| === OERIAS is now known as ezgod | ||
| === ezgod is now known as OERIAS | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 06:57 |
|---|---|---|
| SuperMatt | morning | 07:10 |
| MooDoo | howdy SuperMatt how are you today? | 07:12 |
| SuperMatt | exhausted to the extreme | 07:13 |
| SuperMatt | you? | 07:13 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:13 |
| SuperMatt | ning | 07:18 |
| brobostigon | morning SuperMatt | 07:20 |
| brobostigon | heavy rain, heavy winds, :( | 07:20 |
| SuperMatt | yeah, it's quite a sucky day today | 07:21 |
| brobostigon | yes, definatly, i had loads planned too. | 07:22 |
| SuperMatt | what could you have possibly done which was ruined by the addition of rain? | 07:28 |
| brobostigon | i had a few jobs in town, so could get pretty wet. | 07:29 |
| SuperMatt | eh, just suck it up and don't wear jeans | 07:30 |
| brobostigon | suck up the rain? | 07:30 |
| SuperMatt | yes, the jeans will | 07:30 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 07:30 |
| DJones | brobostigon: Does a heavy wind weigh more than a light wind :) I've got visions of winds so strong they've ripped roof's off making them heavier :) | 07:39 |
| DJones | Had to get some new work shoes at the weekend, found my old ones were leaking a bit with all the rain around lately | 07:40 |
| brobostigon | good question. | 07:40 |
| DJones | The perils of UK autumn's | 07:40 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 07:40 |
| DJones | I think thats definatly a question for Prof Brian Cox | 07:41 |
| brobostigon | and the wind swept hair/afro look, after being caught in heavy winds. | 07:41 |
| DJones | Heh, don't have to worry about that, my head a visit from a razor blade at the weekend | 07:43 |
| brobostigon | ah, i see. | 07:44 |
| brobostigon | my hair hits my shoulders and is very fine and curly. | 07:44 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:06 |
| brobostigon | morning diplo | 08:06 |
| OERIAS | BitchX | 08:16 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| l34rn | how to create channel and set my password irssi ? | 08:36 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Yorkshire Pudding Day! :-D | 08:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Day_for_Natural_Disaster_Reduction | 08:56 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: man this should of been yesterday nobody sane has yorkies on a monday | 09:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | yorkies the dog or yorkies the chocolate? | 09:13 |
| davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: yorkie puds it was in reply to JamesTait :P | 09:17 |
| awilkins | MMMmn, giant Yorkshire pud filled with sausage casserole sounds like a right winner in thie weather | 09:23 |
| awilkins | Maybe line the bottom with cheese to prevent leaking of gravy | 09:24 |
| JamesTait | awilkins, can I come to your house for dinner? | 09:25 |
| diplo | Anyone any good with SEO in here ? | 09:25 |
| diplo | Basically wondering if SEO hasn't been populated on a product, having it display a default of something is worthwhile ? | 09:26 |
| diplo | bigcalm any ideas ? | 09:26 |
| awilkins | JamesTait, while my cooking is pretty good, not sure it's worth the trip unless you live within spitting distance of the pie-ron curtain | 09:26 |
| awilkins | (Wigan-ish) | 09:26 |
| JamesTait | awilkins, but you sold it so well! | 09:27 |
| awilkins | Last night was sausage roasted with caramelised apples and shallots | 09:27 |
| awilkins | And mash | 09:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | ooooh fraggle rock coming to big screen... http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/movies/movie-news/80s-hits-labyrinth-and-fraggle-rock-making-a-comeback-30659098.html | 09:36 |
| popey | dammit, have the fraggle rock theme in my head now | 09:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | sorry, my bad :-) | 09:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's a doozer :-D | 09:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | doozy, i meant doozy :-p | 09:45 |
