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Mirvmorning03:43
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Mirvit's actually a good thing there's a limit to IRC line lengths... otherwise that ^ would have filled half of the screen06:42
Saviqmorning all07:18
Saviqogra_, we're looking at a potential delta image corruption of some sort - bug #138013307:18
ubot5bug 1380133 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[regression] horizontal-list not displaying properly in scopes" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138013307:18
Saviqas per Victor's comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1380133/comments/407:18
Saviqif he flashes a full image, all is fine, but if he OTAs from 96 things get wonky in a few places07:19
Saviqanother victim: bug #138012007:19
ubot5bug 1380120 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Manage Scopes -> All Is Unusable" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138012007:19
ogra_Saviq, with all the iage probs we had since friday that could well be07:22
ogra_*image07:22
ogra_Saviq, but that should be gone after OTA, no matter what07:22
ogra_99 and upwards should be fine again07:23
Saviqogra_, well, that's the thing, if you upgrade via deltas from 96 to 10007:23
Saviqogra_, broken07:23
Saviqogra_, if you flash full 100, it's fine07:23
ogra_weird, how could that be07:24
Saviqcorrupted delta or corrupted delta application07:24
Saviqor another thing I was thinking deltas affect QML precomp somehow that full image doesn't, but that's a stretch07:25
ogra_well, that would be custom tarball application07:25
Saviqin any case, this is reproducible 100%, so we really need to get to the bottom of it07:25
ogra_well, ricmm wanted to add something that wiped the cache on upgrades07:25
ogra_*wipes07:25
ogra_Saviq, riht, best to talk to stgraber07:26
ogra_*right even07:26
Saviqyeah, but the weirdest thing is that the area that gets broken isn't touched between 96 and 100...07:26
Saviqso yeah... *weird*07:26
ogra_Saviq, we had a completeƶy broken image build system for thu and fri07:26
ogra_i spent most of my weekend to fix a Mir dependency breakage after the image builder was not running out of space anymore07:27
ogra_i would think the thu/fri thing caused breakage07:27
ogra_but stephane fixed it ... perhaps he needs to re-generate some older deltas07:28
ogra_in any case it should be gone latest with the next custom tarball07:28
MirvI wonder if automatic "compare delta patched images to full images" could be implemented and added as a gatekeeper to making images available?07:33
Mirvis it stgraber that should be pinged on adding such a to-do item?07:35
ogra_yes07:36
Mirvok, pinging07:36
ogra_real life ping ? :)07:37
ogra_(are you at linuxcon ?)07:37
Mirvthe old-fashioned email ping :)07:38
ogra_ah07:38
MirvI wonder how feasible would be another gatekeeper job that would boot up the device, unlock screen, take screenshot and validate the screenshot, before making an image downloadable07:38
Mirvthat would have prevented the mir thing from getting published for users07:39
ogra_proper failing when the wrong alternative is in place would have too :)07:39
ogra_(and that would have sent mail to the whole cdimage team)07:40
Mirvyeah, but that kind of automation would prevent a range of fails to boot issues, so it'd be nice to have in a lab or such07:40
ogra_sure ... just that you will need more devices for this07:41
Mirvand failing devices would prevent image from publishing07:42
* ogra_ thinks we need at least 50 devices per arch in the future ... 07:42
Saviqogra_, right, confirmed, removing the cached files fixes the issue07:43
ogra_Saviq, phew, so it isnt an image thing ... good07:43
Saviqphew indeed07:43
ogra_Saviq, i thinnk ricmm has something ready (or will have it ready today), that should only be 1-3 lines in the upgrader07:44
ogra_hmm07:44
ogra_even though07:44
ogra_that should probably not actually live in the upgrader ... we shouldnt touch user dirs from that07:44
ogra_(but instead use a upgrader boot hook )07:45
ogra_which actually makes landing a fix way easier07:45
sil2100How?07:49
sil2100Hi!07:49
sil2100o/07:49
ogra_sil2100, by not having to push it through the android package07:53
Mirvhi sil2100 o/07:54
ogra_Saviq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8550912/07:58
Saviqogra_, mhm07:58
ogra_somethin like that ... we sadly dont have such a mechanism for the session07:59
Saviqsil2100, hey, any idea why the log entries started coming in some wrong order https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-013-1-build/44/console08:02
Saviqit's difficult to grok which MP conflicted :/08:02
sil2100Saviq: hmmm, it might be related to the refactoring Robert made some time ago, as he was changing our scripts to python modules - not sure what from that could cause this but we indeed noticed that this started happening recently08:03
sil2100I'll look into it08:03
Saviqthanks08:04
ogra_hmm, reminders kills the image tests since image 9608:06
sil2100ogra_: kills?08:08
ogra_it seems to die on trying to set up the account08:08
ogra_and then the device it runs on seems to hang08:08
dbarthhi good morning08:09
dbarthtrainguards: silo rtm-002 can be published now; all branches approved08:09
dbarthMirv: hi; are you one of those who can ack the packaging changes for silo 2? ^^08:22
Mirvdbarth: yep08:24
popeysil2100: I'm afk for an hour, need to take wife to doctors, ping me if you need anything core apps related as a result of the landing call..08:25
* Mirv needs to skip the meeting :(08:26
alan_gcihelp - since end last week we've been seeing a lot "virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory" failures on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-utopic-amd64-ci/ - AFAICS this isn't due code changes, has something changed in the server setup?08:40
bzoltanbrendand:  hello, how is the UITK QA process going?08:49
brendandbzoltan, your silo is quite far back in the queue (we had 7 new silos come in at the weekend)08:50
brendandbzoltan, also there are new rules about landings - they can only fix rtm critical bugs now08:51
brendandbzoltan, silo 13 doesn't conform to that criteria right now08:51
bzoltanbrendand: how do you estimate, when the UITK silo will be on your desk?08:52
brendandbzoltan, right now i'm really not sure because we have to triage each silo first08:53
bzoltanbrendand: This silo has two Critical-RTM bug fixes08:55
brendandbzoltan, that's not the point - the rule now is it must contain *only* those fixes08:56
bzoltanbrendand: when this new rule came in effect?08:57
brendandbzoltan, retroactively from friday08:57
bzoltanbrendand:  does not sound fair with my case08:57
seb128sil2100, hey, can you get content-hub from utopic to rtm?08:59
bzoltanbrendand:  where was this rule announced?08:59
brendandbzoltan, i was told by email09:04
bzoltanbrendand:  Was it announced on any mailing lists? Who the mail came from?09:08
brendandbzoltan, i think it was olli or asac09:09
bzoltanbrendand:  was it announced to the landers? I mean did I miss a mail?09:11
brendandbzoltan, that's what i was told09:11
bzoltanbrendand:  but was I told that?09:11
brendandbzoltan, i was told that you were told (and all landers)09:12
bzoltanbrendand: I do not find the mail about it. Could you help me? What was the subject, when it went  out to what ML?09:13
Saviqogra_, the fix for qtmir packaging fiasco last week, that never got to qtmir trunk did it?09:13
brendandbzoltan, unfortunately i didn't receive the same mail but was told by another one09:14
bzoltanbrendand:  I just wish to understand what the rules are09:14
davmor2Morning all09:15
brendandbzoltan, you definitely didn't get a mail from asac?09:15
brendandsil2100, did asac give you some exact rules about landings?09:15
sil2100seb128: sure!09:22
ogra_Saviq, there was only a seed change and two changes in the build system09:22
sil2100seb128: does it fix any rtm14 critical bugs?09:22
Saviqogra_, ah ok so the version in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/qtmir09:23
bzoltanbrendand:  I do not find it09:23
sil2100brendand: I got orders from him to gate only landings that target critical and rtm14 bugs09:23
Saviqogra_, is the "unfortunate" landing of qtmir and things will get rectified by the next landing?09:23
* Mirv back09:23
seb128sil2100, sort of I guess09:23
MirvSaviq: the whole Mir 0.8.0 landing was "canceled" from CI Train point of view09:24
seb128sil2100, it makes content-hub translations be used, which I'm sure we want09:24
seb128sil2100, there isn't a bug open/tagged about the issue though, I just hit it and fixed it09:24
SaviqMirv, yeah, but the qtmir rtm package seems to come from there, no?09:24
MirvSaviq: yes, that's why it was "canceled", while it actually landed to both ubuntu and rtm09:24
seb128sil2100, non translatable UI in an important component like that is likely rc if you ask people who tag bugs09:24
Mirvsil2100: were there any open points left from the meeting?09:24
ogra_Saviq, that landing was missing a seed change that would had had to go alongside ... additionally these two packages were hardcoded in livecd-rootfs ... seed and an update for the hardcoding was dont by cjwatson ... i additionally added a forcing of the right alternative09:25
sil2100Mirv: let me get to you in a moment09:25
sil2100seb128: ok, I think this might be a candidate for ubuntu-rtm then09:25
seb128sil2100, great ;-)09:25
ogra_Saviq, all changes for this were dont outside of qtmir09:25
MirvSaviq: actually, isn't https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/qtmir/trunk now up-to-date?09:25
SaviqMirv, yeah, it is, landed Friday09:26
SaviqMirv, but rtm isn't09:26
Mirvwhen I looked on Saturday, I did see some branches didn't seemingly match what got published (and the spreadsheet indicated 0.8.0 was reverted and then there's now a "retry" landing)09:26
SaviqMirv, but as you can see there's no 1007 release09:26
SaviqMirv, so I'm just after reconciling this09:26
Saviqbut it will happen with the Mir 0.8 silo into rtm09:26
