=== Guest68239 is now known as esde === FreezingAlt is now known as FreezingCold [05:36] There's a program I want to use that only works on Debian, but my server has Ubuntu (and no, I can't just change it to Debian), someone told me you can run a Debian Virtual Environment through Ubuntu, how do I do this? === nath|off is now known as nathema === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 [06:43] Good morning. [06:43] micah: I understand that. Just thought it would be nice to know in case you didm't/ [06:43] didn't* [06:44] Ubuntu is reskinned debian with a few custom libraries. [06:45] If it works in debian it will surely work in ubuntu, assuming the necessary dependencies are in place. [06:51] Sachiru: That is a bit crude and not allways true. [06:52] Hello, what the right way to restart "notworking service" in 14.04 LTS ?? Can't do anything with "sudo service stop" and "/etc/init.d/netw... stop". Anyone have an idea ? [06:53] Not working service, or networking service? [06:53] @lordievader: My apologies, then. But the fact is that it it works in debian it will almost always work in Ubuntu [06:53] Granted that the necessary dependencies are in place. [06:54] In most cases that is true ;) [06:55] Aporie_, do you want to restart a service that is not working, or do you want to restart the networking service? [06:56] Aporie_: Does 'sudo service networking stop/restart' not work??? [06:57] Aporie_: do NOT run "service networking restart", that either makes the machine nearly unusable or it doesn't do anything at all, depending upon the version you've got. [06:58] Hmm, yes perhaps it ain't a good idea... [06:58] Aporie_: use ifup and ifdown on individual interfaces or use the -a command line option [06:58] Apologies. [06:59] Also if you do use ifup and ifdown, use && to wrap them in the same command line, especially if you are ifdown-ing a system without IPMI while you are SSHed into it [06:59] sarnold, yeah I've useder "service netwsorking restart" and it didn't work [06:59] sarnold, using ifdown and ifup works well ! [06:59] thanks [06:59] Perhaps you need to spell better? [06:59] Sachiru: hah, yes, good advice. [07:00] Aporie_: if it just didn't work, you got lucky :) hehe [07:00] Sachiru: lol [07:00] sarnold, Burned several times with ifdown-ing an interface while connected via ssh to it without adding the && ifup [07:00] sarnold, ok so I guess I'm === Sachiru is now known as Guest68868 === Sachiru_ is now known as Sachiru [07:50] sarnold, one more question, do you know if wifi is abled on boot by default ? [07:52] Aporie_: You can have the interface up on boot (if configured), letting it connect to a network on boot is tricky. [07:55] lordievader, I've just configured a working wifi network. But It spend a lot of time to connect to it. I would like to reduce the time getting access to the network ... [07:56] Hello everybody [08:00] Aporie_: There are guides online, but like I said, it's tricky. [09:32] <|\n> excuse me, guys, i wonder if this is a solid reason... i see "gzip: stdout: No space left on device " while updating /boot related packages, my vps provider made it this way: "/dev/vda1 96M 77M 14M 85% /boot " [09:35] <|\n> so am i correct reporting this as an issue to ticket system, since i havn't touch anything on special purposes? [09:36] * maxb does not think "I have filled up my partition" is a bug. [09:36] |\n: http://askubuntu.com/q/2793/7808 [09:39] <|\n> maxb, indeed, but it's not me who made it this tiny =) [09:40] <|\n> thank you, rbasak [09:40] <|\n> however, there is only 1 previous version [09:42] |\n: This is an issue with your hoster, not with Ubuntu. [09:43] <|\n> lordievader, that is exactly what i meant, sorry for not pointing that out clearly [09:43] |\n: Okay, then we are on the same page ;) [09:44] It is a bit on the small side, but seems like it should fit two kernels, which is enough [09:44] <|\n> it's just 14mb free so i was in doubt still [09:44] Ubuntu's initramfss [09:45] are large... [09:45] <|\n> yeah, maxb, but appears not, because since linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic* linux-image-extra-3.13.0-35-generic* were removed, `dpkg --onfigure -a` fixed it all [10:02] lordievader, still on the configuration of wifi. I don't know why it's not working whereas, in dmesg, seems to be started at boot : http://pastebin.com/291s3Y0j [10:02] any idea ? [10:04] Is the troubleshoot comming from dhclient ? [10:12] what is the best method of taking a backup of wiki server (ubuntu 12.04)? [10:15] we want to take (preferably) dynamic backups of the server until somebody else can take the responsibility of maintenance [10:17] <|\n> some cron for db backups maybe and some duplicity maybe, nokut? [10:23] ok, thanks |\n [10:24] can you use external usb drive in combination with anyone of those tools_ [10:30] <|\n> nokut, i never had such a need, in terms of backing up to usb, but it is totally possible, especially taking in view udev rules: "the certain usb plugged - backup started", ideally [10:31] <|\n> scp/sftp/nfs/smb/ftp or piping via sockets sorcery lol, why usb [10:39] Aporie_: How have you configured the device? [10:41] Heh you do get connected, that is more than I've achieved ;) [10:46] sorry it took long; usb is handy - we have some disks with enough capacity laying around unused [10:53] lordievader, yeah, but the I can't understand the troubleshoot. It's like the wifi is associated but have no access to internet [10:53] ping google.fr [10:53] <|\n> if you have a real goal of providing backup services for your infrastructure i would subjectively advice to gather those hdds "under one roof" via buying a 1 single box with jbod or even build a raid5, not that expensive, but a real investment if compared [10:53] bug .. sorry [10:55] Aporie_: That you are connected does not mean you have an ip ;), what's in /etc/network/interfaces? [10:55] wait have to put ethernet link to connect by ssh [11:00] lordievader http://pastebin.com/6yFdh778 [11:01] Aporie: Hmm did it get that ip? [11:01] the strange thing is that I plug ethernet link, I have the .25 ip active [11:02] http://pastebin.com/PGXnqVbU [11:03] when I plug* [11:03] Aporie: Can you ping your gateway through the wlan0 device? [11:03] have to try this [11:04] Aporie: your routing table will be a bit funny with that setup [11:04] yeah I can [11:04] Aporie: since the cabled and the wireless are connected to the same network and you've given two default gateways [11:05] RoyK, How have I to configure the /etc/network/interfaces then ? [11:05] Aporie: what are you trying to do here? please explain [11:06] I'm trying to get wifi connexion active on my server on boot [11:06] without ehternet cable plugged in [11:06] Aporie: why do you want two different connections to the same IP network? [11:07] Aporie: Will it be the default interface? [11:07] yeah it will be [11:07] the 'default interface' will be the one with the default gateway [11:07] But I want the two working [11:07] Aporie: Wifi on a server... imo not a good idea. [11:07] try 'netstat -rn' [11:07] lordievader: depends what you're doing - for a home server, it could be fine [11:07] |\n - Thanks, but we need this is only as a temporary solution [11:08] Give the wlan0 device the default gateway and comment it for the eth0 device. [11:08] Yeah it's a home personnal server [11:08] * RoyK has also been using wifi for home servers [11:08] I suppose but if you have the option of going with cable, why not... [11:08] <|\n> nokut, here is a saying: "there is no anything more stable, than something temporary" =) [11:08] lordievader: might be a bit messy with lots of cables around [11:09] Aporie: can you try to disable eth0? that should probably do it [11:09] erm - p2p1 [11:09] just comment out "auto p2p1" [11:09] and restart the networking (or give it a reboot, for good measure) [11:12] I've change the order of the connexion appearing in /network/interface [11:12] and put the gateway to the first one (wifi connexion) [11:12] Aporie: remove "default gateway" on the p2p1 [11:12] the order doesn't matter [11:12] the config does [11:12] HEHE ! Seems to be working !! [11:14] ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.25 port 22: No route to host .... hmm [11:15] Can you ping the host? [11:16] <|\n> i bet that routing is broken, since it says there is