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lordievaderGood morning.06:43
Sick_RimmitGood morning lovely people in Kubuntu-Devel08:16
Sick_RimmitI'm back after a crazy summer, and having started a new job...08:17
soeehiho Sick_Rimmit, started crazy job ? :)08:18
Sick_RimmitAh no the summer was Crazy, the Job is really fun, and interesting08:18
Sick_RimmitI am hoping to align some of the work I am doing in my new role, with the changes that Harald has been proposing08:19
Sick_RimmitIn particular with regard to the Continous Integration arrangements..08:19
valoriewhat is your new job?08:20
Sick_RimmitAnyway, just saying hi, and letting folks know I am kicking arounfd08:20
valoriehi, nice to see you back08:20
Sick_RimmitHi valorie I am Product Manager for WiFiSPARK Ltd. WiFi Network provision and management08:20
valorieinteresting08:20
valoriewhat do you do with CI?08:21
Sick_RimmitWell I don't at this moment, but..../08:21
valoriegot it08:21
Sick_RimmitWe're expanding rapidly, and we need CI, and Automated Testing.08:21
valoriethe future is still in front of us, but it's fun to see us moving towards it08:21
Sick_RimmitI understand Kubuntu has been looking at this along with build and test automation using Jenkins08:21
Sick_RimmitGit... etc...08:22
Sick_RimmitI keep jumping in here at kubuntu and trying to get into helping with packaging, and all the work that this community is doing08:22
valorieyes, for sure08:22
Sick_Rimmitbut I keep getting lost in the all docs and stuff.08:22
Sick_RimmitAnyway, the key to the problem is being able to apply the required amount of time to get form problem to the solution.08:23
valorieyup08:23
RiddellSick_Rimmit: welcome home :)08:24
Sick_RimmitBut what I am hoping to do is to align our work requirements for CI, by helping Kubuntu 08:24
RiddellSick_Rimmit: kubuntu ci announcements happen in #kubuntu-ci08:24
Sick_RimmitHi Riddell08:24
Riddellthere a bot says what's broken and what works08:24
Sick_RimmitAh ha will subscribe to that channel08:24
Sick_RimmitGlad to be back, and going to be going through all my notes on packaging that we worked on together, and try to get the knowledge fixed in my head08:25
Sick_RimmitAnyway, glad to be back..08:26
* Sick_Rimmit grins and waves politely08:27
RiddellSick_Rimmit: let me know if you need a tutorial or guidance08:28
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Ok, thanks will do. I am planning to review my notes this week, check back with the documentation, and then have a go at rebuilding digiKam on Sunday night, but will look to you with any questions thanks again Riddell08:30
RiddellSick_Rimmit: I think allee is looking at the new version of digikam08:48
RiddellSick_Rimmit: there's bits in the needs-packaging queue if you want more than needs packaging08:48
Riddells/than/that/08:48
kubotuRiddell meant: "Sick_Rimmit: there's bits in the needs-packaging queue if you want more that needs packaging"08:48
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Oh that's OK, I will build it all locally, just to see how it goes08:48
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I just need to do a little bit more, building on my local machine to build my confidence a little more, and experience some of the issues, and complexities08:49
Sick_RimmitThen I reall hope I will be ready to have some of my packages sponsored and pushed up live...08:50
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Truly, whilst I have done it I still feel like I have no clue what I am doing, and how it all fits together. But I will never give up08:50
Sick_RimmitNo retreat not surrender.08:51
Sick_Rimmitme smiles08:51
Riddelloh gosh you sound like iain paisley08:51
* Sick_Rimmit grin08:51
Sick_RimmitWas he a Kubuntu packaging Ninja ?08:51
Sick_Rimmitlol08:51
valorieRiddell: Paisley ended up useful08:51
valorieimo08:52
RiddellSick_Rimmit: goodness no, a most unpleasant northern ireland politician08:57
soeevalorie: are you using Plasma5 ?08:57
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Yes, I was being comical.. I can't imagine Iain Paisely working out well at all in any Free / Open community..08:58
Sick_RimmitEven less so now of course...08:59
valoriesoee: I'll be back on plasma 5 if I can just get 3 more screws out of my test laptop09:00
valorieeven if I can't, I guess I will duct tape it open and hope for the best (breaking/broken hinge)09:01
valorieI really loved it09:02
soeevalorie: 3 more screws ?09:02
valorie3 screws I swear they put there so they *couldn't* be removed09:03
valoriereally wide heads and tiny little x in the middle09:03
valoriesoooo tight09:03
RiddellSick_Rimmit: remember it's RC week this week and final release next week so lots of announcements and testing to be done should you be looking for bits09:05
Riddelld_ed: you say kde-style-oxygen needs to be installed to keep kde4 themes in sync in plasma 5?09:05
Sick_RimmitAbsolutely, will get involved in that..09:05
valorieI'll test the RC this week at least, and also our KDE meetup thursday will experiment as well09:06
