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| willcooke | morning | 07:50 |
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| seb128 | hey willcooke, how are you? | 08:02 |
| willcooke | morning seb128 - pretty good! Got lots of slide prep to do today :/ | 08:02 |
| seb128 | good luck with that! | 08:02 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:02 |
| willcooke | thanks | 08:02 |
| Laney | yo yo yo | 08:03 |
| willcooke | 'sup Laney | 08:03 |
| willcooke | Laney, still hung over from the beer fest? | 08:03 |
| willcooke | ;) | 08:03 |
| Laney | hey | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, wie gehts? | 08:05 |
| Laney | willcooke: no hang over :P | 08:05 |
| Laney | A fair few thirds were consumed though | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hang over is when you are done being drunk | 08:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, still drunk then? ;-) | 08:06 |
| willcooke | :D | 08:06 |
| Laney | YOU GUYS ARE MY BEST FRIENDS | 08:06 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:07 |
| * willcooke hands laney a kebab | 08:08 | |
| ogra_ | why does this channel smell like a brewery this morning ? | 08:08 |
| willcooke | hahaha | 08:08 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:08 |
| * Laney starts a fight | 08:08 | |
| willcooke | lol | 08:09 |
| * seb128 goes under the table | 08:09 | |
| Laney | I remember tricking people into eating the super hot chili chocolate | 08:09 |
| Laney | good weekends everyone else? ;-) | 08:09 |
| seb128 | by not telling them there was chili in the chocolate? | 08:09 |
| seb128 | w.e was alright, we had a sunny sunday which was nice | 08:10 |
| * willcooke did this: http://www.johnogauntgolfclub.co.uk/competition.php?compid=2587 | 08:10 | |
| Laney | good skills | 08:11 |
| willcooke | certain amount of luck in there :) | 08:11 |
| seb128 | 1h40 of footing and some biking, otherwise mostly a quiet w.e here | 08:11 |
| seb128 | hehe | 08:11 |
| Laney | footing?! | 08:12 |
| seb128 | jogging | 08:12 |
| Laney | haha | 08:12 |
| seb128 | we call that footing in french :p | 08:12 |
| seb128 | well both words work here | 08:12 |
| TheMuso | Morning fellow desktoppers. :) | 08:15 |
| willcooke | heyhey TheMuso | 08:15 |
| Laney | woah | 08:15 |
| willcooke | good afternoon | 08:15 |
| willcooke | evening | 08:15 |
| Laney | what an unusual treat ;-) | 08:15 |
| Laney | hi TheMuso | 08:15 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: Try evening, yay timezone shifting. :) | 08:15 |
| TheMuso | Not usually on this late, but am currently around atm. | 08:16 |
| seb128 | sooo | 08:33 |
| seb128 | u-s-d idle fix landed | 08:33 |
| seb128 | but I had u-s-d segfaulting on me a few times during the w.e :-/ | 08:34 |
| Laney | bt? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8551106/ | 08:36 |
| seb128 | that happened during "normal" desktop use iirc | 08:37 |
| seb128 | like doing webbrowsing in an unlocked session | 08:37 |
| larsu | stop scrolling! | 08:37 |
| seb128 | yeah, seems like I should ;-) | 08:38 |
| larsu | want me to have a look? | 08:38 |
| Laney | should be darkxst | 08:39 |
| seb128 | if you want, sure | 08:39 |
| seb128 | but what Laney said | 08:39 |
| seb128 | was that the issue mentioned some days ago | 08:39 |
| seb128 | device handling in gtk/clutter, he said that looked like a bug in gtk? | 08:39 |
| larsu | ah okay. Let me know | 08:41 |
| * larsu goes back to i-messages | 08:42 | |
| seb128 | Laney, the evo stack has a point update if you fancy working on that | 08:52 |
| Laney | yeah I saw it on ftp-release-list | 08:53 |
| Laney | gtk2 too | 08:53 |
| seb128 | right | 08:55 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, that was sort of "do you want to do it, should I have a look, do you want to split?" | 08:55 |
| Laney | nah I'm doing those today | 08:57 |
| Laney | unless you want it | 08:57 |
| seb128 | not especially, no, please do those ;-) | 08:58 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:58 |
| darkxst | hi seb128 Laney larsu | 09:10 |
| seb128 | hey darkxst | 09:10 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 09:10 |
| larsu | hi darkxst | 09:10 |
| darkxst | I'm good, winter is back though! | 09:10 |
| seb128 | winter is good! | 09:11 |
| * seb128 doesn't like automn when it's windy and rainy | 09:11 | |
| darkxst | its both those here today! | 09:11 |
| hyperair | come live in eternal summer, and you'll appreciate wind and rain | 09:11 |
| Laney | this is today | 09:11 |
| Laney | http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2641170 | 09:11 |
| darkxst | hyperair, I don't like summer! | 09:11 |
| hyperair | darkxst: i know, right? now imagine living in a country that only has that. | 09:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, that weather seems about right for the u.k! | 09:13 |
| Laney | it's payback for the nice summer/early autumn | 09:13 |
| darkxst | seb128, that is not the same issue as the double free issue | 09:15 |
| seb128 | no it's not | 09:16 |
| ogra_ | hmm, evolution seems to have some theme issues again in utopic | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | (i upgraded on the weekend) | 09:32 |
| ogra_ | selected mails in the list have a blue selection ... and in the preferences the "mail options" have black background | 09:33 |
| ogra_ | oh, and the frame around the preview is dark grey | 09:34 |
| ogra_ | i cant find any open bugs about any of these | 09:34 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ some theming issues in there :-/ | 09:35 |
| larsu | ogra_: can you post a screenshot please? | 09:36 |
| ogra_ | i have played with gtk-theme-config, so the blue stuff is gone ... but i can make screenshots for the other two, yeah | 09:37 |
