[00:00] <EriC^^> Digipeng: upgrade can't remove or install new packages, whereas dist-upgrade can
[00:00] <hulio> squinty, lol man
[00:00] <bonesTdog> Digipeng-dist-upgrade upgrades your kernel if needed.
[00:00] <hulio> squinty, i hardly believe that linux don't have BR burning software
[00:00] <Digipeng> dist-upgrade can be do upgrades job?
[00:01] <somsip> Digipeng: http://serverfault.com/questions/560364/ubuntu-apt-get-update-vs-upgrade
[00:01] <somsip> !info devede | hulio
[00:01] <somsip> hulio: hang on...whats a BR?
[00:02] <bonesTdog> Digipeng-huh?
[00:02] <squinty> Brighton Rock???   naw  bluray disks
[00:02] <somebody> Can anyone tell, what sexy new things are coming along with 14.10, aside from the nice version mascot name?
[00:02] <B0bsF1sh> Same problem as : http://askubuntu.com/questions/295772/sudo-service-lightdm-stop-will-go-into-a-blank-screen
[00:02] <somsip> squinty: ah - of course. No idea then
[00:02] <EriC^^> Digipeng: dist-upgrade upgrades your packages, but sometimes some packages need modifications such as removing something or installing something else to satisfy dependencies, upgrade doesn't do that and says some packages were held back, dist-upgrade can upgrade those.
[00:03] <bonesTdog> sombody-stability....?
[00:03] <squinty> somebody: join  #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 issues/questions
[00:03] <somebody> squinty: Okay.
[00:04] <modelengine> can anybody tell me what the orangey brown line is close to the bottom of this SS? http://imgur.com/rXhlUzO
[00:04] <modelengine> i know, silly, but what can i say, i'm curious...
[00:04] <squinty> modelengine:  marker line   you can turn it on/off in settings iirc
[00:05] <bonesTdog> modelengine-I wonder that too but never asked. Looking forward to the answer
[00:05] <bonesTdog> marker line for what?
[00:05] <modelengine> squinty, what is it's use?
[00:05] <Digipeng> can i get yum on ubuntu?
[00:05] <EriC^^> Digipeng: yum sucks
[00:05] <bonesTdog> Every x lines?
[00:05] <B0bsF1sh> It just shows you the last place that was visible before you switched away to a different window, so you'll know where to start looking again when you switch back
[00:05] <EriC^^> ( imho )
[00:06] <modelengine> BobsFish, thanks for clearing that up :)
[00:06] <somebody> Digipeng: You theoretically can get anything on Ubuntu, but if you like it, you should probably get to use the distribution that supports it. Fedora, I guess?
[00:06] <squinty> modelengine:  Windows > Reset Marker Line    just a reference point
[00:06] <modelengine> sweet
[00:06] <bonesTdog> B0bsF1sh-Genius! I woul have never figured that out
[00:07] <modelengine> agrees with bonesTdog
[00:07] <tremorcontrol> .ver bonesTdog
[00:07] <Digipeng> !yum
[00:08] <Digipeng> !apt
[00:08] <Digipeng> !rpm
[00:08] <AR45> !node
[00:09] <AR45> !apt-get
[00:09] <modelengine> tried #thunderbird, but very little ppl on there to answer quest's. looking for a channel that well supports tbird for 14.04
[00:09] <AR45> !chmod
[00:09] <AR45> modelengine, what do you need help with?
[00:09] <tremorcontrol> AR45: you need help with somehting?
[00:09] <bonesTdog> !thunderbird
[00:09] <Digipeng> !chown
[00:10] <tremorcontrol> !how do i meet women
[00:10] <tremorcontrol> damn
[00:10] <modelengine> each and every time i open tbird it asks for security exception, no matter how many times i click save exception
[00:10] <AR45> damn
[00:10] <bonesTdog> !WTF
[00:10]  * AR45 facepalm
[00:10] <bonesTdog> funny!
[00:10] <tremorcontrol> its likely referring to an SSl certificate
[00:10] <Digipeng> !c#
[00:10] <tremorcontrol> SSL*
[00:10] <B0bsF1sh> !dpkg
[00:10] <squinty> Digipeng:  aptitude search yum   (or show for more details) could also use apt-cache show/search
[00:11] <AR45> !yum
[00:11] <AR45> !ls
[00:11] <bonesTdog> !hexchat
[00:11] <tremorcontrol> yum >>>>> pile of crap >> apt
[00:11] <modelengine> very very annoying
[00:11] <Digipeng> right never mind its like changing a car from automatic to manual
[00:11] <AR45> !lspci
[00:11] <tremorcontrol> AR45 can you stop that
[00:12] <Flannel> !botabuse
[00:12] <modelengine> Digipeng, doable but not fun
[00:12] <sjm> AR45, there's always /msg ubottu !apt
[00:12] <sjm> etc.
[00:12] <Digipeng> someone has a bot fedish
[00:12] <somsip> AR45: or http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=server
[00:12] <tremorcontrol> AR45 there are always man pages
[00:12]  * AR45 *rolls eyes*
[00:12] <tremorcontrol> for example, type "man paste" in your terminal
[00:12] <AR45> I wasn't the only one doing it >.<
[00:13] <Digipeng> right modelengine doable but not fun
[00:13] <Flannel> Guys, can we please take the offtopic conversations somewhere else (perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic), and get back to technical support here? thanks?
[00:13] <bonesTdog> sure AR45. Throw us under the bus
[00:13] <modelengine> flannel, i have a tech q for you
[00:13] <tremorcontrol> ask me
[00:13] <modelengine> flannel/tremorcontrol: each and every time i open tbird it asks for security exception, no matter how many times i click save exception
[00:14] <squinty> modelengine: it can also be generated by using the wrong log on protocols     check your mail servers logging on details for your email account.  sometimes the thunderbird settings change (black magic) when updates come through.  I have had the same thing happen to me several times over the years now when using thunderbird.
[00:14] <squinty> modelengine:  suggest if you get stuck though, check in the thunderbird channel...
[00:14] <EriC^^> modelengine: maybe the file it saves the config to doesn't have the right persmissions?
[00:14] <tremorcontrol> Yeah I had that issue with tbird on one of my mail accounts. I switched to mutt and had no issues though
[00:14] <modelengine> squinty, just performed clean install, and clean tbird install. enter all pertinent (correctly) info into tbird. but still....
[00:15] <modelengine> tremorcontrol, what is mutt?
[00:15] <tremorcontrol> The security exception has to do with an invalid SSL certificate I believe
[00:15] <somsip> !info mutt | modelengine
[00:15] <tremorcontrol> mutt is the worlds greatest mail client
[00:15] <tremorcontrol> end of story
[00:15] <Flannel> modelengine: There is an add-on for thunderbird that'll let you remember the mismatched certificates.  It's safer than adding a full-fledged exception (which is covered here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-security-exception) because you still get notified if the "wrong" certificate changes in the future.
[00:15] <modelengine> EriC, how to add permissions to config file?
[00:15] <Flannel> tremorcontrol: That's not helpful.  Thanks.
[00:15] <tremorcontrol> he asked
[00:16] <tremorcontrol> thats exactly what it is, a mail client
[00:16] <modelengine> tremorcontrol, is mutt comparable or better looking ui wise than tbird?
[00:16] <Flannel> tremorcontrol: "How do I do X in Y" isn't an appropriate venue for "I use Z to do X!"
[00:16] <modelengine> flannel, tks will install addon
[00:16] <EriC^^> modelengine: check Flannel 's link, and if you want you can also search for files in your home not owned by you, find ~ ! -user <your username>
[00:17] <Flannel> modelengine: It's a text client.  So the UI actually looks similar, but it's not a GUI, it's all in a terminal.
[00:17] <modelengine> flannel, oic
[00:17] <tremorcontrol> Flannel: sorry, i see your point
[00:18] <Flannel> tremorcontrol: Your response to "what is mutt" is perfectly valid though :)
[00:18] <tremorcontrol> I would consider ncurses to be a GUI...
[00:18] <tremorcontrol> and im glad to see another mutt user :)
[00:19] <somsip> +1
[00:19] <Digipeng> I don't think you can use a mouse in ncurses
[00:19] <tremorcontrol> yeah you can
[00:19] <modelengine> i accidentally clicked x and left chat. is there a way to make it so that if i accident click x it asks b4 closing
[00:19] <tremorcontrol> ncmpcpp has mouse support
[00:19] <squinty> modelengine:  using shaw mail?  if yes, recheck their email site tutorial (specific to thunderbird)
[00:20] <modelengine> squinty, yes, and i will
[00:22] <squinty> modelengine:  https://community.shaw.ca/docs/DOC-1652
[00:22] <somebody> I have a question related to my recent inquiry. Does anyone here has any negative experience with Lenovo IdeaPads' GNU/Linux compatibility?
[00:22] <somebody> Does anyone think that their loss of TrackPoint is a great one indeed? :p
[00:23] <tremorcontrol> My ThinkPad is awesome on Linux
[00:23] <tremorcontrol> If you want to get a Lenovo laptop, don't get a new one
[00:23] <somebody> tremorcontrol: Elaborate?
[00:24] <somebody> tremorcontrol: I like the IdeaPad line for my money, but I don't like how they are lacking TrackPoint pips...
[00:24] <tremorcontrol> To start, new thinkpads are very expensive, used thinkpads are everywhere because businesses and schools buy tons of them and sell them a couple years after getting them, and are much cheaper and still in great shape
[00:25] <tremorcontrol> new post 2012 thinkpad now have the chiclet keyboards which are shit, the old thinkpad keyboards are one of the primary advantages
[00:25] <modelengine> is there a way to make it so that if i accident click x it asks b4 closing hexchat?
[00:25] <tremorcontrol> overall build quality has declined in recent years
[00:26] <somebody> tremorcontrol: Did it have to do with the Lenovo's acqusition of the ThinkPad line from the IBM? Does your reasoning apply to the IdeaPads as well?
[00:26] <tremorcontrol> plus the newer thinkpads are less linux compatible than the older ones
[00:27] <tremorcontrol> Lenovo aquired Thinkpads in 2004 and were good initially, but continuously got worse
[00:27] <tremorcontrol> up until the last few years where they have completely divebombed into utter garbage
[00:27] <bazhang> somebody, tremorcontrol #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:27] <tremorcontrol> the old IBM thinkpads are nice...
[00:27] <tremorcontrol> sorry ill stop
[00:27] <somebody> tremorcontrol: Go to my PM if you have something more to say, this is interesting, thank you.
[00:28] <tremorcontrol> mesage me if you want to continue this conversation
[00:28] <modelengine> squinty, I found that after I unchecked use STARTTLS it didn't ask me anymore. this is probably not a good thing security wise, though is it?
[00:31] <modelengine> anyone know how to get Hex Chat to 'confirm before exiting'?
[00:31] <mrkirby153> Any reason why exim is saying this: "2014-10-12 20:29:40 socket bind() to port 25 for address 127.0.0.1 failed: Address already in use: waiting 30s before trying again (2 more tries)
[00:31] <mrkirby153> "
[00:32] <bazhang> try in #hexchat modelengine
[00:32] <modelengine> bazhang, tks
[00:33] <modelengine> bazhang, what is an 'ops' is that like a server admin, with kicking privs?
[00:33] <Digipeng> 127.0.0.1? thats loopback and port 25 is an ftp port. usually to use said port it would require root permission
[00:33] <modelengine> !ops
[00:34] <mrkirby153> Digipeng, Trying to get exim to send mail
[00:34] <mrkirby153> it sends it but there's that
[00:34] <mrkirby153> and php's mail() function doesnt either
[00:36] <somsip> mrkirby153: php requires the sendmail_path (and others) to be set in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[00:36] <mrkirby153> somsip, it is
[00:37] <somsip> mrkirby153: sounds like exim is not working then
[00:37] <mrkirby153> somsip, but if I do "echo "this is a test" | mail -s test my.email@my.domain.com" it works
[00:38] <Digipeng> woops 25 is smtp
[00:39] <Digipeng> maybe you need to use port 587?
[00:39] <phunyguy> do you have another MTA installed?
[00:39] <phunyguy> postfix, etc?
[00:39] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, I don't think so
[00:39] <Digipeng> 587 is for sending and 25 is for recieving
[00:39] <phunyguy> Digipeng: no they both work for both
[00:40] <phunyguy> 587 is "submission" port
[00:40] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, what other mtas are tehre?
[00:40] <phunyguy> not entirely sure....
[00:40] <camtron> Which file(s) contain the startup scripts for desktop environments in Ubuntu.
[00:40] <david82_> does anybody can tell if community is friendly?
[00:40] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, well I know I don't have postfix
[00:40] <phunyguy> maybe you have a rogue exim process
[00:41] <mrkirby153> possibly, how do I make it tame?
[00:41] <Digipeng> does ubuntu have an internal mail service?
[00:41] <phunyguy> Digipeng: no
[00:41] <phunyguy> mrkirby153: ps axf | grep exim
[00:42] <Digipeng> k well that was an idea in redhat based distrubs sometimes the system mails you notices.
[00:42] <mrkirby153> 24503 pts/1    S+     0:00                          \_ grep --color=auto exim
[00:42] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, That's the result
[00:42] <phunyguy> hmm what is the command to list listening ports...
[00:42] <phunyguy> but either way, you have something else running and listening on port 25
[00:42] <hikenboot> hello anyone know if there is a live cd setup for a headless system so one could vnc or ssh into the remote system without keyboard or mouse...it would have to autoboot into the network and setup vnc
[00:43] <somebody> david82_: I am not just anybody, but I can tell you — we are friendly. :p
[00:43] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, its "# netstat -tulpn"
[00:43] <hikenboot> I have an acer system with the black screen of death I want to see if its a problem with the video card or with the bios.
[00:43] <jmesker> jmesker
[00:43] <hikenboot> I see activity on the cdrom
[00:44] <phunyguy> mrkirby153: what do you see?
[00:44] <david82_> i installed kubuntu but i cannot join kubuntu channel it tells me that i am banned but i don't know why i never write anything in kubuntu channel
[00:44] <phunyguy> david82_: join #ubuntu-ops please
[00:45] <mrkirby153> If puush would work
[00:45] <Digipeng> hikenboot: when you start the laptop what do you see?
[00:45] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0et21y6eyk8tjr/Capture.PNG?dl=0
[00:45] <phunyguy> you have sendmail running
[00:45] <hikenboot> black screen. It could have been caused by the previous owner attempting to flash bios that failed or was corrupted
[00:45] <modelengine> want to make thunderbird get mail button, delete button, address book, and create message button larger, much larger
[00:46] <hikenboot> there is a crisis-disk that supposedly fixes this but it doesnt appear to
[00:46] <Digipeng> mind you im ot but hopefully the ops will let me help you.
[00:46] <phunyguy> you must have it enabled as an mta
[00:47] <hikenboot> so i wanted to test if it is in fact capable of booting an operating system
[00:47] <phunyguy> if you want to use exim as your mta, you need to either use a different port, or disable sendmail
[00:47] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, how do I do that?
[00:47] <Digipeng> I KNEW IT ! i knew it was sendmail
[00:47] <mrkirby153> also typing in "sendmail"
[00:47] <phunyguy> mrkirby153: I do not know.  Good luck.
[00:48] <mrkirby153> phunyguy, but typing in "sendmail" says "Exim is a mail transfer agent....."
[00:48] <modelengine> ?
[00:48] <calahan> Hi, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS cannot start vsftpd? Any suggestions?
[00:49] <Digipeng> hikenboot: do you have a monitor you can plug into that laptop?
[00:50] <hikenboot> doesnt work..no video comes up..but i think it boots
[00:50] <modelengine> I have a mac keyboard but am using a pc. right above my delete button there is a arrow pointing up, which is the 'eject dvd drive' button. i hit it accidentally several times a day. how can i disable this button from opening dvd drive?
[00:50] <Bubo> I installed nvidia-current drivers from the xorg ppa. How can I remove those and install some other version without messing up everything?
[00:50] <hikenboot> this is a known acer bios issue I believe if i have diagnosed it correctly. short of soldering a new bios chip I am not having much luck
[00:52] <Digipeng> booting an os means the system is functioning normally. I think your monitor cable to the laptop screen or the screen itself might be the cause.
[00:52] <roberto> salve
[00:52] <roberto> hi
[00:52] <modelengine> Bubo, be VERY careful with this. I was in same boat as you and literally screwed everything up so badly i had to do clean in stall
[00:52] <Olanzapin> Anyone whocan help med getting started with compiz effects and keyboad layout?
[00:53] <modelengine> Bubo, i have no answers for you just a great big flashing yellow caution sign :)
[00:54] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | Bubo
[00:54] <Digipeng> if an external monitor was able to be used it would confirm my susspicition.
[00:54] <modelengine> zykotick9, terminal command line for ppa purge?
[00:55] <Digipeng> loading a disc though doesn't mean loading an os. some bioses on recovery mode beg for a good bios image so they can boot.
[00:55] <Olanzapin> And i also need some help with Netflix-Desktop.... Missing fonts and i tryed as sudo
[00:56] <zykotick9> modelengine: what ppa did you use?  it should be "sudo ppa-purge ppa:theone/youused"  (but to be honest, i don't know if i ever personally used that command)
[00:56] <squinty> modelengine:  might want to check the System Settings > keyboard > shortcuts > Eject  (14.04 unity here anyways)
[00:57] <modelengine> squinty, tks you are very knowledgeable indeed.
[00:57] <Digipeng> hikenboot: does the laptop beep any?
[00:57] <modelengine> zykotick9, can't remember, but will be attempting to install 3rd party ppa's sometime this week for nvidia gfx card
[00:57] <hikenboot> thanks Digipeng but I am almost positive of my diagnosis...with acer's this is a known issue..has something to do with partially corrupt bios (the part that runs the video ) if I could run winpe headless then I could dump another copy of the bios onto the system
[00:57] <hikenboot> Digipeng, no beeps
[00:58] <hikenboot> I figured a linux distro might allow me to at least test my theory out
[00:58] <modelengine> squinty, is there a way to set acceleration to 0?
[00:59] <modelengine> squinty, nm, i set it to ctrl + eject
[01:01] <alturic> I've got NFS setup on both a client and server and everything seems to be working correctly. However, when I restart the NFS server and once it's rebooted (at login console), if I try issuing a ls or even touch blah.blah on the client NFS mount it seems to "hang". After about ~2 minutes of the NFS server being back "up" it works fine though, it's just right after boot for the first X minutes
[01:01] <alturic> it doesn't seem to "respond". Anyone have any input on what could be causing that? The clients mount the NFS mount via /etc/fstab if that matters at all.
[01:04] <zykotick9> alturic: that's historically sounded like NFS reacts to loosing connection (NFS is meant to be a constant connection.  my clients historically never got the nfs connection back as i recall)
[01:04] <savlat007_> I have a Toshiba Satellite C55 Series Laptop. I decided to install Ubuntu because I love Android. When I installed Ubuntu there was a Windows 8 option, but after I restarted my laptop windows 8 option was gone. I have already tried a lot of things like sudo update-grub or sudo update-grub2. Can anyone help. Thanks
[01:04] <modelengine> #thunderbird
[01:04] <savlat007_> anyone
[01:05] <AndChat440561> Hi, guys. Swap is maxed and ram is maxed. I can't even ssh in. I can't tty. Is there a keystroke that I can try that will put processes on hold so I can kill some things?
[01:05] <sydney> I wish...
[01:06] <savlat007_> anyone help
[01:06] <savlat007_> I have a Toshiba Satellite C55 Series Laptop. I decided to install Ubuntu because I love Android. When I installed Ubuntu there was a Windows 8 option, but after I restarted my laptop windows 8 option was gone. I have already tried a lot of things like sudo update-grub or sudo update-grub2. Can anyone help. Thanks
[01:07] <modelengine> hello all, there is like nobody in #thunderbird. need to know how to make main buttons much bigger.
[01:07] <alturic> zykotick9 - Technically the clients did lose connection when I reboot the nfs server, granted they eventually "reconnect" but it's not like "lose connection. zomg start sending pings/heartbeats to the NFS server". I'm curious if that's the real problem (the NFS client losing connection technically speaking when I reboot the server) how I could somehow make them "reconnect" "faster".
[01:07] <sydney> !offtopic | modelengine
[01:07] <sydney> savlat007_: Did it erase your win 8 install?
[01:07] <zykotick9> alturic: if you manually unmount the nfs shares - before rebooting the server = no problem ;)
[01:07] <modelengine> sydney, i know, pls direct me to a channel where i can find info. pls dont direct me to #thunderbird, as no one is available
[01:08] <savlat007_> no i think its still there
[01:08] <AndChat440561> Can you guys see me? I'm not logged in with a registered nick.
[01:08] <squinty> modelengine:  you need to log onto the following server and then join the thunderbird channel  irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird
[01:08] <sydney> savlat007_: If you open gparted or "disks" do you see the win 8 partition?
[01:08] <Digipeng> hikenboot: heres a way http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[01:08] <modelengine> AndChat440561 can see yhou
[01:08] <Zangune> AndChat440561 hi, yes
[01:08] <AndChat440561> Thx
[01:08] <savlat007_> yes it is called local disk but i unmounted it
[01:08] <Zangune> AndChat440561 ;)
[01:09] <modelengine> squinty, how to>?
[01:09] <alturic> zykotick9: Well, I'm mainly forward thinking with if the NFS server hangs/needs to get rebooted for some other reason how to spot future problems before they actually exist in a production enviroment. :P
[01:09] <sydney> There isnt anyone on #thunderbird though.
[01:10] <sydney> savlat007_: hmm, not sure. keep waiting please ;)
[01:10] <savlat007_> k
[01:10] <squinty> modelengine:  click on hexchat's server list and then add the mozilla address. then connect to it and join thunderbird
[01:10] <thoonai> heyho, is there any possibillity that its possible to add global dns servers despite network-manager?