none D: [11:16] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: No association and the time event is over already... [11:16] in dmesg [11:16] There you go ;) [11:19] lordievader, I can't ping the host, but it tied to do it from .24 ip (which is the ethernet ip) and not from the .25 ip (which is the wifi one) [11:20] Aporie: Well you are not associated with a network, ofcourse you cannot ping the host ;) [11:21] Aporie: pastebin netstat -rn [11:23] http://pastebin.com/CwtPr2H1 [11:23] looks good to me [11:23] can you ping 192.168.0.1 ? [11:23] and the new netwok/interfaces file : http://pastebin.com/2KeAFMVy [11:24] and output of 'ifconfig' ? [11:24] RoyK no I can't [11:24] http://pastebin.com/1pKnabt1 [11:25] why, in the result of netstat the destination is 192.168.0.0 ? [11:25] hm... try to 'ifdown p2p1' and try again. also, pastebin 'ethtool wlan0' and 'iwconfig wlan0' [11:25] Is your wifi associated with your network? [11:26] lordievader, Yeah I think [11:26] Aporie: You think... please check it, iwconfig [11:26] iwconfig shows result [11:27] lordievader: config looks right for what he's pastebinned so far [11:28] Aporie: did you try to ifdown p2p1? [11:28] RoyK yeah just did it [11:28] 13-13:16 < Aporie> iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: No association and the time event is over already... [11:28] Hence I'm asking. [11:28] And I still have internet access [11:29] with wifi connexion... I can't understand anything [11:30] installing ethool [11:31] there is no ethool packages [11:33] So for now, I'm connected to network with the wifi [11:33] Aporie: It's ethtool ;) [11:33] problem is the wifi get working when plugging ethernet cable ... [11:33] Aporie: Nah, I think it then reroutes it over the cable. [11:34] ok thanks lordievader [11:34] cable is not linked in for now, and I'm connecting by ssh to the server [11:35] Link detected: yes result from ethtool [11:35] and that WON is not active [11:36] http://pastebin.com/9rjcbQni [11:36] Hmm, that looks correct. [11:37] SO everything seems correct, but the wifi connexion get active when plugging the ehernet cable [11:38] is the problem could come from bios settings ? [11:39] but it's stupid the make the wifi active just when ethernet cable is plugged in === nathema is now known as nath|off [11:39] to make* [11:39] Aporie: Is the output of iwconfig the same when the ethernet cable is disconnected? [11:40] yes [11:40] Hmm, most interesting... [11:40] association is working but not getting ip address without ethernet cable [11:42] Aporie: Does it work when you use dhcp? [11:42] Is the problem could come from a too weak bitrate ?? [11:42] Bit Rate=144.4 Mb/s fro now [11:43] but if I remember fine, it was like 50Mb /s before plugging ethernet cable [11:44] As long as it doesn't drop to 1/2 Mbps, it should be fine. [11:44] Haaaa !!! [11:44] I've putted a mac filtering on my box [11:44] to the ethernet card === nath|off is now known as nathema [11:48] jpds: any news on strongswan please? Final freeze is this week. [11:50] I deleted the mac filter address from my box ... it's not working too [11:51] I despair [11:56] It doesn't work with dhcp too === nathema is now known as nath|off [12:18] queorgullo is a spambot - any ops here? [12:20] <|\n> ^ i confirm the above === nath|off is now known as nathema [12:39] lordievader, RoyKI, Ok it finally works ! This is the /etc/network/interfaces file which allowed the wifi to work : http://pastebin.com/4TF6j30V [12:40] The fact is, when booting the server, during plymouth, I have a message like it can't find a proper network configuration ... Asking to wait 60 sec to configure network... After that, all is working ! [12:41] And nothing bad in dmesg [12:41] Don't care. The good point is that the server is working with wifi now, and it's good for my small appartment :) [12:41] Thanks you to you guys : lordievader, RoyK [12:42] Aporie: How is that last one different from earlier? [12:44] lordievader : haha ... I don't know. I've just remove the lines for the ethernet config [12:44] have to eat now ... working on that fu**** problem since this morning [12:57] Aporie: goodie [13:22] apw, smb - how's you