| larsu | gtk-theme-config? | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | larsu, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/evo1.png and http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/evo2.png | 09:39 |
| larsu | ogra_: thanks. The gray brackground in evo1.png is wanted, no? | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | larsu, for the blue ... only the "tim.gardner@" on the right side was blueish ... the folder view on the left was fine | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | dunno, its new in utopic | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | was white in trusty ... might be that it is wanted though | 09:41 |
| larsu | not sure tbh | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | heh | 09:42 |
| larsu | I remember fixing it to set the right style clas | 09:42 |
| larsu | *class | 09:42 |
| larsu | I'll look into it in any case | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | the orange is hard to read on grey though | 09:42 |
| larsu | I agree | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | (i could live with that one, but the blue and black look quite out of place) | 09:43 |
| larsu | I don't see the blue... what exactly did you do to get rid of it? | 09:43 |
| ogra_ | just run gtk-theme-config and click around in it ... | 09:44 |
| larsu | ok | 09:44 |
| larsu | thanks | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | not sure where that wrtes to or what it exactly changes, if you know, tell me and i can wipe it | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | (to show you the blue) | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | i dont seem to be able to get it back into the blue state using that tool though | 09:45 |
| larsu | I didn't know about that program until 5 minutes ago ;) | 09:45 |
| ogra_ | haha | 09:45 |
| larsu | maybe you had an local override somewhere? I can't reproduce the blue-ness here | 09:45 |
| seb128 | larsu, using o-s? | 09:46 |
| larsu | ah stop, I can! | 09:46 |
| seb128 | just asking in case :p | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | not sure, where would they live ? | 09:46 |
| larsu | seb128: :P | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | ah, god :) | 09:46 |
| larsu | seb128: (of course) | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | *good even | 09:46 |
| larsu | ugh. New evolution is doing it _very_ wrong... | 10:10 |
| larsu | looking up color variable names from the css instead of setting classes | 10:11 |
| larsu | of course, our themes don't use the same variable names as Adwaita..... | 10:11 |
| larsu | *sigh* | 10:11 |
| ogra_ | yay, consistency | 10:18 |
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| Laney | happyaron: do you think you could help with sponsoring for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkkc/+bug/1374949 ? | 12:07 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1374949 in libkkc (Ubuntu) "FFe: New upstream release for libkkc/ibus-kkc" [Undecided,New] | 12:07 |
| Laney | ibus-kkc is awaiting pkg-ime in Debian | 12:07 |
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| seb128 | I'm away for some errands, bbiab | 12:32 |
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| pitti | so this is XFCE | 14:26 |
| pitti | of course compiz starts crashing every 2 mins right when I'm on a conference :/ | 14:27 |
| larsu | hi pitti! How's plumbers? And why xfce? | 14:27 |
| pitti | larsu: it was the first thing that came to my mind wrt. "I need another WM" | 14:27 |
| pitti | and gnome-shell pulls in gdm and a lot of other stuff | 14:27 |
| Laney | how's it crashing? | 14:28 |
| pitti | I'm running into bug 1366351 | 14:28 |
| ubot5 | bug 1366351 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366351 | 14:28 |
| Laney | ah | 14:28 |
| Laney | it's the one where Trevinho was asking for people who could reproduce? | 14:28 |
| pitti | I already reset most of my dconf settings, but didn't help | 14:28 |
| pitti | it just started out of the blue yesterday; apparently related to using the internal laptop screen instead of my usual external one | 14:29 |
| pitti | but I haven't seen it (that badly at least) earlier | 14:29 |
| larsu | pitti: unity not working out for you anymore? | 14:30 |
| pitti | it crashes with that every minute or so, and it always completely shuffles my windows and workspaces, so it's way too annoying | 14:30 |
| larsu | :/ I have this as well, but not nearly as often | 14:32 |
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| tkamppeter | seb128, hi | 14:52 |
| larsu | seb128, ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/evolution-fixes/+merge/238174 | 15:05 |
| willcooke | errrrrr | 15:25 |
| willcooke | that was suboptimal | 15:25 |
| willcooke | my laptop just turned itself off and back on again for no reason and no warning | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | larsu, wow, thats a lot 1 | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | ! | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | (and thanks !!) | 15:27 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey | 15:28 |
| seb128 | willcooke, do you have a crash for unity-settings-daemon? | 15:28 |
| seb128 | larsu, danke | 15:28 |
| Laney | he's on trusty afaik, and that wouldn't make your laptop turn off | 15:29 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: so, what's the deal with CSD? gnote is looking way out of place.. | 15:29 |
| willcooke | seb128, nothing in syslog | 15:31 |
| seb128 | Laney, it makes my screen turn off for some seconds and come back on | 15:32 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, Trevinho is working on it, feel free to nag him or bregma | 15:32 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: cool, thanks | 15:32 |