[01:10] <zykotick9> alturic: sorry, no other suggestion - good luck.  but ya, clients are gonna have issues if the NFS server disappears and they're connected...  hope you find a "faster" fix.
[01:11] <squinty> modelengine:  or use your web browser >  irc://irc.mozilla.org/thunderbird
[01:11] <somebody> sydney: Try ##thunderbird?
[01:11] <savlat007_> now?
[01:12] <modelengine> squinty, ah, i see tks
[01:12] <Zangune> sydney I found this https://addons.mozilla.org/it/thunderbird/addon/bigger-toolbar-buttons/
[01:12] <squinty> modelengine:  yw
[01:12] <Zangune> sydney typo :D
[01:13] <Zangune> modelengine I found this https://addons.mozilla.org/it/thunderbird/addon/bigger-toolbar-buttons/ maybe it will help you
[01:15] <modelengine> Zangune, tried but didn't work. tks for suggestion
[01:15] <mrkirby153> I have no idea what I did but suddenly mail is working
[01:15] <Zangune> modelengine sorry :) I hope you will find a solution :)
[01:16] <modelengine> Zangune, tks me too
[01:17] <Zangune> mrkirby153 great :D
[01:17] <modelengine> is there a way to be able to click on someone's tag and have it added to the type your text here bar so that i don't have to type their tag everytime?
[01:17] <mrkirby153> Now lets see if it persists past reboot
[01:17] <Zangune>  modelengine  like this?
[01:17] <zykotick9> !tab | modelengine
[01:18] <mrkirby153> Success!
[01:20] <Zangune> FrEaKi has serious connection problems
[01:20] <modelengine> so, do i click on someone's tag and then hit tab?
[01:20] <zykotick9> modelengine: now, try tying z-y-k and pressing tab type thing.
[01:21] <thoonai> how to tell network-manager global dns?
[01:22] <modelengine> ooooohhhhh...... thanks zykotick9
[01:22] <modelengine> so, i hopped over to #thunderbird on mozilla irc and this is what diddn't happen: http://imgur.com/S9yfmr8
[01:23] <Zangune> thoonai did you try this? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/227466
[01:24] <Zangune> modelengine you have to be patient :)
[01:25] <tremorcontrol> modelengine:BEPATIENT
[01:25] <zykotick9> modelengine: it's actually kinda funny, with my irssi inside tmux, i can still shift+double-click-mouse to highlight someone's nick to easily paste it... but i have zero idea what it'd do in your environment ;)
[01:26] <mrkirby153> This FTP server is so fast! Not used to it
[01:27] <thoonai> Zangune: this does not work really
[01:27] <squinty> zykotick9:  does the same as yours in hexchat here.  never knew about that before.. thanks for the tip
[01:27] <AR45> I'm not cool enough for irssi.
[01:28] <modelengine> Zangune, tremorcontrol, how is it that on here everyone answers in approx 30 sec but on mozilla irc they take 5-10 min to collaborate their thoughts? very frustrating. if i didnt want an answer for half an hour, i would post on a forum
[01:28] <AR45> modelengine, well the truth is.. no one has to help you..
[01:28] <tremorcontrol> AR45: thats what weechat is for. It's irssi for noobs, except its just as good as irssi
[01:28] <tremorcontrol> weird
[01:28] <modelengine> zykotick9, i got it figured with the tab thing, but thx
[01:28] <Zangune> modelengine because here you can find more people :P
[01:29] <tremorcontrol> modelengine: because its mozilla
[01:29] <Sachiru> Query: What NICs support VirtIO for KVM when using bridge-utils?
[01:29] <squinty> modelengine:  you will get that here on occasion too. and for that matter a great lot of other support channels.  please remember that participants are volunteers... if you want immediate results, then it's time to dig out your wallet.  :P
[01:29] <Sachiru> Besides the obvious "Intel"
[01:29] <AR45> tremorcontrol, eh.. I don't see the big fuss over irc clients.. I have bigger things to worry about
[01:30] <Zangune> thoonai both solutions? Strange
[01:30] <kgwgk> AR45: Smuxi!
[01:31] <modelengine> AR45, i realize that everyone's help is a gift freely given, all i am saying is that the ppl on mozilla irc dont seem too excited to help. look someone else wants help and all they do is sit there. if i were one of the 300 users on there, i would help ppl. http://imgur.com/Cez3GK3
[01:31] <somebody> modelengine: I heard very good things about commercial Ubuntu support, and they charge something like $100 annually.
[01:31] <tremorcontrol> Sachiru: check out #kvm
[01:32] <kgwgk> modelengine: wow
[01:32] <Zangune> modelengine if I read well setting a different theme may help you
[01:32] <thoonai> Zangune: thanks, Ill give up and retry tomorrow, thank you
[01:32] <Zangune> thoonai you are welcome :)
[01:32] <AR45> kgwgk, I only read this because it has GNOME notification integration lol
[01:32] <kgwgk> modelengine: are you running inside a VM ?
[01:33] <AR45> kgwgk, it runs in the terminal as well cool
[01:33] <modelengine> yes yes yes, i know i know, where else can i get free tech support from all the experts. I agree, you guys do it all for nothing and yet here i am complaining complaining. i'm just sayin that there are a lot of users on the right hand column in the mozilla channel and not one of them have lifted a finger. if i had the knowledge that you guys have, i would do just what you guys do, help people! it's just diff coming from here and
[01:33] <modelengine>  going to mozilla irc where they are not interested in support.
[01:34] <kgwgk> AR45: yeep
[01:34] <modelengine> what is the point of mozilla irc #thunderbird support if they don't support? just curious?
[01:34] <modelengine> sorry, not trying to sound ungrateful. am very greatful for all the help received today, and if it weren't for you guys here at #ubuntu, i would still be fumbling around.
[01:34] <squinty> modelengine:  you need to take the mozilla thunderbird chat to another channel
[01:36] <modelengine> squinty, ok. i'm done with the rant. sorry
[01:36] <cynicallemon> modelengine: welcome to open source support
[01:36] <kgwgk> modelengine: are you running native or VM? i had a problem on my macbook if i enabled retina 1:1 resolution in vmware workstation
[01:37] <squinty> modelengine:  you also might want to notice that there are over 1600 participants logged onto this channel but probably only 20 or so are answering questions.  :)  Anyway my turkey dinner is ready so I am off for now.   :)
[01:37] <kgwgk> nothing would scale well
[01:37] <modelengine> squinty, oh. didn't know that ....oops
[01:37] <kernel> n
[01:37] <modelengine> squinty, happy thanksgiving!
[01:37] <modelengine> kgwgk, native
[01:39] <kgwgk> modelengine: have you tried noodling around with gnome-tweak-tool ?
[01:40] <modelengine> got to go too. happy turkey dinner everyone!
[01:40] <Zangune> modelengine thanks :D
[01:40] <modelengine> kgwgk, not yet, but i will take your suggestion and run with it
[01:43] <AR45> Any good websites for watching movies?
[01:43] <AR45> Since Netflix can't run on Linux (like wth? lol)
[01:43] <kgwgk> AR45: youtube
[01:43] <AR45> :|
[01:43] <AR45> No movies on YT!
[01:43] <kgwgk> AR45: or actually, if you have enough beef you can run ie + silverlight in wine
[01:44] <kgwgk> AR45: actually, i'm going to try it right now...
[01:46] <squinty> so the following doesn't work either?  https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/10/10/watch-netflix-in-ubuntu-today/
[01:46] <Zangune>  AR45  did you try this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[01:46] <Zangune> lol
[01:47] <root> startx
[01:47] <root> hello
[01:47] <Zangune> Guest15900 hi
[01:47] <Guest15900> hi
[01:47] <xangua> !doesntwork | squinty
[01:48] <Guest15900> back track
[01:49] <squinty> xangua: no need for the !   quite obvious I was replying to the only discussion happening in the last 5 minutes.
[01:49] <owen1> i can disable the touchpad with 'synclient TouchpadOff=1'. how to only disable it while typing? ('preference' -> 'mouse & touchpad' didn't do anything)
[01:51] <Zangune> bye
[01:52] <diegoaguilar> Hello, how can I import a GPG key from an URL
[01:52] <diegoaguilar> ?
[01:52] <Sachiru> @diego: Import it where exactly?
[01:53] <Sachiru> There are many things that use a GPG key
[01:53] <diegoaguilar> I added a source to etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <xeoncore> Use apt-key
[01:53] <xeoncore> curl http://url.to/key | apt-key add -
[01:54] <camtron> Is there a way to make Ubuntu more stable than Windows Millenium Edition?
[01:55] <xeoncore> camtron: Thats a very open ended question...
[01:55] <xeoncore> diegoaguilar: You can use apt-key like this: curl https://url.to/key | apt-key add -
[01:56] <owen1> syndaemon -i 1 -K -d works!
[01:56] <camtron> I mean, how do people use Ubuntu with stuff breaking and crashing all the time?
[01:56] <diegoaguilar> thanks xeoncore
[01:56] <xeoncore> camtron: Depends what is breaking and crashing.
[01:57] <xeoncore> diegoaguilar: no problem
[02:04] <Lucifugo> HI
[02:08] <wangjw> 这里是做什么的啊
[02:08] <wangjw> 我是新来的
[02:08] <wangjw> 喜欢国产的系统
[02:08] <wangjw> 试了好多个
[02:08] <wangjw> 就深度好用了
[02:08] <wangjw> 呵呵，
[02:08] <wangjw> 这个东东不错
[02:08] <wangjw> 不过现在有一个问题
[02:09] <wangjw> 我们办公室里有一台电脑上的打印机是共享的，
[02:09] <wangjw> 但他是XP系统
[02:09] <wangjw> 我在这里可以看到他的打印机
[02:09] <wangjw> 就是不能用
[02:09] <wangjw> 没有驱动
[02:09] <wangjw> 怎么可以找到
[02:14] <neldogz> Just finished installing Ubuntu 14.0.4.1 LTS, I have 2, 1TB drives that I would like to use for data but i don't see an option to enable software raid. Is there a package that I need?
[02:16] <sjm> neldogz, mdadm?
[02:16] <neldogz> sjm, is mdadm the only option? I would hate to have to setup the raid via terminal
[02:17] <sjm> neldogz, sorry, that's what I use.  Don't know if there is more.
[02:17] <neldogz> sjm, thanks, I will give it a go
[02:20] <Surendil> night people
[02:27] <Digipeng> !raid
[02:28] <Digipeng> neldogz|!raid
[02:30] <neldogz> Digipeng, yes
[02:30] <neldogz> Digipeng, ever use webmin to administer mdadm ?
[02:32] <Digipeng> neldogz: never used that sorry
[02:32] <neldogz> Digipeng, do people generally just use mdadm?
[02:42] <excalibas> Hello, My ubuntu crashed and when I tried to reboot x wont start. I tried lots of things and ended up installing xubuntu 14.04 on another partition. It works until I install the nvidia drivers after this x wont start.
[02:43] <excalibas> Can this mean my graphics card is dying or it is just a driver problem?
[02:47] <Yrie> excalibas: you installed new driver and it won't start... -> likely a driver problem
[02:48] <Bashing-om> excalibas: How did you install the driver ? What card ? How old is the card ? Does Nvidia still support the card ? So yeah. likely a driver issue.
[02:49] <excalibas> I installed via settings/additional drivers. The card is old 8600. I think it is still suported
[02:50] <excalibas> I thought it was just the driver but when I made a clean install ox xubuntu 14.04 and it doesn't start x I start worrying
[02:51] <excalibas> I was using with xubuntu 12.04 since 2012 and never had problems before
[02:51] <excalibas> until it crashed (with lots of video glitches)
[02:52] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | excalibas Try this, and we then see about drivers:
[02:52] <forevertheuni> yo, I just added my fingerprints for login. Everything went fine. and at lightdm stage they were recognized and I had "log in" button. However the screen goes black with a message(I can't read because it's too fast) and then lightdm comes again
[02:52] <forevertheuni> only typed password works
[02:58] <dna113p> Hello. I am using lubuntu. I just installed nvidia-current for an older mobile nvidia gpu. AFter doing this, I have a really strange issue where google chrome follows me when I try to switch desktops in Lubuntu. Just the pixels come over to the other desktop pane and not the functionality. Somtimes it covers up the windows on the the other desktop panes until i minimize and open the window again. This problem doesn't occur with firefox or an
[02:58] <dna113p> y other programs... any idea what might be causing this issue and how I can trouble shoot it?
[03:00] <excalibas> Bashing-om, nomodeset doesnt work
[03:03] <excalibas> Bashing-om, GeForce 8600M GS
[03:04] <gnome-of-lawn> say i already have an existing installation of Ubuntu, but i want to reinstall it. I also have Windows 8 on the system. However, the installer fails to recognize the windows insallation and only gives options for installing alongside ubuntu and just overwriting the entire drive. What should i do so i don't lose my windows install?
[03:06] <excalibas> gnome-of-lawn, There should be an option (the last one I think) where you can chose where to install
[03:06] <Bashing-om> excalibas: ", nomodeset doesnt work "  does not tell us anything. What is the actual result ? can you get a GUI (degraded graphics is OK at this point !) .
[03:07] <excalibas> Bashing-om, sorry. it is the same result. a black screen with a blinking cursor at the top left
[03:07] <excalibas> Bashing-om, The same as without the nomodest
[03:08] <gnome-of-lawn> Yes, but it is difficult to differentiate between Ubuntu and Windows partitions. I don't want to destroy everything.
[03:10] <Bashing-om> excalibas: Unexpected result, to say the least. OK one other "test"; replace "quiet splash" in the boot parameter line rather than adding "nomoeset", key combo ctl+x to boot to terminal (TTY1) . yes ?
[03:10] <dna113p> gnome-of-lawn: "sudo fdisk -l" will give you info on what is on what partition
[03:11] <excalibas> Bashing-om, replace "quiet splash" with nomodeset?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> excalibas: Sorry .. replace "quiet splash" with the term "text" .. :)
[03:14] <sydney> Ok, so i have a fresh install of lubuntu. Well,when my monitor is told to shut off, my computer locks the screen,and only blanks the monitor. What am i doing wrong?
[03:17] <excalibas> Bashing-om, replacing "quiet splash" with "text" It starts
[03:17] <excalibas> Bashing-om, in text mode
[03:20] <Bashing-om> excalibas: Good ! a Conflict of drivers OR no driver loaded ? -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- and pass the resulting URL back to us inchannel.
[03:20] <shunya> !find libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0
[03:21] <KL4200> exporting proxy variables, but the system is not using them
[03:21] <shunya> thanks ubottu
[03:23] <excalibas> Bashing-om, http;//paste.ubuntu.com/8549914/
[03:24] <Bashing-om> excalibas: Look'n.
[03:29] <Bashing-om> excalibas: Good, but UnGood see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1310406 .
[03:32] <agent_white> Evenin' folks
[03:32] <excalibas> Bashing-om, So it is a bug? Is there a solution?
[03:35] <excalibas> Bashing-om, It is strange because it was working fine with 12.04 until yesterday
[03:37] <Bashing-om> excalibas: A bug .. Yes, no, maybe a solution, A quick look reveals that some had good results by upgrading bios .
[03:37] <excalibas> Bashing-om, I read this but is it the card bios?
[03:38] <Bashing-om> excalibas: I did not read thouroughly , maybe it is kust the kernels in trusty ? What kernel are you running ? maybe the new -37 kernel will run ?
[03:39] <Neldogz> hi everyone, does anyone know if fake-raid is supported in Ubuntu 14.04.1? Meaning, if i setup a Raid 1 on my motherboard bios will Ubuntu see it as 1 disk?
[03:39] <excalibas> Bashing-om, I have 3.13.0-37-generic
[03:40] <excalibas> Bashing-om, on the but report, #16 says it loads ok with 3.16 kernel?
[03:41] <Bashing-om> excalibas: bios is what starts the boot process - Basic Inpur Output system .. is the CMOS on the mother board.
[03:43] <excalibas> Bashing-om, So I should try to update the bios?
[03:43] <Bashing-om> excalibas: some were able .. try it and see what your results are // from the grub boot menu, choose the older kernel to boot .
[03:44] <excalibas> Bashing-om, But 3.16 is more recent than 3.13 right?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> excalibas: -16 lernel is real old .. net it is not on yoir system .. I would have to look around to confirm it is available.
[03:47] <Bashing-om> excalibas: IF it is 3.16 series then yes it is the more recent -- maybe; http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  .
[03:49] <excalibas> Bashing-om, I have a windos partition, I will try to update the bios, there is a link with some files on the bug report page I hope it doesnt kill the computer ;)
[03:50] <Neldogz> hi everyone, does anyone know if fake-raid is supported in Ubuntu 14.04.1? Meaning, if i setup a Raid 1 on my motherboard bios will Ubuntu see it as 1 disk?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> excalibas: Messing about with bios does entail a risk - if things do not go well .. BUT I know of nothing better to do . IF your bios is on a chip, and you are not in a hurry one can order a new bios chip and replace it !
[03:53] <germanpianista> hello
[03:53] <germanpianista> i just installed for the first time ubuntu studio
[03:55] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome, for studio specific help try #ubuntustudio
[04:00] <Neldogz> hi everyone, does anyone know if fake-raid is supported in Ubuntu 14.04.1? Meaning, if i setup a Raid 1 on my motherboard bios will Ubuntu see it as 1 disk?
[04:01] <KL4200> exporting proxy variables, but the system is not using them. piping env to grep shows me thay are set. i have tried restarting network-manager service. still not working
[04:01] <KL4200> Neldogz I am not sure, but i do not think linux, unix, in general do not acknowledge fake raid
[04:03] <Neldogz> KL4200, thanks, i know for example fedora 20 supports it.. I will test
[04:04] <excalibas> Bashing-om, f***. stupid windows didnt start, I just started the recovery partition and I get a big screen saying ERROR. I restart and I get a grub error...
[04:05] <excalibas> Bashing-om, It is too much for me today. It is 5 am here and I need to sleep. tomorow will try to fix this. Thanks for helping anyway. At least now I have hopes it is not the card
[04:06] <KL4200> Neldogz yeah not sure on 14.04 specific, just general experience with posix
[04:06] <excalibas> Good night all!
[04:06] <KL4200> interesting to know RH/fedora supports some
[04:07] <Bashing-om> excalibas: When it rains it pours // is Windows installed on the same hard drive as ubuntu ?
[04:07] <excalibas> Bashing-om, Yes, same hard drive :(
[04:07] <excalibas> Bashing-om, It probably erased the grub partition right?
[04:08] <Bashing-om> excalibas: Get some rest .. may take some time to fight this out.
[04:08] <excalibas> Bashing-om, I hope it is just that, will see tomorow. Thanks
[04:09] <Bashing-om> excalibas: if ubuntu still boots to terminal .. chances are then it is Windows boot code that is bad .
[04:19] <IrishWolfNYC> wow, always a lot of people in the ubuntu channel
[04:20] <IrishWolfNYC> o/
[04:20] <agent_white> \o
[04:35] <ronald_>  r0nz
[04:39] <cjh1022> I've burnt a ubuntu 14.04 iso to my flash drive and have tried booting off of it, but there is no direct usb boot option in my BIOS.
[04:43] <cfhowlett> !install | cjh1022,
[04:45] <Bashing-om> cjh1022: ^^^ maybe : 99.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] [22:29] [Bashing-om(+Zi)] [2:Freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcjnt)] [Act: 3,5,6,7]
[04:46] <Bashing-om> cjh1022: ^^bad paste maybe try http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/ ...
[04:51] <linocisco> hi
[04:52] <linocisco> ubuntu 14.04 LTS sucks on Acer Aspire 5750
[04:52] <cfhowlett> linocisco, if you say so ...
[04:52] <linocisco> why big file copying, others can't be done
[04:52] <linocisco> while big file copying, other jobs can't be done but machine has 8GB RAM
[04:53] <Digipeng> well do you use your ram as a hdd?
[04:53] <ObrienDave> hmm, how big of a file, i backup 200-300 GB everyday. no issues here
[04:53] <rww> sounds like I/O trouble
[04:54]  * rww looks up hard disk speed on that model
[04:54] <linocisco> Digipeng, no. RAM as RAM and HDD as HDD
[04:54]  * ObrienDave shoots google translate ;P
[04:54] <rww> 5400RPM hdd, figures
[04:54] <linocisco> ObrienDave, 293 GB of one Folder with 3 subfolders with movies inside. It was ok with Windows 7
[04:55] <ObrienDave> i have a 5400 HDD, never a speed issue either
[04:55] <cfhowlett> same here ...
[04:55] <ObrienDave> ok, 300GB takes me about an hour to transfer
[04:56] <ObrienDave> to 3TB Esata drive
[04:56] <linocisco> after i close the dialog boxes that freeze, a few miniutes later, i found internal ubuntu error box and disappear
[04:56] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, 5gb / minute?  not halfe bad.
[04:56] <linocisco> I did all apt-get update and upgrade before I started using it
[04:57] <linocisco> I honestly didn't remember what error
[04:57] <cfhowlett> linocisco, installing "it"?  what it?
[04:58] <ObrienDave> ok, doing a backup now, rsync to 3TB drive. lets see what i get
[04:58] <linocisco> cfhowlett, before I used that Acer laptop, I overrode all file system during ubuntu installation
[04:58] <cfhowlett> linocisco, so no /swap ... ?
[04:59] <linocisco> cfhowlett, full installation to use entire drive
[04:59] <linocisco> cfhowlett, I didn't choose manual installation
[05:05] <ObrienDave> ok, so far, 20GB file, 40-50 MB/s
[05:06] <root_____> what new feature in ubuntu 14.10?