IPv6?v [13:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1380614 [13:22] Launchpad bug 1380614 in linux "IPv6 address marked as 'mngtmpaddr' under utopic" [Undecided,New] [13:23] jamespage, ignored mostly on my side [13:23] :-( [13:23] jamespage, apw is a bit better there [13:23] just distracted right now [13:24] I suspect stgraber might be good for that as well [13:25] jamespage, we can ask him later. he currently is at the (other) conference but we will see him sooner or later [13:25] ack [13:38] jamespage, what is the problem with this mngtmpaddr ? [13:39] apw, I was not expecting it to be marked as such as I don't think it is a mngtmpaddr [13:39] its diff behaviour to 14.04 [13:39] 3.13 doesn't have that flag [13:39] apw, so when do interfaces get that flag? [13:41] jamespage, it is something userspace requests, iproute2 for instance [13:41] commit 53bd674915379d91e0e505332c89741b34eab05c [13:41] Author: Jiri Pirko [13:41] Date: Fri Dec 6 09:45:22 2013 +0100 [13:41] ipv6 addrconf: introduce IFA_F_MANAGETEMPADDR to tell kernel to manage temporary addresses [13:41] apw, hmm [13:41] network manager is given as an example allowing it to request privacy addresses be used [13:43] Any way i can recover a root password of a machine? Im in recovery mode and when i type root it asks for root password for maintenance or Ctrl+d to continue. :/ 12.04 [13:46] killall: Root shouldn't have a password on Ubuntu. [13:47] ctrl + d to continue or give root password for maintenance [13:47] queorgullo: is spamming me. [13:48] lordievader: it asks for a password === nathema is now known as nath|off === nath|off is now known as nathema [14:14] killall: Ubuntu's policy is to keep the root account deactivated. But anyhow do you have access to the filesystem? [14:15] lordievader: rw init=/bin/bash in grub fixed :D [14:16] Hmm, I suppose that'll work too. [14:20] lordievader: yeap worked [14:29] <|\n> killall, i admire with your nick [14:29] ;) [14:29] hey guys - i have a fairly plain ubuntu server set up in a vm, but some apps have been filling my / (via /tmp) so I watned to add a second drive to use just for /tmp, is there a "proper" way to add it via lvm or can I just format it and add it to fstab? Is there something I need to watch out for? [14:30] |\n: your nick i s way cooler :D [14:30] I added the drive, so I see it on the server (/dev/sdb) - just not sure how to proceed [14:31] fiyawerx: Instead of adding a drive isn't it better to address the issue? [14:32] lordievader: it's Plex - with a few streams transcoding at the same time a total of 8Gb on the filesystem isn't enough [14:33] Hmm, I see. [14:33] I guess I could give the drive specifically to plex and let the regular system stuff use /tmp normally, still [14:33] actually, i think i like that better [14:33] fiyawerx: So you want to enlarge your volume group and add an lv for /tmp? [14:33] so I guess I can really mount it anywhere, not /tmp [14:34] lordievader: if it's going to be a full "disk" is there a benefit to doing it that way as opposed to a direct format/mount? [14:34] fiyawerx: The way you describe it you need to create a new vg and add the secondary hdd as a pv to it. [14:35] fiyawerx: Well the bonus of lvm is that it is more flexible, if say you add a drive of 20 Gb and it turns out only 10 Gb is used, the other 10Gb is not wasted but can be allocated elsewhere. [14:36] or - the converse, if I'm adding a 16GB drive now as say /plextmp, I could expand that if it turns out it's not enoughs pace? [14:36] fiyawerx: Jup, just add another pv. [14:36] perfect, thank you [14:37] never had to play with the lvm stuff manually after the initial setup, gonna look it up now adding a new drive [14:37] fiyawerx: It's good to have some understanding of it before you start messing with it on a production machine. [14:38] yeah, this is running in an esxi host too, so its "production" but mainly my kids are the primary users heh. I took a snapshot to be safe. === nathema is now known as nath|off === krtaylor_ is now known as krtaylor [15:20] Hello together! I have a little problem with the startup of my ubuntu server 14.04, hope someone can give me advise :) It