lordievader | Good morning. | 06:43 |
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Sick_Rimmit | Good morning lovely people in Kubuntu-Devel | 08:16 |
Sick_Rimmit | I'm back after a crazy summer, and having started a new job... | 08:17 |
soee | hiho Sick_Rimmit, started crazy job ? :) | 08:18 |
Sick_Rimmit | Ah no the summer was Crazy, the Job is really fun, and interesting | 08:18 |
Sick_Rimmit | I am hoping to align some of the work I am doing in my new role, with the changes that Harald has been proposing | 08:19 |
Sick_Rimmit | In particular with regard to the Continous Integration arrangements.. | 08:19 |
valorie | what is your new job? | 08:20 |
Sick_Rimmit | Anyway, just saying hi, and letting folks know I am kicking arounfd | 08:20 |
valorie | hi, nice to see you back | 08:20 |
Sick_Rimmit | Hi valorie I am Product Manager for WiFiSPARK Ltd. WiFi Network provision and management | 08:20 |
valorie | interesting | 08:20 |
valorie | what do you do with CI? | 08:21 |
Sick_Rimmit | Well I don't at this moment, but..../ | 08:21 |
valorie | got it | 08:21 |
Sick_Rimmit | We're expanding rapidly, and we need CI, and Automated Testing. | 08:21 |
valorie | the future is still in front of us, but it's fun to see us moving towards it | 08:21 |
Sick_Rimmit | I understand Kubuntu has been looking at this along with build and test automation using Jenkins | 08:21 |
Sick_Rimmit | Git... etc... | 08:22 |
Sick_Rimmit | I keep jumping in here at kubuntu and trying to get into helping with packaging, and all the work that this community is doing | 08:22 |
valorie | yes, for sure | 08:22 |
Sick_Rimmit | but I keep getting lost in the all docs and stuff. | 08:22 |
Sick_Rimmit | Anyway, the key to the problem is being able to apply the required amount of time to get form problem to the solution. | 08:23 |
valorie | yup | 08:23 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: welcome home :) | 08:24 |
Sick_Rimmit | But what I am hoping to do is to align our work requirements for CI, by helping Kubuntu | 08:24 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: kubuntu ci announcements happen in #kubuntu-ci | 08:24 |
Sick_Rimmit | Hi Riddell | 08:24 |
Riddell | there a bot says what's broken and what works | 08:24 |
Sick_Rimmit | Ah ha will subscribe to that channel | 08:24 |
Sick_Rimmit | Glad to be back, and going to be going through all my notes on packaging that we worked on together, and try to get the knowledge fixed in my head | 08:25 |
Sick_Rimmit | Anyway, glad to be back.. | 08:26 |
* Sick_Rimmit grins and waves politely | 08:27 | |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: let me know if you need a tutorial or guidance | 08:28 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Ok, thanks will do. I am planning to review my notes this week, check back with the documentation, and then have a go at rebuilding digiKam on Sunday night, but will look to you with any questions thanks again Riddell | 08:30 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: I think allee is looking at the new version of digikam | 08:48 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: there's bits in the needs-packaging queue if you want more than needs packaging | 08:48 |
Riddell | s/than/that/ | 08:48 |
kubotu | Riddell meant: "Sick_Rimmit: there's bits in the needs-packaging queue if you want more that needs packaging" | 08:48 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Oh that's OK, I will build it all locally, just to see how it goes | 08:48 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: I just need to do a little bit more, building on my local machine to build my confidence a little more, and experience some of the issues, and complexities | 08:49 |
Sick_Rimmit | Then I reall hope I will be ready to have some of my packages sponsored and pushed up live... | 08:50 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Truly, whilst I have done it I still feel like I have no clue what I am doing, and how it all fits together. But I will never give up | 08:50 |
Sick_Rimmit | No retreat not surrender. | 08:51 |
Sick_Rimmit | me smiles | 08:51 |
Riddell | oh gosh you sound like iain paisley | 08:51 |
* Sick_Rimmit grin | 08:51 | |
Sick_Rimmit | Was he a Kubuntu packaging Ninja ? | 08:51 |