MirvSaviq: ...09:26
MirvSaviq: you're correct09:26
Saviqas rtm currently has 1007 for qtmir and 1006 for qtmir-gles09:27
Saviqno09:27
Saviq1007 for qtmir-gles, too09:27
ogra_https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2014-October/000638.html09:27
Saviqjust there's no such release in lp:qtmir is all09:27
MirvSaviq: ah, right, so 1010 is the retry and that landed in utopic, and is waiting for QA sign-off09:27
SaviqMirv, yup09:27
bzoltanbrendand:  one changelog entry was not correct and I checkthe bugs this releases fixes -> https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/landing-1010/+merge/23791309:27
MirvSaviq: since this whole complexity came from that 1007 both landed and was canceled, I believe 1007 will not be merged to the packaging branch09:28
SaviqMirv, yeah, that's fine09:28
SaviqMirv, will it get through though, didn't we lock down rtm already?09:28
ogra_not for critical fixes09:28
Saviqyeah, well, what is critical about Mir 0.8? :)09:29
cjwatsonMirv: one landing was cancelled but then it was relanded ... right, I think you got there09:29
Saviqapart from the fact it's already there in rtm :)09:29
MirvSaviq: what's the delta from 1007 to 1010, does it fix any critical fixes? that I failed to notice, since the image blowing up was not something that was fixed 1007 -> 1010, so there must have been soething else that triggered the original "let's cancel 1007, and retry"09:29
ogra_it critically ate a few peoples weekends :P09:29
cjwatsonMirv: the relanding on utopic had one extra branch for arm64; I advised not to bother with that for ubuntu-rtm (it could just go in a subsequent landing)09:29
brendandbzoltan, for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1378261 is included but not tagged with RTM09:29
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1378261 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Impossible to make head.contents fill the available space" [Critical,Fix committed]09:30
Mirvcjwatson: ah, now it all starts to make sense!09:30
cjwatsonMirv: the cancelling was due to arm64 build failures and a series of miscommunications09:30
SaviqMirv, since the silo *did* land09:30
cjwatsonMirv: it had nothing to do with the image failures09:30
SaviqMirv, I don't think there's any delta09:30
MirvSaviq: so if only Mir 0.8.0 change from 1007 to 1010 is that arm64 fix ^, there's no real need to get that landed09:30
Saviqyeah what I thought09:30
Mirvcjwatson: yes, it didn't have, and it's nice to know it was something as small as that arm64 issue09:32
MirvI added a note to the landing line, it won't need to go in and consume QA resources09:33
bzoltanbrendand:  that is a bit size fix of a very ugly UI bug... the header text and button were possible to overlap09:33
MirvSaviq: it even seems just a rebuild http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8551359/09:34
Mirvfor example qtmir, mir probably has some small change09:35
ogra_Mirv, Saviq, cjwatson well, what if we need a quick fix of qtmir, wont the unmerged bit get in our way ?09:35
Saviqogra_, we do, I'm preparing a cherry-pick silo09:35
ogra_k09:35
Saviqogra_, but I don't think it will get in our way, no09:35
Mirvogra_: very slightly, just a sync of changelog might be needed09:36
MirvSaviq: it's possible some trickery be needed, or simply checking manually and forcing the CI train ignore the diffference between what's in rtm and what''s in changelog09:36
ogra_good then ... just want to make sure that we dont get bitten by it with that possible hotfix on wed. evening :)09:37
SaviqMirv, mhm09:37
SaviqMirv, while I have you here then, can I have a silo for line 86 please09:38
SaviqMirv, there's a conflicting silo 13, but I should be able to land before ted wakes up09:38
davmor2ogra_: by the way thanks for fixing the mess Saturday you were the only person I got think of :)09:39
ogra_davmor2, heh, welcome09:39
sil2100brendand: so, regarding the landings principles that we have now regarding critical bugs, there was a follow-up e-mail from Olli about it and he mentioned that bugs that are not from the rtm14 milestone list need to be reviewed by our LT and by the product team if they can land09:40
brendandsil2100, yep but no-one from product is here yet09:40
MirvSaviq: sure09:42
bzoltansil2100: one practical question. Who are licensed to mark bugs with rtm14 tag? because I keep seeing from all different people marking my bugs with rtm1409:45
sil2100bzoltan: I do not know the specifics regarding that, but it should probably be someone from the product team09:45
sil2100Or at least after consultation with the product team09:46
t1mpsil2100: who is the product team? I see a lot of people tagging bugs with rtm14 for uitk09:46
ogra_t1mp, bzoltan, the tagging only counts if the bug is also critical09:47
bzoltansil2100: yes, I see. I am in trouble with the ongoing UITK landing.. it does have super important and critical fixes .. including the organizer-eds and others.09:47
cjwatsonogra_: the unmerged bit was in mir, not qtmir09:48
bzoltansil2100: ogra_: brendand: so what to do to see the silo13 landing?09:48
sil2100t1mp, bzoltan: I usually poke asac or Victor whenever I have questions09:48
ogra_(i mean .. the tagging surely counts for something ... but only if both conditions are true the bug is for pre-thu.)09:49
sil2100But we might need to wait a bit for some more people to log in09:49
cjwatsonogra_: and if so I would have thought that really we should just include the unmerged bit; it's clearly harmless09:49
sil2100For now, we're stalled09:49
ogra_cjwatson, ah09:49
bzoltanogra_: sil2100: this new rule makes sense and sounds logical... only if I would have known about it before I started this landing.09:49
ogra_bzoltan, that rule exists since over a month09:50
ogra_it was just not enforced very consequently i think09:51
sil2100bzoltan: so, I was informed that most EM landers have been informed, but it seems the 'most' part was a bit overrated09:51
sil2100bzoltan: I got the info about this policy on Friday evening, so I didn't have time to send out that to everyone09:52
bzoltanogra_: sil2100: I have been landing dozens of bitesize fixes in the UITK ...09:52
sil2100bzoltan: we might get those assessed and still accepted, so let's see what the product guys say09:52
ogra_yeah09:53
bzoltansil2100: ogra_: since we are landing thru a staging branch it is not trivial to change09:53
sil2100I'll clear out some things with people and send an official announce09:53
bzoltansil2100: ogra_: but obviously we do focus on RTM and critical bugs ... the actual landing has only important fixes... but hack, we do fix oneliner small bugs if they make the UITK more pretty and better.09:54
bzoltansil2100: ogra_: but not from now, as I do understand the rules...09:54
ogra_bzoltan, you dont need to convince either of us, we didnt make the rule :)09:54
sil2100bzoltan: ok, btw. there has been an e-mail from olli to the ue-leads09:54
sil2100On Friday09:54
sil2100At least about the basic rules of that09:55
LaneyWhy to a private list?09:55
ogra_bzoltan, i'm all with you for one liners, i would do these myself09:55
* ogra_ hides that last sentence from brendand 09:55
bzoltansil2100:  local time 9:30 ... :) I hardly reached those mails yet09:56
bzoltanogra_: sil2100: i am not against the rule... I have massive corporate history :) I am very good at respecting rules. My problem is that this rule came after I made the landing MR, run a 10h tests, logged all the results and requested a QA signoff09:57
sil2100hah, maybe this would be an additional argument for letting this through ;)09:58
* ogra_ would definitely let it through if it gets QA signoff ... but i guess QA will check the rules before approving09:59
pstolowskiMirv, hey, re your comment in line #55, do I need to reconfigure or rebuild the silo after the other stuff you mentioned in the comment landed?10:01
Mirvpstolowski: let's see what I've commented :)10:03
Mirvpstolowski: since it landed first to utopic (both the previous landing and that one), the trunk is sufficiently up-to-date so the only thing that matters is that the first silo just gets QA signoffed published first10:04
Mirvpstolowski: aand the previous landing landed at https://lists.canonical.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2014-October/000678.html so no worries. atdded a comment.10:08
abeatosil2100, hey, could I get a silo for line 85?10:08
sil2100abeato: let me take a look10:08
abeatook, thanks10:08
sil2100abeato: is there a bug for that?10:09
pstolowskiMirv, thanks!10:09
abeatosil2100, https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/135633010:09
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 1356330 not found10:09
sil2100abeato: excellent, thanks!10:10
Mirvmzanetti: from my understanding, with my new qtbase PPA build bug #1357321 would perhaps be really ready for testing10:11
ubot5bug 1357321 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "QNetworkAccessManager doesn't support roaming on Ubuntu" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135732110:11
mzanettiMirv: ah right. yeah, it did improve the situation, there were some hickups still. I've told lorn about it.10:12
Mirvmzanetti: so that new build is from today and has the updated patch set from Lorn (unless you git updated qtbase yourself from his patched version). I do not know for sure if that new patchset fixes all those issues you reported or not.10:13
LaneyCan someone share the configuration for uploading to RTM PPAs please?10:26
LaneyAlso what should Distribution: be?10:26
sil2100Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8551599/10:27
Laneythought so10:29
ogra_erm10:30
Laneythat's ubuntu-rtm itself but I infer the pattern10:30
ogra_you dont need *any* change10:30
ogra_just make sure to use ubuntu-rtm/ in the ppa url10:30
ogra_at least with the recent dput10:31
brendandpstolowski, need to talk about silo 1410:31
ogra_(which should be in trusty and utopic)10:31
* Mirv uses http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8551609/ for dput10:32
