that is clickable and dragable [06:37] which is why the other guy said maybe a graphics issue [06:37] i have not [06:37] chaotix: have you tried disabling hardware acceleration? [06:38] ill check that too [06:38] i am going to save the log from this channel and try everything you suggest when the memtest is done [06:39] ok [06:39] then report back :) [06:39] it is 41 min in, but someone else said let it go all night [06:39] do you agree? [06:39] well i do it mostly for max 2hours [06:39] ok [06:39] that works [06:39] for my server i used it for over 6h [06:39] but i dont think its memory related [06:40] if the system still works [06:40] does the amount of ram i have make a difference in how long i should run memtest? [06:40] chaotix: yes [06:40] ok [06:40] thanks for all the help [06:40] no problem [06:40] are you in here all the time? [06:40] mostly, yes [06:40] but not today :> [06:41] hey, i ran phoronix test suite on a different computer, are you familliar with it? [06:42] with the test suite, yes. [06:42] i thought i was done and making a report now, but it is still going [06:42] heres the pasebin: [06:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8537516/ [06:43] how long will this go for? [06:43] i thought i was done and now just saving a report [06:45] cant, tell. I Just know it exists, but never used it [06:46] oh i see [06:46] i was just testing it out [06:46] so what is your d-o-c? [06:46] (distro of choice) [06:46] lol [06:47] like drug of choice hehe [06:47] i am a bit tired [06:47] mine is: Desktop - Kubuntu, Laptop - Xubuntu [06:50] nice [06:51] i like ubuntu and it's derivatives most, and my fav d.e. is probably mate, but i have been using unity a lot lately [06:51] i got used to it when i put it on my tv... it worked great with keyboard commands and tied in to my remote control [06:52] i would like to get more accustomed to KDE... i just havent been able to manage it in the past [06:52] i dont know what it is.. but it looks so feature rich and awesome.. [06:54] best DE IMHO :) [07:14] baizon, i am going to sleep for a while.. i will check back in am.. thanks for all the helpful tips, i will let you know how it goes [07:26] hi guys! i just installed XFCE environment on linux mint, i guess i could ask a question about thunar here. what i want to do is disable the auto-arrange feature when called from desktop's context menu named as "arrange desktop icons". i have already downloaded thunar source code but i can not see to find the location where this function is. [07:26] !mint | enli, # [07:26] enli, #: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [07:27] cfhowlett: i understand, this is related to thunar file manager. [07:27] please re-read. [07:28] what would a good channel to get help on dev related things? [07:28] enli: try #xfce ? [07:29] baizon: sure, will try. [07:32] How do I restart the bluetooth input services? Whenever I try to connect my keyboard, I get an error saying "Host is down" [07:35] baizon: thanks for the suggestion. got a suggestion to look into xfdesktop package which is correct, not thunar package. [07:36] Churuya-san: try sudo service bluetooth restart (you can tab after service to see what services are available if bluetooth doesn't exist) [07:39] elfy: Thanks, but that didn't help. I still don't have an option to connect the keyboard to input services. (This option was avilable and the keyboard worked prior to the latest kernel update.) Choosing to "Refresh Services" gives a "Host is down" error. [07:48] Churuya-san: sorry - don't know much about bluetooth - if no-one else answers try in #ubuntu [07:48] Will do, thanks [09:35] Hi [09:37] New to Linux. facing an issue with desktop after updating XUbuntu 14.04 [09:38] after updating and rebooting, the desktop now has an unclickable area on the right side like an overlay [09:38] http://i.stack.imgur.com/JedAD.png [09:39] please help with the same [09:40] xubuntu22w, dual monitors? [09:40] no. using just one which is my laptop screen [09:44] does a relog fix the desktop? [09:45] nope [09:57] xubuntu22w: does the problem affect other user accounts or the guest session? [09:57] yes it does [09:58] I guess you should take a look at /var/log/apt/history.log and check which packages have been updated [10:03] its a big list actually. the update size was almost 400 mb. And I'm very new :) can you please tell me what to look for? [10:07] you could upload the list to a pastebin service [10:07] !paste [10:07] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:08] but with this amount of applied updates.. it could take some time to find the culprit [10:09] here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8538342/ [10:09] no problem. thanks so much! [10:15] not