=== RedDeath is now known as Guest99309 [03:32] hey guys i tried to install LXLE on i686 and it wont let me it tells me to get right version for my CPU, but i can only find 64b and 32b i cant find i686 ??? any tips ?? [03:34] the 32 bit is for i686 and LXLE isn't supported here [03:36] oh this is lubuntu ? [03:36] cause LXLE is better then lubuntu i just assumed it overtook lubuntu [03:37] thanks for your help anyway you rude cunt :) [07:03] how to backup sources list & key certs? [08:33] hi can anyone give me a url for setting up compiz on Lubuntu 14.04.1 desktop [09:30] is this thing on??? [09:50] Zenfu31: it is [10:17] okay, i see that lubuntu uses openbox [10:18] i'm essentially looking to try the desktop cube [10:18] but have no idea on how to go about it [10:20] k, just found it [10:20] under preferences [10:24] okay, any help on remote desktop connection in lubuntu 14.04.1 ? [14:45] when i try to run desktop preferences, i got a "Desktop manager is not active" error. i did some googling and attempted to reinstall pcmanfm, as that seemed to be a common solution. Now, pcmanfm doesn't run, I get the same popup error when I try to run it from gui or terminal. all i wanted to do was fix my suspend time out, and now i've broken things even more :( [14:50] sheena1: create a new user, - name it "test" and set password. Then logout and do a login with the new username and check if the desktop is broken there too. If its ok for the new user, then your usersettings are broken (misconfigured). [14:51] ok. [14:51] when i try to use user settings GUI, it is unresponsive when i click "add". is there a command line way to do this? [14:53] testdr: when i open it with sudo users-admin, it just hangs and doesnt finish opening [14:53] sheena1: yes - shure there is - but it looks like you have more broken. You are shure you did a default installation of LUbunut-14.04? Do you have the install-system(live-system on CD/USB) to check the live-version? [14:54] i did the default install. it worked fine half an hour ago, until i reinstalled pcman [14:54] sheena1: did you do a logout? And what is with the guest-user-account? Can you use this on login? [14:55] i will reboot and beright back [15:00] testdr: um, now things are really broken [15:00] i have no taskbar, eveything is different/weird, ... [15:01] the only way to open stuff is to right click my desktop to open a terminal emulator [15:01] sheena1: you are using 2 computers? One for this irc-channel? [15:01] on the plus side, pcmanfm will oepn now! [15:01] nope, i used the terminl to run pidgin, which is how i use IRC [15:03] sheena1: ok - same computer - if you have not already stored a lot (it was a new installation?), then you can in a terminal move your local config out of way - then logout (NOT reboot) and login again [15:03] it was a clean install, but several months ago [15:03] my home directory is separate [15:03] im nto sure about the config? [15:04] running lxpanel in terminal makes my panel come back [15:04] sheena1: any backups? Or can you now swith to the guest-user-account? [15:04] shwitch [15:04] switch [15:05] when i went into the guest account, it was the same.. no panel, etc [15:06] sheena1: broken! Could be from no more space to other things. Have run the updates? Last time? [15:07] no space? like, hard drive space? [15:07] i just did update yeah [15:07] yep [15:07] when was the last update? [15:08] 28gb free on my home partition, says disks [15:09] 16gb free on my OS partition (root) [15:09] maybe yesterday? im not sure [15:09] you can do following, you switch to terminal with hotkey strg+alt+F1 and login there, thats no graphics and make a: sudo apt-get update [15:09] sheena1: you may do it in the xterm [15:10] its running [15:10] i will not paste the output ;) [15:10] it is done [15:10] Fetched 838 kB in 8s (98.9 kB/s) [15:10] Reading package lists... Done [15:10] home@home:~$ [15:11] its getting new paket-databases [15:11] sheena1: did you see same parts downloaded? [15:11] same parts? [15:11] some [15:11] yeah. i just ran a sudo apt-get update a few minutes ago, though [15:12] when i was reinstalling pcman and everything broke :( [15:12] did you run: sudo apt-get upgrade [15:12] not yet [15:13] i will do that now [15:13] apt-get update only gets the databases up-to-date -- it installs no pakets or updates those [15:13] ok [15:13] its installing now i thnk [15:14] sorry. i have been using ubuntu for a few years now, but there are still things i dont fully understand [15:14] sheena1: you should see the downloading (traffic) and what it does for installing [15:14] yep. i see it [15:14] what should i dowhen its finished? [15:14] log out? reboot? neither? [15:15] sheena1: did it install a new kernel? Only this is normaly the reason for a reboot. [15:15] i am not sure how to tell [15:15] you should try now if the tool in the menu: system configuration --> User+Groups is working [15:16] oh if it did, it will ask me to reboot, right? [15:16] it is now preparing and unpacking [15:16] soon it will be done [15:16] most times yes - but not allways [15:16] i dont see any mention of kernel in the list of stuff it is installing [15:17] sheena1: you should be able to create a new user-account to get a clean user-setting and if this is working, then its possible to fix