LaneyIt seems that you should be able to use ppa:ubuntu-rtm/ci-train-ppa-service/landing-foo10:32
Laneyyes?10:32
* Laney is using dput-ng10:32
ogra_Laney, wrong order10:33
Laneythe other way around actually10:33
Laneyit's user/distribution/ppa10:33
ogra_$user/$distro/$ppa10:33
ogra_*snap*10:33
ogra_:)10:33
LaneyWCPGW10:33
popeyShip it!10:33
ogra_DONE!10:33
pstolowskibrendand, hey, what's up?10:33
Mirvthanks everyone!10:33
brendandpstolowski, so there are some new rules now about landings only containing rtm+critical bug fixes10:34
Mirvthe ship has sailed10:34
brendandpstolowski, we need to retroactively apply that criteria to silo 1410:34
Mirva silo ship10:34
ogra_:)10:35
brendandpstolowski, the bugs for unity-scopes-api aren't tagged and i don't understand them enough to know if they are required to fix such bugs: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-014/+packages10:35
brendandpstolowski, and unity-scopes-shell has no bugs listed10:35
pstolowskibrendand, 1 sec, i asked marcus to join10:36
pstolowskimarcustomlinson, the backlog - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8551633/10:38
pstolowskibrendand, when it comes to unity-scopes-shell - the change plays important role in fixing oauth issues (which are part of unity-scopes-api), but you're right, we forgot to link it to the bug10:40
ogra_popey, hmm, didnt you add an MP for the remider accounts deb removal ? i dont see anything on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic/+activereviews10:41
Laneyogra_: what's Distribution (in the changelog and _source.changes file) meant to be?10:44
brendandpstolowski, what about the untagged bugs?10:45
brendandpstolowski, actually sorry there is another problem - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scopes-api/+bug/137714710:46
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1377147 in unity-scopes-api (Ubuntu) "OnlineAccountClient hangs on construction" [High,Fix released]10:46
brendandpstolowski, that is not wanted to land. https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350093 is though10:46
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1350093 in unity-scope-click (Ubuntu RTM) "[UX performance] Opening Accounts settings from the scope does not take you directly to Ubuntu One new account page" [Critical,In progress]10:46
popeyogra_: gah, yes I did10:52
pete-woodscjwatson: hi, just wanted to check if merge https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/click/add-cmake-extras/+merge/235768 was still needed? or if you include the sdk-libs metapackage with click schroot now?10:52
pstolowskibrendand, i'm a little confused ;), so, to summarize: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scopes-api/+bug/1377147 is not wanted because it's high, not critical? and unity-scopes-shell changelog doesn't link to any bug?10:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1377147 in unity-scopes-api (Ubuntu) "OnlineAccountClient hangs on construction" [High,Fix released]10:53
popeyogra_: done10:54
Laneyabeato: wait, that silo is not rtm10:54
brendandpstolowski, yes that's pretty much it10:54
brendandpstolowski, also https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374206 is a bit unclear about the purpose10:55
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1374206 in unity-scopes-api (Ubuntu) "Need socket garabage collector" [Undecided,Fix released]10:55
brendandpstolowski, is it independent fix or needed for something else?10:55
abeatoLaney, yes, do you want to land this only for RTM? the patch makes sense for utopic too10:57
Laneyit already is10:57
abeatoit already landed in utopic?10:57
Laneyyes10:57
ogra_Laney, 14.0910:57
LaneyI told you that last week10:57
abeatoLaney, ok, I see, sil2100 we only need an RTM silo for gst-plugins10:58
LaneyI can fix that10:58
sil2100ACK10:58
* Laney super cow powers10:58
sil2100Ok, let me assign an RTM silo  then10:58
pstolowskibrendand, independent, i think it has to do with saving battery (no need to poll infinitely)10:59
pstolowskibrendand, i think all these bugs should have been critical. what do i need to do? get their priority raised?11:00
Mirvtvoss: I'm putting your location-service rtm landing to QA team's signoff list. does the sync only include fixes for critical bugs?11:01
tvossMirv, yup11:02
tvossMirv, let me find links11:02
Mirvtvoss: thanks!11:03
Mirvtvoss: do you know what' the status of line 78 "HERE wk41 update" custom tarball update. it's marked as "landed" for utopic, but empty for rtm?11:04
tvosslool, ^11:04
brendandtvoss, please make sure that's clear and reflected in the changelog11:04
brendandtvoss, Mirv - Critical + rtm1411:05
brendandWellark, silo 3 should be seen to today11:06
Mirvtvoss: brendand: to me it'd look like the changelog does not explicitly list the bug numbers https://launchpadlibrarian.net/187007357/location-service_2.1%2B14.10.20141008-0ubuntu1_2.1%2B14.10.20141010-0ubuntu1.diff.gz11:06
Wellarkbrendand: apn editor?11:06
Mirv(current rtm version is that 1008)11:06
Wellarkwhat happened to that?11:06
brendandWellark, indicator-network actually11:07
brendandWellark, has a fix for a top crasher11:07
tvossMirv, I linked the respective branch to both bugs. Is that somehow queryable for you?11:07
tvossbrendand, ^11:07
brendandtvoss, if the bugs aren't in the changelog they should be mentioned in the description of the silo11:07
Wellarkbrendand: oh, ok.11:08
Mirvtvoss: brendand: I added the bug to the description of silo now. "Prefer /system/etc/gps.conf over /etc/gps.conf." change isn't accounted for yet, though11:08
Wellarktrainguards: what happened to the apn editor?11:08
Wellarkthe utopic landing is on line 6 of the landing sheet11:08
Wellarkbut the RTM landing is moved to the archive11:09
brendandoooh, did it land?11:09
MirvWellark: seems rtm landed, utopic not tested by upstream?11:09
WellarkMirv: I'm just trying to understand how the RTM was landed but not utopic11:10
Wellarkthe rtm is in archive tab on line 179611:11
MirvWellark: upstream tested and gave it to QA signoff before testing it on utopic, ie went rtm first. they should have tested the utopic by now though.11:12
WellarkMirv: ok. who should I bug to get the latest status of the signoff?11:13
MirvWellark: you mean, the status of the signoff for rtm silo? for utopic silo, no upstream signoff is needed, but upstream needs to test it.11:13
Mirvbrendand: tvoss: ok, rtm-005 "sync over latest location service fixes to RTM" is clear now, and explained in the spreadsheet. I'll add a comment to the trello too.11:14
tvossMirv, thank you11:14
WellarkMirv: oh, riight.. it's missing "Testing Pass"...11:15
brendandWellark, APN editor landed? where is it supposed to be (in the ui)?11:16
Wellarkbrendand: it's claimed to have landed for the rtm images11:16
Wellarkbrendand: system-settings -> Cellular -> Choose Carrier -> APN11:17
brendandWellark, perhaps it isn't in an image yet11:18
Wellarkbrendand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ubuntu-system-settings#Edit_APN11:18
ogra_brendand, doesnt look like anything landed in rtm https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic/+activereviews11:19
ogra_err11:19
ogra_sorry11:19
ogra_https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2014-October/thread.html11:19
ogra_wrong paste11:19
ogra_(livecd-rootfs was the weekendish fix )11:19
Wellarkogra_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2014-October/000652.html11:20
Mirvtvoss: I kind of assume line 7 location-service trust-store dbus-cpp ubuntu-location-provider-here landing is obsolete now and you'll have separate new landings if any?11:20
tvossMirv, is that ubuntu or rtm?11:21
Mirvtvoss: rtm11:21
tvossMirv, don't see it11:21
Wellarkerm.. what11:21
Wellarkhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2014-October/000653.html11:21
Mirvtvoss: "Location Service and HERE updates", line 7, a sync from utopic11:21
ogra_Wellark, hmm, well, that would have been image 95 ...11:21
Wellarkogra_: see above11:21
ogra_Wellark, i dont see such an option on 101 here11:21
tvosslool, ^?11:21
Mirvtvoss: the whole description http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8551862/11:22
Wellarkogra_: it got reverted11:22
ogra_ah11:22
tvossMirv, should be superseded11:22
Mirvtvoss: ok11:22
Wellarkbut it's in the archive11:23
Wellark*arvhived tab11:23
ogra_Wellark, right, seems that slangasek didnt change the spreadsheet back to "not landed" or some such11:23
Mirvtvoss: I think these multiple location-service landings accumulating is because trainguard_s tend to add the rtm sync silo automatically, and you've instead landed only to utopic and then you selectively add new lines for the rtm syncs11:23
Mirvtvoss: thanks again!11:23
ogra_(if we even have such a thing)11:23
Wellarktrainguards: please restore "apn editor" for rtm from Archived to Pending11:24
MirvWellark: ok, in a minute11:24
Wellarkas per https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2014-October/000653.html11:24
WellarkMirv: the utopic landing is on line 611:25
Mirvjhodapp: I've added that I'll remove the line 9 "Use highest resolution for front camera" utopic landing if there is no status update. you might want to get it synced from rtm if they are now not in sync.11:25
tvossMirv, yup, cool11:25
alan_gcihelp - since end last week we've been seeing a lot "virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory" failures on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-utopic-amd64-ci/ - AFAICS this isn't due code changes, has something changed in the server setup?11:25
ogra_Wellark, well, was whatever blocked QA fixed inbetween ?11:25
ogra_just re-landing the same thing wont help i guess11:26
Wellarkogra_: haven't had any reports that qa even was involved11:26
WellarkAFAIK they have not tested it yet11:26
ogra_Wellark, but you read the changelog of the revert ?11:26
sil2100Mirv: ok, hm, let me read the backlog, but is this situation resolved?11:26
ogra_  * Revert to 0.3+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1 as 0.3+14.10.20141007.2-11:26
ogra_    0ubuntu1 did not pass QA11:26
