=== OERIAS is now known as ezgod === ezgod is now known as OERIAS [06:57] morning all [07:10] morning [07:12] howdy SuperMatt how are you today? [07:13] exhausted to the extreme [07:13] you? [07:13] morning boys and girls. [07:18] ning [07:20] morning SuperMatt [07:20] heavy rain, heavy winds, :( [07:21] yeah, it's quite a sucky day today [07:22] yes, definatly, i had loads planned too. [07:28] what could you have possibly done which was ruined by the addition of rain? [07:29] i had a few jobs in town, so could get pretty wet. [07:30] eh, just suck it up and don't wear jeans [07:30] suck up the rain? [07:30] yes, the jeans will [07:30] yes. [07:39] brobostigon: Does a heavy wind weigh more than a light wind :) I've got visions of winds so strong they've ripped roof's off making them heavier :) [07:40] Had to get some new work shoes at the weekend, found my old ones were leaking a bit with all the rain around lately [07:40] good question. [07:40] The perils of UK autumn's [07:40] yes. [07:41] I think thats definatly a question for Prof Brian Cox [07:41] and the wind swept hair/afro look, after being caught in heavy winds. [07:43] Heh, don't have to worry about that, my head a visit from a razor blade at the weekend [07:44] ah, i see. [07:44] my hair hits my shoulders and is very fine and curly. [08:06] Morning all [08:06] morning diplo [08:16] BitchX === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [08:36] how to create channel and set my password irssi ? [08:53] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Yorkshire Pudding Day! :-D [08:56] also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Day_for_Natural_Disaster_Reduction [09:12] JamesTait: man this should of been yesterday nobody sane has yorkies on a monday [09:13] yorkies the dog or yorkies the chocolate? [09:17] zmoylan-pi: yorkie puds it was in reply to JamesTait :P [09:23] MMMmn, giant Yorkshire pud filled with sausage casserole sounds like a right winner in thie weather [09:24] Maybe line the bottom with cheese to prevent leaking of gravy [09:25] awilkins, can I come to your house for dinner? [09:25] Anyone any good with SEO in here ? [09:26] Basically wondering if SEO hasn't been populated on a product, having it display a default of something is worthwhile ? [09:26] bigcalm any ideas ? [09:26] JamesTait, while my cooking is pretty good, not sure it's worth the trip unless you live within spitting distance of the pie-ron curtain [09:26] (Wigan-ish) [09:27] awilkins, but you sold it so well! [09:27] Last night was sausage roasted with caramelised apples and shallots [09:27] And mash [09:36] ooooh fraggle rock coming to big screen... http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/movies/movie-news/80s-hits-labyrinth-and-fraggle-rock-making-a-comeback-30659098.html [09:45] dammit, have the fraggle rock theme in my head now [09:45] sorry, my bad :-) [09:45] it's a doozer :-D [09:45] doozy, i meant doozy :-p [09:46] :þ [10:06] Yes or No? [10:06] Vote yes or no. [10:06] maybe. [10:06] maybe? [10:06] maybe. i vote maybe. [10:07] are you Scot? [10:07] English? [10:07] Irish? [10:07] human [10:07] Welsh? [10:09] i think you have to allow a spoiled vote in some places [10:17] zmoylan-pi, the scots should be happy that their country is prosperous [10:17] when the union of crowns occured, scotland was a poor and barren country [10:26] popey: Mahna Mahna. That should help [10:27] I'll just leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_tupPBtWQ [10:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKX1EY6dkIY [10:28] ali1234: I prefer the good version that the Muppets did :P [10:29] who doesn't? [10:31] Todays music will be Mostly Prodigy [10:33] davmor2: the oddest version I've found, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44NQkFJaEuE [10:55] Dutch guy: "Do you want another cup of coffee?" [10:55] British guy: "No, that's quite alright." [10:56] That means no coffee or yes coffee? [10:56] no coffee [10:56] right, not sure why it's the #1 comment on our subreddit [10:56] http://www.reddit.com/r/thenetherlands/comments/2iz0go/the_anglodutch_translation_guide/ [10:56] Dutch guy goes and gets a cup of coffee for himself. British guy is left wondering why the Dutch guy didn't bring him a cup, because he only asked once, and surely you decline the first time someone asks to do something for you. [10:57] no no no, yes :-) [10:59] first word was "no", so that's "no" surely [11:00] when i went to amsterdam with my brother, he