Sick_Rimmit | lol | 08:51 |
valorie | Riddell: Paisley ended up useful | 08:51 |
valorie | imo | 08:52 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: goodness no, a most unpleasant northern ireland politician | 08:57 |
soee | valorie: are you using Plasma5 ? | 08:57 |
Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Yes, I was being comical.. I can't imagine Iain Paisely working out well at all in any Free / Open community.. | 08:58 |
Sick_Rimmit | Even less so now of course... | 08:59 |
valorie | soee: I'll be back on plasma 5 if I can just get 3 more screws out of my test laptop | 09:00 |
valorie | even if I can't, I guess I will duct tape it open and hope for the best (breaking/broken hinge) | 09:01 |
valorie | I really loved it | 09:02 |
soee | valorie: 3 more screws ? | 09:02 |
valorie | 3 screws I swear they put there so they *couldn't* be removed | 09:03 |
valorie | really wide heads and tiny little x in the middle | 09:03 |
valorie | soooo tight | 09:03 |
Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: remember it's RC week this week and final release next week so lots of announcements and testing to be done should you be looking for bits | 09:05 |
Riddell | d_ed: you say kde-style-oxygen needs to be installed to keep kde4 themes in sync in plasma 5? | 09:05 |
Sick_Rimmit | Absolutely, will get involved in that.. | 09:05 |
valorie | I'll test the RC this week at least, and also our KDE meetup thursday will experiment as well | 09:06 |
soee | i need one more confirmation that this happens only to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2DIHGhJIeg&feature=youtu.be | 09:07 |
Riddell | q | 09:17 |
Riddell | fixing milou package to allow full-upgrade from a plasma4 install to install plasma-desktop and not get held back | 09:56 |
soee | Riddell: upgrade from plasam4 to plsam5 will be supported/available for any user ? | 09:58 |
Riddell | soee: it'll be available, it'll be tech preview so no paticular guarantee of stability but if it causes obvious problems that'll be a fail | 09:58 |
Riddell | no GUI for it | 09:59 |
soee | ok | 09:59 |
BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:17 |
soee | hi BluesKaj | 11:17 |
BluesKaj | hey soee | 11:18 |
BluesKaj | soee, do you have cups printing enabled and working , it's installed , but won't launch here | 11:34 |
soee | nope, someone asked abput configuration module yesterday | 11:34 |
BluesKaj | on plasma 4 | 11:34 |
BluesKaj | err 5 | 11:34 |
soee | kcmshell4 kcm_printer_manager | 11:35 |
soee | but im not sure if it is what you want, i have no printer :) | 11:36 |
BluesKaj | soee, , that's it thanks | 11:43 |
BluesKaj | it's on wife's pc , just needs to be setup | 11:43 |
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soee | Riddell: you did chnages in milou package right? the kubuntu-plasma5-desktop is marked to be removed now - is this safe ? | 11:45 |
Riddell | um, wibble? | 11:46 |
Riddell | not if you want to use kubuntu-plasma5-desktop | 11:46 |
Riddell | I just make milou not break and provide milou-kf5 (or whatever the old name was) | 11:46 |
Riddell | and I made kubuntu-plasma5-desktop not depend on milou (although plasma-workspace still does) | 11:47 |
Riddell | soee: anyway pastebin what you have, I'm not sure I understand | 11:47 |
soee | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8551946/ | 11:48 |
Riddell | umm | 11:48 |
Riddell | soee: what happens if you sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop ? | 11:49 |
soee | Riddell: it just says it is in newest version already | 11:50 |
Riddell | umm | 11:50 |
Riddell | let me try a full-upgrade | 11:51 |
Riddell | all good here | 11:52 |
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Riddell | soee: what happens if you apt install milou? | 11:52 |
soee | Riddell: id id update again and now http://paste.ubuntu.com/8551995/ | 11:55 |
soee | seems ok ? | 11:55 |
Riddell | soee: yep | 11:59 |
sgclark | morning | 12:03 |
shadeslayer | morning sgclark | 12:05 |
Riddell | hola sgclark | 12:16 |
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sgclark | Riddell: a bunch of these desktop-mime-but-no-exec-code. Do I care? if so how do I handle it? | 12:49 |
Riddell | sounds like lintian being silly | 12:51 |
Riddell | sgclark: what files is it pointing to? | 12:51 |