[05:09] <ThatMoron> Quick question. If I write a bash/ sh script, how can I set it to auto-load in terminal via my .zshrc file, as opposed to opening a terminal, and calling it like through an alias with alias suchandsuch="path/to/script"?
[05:15] <equ1n0x> So what is this chat?
[05:16] <rww> equ1n0x: the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux
[05:16] <rww> ( see /topic )
[05:16] <equ1n0x> oh i see. xD ty
[05:19] <ronald_> quit
[05:22] <subhojit777> just asking.. is there any site for beginners where they can learn basic UNIX commands, and learn when and how to use them. like http://www.w3schools.com/ (for web), https://wildlyinaccurate.com/a-hackers-guide-to-git (for git)
[05:27] <Yrie> I got a menu?
[05:27] <Yrie> http://mally.stanford.edu/~sr/computing/basic-unix.html
[05:28]  * __unik hugs Yrie
[05:28] <nellbones> so many quit notices
[05:29] <ObrienDave> turn them off
[05:34] <Spydar007> Anyone know how to create a Debian virtual environment in Ubuntu?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Spydar007: install debian inside virtualbox?
[05:35] <Spydar007> i mean, on a server
[05:35] <ObrienDave> ask in #ubuntu-server
[05:36] <Spydar007> there's a program that only works on Debian, but my server has Ubuntu (and no, I can't just change it to Debian), someone told me you can run a Debian Virtual Environment through Ubuntu, how do I do this?
[05:36] <ObrienDave> ask in #ubuntu-server
[05:37] <tlepes> Question:  need help (lost gui) after installing kxstudio pkgs over mint 17 kde.  where do i go for help?  i have irssi (am xchat familiar); no gui, no gui browser
[05:38] <tlepes> how do i make the system re-select the x greeter?
[05:39] <tlepes> q
[05:39] <rww> ObrienDave: Ubuntu Server is on-topic for #ubuntu, I don't think it needs to be recommended more than once :P
[05:40]  * Spydar007 asked in #ubuntu-server anyway
[05:43] <agent_white> Spydar007:     pizza_pie = FactoryGirl.create(:table, name: "")
[05:43] <agent_white> eep
[05:43] <agent_white> Hahah
[05:43] <Spydar007> k
[05:43] <Spydar007> :P
[05:43] <agent_white> Spydar007: http://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line
[05:43] <agent_white> ^ Is that what you're looking for?
[05:43] <Spydar007> it's not a debian package
[05:43] <agent_white> Ohhh!
[05:44] <Spydar007> I need to run a Debian Virtual Environment in Ubuntu
[05:44] <Ben64> Spydar007: what program only works on debian? that doesn't make sense
[05:44] <Spydar007> Ben64: an IRC bot
[05:44] <rww> which IRC bot
[05:44] <Ben64> why wouldn't it work
[05:44] <agent_white> Spydar007: How do you know it only works on Debian? (Link to the project page of the bot, etc, is helpful)
[05:46] <Spydar007> i know it doesn't work on Ubuntu, I even asked the developer, and my friend couldn't get it working either
[05:48] <Ben64> Spydar007: well if you don't want to give us any information, have a good day
[05:48]  * Spydar007 thought he just did
[05:48] <Ben64> you really didn't
[05:48]  * Spydar007 sighs
[05:49] <Spydar007> https://dev.freenode.net/redmine/projects/eir
[05:50] <Chrometastic> Test
[05:51] <Chrometastic> Test
[05:51] <Chrometastic> Hello World!
[05:51] <agent_white> Chrometastic: ping!
[05:52] <Ben64> Chrometastic: please use #test or something for testing
[05:52] <Chrometastic> HEllo WORLD!
[05:52] <ObrienDave> seriously?
[05:52] <Chrometastic> TEST HELLO WORLD does anyone see this ,,,, if so respond ASAP
[05:52] <Flannel> Chrometastic: No.  Please stop that.
[05:54] <agent_white> Spydar007: So you followed https://dev.freenode.net/redmine/projects/eir/repository/revisions/3a609a6f812255cae5bb03d328f9d968cd09dea0/entry/README  ?
[05:54] <Spydar007> yes
[05:55] <Spydar007> When trying to run eir, using ./bin/eir, I get:
[05:55] <Spydar007> Aborting due to exception:
[05:55] <Spydar007> * /home/spydar007/eir/modules/storage/json.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4Json5Value4nullE (std::exception)
[05:55] <Spydar007> and I've asked the dev, he said it doesn't work on Ubuntu
[05:58] <Chrometastic> Hello, I am a noob at IRC, Can anyone tell me how to go to #reprap
[05:58] <Chrometastic> its on freenode
[05:58] <rww> Chrometastic: /join #reprap
[05:58] <agent_white> Chrometastic: "/join #reprap". Read your IRC client's documentation.
[05:58] <Chrometastic> in same place where i type chat
[05:59] <agent_white> Yes
[05:59] <Polyatomic> Support needed please. I installed Ubuntu 14 yesterday but the boot loader got installed to the wrong drive /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sdd1 I'm confused where I balls up. The OS is usable, but obviously I'm disappointed, if your familair with installing ubuntu on PCs with multiple drive can you please offer some adivce
[05:59] <Chrometastic> Thank you so much
[05:59] <Chrometastic> ill be back
[05:59] <Chrometastic> when i need help
[05:59] <Ben64> Chrometastic: this channel is for ubuntu help only, not general irc questions
[06:00] <rww> Chrometastic: what Ben64 is trying to say is that /join #freenode would probably get you more help if you have further questions :)
[06:00] <audiodude> How do I update the motd after removing scripts from /etc/update-motd.d/ ?
[06:00] <agent_white> Polyatomic: You set your computer to boot to a single drive. That drive should have the bootloader.
[06:01] <agent_white> Polyatomic: For instance, I multi-boot (Windows, Ubuntu) on two different drives. My bios boots to the Ubuntu HDD, which has grub that lets me choose to boot to either HDD.
[06:02] <agent_white> If that... helps? :P
[06:03] <agent_white> Polyatomic: Meaning, why did you want it on sdd1?  And why is it bad for it to be on sda1?
[06:04] <audiodude> I completely deleted one of the scripts from /etc/update-motd.d/ but its message still shows up when I ssh in
[06:04] <energizer> I want to change the color of my PDF annotations in Mendeley.
[06:04] <energizer> This isn't an option in the program, but might it be possible to do it through ubuntu's settings?
[06:05] <agent_white> audiodude: Have you run `update-motd` yet?
[06:06] <audiodude> agent_white: command not found?
[06:06] <agent_white> audiodude: Ahhh nevermind
[06:08] <agent_white> audiodude: `sudo run-parts /etc/update-motd.d`
[06:08] <audiodude> agent_white: very nice! thanks
[06:09] <agent_white> audiodude: Yup! That will also check for errors in those scripts.
[06:11] <Chrometastic> I am experiencing some strange ubuntu problems... does anyone know how to fix desktop artifacts
[06:11] <Chrometastic> i am on a imac
[06:14] <Polyatomic> agent_white: The installer put Ubuntus root on dev/sdd2 which is what I wanted but the bootloader was put in a directory called ubuntu on /dev/sda1 which is on another drive.
[06:17] <argha> hello...
[06:18] <argha> can any one tell me  how to upload a webpage  in github from local git repository?
[06:18] <argha> using git bash in windows  env
[06:18] <Abhijit> i added bash script to crontab. it does not execute it. bash script works. the bash scripts writes dns entry to /etc/resolv.conf i added /bin/bash script and still it do not work. i am using @reboot. help
[06:19] <rww> sounds like you should ask your actual question that's causing you to write a script to modify /etc/resolv.conf and put it in cron
[06:19] <argha> can any one tell me
[06:20] <xeoncore> argha: this is not the channel to ask it
[06:20] <Abhijit> rww, facebook, youtube do not load completely. they load like its 1995. they load completely only with google dns.
[06:20] <argha> then give me a link
[06:20] <Abhijit> rww, its just plain html. one line below other. all links only blue. only text. nothing else.
[06:20] <rww> argha: try ##windows or http://help.github.com/ , I guess
[06:21] <rww> Abhijit: okays. what are you using for network management? have you added Google DNS to there?
[06:21] <rww> NetworkManager, /etc/network/interfaces, wicd, etc.
[06:21] <Abhijit> rww, its pppoe. i am using standard NetworkManager for this. it only ask for my isp username and password. my isp do not need  anything else. cant add dns there.
[06:22] <Abhijit> rwp, wait. i think i can add dns in NetworkManager. wwill try that.
[06:23] <Abhijit> rww, ^
[06:23]  * rww nods
[06:23] <Blaster> Hello friends.
[06:24] <Blaster> How do you hide the clock?
[06:24] <Blaster> We don't want to see what time it is!
[06:24] <Abhijit> Blaster, Remove panel?
[06:25] <Blaster> Abhijit:  We only want to hide the time part.
[06:25] <Blaster> Not the entire top panel.
[06:25] <Blaster> Unity BTW.
[06:26] <Blaster> Abhijit:  We found a way.
[06:26] <squinty> right click on clock >
[06:27] <Blaster> You just uncheck, “Show a clock in the menu bar”, in the clock settings.
[06:35] <clark_> q
[06:35] <clark_> quit
[06:40] <Susning> Ubuntu (desktop/unity?) freezes now and then without any (for me) resonable pattern. It's only at a logged in stage (never at boot/logon). I can always solve it by doing CTRL-ALT-F2 and then go back with CTRL-ALT-F7 and then I'm back - so it's a solvable freeze but very annoying. As soon as I switch F2/F7 the freeze goes away. I
[06:41] <Susning> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 using Nvidia 331.38 - what to do?
[06:49] <shane84> join #haskell
[06:49] <shane84> sorry forgot to add a command /
[06:49] <jozefk> :)
[06:51] <sacarlson> I have a dual video screen system but sometimes would like some apps to start on the first screen, is there added command line that makes this posible?
[06:54] <sacarlson> I have now learned from trial and error that if I open a terminal first it always opens in screen 1 and seems firefox starts in the screen that the terminal is running in
[07:20] <sacarlson> I guess what I'm looking for is the way to change the default geometry of firefox like I can do in gnome-terminal --geometry 80x24+1600+200  opens it on my right screen where I want it
[07:22] <tterrag> ok so, I've tried to install ubuntu twice now on this macbook, every time I end up seeing strange rendering issues, mostly characters being all messed up. Is this a driver issue or perhaps a hardware issue? I've run a disk check multiple times with no errors found.
[07:22] <cfhowlett> tterrag, I'd guess a mac specific issue ...
[07:22] <tterrag> mhm
[07:23] <tterrag> I'm on a 2011(?) nvidia mac
[07:23] <sacarlson> tterrag: I would render to say it's probly the video driver,  maybe there is a propraitary one available?
[07:23] <tterrag> macbook pro
[07:23] <cfhowlett> tterrag, apple really does make it difficult to do things with their hardware ...
[07:23] <tterrag> sacarlson: I tried the proprietary on the last install and it went black after the loading screen :/
[07:23] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | tterrag,
[07:23] <tterrag> ooh
[07:23] <tterrag> that sounds like what I need
[07:24] <cfhowlett> tterrag, I assume you've consulted the mac installation wiki?
[07:24] <tterrag> mmh, didn't know there was such a thing
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !mac | tterrag
[07:26] <agent_white> Might wanna remove `rhgb quiet` from the kernel boot params as well.
[07:27] <gelos> Hi all, I have an ubuntu 12.04 server that is not connected to the internet (or any other ubuntu servers) I want to install the package vlan on it, without connecting it to the internet. Is there a solid method to it?
[07:27] <cfhowlett> gelos, yep.  wait 1
[07:27] <cfhowlett> http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html
[07:28] <cfhowlett> http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/06/howto-installing-ubuntu-packages.html
[07:28] <tterrag> cfhowlett / sacarlson: I should note that I am not dual booting
[07:28] <tterrag> fresh install
[07:29] <cfhowlett> tterrag, nice :)
[07:30] <Blackweb> I have a Ext3 Hard Drive mounted on my system and it seems like the read & write speed is really slow
[07:31] <Anuska> Hi, anyone know how i remove a password for .rar arhive?
[07:33] <gelos> Thank you cfhowlett
[07:33] <cfhowlett> gelos, happy2help
[07:33] <cfhowlett> Blackweb, ext4 is the default - and better than ext3
[07:34] <Blackweb> I updated the system and have 3 Data Drives that were ext3 -
[07:35] <Digipeng> why not ext4?
[07:35] <Blackweb> so left the data drives the same and just installed new system on system drive\
[07:35] <Blackweb> heres example from my fstab
[07:35] <Blackweb> UUID=9a969600-d76b-4437-ab88-1e703cc929c3 /media/DataBase  ext3 rw,auto,user,exec,async 0 0
[07:36] <Blackweb> Would any of those options be slowing it down??
[07:36] <Blackweb> Right now then I'm trying to transfer something with filezilla & if I send it to any drive mounted in /media then top speed is 500kbps
[07:36] <Digipeng> what type of externel hard drive are they?
[07:36] <Blackweb> Their internal drives
[07:37] <Blackweb> but If I tell filezilla to download to the actual system drive its over 2mbps
[07:38] <Blackweb> Would any of these options be effecting it (UUID=9a969600-d76b-4437-ab88-1e703cc929c3 /media/DataBase  ext3 rw,auto,user,exec,async 0 0)
[07:38] <Blackweb> That entry is in /etc/fstab
[07:40] <tterrag> cfhowlett: http://imgur.com/sNmwsNi.png any idea what's up?
[07:40] <tterrag> I should note that I'm working without a mouse pointer atm because that's what my mac felt like doing this startup
[07:40] <cfhowlett> tterrag, fair warning: not a mac user - hackintosh only
[07:41] <cfhowlett> tterrag, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                     might fix
[07:42] <tterrag> so many updates :P
[07:42] <cfhowlett> tterrag, you installed 14.04 not 14.04.1?
[07:43] <tterrag> tell you in a sec, pretty sure it was just 14.04
[07:43] <tterrag> still unpacking updates...
[07:46] <tterrag> cfhowlett: even after all that, still broken packages
[07:46] <tterrag> maybe I'll skip this step :P
[07:51] <tterrag> aha, after installing macfanctl it really reved up
[07:51] <tterrag> think it might have been a tad overheated
[08:09] <OERIAS> top vs htop
[08:11] <tterrag> so I tried enabling the nvidia proprietary drivers, using legacy this time, black screen (as expected). Got to low-graphics mode via grub recovery mode, still black screen. Anything I can do to get a command line with write access??
[08:13] <helmut_> hi
[08:13] <OERIAS> hallo helmut_
[08:14] <vishgarg> Hi, anybody know how to solve ubuntu openstack error while launching new instance "no valid hosts found"
[08:15] <vishgarg> anyone free to help?? =D :)
[08:17] <vishgarg> anybody online?
[08:18] <vishgarg> anyone there?
[08:21] <karanlyons> How can I upgrade OpenSSL to the latest version (1.0.1i) instead of the version in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (1.0.1f)? I'm trying to figure out the "nicest" way to do it, that'd make the latest version available to all other procs.
[08:26] <leaeasy> How to enable module force unloading in ubuntu 14.04?
[08:31] <Whir> Hello, I have serious performance issues on my ubuntu 12.04 machine here. Cpu is idle as normal, and I dont have any enormous network traffic..right now I am running a SMART test, but I wonder what else it could be ?
[08:31] <fearless_man> need help at mysql don't know it this is right
[08:31] <rtb> which atlas package should i install? there are libatlas-base-dev libatlas-dev libatlas3-base libatlas3gf-base
[08:31] <hateball> fearless_man: there is #mysql
[08:31] <fearless_man> kindly chect this http://pastebin.com/qUMTdnBD
[08:32] <fearless_man> ok thanks
[08:34] <ggherdov> Hi. I am running 14.04 on my desktop. Today I agreed to install some update, and now I don't have a login screen anymore (the graphical UI that appears after boot is complete asking for my user and password). Any hint ?
[08:34] <Yrie> Whir: what sort of performance issues?
[08:35] <karanlyons> How can I swap out the maintained OpenSSL package for something that's actually up to date without wrecking everything?
[08:35] <Whir> Yrie: lags in everything, from chaning browser tabs to opening terminals
[08:35] <Whir> *changing
[08:35] <karanlyons> I need the latest version of OpenSSL, but I need everything else that's relying on the packaged version to work with the latest.
[08:36] <Whir> Yrie: /home is via a NFS share, but internet connection is fine and the rest of the workgroup does not report any misbehavior
[08:37] <Whir> Yrie: I see this things in dmesg quite abundantly: "Mon Oct 13 10:34:22 2014] type=1701 audit(1413189263.657:801): auid=4294967295 uid=1001 gid=1001 ses=4294967295 pid=15606 comm="chromium-browse" reason="seccomp" sig=0 syscall=195 ip=0x3cd416 code=0x50001"
[08:37] <Whir> could that be sth ?
[08:39] <Yrie> Whir: I don't see why that would cause performance issues
[08:40] <vitimiti> Hi
[08:40] <Whir> Yrie: Ok, I am out of ideas basically :/
[08:40] <Yrie> Whir: what's the GPU load?
[08:42] <l34rn> how to set my password in channel on irssi?
[08:42] <Whir> Yrie: I check it..but I doubt it is the reason, even chaning directories in the terminal takes ages some time
[08:43] <Yrie> Whir: have you tried booting it up just from shell and test it?
[08:44] <Whir> Yrie: ok it is generally at 0% and when I change desktop it raises to sth like 7%
[08:44] <Yrie> that's an insignificant amount
[08:44] <Whir> Yrie: So I should boot in recovery root shell mode you mean ?
[08:44] <Yrie> Whir: ya, and see if normal operation still take ages
[08:45] <Yrie> Whir: if it does, then it's not a GUI-related problem, if it doesn't, we can probably say it's something else
[08:45] <Whir_> Yrie: sorry, firefox just crashed
[08:48] <Whir_> can someone pls kick the ghost Whir ?
[08:48] <Whir_> my browser crashed..
[08:49] <Yrie> Whir: no problem
[08:49] <Giwrgaras> anyone knows why my pc does not boot the ubuntu cd? its set on boot on cd
[08:49] <Giwrgaras> have you ever seen this problem before
[08:50] <Giwrgaras> win7 and i try to install a ubuntu 14.04
[08:50] <Whir> Yrie: ok, so I boot into root shell recovery mode and look if it also lags ?
[08:51] <Yrie> Whir: yup, because you have a really really strange problem on your hand that I highly suspect is due to graphical problems
[08:52] <Whir> Yrie: Ok I'll do it, and report back in like 5min
[08:53] <Whir> brb
[08:53] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: try again? double check in BIOS that it is set to boot to cd?
[08:53] <Yrie> Whir: okay
[08:53] <Giwrgaras> done that
[08:53] <Giwrgaras> have you ever seen such an issue before? or maybe the cd wasnt burnt right
[08:54] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: that would've been my next guess
[08:54] <Giwrgaras> if thats not the case what else could it be?
[08:54] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: can your computer read it on win 7?
[08:54] <Giwrgaras> yes
[08:54] <Giwrgaras> and it restarts in order to install it
[08:54] <Giwrgaras> its the official release from the ubuntu page
[08:55] <Yrie> send me the link?
[08:55] <Giwrgaras> and i installed it on my virtual drive..
[08:55] <Giwrgaras> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=14.04.1&architecture=amd64
[08:56] <Giwrgaras> oops sorry
[08:56] <Giwrgaras> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=GR&version=14.04.1&architecture=amd64
[08:56] <bitnumus> Hi can anyone help with USB printer error?   usb 2-1.8: device not accepting address 21, error -32
[08:57] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: it looks fine to me, the files on the cd is not a single .iso file, right?
[08:57] <Giwrgaras> no
[08:57] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: I really don't know what's wrong
[08:57] <Giwrgaras> ive mounted them first
[08:58] <Giwrgaras> ok ill try maybe its the cd
[08:58] <Yrie> wait, you mounted it first?
[08:58] <Giwrgaras> yes
[08:58] <Giwrgaras> its not an iso
[08:59] <Yrie> and then you restarted and told computer to boot from cd, but live cd won't start
[08:59] <Giwrgaras> yes
[08:59] <Yrie> UEFI?
[08:59] <mozzarella> guys
[08:59] <mozzarella> help
[08:59] <cfhowlett> !help | mozzarella
[08:59] <Giwrgaras> vefi?
[09:00] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:00] <mozzarella> if I download 14.10 right now (the beta/preview/whatever) and install it, will it let me update when the final release will come out?
[09:01] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: I hope that's what's wrong because after that, I don't know what could be wrong
[09:01] <DJones> mozzarella: Yes it will, if you've got any queries about 14.10, its better to ask in #ubuntu+1 until its released though
[09:01] <Giwrgaras> could you describe in a few words whats efi and vefi?
[09:01] <Giwrgaras> before i unistall and my windows by accident
[09:02] <Whir> Yrie: Ok, so I got an error stating sth like '/tmp is temporarilly not availble' at boot time, and the I switched in to manual recovery aka root shell..I experienced the same problems, for example an 'ls /etc' took around 5sec !
[09:02] <DavidHoldsTheKey> Hello
[09:03] <Whir> Yrie: but not all the time..so the lags appear 'randomly', also with that shell, there was no NIS/NFS active, so these are not the reason
[09:03] <Whir> Yrie: I am restarting the smart test
[09:03] <DavidHoldsTheKey> Im installing ubuntu on a bootable usb will documents and photos etc. store on the usb?
[09:03] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: don't worry, it can't uninstall windows
[09:04] <Yrie> Giwrgaras: efi is just a new standard they have to replace the old BIOS
[09:04] <Yrie> it's kinda lengthy and I don't want to explain
[09:04] <DavidHoldsTheKey> Im installing ubuntu on a bootable usb will documents and photos etc. store on the usb??