| popey | :þ | 09:46 |
| OERIAS | Yes or No? | 10:06 |
| OERIAS | Vote yes or no. | 10:06 |
| directhex | maybe. | 10:06 |
| OERIAS | maybe? | 10:06 |
| directhex | maybe. i vote maybe. | 10:06 |
| OERIAS | are you Scot? | 10:07 |
| OERIAS | English? | 10:07 |
| OERIAS | Irish? | 10:07 |
| directhex | human | 10:07 |
| OERIAS | Welsh? | 10:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think you have to allow a spoiled vote in some places | 10:09 |
| OERIAS | zmoylan-pi, the scots should be happy that their country is prosperous | 10:17 |
| OERIAS | when the union of crowns occured, scotland was a poor and barren country | 10:17 |
| davmor2 | popey: Mahna Mahna. That should help | 10:26 |
| davmor2 | I'll just leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_tupPBtWQ | 10:27 |
| ali1234 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKX1EY6dkIY | 10:27 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: I prefer the good version that the Muppets did :P | 10:28 |
| ali1234 | who doesn't? | 10:29 |
| davmor2 | Todays music will be Mostly Prodigy | 10:31 |
| shauno | davmor2: the oddest version I've found, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44NQkFJaEuE | 10:33 |
| ujjain | Dutch guy: "Do you want another cup of coffee?" | 10:55 |
| ujjain | British guy: "No, that's quite alright." | 10:55 |
| ujjain | That means no coffee or yes coffee? | 10:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | no coffee | 10:56 |
| ujjain | right, not sure why it's the #1 comment on our subreddit | 10:56 |
| ujjain | http://www.reddit.com/r/thenetherlands/comments/2iz0go/the_anglodutch_translation_guide/ | 10:56 |
| ujjain | Dutch guy goes and gets a cup of coffee for himself. British guy is left wondering why the Dutch guy didn't bring him a cup, because he only asked once, and surely you decline the first time someone asks to do something for you. | 10:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | no no no, yes :-) | 10:57 |
| popey | first word was "no", so that's "no" surely | 10:59 |
| ali1234 | when i went to amsterdam with my brother, he explained the dutch to me by saying "they're like you" | 11:00 |
| directhex | popey: in fairness, an emphatic yes in russian is "da da da". an emphatic no is "da nyet" | 11:01 |
| directhex | oh my god they killed bob the builder. | 11:04 |
| directhex | https://i.imgur.com/9l4DIn9.jpg | 11:04 |
| ali1234 | why is he five?? | 11:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | turns out he was a gang master underpaying workers? | 11:04 |
| directhex | teletubbies remake confirmed; no images for that yet | 11:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | when they reboot moschops they'll have offically run out of ideas :-) | 11:07 |
| directhex | hudl2! | 11:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | this time they mean it | 11:47 |
| popey | heh | 11:53 |
| popey | mine arrives tomorrow | 11:53 |
| Laney | banging donk | 12:00 |
| diddledan_ | o_O | 12:01 |
| diddledan_ | that sounds n0rty | 12:01 |
| awilkins | You don't need a gun when you have a Donk : www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDTDUPZrag | 12:17 |
| shauno | in all fairness dan, you think "rebooting the teletubbies" sounds n0rty | 12:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | guessing that's crocodile dundee | 12:17 |
| * zmoylan-pi wonders if that is on my dvd list, i remember buying it but haven't seen it in a while.... | 12:18 | |
| diddledan_ | shauno: that's dirty | 12:18 |
| awilkins | zmoylan-pi, Yup.. Croc Dundee II was much better than the first one IMHO | 12:18 |
| * diddledan_ reboots some teletubbies | 12:18 | |
| zmoylan-pi | well remember they tried to ban teletubbies for promoting homosexuality | 12:19 |
| diddledan_ | zmoylan-pi: yeah | 12:19 |
| diddledan_ | all because of a handbag | 12:19 |
| shauno | they were unfortunately ahead of the manbag phase. just too early. | 12:20 |
