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Spydar007 | There's a program I want to use that only works on Debian, but my server has Ubuntu (and no, I can't just change it to Debian), someone told me you can run a Debian Virtual Environment through Ubuntu, how do I do this? | 05:36 |
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lordievader | Good morning. | 06:43 |
lordievader | micah: I understand that. Just thought it would be nice to know in case you didm't/ | 06:43 |
lordievader | didn't* | 06:43 |
Sachiru | Ubuntu is reskinned debian with a few custom libraries. | 06:44 |
Sachiru | If it works in debian it will surely work in ubuntu, assuming the necessary dependencies are in place. | 06:45 |
lordievader | Sachiru: That is a bit crude and not allways true. | 06:51 |
Aporie_ | Hello, what the right way to restart "notworking service" in 14.04 LTS ?? Can't do anything with "sudo service stop" and "/etc/init.d/netw... stop". Anyone have an idea ? | 06:52 |
Sachiru | Not working service, or networking service? | 06:53 |
Sachiru | @lordievader: My apologies, then. But the fact is that it it works in debian it will almost always work in Ubuntu | 06:53 |
Sachiru | Granted that the necessary dependencies are in place. | 06:53 |
lordievader | In most cases that is true ;) | 06:54 |
Sachiru | Aporie_, do you want to restart a service that is not working, or do you want to restart the networking service? | 06:55 |
lordievader | Aporie_: Does 'sudo service networking stop/restart' not work??? | 06:56 |
sarnold | Aporie_: do NOT run "service networking restart", that either makes the machine nearly unusable or it doesn't do anything at all, depending upon the version you've got. | 06:57 |
lordievader | Hmm, yes perhaps it ain't a good idea... | 06:58 |
sarnold | Aporie_: use ifup and ifdown on individual interfaces or use the -a command line option | 06:58 |
lordievader | Apologies. | 06:58 |
Sachiru | Also if you do use ifup and ifdown, use && to wrap them in the same command line, especially if you are ifdown-ing a system without IPMI while you are SSHed into it | 06:59 |
Aporie_ | sarnold, yeah I've useder "service netwsorking restart" and it didn't work | 06:59 |
Aporie_ | sarnold, using ifdown and ifup works well ! | 06:59 |
Aporie_ | thanks | 06:59 |
Sachiru | Perhaps you need to spell better? | 06:59 |
sarnold | Sachiru: hah, yes, good advice. | 06:59 |
sarnold | Aporie_: if it just didn't work, you got lucky :) hehe | 07:00 |
sarnold | Sachiru: lol | 07:00 |
Sachiru | sarnold, Burned several times with ifdown-ing an interface while connected via ssh to it without adding the && ifup | 07:00 |
Aporie_ | sarnold, ok so I guess I'm | 07:00 |
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Aporie_ | sarnold, one more question, do you know if wifi is abled on boot by default ? | 07:50 |
lordievader | Aporie_: You can have the interface up on boot (if configured), letting it connect to a network on boot is tricky. | 07:52 |
Aporie_ | lordievader, I've just configured a working wifi network. But It spend a lot of time to connect to it. I would like to reduce the time getting access to the network ... | 07:55 |
nokut | Hello everybody | 07:56 |
lordievader | Aporie_: There are guides online, but like I said, it's tricky. | 08:00 |
|\n | excuse me, guys, i wonder if this is a solid reason... i see "gzip: stdout: No space left on device " while updating /boot related packages, my vps provider made it this way: "/dev/vda1 96M 77M 14M 85% /boot " | 09:32 |
|\n | so am i correct reporting this as an issue to ticket system, since i havn't touch anything on special purposes? | 09:35 |
* maxb does not think "I have filled up my partition" is a bug. | 09:36 | |
rbasak | |\n: http://askubuntu.com/q/2793/7808 | 09:36 |
|\n | maxb, indeed, but it's not me who made it this tiny =) | 09:39 |
|\n | thank you, rbasak | 09:40 |
|\n | however, there is only 1 previous version | 09:40 |