[09:04] <Giwrgaras> lol k
[09:05] <Giwrgaras> it matters only that it doesnt uninstall my win7
[09:05] <cfhowlett> DavidHoldsTheKey, only if you created storage space when you created the USB
[09:05] <DavidHoldsTheKey> What do you mean/
[09:05] <DavidHoldsTheKey> What do you mean?
[09:05] <Yrie> Whir: I have no idea what to do, someone a teensy bit smarter than me will have to help you
[09:06] <cfhowlett> DavidHoldsTheKey, if you don't know then you didn't.  make a new USB.  specify the amount of storage space available.
[09:06] <Whir> Yrie: allright, thanks for the effort !
[09:07] <Ubuntu-Owner> hey guys according to AstaraOS license , you all should close ubuntu in one week ... . Or you'r headshot
[09:07] <Ubuntu-Owner> ask you'r governor
[09:07] <Yrie> Whir: I suppose you can run a fsck
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Ubuntu-Owner, this is FUD.  Stop.
[09:07] <Yrie> Whir: but let us know what happens to your smart test
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Owner> hey guys according to AstaraOS license , you all should close ubuntu in one week ... . Or you'r headshot
[09:08] <Whir> Yrie: sure :]
[09:08] <cfhowlett> !ops | Ubuntu-Owner, FUD/spam
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Owner> you'r using it is you that got problem with it
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Owner> see ya
[09:08] <Ubuntu-Owner> that's  on behalf of 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team and All goverment
[09:09] <Mathisen> hmm ?
[09:15] <arcsky> how do i kill/close apparmor?
[09:19] <LTS14N00b> Hi All, other than being able to use more memory, is there an advantage of running the 64bit version instead of the 32?
[09:19] <geirha> LTS14N00b: the 32 bit version will eventually go away
[09:20] <LTS14N00b> geirha: Will the system update to the 64bit version on it's own or will I have to re-install?
[09:21] <Yrie> LTS14N00b: very likely reinstall
[09:21] <geirha> LTS14N00b: I don't know. Converting from 32 to 64 bit will be risky at best.
[09:21] <cfhowlett> LTS14N00b, nope.   reinstall.
[09:21] <Yrie> LTS14N00b: currently that's not possible
[09:22] <LTS14N00b> So basically, don't touch it until  I need to? :)
[09:23] <geirha> 32 bit will probably exist some years to come, but it's a long time now since anyone made 32 bit x86 CPUs, so it's becoming increasingly redundant
[09:26] <abbabbo> irc:///PapRiKa
[09:27] <LTS14N00b> Thanks!
[09:30] <Mathisen> anyone know of any good customer databse programs ?? need one for a computer store to manage customers + work done on the computers... is there any good out there ? web based would be optimal
[09:30] <Yrie> Mathisen: CMS?
[09:32] <LTS14N00b> I get a whole heap of "Failed to execute" errors when I boot my 14.04LTS system. How can I clear these errors (The system does boot up and appears to function correctly)?
[09:32] <Mathisen> Yrie yeah
[09:35] <geirha> Mathisen: Request Tracker perhaps
[09:37] <evil_dan2wik> If I copy erase everything in "/" on a computer and copy another computer's "/" to it, will it load up that ubuntu?
[09:37] <evil_dan2wik> or will there be a large panic attack?
[09:38] <Yrie> evil_dan2wik: why don't you just mount it instead of copy erase?
[09:39] <Yrie> evil_dan2wik: because what you are describing is very cringe-worthy
[09:39] <ggherdov> Hello. I run 14.04. I don't know how, but I ended up with a partition called "overflow", mounted on "/tmp", of 1M. Which is: I cannot put more than 1M of data into my /tmp folder. How is that ? I'd swear ubuntu did it all on his own
[09:40] <ikonia> ggherdov: it did not do it on it's own
[09:40] <ikonia> ggherdov: the best option is to boot from a live media cd such as the gparted CD - remove this partition (delete it)
[09:41] <ggherdov> ikonia: ok
[09:41] <ikonia> ggherdov: then boot into ubuntu and configure /tmp as you see fit
[09:41] <evil_dan2wik> Yrie, I have 2 VPS servers and I want to move 1 to the other because it took me 3 days to update it to 14.10
[09:41] <evil_dan2wik> no sorry, 14.04.1
[09:41] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: talk to your VPS provider about cloning
[09:41] <Ben64> ikonia, ggherdov: google says it happens when you fill up the root partition
[09:42] <ikonia> Ben64: ubuntu will create a partition and mount it on /tmp if you fill up / ?
[09:42] <Ben64> apparently
[09:42] <evil_dan2wik> ikonia, they will do it for $10
[09:42] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: there you go then, pay the %10
[09:42] <evil_dan2wik> I don't want to spend $10 on it if I can do it myself.
[09:42] <ikonia> $10
[09:42] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: you can't
[09:42] <ggherdov> Ben64: thanks, will check
[09:42] <evil_dan2wik> I can do it.
[09:42] <evil_dan2wik> Just watch me.
[09:42] <Ben64> i've never experienced it, and never heard of it, but supposedly you can unmount it and everything will fix itself
[09:42] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: ok, get on with it then
[09:42] <evil_dan2wik> now, tell me how to do it please.
[09:42] <Ben64> as long as there is free space now, i suppose
[09:42] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: you said you can do it
[09:42] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: get on with doing it
[09:43] <evil_dan2wik> no, please tell me how.
[09:43] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: you said you can do it
[09:43] <evil_dan2wik> if you tell me
[09:43] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: I've just told you - you can't, the work load to clone a machine across virtual guests is not realistic
[09:43] <ikonia> evil_dan2wik: it should be done at the hypervisor level
[09:43] <ikonia> hence why they charge you $10
[09:43] <ikonia> so pay the $10 and it will be done in minutes
[09:44] <Ben64> wait, why would it take three days to upgrade to 14.04
[09:44] <ikonia> it wouldn't
[09:44] <ikonia> unless it's a user error situation
[09:44] <Ben64> ok, that answers that
[09:44] <ikonia> hence why manually trying to clone VPS guests is a non-starter
[09:51] <Yrie> evil_dan2wik: since you cannot physically move the virtual drives, nor can you set it up with a bootup disk, I cannot really think of a good way of doing it
[09:51] <Yrie> evil_dan2wik: if you manage to have double the disk space (triple if you want to be safe) then sure, maybe
[09:52] <MMukherjee> What is the name of the pkg. of GNU make
[09:52] <Ben64> MMukherjee: "make"
[09:53] <MMukherjee> 'k
[09:53] <evil_dan2wik> Yrie, I am using 9GB out of 70GB
[09:55] <Yrie> evil_dan2wik: denoting A as the stuff you want, B as the old stuff you don't want, copy A over, Symlink OR copy B to have a backup copy B*, copy erase B with A, cross your finger =P
[09:56] <Yrie> I would suggest just backup the entire thing as an image before you do this insane operation that I think would fail, but um, ya, good luck =)
[09:58] <evil_dan2wik> The destination VPS can easily be re-installed with 2 clicks.
[09:58] <MMukherjee> What's the pkg. name for GCC ?
[10:00] <DaGuich> isn't it called gcc?
[10:00] <DaGuich> MMukherjee
[10:00] <MMukherjee> It isn't.
[10:01] <mozzarella> DJones: what kind of changes can I expect, from the current image to the final release
[10:01] <MMukherjee> Well, it is. Sorry.
[10:01] <DaGuich> MMukherjee: :D no problem
[10:03] <k1l> MMukherjee: you can use packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search in terminal for searching packages
[10:06] <MMukherjee> Okay, thanks!
[10:11] <Giwrgaras> anyone using postgres with ubuntu?
[10:12] <Giwrgaras> i try to load a file with the usual pg_dump commant and it says permission denied
[10:12] <Giwrgaras> how is the command in ubuntu with a pass?
[10:16] <geirha> sudo -u postgres pg_dump ...
[10:16] <Giwrgaras> yeah sure thing
[10:16] <Giwrgaras> not
[10:16] <geirha> Or you can set up certain other users to have passwordless access. It's explained in the postgresql docs
[10:19] <geirha> but sudo -u postgres pg_dump ... is what I do, anyway
[10:21] <Giwrgaras> then you type the path with '' or without them?
[10:22] <Giwrgaras> like '/home/user/Downloads/backup.sql'
[10:24] <geirha> Giwrgaras: doesn't matter. there are no special characters there, so shell quotes aren't needed
[10:26] <geirha> sudo -u postres pg_dump dbname > dbname_dump.sql
[10:32] <geirha> err ... typo left as an excercise
[10:33] <EriC^^> :P
[10:33] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I parse this into a database?  http://pastebin.com/k39ZVgfC
[10:36] <Yrie> Jeeves_Moss: like a csv but with tabs
[10:37] <somsip> Yrie: did you see the json in there?
[10:38] <geirha> Jeeves_Moss: Techincally, that IS a database
[10:40] <narcos> Hi all. I have a DigitalOcean Ubuntu 12.04 system, and need to run a graphical program on it. I've installed xorg, what else do I need to get ssh x forwarding to work?
[10:40] <narcos> Let's say, I just want to run xeyes
[10:40] <geirha> But I'm guessing you want to import it into a relational database of some sort, in which case you should consult its documentation on how to import from a csv/dsv file
[10:40] <somsip> Jeeves_Moss: I guess something from here might help you http://www.loc.gov/marc/marctools.html#toolslist
[10:42] <MrElendig> narcos: do NOT do X forwarding over the intertubes
[10:42] <geirha> narcos: well, you don't need xorg on it for that, but log in with   ssh -X user@host
[10:42] <Yrie> somsip: wow, no, thanks for pointing it out, I am half-asleep
[10:42] <MrElendig> narcos: use vnc or rdp
[10:42] <day> how can i check the current available packet version with apt?
[10:42] <narcos> MrElendig: It's just for one setup program that I need to run just once
[10:42] <MrElendig> why would you need X on a vps though?
[10:42] <somsip> Yrie: np. You're on your own after that though :)
[10:42] <MrElendig> narcos: no, it is never find
[10:42] <geirha> day: apt-cache policy packagename
[10:42] <MrElendig> fine*
[10:42] <day> geirha: <3
[10:43] <Yrie> somsip: it isn't even my data i need to convert XD
[10:43] <MrElendig> narcos: make a package of the software on your local machine then copy and install it on the vps
[10:43] <narcos> MrElendig: So I need to install an entire graphical desktop for this run-once..?
[10:43] <MrElendig> narcos: instead of runnign the gui crap on the bps
[10:43] <MrElendig> vps*
[10:43] <narcos> ahh
[10:43] <somsip> Yrie: I see. Anyway.
[10:43] <narcos> MrElendig: Yeah I guess that would work
[10:44] <MrElendig> narcos: if you run a different distro locally, just set up a chroot to build the package in
[10:44] <narcos> MrElendig: OK cool I'll try that, thank you
[10:45] <geirha> MrElendig: What's wrong with x-forwarding "over the intertubes"?
[10:45] <MrElendig> geirha: there are some security issues, also it is pretty much unusable if you have any form of latency
[10:47] <geirha> Haven't heard of these security issues before now. Anyway I took it as it was just a silly setup program that gives those silly next next next dialogs.
[10:57] <Giwrgaras> how do i import a file to my postgres in ubuntu? i type psql -f /tmp/backup.sql and it says FATAL: role "username" does not exit
[10:58] <IceBot3000> Giwrgaras: Read the PostgreSQL manual
[10:58] <Giwrgaras> ive read it and ive done in in windows here it says something about users that doesnt exist or somethign
[10:59] <ikonia> Giwrgaras: look at what geirha told you earlier
[11:01] <jpds> Giwrgaras: sudo -u postgres psql ...
[11:01] <jpds> Giwrgaras: Also, make sure you specify the DB name on the end or you'll shove the backup into your main cluster.
[11:02] <bigred15> Anyone here using btier?
[11:07] <tmick> I  am  coming  quoexl
[11:07] <Giwrgaras> yes that worked jpds thanks
[11:10] <brent> im currently using ubuntu 14.04 LTS desktop - my firefox no longer works. everything i click it it shows the loading icon for a few seconds and does nothing :( any ideas how i could make it work again? ive tried uninstalling and redownloading and it does the same thing.
[11:10] <brent> every time
[11:10] <ikonia> brent: re-downloading it ?
[11:10] <ikonia> brent: how did you do that ?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> brent, are you sure you're online and connencted?
[11:11] <brent> yea another browser works fine. ive removed it using ubuntu software center
[11:11] <argha_> can anybody tell me how to upload  a webpage from local repossitort to github?
[11:11] <tmick> Try chrome
[11:11] <ikonia> argha_: commit it to git
[11:11] <argha_> repository
[11:12] <brent> im usin chrome. i want firefox
[11:12] <argha_> ikonia I don't understand?
[11:12] <ikonia> argha_: how did you re-download it ?
[11:13] <ikonia> argha_: sorry - wrong person
[11:13] <argha_> which one?
[11:13] <ikonia> argha_: you need to have a git repo and you commit it to that git repo
[11:13] <argha_> actually I know the process but anyhw is not uploadin from git bash
[11:14] <MMukherjee> W0t?
[11:14] <ikonia> argha_: what comand are you using to commit ?
[11:14] <MMukherjee> I'm trying to edit rc.local
[11:14] <MMukherjee> But it says it's read-only! D:
[11:14] <argha_> can u tell me the A-Z process to upload a file into github from terminal in windows env?
[11:14] <MMukherjee> "Buffer is read only!
[11:14] <MMukherjee> "
[11:14] <tmick> email   to  firefox
[11:14] <ikonia> argha_: are you using ubuntu or windows ?
[11:15] <argha_> git origin push master
[11:15] <argha_> no,actually I use both
[11:15] <MMukherjee> Help me! D:
[11:15] <ikonia> argha_: are you using windows or ubuntu in this problem situation ?
[11:15] <argha_> windows
[11:16] <ikonia> argha_: ok - so that would be dealt with in ##windows
[11:16] <argha_> ya
[11:16] <ikonia> argha_: the git setup in windows is different than linux
[11:16] <ikonia> argha_: if you take it to ##windows they can help you set it up
[11:16] <bonyhoax> Hi, I have an issue with my wifi. I can connect to my local wifi networks, it works great. But after a while (maybe a few minutes, maybe an hour) it stops working. And if I disconnect for any reason, or if I put my laptop to sleep and wake it up, I can't reconnect anymore. The only option I found is to restart my laptop. I'm new on linux, so I don't know the tools to check the 'health' of my wifi configuration. Any help/advice/idea?
[11:16] <argha_> from where i will get  the help?
[11:17] <ikonia> argha_: the ##windows channel
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:17] <argha_> i search it a lot but is not working
[11:17] <ikonia> argha_: /join ##windows
[11:17] <argha_> ciuld you tell me the process in ubuntu?
[11:18] <ikonia> argha_: it's different as the client tools get setup differently
[11:18] <ikonia> hence join ##windows
[11:18] <MMukherjee> Meh.
[11:18] <argha_> just some link
[11:18] <MMukherjee> Help me!
[11:18] <ikonia> MMukherjee: please stop
[11:18] <cslab> how to change the grub picture in ubuntu??please help
[11:18] <ikonia> MMukherjee: ask you question and wait for a response
[11:18] <argha_> what's happened mmukharjee?
[11:18] <ikonia> cslab: there is a spash parameter that points at an image file
[11:18] <ikonia> cslab: use that parameter
[11:18] <MMukherjee> Meh, you can spell my Bengalee name D:
[11:19] <MMukherjee> rc.local is read-only
[11:19] <argha_> local means?
[11:19] <Craig-nibrt> Hi Ubuntu help, I'm having a user issue. We have had a workstation set up for our work and when connecting as a remote user there is a clash between my username and a username on the local machine. This is causing issues with my path and home directory management. Is there a way to safely remove the local user so that it will not interfere with my
[11:19] <Craig-nibrt> remote connection?
[11:19] <MMukherjee> It's a place where I can store the scripts which will be executed when the system starts up!
[11:20] <cslab> windows is better than ubuntu ??
[11:20] <MMukherjee> No.
[11:20] <MMukherjee> Ubuntu << better.
[11:20] <Giwrgaras> lol nice conversation
[11:21] <cfhowlett> cslab, make an ubuntu USB and test it yourself - for free.
[11:21] <tmick> Lol
[11:21] <tmick> No
[11:22] <MMukherjee> Ah, fixed it.
[11:23] <argha_> ya..you can save it in your home folder  with a extension sh and then open the terminal then type sh name .sh
[11:23] <cslab> what is spash parameter??
[11:24] <ikonia> cslab: a grub configuration parameter
[11:24] <argha_> mmukharjee
[11:24] <MMukherjee> Yup
[11:24] <cslab> ikonia, how to use it?
[11:24] <MMukherjee> I just needed to do sudo nano...
[11:24] <ikonia> cslab: you set it in the grub configuration to the image you want to use
[11:25] <cfhowlett> cslab, if you don't know what it is, why do you need it?
[11:25] <argha_> sudo nano?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | cslab
[11:27] <argha> madan
[11:28] <tmick> What
[11:30] <argha> mukharjee where r u why u r noot responding?
[11:31] <cslab> MMukherjee, kahan ho tum?
[11:31] <argha> jahape ho jaldi yahe pe a jao
[11:32] <argha> cslab could u tell me how to upload a file in github?
[11:34] <cslab> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9577968/how-to-upload-files-on-github,,,ye link ko try karo....
[11:35] <Giwrgaras> any shortcuts in ubuntu for window positions? like the win key + left/right in windows?
[11:36] <argha_> how do i enable the backspace key to go to a back page from the current page?
[11:37] <tmick> It  can
[11:37] <cslab> argha_, fom where??
[11:37] <__unik> hello. can someone tell me what these icons named http://www.hecticgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Xfce-4.10-desktop-screenshot.jpg
[11:37] <mokocha> @Giwrgaras, holding the windows button on the keyboard should bring up a window with basic key shortcuts
[11:37] <geirha> Giwrgaras: Same in unity
[11:38] <cslab> Giwrgaras, hold windows key for 5s
[11:38] <cslab> Giwrgaras, u will get all keyboard shortcuts
[11:44] <argha_> what iis giwrgaras  cslab?
[11:44] <cslab> argha_, SOME USERS NAME.
[11:45] <argha_> oh sorry
[11:45] <cslab> bye
[11:46] <Aamit> kadak dumma
[11:46] <argha_> what i was saying that now i opened a webpage now i wwant to go to the  previous page of that website by clicking inly backspace key
[11:46] <cfhowlett> __unik, ask #xfce
[11:46] <argha_> as we do in windows
[11:46] <__unik> cfhowlett: I found it Faenza
[11:47] <argha_> but it's noe workking in ubuntu?
[11:47] <argha_> what I have too do
[11:47] <argha_> can anybody tell me?
[11:48] <geirha> argha_: That would be specific to the web browser you use
[11:49] <argha_> i am using firefox
[11:50] <illegalviking> Considering setup of a Dedicated Gaming server and an Eggdrop, wondering if virtualization is the way to go and what distro is best for server use. feel free to enlighten me :)
[11:50] <ikonia> it really depends on the support of the game
[11:50] <illegalviking> games like rust, minecraft etc etc, nothing fancy, just something for my son
[11:51] <ikonia> both have fine support on ubuntu
[11:53] <alessandro_> p
[11:53] <illegalviking> should i then just use a standard distro like 14.04 or a ubuntu server distro, and what about running windows with software like virtualbox for the server?
[11:53] <ikonia> you won't get that choice if you're buying a virtual server
[11:53] <ikonia> you'll just get the OS pre-installed
[11:53] <mokocha> not sure what you guys are tlaking about exactly, but amazon servers let u choose the OS
[11:54] <illegalviking> i'm setting up a server in my own house, not purchasing
[11:54] <ikonia> oh I see
[11:54] <ikonia> then you can use whatever you feel comfortable with
[11:54] <ikonia> the most important thing is that you can use it
[11:54] <ikonia> so setup what you can use how you like it
[11:54] <illegalviking> so virtualization wont gimp my server?
[11:54] <mokocha> why do u need to run windows in the virtual box? what are you planning to use it for?
[11:54] <ikonia> illegalviking: depends on your hardware
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !gimp | illegalviking
[11:54] <illegalviking> multi use on one machine
[11:54] <ikonia> illegalviking: but it really shouldn't
[11:55] <mokocha> u might want to consider wine if it supports the apps you need
[11:55] <mokocha> !wine | illegalviking
[11:55] <ikonia> ignore wine
[11:55] <ikonia> wine should not be used as a dependable solution
[11:55] <illegalviking> ty for the answers :) really helped
[11:55] <ikonia> set it up how YOU feel best using it
[11:59] <mokocha> can someone help me out, I lost power during an installation, and now im getting: Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-36-generic). i have tried autoremove, but it didnt help
[11:59] <cfhowlett> mokocha, consider that installation broken and start over.  reinstall.
[12:00] <mokocha> that is a solution i was hoping to avoid, maybe repair grub might be worth a try?
[12:00] <cfhowlett> mokocha, you lost power DURING installation.  You trust this machine???
[12:00] <mokocha> its a laptop
[12:00] <cfhowlett> mokocha, ... and?
[12:00] <mokocha> installation of a software app, not the OS installation
[12:01] <mokocha> the system has been up and running for a few months now without problems
[12:01] <cfhowlett> mokocha, drop back a to an earlier kernel and do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:03] <mokocha> cfhowlett, thx, ill google a bit on how to do that.
[12:04] <muculus_> When I try to "sudo apt-get upgrade" some error has occured http://paste.ubuntu.com/8552028/  , I tried every solutions in forums and askubuntu, I don't know what should I do.