Mirvsil2100: depending on which of the situations you refer to :)11:27
Wellarkogra_: yes. it was landed without QA testing marked as "passed"11:27
sil2100Right, it was that landing that probably got published by accident by one of the trainguards11:27
Wellarkhence the revert11:27
ogra_Wellark, ah, the changelog isnt clear on that "did not pass" doesnt sound like "was not tested at all"11:29
MirvWellark: ok it's back now and has a silo, but rtm-006 should probably go in first, then utopic APN silo should be rebuilt and then synced to rtm silo.11:29
Mirv...which I wrote to the comment field11:29
WellarkMirv: kenvandine promised to take care of the landing11:29
WellarkI will relay him the information when he gets online11:29
MirvWellark: ok, thanks!11:30
Wellarkor at least tell him to /ping Mirv ;)11:30
sil2100Wellark: Ken probably won't be online today11:30
Wellark...11:31
ogra_columbus day in the US11:31
Mirvdamn columbus11:33
WellarkMirv: you are aware that you now asked for not to have qa signoff for the rtm landing?11:33
Mirvin that case it'd flow naturally that QA will test rtm-006 first.11:33
ogra_yeah, crazy to celebrate that someone got lost11:33
WellarkMirv: N/A (Mirv)11:33
MirvWellark: how so? the rtm is the topmost one, utopic the one I marked no QA signoff11:33
WellarkMirv: oh sorry11:34
Wellarkdidn't realize you changed the ordering :)11:34
looltvoss: sorry I dont get the context11:35
tvosslool, cancel the ping :)11:35
tvosslool, sorry for the confusion11:35
looltvoss: np11:35
sil2100Mirv, Wellark: all under control I see?11:35
looltvoss: just as a reminder, the updated HERE release is meant to land today in rtm (already in utopic)11:35
tvosslool, ack11:35
tvossMirv, ^11:35
Mirvtvoss: lool: I think the custom tarball rtm landing line was still a question mark?11:35
Wellarksil2100: as long as I find someone to do the testing :)11:36
sil2100Wellark: ;)11:36
Mirvtvoss: lool: ...which lool just answered11:36
Mirvlool: so do I assign a silo for it?11:36
loolMirv: no, no silo for custom tarball11:36
loolMirv: I think that's noted on the line as a reminder11:36
Mirvlool: right, so I thought, I just wondered why the utopic landing seemed to have had one11:36
loolMirv: cwayne is landing it; he merged the changes over the WE11:36
looloh crap, forgot it's a US holiday11:36
* sil2100 jumps out to lunch then11:36
sil2100lool: yeah...11:36
loolMirv: it might only be tomorrow then11:36
looltoo bad  :-(11:36
Mirv:(11:37
Wellarkjgdx: any idea where ken left with the system-settings landings on Friday?11:37
ogra_lool, i think he planned to jump in shortly today for exactly that11:37
ogra_someone said so in the landing meeting11:37
sil2100Be back soon - mup me if anything urgent appears, but I should be online in like 45 minutes11:37
ogra_(i think it was sil2100 )11:37
loologra_: oh nice11:38
loolwell, crossing fingers11:38
ogra_(and i think davmor2 is already testing)11:38
sil2100ogra_: I think john-mcaleely mentioned that the tarball is already pushed somewhere11:38
loolwe'll have at least another custom tarball update later this week anyway (espoo fixes)11:38
ogra_(see the private channel)11:38
loolsil2100: wasn't it device tarball?11:38
ogra_sil2100, right, to the testing channel for custom stuff11:38
sil2100lool: device tarball as well, but john-mcaleely mentioned something about the custom tarball too11:38
loolsil2100: device tarball: typically pushed through by john-mcaleely AIUI, custom tarball: typically pushed through by cwayne -- AIUI11:38
loolok11:38
sil2100brb11:38
sil2100o/11:39
* Mirv archived landed landings11:39
jgdxWellark, no11:39
cjwatsonpete-woods: it's still needed11:40
cjwatson(for now)11:40
john-mcaleelycustom tarball will be in ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed-customized, lool sil210011:41
Mirvpete-woods: is there a critical rtm14 bug to be linked to https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesh/unity-scope-mediascanner/click-support/+merge/237731 ?11:41
pete-woodsMirv: probably not, no11:41
pete-woodsit just introduces click packaging for those scopes11:42
Mirvpete-woods: by default only critical rtm14 bug fixes go in now11:42
pete-woodsyeah, I learned that after entering it11:42
Mirvand it probably doesn't make sense to land other fixes to utopic either11:43
pete-woodsokay11:43
Mirvyeah, I guess this'll get clarified a bit more broadly later today. just a bit more control on which bugs are tackled.11:43
looljohn-mcaleely: cool; happy to help QA when it's at that stage of testing11:43
john-mcaleelylool, I think it is now?11:48
john-mcaleely(I'm speaking for cwayne - I may be wrong)11:48
looljohn-mcaleely: he merged my stuff in, but I dont know whether the custom tarball is up; I'd thought cwayne would be off today11:49
lool(columbus day)11:49
jameshMirv: it is preparatory work for our part of bug 136733211:49
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1367332 could not be found11:49
john-mcaleelyhe is off, but I think he built it last night lool11:50
john-mcaleelyso I would expect it to be the latest image in that channel11:50
pete-woodssorry for the noise11:50
pete-woodsjust adding a bug to it, and tagging as rtm11:50
Mirvjamesh: pete-woods: if that's so, then I'll mention the bug number in the landing, assign a silo and add rtm silo line too11:50
Mirvpete-woods: ah ok, thanks11:50
jameshMirv: it doesn't actually switch the package over to a click build, so is low risk: it just adds a build option to do so11:51
looljohn-mcaleely: I do see an update from today, not sure how I can tell what's in it11:52
john-mcaleelylool, ok hrm11:52
Mirvjamesh: pete-woods: both utopic silo and a rtm sync silo fir it assigned11:53
looljohn-mcaleely: I've put line 44 as "QA: Required" now11:53
loolin landing spreadsheet11:53
looljohn-mcaleely: seems to be the only one with cwayne, so I'm assuming it's the only update he's landing in the custom tarball11:53
loolchecking bzr now11:53
looljohn-mcaleely: hmm there are other updates in bzr; I would expect this to be captured somewhere in a landing, but I have no prior experience to these landings11:54
loolI just know how to land the other custom tarballs or how to promote from the proposed channel to the regular one11:54
john-mcaleelylool, hrm. Yes, I'm unfamiliar with the details too11:54
john-mcaleelyso, I know cwanye asked davmor2 / sil200 for a QA pass on a tarball today11:55
john-mcaleelyso, I think the right thing is for that custom tarball to be QA'd, and then promoted if it passes11:55
john-mcaleelywhether it has the changes you need, i can't say11:56
john-mcaleelylool, ^11:56
looljohn-mcaleely: yeah; I'm hoping that's underway now that I've marked this as QA: Required11:57
loolwill check trello in a few11:57
loolthe queue is rather long though11:57
pete-woodsMirv: thanks for the silo! :)12:00
john-mcaleelyogra_, brendand davmor2 new device tarball up12:04
john-mcaleelyhttp://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/device_krillin-20141013-0e11263.tar.xz12:04
john-mcaleelyhttp://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/device_krillin-20141013-0e11263.changes12:04
john-mcaleelyhttp://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/device_krillin-testresults-20141013-0e11263.ods12:05
john-mcaleelyPlease do your usual QA signoff when you have some time davmor2 brendand ? ^12:05
ogra_cool12:05
cjwatsonFWIW I'd like to try to at least start landing the fix for bug 1367332 today12:12
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1367332 could not be found12:12
cjwatsonrunning a test livefs build in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/utopic/ubuntu-touch/+build/8947 now12:13
Wellarkseb128: do you have a handle the pending system-settings landings?12:14
seb128Wellark, which ones? but yeah, I'm going to do landings while Ken is not there12:14
Wellarkseb128: my only concern is the APN editor right now12:15
Wellarkand I have no idea how far ken got with the landings on Friday12:15
seb128that's pending approval from qa afaik12:16
seb128that's why it got reverted12:16
Wellarkseb128: well, they are missing Testing Pass12:16
Wellarkwhich afaik ken was supposed to ACK12:16
Wellarkonce he gets the silos rebuild after each landing12:16
ricmmcjwatson: hi, could I get a reconfigure on silo 17 (rtm) ?12:17
ricmmI've changed a branch target12:17
Saviqtrainguards, I can has reconfigure in silo 10 please, added the -gles sync12:19
Wellarkseb128: so, QA can't do their testing without Testing Pass first12:20
Wellarkand I don't know if ken just forgot to set it12:20
cjwatsonricmm: done12:21
ricmmcjwatson: thanks12:21
seb128Wellark, jgdx might be able to help testing, can you ping him about it?12:22
Wellarkseb128: jgdx might be able to test, but we need to know the ordering, as if anything else lands in system-settings before the apn editor silo, then we have to test again after a rebuild12:24
seb128right12:24
seb128well if you get it tested we can land that first12:24
seb128but if doesn't get tested we are not going to block forever on it either12:24
Wellarkseb128: ok. do you know if the silo is up to date?12:25
Wellarkjgdx: can you help testing?12:25
Saviqcjwatson, could I also get a reconf on silo 10 please, added qtmir-gles to sync12:25
Wellarkseb128: or we can just rebuild it for just in case12:25
cjwatsonSaviq: already working on it12:25
Saviqcjwatson, ah thanks12:25
cjwatson(not that I'm on duty today or anything, but people seem to have decided I'm an active trainguard :-) )12:26
cjwatsonricmm: FWIW for that kind of change you can just use the thing in column L of the spreadsheet yourself; doesn't require a landing team member12:26
ricmmoh didnt know, thanks12:26
cjwatsonthat kind> just adding/removing/changing branches, rather than changing the set of components involved12:26
Saviqcjwatson, you just *are* active, everyone else seems to be lunching ;)12:26
cjwatsonshould clearly stop having lunch at my desk12:27
Wellarkseb128: so, should I trigger the rebuild?12:27
seb128Wellark, I don't know, should be easy to check, I guess it is if Ken worked on it on friday12:28