| seb128 | willcooke, did you plug/unplug/close lid/...? | 15:32 |
| mdeslaur | Trevinho, bregma: nag nag, whine whine | 15:32 |
| willcooke | Laney, seb128 yeah my laptop really did turn off - back to the bios screen | 15:32 |
| Laney | and you're still on 14.04? | 15:33 |
| willcooke | Laney, yeah | 15:33 |
| willcooke | on this machine at least | 15:33 |
| willcooke | my "playing" machine is 14.10 | 15:33 |
| Laney | seb128 was suspecting a utopic bug | 15:33 |
| Laney | just making sure it isn't that | 15:33 |
| willcooke | this smells like a hardware fault to me | 15:33 |
| willcooke | because | 15:33 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, would it be a problem to let s-c-p depend on smbclient (so making smbclient part of the default installation)? To fix bug 1366756. | 15:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1366756 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "system-config-printer.py crashed with FileNotFoundError in _execute_child(): [Errno 2] Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden: 'gpk-install-package-name'" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1366756 | 15:34 |
| willcooke | a) it was sudden | 15:34 |
| willcooke | b) my computer is *just* out of warranty | 15:34 |
| Laney | I'd find the /var/log/kern.log.something corresponding to that boot and see if there's anything at the point it happened | 15:34 |
| willcooke | Laney, already checked, nothing at all | 15:35 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, that would need a ffe at least | 15:35 |
| seb128 | willcooke, could be an hardware issue... | 15:36 |
| willcooke | :'( | 15:36 |
| willcooke | I hope it was just "one of those things" | 15:36 |
| willcooke | if it does it again I will have to find my wallet | 15:37 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: can't you make it conditional? | 15:37 |
| willcooke | if the moths haven't destroyed it | 15:37 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, or is smbclient already part of the standard installation (for example to find network file shares)? | 15:37 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, what do you mean with "conditional"? | 15:38 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/utopic-desktop-amd64.manifest | 15:38 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, libsmbclient is | 15:38 |
| Trevinho | mdeslaur: support for managing windows (resizing, shadows...) is coming to unity in next landing, to get the proper theming of them we'd need some more work wich I'm doing | 15:41 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yes, I think that's the bug.. The fact is that the stacktrace doesn't say anything relevant about compiz/unity | 15:41 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, what bug are you talking about? | 15:42 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, is that known that compiz/unity segfaults when unity-settings-daemon goes down? | 15:42 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: Looks like that method is used elsewhere in s-c-p anyway | 15:42 |
| Laney | I think you need to port it | 15:42 |
| Trevinho | seb128: 1366351 | 15:42 |
| Trevinho | seb128: oh, is that related to u-s-d? | 15:42 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, well, I don't know, I just know that "stop unity-settings-daemon" or when you have it to segfault | 15:44 |
| Trevinho | mh | 15:44 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, does it happen for you? | 15:55 |
| mdeslaur | Trevinho: thanks | 15:56 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I can't kill it now, I'll do son | 16:01 |
| Trevinho | soon* | 16:01 |
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| Laney | right, see you | 17:07 |
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| seb128 | Laney, have fun! | 17:15 |
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| happyaron | Laney: yes, I asked them to file the FFe | 17:27 |
| happyaron | Laney: I'll take care of reviewing and uploading | 17:27 |
| willcooke | morning robert_ancell | 18:57 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hey, forgot about daylight savings again | 18:57 |
| willcooke | ha! | 18:57 |
| robert_ancell | but can meeting whenever you are ready | 18:58 |
| willcooke | that would be great! | 18:58 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, you need 5 mins first? | 18:58 |
| robert_ancell | nope | 18:58 |
| * willcooke joins the hangout | 18:58 | |
| robert_ancell | desrt, regarding grabs and gtk-mir - is there anything that strictly needs them? i.e. if the shell does the "correct" behaviour for menus/tooltips can we just stub them all out? | 19:28 |
| willcooke | g'night | 19:30 |
| desrt | robert_ancell: wayland lacks grabs, so .... | 20:21 |
| desrt | robert_ancell: i'm sure anything that is "needed" is going to be worked around anyway | 20:21 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, yeah, I thought so. I just wasn't sure if there was a gotcha somewhere | 20:22 |
| desrt | i don't think there will be | 20:24 |
| desrt | there is one minor issue but it won't impact us, i think: key binding selectors | 20:24 |
| desrt | ie: click here to select the new key for feature X | 20:25 |
| desrt | that will require a grab or a special protocol or something | 20:25 |
| desrt | i didn't hear anything from wayland about how they were going to deal with this yet.... | 20:25 |
| desrt | but something to keep an eye for | 20:25 |
| * desrt is on a plane, getting ready to take off -- talk to you in a few days :) | 20:25 | |
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