[02:00] <darkxst> berglh, so a pretty easy place to start would be syncing some debian packages for gnome3-staging
[02:00] <darkxst> take a look at http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/utopic314.html
[02:01] <darkxst> look for packages in the Ubuntu Column that don't have "ubuntu" in the version number
[02:02] <darkxst> in this case you can just copy the debian package
[02:02] <darkxst> grab the debian source package (pull-debian-source)
[02:03] <darkxst> add a new changelog entry "copied from Debian", add "~utopic1" to the debian version
[02:04] <darkxst> then test build (sbuild) and upload to a ppa and we can copy them
[07:00] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Is there a script to sync all syncable package to the staging PPA?
[07:00] <Noskcaj> *packages
[07:01] <darkxst> No
[07:05] <darkxst> this is actually the first time debian has been ahead of us really, so it was never needed
[07:06] <Noskcaj> I guess the upcoming release really motivate them
[07:10] <Noskcaj> Would you be able to make it or should i try?
[07:10] <Noskcaj> Since i think the script would be pretty useful
[07:11] <Noskcaj> nvm, http://jeremy.bicha.net/2011/10/09/how-to-sync-packages-from-debian-to-your-ppa/
[07:26] <darkxst> Noskcaj, https://bug728319.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=286996 should be backported to utopic and trusty (see debiain changelog)
[07:30] <darkxst> there was a lp bug for that somewhere
[07:30] <darkxst> maybe under synaptic
[07:31] <darkxst> bug 1328586
[07:32] <Noskcaj> Is it too late for this to be just uploaded as a bugfix to utopic?
[07:34] <darkxst> actually only affects utopic
[07:35] <darkxst> probably too late to update to the debian package
[07:35] <darkxst> but not too late to backport patch into current package
[07:39] <Noskcaj> I'll have a merge up soon, need dinner first. Also, is 3.14.0-1~ubuntu14.10.1~utopic1 an ok version name for the ppa or do i need to try and patch backportpackage?
[07:40] <darkxst> that is crappy for a sync
[07:41] <darkxst> I already merged at-spi2-atk for ppa, but you can backport the patch to utopic
[08:06] <Noskcaj> https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/utopic/at-spi2-atk/git-bugfix/+merge/238110
[08:59] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Can you reply to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1376452
[09:00] <Noskcaj> Laney acked it for the release team, just checking for docs team stuff
[09:54] <ricotz> darkxst, :\, please dont pocket copy things from utopic to trusty!
[09:54] <ricotz> do proper rebuilds with a new suffix
[09:55] <ricotz> this is really bad
[10:08] <ricotz> besides that we didnt agree on adding 3.14 bits to trusty
[10:09] <darkxst> ricotz, hmm right, that was silly
[10:09] <darkxst> though its only a few games that are 3.14
[10:14] <darkxst> and they all work fine with gtk 3.12
[10:17] <ricotz> dont get sloppy and preserve a sane upgrade path
[10:18] <ricotz> 3.14.1 might be a chance to fix those ~utopicX in trusty
[10:18] <ricotz> but of course there are conflicts now
[10:19] <darkxst> what If i bump the versions in gnome3, that should avoid conflicts?
[10:20] <ricotz> you need to bump the utopic builds
[10:20] <darkxst> yes that is what I meant
[10:21] <ricotz> i am keeping the trusty and utopic pockets added to my sources.list which should result in a consistent pool
[10:21] <ricotz> the most offending package is "gnome-color-manager - 3.12.2-1ubuntu1~utopic1"
[10:23] <ricotz> darkxst, some games are written in vala right?
[10:24] <ricotz> so they also benefit and might even require vala 0.26 which isnt intended to be available to trusty
[10:33] <darkxst> most are c, though a few might be vala
[10:43] <ricotz> ok
[13:10] <LinDol> hi all
[14:27] <Vault108> hello is any one here and able to help me
[19:46] <Noskcaj> darkxst, If something is in the gnome3 ppa, should an identical version be in gnome3-staging?
[20:00] <Noskcaj> Also, i've got a few more packages ready in my copy PPAs
[20:41] <darkxst> Noskcaj, no, gnome3 is a dependency for -staging
[20:42] <Noskcaj> ok, i'll just leave robots 3.14.1 in gnome3 then
[20:42] <Noskcaj> One other thing, do we want gnome-software or is the offline install bug too much?
[20:43] <darkxst> but 3.14 -staging packages should be based of gnome3 merges where they exist (probably keeping the 3.12 changelog entry)
[20:44] <darkxst> we do want gnome-software, offline updates can just be disabled
[20:44] <darkxst> however it requires a few other bits like packagekit, appstream-glib
[20:46] <darkxst> Noskcaj, can you delete the packages that are already copied
[20:46] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:50] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I synced cantarell to ubuntu (yesterday)
[20:50] <Noskcaj> ok, i missed that. sorry
[22:13] <darkxst> Noskcaj, probably best to keep the autoreconf in gnome-dictionary