MirvSaviq: did you get it already?12:28
SaviqMirv, cjwatson's working on it, thanks12:29
cjwatsonSaviq: done.  I overrode conflicts with silos 13 and 15 since those were essentially pre-existing12:29
Mirvright12:29
Saviqcjwatson, yup12:29
Mirvthanks12:29
Wellarkseb128: easy for you perhaps :)12:29
Wellarksatoris, jgdx: test plan for the APN editor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ubuntu-system-settings#Edit_APN12:29
seb128Wellark, shrug12:29
Wellarksatoris, jgdx: utopic silo https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-02012:30
seb128Wellark, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-020-1-build/64/console12:31
seb128Wellark, it needs a rebuild, it was based on 20141009 and we got an update on the 1012:31
Wellarkjgdx, satoris: rtm silo https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-00212:31
Wellarkjgdx, seb128, satoris: kicking rebuilds now12:31
seb128k12:32
seb128I'm away for a bit12:32
seb128going to check on that when I'm back12:32
sergiusensbrendand: davmor2 hey, how is the trello boad processed, bottom up or top down?12:34
davmor2sergiusens: top to bottom12:34
ogra_left to right12:34
ogra_:)12:34
davmor2ogra_: no I think the correct response will now always be bunnies to dragons and wonder off :)12:36
ogra_haha12:37
bzoltanMirv:  could you give me a silo to push the bugfix what victorp needs?12:38
Mirvbzoltan: ok. and rtm sync silo too?12:44
bzoltanMirv:  only RTM, no gles12:45
bzoltanMirv:  preferable not even trunk merge :)12:45
Mirvbzoltan: if I saw correctly you had marked that as utopic silo, but now google docs claims there are too many users...12:45
Mirvok, loaded, right, rtm12:45
Mirvbzoltan: silo rtm-01512:46
Wellarksatoris, jgdx: rtm silo ready for testing12:56
fgintheralan_g, hello. Looks like an example of this here: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-utopic-amd64-ci/140/console12:59
fgintheralan_g, the pbuilder slaves have been moved to cloud instances a few weeks ago, but it sounds like this problem just started in the past few days?13:00
fgintheralan_g, I'm going to reduce the number of parallel build jobs from for 4 to 2 and see what impact that has on the problem. Though it's a bit surprising to see an out of virtual memory error.13:08
fgintheralan_g, if that doesn't help, I can add some swap as well.13:09
fgintheralan_g, strange that if it was due to the new instances that it didn't show up sooner. Makes me wonder if a possible compiler or similar update might also be in play13:10
cjwatsoncihelp: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/click-devel-utopic-amd64-ci/100/console is failing because "bzr bd" is run outside the chroot without the build-dependencies necessarily being installed.  This is probably difficult to fix properly, but would it be possible to ensure that dh-systemd is always installed in this context?13:12
cjwatsonmvo: ^- cc since that's on your branch13:12
fginthercjwatson, yes, that can be done13:13
mvothanks cjwatson13:13
fginthercjwatson, mvo, I'll rerun the MP after the update is pushed through13:14
cjwatsonta13:14
satorisWellark: running apn test seems to work, but for some reason system-image-cli -i says the build number is 0.13:40
ogra_it only dos that if you didnt do a proper install13:41
ogra_(with a proper ubuntu-device-flash system-image sets the number ... )13:42
alan_gfginther: thanks - I'll keep a watch13:43
satorisIt's flashed with the same script I have been using for weeks. And looking at documentation the command it uses is exactly right.13:44
ogra_script ?13:45
satorisA shell script containing the flashing command.13:45
satorisSo I don't have to copypaste it every time. :)13:45
ogra_it should just be ubuntu-devcie-flash --channel ... --bootstrap (and the device being in bootloader)13:45
ogra_(and indeed the right channel you want to test against)13:45
ogra_optionally use --developer-mode and --password13:46
satorisThat's exactly what I use except for the bootstrap bit. I don't think I have ever used that. If I need to wipe, I use --wipe.13:46
ogra_(to get adb if you need)13:46
ogra_ugh13:46
ogra_you want to always use --bootstrap ... else it might leave cruft around13:47
ogra_(--bootstrap formats the partitions and makes sure you get the new kernel and recovery images first=13:47
ogra_)13:47
satorisI have never had that happen to me, but let's try that just to be sure.13:47
ogra_--wipe only removes stuff from the home dir13:47
satorisIt also marks root non-readable.13:48
ogra_yes, if you need it writable you need to use phablet-config --writable-image13:48
ogra_after flashing13:49
* ogra_ wonders if anyone ever reads the official testing documentation we have 13:49
* satoris has because he knew that.13:49
ogra_in any case an image number of 0 means that system-image doesnt consider your install a system-image at all ... which means most likely something went wrong with yor installation13:50
brendandogra_, everyone should know about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing14:05
brendandnot saying they do, just that they should14:05
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ogra_brendand, yeah14:14
Mirvricmm: you'll need qtmir-gles branch too that targets lp:qtmir/gles and which has content like this https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/qtmir/gles-sync-mir/+merge/236423 but new date (matching your qtmir build) and landing-017 instead14:26
ricmmyea14:26
ricmmworking on that one14:26
Mirvokay14:26
dbarthhi trainguards: i have verified, both the rtm and utopic version of silo rtm 009; let me know when it can get tested by QA for signoff14:27
Mirvdbarth: utopic published, we don't know the QA signoff schedule but the queue can be seen here https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu/silo-testing-for-questions-ping-eu-jibel-us-jfunk-nz-thomi-or-ubuntu-qa-on-ubuntu-ci-eng14:28
dbarthMirv: yup, i know; it's just that it was somehow a tthe top of the pile, but i think i was doubled by other silos14:29
dbarth;)14:30
MirvWellark: ^ previous u-s-s being published14:31
ricmmMirv: could you reconf 017 then14:31
ricmmI've added the MR now14:32
ricmmnvm I'll use column L, forgot14:32
Mirvricmm: done14:32
Mirv..already14:32
ricmmnevermind it needs a trainguard14:32
ricmmfailed my run as its a new component14:32
ricmmI cant add just reconf existing :(14:33
ricmmapparently14:33
brendandMirv, does http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=landing-001 need sign-off?14:33
Mirvbrendand: my understanding was that no, it's not going in as there's nothing signficant in there compared to what's already in rtm14:37
Mirvbrendand: of course, it's useful to now also ping camako about that14:38
brendandMirv, 'not going in' as in doesn't need to be landed?14:38
john-mcaleelybrendand, davmor2 any news on the device tarball?14:38
Mirvcamako: ...that mir 0.8.0 "retry" RTM apparently wouldn't need to go in, as it only contains arm64 fix that went to utopic and otherwise rtm is equal already with the previous 0.8.0 landing?14:39
Mirvbrendand: yes, that's what I think.14:39
ricmmhttps://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-017-1-build/29/console14:40
ricmmwhat does this mean?14:40
Mirvbrendand: camako: my understanding is that the "retry" 0.8.0 silo has only this change, making it irrelevant to land that silo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8552961/14:41
Mirvricmm: a delta between https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/qtmir/rtm-14.09 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/qtmir14:42
Mirvricmm: ie not your fault..14:43
brendandcamako, can you clear that up? if it doesn't need to land it's just blocking a silo14:43
ricmmoh, the branch is broken14:43
ricmmSaviq: ^14:43
ricmmhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/qtmir/0.4.3+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1 is not in the branch history14:43
MirvSaviq: ricmm: manual diffing shows this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8552980/14:44
brendandtedg, hello14:44
Mirvso that apparently didn't land in the branch, that rebuild14:44
brendandtedg, need to check some things about silo 1214:45
davmor2john-mcaleely: sorry just finished the custom tarball looking at it now14:45
ricmmMirv: looks like some fallout14:45
ricmmfrom the 0.8.0 fail-to-land ?14:45
john-mcaleelydavmor2, no problem, just curious :-)14:45
john-mcaleelydavmor2, thanks!14:45
Mirvricmm: yes. I could push it to the trunk, but I'd really like someone from the Mir team to check up their branches and ensure they're all correct. it's already complex now with the mixups of 0.8.0 landings, and rtm deviating from utopic.14:51
Mirvthey can just eg. apply that diff and bzr push, if they just know it's correct14:51
cjwatsonMirv: I think it's already in trunk14:52
cjwatsonsince I merged-and-cleaned the silo that ended up in utopic14:52
Mirvcjwatson: yes, but the rtm has a different branch now https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/qtmir/rtm-14.0914:52
cjwatsonoh maybe not the rebuild, ok14:52
Mirvso utopic is up-to-date, rtm is not14:52
cjwatsonthe stuff that actually matters :P14:52
ogra_we could re-consider that ... we have still three days to go back to utopic and drop rtm :P14:56
ricmmso14:56
ricmmhow do I build my silo14:56
ricmm:(14:56
ogra_(seems to be in fashion to have high level last minute decisions this week)14:56
Mirvricmm: I guess I'll push the diff if no Mir guys around14:56
ricmmno dont rush it14:57
ricmmlets give them a bit14:57
ricmmcamako: alan_g14:57
Mirvricmm: I pushed, they can review it also after the silo build is done and can be tested. making the branch match what's in archives is not a wrong thing to do, I more like would them to just go over (if they haven't already) and check that both their utopic + rtm branches are what they want them to be, and same for what's in the archives14:58
alan_gricmm: ?14:58
