one could populate that database with some nice data for demo purposes, to show the welcome screen at its best
[20:41] <cwayne> popey: that
[20:41] <cwayne> 's exactly what we did for MWC :)
[20:42] <popey> heh
[20:50] <rickspencer3> in any case, it shouldn't say "No data sources available"
[20:50] <rickspencer3> it looks like an error
[22:07] <nosh> hello
[23:13] <nosh1> hello can some one help
[23:14] <nosh1> i just installed touch on maguro device but it take 14gb in system settings how can i free space i only have 3 gb left on device and no sd card option
[23:16] <nosh1> no one to answer
[23:19] <gcollura> nosh1, most of the devs are european, and it's 1am here :)
[23:19] <gcollura> sorry if I can't help, are you sure there aren't any old files from a previous android installation?
[23:19] <nosh1> i am sorry but its 2.20am here where i am sitting
[23:20] <gcollura> eheh :)
[23:20] <nosh1> yes maybe because i dint delete anything just installed touch
[23:20] <nosh1> lol
[23:20] <nosh1> devs never sleep u know
[23:20] <nosh1> i am not good at programing but good on testing
[23:20] <nosh1> i have to wipe cache and factory sttings from recovery ?
[23:21] <gcollura> delete data and everything (do a backup first if you need it)
[23:21] <simosx> nosh1, 14gb is too much space. Did you identify what is taking it up?
[23:21] <nosh1> becaue of low space my apps ot working
[23:22] <nosh1> in system settings only it says ubuntu take 14 gb space
[23:22] <nosh1> i dont know how just downloaded 269 image maguro 2 times and installed
[23:24] <nosh1> total space 16.9 free space 2.9 used by ubuntu 14gb otherfiles 19mb this is in about phone storage section
[23:26] <nosh1> i want to go office in morning 6 oclock please help and just tell i have to delete and clean from recovery or there is anyoption in ubuntu touch to delete files and things like in android
[23:28] <nosh1> evs any sujjestions please
[23:30] <gcollura> nosh1, if you have nothing to save try to wipe everything (yes, everything) and than flash ubuntu phone again
[23:30] <nosh1> wipe from recovery ? because ubuntu phone is working
[23:31] <nosh1> i am wondering there is option in ubuntu to wipe data and reset ?
[23:31] <nosh1> i cant find it
[23:31] <gcollura> I may have had a similar problem once on mako switching from android to ubuntu touch, I solve by deleting everything on the device
[23:31] <gcollura> There's a reset phone option in SystemSettings
[23:31] <nosh1> ok how i dont have anything to save just wanaa use ubuntu smoothly
[23:32] <gcollura> but I think it doesn't do what you need
[23:32] <nosh1> where is the option
[23:33] <nosh1> in about phone ?
[23:33] <nosh1> or sytem
[23:33] <nosh1> sytem shows battery time date security updates
[23:34] <gcollura> http://i.imgur.com/FibayW0.png
[23:35] <nosh1> thanks for pic
[23:35] <nosh1> but i dont have this option
[23:35] <nosh1> only about phone is last
[23:35] <gcollura> ok I understand. you could try to boot to recovery, format everything including system, data, cache..
[23:35] <nosh1> ok
[23:36] <gcollura> and then flash ubuntu (you need to, if you format the system)
[23:36] <nosh1> can i do this by adb on ubuntu desktop
[23:36] <gcollura> I don't think so, adb reboot-recovery
[23:36] <nosh1> ok
[23:36] <nosh1> thanks alot
[23:36] <nosh1> i will try it
[23:37] <gcollura> sorry, adb reboot-bootloader
[23:37] <gcollura> then recovery mode
[23:37] <nosh1> then i have to download boot strap file and image for maguro again ?
[23:37] <nosh1> or just device-flash channel comand ?
[23:37] <gcollura> the one you already have should be okay
[23:37] <nosh1> ok just give me the flash comand
[23:38] <nosh1> because when ever i give the comand it download again
[23:39] <gcollura> it shouldn't, ubuntu-device-flash saves the file it downloads and it uses them if their not outdated
[23:39] <gcollura> they are*
[23:39] <gcollura> sorry I'm a bit sleepy
[23:39] <nosh1> ok
[23:40] <nosh1> thanks collura
[23:40] <nosh1> see u tomorrow
[23:40] <nosh1> when i do all this
[23:40] <nosh1> because at this time i have to sleep too
[23:40] <gcollura> just found out there is adb reboot recovery
[23:40] <nosh1> what ?
[23:40] <nosh1> then
[23:40] <gcollura> a command to boot directly into recovery
[23:41] <nosh1> yea i know this one
[23:41] <nosh1> i will try in morning tomorrow
[23:41] <gcollura> ok good night
[23:41] <nosh1> and then i will come back to tell u
[23:41] <nosh1> good night
[23:41] <nosh1> nice dreams