sgclark | desktop files. I compared one to one without error and the exec lines are indeed diffrent. sec let me paste | 12:51 |
sgclark | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8552330/ | 12:53 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Have got latest plasma5.1 build from yesterday, how do you have your desktop configured ? | 12:57 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I have so far not been able to replicate the bug you posted earlier | 12:57 |
Riddell | sgclark: I don't know what you're compiling, point me to the source with the error | 12:57 |
sgclark | Riddell: 4.14.2 link is in status.. | 12:58 |
soee | Sick_Rimmit_Test: define "how do you have your desktop configured" | 12:58 |
sgclark | or topic rather | 12:59 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: The Kicker menu. | 12:59 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: You have it so it automatically drills into each menu, mine does not do that by default, I wondered how to set that up | 13:00 |
soee | Sick_Rimmit_Test: thers a setting to flat or not levels | 13:00 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | Ah OK, let me look for that.. see if I can replicatee | 13:01 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | Thanks | 13:01 |
Riddell | sgclark: reading the description is seems like a reasonable thing to complain about, the .desktop file should have a %f or %u to open the mimetype with in the exec line | 13:14 |
Riddell | sgclark: but it's not a new problem | 13:14 |
Riddell | sgclark: report a bug upstream would be the thing to do | 13:15 |
Riddell | and if you're feeling keen submit a patch with it | 13:15 |
sgclark | ok | 13:15 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I'm sorry to bother you, but where abouts is the setting for Kicker for Menu levels, I can't seem to find it ? | 13:18 |
sgclark | Riddell: several releases later artikulate is still broken due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-gstreamer/+bug/1336256 anyone you can poke? | 13:20 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1336256 in qt-gstreamer (Ubuntu) "Please update qt-gstreamer to 1.1.90" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:20 |
Riddell | sgclark: not really, d_ed has said he will release now ktp and there's some debian people doing new kamoso but still all in progress | 13:23 |
soee | Sick_Rimmit_Test: right click on the icon and go App menu settings | 13:24 |
sgclark | okies | 13:26 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Ah I think I found it, is it the Switch Tabs in Hover check box ? | 13:28 |
soee | Sick_Rimmit_Test: are you using the default Kicker or the homerun ? | 13:30 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I see the problem | 13:30 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I was using the Application Launcher (default) | 13:31 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I switched to Application Menu and now I have found the settings you are referring to | 13:31 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Thanks I will test your use can now | 13:31 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I got a repeat of your problem | 13:37 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Executable: plasmashell PID: 2031 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 13/10/2014 14:36:54 | 13:37 |
soee | oh so it happens with deeper levels of menu ni think | 13:38 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Well I have 3 levels, but I think that the issue may be related to how many entries get displayed before you choose something | 13:38 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: To replicate I had to go up and down, and in and out of a few menu's without selection. Then suddenly I get a segfault | 13:39 |
soee | if the menu is flated to 2 levels | 13:40 |
soee | thers no such problem | 13:41 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: testing | 13:43 |