Mirvalan_g: I pushed #267 to https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/qtmir/rtm-14.09, syncing from archives. I'd just like someone from the Mir team to be on top of archive vs. branch delta in both utopic + 14.09, so that it's all under control14:58
Mirvalan_g: as the 0.8.0 landing had some rough edges and utopic != rtm now14:59
ricmmalan_g: I dont really know whats going on, but we needed some mir input bout the 0.8.0 landing14:59
cjwatsonthe rough edges have been smoothed over for the purposes of RTM now14:59
ricmmMirv: thank you it seems to be moving along now15:00
cjwatsonnot ideally in some ways, but a further landing isn't going to make a difference if it doesn't rearrange the lib*-{mesa,android} bits again15:00
Mirvarchive seems correct, the branches possibly not - for example there's no rtm packaging branch of Mir itself, only https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/ubuntu15:00
Mirvbut someone did make the rtm-14.09 branch of qtmir15:00
cjwatsonthey were meant to be in sync and only temporarily diverged due to the arm64 mini-branch15:01
cjwatsonthe mir team were quite clear to me that they did not want to fork15:01
Mirvalan_g: so, this is mostly much talk about small divergence, which may not matter at all whenever next Mir release is made and utopic + rtm go back in sync15:01
alan_gMirv: AFAIKthere's no fork for rtm15:01
Mirvcjwatson: right, ok, then it's more like a mistake or a temporary solution that they have the qtmir rtm branch in the first place15:01
cjwatsonthere's no *intended* fork for rtm15:01
cjwatsonthe versions are not in sync right now, but I understand that to be temporary15:02
Mirvalan_g: thanks, that's probably all that was needed to know.15:02
alan_gI can't speack for qtmir15:02
cjwatsonand that's more a matter of utopic being one branch ahead, than a fork15:02
cjwatsonI'm talking about mir15:02
alan_gJust mir15:02
cjwatsonI advise all product owners to know how to use rmadison to see the state of their packages15:02
cjwatsonand the corresponding Launchpad UI15:02
ricmmMirv: could you also push to the -gles trunk?15:06
ricmmthat one is missing there as well, apparently15:06
ricmmMirv: :D15:13
Mirvricmm: the  lp:~mir-team/qtmir/rtm-14.09-gles-sync ? right, syncing from archives that too15:14
Mirvricmm: done, you probably need to rebase15:16
ricmmyup, thanks15:17
ricmmjesus im totally fried15:23
ricmm57th times the charm15:24
ogra_ricmm, looks like you have a conflict in your silo15:24
* ogra_ hides behind something 15:24
Mirvtvoss: utopic 01615:25
tvossMirv, awesome, thank you15:25
Mirvtrainguards: please take over guarding the train :)15:26
sil2100Internet \o/15:30
sil2100Mirv: in the meantime, while having no connection, I prepared a fix for the issue with m&c where it was succeeding on failure15:31
ricmmwhat the15:31
ricmmwhat now15:31
ricmmhate silo 1715:31
sil2100ricmm: that usually means something different15:31
sil2100ricmm: let's look at the logs15:31
ricmmah shit15:31
ricmmneed to push qtmir first15:32
ricmmthen qtmir-gles15:32
* ogra_ hands ricmm a bottle of valerian 15:32
sil2100Right, it seems to be missing qtmir from the silo15:32
Mirvsil2100: oh, you weren't here? :) ok15:32
Mirvricmm: you need to build with "ignore missing twin package" the qtmir first, then qtmir-gles so that it finds qtmir's sources15:33
sil2100Mirv: I were here for varying periods of time15:33
sil2100Mirv: whenever WiFi was working and not ;)15:33
Mirvricmm: or that's what I've understood, I've not build those myself15:33
sil2100So I assume some parts of the conversations I missed15:33
Mirvsil2100: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/13/%23ubuntu-ci-eng.html :)15:34
Mirv(updated hourly)15:34
MirvSaviq: ricmm: which one of you is going to land qtmir first to rtm...15:35
Mirvre: utopic 01015:35
Mirvif that's synced to an rtm silo, then there are two with qtmir15:35
Mirvof course qtmir is relatively trivial and fast to rebuild in either case, you just need to co-operate on the landing15:37
ricmmSaviq: choose, but choose wisely ;)15:37
ricmmare you landing today?15:37
Saviqricmm, yeah, was just about to land... but need to pull an MP and rebuild15:38
Saviqricmm, but not to rtm15:38
ricmmgo ahead and land then15:38
ricmmI still need a few hours of testing15:38
ricmm2-3 maybe15:38
ogra_bah, but i want the fix in rtm !15:38
ricmmlol15:38
ricmmogra_: you will test it in a few minutes15:38
* ogra_ is annoyed by the dash constantly restarting and stealing focus15:39
ricmmoh that fix15:39
sil2100The QML caching fixes are high priority in my opinion15:39
ogra_yeah15:39
ogra_sil2100, your opinion only counts if it is onteh list15:39
ogra_:P15:39
sil2100ogra_: is that the bug you saw that everyone thought was 'the dash is crashing'? ;)15:40
ogra_(teh new buglist wejust got)15:40
sil2100The one from the Fwd?15:40
ogra_sil2100, yeah, Saviq has it in silo 01015:40
sil2100Yay15:40
ogra_sil2100, yup, that mmail15:41
sil2100Well, so, as always there's a lot of confusion going on15:41
ogra_yay15:41
ogra_sil2100, "Please note that the landing team will reject landings that are not on the list" sounds pretty clear to me though15:42
sil2100But anyway, I suppose the list has top-priority bugs, but if something else critical + rtm14 pops up it's still valid for considaration15:42
sil2100Yeah, which slightly cotradicts with the contents of the Fwd and what asac mentioned in his other e-mail ;p15:42
sil2100Just slightly15:42
ogra_sil2100, it says it needs escalation if you want to land it15:43
ogra_which i assume means approval by someone in the US ... who are all off today :P15:43
sil2100ogra_: remember, non-critical bugs need escalation! There's nothing mentioned about new critical bugs ;)15:43
ogra_lol15:43
sil2100;p15:43
* ogra_ marks everything critical15:43
sil2100hah, CHEATER15:43
ogra_nah, i play by the rules15:44
ogra_(your rules :P )15:44
sil2100My rules are easily bendable15:44
sil2100...;)15:44
ogra_like an iphone ?15:44
ogra_:)15:44
sil2100Anyway, what do you guys say on calling off our evening meeting? I guess we can coordinate anything here on IRC since there's only the crew from morning15:47
ogra_++15:48
ogra_good idea15:48
sil2100I'll continue my quest to patch up the train a little bit15:49
sil2100Still waiting for olli_ to be free to get some feedback for some of the formalities15:50
sil2100davmor2, brendand, ogra_, elopio: let's skip today's meeting then15:50
ogra_yep15:51
elopioack.15:51
WellarkMirv: what do you mean "previous"15:51
Wellarkwas there then in fact a pending merge that was not merged?15:51
Wellarkso we have to start over again?15:51
bzoltan1trainguards: may I get a silo for bout 8-10 hours. I need to push a desktop only fix for the QtC plugin.15:55
sil2100bzoltan1: sure, which landing row?15:56
bzoltan1sil2100:  ahh.. I forget that one :) 5915:56
sil2100bzoltan1: it's a fix landing, right? i.e. no new features, just fixes for i18n?15:58
sil2100bzoltan1: asking because of FF ;)15:59
popeyhmm, my devel-proposed phone (nexus 4) keeps offering me #279, i install, reboot and it still offers me #27915:59
popeyits currently on #274 and I can't update it15:59
MirvWellark: no, no, no pending merges, it was just that it needed to land first16:00
* cjwatson works on his third attempt today at test-building the livefs changes for moving click packages to /custom :-/16:00
WellarkMirv: so, no rebuilds?16:01
cjwatsoneach test upwards of an hour16:01
popeyno landing meeting?16:01
MirvWellark: yep, just "FYI" it went now in, next can be your u-s-s silo16:01
jibelpopey, I had the same problem and couldn't upgrade to 278.16:01
sil2100popey: argh! Didn't poke you, see poke of davmor2, brendand etc.16:01
jibelpopey, from 27416:01
sil2100popey: we called it off today since there's no US to hand-over work to16:02
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popeyk16:02
WellarkMirv: argh.. seems satoris did not finish the testing then..16:02
popeyjibel: what did you do in the end?16:02
Wellarkjgdx: any luck on your side?16:02
jibelpopey, upgraded with u-d-f16:03
popeyugh16:03
MirvWellark: ? this is the correct order, rtm-002 is built on top of the rtm-006 that now went in16:03
popeyjibel: bug filed?16:03
jibelpopey, I tried to delete/add my U1 account and it didn't change anything16:03
MirvWellark: but sure, 002 is not marked as tested..16:03
popeylast update: 1970-01-05 12:53:2516:03
popeythat looks wonky too16:03
jibelpopey, no, sorry, I've been side tracked then forgot16:03
MirvWellark: that said, as US is off I'm not sure it there would be anyone from QA to sign it off either16:04
bzoltan1sil2100:  yes, fixing the templates and fixing the click-reviewers-tool part16:04
brendandthis is true16:04
ogra_popey, jibel talk to stgraber ... we had various outages of the build server the last week ... due to out of diskspace issues ... probably there is a bad delta in utopic-proposed somewhere or so16:04
popeyok16:04
WellarkMirv: OK. let's leave it for tomorrow then..16:05
WellarkI need something to eat anyway16:05
sil2100bzoltan1: assigned!16:05
sil2100Mirv: I guess elopio might be around just in case :)16:05
bzoltan1sil2100: thank you16:06
Wellarkoh, well.. as it's going to need qa signoff anyway, I might just test by myself16:06
davmor2sil2100: you know that now I'm having to look at cats on youtube that you've lost me for the rest of the day, I rely on the meetings for my cat fix ;)16:07
sil2100hah ;)16:08
sil2100My girlfriend is pushing me hard on buying a cat too, sooner or later I might just join the cat-group16:08
davmor2sil2100: do it, do it already, you get more cats you have more speed on the interwebz honest ;)16:12
sil2100Still need to check if my landlords find cats acceptable here16:13
ricmmsil2100: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-017-1-build/35/console16:13
ricmmsil2100: I'm going to cry16:13
sil2100popey: what was that thing you once mentioned that makes the cat less allergy-troublesome?16:13
sil2100ricmm: let me look16:13
ricmmsil2100: sorry for the mess, today is a bad day16:14
popeysil2100: "Allerpet C"16:14
sil2100ricmm: no worries, I see silo 17 just hates you for no reason16:14
sil2100Let's see how we can hate it back16:15