seems, that services starting with an upstart script works perfectly, but services with an init.d script doesn't start at ubuntu boot (rc.local isn't executed, too) :/ (tracked down to this in order of http://askubuntu.com/questions/536152/sysvinit-services-not-starting-on-boot-upstart-services-starting ) [15:21] Does someone has an idea why? [15:51] lordievader: thanks, I think I got it working now, got a new 16GB lv mounted as /plextmp === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [16:05] fiyawerx: No problem ;) === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 [16:13] Hello together! I have a little problem with the startup of my ubuntu server 14.04, hope someone can give me advise :) It seems, that services starting with an upstart script works perfectly, but services with an init.d script doesn't start at ubuntu boot (rc.local isn't executed, too) :/ (tracked down to this in order of http://askubuntu.com/questions/536152/sysvinit-services-not-starting-on-boot-upstart-services-starting ) [16:14] FlorianSW: check /etc/init/rc.conf. This is the upstart job responsible for running Sys V init scripts. [16:15] rbasak: ah, ok, will check, thanks :) === havanami_ is now known as havanamint === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:48] rbasak: ping, around? === bilde2910 is now known as bilde2910|away === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat [17:08] Hello all [17:08] would like to ask about maas [17:09] am I on the right channel? or there are another #ubuntu-clouds :) [17:09] What is MAAS and any info on that [17:09] dcmwai: there is also a #maas [17:09] I only see installation [17:09] but don't see what is the use [17:11] sarnold, just to check.. [17:11] If I already runing vm.. [17:11] I shouldn't be running maas right :) [17:11] * dcmwai is confused... [17:11] dcmwai: it might not be worth the hassle if you've only got a few VMs [17:11] ok I'm on this.. [17:11] http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/about.html [17:11] sarnold, I see ok [17:12] dcmwai: if you've got a few real computers, it might be more useful; if you have racks upon racks of them, it might be the thing that saves your sanity :) === sarnold_ is now known as sarnold [17:19] i'm now at the point (again) where I do not know what to do: It seems, that /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf successfully executes /etc/init.d/rcS which executes /etc/init.d/rc S (in init.d/rc i have inserted a new line to log the runlevel (S is logged) [17:19] After this /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf executes telinit "${DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL}" (DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL is 2, tracked with logger), which should trigger /etc/init.d/rc to run, right? But i haven't a new log line and no runlevel 2 logged :( [17:19] dcmwai: for just a few VMs, just run KVM/libvirt [17:20] RoyK, ok thank you :) [17:53] anyone using apt-mirror, or is there a better alternative ? [18:06] Phibs: I use a squid proxy for apt [18:40] Phibs: it depends on what you are trying to accomplish [18:40] is it for a few machines, or a lot [18:42] Phibs: actually, looking at it now I guess I am using ubumirror === nath|off is now known as nathema [19:39] zul, will the release Juno go into proposed on Friday? [19:39] UCA trusty -proposed? === bilde2910 is now known as bilde2910|away [20:16] jamespage, may want to keep https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1279000 on your radar. just hit it trying to upgrade a long lived glance db to the recent juno packages and had to do some manual db work to get around it [20:16] Launchpad bug 1279000 in oslo-incubator "db migrate script to set charset=utf8 for all tables" [High,Fix released] === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away [21:18] is it ok to post a link to a job opening here? === marcoceppi_ is now known as marcoceppi === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === nathema is now known as nath|off === nath|off is now known as nathema === nathema is now known as nath|off [23:07] dang nobody talks in here === unreal_ is now known as unreal