lordievader | |\n: This is an issue with your hoster, not with Ubuntu. | 09:42 |
|\n | lordievader, that is exactly what i meant, sorry for not pointing that out clearly | 09:43 |
lordievader | |\n: Okay, then we are on the same page ;) | 09:43 |
maxb | It is a bit on the small side, but seems like it should fit two kernels, which is enough | 09:44 |
|\n | it's just 14mb free so i was in doubt still | 09:44 |
lordievader | Ubuntu's initramfss | 09:44 |
lordievader | are large... | 09:45 |
|\n | yeah, maxb, but appears not, because since linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic* linux-image-extra-3.13.0-35-generic* were removed, `dpkg --onfigure -a` fixed it all | 09:45 |
Aporie_ | lordievader, still on the configuration of wifi. I don't know why it's not working whereas, in dmesg, seems to be started at boot : http://pastebin.com/291s3Y0j | 10:02 |
Aporie_ | any idea ? | 10:02 |
Aporie_ | Is the troubleshoot comming from dhclient ? | 10:04 |
nokut | what is the best method of taking a backup of wiki server (ubuntu 12.04)? | 10:12 |
nokut | we want to take (preferably) dynamic backups of the server until somebody else can take the responsibility of maintenance | 10:15 |
|\n | some cron for db backups maybe and some duplicity maybe, nokut? | 10:17 |
nokut | ok, thanks |\n | 10:23 |
nokut | can you use external usb drive in combination with anyone of those tools_ | 10:24 |
|\n | nokut, i never had such a need, in terms of backing up to usb, but it is totally possible, especially taking in view udev rules: "the certain usb plugged - backup started", ideally | 10:30 |
|\n | scp/sftp/nfs/smb/ftp or piping via sockets sorcery lol, why usb | 10:31 |
lordievader | Aporie_: How have you configured the device? | 10:39 |
lordievader | Heh you do get connected, that is more than I've achieved ;) | 10:41 |
nokut | sorry it took long; usb is handy - we have some disks with enough capacity laying around unused | 10:46 |
Aporie_ | lordievader, yeah, but the I can't understand the troubleshoot. It's like the wifi is associated but have no access to internet | 10:53 |
Aporie_ | ping google.fr | 10:53 |
|\n | if you have a real goal of providing backup services for your infrastructure i would subjectively advice to gather those hdds "under one roof" via buying a 1 single box with jbod or even build a raid5, not that expensive, but a real investment if compared | 10:53 |
Aporie_ | bug .. sorry | 10:53 |
lordievader | Aporie_: That you are connected does not mean you have an ip ;), what's in /etc/network/interfaces? | 10:55 |
Aporie_ | wait have to put ethernet link to connect by ssh | 10:55 |
Aporie | lordievader http://pastebin.com/6yFdh778 | 11:00 |
lordievader | Aporie: Hmm did it get that ip? | 11:01 |
Aporie | the strange thing is that I plug ethernet link, I have the .25 ip active | 11:01 |
Aporie | http://pastebin.com/PGXnqVbU | 11:02 |
Aporie | when I plug* | 11:03 |
lordievader | Aporie: Can you ping your gateway through the wlan0 device? | 11:03 |
Aporie | have to try this | 11:03 |
RoyK | Aporie: your routing table will be a bit funny with that setup | 11:04 |
Aporie | yeah I can | 11:04 |
RoyK | Aporie: since the cabled and the wireless are connected to the same network and you've given two default gateways | 11:04 |
Aporie | RoyK, How have I to configure the /etc/network/interfaces then ? | 11:05 |
RoyK | Aporie: what are you trying to do here? please explain | 11:05 |
Aporie | I'm trying to get wifi connexion active on my server on boot | 11:06 |
Aporie | without ehternet cable plugged in | 11:06 |
RoyK | Aporie: why do you want two different connections to the same IP network? | 11:06 |
lordievader | Aporie: Will it be the default interface? | 11:07 |
Aporie | yeah it will be | 11:07 |
RoyK | the 'default interface' will be the one with the default gateway | 11:07 |
Aporie | But I want the two working | 11:07 |
lordievader | Aporie: Wifi on a server... imo not a good idea. | 11:07 |