soeei need one more confirmation that this happens only to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2DIHGhJIeg&feature=youtu.be09:07
Riddellq09:17
Riddellfixing milou package to allow full-upgrade from a plasma4 install to install plasma-desktop and not get held back09:56
soeeRiddell: upgrade from plasam4 to plsam5 will be supported/available for any user ?09:58
Riddellsoee: it'll be available, it'll be tech preview so no paticular guarantee of stability but if it causes obvious problems that'll be a fail09:58
Riddellno GUI for it09:59
soeeok09:59
BluesKajHi folks11:17
soeehi BluesKaj11:17
BluesKajhey soee11:18
BluesKajsoee, do you have cups printing  enabled and working , it's installed , but won't launch here11:34
soeenope, someone asked abput configuration module yesterday11:34
BluesKajon plasma 4 11:34
BluesKajerr 511:34
soeekcmshell4 kcm_printer_manager11:35
soeebut im not sure if it is what you want, i have no printer :)11:36
BluesKajsoee, , that's it thanks11:43
BluesKajit's on wife's pc , just needs to be setup11:43
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soeeRiddell: you did chnages in milou package right? the kubuntu-plasma5-desktop is marked to be removed now - is this safe ?11:45
Riddellum, wibble?11:46
Riddellnot if you want to use kubuntu-plasma5-desktop11:46
RiddellI just make milou not break and provide milou-kf5 (or whatever the old name was)11:46
Riddelland I made kubuntu-plasma5-desktop not depend on milou (although plasma-workspace still does)11:47
Riddellsoee: anyway pastebin what you have, I'm not sure I understand11:47
soeeRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8551946/11:48
Riddellumm11:48
Riddellsoee: what happens if you  sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop  ?11:49
soeeRiddell: it just says it is in newest version already11:50
Riddellumm11:50
Riddelllet me try a full-upgrade11:51
Riddellall good here11:52
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Riddellsoee: what happens if you apt install milou?11:52
soeeRiddell: id id update again and now http://paste.ubuntu.com/8551995/11:55
soeeseems ok ?11:55
Riddellsoee: yep11:59
sgclarkmorning12:03
shadeslayermorning sgclark12:05
Riddellhola sgclark 12:16
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sgclarkRiddell: a bunch of these desktop-mime-but-no-exec-code. Do I care? if so how do I handle it? 12:49
Riddellsounds like lintian being silly12:51
Riddellsgclark: what files is it pointing to?12:51
sgclarkdesktop files. I compared one to one without error and the exec lines are indeed diffrent. sec let me paste12:51
sgclarkRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8552330/12:53
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Have got latest plasma5.1 build from yesterday, how do you have your desktop configured ?12:57
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I have so far not been able to replicate the bug you posted earlier12:57
Riddellsgclark: I don't know what you're compiling, point me to the source with the error12:57
sgclarkRiddell: 4.14.2 link is in status..12:58
soeeSick_Rimmit_Test: define "how do you have your desktop configured"12:58
sgclarkor topic rather12:59
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: The Kicker menu. 12:59
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: You have it so it automatically drills into each menu, mine does not do that by default, I wondered how to set that up13:00
soeeSick_Rimmit_Test: thers a setting to flat or not levels13:00
Sick_Rimmit_TestAh OK, let me look for that.. see if I can replicatee13:01
Sick_Rimmit_TestThanks13:01
Riddellsgclark: reading the description is seems like a reasonable thing to complain about, the .desktop file should have a %f or %u to open the mimetype with in the exec line13:14
Riddellsgclark: but it's not a new problem13:14
Riddellsgclark: report a bug upstream would be the thing to do13:15
Riddelland if you're feeling keen submit a patch with it13:15
sgclarkok13:15
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I'm sorry to bother you, but where abouts is the setting for Kicker for Menu levels, I can't seem to find it ?13:18
sgclarkRiddell: several releases later artikulate is still broken due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-gstreamer/+bug/1336256 anyone you can poke?13:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 1336256 in qt-gstreamer (Ubuntu) "Please update qt-gstreamer to 1.1.90" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:20
Riddellsgclark: not really, d_ed has said he will release now ktp and there's some debian people doing new kamoso but still all in progress13:23
soeeSick_Rimmit_Test: right click on the icon and go App menu settings13:24
sgclarkokies13:26
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Ah I think I found it, is it the Switch Tabs in Hover check box ?13:28
soeeSick_Rimmit_Test: are you using the default Kicker or the homerun ?13:30
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I see the problem13:30
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I was using the Application Launcher (default)13:31