your primary-account [15:18] it is still unpacking [15:18] must have many things to install.. means i havent done this in a while maybe? oops [15:18] thats what i suspect - and is different what you told [15:19] i see that :( [15:19] i did not mean to lie to you! [15:19] it seems stuck maybe [15:19] oh no, its going now [15:19] i did not say this - computers are always the fault [15:19] heh yes. blame the machine :) [15:19] it never minds if you blame it. i did drop it hard on the floor a couple of days ago also, and ran some hard drive diagnostics, but that should not cause the software to work strangely i think [15:20] sheena1: did you never use synaptic (gui-tool) for updates and paket-installs? [15:20] ok it is done [15:20] i use the software updater gui. it comes up sometimes and i click "install" but im notsure if it is synaptic or not [15:20] thats not [15:20] i have both User Accounts and Users and Groups now [15:21] running? [15:21] i want users and groups? [15:21] in useres and groups, it opens but when i click add, stil nothing happens [15:21] manage groups opens a dialogue, but add and advanced settings do not [15:22] mmh -- maybe wait - maybe you do a logout and login and everything may work. --- [15:22] in user accounts, there is no response and an "unlock" buttont hat does nothing [15:22] ok i will log out [15:23] lol [15:23] "log out command is not set" [15:23] how do i do this in command line? [15:23] in commandline, in terminal enter: logout [15:23] or exit [15:23] that just closes the terminal [15:23] it hink [15:24] To end all user processes and be sent back to the login screen, you can use:kill -9 -1 [15:24] i could do that? [15:24] sheena1: your gui-taskbar-icon for logout is not there? [15:24] it is, but it pops up with the error "log out command is not set" [15:25] i never log out, so maybe this is not a new problem. i dont think i have ever logged out since i installed, i just reboot if i need to. [15:26] testdr: i am not sure what to do next [15:26] i will try the kill -9 command? [15:26] sheena1: in a terminal(xterm) enter to kill running LXDE-session: killall --SIGKILL lxsession [15:26] that gives me a manual type page for killalll [15:27] sheena1: my keyboard - only one "-" [15:27] home@home:~$ killall -SIGKILL lxsession [15:27] lxsession: no process found [15:28] sheena1: you have LUbuntu? Without lxsession to start the Desktop? Or -- how you get it started? [15:28] im sorry i dont know :( [15:28] i have lubuntu, yes [15:28] it usually just works? i turn it on and it works! [15:29] check in terminal if there is lxsession running: ps xa | grep session [15:29] home@home:~$ ps xa | grep session [15:29] 2138 ? Sl 0:00 lightdm --session-child 12 27 [15:29] 2210 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/im-launch /usr/bin/openbox-session [15:29] 2213 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/im-launch /usr/bin/openbox-session [15:29] 2214 ? Ss 0:00 //bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session [15:29] 2269 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session [15:29] 15705 pts/7 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto session [15:30] sheena1: you have no default LUbuntu -- you have mixed with gnome-session [15:30] oh . how did that happen? can i fix it? is that the problem? [15:33] sheena1: i dont know -- if you are right about using LUbuntu-14.04, you can do an: sudo apt-get install lxde-common [15:33] what is the comand to print out what OS i have installed etc? [15:34] uname -a [15:34] and: lsb_release -a [15:34] home@home:~$ lsb_release -a [15:34] No LSB modules are available. [15:34] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [15:34] Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS [15:34] Release: 14.04 [15:34] Codename: trusty [15:35] sheena1: dont paste multiple lines into irc -- use the pastebin and provide the link to the uploaded text (http://paste.ubuntu.com" [15:36] sorry. do you want me to pastebin that output for you? [15:36] no - could read enough [15:36] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.1/release/lubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso this is the file i used to install [15:36] i made a live usb and used that [15:36] so i dont know what happened? [15:36] i did try to make shotwell work and installed some gnome things, maybe that broke something? [15:36] thats ok - but --ahaaa [15:36] i dont want to do a clean install again if i dont have to :( [15:37] that was months ago, the shotwell thing, and it worked ok after that? [15:37] you did install gnome - and pulled in parts of the gnome-desktop for your user-account. [15:37] ok [15:37] is it fixable? [15:37] and will fixing it fix all the stuff that is wrong, or only some? [15:39] your user-account-mixed settings is not easy to fix. -- First there is the gnome-session running instead of lxsession. But i wonder if its the same for the guest-account and if so i dont know what everything else may be installed from gnome and taking over the command [15:40] is a clean install going to fix it? [15:40] i can dot hat if it is the best way [15:42] if your user-data is saved -- mailsettings, etc. then a clean new install would be the best and quickest thing and then you can install your saved user-date back -- but take