RoyK | try 'netstat -rn' | 11:07 |
RoyK | lordievader: depends what you're doing - for a home server, it could be fine | 11:07 |
nokut | |\n - Thanks, but we need this is only as a temporary solution | 11:07 |
lordievader | Give the wlan0 device the default gateway and comment it for the eth0 device. | 11:08 |
Aporie | Yeah it's a home personnal server | 11:08 |
* RoyK has also been using wifi for home servers | 11:08 | |
lordievader | I suppose but if you have the option of going with cable, why not... | 11:08 |
|\n | nokut, here is a saying: "there is no anything more stable, than something temporary" =) | 11:08 |
RoyK | lordievader: might be a bit messy with lots of cables around | 11:08 |
RoyK | Aporie: can you try to disable eth0? that should probably do it | 11:09 |
RoyK | erm - p2p1 | 11:09 |
RoyK | just comment out "auto p2p1" | 11:09 |
RoyK | and restart the networking (or give it a reboot, for good measure) | 11:09 |
Aporie | I've change the order of the connexion appearing in /network/interface | 11:12 |
Aporie | and put the gateway to the first one (wifi connexion) | 11:12 |
RoyK | Aporie: remove "default gateway" on the p2p1 | 11:12 |
RoyK | the order doesn't matter | 11:12 |
RoyK | the config does | 11:12 |
Aporie | HEHE ! Seems to be working !! | 11:12 |
Aporie | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.25 port 22: No route to host .... hmm | 11:14 |
lordievader | Can you ping the host? | 11:15 |
|\n | i bet that routing is broken, since it says there is none D: | 11:16 |
Aporie | iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: No association and the time event is over already... | 11:16 |
Aporie | in dmesg | 11:16 |
lordievader | There you go ;) | 11:16 |
Aporie | lordievader, I can't ping the host, but it tied to do it from .24 ip (which is the ethernet ip) and not from the .25 ip (which is the wifi one) | 11:19 |
lordievader | Aporie: Well you are not associated with a network, ofcourse you cannot ping the host ;) | 11:20 |
RoyK | Aporie: pastebin netstat -rn | 11:21 |
Aporie | http://pastebin.com/CwtPr2H1 | 11:23 |
RoyK | looks good to me | 11:23 |
RoyK | can you ping 192.168.0.1 ? | 11:23 |
Aporie | and the new netwok/interfaces file : http://pastebin.com/2KeAFMVy | 11:23 |
RoyK | and output of 'ifconfig' ? | 11:24 |
Aporie | RoyK no I can't | 11:24 |
Aporie | http://pastebin.com/1pKnabt1 | 11:24 |
Aporie | why, in the result of netstat the destination is 192.168.0.0 ? | 11:25 |
RoyK | hm... try to 'ifdown p2p1' and try again. also, pastebin 'ethtool wlan0' and 'iwconfig wlan0' | 11:25 |
lordievader | Is your wifi associated with your network? | 11:25 |
Aporie | lordievader, Yeah I think | 11:26 |
lordievader | Aporie: You think... please check it, iwconfig | 11:26 |
Aporie | iwconfig shows result | 11:26 |
RoyK | lordievader: config looks right for what he's pastebinned so far | 11:27 |
RoyK | Aporie: did you try to ifdown p2p1? | 11:28 |
Aporie | RoyK yeah just did it | 11:28 |
lordievader | 13-13:16 < Aporie> iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: No association and the time event is over already... | 11:28 |
lordievader | Hence I'm asking. | 11:28 |
Aporie | And I still have internet access | 11:28 |
Aporie | with wifi connexion... I can't understand anything | 11:29 |
Aporie | installing ethool | 11:30 |
Aporie | there is no ethool packages | 11:31 |
Aporie | So for now, I'm connected to network with the wifi | 11:33 |
lordievader | Aporie: It's ethtool ;) | 11:33 |
Aporie | problem is the wifi get working when plugging ethernet cable ... | 11:33 |
lordievader | Aporie: Nah, I think it then reroutes it over the cable. | 11:33 |
Aporie | ok thanks lordievader | 11:34 |
Aporie | cable is not linked in for now, and I'm connecting by ssh to the server | 11:34 |
Aporie | Link detected: yes result from ethtool | 11:35 |
Aporie | and that WON is not active | 11:35 |
Aporie | http://pastebin.com/9rjcbQni | 11:36 |
lordievader | Hmm, that looks correct. | 11:36 |