[12:04] <Rudj> hi, I did a fressh install of trusty desktop version the other day and the biggest problem i had from previous versions was gone...now it' back again. When I suspend the pc i have no network when awaken , must reatrt network-manager every time (desktop with wired conn)
[12:05] <Lucax> Hello, how to install samba for a unity beginner, I want to enable the personal file sharing but it seems little complicated
[12:07] <wehnerdd> hallo
[12:08] <hellojklfds> oh, my god.
[12:08] <hellojklfds> my first time talk use IRC
[12:09] <hellojklfds> hello
[12:10] <hellojklfds> why don't talk
[12:10] <hellojklfds> i want to know how to use mail list
[12:14] <lumia900> i have managed to get openLDAP installtion by was not sure how its to be configured internally
[12:14] <lumia900> any help based on open LDAP
[12:15] <lumia900> want to know how to create a samba user and have a samba groups to manage the file server
[12:15] <bigred15> openldap is a beast. Best to review the documentation on the openldap.org website
[12:15] <Adie> Is there any good way to kill my internet if/when my VPN disconnects?
[12:15] <lumia900> bigred15 omg ..
[12:16] <mokocha> @Adie, a bash script might do the trick, if it check for tun0 which is vpn, and if tun0 is not connected, the it can switch off your eth0 or wlan0
[12:16] <lumia900> just because of authenticated user as like windows domain i created this openLDAP
[12:16] <lumia900> will not be a good solution for me to get in openLDAP ?
[12:16] <mokocha> @Adie you'll have to look up how to write a bash script, and make yourself familiar with ifconfig to understand what's going on
[12:17] <bigred15> lumia900: there's a handful of guides around configuring openldap+ubuntu. http://is.gd/facS9Q
[12:18] <lumia900> bigred15 for now i have made through Degitaloceans Doc .. made the LDAP visible through phpadmin
[12:19] <lumia900> but that was little creapy to go further ...\
[12:19] <Giwrgaras> ??uefi
[12:19] <lumia900> also am trying the same to get through webmin ..
[12:19]  * lumia900 brb
[12:19] <bigred15> lumia900: Yeah, I set openldap + samba in 2007. I remember it being somehwat difficult.
[12:21] <unkn-error> hello
[12:21] <jfiosfnmjhw> welcome
[12:22] <unkn-error> I have a server
[12:22] <jfiosfnmjhw> oh
[12:22] <unkn-error> and I have accest to that server ONLY with ssh
[12:22] <jfiosfnmjhw> o
[12:22] <unkn-error> how can I start the grafical interface?
[12:22] <unkn-error> I need xfce / unity etc
[12:22] <unkn-error> do I need to install a vnc or something like that?
[12:23] <jfiosfnmjhw> maybe, I don't know
[12:23] <unkn-error> as I need to use GUI programs on the server
[12:23] <mokocha> unkn-error, ru connected now to your server?
[12:23] <unkn-error> yes
[12:23] <mokocha> unkn-error try typing "startx"
[12:23] <unkn-error> as a root
[12:23] <unkn-error> or with sudo
[12:23] <unkn-error> or simple?
[12:24] <mokocha> unkn-error, actually that would only work on a local machine now that i think about it. you can launch apps vie remote ssh, but u need to specify to load the X interface during your ssh session
[12:25] <unkn-error> hm
[12:26] <dfghjkll> How can I change the font size on desktop in ubuntu 14.04?????
[12:26] <mokocha> unkn-error, http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[12:27] <mokocha> unkn-error, if u can setup up xserver which is a window manager, then u can launch unity, which is a desktop manager
[12:27] <unkn-error> I will read the link now
[12:27] <Whir> dfghjkll: settings
[12:28] <home> Народ привет
[12:28] <Adie> Whir, that's not very helpful lol
[12:28] <k1l_> !ru | home
[12:28] <Whir> Adie: if you can read, it helps ;)
[12:29] <Adie> Whir, where in the "settings"?
[12:29] <Adie> Do you have to manually edit the theme files?
[12:29] <Whir> Adie: noo !
[12:29] <Adie> Cuz I'm not seeing anything that lets you change the font/size
[12:29] <Whir> Adie: which WM are you using ?
[12:29] <Adie> Well, this is #ubuntu
[12:29] <Adie> so... Unity?
[12:29] <Whir> Adie: ok, I am on xfce
[12:29] <Whir> Adie: just a sec
[12:30] <mokocha> Adie, you can install gnome tweak tool for extra unity settings, including fonts
[12:30] <Adie> dfghjkll, there you go
[12:30] <k1l_> mokocha: Adie its "unity-tweak-tool" now
[12:31] <Whir> Adie: sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[12:31] <Whir> ah, allright..thx k1l_
[12:41] <shookees> anyone using radeon hd6630m on 14.04?
[12:42] <k1l> shookees: maybe someone is using that.
[12:42] <muculus_> When I try to "sudo apt-get upgrade" some error has occured http://paste.ubuntu.com/8552028/  , I tried every solutions in forums and askubuntu, I don't know what should I do?
[12:42] <k1l> shookees: but do you have a real support question?
[12:42] <ankk> how can i install easy_install on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:43] <ankk> i looked for python-setuptools but there isn't those packages :s
[12:43] <shookees> k1l, what do you mean by -real support question-?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> ankk, 13.04 is unsupported  and end of life.  uupdgrade
[12:43] <cfhowlett> shookees, this is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu support questions.
[12:43] <ankk> how
[12:44] <k1l> shookees: you could sit and wait until one user with exact that card comes in here. or you could ask a real question, like if you have issues etc etc.
[12:44] <k1l> !upgrade | ankk
[12:44] <cfhowlett> ankk, download 14.04.1, make a USB, boot the USB and install
[12:45] <dfghjkll> how can I make mouse cursor smaller
[12:45] <k1l> muculus_: can you put "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" into a pastebin and show the link here?
[12:46] <dfghjkll> scale factor doesnt change mouse size
[12:46] <muculus_> k1l : moment
[12:47] <shookees> k1l, cfhowlett well this might be related to some radeon cards that are under the given circumstances. In my example, I manage to run only one combination of Ubuntu with radeon driver to have a fully supported graphical card. On the other hand the driver has its glitches within some gtk applications. Thus finding a compatible ubuntu and radeon driver couple is rather difficult
[12:48] <muculus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8552309/
[12:48] <muculus_> k1l
[12:48] <shookees> combinatorically, there might be an individual which managed to get a newer versions with a couple
[12:48] <shookees> thus I'm trying to find such through communities
[12:49] <cfhowlett> shookees, radeon is not well supported and is unlikely to become so.  AMD is FINALLY getting on the linux support wagon with their future releases.  Given a choice: nvidia is the safer option.
[12:49] <k1l> muculus_: ok and now please a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[12:50] <shookees> switching to nvidia with a laptop that is with amdish graphics card might be a big investment
[12:50] <k1l> muculus_: is there a reason you got a saucy repo in your sources.list? the last line?
[12:51] <muculus_> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8552318/
[12:51] <muculus_> k1l: because my grub has problem, then I isntall bppt-repaire, I think it added saucy in source.list
[12:52] <k1l> muculus_: remove that last line in there.
[12:53] <muculus_> k1l: just a moment
[12:54] <pbx> i've accidentally activated a UI mode i don't understand. the app i was in (thunderbird) went fullscreen, and alt-tab stopped working.  when i quit (via its little menu icon in the upper right) my next app came up... but same thing. i can't even see how to log out. what might i have done?  14.04 FWIW.
[12:54] <pbx> i am  trapped in xchat until i figure this out or force powerdown :)
[12:55] <muculus_> k1l: I remove it, then I execute "apt-get update" ,but when I execute "apt-get upgrade" error occurred again. :(
[12:55] <EriC^^> pbx: by force powerdown you mean alt+clt+f1 & sudo reboot right?
[12:55] <k1l> muculus_: try a "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:57] <Giwrgaras> seriously why is this crap not booting?!
[12:57] <Giwrgaras> i can perfectly boot from the windows dvd but it fails to see my 3rd ubuntu live cd
[12:57] <muculus_> k1l: I run "sudo apt-get -f install" but this error occurred, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8552348/
[12:57] <azizLIGHT> where do i change the brightness
[12:58] <k1l> muculus_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install memtest86+
[12:59] <azizLIGHT> i dont have any brightness setting to control inside all settings -0> brightness and lock
[12:59] <azizLIGHT> can i do it  in nvidia-settings? i cant find it in there either
[12:59] <muculus_> k1l: the problem solved, thank you :)
[13:00] <k1l> muculus_: np
[13:00] <pbx> EriC^^, or just holding the power button for 5 seconds
[13:01] <Rudj> hi, I did a fressh install of trusty desktop version the other day and the biggest problem i had from previous versions was gone...now it' back again. When I suspend the pc i have no network when awaken , must reatrt network-manager every time (desktop with wired conn)
[13:01] <EriC^^> pbx: ok, well use sudo reboot then
[13:01] <EriC^^> pbx: if you want you can alt+ctrl+f1 and type sudo service lightdm restart
[13:01] <EriC^^> the login screen should appear
[13:02] <EriC^^> your current session will be lost though
[13:02] <pbx> EriC^^, thanks. my main question is, what did i do? what is this mode even called?  disabled alt-tab seems counterproductive
[13:02] <pbx> i'm only able to switch apps via kupfer
[13:03] <azizLIGHT> what can i use to control screen brightness
[13:03] <azizLIGHT> since its not available in ubuntu settings for me for some reason
[13:03] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: your laptop should have a button for brightness
[13:03] <azizLIGHT> im not on a laptop
[13:05] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: you can open a terminal and type this echo 40 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[13:05] <EriC^^> cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness , will tell you the max brightness you can set
[13:06] <azizLIGHT> i dont have such a file
[13:07] <EriC^^> cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[13:07] <azizLIGHT> so /sys/class/backlight is empty
[13:07] <EriC^^> do you get something?
[13:07] <EriC^^> i see
[13:07] <azizLIGHT> i checked with sudo ls -laF /sys/class/backlight even
[13:08] <EriC^^> maybe that's why it doesn't work in settings too
[13:08] <azizLIGHT> yeah i guess
[13:08] <azizLIGHT> is there some software i can use to at least dim screen
[13:10] <whoever>  /msg MemoServ SEND the8thark test
[13:11] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: xbacklight , maybe?
[13:11] <EriC^^> !info xbacklight
[13:12] <EriC^^> that's a hardware solution, it's better
[13:13] <trkruzn> türk var mı?
[13:13] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work xrandr might work, but it's a software solution
[13:13] <EriC^^> man xrandr and type /brightness
[13:13] <k1l> !tr | trkruzn
[13:14] <trkruzn> thanks
[13:34] <minecraft> hi all
[13:43] <dzho> I have a Log Out notification as the top window obscuring underlying applications, but it does not respond to clicks, eg, on the circled-X-to-dismiss, nor on the lock icon, nor on the log out icon.  How can I get rid of this without something drastic like actually logging out or restarting?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> dzho, terminal: ps -x   look near the bottom of the list
[13:44] <dzho> cfhowlett: a bunch of bash instances, ssh, music player daemon . . . nothing obvious there that I see
[13:45] <cfhowlett> dzho, check process status for ?
[13:46] <dzho> cfhowlett: grepping for notif gives me paste.ubuntu.com/8552645
[13:47] <cfhowlett> dzho, kill -9 7634
[13:48] <dzho> cfhowlett: it dies with just -HUP but still no luck
[13:48] <dzho> I then killed 7111 but the notification persists
[13:48] <jnxd> I have just installed the UDTC on my computer and am installing andtoid studio through it. I just wanted to ask that in case something goes wrong, how do I uninstall android studio?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> dzho, sorry ... out of idea
[13:49] <lion> heya peeps
[13:50] <dzho> cfhowlett: thanks for the help all the same, I appreciate it.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> dzho, happy2help
[13:50] <lion> i am new to lubuntu can anyone teach me some commands
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !manual lion
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !manual| lion
[13:52] <lion> cfhowlett, thank you
[13:53] <lion> ubottu, thank you
[13:53] <nelson_> hi everyone, I have a Raid 1 array setup on fake raid that is accessible via Windows on a dual booted system that also has Ubuntu 14.04. Is it possible to access the fake raid from Ubuntu?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> lion, also:   www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[13:54] <enyc> nelson_: probably but I've preivously not succeded.  There is/was a linux fakeraid driver/tools of some form.
[13:54] <enyc> nelson_: I suspect the answer is 'depends upon the exact fakeraid' and I can't comment on that rleally.
[13:54] <enyc> nelson_: I ended up using a temporary windows install  to   copy everything off the   silly-sis-fakeraid  and then get rid of it =).
[13:55] <nelson_> enyc, thanks, i really would like to be able to use it
[13:55] <nelson_> enyc, mainly because i need the dual boot\
[13:55] <enyc> nelson_: well expect 'ymmv' -- it MAY be able to work for you
[13:55] <saruman> +i
[13:55] <enyc> nelson_: consider virtual-machines etc. instead of all the dualbuooting ;p
[13:57] <nelson_> enyc, i need the dual boot unfortunately to run certain games like battlefield 4
[13:57] <enyc> nelson_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:58] <enyc> nelson_: you can of course just get rid of the fakeraid, too
[13:58] <enyc> nelson_: no promises on the above...  You may find it worked in older ubuntu but not newer, who knows
[13:59] <lion> is lubuntu right for a netbook asus 701sd
[13:59] <cfhowlett> lion, probably
[13:59] <jnxd1> in case somebody replied to my question, please post it again. Something happened and I had to switch devices.
[14:00] <lion> cfhowlett, it had p preinstalled in it before
[14:00] <lion> cfhowlett, xp
[14:01] <lion> cfhowlett, it has a 7inch screen and getting it to all fit is a bit of an issue
[14:02] <cfhowlett> lion, download lubuntu.  make a usb.  boot usb. try/test lubuntu.
[14:02] <lion> cfhowlett, its already instaled thats my current os
[14:02] <cfhowlett> lion, should be about 6 gb required
[14:02] <cfhowlett> lion, so your question is ??? what?
[14:03] <lion> cfhowlett, is there anyway i can make things fit better on the screen
[14:04] <cfhowlett> lion, you can change resolution settings
[14:04] <lion> cfhowlett, how do i o that please
[14:04] <cfhowlett> lion, system > setting > display > resolution                if I'm not mistaken
[14:05] <jnxd1> lion, 7 inches is a tight fit. you might have to customize it a little
[14:06] <lion> jnxd1, yeah i know lol winxp was worse than useless it had a program to make it all fint installed but made everything stretch
[14:07] <cfhowlett> lion, you've got a nice science project / gift for the kids there.
[14:07] <jnxd1> what are the specs of your laptop? I'm looking for ram, screen resolution in particular
[14:08] <lion> cfhowlett, i bought it for 30 from ebay as a student netbook as my lastone was overheating and made teriible
[14:08] <Whir> so Yrie has gone, but for the recor the smart check did find nothing
[14:09] <lion> cfhowlett, also i cant find the path you said to get to the resoloution settions
[14:10] <cfhowlett> lion, you have display resolution settings.  search em out.  I'm actually on xubuntu so ... a bit different
[14:11] <lion> cfhowlett, ah found it now durrr lol i am utter noob at this
[14:11] <cfhowlett> lion, I knew you could do it!
[14:12] <lion> cfhowlett, ldxe lol it was under preferences
[14:12] <C399> Hi
[14:13] <C399> Could someone point me to the off-topic discussion
[14:13] <C399> thanks!
[14:13] <lion> cfhowlett, this is as big as i can make it but there is an option to make it smaller with plack border either side
[14:13] <lion> cfhowlett, black
[14:14] <cfhowlett> lion, can't help you there ... xubuntu not lubuntu ... not 7 inches either
[14:14] <jnxd1> lion, I think cfhowlett was suggesting you to reduce the resolution rather than increase it
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !ot |  C399
[14:18] <grimlock82> whats up guys..
[14:19] <Anuska> Hello, how i create a usb bootable using a .iso image?
[14:20] <k1l> Anuska: just dd the iso onto the usb-drive
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !usb | Anuska
[14:20] <jnxd1> Anuska, unetbootin, or pendrivelinux, if you are using Ubuntu already there's already a software installed
[14:21] <Anuska> cfhowlett, I try this program... but... when i select the iso... not apper in that field the .iso is 4gb
[14:21] <Anuska> let me try
[14:21] <Anuska> thanks kll
[14:23] <jnxd1> Anuska: what iso is that? 4 gb is huge.
[14:23] <Anuska> secret stuff :P
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Anuska, so it's not ubuntu
[14:24] <k1l> Anuska: well. if you want to dd it needs to be a ubuntu iso, that are hybrid isos. if it is something other that will not work
[14:24] <Anuska> aham,
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Anuska, don't know what you're trying to work with but there are no 4 gb ubuntu distros.  if it's not ubuntu, it's not supported here.
[14:25] <Anuska> cfhowlett, i ask about software not for iso!
[14:25] <Anuska> wtf!
[14:26] <Anuska> i ask about what software i need to use for create a boot usb! and you answer + others
[14:26] <cfhowlett> Anuska, you've already been told.  unetbootin
[14:26] <Anuska> thanks
[14:26] <Anuska> easy to use
[14:27] <_ramok1> hi
[14:27]  * Anuska ubuntu is the best
[14:31] <lion> cfhowlett, i know there is not much i can to
[14:33] <grumz> hello
[14:33] <neldogz> enyc, no luck
[14:34] <neldogz> Has anyone here successfully setup "fake raid" in ubuntu on a dual booted system?
[14:34] <jpds> !fakeraid
[14:37] <ramananda> hello guys I am new to IRC
[14:38] <lion> ramananda, welcome
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !ask | ramananda,
[14:38] <neldogz> ubottu, those links regarding the RAID didnt help unfortunately
[14:39] <jnxd1> how many of these !s are there?
[14:39] <somsip> !brain | jnxd1
[14:39] <ramananda> I m new to irc can anyone tell me how to use it?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> ramananda, you are using it.  ask your ubuntu questions
[14:40] <lion> i have one is ubuntu better than windows lol
[14:43] <pbx> ramananda, there are lots of good guides online.  once you've done a little reading, and checked out a few different channels (including test channels where you can try out commands) you'll feel right at home.  http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[14:43] <ramananda> thanx, pbx
[14:43] <lion> ramananda, if you want to reply to someone just type the persons name then the question
[14:44] <ramananda> lion, thanx
[14:44] <jimmy51v_> I'm looking to make a custom ubuntu installer that is a liveCD that boots, lets a user install on their machine, and installs various tools not normally included in ubuntu.
[14:44] <pbx> ramananda, you can join #irchelp too
[14:44] <jimmy51v_> any suggestions on where to start?  I've made a custom LiveCD before, but that was so the CD itself would boot and have tools i needed.
[14:45] <lion> ramananda, your welcome
[14:45] <cfhowlett> jimmy51v_, "reconstructor"  since remastersys in abandonware
[14:46] <OerHeks> !uck
[14:46] <lion> ubottu, uck sounds ucky
[14:47] <jimmy51v_> hehe
[14:47] <jimmy51v_> i'm looking for the finished installation to be custom, not just the liveCD environment.  looking up reconstructor now
[14:47] <ramananda> ubottu, nice reply
[14:47] <lion> !yolo
[14:48] <cfhowlett> jimmy51v_, uck is probably better than reconstructor
[14:48] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | lion, please
[14:49] <urielvigilant> i have lubuntu 14.01 on my laptop. I need to install windows vista side by side on it now. what are the right steps ?
[14:50] <jimmy51v_> reconstructor website redirects to shady ipad contest winner garbage.  i'll go with uck :)
[14:50] <xpl0iter> How can I start an app at the system start?
[14:50] <OerHeks> urielvigilant, install windows first, then ubuntu
[14:50] <urielvigilant> I need vista because i need update my nkia e63 phone. some alternatives for linux ?
[14:50] <xpl0iter> What I am trying to do is making a helloworld echo bashscript to show up
[14:50] <cfhowlett> urielvigilant, if you need vista (!), use vista.
[14:51] <urielvigilant> its just to update the phone
[14:52] <urielvigilant> someone told me to: reboot from usb pen , then creat a new partition , then reboot from lubuntu again and modyfy grub ? what i have to do on grub ?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | urielvigilant,
[14:53] <OerHeks> urielvigilant, that is why we suggest install vista first, then ubuntu
[14:53] <urielvigilant> but i will need to do all those things i made to my lubuntu
[14:54] <cfhowlett> urielvigilant, you are making little sense.  let's do it this way: 1.  do you have lubuntu installed now?
[14:54] <urielvigilant> drivers for scan, printer, wifi bcm 4311 configs, play dvd configs,
[14:54] <neldogz> has anyone here been able to access a fake raid from Ubuntu?
[14:54] <urielvigilant> theres some way to save thos thins to the new instalation ?
[14:54] <urielvigilant> 4g config . .
[14:54] <Ethos> how do we install Gnome 3.14 to 14.04
[14:55] <Ethos> howto will do
[14:55] <cfhowlett> urielvigilant, DO you have lubuntu installed?  (ignoring questions >>> ignored requests for help)
[14:55] <urielvigilant> yes i have
[14:55] <aditya> hey everyone i have a problem ... see i installed backbox on a dual boot windows
[14:55] <aditya> but now i cant see the grub loade
[14:55] <aditya> r*
[14:55] <OerHeks> urielvigilant, installing & updating vista takes a day, maybe 2, installing ubuntu takes a hour, maybe 2, with all those things you mentioned
[14:56] <cfhowlett> aditya, ask backbox for help.   not supported here.