care about .config in your home-directory, there may be some gnome-settings and this should be first not used. [15:42] can i just rename .config to .config-broken and then do a clean install? [15:43] and for the future - create always a second user-account to do software tests or mixing the desktop-settings. [15:43] thank you. i will try to do that next time. i never know what might break things :( [15:43] no -- if you will rename it - then you first should try to reboot and check if things work better -- you need a real backup if you do a fresh install [15:44] real backup.. even though home directory is separate? [15:45] i will rename it now and reboot, see what happens? [15:45] sheena1: i dont know if you have it really separate. People do a new install and overwrite whole disk and then even a not touched partition is gone. [15:45] i have done installs with home separate befor [15:46] i can show you if i can list my paritions? [15:46] i know i must do it inside the installer carefully so it does nto overwrite /home [15:46] sheena1: you can do a install only to the root-partition and dont touch other partitions - but some people are to quick and press the button to do the full-install [15:47] sheena1: you understand? You have to read carefully and know the datasettings of your harddisk [15:48] yes i understand. i have done this before several times [15:48] ok - then a fresh install is done in less than 1 hour (quick hardware only around 20-30 minutes). [15:49] ok. should i try the rename .config first? [15:49] thats less than the time we used here [15:50] yes - thats quicker - and you know this is put aside with a different name [15:50] ok. i will do that and then reboot and see what happens? [15:50] sudo mv /home/home/.config /home/home/.config-broken ? [15:51] yes [15:51] not mvdir? [15:51] no - its only a rename [15:51] ok [15:54] ok i rebooted [15:54] no panel opened [15:55] i right clicked desktop to open terminal, and ran pidgin, so i cando the same for my panel and check what works? [15:55] users? [15:55] this time lxpanel opened a different panel [15:55] with my colour settings [15:56] software updater opened and wants me to update 'Ubuntu base' [15:56] looks like a kernel update [15:58] testdr: are you here? [16:02] too late [16:03] re [16:03] i missed some msgs [16:04] not much - was afk [16:04] i made a new user through command line but now when i boot up, it does not even ask me which user i want [16:04] did you activate auto-login? [16:04] i dont think so? if i did, it was an accident [16:04] this morning, it would always ask me [16:05] and now it does not [16:05] and you are logged in as this user? New or old one? [16:05] home [16:05] i cannot log in as new one [16:05] i dont know how? [16:05] if it does not ask me when i restart, i dont know how else to do it [16:05] logout through GUI does not work [16:05] sounds like the login-manager is gone [16:06] all gone :( [16:06] then its really the quickest way to do a fresh clean install from your live-usb-version [16:06] throw it out and get a new pc ? [16:06] ok [16:06] i will find my usb stick [16:06] i hope! [16:06] is it bad to make a new one from this broken computer if i cannot find it? [16:07] and there are now some things in .config again. should i rename it again before i install? [16:07] no - only the download has to work - with some kind of browser or wget -- but without an usb-stick? [16:07] i have the iso file already on my laptop [16:07] from before [16:07] and i have many usb [16:07] just not sure i have the boot one i made still [16:07] i might have lost it or overwritten it [16:08] sheena1: then plug in a usable usb and identify its device -- maybe its /dev/sdb and do a dd if=isoimage of=/dev/sdb [16:08] confirm it's /dev/sdb before dd [16:08] sheena1: if you have 2 harddisks it may be /dev/sdc [16:09] i think i fount it [16:09] it has .disk and boot nad casper.. etc [16:09] seems like the right onw [16:09] can i check it before i install from it? [16:09] the dd-command is: --- then its probably your lost live-version [16:10] and kanzure, can i access this from my android phone so i can stay in the room while im doing my reinstall? [16:10] androchat [16:10] sheena1: you check it with reboot and select boot from this usb-drive (maybe you have to press F11 .. F12 or F2 at boot-time) [16:10] ok bye for now! [16:10] or androirc, rather. [16:12] Is it working? [16:13] Kanzure am i in the rigt place? [16:24] My wifi card isnt opening. [16:24] Seriously? [16:46] testdr: i have reinstalled. how can i check that everything is back to nromal? [16:47] check the lookout - working tool - like user-config, openbox-config etc. [16:49] open bo confg opens [16:49] user config works, i made a test account! [16:49] how can i change my system suspend settings? maybe i should get help with that before i break all the things agin! [16:51] first do an update - suspend-settings like suspend-to-ram for an laptop? Thats part of powerconfiguration [16:52] check the tools in config and system-settings are working - there should be the tool for the power-settings [21:43] hi all [21:43] howto change colors of lxterminal ? [21:44] or it is only background & foreground color can be changed ? [21:44] no customized color scheme ? === Guest99309 is now known as RedDeath