Riddell | hi manchicken, are you maintaining qapt? | 13:45 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I am not getting the fault, when Menu Flattened. However, I can't get a definitive crach when using multi-levels.. it just does it occassionally | 13:48 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: I will keep working on this test machine, with the multi-level setup and see if I can capture some crash data. | 13:48 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: If you have create a bug report, and let me have the number I can add my input to that too | 13:49 |
soee | Sick_Rimmit_Test: im just trying to add one through automatic eport i just filled all info and cant send it | 13:52 |
soee | it says i have to boe logged in but i did login | 13:52 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Ah, well I can try, once I get a repeat of the issue | 13:54 |
soee | Sick_Rimmit_Test: do you know against which element it shoudl be reported: https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=plasmashell ? | 13:54 |
soee | Kicker or Kickoff ? | 13:55 |
soee | i think it woul;d be kicker | 13:55 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Its Kickoff I believe | 13:57 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma_application_launchers | 13:58 |
soee | hmm im a bit confused what is what :) | 14:00 |
soee | anyway Sick_Rimmit_Test feel free to update https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339932 | 14:00 |
ubottu | KDE bug 339932 in Application Menu (Kicker) "Plasmashell crashes when navigating through deeper menu levels" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 14:00 |
Sick_Rimmit_Test | soee: Nice work, OK will post my updates later. thanks | 14:01 |
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soee | Riddell: how can i install debug symbols for /usr/bin/plasmashell and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Quick.so.5 | 14:12 |
Riddell | soee: plasma-workspace-dbg qtdeclarative5-dbg | 14:13 |
soee | Riddell: thank you | 14:26 |
kubotu | feed branches had 9 updates, showing the latest 6 | 15:47 |
Riddell | sgclark: on a roll? | 15:51 |
sgclark | hehe | 15:57 |
kubotu | feed branches had 7 updates, showing the latest 6 | 16:47 |
soee | how can i start plasmashell with some settings like mentioned here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339932 ? | 16:57 |
ubottu | KDE bug 339932 in Application Menu (Kicker) "Plasmashell crashes when navigating through deeper menu levels" [Crash,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] | 16:57 |
shadeslayer | soee: QSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic plasmashell ? | 17:01 |
soee | shadeslayer: but do i have to kill plasmashell before ? | 17:03 |
shadeslayer | soee: yes | 17:03 |
soee | ha i will use this magins spell: ALT + CTRL + ESC | 17:04 |
soee | should this work to kill plasmashell ? | 17:04 |
soee | it works ;) thanks | 17:06 |
shadeslayer | yes | 17:07 |
shadeslayer | or kquitapp5 plasmashell | 17:07 |
* Riddell wanders out for the evening | 17:08 | |
soee | shadeslayer: worked and teh solution mentioned in comment also fixes teh problem :) | 17:09 |
soee | so i hope thei fix it in 5.1.1 | 17:10 |
sgclark | 4.14.2 is ready for testing. It is a holiday here so I am going to enjoy a bit of it. | 17:10 |
Riddell | awooga, thanks a lot sgclark | 17:10 |
sgclark | Riddell: ^ | 17:10 |
* soee cat test :) | 17:10 | |
Riddell | !testers | 4.14.2 in kubuntu-ninjas | 17:10 |
ubottu | 4.14.2 in kubuntu-ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlue for information | 17:10 |
soee | *can | 17:10 |
sgclark | np. I will backport to trusty tomorrow | 17:10 |
soee | ok i will test now | 17:10 |
soee | or in 15 min | 17:11 |
Riddell | soee: you have the secret details? | 17:11 |
soee | Riddell: i think yes, the one you gave me some time ago, atm. disabled in source list | 17:11 |
Riddell | yep | 17:11 |
Riddell | on utopic | 17:11 |
soee | hm | 17:11 |
soee | one moment | 17:11 |
soee | downloading, unpacking, configuring without errors | 17:24 |
MichaelP | 14.10 with my usb harddrive pluged-in desktop freezes mouse moves.. but kmenu wont doing.. no right on desktop.. anything that is open will not close or minamize | 17:29 |
soee | rebooting, brb | 17:29 |
MichaelP | no reboots allowed | 17:30 |
shadeslayer | !find /etc/mkinitcpio.conf utopic | 17:30 |
ubottu | Package/file /etc/mkinitcpio.conf does not exist in utopic | 17:30 |
soee | Riddell: super smooth upgrade | 17:34 |
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