| awilkins | How could they tell which ones were male and which ones were female? | 12:27 |
| awilkins | Just because they had different voice pitches meant nothing | 12:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | well one had what looked like a dildo on their head which was mentioned a bit i seem to remember | 12:28 |
| awilkins | This morning they mentioned Robinson's Golliwogs on the radio. My gran used to collect the enamel badge pins when I was a kid. | 12:28 |
| shauno | if they'd actually watched it, they'd know it was the vacuum cleaner who was the real troublemaker anyway. | 12:28 |
| awilkins | I remember Golliwogs but what I don't remember was having any notion that they were associated with race | 12:28 |
| diddledan_ | not allowed to call them that anymore - they're "gollys" now | 12:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | you also had gollybars which was icecream on a stick which had to be renamed and rebranded | 12:28 |
| awilkins | As far as I knew they were just t Thing | 12:28 |
| awilkins | They were a creature like any other that inhabited fairy tale worlds - nothing to do with reality | 12:29 |
| awilkins | I know now their origins are not exactly blameless, but they just had no such association for me as a kid | 12:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | ditto but if you were someone who was insulted by that name wouldn't you be glad to see back of it? | 12:30 |
| awilkins | Probably | 12:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | i kinda lean towards the warner warning they now have on some their 1940s cartoons which were incredibly racist. | 12:31 |
| awilkins | I thought that was very mature of them | 12:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | and changing huckleberry finn in schools seems like it's sanitising something that kids need to learn | 12:32 |
| diddledan_ | I've never read huckleberry finn | 12:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | read them when i was 12 i think | 12:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | first book written on a typewriter iirc | 12:43 |
| popey | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29595164 | 12:55 |
| popey | *vomit* | 12:55 |
| Seeker` | popey: literally just read that here | 12:56 |
| Seeker` | makes my nose itch | 12:56 |
| popey | ditto | 12:57 |
| diddledan_ | she seems really cool about it | 12:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | the leech has since dropped of a cv at the tax office... | 12:59 |
| diddledan_ | zmoylan-pi: surely it's applied for immigrant benefits? | 12:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's a terrible stereotype to assume immigrants don't want to work | 13:00 |
| shauno | it's the beeb, not the daily mail | 13:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | but a leech working in tax office is still funny | 13:00 |
| diddledan_ | zmoylan-pi: yeah, but the media! | 13:01 |
| diddledan_ | teh medias are telling me migrants are scum | 13:01 |
| diddledan_ | I don't actually believe in xenophobia | 13:02 |
| shauno | oi, I'm a migrant. | 13:02 |
| diddledan_ | shauno: scum! | 13:02 |
| diddledan_ | shauno: ukip won a byelection | 13:03 |
| shauno | makes me surprised more people aren't leaving | 13:03 |
| Myrtti | because the situation isn't great anywhere | 13:05 |
| Myrtti | besides, if you move, you're a migrant yourself | 13:05 |
| diddledan_ | I think quite a few european countries are going through the same extreme-right-wing invasion | 13:05 |
| shauno | I think the problem is that people are desperate for any kind of change, and no-one else is offering anything | 13:09 |
| shauno | I mean, I really can't figure out what's going on in the UK. I don't know if milliband has looked in a mirror lately, but he's the complete stereotype of a tory | 13:10 |
| shauno | so you have red tories, blue torries, and the raving monster looney .. er .. ukip | 13:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | isn't that how hitler got into power shauno? | 13:11 |