Aporie | SO everything seems correct, but the wifi connexion get active when plugging the ehernet cable | 11:37 |
Aporie | is the problem could come from bios settings ? | 11:38 |
Aporie | but it's stupid the make the wifi active just when ethernet cable is plugged in | 11:39 |
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Aporie | to make* | 11:39 |
lordievader | Aporie: Is the output of iwconfig the same when the ethernet cable is disconnected? | 11:39 |
Aporie | yes | 11:40 |
lordievader | Hmm, most interesting... | 11:40 |
Aporie | association is working but not getting ip address without ethernet cable | 11:40 |
lordievader | Aporie: Does it work when you use dhcp? | 11:42 |
Aporie | Is the problem could come from a too weak bitrate ?? | 11:42 |
Aporie | Bit Rate=144.4 Mb/s fro now | 11:42 |
Aporie | but if I remember fine, it was like 50Mb /s before plugging ethernet cable | 11:43 |
lordievader | As long as it doesn't drop to 1/2 Mbps, it should be fine. | 11:44 |
Aporie | Haaaa !!! | 11:44 |
Aporie | I've putted a mac filtering on my box | 11:44 |
Aporie | to the ethernet card | 11:44 |
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rbasak | jpds: any news on strongswan please? Final freeze is this week. | 11:48 |
Aporie | I deleted the mac filter address from my box ... it's not working too | 11:50 |
Aporie | I despair | 11:51 |
Aporie | It doesn't work with dhcp too | 11:56 |
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RoyK | queorgullo is a spambot - any ops here? | 12:18 |
|\n | ^ i confirm the above | 12:20 |
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Aporie | lordievader, RoyKI, Ok it finally works ! This is the /etc/network/interfaces file which allowed the wifi to work : http://pastebin.com/4TF6j30V | 12:39 |
Aporie | The fact is, when booting the server, during plymouth, I have a message like it can't find a proper network configuration ... Asking to wait 60 sec to configure network... After that, all is working ! | 12:40 |
Aporie | And nothing bad in dmesg | 12:41 |
Aporie | Don't care. The good point is that the server is working with wifi now, and it's good for my small appartment :) | 12:41 |
Aporie | Thanks you to you guys : lordievader, RoyK | 12:41 |
lordievader | Aporie: How is that last one different from earlier? | 12:42 |
Aporie | lordievader : haha ... I don't know. I've just remove the lines for the ethernet config | 12:44 |
Aporie | have to eat now ... working on that fu**** problem since this morning | 12:44 |
RoyK | Aporie: goodie | 12:57 |
jamespage | apw, smb - how's you IPv6?v | 13:22 |
jamespage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1380614 | 13:22 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1380614 in linux "IPv6 address marked as 'mngtmpaddr' under utopic" [Undecided,New] | 13:22 |
smb | jamespage, ignored mostly on my side | 13:23 |
jamespage | :-( | 13:23 |
smb | jamespage, apw is a bit better there | 13:23 |
smb | just distracted right now | 13:23 |
jamespage | I suspect stgraber might be good for that as well | 13:24 |
smb | jamespage, we can ask him later. he currently is at the (other) conference but we will see him sooner or later | 13:25 |
jamespage | ack | 13:25 |
apw | jamespage, what is the problem with this mngtmpaddr ? | 13:38 |
jamespage | apw, I was not expecting it to be marked as such as I don't think it is a mngtmpaddr | 13:39 |
jamespage | its diff behaviour to 14.04 | 13:39 |
apw | 3.13 doesn't have that flag | 13:39 |
jamespage | apw, so when do interfaces get that flag? | 13:39 |
apw | jamespage, it is something userspace requests, iproute2 for instance | 13:41 |
apw | commit 53bd674915379d91e0e505332c89741b34eab05c | 13:41 |
apw | Author: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> | 13:41 |
apw | Date: Fri Dec 6 09:45:22 2013 +0100 | 13:41 |
apw | ipv6 addrconf: introduce IFA_F_MANAGETEMPADDR to tell kernel to manage temporary addresses | 13:41 |
