[09:35] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:35] <OERIAS> good morning
[09:35] <daftykins> o/
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> morning mammals
[09:36] <OERIAS> any CM users?
[09:36] <OERIAS> morning reptiles
[09:36] <daftykins> cyanogenmod?
[09:36] <OERIAS> morning gastropods
[09:36] <OERIAS> daftykins, yes
[09:36] <daftykins> ah, first time guess. that was lucky
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> the reptile people are here!! ::hits panic button::
[09:36] <OERIAS> cyanogenmod users/
[09:36] <OERIAS> ?
[09:36] <daftykins> i've used devices with it in the past
[09:37] <OERIAS> no likey?
[09:37] <OERIAS> no likey cyanogenmod?
[09:37] <daftykins> ones an old phone that's now an alarm clock and one isn't mine, so sits on a desk gathering dust
[09:37] <daftykins> my daily driver is a Nexus 4, unmodified
[09:42] <OERIAS> The one collecting dust, what phone?
[09:44] <daftykins> an HTC One X+
[09:53] <OERIAS> can I have it??? lol
[09:54]  * brobostigon has been using CM ever since the htc dream.
[09:54] <daftykins> as i say, not mine
[09:58] <OERIAS> brobostigon, really?
[09:58] <brobostigon> yes.
[10:33] <popey> I have CM7 on an HTC Hero (which I never use)
[10:35] <brobostigon> cm7 is based on aosp 2.3 if memory serves, which is ancient now.
[10:38] <daftykins> my device was more limited by hardware design failure than what android version you could get on it
[10:38] <daftykins> a 150MB /data partition? hah!
[10:40] <popey> indeed, it was crap when i bought it, and still is
[10:40] <popey> it put me off android
[10:42] <daftykins> ever read that NY Times article i think it was about how non-functional the first iPhone really was when Apple unveiled it? :D
[10:43] <daftykins> there was a fully action-scripted demo as any other action crashed it apparently
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> the iphone 3g i got needed a factory reset about twice a month as it was so unstable
[11:05] <brobostigon> ouch
[11:06] <brobostigon> VROOOM
[11:07] <zmoylan-pi> but when the 3gs came out the ios from that was a vast improvement, but the memo app kept corrupting on me
[12:12] <SuperEngineer> definite lol coming up here... I have kindly been offered the chance to attend a driver education course in relation to a speeding offence in Wales...
[12:13] <SuperEngineer> ...I would like to kindly offer all Welsh authoritoes a lesson geography [re the "location" of the courses...
[12:15] <SuperEngineer> Basingstoke is NOT in North Wales, Basingstoke is NOT in North Yorkshire, Hampshire is NOT in Northern Ireland, Hampshire is NOT in Northumbria...
[12:15] <SuperEngineer> or Nottinghamshire...
[12:16] <SuperEngineer> ...Shropshire is NOT in Avn & Somerset...
[12:17] <SuperEngineer> Shropshire is NOT in Devon OR Cornwall...
[12:18] <SuperEngineer> ...still - it gave I one big laugh reading their "kind offer"... I chose the course in Gloucester - it IS in Glouscestershire as per their locations letter :D
[12:28] <SuperEngineer> [deliberate mis-spelling]
[12:29] <zmoylan-pi> people have had trouble with mail mergers and form letters since word star :-)
[12:30] <SuperEngineer> :D
[12:32] <SuperEngineer> ...& the ultimate lol... [in caps because that how they put it] " COURT PROCESS WILL BE INVOKED IF YOU DO NOT DECLINE A COURSE" !  perhaps I should decline their kind offer after all ;)
[13:59] <SuperEngineer> Paid for the awareness course... I wonder if I should take a working Linux pooter with me - just to prove their form could be done correctly ;)
[13:59] <SuperEngineer> [speed awareness course]
[14:04] <zmoylan-pi> slap a usb drive or sd card with a live distro on it?
[14:04] <zmoylan-pi> on your non linux computer that is
[14:07] <SuperEngineer> lol
[14:12] <SuperEngineer> ...or take the "old brick" along [Linux as default & WinXP as "history" for regedit reference]
[15:17] <DJones> \o/ New phone day
[15:17] <popey> uhoh
[15:20] <popey> directhex: did your/wifeys Hudl 2 arrive
[15:20] <popey> I am unable to type Hudl without mis-typing it as Hudle first
[15:28] <directhex> popey, missed delivery today, whilst we were out shopping. at tesco.
[15:31] <diddledan> lol
[15:46] <popey> hah
[15:47] <popey> so pegatron make the board in the hudl 2
[15:47] <popey> http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/977285
[15:52] <diddledan> oh, it's an atom!
[15:53] <diddledan> I wonder what the battery life is compared to an arm of similar benchmark scores?
[16:14] <ali1234> what is the point of hudl?
[16:15] <ali1234> i mean for someone who already owns several tablets
[16:31] <directhex> popey, good find
[16:32] <directhex> popey, pegatron as an ODM are lower down the chain than an OEM like archos, so it would be cheaper than going through a middle-man
[17:22] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[17:24] <popey> https://github.com/MichaelJCole/bithammer  interesting
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> they're cheap generic tablets and if you already shop at tesco and have a club card you can get them *very* cheap
[17:28] <bigcalm> popey: very
[17:40] <directhex> zmoylan-pi, we got a case for hour hudl 1, a hudl 2, and a hudl 2 case, for £1.75 and some clubcard points
[17:42] <zmoylan-pi> doesn't get cheaper than that, does it? :-)
[17:43] <zmoylan-pi> but it still wouldn't encourage me to get a club card :-)
[18:29] <l34rn> hi
[18:29] <l34rn> Can i ask question?
[18:29] <l34rn> what affect command aptitude install -f ?
[18:33] <shauno> -f is fix.  if a previous install went wrong half way through, it should try to fix the muddle
[18:34] <directhex> typically -f will try to finish any interrupted package installations, or install new packages if an installed package is missing a dependency (e.g. you manually installed a .deb with "dpkg -i" and it has missing dependencies, aptitutde -f can unravel that & fill in the gaps)
[18:36] <kamkam_> hi
[18:37] <SuperEngineer> directhex: do you know if it would cure a problem with a deb fill that refuses to instaall because of deprecated package?
[18:37] <directhex> SuperEngineer, only if the deprecated packages it expects are available in a configured repository
[18:38] <SuperEngineer> thanks, directhex - unfortunately that is the case.... ho hum
[18:39] <SuperEngineer> [i.e. not available]