sil2100popey: thanks!16:15
popeynp16:16
ricmmsil2100: I stopped a previous build before accidentally, I'm guessing some files are stale16:16
ricmmin the workspace ?16:17
ricmmlooks like its just being dump to get to a sane state16:17
sil2100Ah, ok, that might indeed be the case, CI Train cannot handle abortions when it's working in the middle somewhere16:17
sil2100Especially during package build16:17
sil2100Let me check that and clean it up then16:17
sil2100ricmm: thanks for the info :)16:17
sil2100ricmm: usually it's only safe to abort when the source packages are already pushed to the PPA16:18
davmor2sil2100, ogra_, john-mcaleely: I'm happy with the device tarball :)16:18
ogra_then land it already !!!16:18
sil2100Yeah, +1 on that16:18
sil2100john-mcaleely: ^ upload please!16:18
davmor2ogra_: I can't :P16:18
ricmmsil2100: it was literally a misclick, was trying to get to the build page16:18
john-mcaleelysil2100, ack. will do that now16:20
ricmmsil2100: please save my poor package from the depths of trainhell :)16:20
ogra_did you get under the train ?16:20
ogra_do not stand on the tracks !16:21
ogra_... and mind the gap !!!16:21
sil2100ricmm: sure, looking at it now, I actually wonder why it didn't get uploaded to the PPA even ;)16:21
john-mcaleelyogra_, sil2100 pushed16:21
sil2100john-mcaleely, davmor2: yay, thanks guys!16:21
ogra_yippie16:21
john-mcaleelyindeed, thank you davmor2 sil2100 !16:21
ogra_third OTA today ...16:21
olli_sil2100, was that me or ogra16:22
sil2100ricmm: it might take some minutes, I need to first check what exactly happened16:23
ricmmI'd say wipe the workspace :)16:23
olli_sil2100, ah, saw the ping in the other channel16:23
ogra_he usually says ogra if he means me :)16:23
sil2100olli_: hello! I'm waiting for you as well :)16:23
ogra_(only my GF calls me oli nowadays :) )16:23
olli_does she use tab expansion... that's the question ;)16:24
looltrainguards, would someone update status of line 44 as Landed? I believe the custom tarball landed (after looking at system-image json files  :-)16:26
loolI'm about to land the mako one though16:26
sil2100\o/16:27
sil2100lool: suar16:27
looldone16:28
sil2100ricmm: fixing it might be easy, just want to know why it happened, since the abort seemed to have happened in a moment that shouldn't break anything in theory16:28
ricmmsil2100: alrighty16:30
ogra_sil2100, ARGH !!!!!!!!!16:33
sil2100ogra_: ?!16:33
sil2100What now?!16:33
ogra_ogra@styx:~/Devel/branches/phablet-tools$ ./citrain device-upgrade 017 0000 ubuntu-rtm16:33
ogra_...16:33
ogra_Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/landing-015/ubuntu-rtm/ 14.09/main qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin armhf 1.1.1279.1+14.10.20141013-0ubuntu1 [353 kB]16:33
ogra_Get:2 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/landing-015/ubuntu-rtm/ 14.09/main ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme armhf 1.1.1279.1+14.10.20141013-0ubuntu1 [199 kB]16:33
ogra_...16:33
sil2100?16:34
ogra_sil2100, note the "landing-015"16:34
sil2100Ahahha16:34
ogra_i sepcified 1716:34
ogra_*specified16:34
* ogra_ curses16:34
ogra_that was my production device16:34
ricmmwhats going on today16:34
sil2100ogra_: octal my friend ;)16:34
ricmmeverything is going to hell16:34
sil2100Oh crap...16:34
ogra_and i definitely didnt mean to re-flash it before final :(16:35
* ogra_ tries to get back to a sane stae and will manually install 017 16:35
sil2100ricmm: yeah, like I can't even understand why your silo is breaking up now even, since the build you aborted - that one even without the abortion behave strangely and didn't upload the source package which it created!16:35
sil2100ogra_: I guess we need to modify the citrain tool anyway to be more sane with this, as I'm sure many people had the same problem16:36
ogra_are you sure you are not rebuilding silo 15 all the time ?16:36
ogra_:P16:36
sil2100Or worse, who knows if some people didn't test other silos instead of their own!16:36
sil2100ogra_: ;p16:36
ricmmat this point16:36
ricmmeverything is possible16:37
sil2100We're in the twighlight zone16:37
ogra_yeah, i was a bit surprised to get qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin and ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme from ricmm's silo16:37
ogra_but at least i can say the packages from silo 015 leave my device still booting :P16:37
* ogra_ rolls back these two 16:38
ogra_sil2100, ARGH ... even worse ... citrain re-enables recommends !16:40
ogra_that means people using it for testing might get weird stuff installed they shouldnt get (if the recommended package is in the same silo)16:41
ricmmsil2100: boom16:42
ricmm^ :D16:42
ogra_oh16:42
sil2100ricmm: yeah, wanted to get some debug info, but that's useless ;)16:42
ogra_and exception Exception16:42
ogra_:)16:43
* sil2100 puts on his gogles and dives in16:43
ogra_is that like double negation ?16:43
ogra_two no make a yes :)16:43
ricmmI: unmounting /var/cache/pbuilder/ccache filesyste2014-10-13 16:41:38,380 INFO Check that the newly created source package has relevant diff16:45
ricmm2014-10-13 16:41:38,640 ERROR Uncaught exception: Exception: dpkg-source command returned an error.16:45
ogra_oookay ... rebooting with 017 installed16:46
ricmmmmm16:46
ricmmCreating source with bzr bd -S -- -kB879A3E9 -d -v0.4.3+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -v0.4.3+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1 -S16:46
ricmmsil2100: that doesnt look right &16:46
ogra_still boots ... thats good for a start16:46
sergiusenssil2100: Mirv can I get a silo for line 60? in the list of bugs to be fixed by Wednesday16:46
ogra_ricmm, confirmed fixed, i see all scopes again ... nothing cut off16:47
ogra_sil2100, ^^16:48
sil2100ogra_: excellent16:48
sil2100sergiusens: sure16:48
ricmmogra_: awesome16:48
ricmmogra_: can you play with it, like mess up with source files for apps and so on16:49
ricmmand like maybe downgrade packages of address-book-app and messaging-app16:49
ricmmthrough far away versions16:49
sil2100sergiusens: just in case, can you write the bug number there as well?16:50
ricmmsil2100: fingers crossed16:50
sergiusenssil2100: it's linked in the MP as should be16:50
sergiusensbut ok16:50
sil2100Ah16:50
sil2100sergiusens: ok, the nvm! Since I know the bug number, just want it to be visible to the QA guys just-in-case16:51
ogra_ricmm, "mess up with source files" ?16:51
sil2100GEH16:51
sil2100OK, but this might give me some ideas16:51
ogra_another exception exception16:51
ogra_it is like the bot is stuttering :)16:52
sergiusenssil2100: since I put in it doesn't need QA signoff as it's a 3 line fix to be reboust agains network errors, I bet they'll look into the mp ;-)16:52
ricmmsil2100: seems to be taking a different path than usual17:02
ricmmas it usually just picks the tarball from the silo17:02
davmor2oh god no who has been giving sli2100 ideas17:02
ogra_ricmm, i cant find any issues trying out random apps etc17:03
davmor2sil2100: even17:03
ogra_ricmm, i'd say lets hand it to QA and see if they can17:03
ricmmthey wont find issues, im more interested in finding issues in upgrade paths17:03
ricmmhow can we simulate some of these17:03
ogra_we cant really without having an image17:04
ricmmI could put my phne in image 96 + my debs and do a manual update of unity8/dash which is what caused the scopes issue17:04
ricmmthats the most similar thing17:04
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ogra_right17:04
ricmmI'll do that17:04
ogra_but that doesnt really give you all the context anOTA would give you ...17:04
ogra_perhaps enough though17:04
ricmmwell the issue is about packages themselves only updating the changed files17:04
ricmmthat happens be it OTA or pure apt install17:04
ogra_right17:05
ricmmok I'll wipe this beast17:05
ricmmsil2100: lets do a full manual wipe of the workspace17:06
sil2100ricmm: wait, since it's strange - I already did a partial wipe of the workspace and it didn't help, the strangest thing is that it's actually taking the tarball from the silo, using it but then doesn't want to recognize it as needed17:07
ogra_cjwatson, does an ubuntu-touch image build lately trigger an ubuntu-coure system image build ? somehow the failure mails i get seem to always match the touch build times (might indeed be coincidence but it somehow feels like)17:08
sil2100dpkg-buildpackage: source-only, diff-only upload (original source NOT included) <- I wonder17:09
ricmmseeing something interesting here17:09
ricmmsil2100: the version prior to mine, the one we had to manually commit17:09
ricmmso the 0.8.0 version17:09
ricmmhas qtmir-gles (0.4.3+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1) 14.09; urgency=medium17:09
ricmminstead of utopic17:09
ricmmwould that hurt?17:09
sil2100hm!17:10
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ogra_not in the 14.09 archive17:10
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ricmmyea but then qtmir-gles (0.4.3+14.10.20141013-0ubuntu1) utopic; urgency=medium17:10
ricmmwhich is mine17:10
ogra_(which is what your PPA should build against for rtm)17:10
ricmmthe 07 from qtmir base is not 14.09, that one says ubuntu17:10
ricmmerr, utopic17:11
ogra_well, that shouldnt matter i think, but the different versions will surely do17:11
ricmmI'll make it 14.09 and see17:12
ricmmhitting it17:12
ogra_i guess it is rather 20141007 vs 2014101317:13
ogra_since these are different upstream versions17:13
ricmmthe ppa's version of qtmir is 2014101317:13
ogra_for both ?17:14
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sil2100ricmm: ok, let's try this... let's try changing in the M&R the qtmir-gles (0.4.3+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1) 14.09 to utopic maybe?17:15
sil2100Since in theory it all should work, but you might be right here17:15
ricmmwell I actually made the top version 14.0917:15
ricmmdidnt work17:15
ricmmmaybe I should try making them both utopic17:16
ogra_no, that wont have any impact17:16
ricmmlol17:16
sil2100Because dpkg-genchanges acts as if it was not treating the new version as differing from the previous one17:16