jamespage | apw, hmm | 13:41 |
apw | network manager is given as an example allowing it to request privacy addresses be used | 13:41 |
killall | Any way i can recover a root password of a machine? Im in recovery mode and when i type root it asks for root password for maintenance or Ctrl+d to continue. :/ 12.04 | 13:43 |
lordievader | killall: Root shouldn't have a password on Ubuntu. | 13:46 |
killall | ctrl + d to continue or give root password for maintenance | 13:47 |
killall | queorgullo: is spamming me. | 13:47 |
killall | lordievader: it asks for a password | 13:48 |
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lordievader | killall: Ubuntu's policy is to keep the root account deactivated. But anyhow do you have access to the filesystem? | 14:14 |
killall | lordievader: rw init=/bin/bash in grub fixed :D | 14:15 |
lordievader | Hmm, I suppose that'll work too. | 14:16 |
killall | lordievader: yeap worked | 14:20 |
|\n | killall, i admire with your nick | 14:29 |
killall | ;) | 14:29 |
fiyawerx | hey guys - i have a fairly plain ubuntu server set up in a vm, but some apps have been filling my / (via /tmp) so I watned to add a second drive to use just for /tmp, is there a "proper" way to add it via lvm or can I just format it and add it to fstab? Is there something I need to watch out for? | 14:29 |
killall | |\n: your nick i s way cooler :D | 14:30 |
fiyawerx | I added the drive, so I see it on the server (/dev/sdb) - just not sure how to proceed | 14:30 |
lordievader | fiyawerx: Instead of adding a drive isn't it better to address the issue? | 14:31 |
fiyawerx | lordievader: it's Plex - with a few streams transcoding at the same time a total of 8Gb on the filesystem isn't enough | 14:32 |
lordievader | Hmm, I see. | 14:33 |
fiyawerx | I guess I could give the drive specifically to plex and let the regular system stuff use /tmp normally, still | 14:33 |
fiyawerx | actually, i think i like that better | 14:33 |
lordievader | fiyawerx: So you want to enlarge your volume group and add an lv for /tmp? | 14:33 |
fiyawerx | so I guess I can really mount it anywhere, not /tmp | 14:33 |
fiyawerx | lordievader: if it's going to be a full "disk" is there a benefit to doing it that way as opposed to a direct format/mount? | 14:34 |
lordievader | fiyawerx: The way you describe it you need to create a new vg and add the secondary hdd as a pv to it. | 14:34 |
lordievader | fiyawerx: Well the bonus of lvm is that it is more flexible, if say you add a drive of 20 Gb and it turns out only 10 Gb is used, the other 10Gb is not wasted but can be allocated elsewhere. | 14:35 |
fiyawerx | or - the converse, if I'm adding a 16GB drive now as say /plextmp, I could expand that if it turns out it's not enoughs pace? | 14:36 |
lordievader | fiyawerx: Jup, just add another pv. | 14:36 |
fiyawerx | perfect, thank you | 14:36 |
fiyawerx | never had to play with the lvm stuff manually after the initial setup, gonna look it up now adding a new drive | 14:37 |
lordievader | fiyawerx: It's good to have some understanding of it before you start messing with it on a production machine. | 14:37 |
fiyawerx | yeah, this is running in an esxi host too, so its "production" but mainly my kids are the primary users heh. I took a snapshot to be safe. | 14:38 |
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FlorianSW | Hello together! I have a little problem with the startup of my ubuntu server 14.04, hope someone can give me advise :) It seems, that services starting with an upstart script works perfectly, but services with an init.d script doesn't start at ubuntu boot (rc.local isn't executed, too) :/ (tracked down to this in order of http://askubuntu.com/questions/536152/sysvinit-services-not-starting-on-boot-upstart-services-starting ) | 15:20 |
FlorianSW | Does someone has an idea why? | 15:21 |
fiyawerx | lordievader: thanks, I think I got it working now, got a new 16GB lv mounted as /plextmp | 15:51 |