[14:56] <aditya> alright thankx (y)
[14:56] <urielvigilant> maybe for an expert not for a newby like me
[14:56] <urielvigilant> i think i will do that
[14:57] <urielvigilant> exit
[14:57] <jnxd1> urielvigilant: do you remember how you got those drivers working?
[15:00] <KeksMan> hello
[15:00] <KeksMan> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop
[15:01] <KeksMan> And there is a problem which i didnt have on windows. I cant rest my second finger on the touchpad while using another finger to move the mouse pointer
[15:01] <KeksMan> :/
[15:01] <KeksMan> can anyone help?
[15:01] <jnxd1> KeksMan: congrats
[15:01] <jnxd1> in vanilla Ubuntu, there's an option in settings
[15:02] <jnxd1> go to mouse and touchpad
[15:02] <KeksMan> yeah im there right now
[15:02] <KeksMan> and then?
[15:02] <jnxd1> you can enable two finger scrolling
[15:02] <KeksMan> its already enabled
[15:03] <jnxd1> then it should work.
[15:03] <KeksMan> doesnt seem to work :(
[15:03] <jnxd1> there's a button there to test it.
[15:03] <jnxd1> does edge scrolling work when the box is unchecked?
[15:03] <Shangri-l> hi
[15:04] <KeksMan> hang on
[15:04] <jnxd1> this is probably a case of unavailable drivers
[15:04] <KeksMan> aww
[15:04] <KeksMan> hmm
[15:04] <B0bsF1sh> I've set my Ubuntu VM to boot to a text console. If I want a GUI, I run "sudo service lightdm start." That works fine. When I'm done, I want to go back to the text console, so I run "sudo service lightdm stop." That ends the GUI session, but I get a funky-looking black screen that's unusable (no GUI elements, will not take text commands, etc - looks like http://imgur.com/zMAI0Tt). Any tips to get back to a usable text console after shutting do
[15:04] <Finetundra> hello, i tried to install cedega but it removed everything except the most basic ubuntu packages. even after i reinstalled everything nothing seems to function properly and something is altering my typing at times.  anyone have an idea as to how to fix this?
[15:05] <jnxd1> or rather missing drivers
[15:05] <KeksMan> um
[15:06] <jnxd1> you might have to find the right ones. Google with details of the specs, particularly touchpad
[15:08] <jnxd1> B0bsF1sh: switch to tty1 with alt ctrl 1
[15:08] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, it removed your ubuntu?  and you authorized that?  Here's the fix:  purge cedega.  then sudo apt-apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:08] <cfhowlett> if your
[15:08] <cfhowlett> you're lucky
[15:09] <B0bsF1sh> jnxd1: I try that, but nothing happens with any of the virtual terminals
[15:09] <jnxd1> so you are able to switch? how do you know you're able to?
[15:10] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, it seems to have removed itself is the issue yet i still am having problems
[15:10] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, "seems to" ...
[15:10] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, too much guess work.  reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[15:10] <Shangri-l> B0bsF1sh, you mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop am i RIGHT ?
[15:10] <Shangri-l> Sorry for the caps
[15:11] <OerHeks> cedega is down for years now
[15:11] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, i have reinstalled a desktop gui, but as i said there seems to be something. and i said nothing about removing Anything
[15:11] <Finetundra> sorry, it
[15:12] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, "hello, i tried to install cedega but it removed everything except the most basic ubuntu packages"
[15:13] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, when i went to install it there was nothing stating that it'd be deleting things
[15:13] <B0bsF1sh> Shangri-l: What do you mean? I installed desktop, but now that I've got it configured mainly as a server, I set it to boot only to a text console (In /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" and GRUB_TERMINAL=console. In /etc/X11/default-display-manager : /bin/true and #/usr/sbin/lightdm. sudo update-grub.).  Now occasionally when I want to get into the GUI, I sudo service lightdm start. I just want to get BACK to the terminal when
[15:13] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop doesnt' install the gui.  it installs the default ubuntu OS metapackages
[15:13] <cryptic0> I am trying to install biolinux which is based on ubuntu on a dell poweredge server with usb bootable key.  The dell doesn't want to boot from it.
[15:13] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, can't help you with that ... Cedega should have warned you you.
[15:13] <cfhowlett> cryptic0, sorry, biolinux is not an ubuntu distro so not supported here.
[15:14] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, i've gotten everything back, but now random strings of text are being thirown in to things i type
[15:14] <cryptic0> cfhowlett: biolinux is built on Ubuntu 14.04
[15:14] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, reason: you said it deleted all but your basic OS.  if you want a working system, reinstall.
[15:14] <saruman> hello
[15:14] <Shangri-l> oh sorry I cannot help, I meant to post to cfhowlett
[15:15] <cfhowlett> !flavors | cryptic0, these are supported.  if it's not on this list of flavors, it is NOT a supported ubuntu distro
[15:15] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, can you paste a picture?
[15:15] <Guest48071> I just installed ubuntu server and the only user I have is the one I created
[15:15] <Guest48071> but I cant use sudo
[15:15] <cfhowlett> Shangri-l, EH???
[15:15] <Guest48071> it tells me that Im not in the sudoers file
[15:15] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, the blasted thing is in working order!, the issue is that lines of text are randomly appearing
[15:16] <Guest48071> how can I add a user to the sudoers file if Im not sudo??
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Guest48071, ls /home
[15:16] <Guest48071> sorry?
[15:16] <Shangri-l> cfhowlett, you typed apt- twice in the command you suggested, I was talking about that
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Guest48071, that'll show you the system users ...
[15:16] <Guest48071> its me
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Shangri-l, did I?  d'OH!
[15:16] <Guest48071> Im the only user
[15:16] <Shangri-l> lol
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Shangri-l, thanks the advising me.
[15:17] <Guest48071> but if I try to add a user it tells me that Im not in the sudoers file
[15:17] <Shangri-l> you're welcome
[15:17] <tgm4883> Guest48071: are you familiar with editing the sudoers file?
[15:17] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, no i'm not able to post a picture.
[15:17] <Guest48071> yes, but I cant
[15:17] <Guest48071> It tells me that I cant because my user is not in the sudoers file
[15:17] <cfhowlett> !paste | Finetundra
[15:17] <tgm4883> Guest48071: if you reboot and hit left shift during boot you will get to grub. From there, you can boot into recovery mode which is a root console
[15:18] <whoever> Guest48071: add your your to wheel
[15:18] <tgm4883> Guest48071: which then you just need to remount as rw and then you can edit what you need
[15:18] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, i don't have a picture.
[15:18] <tgm4883> Guest48071: but it's super odd that you weren't given sudo access
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Guest48071, agreed ^^^
[15:19] <Guest48071> I know its weird
[15:19] <Shangri-l> sure
[15:19] <Guest48071> thanks guys! I'll reboot now
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, do you get random characters only when typing?
[15:19] <tgm4883> Guest48071: it's weird enough that I would probably check the ISO against the MD5 and reinstall
[15:19] <tgm4883> against the known good MD5 hash that is
[15:20] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, yes. i'm in a live boot right now though, so it's not effecting me
[15:20] <Finetundra>       \]\
[15:20] <B0bsF1sh> Similar issues reported but no answers: http://askubuntu.com/questions/295772/sudo-service-lightdm-stop-will-go-into-a-blank-screen and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899400&s=190f9f8b01c04bfce2d65b567ddd3655
[15:21] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, if only while typing ... bad keyboard, bad kb connection, incorrect kb language setting ...
[15:22] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, if it was the keyboard why isn't it happening now?
[15:23] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, only happens while typing ... right?
[15:23] <sydney> Is there a way i can limit how much space deja-dup takes from my HD?
[15:24] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, yes.
[15:25] <cfhowlett> Finetundra, so if you're not typing then no randomization of characters ...
[15:26] <Finetundra> cfhowlett, yes
[15:26] <Sycrid> backuppc: anyone know why I'd get "unable to read 4 bytes error"
[15:28] <Finetundra> cfhowlett bye
[15:29] <neldogz> hello everyone, i hope this will help someone else. To access "fake raid" in Ubuntu don't install mdadm, you have to use dmraid
[15:30] <neldogz> 1) create your fake raid 2) format it NTFS in Windows 3) install dmraid in ubuntu and reboot
[15:30] <neldogz> done
[15:30] <neldogz> enyc, did you see that?
[15:38] <miceiken> How come when I do sudo su - USER my session gets all weird. It says $ instead of username@host: and I can't use stuff like tabs or up/down arrows
[15:42] <slowmc> miceiken : have you tried typing "bash" afterward ?
[15:42] <miceiken> ahh
[15:42] <miceiken> that did it, thanks slowmc
[15:42] <slowmc> welcome :)
[15:43] <Mountain_R> hi to everyone I would like to know if in your opinion is better to use Ubuntu + Kde or Kubuntu. In terms of stability and safety
[15:43] <jpds> Mountain_R: It's pretty much the same thing at the end of the day.
[15:45] <sydney> Its the same thing ;)
[15:45] <cfhowlett> Mountain_R, same same just a different look and feel.  why would the gui make a safety difference?  use what works for you.
[15:45] <k1l> Mountain_R: kubuntu got a different set of standard programs in comparison to a plain kde install onto a ubuntu. but its all the same securitywise
[15:46] <Mountain_R> thanks guys,  ubuntu team said that they will not support derivates anymore? is that true?
[15:46] <sydney> if you install KDE, it wont have all the default programs,but if you install Kubuntu-desktop it will install all the Ubuntu default Kubuntu programs...
[15:46] <k1l> Mountain_R: can you rephrase?
[15:47] <tgm4883> Mountain_R: define "support"
[15:47] <reisio> Mountain_R: don't think they ever did
[15:47] <reisio> there are "official" ubuntu distros and those that aren't
[15:47] <reisio> the official are ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and one or three others
[15:48] <k1l> !derivates
[15:48] <tgm4883> !flavors
[15:48] <tgm4883> k1l: technically they are referred to as flavors
[15:48] <sydney> ^ Those are all suported.
[15:48] <k1l> tgm4883: yes, i get always caught in that trap :)
[15:48]  * sydney tasty :P
[15:49] <tgm4883> sydney: well those are supported here, it still depends on your definition of supported. I don't believe you can call up canonical for support on anything but Ubuntu & Ubuntu Server
[15:49] <sydney> true, but all those get the major updates...
[15:49] <tgm4883> yes
[15:50] <sydney> Where stuff like bohdi and deepin and linux mint dont...directly.
[15:50] <cfhowlett> sydney, and those derivatives were *never* supported by canoncial
[15:51]  * sydney my point :)
[15:51] <philinux> http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/flavours
[15:52] <tgm4883> which all goes back to requesting more info from Mountain_R to see what he's actually talking about
[15:52] <Mountain_R> get it, I am saing this because I had problems with Kubuntu and seems it was just a kubuntu bug. Ubuntu support said didn't know what really it was so I was forced to ask to Xubuntu support channel....  but there were not good support
[15:53] <tgm4883> Mountain_R: uh, a few things. 1) What is this "Ubuntu support" that you are talking about, 2) why would they refer you to the xubuntu channel if you are using kubuntu?
[15:53] <Mountain_R> xubuntu sorry!
[15:54] <Mountain_R> ubuntu support chat* this chat can u see?????????
[15:54] <Mountain_R> this one u are writing XD
[15:54] <tgm4883> Mountain_R: I'd like to point out that there is also phone support you can call into
[15:54] <tgm4883> Mountain_R: as well as askubuntu and the ubuntu forums
[15:55] <Mountain_R> tgm4883, ok i was talking about chat support
[15:55] <bitzs> hi
[15:56] <B0bsF1sh> !Xubuntu
[15:56] <bitzs> testing with clearos gateway
[15:56] <B0bsF1sh> !Lubuntu
[15:56] <tgm4883> Mountain_R: well depending on what the issue was, it might have been xubuntu specific
[15:56] <Mountain_R> tgm4883, right
[15:58] <bitzs> hi
[15:58] <Shangri-l> hi bitzs
[15:58] <Mountain_R> thanks anyone guys, later
[15:58] <tgm4883> Mountain_R: so then to answer your other question, regarding this channel's support of flavors (not derivatives, as that is something else), then the answer is that they are still supported, but things that might be specific to that particular flavor are might be referred to that channel (as they have more familiarity with their flavor)
[15:58] <bitzs> www.youtube.com/8bitzs
[15:58] <tgm4883> Mountain_R: derivatives on the other hand, have never been supported
[15:59] <k1l> bitzs: advertising not allowed in here
[15:59] <Mountain_R> tgm4883, yes that's why I will be more happy to install Ubuntu + K or Xubuntu
[15:59] <Mountain_R> later
[16:00] <Shangri-l> you can have a perfectly working KDE or Xfce on a standard Ubuntu installation, too
[16:00] <Mountain_R> Ubuntu + Kde or Xfce*
[16:00] <Shangri-l> ok
[16:05] <nullbyte_> 3 days of 14.10 release
[16:06] <Shangri-l> nullbyte_,  I think I'll stay under LTS
[16:06] <nullbyte_> Shangri me too
[16:07] <Shangri-l> kewl
[16:11] <xubu> why isn't apparmor installed by default on xubuntu (14.04 LTS) ? Should I install it?
[16:14] <ubunfused> hi, is us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::* having trouble? I can't update or install packages
[16:14] <Guest80535> hello
[16:14] <Guest80535> the first time Ubuntu using
[16:15] <aj_> hi
[16:15] <aj_> welcome
[16:15] <xubu> ubunfused - just change the server you download your updates from
[16:15] <smart_developer> Hi -- I would like to know what is using my port 8080 on my system, since I am trying to start a service to use it, but I keep getting a "Could not bind to _______ : ______ after trying for 30 seconds."
[16:16] <smart_developer> Does anyone know how I can find out ?
[16:16] <OerHeks> ubunfused, what ubuntu version do you have? cat /etc/issues
[16:16] <EriC^^> smart_developer: lsof -i :<port>
[16:17] <ubunfused> OerHeks: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[16:18] <OerHeks> oke, then try to change mirror, but i wonder as it is up from here
[16:18] <smart_developer> EriC^^ : That command gave me this :
[16:18] <smart_developer> EriC^^ : [swift-user swift]# lsof -i:8080
[16:18] <smart_developer> COMMAND    PID  USER   FD   TYPE    DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
[16:18] <smart_developer> swift-pro 2528 swift    7u  IPv4 925978688      0t0  TCP :webcache (LISTEN)
[16:18] <smart_developer> swift-pro 2530 swift    7u  IPv4 925978688      0t0  TCP :webcache (LISTEN)
[16:18] <smart_developer> swift-pro 2531 swift    7u  IPv4 925978688      0t0  TCP :webcache (LISTEN)
[16:18] <smart_developer> swift-pro 2540 swift    7u  IPv4 925978688      0t0  TCP :webcache (LISTEN)
[16:18] <unopaste> smart_developer you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:19] <hylian> can I print locally from a document/picture/etc on a ssh'd machine elsewhere?
[16:20] <smart_developer> EriC^^ : How do I interpret that ?
[16:21] <smart_developer> EriC^^ : The output of "lsof -i:8080" --- http://paste.ubuntu.com/8553543/
[16:23] <smart_developer> EriC^^ : Do you know what those are ?
[16:24] <sogeking99> Hey guys. I put a uss drive containing my music but it does not appear to be showing up?
[16:25] <sogeking99> USB I mean
[16:26] <hylian> anyone print a document from a ssh'd machine to your local printer? I think i can so it with a command and CUPS, but...
[16:29] <sogeking99> Hey guys. I put a usb drive containing my music but it does not appear to be showing up?
[16:29] <EriC^^> sogeking99: open a terminal, type sudo parted -l
[16:29] <EriC^^> sogeking99: you could also check if the usb is being listed with lsusb
[16:29] <miceiken> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check.
[16:29] <miceiken> how do I fix this when using screen?
[16:29] <NullBot123> /names
[16:30] <EriC^^> NullBot123: whoever wrote you sucks
[16:32] <docmur> If you view the /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log, how do you find out where apache2 server is loading the web page from?  I know that it's not being loaded from my configured location, but it is being loaded on my server.
[16:33] <Guest15924> Can anyone help? We need this thread to get some attention. http://www.barco.com/en/mybarco/mysupport/productsupport/product-support-files/knowledgebase?productid=b21eda55-0837-4478-87f6-68d51b71e405&kbid=1191 So that they will get their fingers out of their B*** and release the driver. :)
[16:34] <sogeking99> EriC^^: Ok thanks. Apparently one of my USB's are broken...
[16:36] <Ajkthx> Guest15924: uses linux, understand it has less support for things in general, gets mad that something doesn't have support for a program
[16:36] <Ajkthx> ok.png.exe
[16:36] <jhutchins> sogeking99: What filesystem?  What format?  What kind of files is the music in?
[16:37] <Mnemonic> Ajkthx, Exactly!
[16:42] <jimmy51v_> !uck
[16:43] <reisio> rhymes with...
[16:45] <tgm4883> duck
[16:47] <reisio> :)
[16:51] <ubunfused> is us.archive.ubuntu.com slow for anyone else?
[16:51] <koibedand> Why is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-net-persistence.rules not honored in Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:52] <compdoc> did you change them?
[16:52] <compdoc> the file
[16:52] <koibedand> Yes
[16:52] <compdoc> whats it not doing
[16:53] <koibedand> It's bringing up the interfaces with the wrong mac address
[16:53] <Wulf> how can I disable the ducking network manager in ubuntu 14.04? In 12.04 I could create a file /etc/init/network-manager.override but in 14.04 it seems to get ignored.
[16:53] <koibedand> I.e. my .rules file contains: "SUBSYSTEM=="net", ATTR{address}=="fa:16:3e:e8:e0:b9, NAME="eth1", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*"" yet once I restart, ifconfig shows:  "eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr fa:16:3e:28:68:0b"
[16:54] <compdoc> koibedand, what did you change?
[16:55] <compdoc> in the rule
[16:55] <koibedand> I created the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-net-persistence.rules file with the rules I wanted
[16:56] <jimmyjr> !ops | help channel emergency
[16:56] <koibedand> compdoc, the rule file did not exist before I created it
[16:56] <LoRez> jimmyjr: really?
[16:56] <phunyguy> hi.
[16:56] <compdoc> I have a few 14.04 servers that created that rule file on their own
[16:57] <jimmyjr> ?
[16:57] <koibedand> Interesting
[16:57] <jimmyjr> it was a test
[16:57] <phunyguy> jimmyjr: please don't do that again
[16:57] <crystalmatrix> hi guys
[16:57] <jimmyjr> !ops | but i did
[16:57] <jimmyjr> yay
[16:58] <phunyguy> dangit fail
[16:58] <crystalmatrix> hi guys i need some help with my sound card, firewire maudio model 410. i install ffado and jack, but i cant install for playback,
[16:58] <OpenFerret> Hi all, I'm after some advice for my next project.  I'm going to install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell XPS 13 (9333).  But I want to enable secure boot and use the inbuilt TPM with LUKS for encryption.  However, I'm struggling to find any guides on the internet to help me along with the setup.  Has anyone done anything similar or know of any guides that have been written?  Many thanks!
[16:59] <Wulf> OpenFerret: what's "secure boot" good for?
[17:00] <reisio> consternation
[17:00] <compdoc> koibedand, your rule is slightly different and in a different order than the rules created by ubuntu. I wonder if that matter
[17:01] <koibedand> What do yours look like?
[17:02] <compdoc>  SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:00:00:00:00:00", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1"
[17:02] <crystalmatrix> hey guys i needsome help, please..  i was installed ffado and jack, but cant recogized the hardware external audio card firewire 410 maudio,
[17:02] <crystalmatrix> my system ubuntu studio 14.04
[17:03] <OpenFerret> Wulf:  I'm taking my inspiration from an article I found here:  https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/smartersecurity/entry/uefi_secure_boot_and_the_tpm_implementing_secure_boot_with_a_tpm27?lang=en
[17:05] <Wulf> OpenFerret: does it say "Why?" or only "How?" ;)
[17:06] <Lazik> What does Ubuntu use to display the rescue terminal in 14.04?
[17:06] <OpenFerret> Wulf:  Can you not humour me at all? ;-)
[17:06] <saruman> hi
[17:06] <Guest83920> Hello, I have a question about users
[17:07] <Wulf> Guest83920: oh dear. Users are the worst!
[17:07] <ertyui> hello
[17:07] <ertyui> there
[17:07] <ertyui> i got 3 machines on a LAN running on ubuntu
[17:07] <compdoc> congrats
[17:07] <Guest83920> I have 5 users in my linux server but when I try to log with samba from another computer, it will not let me connect as any user that is not the root user
[17:08] <Guest83920> any idea? do I need to add the users to a samba file or something?
[17:08] <ertyui> i made a mistake on editing vi /etc/sudoers files
[17:08] <Wulf> OpenFerret: sorry, can't answer your question. I fail to see any benefit of this `tpm' so I don't know how to use it either.
[17:08] <ertyui> on a pc
[17:08] <ertyui> so i can't switch to root
[17:08] <compdoc> Guest83920, sounds like a smb.conf problem, or a permissions problem on the directory
[17:08] <OpenFerret> Wulf:  No worries, I will take my search else where.  Have a great day bud!
[17:09] <Guest83920> ok, how do I conf samba?
[17:09] <Guest83920> is there a conf file?
[17:09] <ertyui> and my question is it possible to do something like vi pc2:/etc/sudoers from pc1 ?
[17:09] <Wulf> ertyui: no.
[17:09] <compdoc> Guest83920, in /etc/samba
[17:09] <ertyui>  to modify the sudoers file from an other pc ?
[17:09] <ertyui> so what i can do ?