| davmor2 | and then we take over the world......oh wait didn't we do that once already? | 13:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | not really, you had a big chunk of it but a lot of it was... uncontrolled | 13:13 |
| shauno | ah yes. Izzard's "do you have a flag?" school of global governance ;) | 13:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | and it came down to whose troops were closest | 13:16 |
| Seeker` | so much politics in here recently | 13:21 |
| popey | really? | 13:21 |
| popey | some | 13:21 |
| shauno | I actually thought the opposite. the whole Scotland thing went by with so little comment, I half wondered if it had been declared verboten while I wasn't paying attention | 13:22 |
| Seeker` | popey: i don't look in here often. But usually when I do there is something politics related in my current view | 13:23 |
| Seeker` | which is a lot more than I remember there being :P | 13:23 |
| popey | yeah, it was barely discussed here | 13:24 |
| Myrtti | ooooohhhh http://www.finndeli.co.uk/ | 13:24 |
| Myrtti | omnomnom | 13:24 |
| Myrtti | Seeker`: it happens from time to time | 13:29 |
| christel | they have moomin biscuits :D | 13:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | moo papa and moo mama? | 13:56 |
| Myrtti | christel: no Tove 100 years tin, though | 14:00 |
| Myrtti | funkyHat: fix your irssi | 15:17 |
| === jdc_ is now known as jdca | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan_ | so skype got updated a few days ago for the mac and pc - I'm betting that doesn't include linuxen | 16:56 |
| popey | it's always lagged behind in updates | 16:59 |
| === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| barath | Hi guys I was looking for some help with plex media server I have just reinstalled 14.04 and restored backup however I cannot seem to get plex to rescan the library I want? | 17:53 |
| knightwise | mornin peeps | 18:23 |
| popey | oops.. directhex someone bricked their hudl2 http://www.modaco.com/topic/373587-hudl-2-rooting/#entry2233668 | 19:04 |
| popey | colour me unsurprised | 19:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | well if they managed to get it for less than a fiver they won't feel so bad about it? :-) | 19:08 |
| davmor2 | popey: it's almost like they don't want you to | 19:24 |
| directhex | popey, that was fast | 19:54 |
| popey | yeah ☻ | 19:56 |
| popey | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1071086547/ampy-power-your-devices-from-your-motion | 19:56 |
| popey | novel | 19:56 |
| === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon | ||
| zmoylan-pi | or you know they could build devices that use less power | 20:08 |
| HelpSeeker | I need some help... | 21:36 |
| HelpSeeker | can someone help? | 21:36 |
| HelpSeeker | does this chat even work... | 21:36 |
| HelpSeeker | =.= | 21:37 |
| HelpSeeker | Nobody on?! | 21:37 |
| HelpSeeker | NEED SOME HELP.... | 21:38 |
| Myrtti | did you ask in #ubuntu? | 21:38 |
| HelpSeeker | what you mean? | 21:38 |
| HelpSeeker | I'm new, don't understand how this works. | 21:38 |
| daftykins | both this channel (#ubuntu-uk) and #ubuntu are 'rooms' where you can get help, #ubuntu is the main support channel however. | 21:40 |
| daftykins | you'll find more active users and thus more volunteers willing to help, in there | 21:40 |
| HelpSeeker | Ah, alright. Are you willingly to help right now? | 21:40 |
| daftykins | you've already asked in the other channel, also you seem to have connected twice... using two different browser windows/tabs? | 21:41 |
| daftykins | a good first step is to actually ask the question | 21:41 |
| HelpSeeker | Is that illegal? | 21:41 |
| HelpSeeker | Ok.. | 21:41 |
| daftykins | it's just unnecessary | 21:41 |
| daftykins | a single webchat instance can connect to many channels at once | 21:41 |
| daftykins | just type "/j #channelname" into one and close the other | 21:41 |