ogra_not at that level17:16
sil2100dpkg-genchanges will not include the source code trball in the upload in the default mode only when the upstream version number in the changelog does not differ from the previous entry17:17
ricmmso what do I do17:17
ricmmutopic it all?17:17
sil2100ricmm: yeah, change the semi-last to utopic and let's see how it goes17:17
sil2100Maybe that's some weird case here17:17
sil2100i.e. 0.4.3+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu117:18
sil2100I want to see what it'll say to that, if it will be the same bullshit from dpkg-genchanges17:18
ogra_wont the PPA barf that it already has a newer version ?17:19
sil2100ogra_: the PPA has no version right now17:19
sil2100It didn't upload anything17:19
ogra_it built 20141013 once17:19
ogra_or not ?17:19
sil2100ogra_: no, only the source package17:19
ricmmno17:19
sil2100But no upload has been made since CI Train didn't see an .orig tarball17:20
ricmmpushedededededing it17:20
sil2100So it built it but didn't upload shit17:20
sil2100;)17:20
ogra_boing17:20
sil2100Still not sure if this will help though, but anyway the cause of all troubles here is that it's not acknowleding the orig tarball17:20
sil2100(I suppose)17:20
* sil2100 spies on the stupid build job17:21
sil2100Ah, wait17:23
sil2100ricmm: one moment17:23
sil2100It failed, but let me try again in a moment17:23
ricmmD:17:24
ricmmI'm about to just push a 13.1 base qtmir17:24
ricmmand upgrade this :)17:24
ricmmhmm17:24
ogra_that was what i would have suggested next :)17:24
ricmmogra_: upgrading just unity8 did nothing17:24
ricmmto break the scopes from 96 to latest available17:24
ogra_96 should be broken as i understood17:25
ogra_(without any changes)17:26
ricmmit should always work without any changes if coming from a clean cache17:26
ricmmthe isue is when updating when you have a dirty cache from an older version17:26
ricmmand the change is extensive17:26
sil2100ricmm: ah ha!17:28
ogra_oh, roght17:28
sil2100ricmm: I think I've got it17:28
ogra_*right even17:28
sil2100CRAP17:28
ricmm:D17:28
sil2100Ok, now to think how to fix this17:28
ricmmrm -rf /17:28
cjwatsonogra_: no17:28
ogra_k, thanks17:28
sil2100AH17:29
ogra_kind of felt suspicious :)17:29
sil2100No!17:29
sil2100ricmm: eeek~!17:29
sil2100ricmm: ok, the fix is easy... change utopic to UNRELEASED in the last entry ._.17:29
sil2100ricmm: in the top-most one...17:29
cjwatsonogra_: they're just iterating a lot17:29
ogra_yeah17:30
* sil2100 feels stupid for not seeing that 17:30
sil2100ricmm: so, because the last entry was released, what CI Train did it added a NEW changelog auto-generated entry with the same version number17:30
cjwatsonricmm: for the record, the only thing that should care about 14.09 vs. utopic in the changelog header is dpkg-genchanges filling in the Distribution field in .changes, which controls where Launchpad puts it in response to a direct upload to an archive17:31
ogra_lovely17:31
cjwatson(I see that sil2100 has found the problem, but it's worth understanding the model too)17:31
sil2100ricmm: so that's where dpkg-genchanges was going crazy17:31
ricmmalrighty17:31
ricmmthanks for finding it17:31
ricmmbut lets wait for it to actually build ;)17:31
sil2100cjwatson: yeah, we though so too, just because something really crazy was happening I wanted to make sure it's not some crazy border case17:32
sil2100ricmm: 13.1 you mean? :)17:32
ricmmwoo17:33
ricmm:D17:33
sil2100Phew, what a day!17:34
ogra_yeah17:34
ogra_sil2100, hmm ... seeing your mail ...17:36
sil2100ogra_: what's up?17:37
ogra_sil2100, do we leave utopic open as general playground ? (you dont mention how we treat utpoic silos)17:37
ogra_(and i could imagine community people wanting to play with certain fixes in there for tehir app development etc )17:38
ogra_i.e. i just saw a discussion about new evolution-data-server in #ubuntu-app-devel for example17:38
sil2100I think we all need to focus on the critical bugs - we could gate some landings for utopic, but I'm afraid that we might forget about syncing them to ubuntu-rtm if those pile up, and it might start causing trouble when some critical only fixes need landing17:39
sil2100Since most upstreams land first in utopic, then we would have to forcefully pull in those non-critical changes to ubuntu-rtm as well17:39
sil2100Risking additional regression potentials17:39
ogra_k17:39
sil2100:<17:39
ogra_(i would see that in the landers responsibility to make sure the right cherry picks go in)17:40
ogra_sil2100, my fear is simply that people will take utopic silos and let them sit to shelve their non critical fixes17:41
ogra_(and that we end up without free utopic silos)17:41
sil2100ogra_: we simply won't assign those if fixes aren't critical17:41
ogra_k17:41
sil2100ogra_: since as I mentioned, most upstreams first land in utopic anyway17:41
sil2100So the gating is in overall for the whole thing17:42
ogra_popey, hmm, so ... damn ... i guess i need a critical+rtm14 bug for your seed change :(17:47
davmor2Wellark: spreadsheet line 29 as above only above is a completely different package any chance of adding some details please17:48
ogra_davmor2, there are 28 other lines above ... just pick one17:50
ogra_:)17:50
ogra_well, perhaps not 1-317:51
davmor2ogra_: I was wondering if it was all the tests for all the silos above man that would be a lot of testing ;)17:51
ogra_well, it is like a lottery17:51
ogra_just pick one ... if that doesnt pass line 29 failed :)17:52
davmor2ogra_: hahaha17:57
slangasekogra_: "not landed"?18:01
ogra_slangasek, sorry, context ?18:02
slangasekogra_: you highlighted me saying I didn't do something18:02
ogra_hmm, cant remember18:03
slangasekok, then I will probably not do it again next time either ;)18:03
ogra_slangasek, ah, found it18:04
ogra_slangasek, you rolled back a landing because i was not QAed18:04
ogra_slangasek, but apart from the changelog there was no note about that anywhere (spreadsheet said "landed")18:04
slangasekah18:04
slangasekI did not know I was expected to do that, no18:05
ogra_i'm not even sure we have any such state ... i was just mentioning that you hadnt noted it anywhere else18:05
ogra_and people were looking at the spreadsheet and wondering :)18:05
ogra_we might need such a switch somewhere18:05
ogra_as i said on the WE ... i think we sould have some planning meeting about easier and better rollback mechanisms at the sprint18:06
ogra_(for silos as well asfor images)18:06
* slangasek nods18:07
* ogra_ wonders why he doesnt get any notification for 10318:13
ogra_oh, wow18:14
ogra_because NM is totally lying at me about being on wlan18:14
davmor2ogra_: I blame that oliver bloke, bound to be his fault ;)18:17
ogra_haha18:17
ogra_yeah, i need to make sure to not put my finger on the antenna18:18
fginthercjwatson, mvo, builds for https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/click/lp1379657-user-hook/+merge/238025 are now passing18:20
cjwatsonfginther: thanks19:01
fginthercjwatson, np19:01
cjwatsonogra_,sil2100,robru,Mirv: I'm ready to start landing https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/split-custom-tarball/+merge/237905 .  Any objection if I aim to get steps 1 and 2 done for utopic tonight, while the US is mostly not trying to do anything significant?19:13
sil2100cjwatson: looking19:14
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cjwatsonThe rootfs and custom tarball from my most recent test build look largely OK; I corrected two mistakes19:18
cjwatsonThough I haven't actually tried on a device19:18
cjwatsonIf anything goes wrong we can back out livecd-rootfs straightforwardly enough and I can try harder in a PPA19:19
cjwatsonBut I've been at this most of the day and the test cycle is over an hour, so I didn't want to hang about too long19:19
cjwatsonStep 3 may not actually be a thing since at least some of the product owners just want the apps in question removed entirely19:21
cjwatsonAnd I guess the other question is would the world light up red if the ten apps in question disappeared from 14.09?  Because I understand that to be the plan19:23
cjwatsonOh, maybe we're installing some of them.  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/split-custom-tarball/+merge/237905/comments/583719 suggests we'll still be installing amazon, ebay, gmail, reminders, twitter, and facebook19:25
cjwatsonSo step 3 will be a thing to make sure those are there19:25
cjwatsonsil2100: any thoughts?19:33
rsalvetisil2100: cjwatson: quick question, do I need to change something in my dput conf in order to be able to push a package into a RTM silo?19:34
cjwatsonrsalveti: make sure you have dput from trusty-updates or utopic19:34
cjwatson(or dput-ng, whichever)19:34
cjwatsonrsalveti: then dput ppa:~OWNER/ubuntu-rtm/NAME19:34
rsalveticjwatson: oh, great, thanks!19:35
cjwatsonsorry without the ~19:35
cjwatsondput ppa:OWNER/ubuntu-rtm/NAME19:35
cjwatsonrsalveti: you'd only have to change anything in your own configuration if you'd already redefined ppa19:36
rsalvetiright, it's still the default, so it should be fine19:36
Wellarkdavmor2: I don' remember which one that was19:36
Wellarkthere use to be the utopic line above it19:36
Wellarkdavmor2: will check the changelog..19:37
Wellarkdavmor2: ok. added some info19:39
rsalveticjwatson: worked fine, thanks!19:41
jgdxWellark, first thing in the morning. Sorry for late reply.20:22
Wellarkjgdx: np20:41
sergiusensogra_: do all our packages have a FFe?21:44
rsalvetisergiusens: we have for some22:06
rsalvetiyay, wizard crashed when creating the network connection =\22:07
rsalvetiwould need to find the bug though22:07
rsalvetiargh, unity8 crashing when an alarm is triggered22:15
cjwatsonlanding livecd-rootfs 2.255 in utopic with https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/split-custom-tarball/+merge/237905; if this goes wrong the plan is to revert to 2.25423:13
sergiusenstrainguards can I get a reconfig for line 12?23:28
cjwatsonsergiusens: done23:31
sergiusensthanks23:31

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