[17:09] <tgm4883> !recovery
[17:10] <tgm4883> ertyui: ^
[17:10] <ertyui> there is no quesiton to reboot the pc
[17:10] <ertyui> i would like to do it without rebootng
[17:10] <tgm4883> ertyui: you cant
[17:10] <squinty> Guest83920: sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[17:10] <koibedand> compdoc, I was missing a quote after the hwaddress, I think this resolved the issue...Now to figure out why the 70-persistent-net.rules file isn't being generated on reboot
[17:11] <Guest83920> I have samba installed, squinty
[17:11] <ertyui> why i can't ?
[17:11] <ertyui> there are all on a same LAN
[17:11] <Guest83920> I just cant log from a pc with a user that isnt root
[17:11] <compdoc> koibedand, cool
[17:11] <ertyui> why i can't mount the pc2  /etc on pc1 to edit the sudoers file ?
[17:11] <tgm4883> ertyui: root doesn't have a password, so you cannot just su to root. Since you blew up sudoers, that means that any user that would be able to sudo won't work.
[17:12] <tgm4883> ertyui: and how do you propose to mount /etc with write permissions on another PC?
[17:12] <squinty> Guest83920: afaik system-config-samba is not part of the default samba install... need to install after.   anyways good luck :)
[17:13] <Guest83920> thanks, squinty
[17:13] <ertyui> i tried this one : mount pc2:/etc /mnt/pc2file/
[17:13] <ertyui> but i got this error : [tcp] pc2:/etc: Permission denied
[17:13] <tgm4883> ertyui: exactly :)
[17:13] <crystalmatrix> i have some issues with my sound card  external
[17:13] <ertyui> why ?
[17:14] <tgm4883> ertyui: seriously?
[17:14] <ertyui> yes seriously i got that error :
[17:14] <tgm4883> ertyui: because it would be a huge security hole if you could just mount the root partition as RW over the network for anyone to edit
[17:15] <ertyui> why i got this error : Permission denied
[17:15] <ertyui> insstead of operation wrong ?
[17:15] <tgm4883> ertyui: because you don't have permission to mount it?
[17:15] <ertyui> so it could be possible ?
[17:16] <tgm4883> ertyui: because it's not shared out over the network
[17:16] <ertyui> so what is the solution to troubleshoot it ?
[17:16] <compdoc> koibedand, these commands might help:    http://pastebin.com/LejdhjwC
[17:16] <tgm4883> ertyui: if you are asking if it's technically possible to do what you are asking, then yes it is. If you are asking if it's technically possible for you to do what you are asking in the current state of that system, then no it is not
[17:17] <koibedand> compdoc, yeah i'm aware, i was just hoping i could get the rules file generated upon reboot automatically as rhel/sles does
[17:17] <tgm4883> ertyui: you won't be able to edit that over the network unless you already have root access on the machine, simply because currently you don't have rigths to edit the files you need to share that directory
[17:17] <compdoc> normally, it does
[17:18] <ertyui> ok good but i removed all root priviliges on pc2
[17:18] <koibedand> yeah it is possible the image I am using disabled it somehow...trying to figure out what the image creator did :)
[17:19] <tgm4883> ertyui: I know, which is why you have to fix it in recovery mode
[17:19] <compdoc> koibedand, I install Ubutnu Server, and then a minimal desktop (usually Mate). Maybe thats why mine populates  70-persistent-net.rules
[17:19] <ertyui> well then how it works on recovery mode ?
[17:20] <koibedand> compdoc, mind pastebinning the contents of /lib/udev/rules.d/75-net-persistence.rules for me?
[17:20] <tgm4883> ertyui: it boots the machine into single user mode, which is a root console
[17:20] <ertyui> ok
[17:20] <ertyui> get
[17:21] <ertyui> thanks
[17:21] <compdoc> koibedand:    cat: /lib/udev/rules.d/75-net-persistence.rules: No such file or directory
[17:22] <koibedand> interesting, what does `/lib/udev/rules.d/` output?  is there any net-persistence.rules file?
[17:22] <compdoc> 75-persistent-net-generator.rules  ?
[17:22] <koibedand> woops forgot the `ls`
[17:23] <compdoc> just 75-persistent-net-generator.rules
[17:24] <koibedand> yeah that's what i meant, sorry.  can you pastebin the contents of that file?
[17:24] <prasad> hi
[17:25] <Aamit> hi
[17:25] <ObrienDave> prasad, Greetings & Welcome
[17:25] <prasad> thanks obrien
[17:25] <prasad> :)
[17:25] <ObrienDave> Aamit, Greetings & Welcome
[17:25] <prasad> aamit
[17:25] <Aamit> Thanks :)
[17:25] <prasad> you from India?
[17:25] <Aamit> yes :)
[17:25] <Aamit> pune
[17:25] <prasad> me too
[17:25] <Aamit> :)
[17:25] <prasad> im from Kerala
[17:25] <Aamit> gr888
[17:26] <Aamit> m from maharashtra only..
[17:26] <indian> i am from karnataka
[17:26] <prasad> here we can ask for help in ubuntu?
[17:26] <indian> yes
[17:26] <Aamit> cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:26] <prasad> oh. i see indian :)
[17:27] <compdoc> koibedand, http://pastebin.com/EzPcBtFB
[17:28] <compdoc> have to go to the store - bbiab
[17:28] <koibedand> ty compdoc
[17:28] <indian> Error mounting /dev/sda7 at /media/kaushal/Natsu: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda7" "/media/kaushal/Natsu"' exited with non-zero exit status 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[17:28] <indian> Failed to mount '/dev/sda7': Input/output error
[17:28] <indian> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[17:28] <indian> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[17:28] <indian> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[17:28] <indian> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
[17:28] <unopaste> indian you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:29] <lopliok> hello
[17:29] <Giwrgaras> is it true that ubuntu spies on you?
[17:29] <Giwrgaras> collects statistics with ip and stuff?
[17:29] <prasad> really? Giwrgaras?? :)
[17:29] <prasad> :O
[17:29] <tgm4883> Giwrgaras: no
[17:29] <indian> Giwrgaras, zeitgeist does
[17:29] <prasad> where did you heard that?
[17:29] <ObrienDave> Giwrgaras, not exactly spies on you
[17:29] <reisio> Giwrgaras: doesn't do that anymore, IIRC
[17:29] <Giwrgaras> lol internet sites
[17:30] <tgm4883> indian: does that upload it anywhere though? I thought that was just for local use?
[17:30] <Giwrgaras> you know what you type on the market place or what is that
[17:30] <Guest65444> hi guys I have to install Ubuntu but there s a problem. I wanna install it in a logical partition previously used but it says>
[17:30] <prasad> using tor browser gives absolute anonymity????
[17:30] <indian> tgm4883, no doesnt but some people classify it as spy
[17:31] <tgm4883> indian: which is dumb IMO, but OT
[17:31] <Guest65444> no root system is defined.  what this means
[17:31] <ObrienDave> prasad, NOTHING gives you 100% anonymity
[17:31] <tgm4883> Guest65444: it sounds like you didn't install / anywhere
[17:31] <prasad> but tor gives much na
[17:31] <ObrienDave> Guest65444, you need to set the partition to mount as /
[17:32] <Guest65444> yes I know but in the installation program ov ubuntu 14 04 01 i cant see it
[17:32] <dward> when I install linux-image-extra with apt-get there is a package configuration screen that asks me to pick from some options regarding making modifications to my grub config. is there an easy way to automate my choice?
[17:32] <Guest65444> the dash sign
[17:33] <indian> I have an error in mounting my filesystem ....Someone help me..
[17:33] <tgm4883> Guest65444: I don't follow
[17:33] <prasad> why there is not much game with high graphics in ubuntu
[17:33] <tgm4883> prasad: not a support question
[17:33] <tgm4883> indian: what error?
[17:33] <prasad> ok ok :D
[17:33] <indian> Error mounting /dev/sda7 at /media/kaushal/Natsu: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda7" "/media/kaushal/Natsu"' exited with non-zero exit status 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[17:34] <indian> tgm4883, Failed to mount '/dev/sda7': Input/output error
[17:34] <indian> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[17:34] <indian> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[17:34] <indian> then reboot into Windows twice.
[17:34] <ObrienDave> indian, that tells you what is wrong and how to fix it
[17:34] <koibedand> compdoc, pasted your file into mine, did a reboot, still didn't generate the rules file, weird
[17:34] <indian> ObrienDave, it dint help..
[17:35] <prasad> can we install older versions of python alongside basic version in ubuntu 12.04
[17:36] <indian> ObrienDave, The usage of the /f parameter is very
[17:36] <indian> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
[17:36] <indian> it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
[17:36] <indian> /dev/mapper/nvidia_eahaabcc1). Please see the 'dmraid' documentation
[17:36] <indian> for more details.
[17:36] <tgm4883> !pastebin | indian
[17:36] <indian> ObrienDave, tgm4883 this is the error
[17:36] <prasad> can we install older versions of python alongside basic version in ubuntu 12.04
[17:37] <tgm4883> !patience | prasad
[17:37] <prasad> :)
[17:37] <ObrienDave> indian, is this an external USB drive?
[17:37] <tgm4883> prasad: that said, you can manually install whatever you want
[17:37] <indian> ObrienDave, nope
[17:38] <indian> ObrienDave, partition
[17:41] <Aamit> Man my box restarts sometimes.... Maybe due to NVIDIA  card... ubuntu 14.04 any ideas?
[17:42] <indian> ObrienDave, any solution?
[17:42] <reisio> Aamit: check your cat
[17:42] <Aamit> reisio, I did not get the same...
[17:43] <Aamit> M using NVIDIA optimus card.
[17:43] <ObrienDave> indian, in windows, what drive letter does that partition mount as?
[17:44] <Aamit> no logs are reflicted.. :(
[17:44] <indian> ObrienDave, i think F
[17:44] <ObrienDave> do you have a recent backup?
[17:44] <indian> nope
[17:45] <Aamit> in /var/log no logs are recorded for restart
[17:45] <indian> ObrienDave, nope
[17:45] <Aamit> reisio, Any idea?
[17:45] <blackthor> how can you explain this:  booting from a (broken) raid works until it hangs somewhere deeper in the ext4fs errors ;  but booting in rescue mode (from TFTP), sees the raid controller but doesn't see the partitions.  any hints?
[17:46] <ObrienDave> indian, make one FIRST, then in windows cmd window, chkdsk F: /x
[17:46] <kris_> hello
[17:46] <edsage> quit
[17:46] <indian> ObrienDave, its perfect in windows....
[17:47] <ObrienDave> indian, do you have ntfs-tools installed?
[17:47] <indian> ObrienDave, i think no
[17:48] <reisio> Aamit: hrmm?
[17:48] <kris_> hello everyone, my lubuntu 14.04 freezes often, my system configaration is 2 gb RAM, 500 GB hardrive, AMD dual core, any guesses why?
[17:49] <ObrienDave> !info ntfs-tools
[17:50] <ObrienDave> hmmmmm
[17:50] <indian> package not foung
[17:50] <indian> found
[17:51] <Aamit> kris, u hav Nvidia card?
[17:51] <sjm> kris_, sounds like an older system.  Are  you sure there aren't hardware issues?  memcheck86, HD checks, could also be power supply related.  Otherwise could be lack of memory.  What programs are you running?
[17:51] <indian> ObrienDave, i will ask cfhowlett
[17:51] <Aamit> nvidia in linux really sucksss :(
[17:52] <Haswell> ObrienDave, what ntfs-tools? ntfs.mount for example?
[17:52] <kris_> hey sjm, yes my PC is a bit old (6 years old) and programs, the default ones which lubuntu 14 offers. and by the way, ,lubuntu is installed in my harddrive, not virtual box
[17:53] <impi> hey guys
[17:53] <hans_> hi guys
[17:53] <impi> ubuntu 14.04  - 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu my fan is not working at all
[17:53] <hans_> are there people whit sickbeard skills
[17:53] <Haswell> s/ntfs.mount/mount.ntfs*
[17:54] <impi> i use a vacuum cleaner and made sure i sucked out all the dust, even though it wasnt dirty at all
[17:54] <Haswell> !info mount.ntfs
[17:54] <sjm> kris_, I say that as my wife had a LXDE box that keep having issues.  I opened up the case and vacuumed/blew out quite a bit of dust
[17:55] <sjm> kris_, but the power supply still needed to be replaced.
[17:55] <nvrpunk> does anyone know how to get their syslogs to roll consistently at the exact same time?  I am using logrotate and have crontab set to 0 0 but my logs are rotating at different times (no anacrontab)
[17:55] <ObrienDave> Haswell, thought there used to be ntfs-tools. seems now its ntfs-config and ntfs-3g
[17:56] <ObrienDave> !info ntfs-tools precise
[17:56] <nvrpunk> ntfs-3g is what you wannt
[17:56] <nvrpunk> cifs-tools I think is it
[17:56] <barath> Hi guys I was looking for some help with plex media server I have just reinstalled 14.04 and restored backup however I cannot seem to get plex to rescan the library I want?
[17:56] <ObrienDave> hmm, my mistake. apologies
[17:56] <nvrpunk> oh wait, thats samba shares :P ntfs-3g
[17:57] <nvrpunk> has write abilities to ntfs mounts
[17:57] <kris_> sjm, how is the pc performing now?
[17:57] <Haswell> !info ntfs
[17:57] <ObrienDave> !info ntfs-tools quantal
[17:57] <nvrpunk> !info ntfs-3g
[17:57] <sjm> kris_, fine now.
[17:58] <Haswell> nvrpunk, good shot
[17:58] <Haswell> :)
[17:58] <kris_> sjm, sounds good. but LUbuntu is for old systems right?
[17:58] <sjm> kris_, but you might also want to see when it "freezes" if you can get to a console (ctrl-alt-f2) and login and run top
[17:59] <sjm> to see what also may be making the system unresponsive
[17:59] <nvrpunk> so is anyone here intimately familiar with logrotate?
[17:59] <sjm> kris_, it's "lighter weight"
[18:00] <kris_> sjm, fine, let me try it. so, top will atleast help us where is the problem, right?
[18:00] <sjm> kris_, so could be better for older systems, but if there are hardware issues or Firefox is trying to use 4GB of RAM (and using swap) with all the plugins, then it's not going to work well.
[18:01] <indian> how do  i download a youtube playlist?
[18:03] <giwrgos> anyone knows why ubuntu doesnt boot ? i tried to boot it countless times but it just skips the installation. in windows cd boot works perfectly
[18:04] <reisio> indian: youtube-dl
[18:04] <kris_> giwrgos, how are you trying to boot it ?
[18:04] <bubbasaures> giwrgos, Canh you clarify what that all means, that is hard to follow.
[18:04] <bubbasaures> Can*
[18:05] <indian> reisio, i want the downloads to happen automatically..meaning one after the other rather than writing youtube-dl each time for each video
[18:05] <reisio> indian: youtube-dl
[18:06] <reisio> know how I know you haven't tried youtube-dl?
[18:06] <reisio> 'cause you haven't
[18:06] <indian> reisio,youtube-dl urlname....does it download playlist?
[18:07] <cheebu> hello im having much problems with multiarch stuff on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit can some one help?
[18:07] <reisio> indian: dear lord...
[18:07] <reisio> cheebu: with 'a problem'? There's a chance you'll have to be more specific :p
[18:07] <pbx> cheebu, share some details
[18:07] <indian> reisio, help
[18:07] <jhutchins> cheebu: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:07] <reisio> indian: did you try youtube-dl yet?
[18:08] <ObrienDave> !details | cheebu
[18:08] <reisio> indian: you type it like this: y-o-u-t-u-b-e---d-l
[18:08] <indian> reisio, are you kidding
[18:09] <reisio> indian: no that's really how it's typed
[18:09] <ObrienDave> indian, no, he's not kidding
[18:09] <indian> i will try
[18:10] <cheebu> i cant install when i try to install anything... wine for example, it tells me i have alot of libraries that end with :i386 that are missing and it cant install
[18:10] <sydney> What is a program that will securely format and wipe a full HD?
[18:10] <reisio> sydney: dd, use carefully
[18:10] <ruddy> alguien me podria ayudar con el sonido de mi maquina?? se escucha muy rapido las canciones
[18:10] <sydney> I know ;)
[18:11] <reisio> ruddy: /msg alis list *ubuntu*es
[18:11] <sydney> i am building a bootable repair disk...
[18:11] <bprompt> !es | ruddy
[18:11] <reisio> sydney: what does wiping have to do with repair? :p
[18:11] <sydney> repair, wipe, ect :P
[18:11] <reisio> oooh :p
[18:11] <indian> reisio, a video is getting downloaded ...does the next video download automatically?
[18:11] <sydney> an do everything disk :)
[18:12] <reisio> sydney: http://sysresccd.org/ is easily customized
[18:12] <reisio> indian: wait and see :)
[18:12] <reisio> indian: you used the URI to the playlist, right?
[18:12] <ObrienDave> cheebu, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[18:12] <sydney> A GUI program?
[18:12] <reisio> sydney: dd + Xdialog :p
[18:13] <indian> reisio,list=PLEFED5B72CC750CE8
[18:13] <reisio> indian: wait and see :)
[18:13] <cheebu> yes i did that "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" already and updated and did the dist upgrade command ... still no use
[18:13] <indian> reisio, i think a 144p is getting downloaded ......how do i for 480p?
[18:14] <reisio> indian: I think it defaults to the highest quality available, but you can read its --help output to specify max quality explicitly
[18:15] <kris_> okies, sjm...its time for me to quit
[18:15] <kris_> sjm, thanks for the tip
[18:16] <indian> reisio, theres an option for audio quality and video format and nothing for video quality?
[18:17] <reisio> indian: just as it says in the man page...: -f bestvideo
[18:17] <reisio> but also as it says, and as I already said
[18:17] <reisio> it defaults to best
[18:17] <indian> reisio,yes there is,.....thanks
[18:18] <giwrgos> ubuntu has problems installing on ssd drives?
[18:19] <OerHeks> giwrgos, no, why?
[18:19] <ObrienDave> giwrgos, not to my knowledge
[18:19] <asher1> hello i want ask something if i have python2 how i can change this for python3?
[18:19] <giwrgos> i try to install it and it fails to see the dvd
[18:20] <ObrienDave> giwrgos, DVD? what fails?
[18:20] <giwrgos> it doesnt boot from the dvd in order to install it
[18:20] <giwrgos> i have cd as a boot priority
[18:20] <OerHeks> asher1, open terminal: python3 --version
[18:20] <indian> asher1, sudo apt-get install  python3
[18:21] <OerHeks> you should have P3 already
[18:21] <bubbasaures> giwrgos, How did you burn it to the dvd?
[18:21] <ObrienDave> giwrgos, is your BIOS set to bood DVD first?
[18:21] <ObrienDave> *boot
[18:21] <giwrgos> windows image burn
[18:21] <giwrgos> yes
[18:21] <luist> can ssh-copy-id copy private keys?????
[18:21] <giwrgos> its burned as an image not an iso
[18:21] <ObrienDave> giwrgos, sounds like a bat bvurn or bad ISO d/l
, yes i did that "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" already and updated and did the dist upgrade command ... still no use
[18:21] <tgm4883> giwrgos: Not sure why you think that because it won't boot to a DVD that it can't install on an SSD
[18:22] <bubbasaures> giwrgos, There is a per-session boot with a key or key prompts at boot mine is f12, see if you can find your.
[18:22] <giwrgos> yes ive found that
[18:22] <giwrgos> it still fails to load
[18:22] <ObrienDave> giwrgos, sounds like a bad burn or bad ISO d/l
[18:22] <giwrgos> i have burned 3 different dvd's
[18:22] <bubbasaures> giwrgos, Not boot but powering on, sorry, could be a bad burn or download as suggested.
[18:23] <tgm4883> luist: it doesn't look like it, public keys only
[18:23] <tgm4883> luist: there shouldn't be a reason to copy the private keys over though
[18:23] <ObrienDave> giwrgos, did you check the MD5SUM of the ISO?
[18:24] <luist> tgm4883: why not.. i want to sign gpg repositories with another user actually
[18:24] <giwrgos> from the same iso i loaded the os in my virtual box first
[18:25] <tgm4883> luist: because the private key is something that is generally per user/per machine? Why not just make a new key pair for the other user?
[18:25] <giwrgos> and i have it perfectly functional in my virtual box
[18:25] <ObrienDave> cheebu, sorry, i'm out of ideas
[18:25] <bubbasaures> giwrgos, The bios boot is funky, I always use the per session personally.
[18:26] <jhutchins> giwrgos: Have you verified the md5sum of the iso image and verified the disk after burning?
[18:27] <jhutchins> giwrgos: What did you use to burn it?
[18:27] <luist> tgm4883: theres a single pair to register the company repository… i dont get why i should make more than 1
[18:27] <giwrgos> windows image burn, daemon tools, and i draged and drop the files to the dvds
[18:28] <cheebu> ObrienDave, i installed some apps by "force version" certain packages from precise to trusty ... is there a way to make all switch to trusty?
[18:28] <giwrgos> also i repeat its functional cause from the same dvd i run ubuntu now on my virtual box
[18:28] <bekks> giwrgos: That will not produce a bootable image - it will produce a cd/dvd containing one file, your iso file.
[18:29] <tgm4883> luist: ok, well you asked about ssh-copy-id which indicated you wanted to use it for logging into remote machines
[18:29] <cristian_c> Hi
[18:29] <luist> tgm4883: no.. i want to sign repositories
[18:29] <cristian_c> regarding this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Securing_Apache
[18:29] <cristian_c> 'Change ports.conf so that it contains: '
[18:29] <tgm4883> luist: yes I know that now. You still can't use ssh-copy-id to move the private key
[18:29] <cristian_c> exactly, what does it mean?