explained the dutch to me by saying "they're like you" [11:01] popey: in fairness, an emphatic yes in russian is "da da da". an emphatic no is "da nyet" [11:04] oh my god they killed bob the builder. [11:04] https://i.imgur.com/9l4DIn9.jpg [11:04] why is he five?? [11:04] turns out he was a gang master underpaying workers? [11:06] teletubbies remake confirmed; no images for that yet [11:07] when they reboot moschops they'll have offically run out of ideas :-) [11:43] hudl2! [11:47] this time they mean it [11:53] heh [11:53] mine arrives tomorrow [12:00] banging donk [12:01] o_O [12:01] that sounds n0rty [12:17] You don't need a gun when you have a Donk : www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDTDUPZrag [12:17] in all fairness dan, you think "rebooting the teletubbies" sounds n0rty [12:17] guessing that's crocodile dundee [12:18] * zmoylan-pi wonders if that is on my dvd list, i remember buying it but haven't seen it in a while.... [12:18] shauno: that's dirty [12:18] zmoylan-pi, Yup.. Croc Dundee II was much better than the first one IMHO [12:18] * diddledan_ reboots some teletubbies [12:19] well remember they tried to ban teletubbies for promoting homosexuality [12:19] zmoylan-pi: yeah [12:19] all because of a handbag [12:20] they were unfortunately ahead of the manbag phase. just too early. [12:27] How could they tell which ones were male and which ones were female? [12:27] Just because they had different voice pitches meant nothing [12:28] well one had what looked like a dildo on their head which was mentioned a bit i seem to remember [12:28] This morning they mentioned Robinson's Golliwogs on the radio. My gran used to collect the enamel badge pins when I was a kid. [12:28] if they'd actually watched it, they'd know it was the vacuum cleaner who was the real troublemaker anyway. [12:28] I remember Golliwogs but what I don't remember was having any notion that they were associated with race [12:28] not allowed to call them that anymore - they're "gollys" now [12:28] you also had gollybars which was icecream on a stick which had to be renamed and rebranded [12:28] As far as I knew they were just t Thing [12:29] They were a creature like any other that inhabited fairy tale worlds - nothing to do with reality [12:29] I know now their origins are not exactly blameless, but they just had no such association for me as a kid [12:30] ditto but if you were someone who was insulted by that name wouldn't you be glad to see back of it? [12:30] Probably [12:31] i kinda lean towards the warner warning they now have on some their 1940s cartoons which were incredibly racist. [12:31] I thought that was very mature of them [12:32] and changing huckleberry finn in schools seems like it's sanitising something that kids need to learn [12:42] I've never read huckleberry finn [12:43] read them when i was 12 i think [12:43] first book written on a typewriter iirc [12:55] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29595164 [12:55] *vomit* [12:56] popey: literally just read that here [12:56] makes my nose itch [12:57] ditto [12:58] she seems really cool about it [12:59] the leech has since dropped of a cv at the tax office... [12:59] zmoylan-pi: surely it's applied for immigrant benefits? [13:00] that's a terrible stereotype to assume immigrants don't want to work [13:00] it's the beeb, not the daily mail [13:00] but a leech working in tax office is still funny [13:01] zmoylan-pi: yeah, but the media! [13:01] teh medias are telling me migrants are scum [13:02] I don't actually believe in xenophobia [13:02] oi, I'm a migrant. [13:02] shauno: scum! [13:03] shauno: ukip won a byelection [13:03] makes me surprised more people aren't leaving [13:05] because the situation isn't great anywhere [13:05] besides, if you move, you're a migrant yourself [13:05] I think quite a few european countries are going through the same extreme-right-wing invasion [13:09] I think the problem is that people are desperate for any kind of change, and no-one else is offering anything [13:10] I mean, I really can't figure out what's going on in the UK. I don't know if milliband has looked in a mirror lately, but he's the complete stereotype of a tory [13:10] so you have red tories, blue torries, and the raving monster looney .. er .. ukip [13:11] isn't that how hitler got into power shauno? [13:12] and then we take over the world......oh wait didn't we do that once already? [13:13] not really, you had a big chunk of it but a lot of it was... uncontrolled [13:13] ah yes. Izzard's "do you have a flag?" school of global governance ;) [13:16] and it came down to whose troops were closest [13:21] so much politics in here recently [13:21] really? [13:21] some [13:22] I actually thought the opposite. the whole Scotland thing went by with so little comment, I half wondered if it had been declared verboten while I wasn't paying attention [13:23] popey: i don't look in here often. But usually when I do there is something politics related in my current view [13:23] which is a lot more than I remember there being :P [13:24] yeah, it was barely discussed here [13:24] ooooohhhh http://www.finndeli.co.uk/ [13:24] omnomnom [13:29] Seeker`: it happens from time to time [13:55] they have moomin biscuits :D [13:56] moo papa and moo mama? [14:00] christel: no Tove 100 years tin, though [15:17] funkyHat: fix your irssi === jdc_ is now known as jdca === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:56] so skype got updated a few days ago for the mac and pc - I'm betting that doesn't include linuxen [16:59] it's always lagged behind in updates === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:53] Hi guys I was looking for some help with plex media server I have just reinstalled 14.04 and restored backup however I cannot seem to get plex to rescan the library I want? [18:23] mornin peeps [19:04] oops.. directhex someone bricked their hudl2 http://www.modaco.com/topic/373587-hudl-2-rooting/#entry2233668 [19:04] colour me unsurprised [19:08] well if they managed to get it for less than a fiver they won't feel so bad about it? :-) [19:24] popey: it's almost like they don't want you to [19:54] popey, that was fast [19:56] yeah ☻ [19:56] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1071086547/ampy-power-your-devices-from-your-motion [19:56] novel === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon [20:08] or you know they could build devices that use less power [21:36] I need some help... [21:36] can someone help? [21:36] does this chat even work... [21:37] =.= [21:37] Nobody on?! [21:38] NEED SOME HELP.... [21:38] did you ask in #ubuntu? [21:38] what you mean? [21:38] I'm new, don't understand how this works. [21:40] both this channel (#ubuntu-uk) and #ubuntu are 'rooms' where you can get help, #ubuntu is the main support channel however. [21:40] you'll find more active users and thus more volunteers willing to help, in there [21:40] Ah, alright. Are you willingly to help right now? [21:41] you've already asked in the other channel, also you seem to have connected twice... using two different browser windows/tabs? [21:41] a good first step is to actually ask the question [21:41] Is that illegal? [21:41] Ok.. [21:41] it's just unnecessary [21:41] a single webchat instance can connect to many channels at once [21:41] just type "/j #channelname" into one and close the other [21:42] Well, I've installed Ubuntu in my laptop, it's been running for months now. [21:42] ok [21:42] Today suddenly when booting my laptop it jumps to BIOS and it shows me that my drive is not present? [21:43] sounds like a hardware failure, are you versed in computer hardware? [21:43] I've USB stick, bootable Ubuntu. Tried to open it up without installing it. After that I completly removed the partition and did a clean install again. [21:43] And still have the same problem. [21:43] so setup was able to see the hard disk? [21:44] Yes, I could see my drive when I was booted from my USB. [21:44] what are you typing from now? [21:44] From my laptop.. I'm running it without installing it.. [21:44] from my USB. [21:44] ok, can you open a terminal window using Ctrl+alt+T then run a few commands... [21:45] "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" [21:45] ok... [21:45] then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" [21:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8555264/ [21:46] ok looks like a relatively modern laptop with an EFI installation of Ubuntu [21:46] Yep. [21:46] couple more: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" and "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" [21:46] E: Command line option 'a' [from -a] is not known. You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. [21:47] that was on the second? [21:47] yes [21:47] what happens if you run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" on its' own? [21:47] sudo: smartctl: command not found [21:48] you need to install it with the first command first [21:48] surely it