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lordievader | fiyawerx: No problem ;) | 16:05 |
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FlorianSW | Hello together! I have a little problem with the startup of my ubuntu server 14.04, hope someone can give me advise :) It seems, that services starting with an upstart script works perfectly, but services with an init.d script doesn't start at ubuntu boot (rc.local isn't executed, too) :/ (tracked down to this in order of http://askubuntu.com/questions/536152/sysvinit-services-not-starting-on-boot-upstart-services-starting ) | 16:13 |
rbasak | FlorianSW: check /etc/init/rc.conf. This is the upstart job responsible for running Sys V init scripts. | 16:14 |
FlorianSW | rbasak: ah, ok, will check, thanks :) | 16:15 |
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FlorianSW | rbasak: ping, around? | 16:48 |
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dcmwai | Hello all | 17:08 |
dcmwai | would like to ask about maas | 17:08 |
dcmwai | am I on the right channel? or there are another #ubuntu-clouds :) | 17:09 |
dcmwai | What is MAAS and any info on that | 17:09 |
sarnold | dcmwai: there is also a #maas | 17:09 |
dcmwai | I only see installation | 17:09 |
dcmwai | but don't see what is the use | 17:09 |
dcmwai | sarnold, just to check.. | 17:11 |
dcmwai | If I already runing vm.. | 17:11 |
dcmwai | I shouldn't be running maas right :) | 17:11 |
* dcmwai is confused... | 17:11 | |
sarnold | dcmwai: it might not be worth the hassle if you've only got a few VMs | 17:11 |
dcmwai | ok I'm on this.. | 17:11 |
dcmwai | http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/about.html | 17:11 |
dcmwai | sarnold, I see ok | 17:11 |
sarnold | dcmwai: if you've got a few real computers, it might be more useful; if you have racks upon racks of them, it might be the thing that saves your sanity :) | 17:12 |
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FlorianSW | i'm now at the point (again) where I do not know what to do: It seems, that /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf successfully executes /etc/init.d/rcS which executes /etc/init.d/rc S (in init.d/rc i have inserted a new line to log the runlevel (S is logged) | 17:19 |
FlorianSW | After this /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf executes telinit "${DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL}" (DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL is 2, tracked with logger), which should trigger /etc/init.d/rc to run, right? But i haven't a new log line and no runlevel 2 logged :( | 17:19 |
RoyK | dcmwai: for just a few VMs, just run KVM/libvirt | 17:19 |
dcmwai | RoyK, ok thank you :) | 17:20 |
Phibs | anyone using apt-mirror, or is there a better alternative ? | 17:53 |
qman__ | Phibs: I use a squid proxy for apt | 18:06 |
tgm4883 | Phibs: it depends on what you are trying to accomplish | 18:40 |
tgm4883 | is it for a few machines, or a lot | 18:40 |
tgm4883 | Phibs: actually, looking at it now I guess I am using ubumirror | 18:42 |
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med_ | zul, will the release Juno go into proposed on Friday? | 19:39 |
med_ | UCA trusty -proposed? | 19:39 |
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adam_g | jamespage, may want to keep https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1279000 on your radar. just hit it trying to upgrade a long lived glance db to the recent juno packages and had to do some manual db work to get around it | 20:16 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1279000 in oslo-incubator "db migrate script to set charset=utf8 for all tables" [High,Fix released] | 20:16 |
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mgw | is it ok to post a link to a job opening here? | 21:18 |
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zackify | dang nobody talks in here | 23:07 |
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