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I switched to Application Menu and now I have found the settings you are referring to13:31
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Thanks I will test your use can now13:31
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I got a repeat of your problem13:37
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Executable: plasmashell PID: 2031 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 13/10/2014 14:36:5413:37
soeeoh so it happens with deeper levels of menu ni think13:38
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Well I have 3 levels, but I think that the issue may be related to how many entries get displayed before you choose something13:38
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: To replicate I had to go up and down, and in and out of a few menu's without selection. Then suddenly I get a segfault13:39
soeeif the menu is flated to 2 levels13:40
soeethers no such problem13:41
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: testing13:43
Riddellhi manchicken, are you maintaining qapt?13:45
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I am not getting the fault, when Menu Flattened. However, I can't get a definitive crach when using multi-levels.. it just does it occassionally13:48
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: I will keep working on this test machine, with the multi-level setup and see if I can capture some crash data.13:48
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: If you have create a bug report, and let me have the number I can add my input to that too13:49
soeeSick_Rimmit_Test: im just trying to add one through automatic eport i just filled all info and cant send it 13:52
soeeit says i have to boe logged in but i did login 13:52
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Ah, well I can try, once I get a repeat of the issue13:54
soeeSick_Rimmit_Test: do you know against which element it shoudl be reported: https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=plasmashell ?13:54
soeeKicker or Kickoff ?13:55
soeei think it woul;d be kicker13:55
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Its Kickoff I believe13:57
Sick_Rimmit_Testhttps://userbase.kde.org/Plasma_application_launchers13:58
soeehmm im a bit confused what is what :)14:00
soeeanyway Sick_Rimmit_Test feel free to update https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33993214:00
ubottuKDE bug 339932 in Application Menu (Kicker) "Plasmashell crashes when navigating through deeper menu levels" [Crash,Unconfirmed]14:00
Sick_Rimmit_Testsoee: Nice work, OK will post my updates later. thanks14:01
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soeeRiddell: how can i install debug symbols for /usr/bin/plasmashell and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Quick.so.514:12
Riddellsoee: plasma-workspace-dbg qtdeclarative5-dbg14:13
soeeRiddell: thank you14:26
kubotufeed branches had 9 updates, showing the latest 615:47
Riddellsgclark: on a roll?15:51
sgclarkhehe15:57
kubotufeed branches had 7 updates, showing the latest 616:47
soeehow can i start plasmashell with some settings like mentioned here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339932 ?16:57
ubottuKDE bug 339932 in Application Menu (Kicker) "Plasmashell crashes when navigating through deeper menu levels" [Crash,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]16:57
shadeslayersoee: QSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic plasmashell ?17:01
soeeshadeslayer: but do i have to kill plasmashell before ?17:03
shadeslayersoee: yes17:03
soeeha i will use this magins spell: ALT + CTRL + ESC17:04
soeeshould this work to kill plasmashell ?17:04
soeeit works ;) thanks17:06
shadeslayeryes17:07
shadeslayeror kquitapp5 plasmashell17:07
* Riddell wanders out for the evening17:08
soeeshadeslayer: worked and teh solution mentioned in comment also fixes teh problem :)17:09
soeeso i hope thei fix it in 5.1.117:10
sgclark4.14.2 is ready for testing. It is a holiday here so I am going to enjoy a bit of it.17:10
Riddellawooga, thanks a lot sgclark 17:10
sgclarkRiddell: ^17:10
* soee cat test :)17:10
Riddell!testers | 4.14.2 in kubuntu-ninjas17:10
ubottu4.14.2 in kubuntu-ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlue  for information17:10
soee*can17:10
sgclarknp. I will backport to trusty tomorrow17:10
soeeok i will test now17:10
soeeor in 15 min17:11
Riddellsoee: you have the secret details?17:11
soeeRiddell: i think yes, the one you gave me some time ago, atm. disabled in source list17:11
Riddellyep17:11
Riddellon utopic17:11
soeehm17:11
soeeone moment17:11
soeedownloading, unpacking, configuring without errors17:24
MichaelP14.10 with my usb harddrive pluged-in desktop freezes mouse moves.. but kmenu wont doing.. no right on desktop.. anything that is open will not close or minamize17:29
soeerebooting, brb17:29
MichaelPno reboots allowed17:30
shadeslayer!find /etc/mkinitcpio.conf utopic17:30
ubottuPackage/file /etc/mkinitcpio.conf does not exist in utopic17:30
soeeRiddell: super smooth upgrade17:34
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