| HelpSeeker | Well, I've installed Ubuntu in my laptop, it's been running for months now. | 21:42 |
| daftykins | ok | 21:42 |
| HelpSeeker | Today suddenly when booting my laptop it jumps to BIOS and it shows me that my drive is not present? | 21:42 |
| daftykins | sounds like a hardware failure, are you versed in computer hardware? | 21:43 |
| HelpSeeker | I've USB stick, bootable Ubuntu. Tried to open it up without installing it. After that I completly removed the partition and did a clean install again. | 21:43 |
| HelpSeeker | And still have the same problem. | 21:43 |
| daftykins | so setup was able to see the hard disk? | 21:43 |
| HelpSeeker | Yes, I could see my drive when I was booted from my USB. | 21:44 |
| daftykins | what are you typing from now? | 21:44 |
| HelpSeeker | From my laptop.. I'm running it without installing it.. | 21:44 |
| HelpSeeker | from my USB. | 21:44 |
| daftykins | ok, can you open a terminal window using Ctrl+alt+T then run a few commands... | 21:44 |
| daftykins | "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" | 21:45 |
| HelpSeeker | ok... | 21:45 |
| daftykins | then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" | 21:45 |
| HelpSeeker | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8555264/ | 21:45 |
| daftykins | ok looks like a relatively modern laptop with an EFI installation of Ubuntu | 21:46 |
| HelpSeeker | Yep. | 21:46 |
| daftykins | couple more: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" and "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" | 21:46 |
| HelpSeeker | E: Command line option 'a' [from -a] is not known. You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. | 21:46 |
| daftykins | that was on the second? | 21:47 |
| HelpSeeker | yes | 21:47 |
| daftykins | what happens if you run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" on its' own? | 21:47 |
| HelpSeeker | sudo: smartctl: command not found | 21:47 |
| daftykins | you need to install it with the first command first | 21:48 |
| daftykins | surely it worked? | 21:48 |
| HelpSeeker | E: Unable to locate package smartctl | 21:48 |
| HelpSeeker | What you mean? | 21:48 |
| daftykins | "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" | 21:49 |
| daftykins | did that one not run fine? | 21:49 |
| HelpSeeker | the last cone works... | 21:49 |
| HelpSeeker | one* | 21:49 |
| daftykins | so smartmontools is installed now? | 21:49 |
| HelpSeeker | Installing... | 21:50 |
| HelpSeeker | done. | 21:50 |
| daftykins | "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" | 21:50 |
| HelpSeeker | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8555297/ | 21:50 |
| HelpSeeker | Be right back... | 21:52 |
| HelpSeeker | sorry | 21:52 |
| daftykins | np | 21:53 |
| HelpSeeker | back | 21:53 |
| daftykins | ok doesn't look to be anything wrong with that, i think something is up with your laptop's EFI (the "BIOS") that it's failing to allow proper boot. some settings wrong maybe | 21:54 |
| HelpSeeker | It could be, I haven't changed anything... so I'm not sure. | 21:54 |
| HelpSeeker | I disabled those fast easy boot options etc. before, and it's still the same. | 21:55 |
| daftykins | any updates available from the manufacturer? | 21:56 |
| HelpSeeker | I've no clue, I updated and upgraded any packages recently. | 21:57 |
| daftykins | i mean updated BIOS/EFI for the laptop, from the manufacturer | 21:59 |
| daftykins | what's the make and model? | 21:59 |
| HelpSeeker | ASUS R513C | 21:59 |
| daftykins | hang on i'm going to be a short while, drama ensuing | 22:02 |
| HelpSeeker | OK. | 22:02 |
| daftykins | i'd go into the BIOS and check the version # there against what's on the Asus website | 22:02 |
| HelpSeeker | Alright | 22:03 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| HelpSeeker | @daftykins, are you still on? | 22:12 |
| daftykins | yeah here and there | 22:13 |
| HelpSeeker | I made an screenshot and uploaded it if you don't mind... | 22:13 |
| HelpSeeker | http://prntscr.com/4vxdd8 | 22:13 |