worked? [21:48] E: Unable to locate package smartctl [21:48] What you mean? [21:49] "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" [21:49] did that one not run fine? [21:49] the last cone works... [21:49] one* [21:49] so smartmontools is installed now? [21:50] Installing... [21:50] done. [21:50] "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" [21:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8555297/ [21:52] Be right back... [21:52] sorry [21:53] np [21:53] back [21:54] ok doesn't look to be anything wrong with that, i think something is up with your laptop's EFI (the "BIOS") that it's failing to allow proper boot. some settings wrong maybe [21:54] It could be, I haven't changed anything... so I'm not sure. [21:55] I disabled those fast easy boot options etc. before, and it's still the same. [21:56] any updates available from the manufacturer? [21:57] I've no clue, I updated and upgraded any packages recently. [21:59] i mean updated BIOS/EFI for the laptop, from the manufacturer [21:59] what's the make and model? [21:59] ASUS R513C [22:02] hang on i'm going to be a short while, drama ensuing [22:02] OK. [22:02] i'd go into the BIOS and check the version # there against what's on the Asus website [22:03] Alright === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [22:12] @daftykins, are you still on? [22:13] yeah here and there [22:13] I made an screenshot and uploaded it if you don't mind... [22:13] http://prntscr.com/4vxdd8 [22:14] v204 [22:14] Yup. [22:19] If I'm not wrong v207 is the latest... http://www.asus.com/supportonly/R513CL/HelpDesk_Download/ [22:22] if you're absolutely sure on the model number, yep [22:22] performing a BIOS update isn't without risk, though [22:22] there's no data on this hard disk right now that you need, presumably? [22:23] It says R513CL, while I have R513C. [22:23] Same model right? [22:23] mmm, is it written on an underside label specifically? [22:23] and purchased in the UK? [22:24] No, from EU. [22:24] The Netherlands. [22:24] ah, perhaps i won't find that model on the UK page i'm on then [22:25] Awh. [22:25] is that where you are, or? [22:25] There are no another solutions possible for this? [22:26] I was just on this site, don't know it's the same where you were looking on? [22:26] http://www.asus.com/supportonly/R513CL/HelpDesk_Download/ [22:26] i need a sec, kinda multi tasking here [22:26] i was just attempting to browse to a European site [22:27] Haha, okay take your time. [22:27] OK. [22:29] hmm NL site only has the -CL too, so i can only assume that's as close as they'll get [22:29] but i kind of find it risky for the idea of updating the BIOS [22:29] anyway - it came with Windows 8 and you didn't want it - presumably? [22:29] yes [22:30] I prefer Linux [22:30] Could have done it in virtual machine, but didn't like the experience of it. [22:30] so you wiped the entire disk, when you were installing? [22:30] every single partition removed? [22:30] Yes. [22:30] did you change any EFI boot settings like 'Fast Boot' or 'Secure Boot' in the EFI? [22:31] I disabled fast boot. [22:31] and CSM [22:31] But with those options I was able to run Ubuntu for like a month now, it just happend today. [22:32] yeah seems a little bit odd. and this is 14.04.1 ? [22:32] yes [22:32] what i would do then is zero fill with dd the first 200MB of the disk or so, clean install again [22:32] if it boots correctly, good stuff - see how it goes [22:32] but otherwise, i would enable CSM and install in Legacy mode [22:32] there aren't really any benefits to EFI installs [22:33] what is a legacy mode? [22:34] CSM enables the older BIOS install method [22:34] hmm not sure we have a bot in here anymore, one sec [22:34] !uefi [22:34] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [22:34] ah yeah. check out that link, it'll show the difference between EFI and Legacy installs [22:34] cool [22:35] Do you think that this problem still may occur when changing from OS or distro? [22:36] since i don't have a clue what's happening i have no way of knowing [22:36] I understand. [22:36] if it were just hanging and going to a black screen, instead of the setup screen - i'd have at least some suggestions such as booting an older kernel [22:37] but i'm by no means the most experienced user - so you might get better info elsewhere [22:37] Ok, thanks a lot for your help. [22:38] no problem, definitely give the BIOS install a try [22:38] it might work better [22:38] I will do it, thanks again ;)