easy to tell [10:15] I would suggest that you try to boot an older kernel [10:15] downgrading the graphics driver might be not that easy [10:16] yes. I was thinking it was the screen resolution but maybe thats not true [10:16] ok [10:17] anyways. thanks for your input [10:17] hopefully you'll find a fix for this glitch :) [10:18] :) [11:40] hi, my xubuntu went automatically to "login screen", was it light locker, or how could I disable it [11:50] nvt_: go to settings manager > light locker settings [11:50] yes, I found that, but I was just checking if that functionality was actually the light locker or not :) [11:50] bit annoying sinec it's remote laptop, and wouldn't like it to get to go to login screen automatically [11:51] I guess so, please read http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/ [11:51] ok, thanks === Churuya-1 is now known as Churuya-san [14:05] does changer your file browser change your copy/move dialogs as well? for example, would replacing xfdesktop and thunar with nemo give you nemo's copy/move dialogs? [14:05] changing* [19:40] Hello. I don't see how to edit the Whisker Menu with MenuLibre. How does one use MenuLibre? [19:50] xubuntu88w: right click on whiskermenu - edit applications [19:54] Or Settings>Menu Editor...same thing :) [19:56] indeed :) [19:57] Thank you. I know that. I have it up but can't modify any menu item displayed--or not displayed--in Whisker Menu. How do I use MenuLibre to put an omitted item in Whisker? [19:59] http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=menulibre_usage [20:02] Thanks. I've seen those instructions and used them. I believe that it didn't work, but I'll try it again. It definitely is NOT easy; it's a pain in the #~!,*. Far from drag-'n-drop, as with alacarte. [20:03] can't say I actually have any problems with it tbh [20:04] TBH, it's not the most intuitive app I've ever seen...that said, I really don't have any problems using it. :) [20:05] oh - just had a thought xubuntu88w - you using trusty? [20:05] oh nvm - sorry - almost fed you a bum steer [20:10] Yes, 14.04. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [20:11] there was an SRU pending - but it's not got to -proposed [21:09] I'm still trying to figure out how to get the System Updater entry instalaled in the System category of Whisker. I've created the launcher and matched its charistics with those of MenuLibre's displayed System Updater entry, but it still doesn't show up in Whisker. [21:10] MenuLibre's instructions are as clear as mud. [21:12] xubuntu88w, remove all categories except "System" and save [21:12] (from that launcher) [21:12] For that matter, why the hell isn't the System Updater in the Whisker menu by default anyway? [21:14] because of the way the menu is structured, this is a known issue in trusty, and fixed in the upcoming utopic. If a launcher is found in the Settings Manager, its not in whisker menu [21:14] Thank you, bluesabre. That did it. Why did that work? Why was deleting those other categories necessary? Why, e.g., doesn't that launcher show up in those other listed categories? [21:15] because of the way the XDG Desktop Menu spec is set up, and the way the categories are defined in the menu files. Some of those extra categories place it into the settings manager instead of the System menu [21:16] simplifying the categories helps get around some of those rules [21:18] Will that fix get retrofitted to 14.04? I don't want my computer-illiterate friend to have to worry about upgrades every nine months. [21:19] Or to have to upgrade it myself. [21:21] stick with LTS releases. 3 years support [21:22] Now I want to put Software Sources into Whisker's System menu. Can't I just modify MenuLibre's entry of it in order to put it into Whisker/System? [21:23] yes, if you limit the categories to System it should display there as well [21:30] Well, I went through the single-step by step rigamarole to put it in there. Again, why on earth wouldn't those items be in Whisker by default? [21:32] Oh, and rearranging the entries doesn't work, either. I've put VLC at the top of MenuLibre's Multimedia category, but it still appears at the bottom of Whisker's. [21:32] two different menu lists [21:33] Save seems not to work. [21:33] there's several issues with the current menulibre in trusty... 2.0.6 has resolved a large number of issues, but has not landed in the official updates yet. [21:41] Should I infer that they will--soon? [21:41] infer all you like [21:42] Also, regarding your saying that simply removing all categories except System for Software Sources should put it in Whisker's System menu, what would that do to all those other categories? I.e., what all other effects would that have? [21:42] try it and see