| daftykins | v204 | 22:14 |
| HelpSeeker | Yup. | 22:14 |
| HelpSeeker | If I'm not wrong v207 is the latest... http://www.asus.com/supportonly/R513CL/HelpDesk_Download/ | 22:19 |
| daftykins | if you're absolutely sure on the model number, yep | 22:22 |
| daftykins | performing a BIOS update isn't without risk, though | 22:22 |
| daftykins | there's no data on this hard disk right now that you need, presumably? | 22:22 |
| HelpSeeker | It says R513CL, while I have R513C. | 22:23 |
| HelpSeeker | Same model right? | 22:23 |
| daftykins | mmm, is it written on an underside label specifically? | 22:23 |
| daftykins | and purchased in the UK? | 22:23 |
| HelpSeeker | No, from EU. | 22:24 |
| HelpSeeker | The Netherlands. | 22:24 |
| daftykins | ah, perhaps i won't find that model on the UK page i'm on then | 22:24 |
| HelpSeeker | Awh. | 22:25 |
| daftykins | is that where you are, or? | 22:25 |
| HelpSeeker | There are no another solutions possible for this? | 22:25 |
| HelpSeeker | I was just on this site, don't know it's the same where you were looking on? | 22:26 |
| HelpSeeker | http://www.asus.com/supportonly/R513CL/HelpDesk_Download/ | 22:26 |
| daftykins | i need a sec, kinda multi tasking here | 22:26 |
| daftykins | i was just attempting to browse to a European site | 22:26 |
| HelpSeeker | Haha, okay take your time. | 22:27 |
| HelpSeeker | OK. | 22:27 |
| daftykins | hmm NL site only has the -CL too, so i can only assume that's as close as they'll get | 22:29 |
| daftykins | but i kind of find it risky for the idea of updating the BIOS | 22:29 |
| daftykins | anyway - it came with Windows 8 and you didn't want it - presumably? | 22:29 |
| HelpSeeker | yes | 22:29 |
| HelpSeeker | I prefer Linux | 22:30 |
| HelpSeeker | Could have done it in virtual machine, but didn't like the experience of it. | 22:30 |
| daftykins | so you wiped the entire disk, when you were installing? | 22:30 |
| daftykins | every single partition removed? | 22:30 |
| HelpSeeker | Yes. | 22:30 |
| daftykins | did you change any EFI boot settings like 'Fast Boot' or 'Secure Boot' in the EFI? | 22:30 |
| HelpSeeker | I disabled fast boot. | 22:31 |
| HelpSeeker | and CSM | 22:31 |
| HelpSeeker | But with those options I was able to run Ubuntu for like a month now, it just happend today. | 22:31 |
| daftykins | yeah seems a little bit odd. and this is 14.04.1 ? | 22:32 |
| HelpSeeker | yes | 22:32 |
| daftykins | what i would do then is zero fill with dd the first 200MB of the disk or so, clean install again | 22:32 |
| daftykins | if it boots correctly, good stuff - see how it goes | 22:32 |
| daftykins | but otherwise, i would enable CSM and install in Legacy mode | 22:32 |
| daftykins | there aren't really any benefits to EFI installs | 22:32 |
| HelpSeeker | what is a legacy mode? | 22:33 |
| daftykins | CSM enables the older BIOS install method | 22:34 |
| daftykins | hmm not sure we have a bot in here anymore, one sec | 22:34 |
| daftykins | !uefi | 22:34 |
| lubotu3 | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 22:34 |
| daftykins | ah yeah. check out that link, it'll show the difference between EFI and Legacy installs | 22:34 |
| HelpSeeker | cool | 22:34 |
| HelpSeeker | Do you think that this problem still may occur when changing from OS or distro? | 22:35 |
| daftykins | since i don't have a clue what's happening i have no way of knowing | 22:36 |
| HelpSeeker | I understand. | 22:36 |
| daftykins | if it were just hanging and going to a black screen, instead of the setup screen - i'd have at least some suggestions such as booting an older kernel | 22:36 |
| daftykins | but i'm by no means the most experienced user - so you might get better info elsewhere | 22:37 |
| HelpSeeker | Ok, thanks a lot for your help. | 22:37 |
| daftykins | no problem, definitely give the BIOS install a try | 22:38 |
| daftykins | it might work better | 22:38 |
| HelpSeeker | I will do it, thanks again ;) | 22:38 |
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