[18:30] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[18:31] <luist> tgm4883: really? i dont see about this anywhere… how can i do it
[18:31] <tgm4883> luist: you would have to manually copy over they keys.  from man ssh-copy-id — use locally available keys to authorise logins on a remote machine
[18:31] <luist> oh okay
[18:31] <luist> thanks
[18:33] <OliPicard_> Hi Guys, is the process crypto normal on Ubuntu?
[18:35] <indian> reisio, i get an error  everytime  when i switch on 'System error detected' how do i resolve it?
[18:37] <milad1512> is there a difference in terminal between unity and gnome ? if yes which one is better ?
[18:38] <zackify> milad1512: unity is lame :P
[18:38] <OliPicard_> Just wondering does Crypto have a manual page?
[18:38] <milad1512> zackify: why ?
[18:38] <ObrienDave> milad1512, terminal is terminal. no difference
[18:38] <tgm4883> zackify: that would be an opinion
[18:38] <zackify> tgm4883: yes, sorry, there's not a difference just an opinion
[18:39] <indian>  i get an error  everytime  when i switch on 'System error detected' how do i resolve it?
[18:39] <milad1512> so most guys using gnome and not unity ?
[18:39] <tgm4883> milad1512: I use unity
[18:39] <cristian_c> The server has disconnected me
[18:39] <bubbasaures> milad1512, Ask this is #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:39] <ChrisS_> milad1512: I use unity
[18:39] <ObrienDave> milad1512, again, personal preference. i use XFCE
[18:39] <cristian_c> Has anyone answered to me?
[18:39] <zackify> is there an ubuntu server specific irc channel
[18:39] <tgm4883> !server | zackify
[18:39] <asher1> more question please how i install python pip in ubuntu?
[18:40] <zackify> thanks ubottu
[18:40] <milad1512> so which one do you think is better ? unity or gnome ?
[18:40] <jediboaz> gnome
[18:40] <strunzx87> i Have installed Ubuntu how to install the complete environment kde
[18:40] <asher1> more question please how i install python pip in ubuntu?
[18:40] <ObrienDave> milad1512, that is PERSONAL PREFERENCE. give it a rest
[18:41] <zackify> asher1: it's really easy: http://pip.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installing.html
[18:41] <tgm4883> milad1512: please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic as it's not support
[18:41] <cristian_c> zackify, ubottu is a bot
[18:41] <indian> how does ubottu work?
[18:41] <zackify> cristian_c: I'm an irc noob
[18:41] <ObrienDave> indian, fairly well, actually ;P
[18:42] <indian> :)
[18:42] <milad1512> tgm4883, obrienDave, are these not for ubuntu ? how is that off topic ?
[18:42] <tgm4883> milad1512: you aren't asking SUPPORT questions
[18:42] <ObrienDave> indian, ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[18:43] <tgm4883> milad1512: non-support chat should be in the offtopic channel
[18:43] <ObrienDave> milad1512, you are asking OPINION questions
[18:43] <strunzx87> Hellooo guys
[18:43] <strunzx87> hot to install the KDE envirnment from ubuntu
[18:44] <asher1> i have error
[18:44] <asher1> can't open file 'get-pip.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[18:44] <ObrienDave> strunzx87, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:45] <milad1512> tgm4883 , obrienDave . take it easy. there is more people here
[18:45] <zykotick9> strunzx87: note: the kubuntu-desktop package installs a lot more then just KDE...  there is a KDE package as well (if you don't want all the applications that come with default kubuntu)
[18:45] <nevermoreraven> hi sepera
[18:45] <indian> (i) kubuntu-desktop -- This is the recommended metapackage to install; the full Kubuntu installation, with all the Kubuntu recommended packages. This includes LibreOffice, Kontact, Konversation, Amarok, K3B, and others.
[18:45] <tdannecy> Does anybody know how to install 64 bit Google Earth on Precise? I'm having a ia32-libs issue.
[18:46] <ObrienDave> tdannecy, ia32-libs is not supported anymore
[18:47] <tdannecy> ObrienDave: Well, how do I install Google Earth then?
[18:47] <bialykot> hi
[18:47] <tdannecy> ObrienDave: I'm using the official GE  64bit deb.
[18:47] <ankk> how can i disable selinux on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:47] <sjm> asher1, did you download it?
[18:48] <strunzx87> zykotick9, thsnks, whats the KDE pakage name u were talking about
[18:48] <sjm> asher1, from http://pip.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installing.html:  To install or upgrade pip, securely download get-pip.py.
[18:49] <zykotick9> strunzx87: kde-full would be my "guess".  i'm not a kde fan myself, haven't installed it in years.
[18:50] <ObrienDave> tdannecy, can't guarantee this will work, https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-google-earth-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[18:51] <indian> ObrienDave, google earth in ubuntu?
[18:51] <ObrienDave> yes, works quite well
[18:52] <indian> ObrienDave, awesome
[18:53] <Miauriel> Good day everyone! Im trying to spin my own distro using ubuntu-mini-remix 14.04. I'd like to use Enlightenment 19 as my DE but cannot solve the dependancies even after adding the bohdi ppa. any thoughts?
[18:59] <bubbasaures> Miauriel, Yeah,this is ubuntu support not related to your project.;)
[19:00] <tdannecy> ObrienDave: That link didn't work. I'm not able to install it.
[19:00] <cristian_c> another question:
[19:00] <gildart> .
[19:02] <yochai> question: I've got a lenovo carbon x1 (2013 model) running 14.04; it has one displayport out and supports displaylink (but only in windows).  I would love to use two monitors (not including the screen).  Any way to do this through displayport?  Thanks!
[19:02] <sjm> cristian_c, did you get an answer to your other question?
[19:02] <ObrienDave> tdannecy, upgrade to trusty
[19:02] <cristian_c> sjm, no
[19:02] <tdannecy> ObrienDave: Not possible yet. I'm on Elementary. ;)
[19:03] <ObrienDave> ah, dang, sorry about that
[19:03] <cristian_c> I can't mount the micro-sd card in the internal card reader via sd adapter
[19:03] <cristian_c> I get in dmesg:
[19:03] <sjm> cristian_c, About Apache?  what was the question exactly?  that page you linked changed apache to only listen on localhost and not any public interface.
[19:03] <cristian_c> mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[19:04] <cristian_c> sdhci-pci 0000:01:04.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it.
[19:04] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:04] <cristian_c> sjm, I don't know how to edit exactly that file
[19:05] <cristian_c> sjm, /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[19:06] <sjm> cristian_c, something like "sudo vi /etc/apache2/ports.conf"  ?
[19:06] <cristian_c> sjm, not how to open the file
[19:06] <cristian_c> sjm, but how to edit
[19:07] <cristian_c> *what to edit
[19:07] <sjm> tell us what you are trying to accomplish and it would be easier to help you.
[19:09] <luis_> ddsd
[19:09] <cristian_c> sjm, what is writter in the page
[19:09] <cristian_c> sjm, ensuring apache
[19:10] <cristian_c> 'If you just want to run your Apache install as a development server and want to prevent it from listening for incoming connection attempts, this is easy to do. '
[19:10] <cristian_c> and i've to edit the file
[19:11] <sjm> so you are going to connect to apache on the same machine?
[19:11] <sjm> cristian_c, ^^ ?
[19:11] <cristian_c> yeah
[19:12] <cristian_c> 'Change ports.conf so that it contains: '
[19:12] <cristian_c> this is not clear
[19:13] <sjm> cristian_c, just change the "Listen" directive from "Listen 80" to "Listen 127.0.0.1:80"
[19:14] <cristian_c> sjm, ok, I've done this
[19:14] <sjm> That way you will only be able to connect from your local machince
[19:14] <cristian_c> sjm, but there other lines in the file
[19:14] <sjm> machine*
[19:14] <cristian_c> I'll paste in pastebin
[19:15] <sjm> change them for the 443 ports as well, if you are going to use SSL too
[19:15] <cristian_c> !<IfModule ssl_module>
[19:15] <cristian_c> 	Listen 443

[19:15] <Guest21938> Good morning. Ubuntu 12.04 is my operating system and it acts as a host for Ubuntu 12.04 installed as a guest inside VirtualBox. I have succeeded in establishing connection from VM to host (NAT) as well as I was able to establish connection from host to VM (Host-only adapter vboxnet 0). Now can you tell me if it is possible to combine both?
[19:16] <sjm> cristian_c, if you are going to use SSL, then change that too.
[19:16] <cristian_c> sjm, same for gnutls.c
[19:16] <JoshStrobl> Err, anyone know matthewpaulthomas' (Reddit r/Ubuntu) nick (assuming his IRC handle isn't the same as his reddit one). Taking a survey when you just woke up, from your mobile device, probably isn't a good idea. I accidentally used the wrong email address (one that'll end up being invalid). Reference: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2j4gs7/canonical_survey_what_do_you_think_of_your/
[19:16] <cristian_c> sjm, I don't think to use ssl
[19:16] <sjm> then don't worry about the 443 ports
[19:16] <cristian_c> so, I change only Listen 80
[19:17] <cristian_c> sjm, thanks
[19:17] <Adie> I installed official nvidia drivers, and now chromium won't render
[19:17] <Adie> any idea?
[19:18] <sjm> Adie uninstall them and then install from the PPAs?
[19:18] <squinty> Guest21938:  virtualbox has it's own channel on freenode  #vbox
[19:19] <squinty> reisio:  still waking up.  :P
[19:22] <reisio> squinty: sure sure :p
[19:22] <squinty> lol
[19:23] <JoshStrobl> Anyone mind reviewing my question I posted (about 6 minutes ago)? I'm not one to repost my stuff over and over again for attention :P
[19:23] <home_> как зайти на русский сервер
[19:24] <squinty> !ru
[19:25] <Miauriel> does anyone know how to batch convert tar.gz into .deb?
[19:27] <trism> JoshStrobl: you might be able to contact him through launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~mpt it also mentions he is mpt on freenode
[19:27] <JoshStrobl> trism, ah, thanks for grabbing that from LP. I appreciate it man!
[19:28] <AtomicIRC> helo
[19:29] <AtomicIRC> it is a nice day today
[19:29] <Adie> is there any good way to reduce sublimation in the freezer?
[19:30] <camtron> When I run sudo apt-get update,  I get a lot of 404 Not Found errors from us.archive.ubuntu.com. Did Ubuntu recently change something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8554613/
[19:30] <AtomicIRC> what is sublimation?
[19:30] <reisio> AtomicIRC: :)
[19:32] <camtron> Or did something with apt on my system get screwed up?
[19:33] <enyc> neldogz: yes =)
[19:33] <Kevindf> Hello, I've connected trough Filezilla with SFTP and public key authenticaiton to my Ubuntu-Server. The login works perfect but i've saved my folder in root /data/server/teamspeak once i get to the teamspeak folder it says permission denied
[19:33] <Kevindf> How can i set permission to be able to go into the folder and transfer some files to backup the sqlite file?
[19:35] <tgm4883> camtron: looks like that works for me
[19:37] <JoshStrobl> camtron, I checked the actual archive and the lines references do actually have web-accessible archives.
[19:38] <Aamit> Ubuntu 14.04 sometimes restart.. After googling it seems Nvidia card problem is anybody know any solution??? Plz
[19:39] <Giwrgaras> any good media player for ubuntu?
[19:39] <schultza> i have a laptop when the lid closes, it suspends... is there a way to stop this
[19:39] <schultza> ?
[19:39] <Aamit> Giwrgaras, vlc
[19:40] <camtron> Giwrgaras: VLC
[19:40] <schultza> the power options in ubuntu shows when i close the lid on ac or not ac to "do nothing"..yet it still powers down/suspends
[19:40] <Giwrgaras> and a good music player  pls?
[19:40] <camtron> And this is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/8554674/ Anything wrong with it?
[19:41] <Aamit> Giwrgaras, Depends all are good
[19:41] <Giwrgaras> so something that intergrades with the ubuntu interface
[19:41] <lelforce> :)
[19:42] <brontosaurusrex> Giwrgaras: mpv
[19:42] <Aamit>  Ubuntu 14.04 sometimes restart.. After googling it seems Nvidia card problem is anybody know any solution??? Plz
[19:42] <camtron> Giwrgaras: Rhythmbox does that, though it comes preinstalled.
[19:44] <ForTheWin> guys is it a good idea to replace my win7 with lubuntu, im all about speed and performance, dont care about aesthetics
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> ForTheWin: thats the question for yourself.
[19:45] <kostkon> ForTheWin, what kind of speed and performance are you after? desktop or gaming?
[19:45] <camtron> ForTheWin, I'd dual boot, so you'd have both OSes.
[19:45] <ForTheWin> kostkon: desktop. this pc is hopeless for gaming
[19:46] <ForTheWin> camtron: ok so dualboot win7 for emergencies but mainly use lubuntu, good plan?
[19:46] <EriC^^> sounds good
[19:47] <tgm4883> heh, win7 for emergencies, thats rich
[19:47] <UTF> i was just thinking the same :)
[19:48] <EriC^^> it's good for making live usbs
[19:48] <UTF> what kind of emergency would trigger a w7 boot?
[19:48] <camtron> Any PC is good for retro gaming, though.
[19:48] <EriC^^> :D
[19:49] <tgm4883> UTF: I suppose if you wanted to verify that your pentesting laptop was working properly you might want to boot your desktop into windows
[19:50] <ForTheWin> hahaha, ok youre right, i meant for those pesky ms office files that wont convert perfectly or maybe some progs that wont run on wine/playonlinux?
[19:50] <deb> hello, am looking for a way i can record a screencast from the terminal, this is ubuntu 14.04 32bits, i want only screen (no sound or webcam) into my screencast.mp4(avi,or etc) file, no from a graphical app but from terminal, am trying to figure out avconv, since ffmpeg is not longer in use by 14.04, thanks.
[19:50] <UTF> haha tgm4883 :)
[19:51] <tgm4883> ForTheWin: I'm not in the finance world, so google apps converts all the office files just fine. As for programs that won't run in wine, find an alternative
[19:52] <reisio> deb: well, avconv is just stupid libav's stupid rename :p
[19:52] <UTF> ForTheWin: i would also consider just installing one OS. Most ms office conversions works okay. i had just little trouble with ppt files but other than that it seems to be ok
[19:53] <reisio> deb: -x11grab -s FOOxBAR -r 30 -i :0.0 -vcodec libx264 -qp 0 -preset ultrafast -threads 2 -an baz.mp4
[19:53] <deb> reisio, fine, how you do your screencast with out mic or webcam, only video, using the terminal under MATE?
[19:53] <UTF> ForTheWin: also most windows programs works in wine/playonlinux. I had trouble with a few games but since it is not a gamer computer i think you will be ok
[19:54] <ikonia> most windows programs do not work
[19:54] <ikonia> it is a case by case situation and depends on a lot of things
[19:54] <reisio> deb: just said
[19:54] <camtron> Lots of D3D games run significantly slower in Wine.
[19:54] <reisio> lots run significantly slower on Windows, too
[19:55] <tgm4883> buy more linux games :)
[19:56] <UTF> most common programs should run fine in wine then
[19:56] <ikonia> no they do not
[19:56] <schultza> There are windows only games on a 3d engine that will run on linux, but apparently they do not release it to linux.
[19:56] <deb> reisio, http://sprunge.us/GhYO
[19:56] <UTF> lol
[19:56] <ikonia> again it depends on many things
[19:56] <ikonia> wine should not be considered a solution you depend on - more a temporary work around that may/may not work at that point in time
[19:56] <reisio> mostly how poorly authored the program is :)
[19:56] <UTF> ok then all the programs i have used on windows works fine in wine
[19:57] <ForTheWin> my nvidia legacy binary driver version 304 has been applying changes for half an hour now and the progress bar hasnt budged a millimeter, help please?
[19:57] <Bashing-om> camtron: I see no fault with your sources.list file, Are you at work and behind a 'proxy' ?
[19:57] <reisio> deb: sorry, it's -f x11grab
[19:57] <UTF> i run photoshop and a few games
[19:57] <UTF> runs perfectly in wine
[19:57] <UTF> everything i need
[19:57] <UTF> :)
[19:57] <camtron> No. I'm at home. Could it be a mirror problem?
[19:57] <ForTheWin> utf: thank you
[19:57] <ikonia> photoshop is a great exampe of a hit and miss application
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> UTF: what version of photoshop?
[19:58] <ForTheWin> is gimp just as good?
[19:58] <ikonia> gimp is excellent
[19:58] <UTF> brontosaurusrex: i'm running CS6 at the moment
[19:58] <ikonia> but can't deal with the propitary adobe formats
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> UTF: nice
[19:59] <camtron> Gimp can do pretty much anything Photoshop can do, and it's faster. But it's GUI isn't as good.
[19:59] <ikonia> bottom line, you want the program to work, use the OS the program was designed to be used on
[19:59] <Bashing-om> camtron: As that is the "main" mirror, and others say they have no problem with it, I would not think it likely the mirrpor is at fault - in this case.
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> not really, photoshop is way faster/better/more features
[19:59] <UTF> camtron: gimp is awesome, but when you are used to photoshop it can be a pain getting used to the UI
[19:59]  * reisio rolls eyes
[19:59] <ForTheWin> my nvidia legacy binary driver version 304 has been applying changes for half an hour now and the progress bar hasnt budged a millimeter, help please?
[20:00] <KavanS> brontosaurusrex: yes, but most of those features people do not need.  and I would disagree that photoshop is faster
[20:00] <KavanS> gimp is faster in my experience....
[20:00] <KavanS> it takes a bit more horse power to run win7 + adobe photoshop than ubuntu + gimp
[20:00] <camtron> I find GIMP to be faster, too.
[20:00] <UTF> KavanS: but photoshops content aware fill really rocks
[20:00] <KavanS> true...
[20:00] <KavanS> just most people aren't using elite features
[20:01] <tgm4883> gimp/photoshop is usually a matter of familiarity/preference. Similar to Unity/KDE
[20:01] <KavanS> your standard person at home gimp is a great solution
[20:01] <KavanS> yep agreed
[20:01] <KavanS> just saying that the feature difference, is negligible when you bring in the real world users
[20:01] <camtron> I've never found any Adobe product to be fast.
[20:01] <UTF> tgm4883: i agree
[20:01] <Giwrgaras> no sound in 14.04? what do i do?
[20:02] <Giwrgaras> no sorry i found it
[20:02] <Giwrgaras> :)
[20:02] <pbx> Giwrgaras, say more. what hardware? did it work before? if yes, what have you changed?
[20:02] <leitao> how do I find how to map a network name to an mac address?
[20:02] <Giwrgaras> i had to change the output
[20:03] <Giwrgaras> clementine btw is an awesome player
[20:03] <Digipeng> leitao: what do you mean?
[20:03] <deb> reisio, ok cool, looks like is working but when i play my file said "fine have no data", how you quit with saving from that command, so i can see my .flv?
[20:03] <leitao> Digipeng,  I want that my NIC (AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF) be ethx instead of eth0
[20:03] <leitao> for example
[20:04] <schultza> Is there an irc channel to talk about Terminator? (the gui split window term for linux)
[20:05] <deb> reisio, this is the command am trying: SIZE=$(xdpyinfo | grep dimensions | awk '{printf $2}'); avconv -f x11grab -s $SIZE -r 30 -i :0.0 -vcodec libx264 -qp 0 -preset ultrafast -threads 2 -an baz.mp4
[20:05] <brontosaurusrex> schultza: possibly #crunchbang (default term in that distro)
[20:05] <tgm4883> leitao: odd request. I belive that would just be editing /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:05] <leitao> tgm4883, it is the old style
[20:05] <schultza> thanks.. ill take a look
[20:05] <leitao> tgm4883, on 1404 or newer, it changed to something else.
[20:05] <leitao> not sure if this is /etc/networks/interface....
[20:05] <Giwrgaras> is there a way to open one note documents in ubuntu? or even better a whole book?
[20:05] <tgm4883> leitao: I'm on 14.04 right now
[20:06] <leitao> tgm4883, do you have 70-something?
[20:06] <Digipeng> okay that makes better sense.
[20:06] <tgm4883> leitao: yes
[20:06] <leitao> https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1312785
[20:06] <leitao> tgm4883, according to that bug, it changed.
[20:06] <leitao> and I don't have it on my system
[20:07] <tgm4883> leitao: that is talking about the server guide. I don't believe it changed, but I can check my servers if you want
[20:07] <leitao> tgm4883, how do you generate the 70-something file? It doesn't exist over here.
[20:07] <camtron> This is the full output of apt-get update. Pasebinit didn't capture all of it. http://pastebin.com/53SVxFKT
[20:07] <UTF> weird i have it on my system too
[20:08] <camtron> I tried opening those urls and I do get a Not Found error.
[20:09] <ashkan_> clear
[20:09] <Giwrgaras> and something else please. is there a way to double click on .deb files and install them?
[20:09] <UTF> but /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules doesn't exist on my server... only on my desktop version
[20:09] <leitao> tgm4883, it changed with systemd version
[20:09] <leitao> tgm4883, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[20:10] <squinty> Giwrgaras:  clicking on debs in file manager should open up gdebi from which you can install
[20:10] <ObrienDave> if gdebi is installed
[20:11] <Giwrgaras> gr8
[20:11] <camtron> Giwrgaras: If it doesn't, you have to right-click the file and click "Open with other application" and set gdebi as the default.
[20:11] <camtron> You can also use Ubuntu Software Center instead of gdebi, but it's painfully slow.
[20:12] <Giwrgaras> ok and its fun to use the terminal btw. for one note is there an alternative?
[20:12] <Giwrgaras> or there is nothing in ubuntu like that
[20:14] <agent_white> Afternoon!
[20:14] <camtron> I've noticed that the url http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages generates a 404 Not Found error, but there is a Packages.bz2 and a Packages.gz instead. Could apt somehow be missing that filename extension?
[20:14] <tgm4883> leitao: just checked one of my 14.04 servers, it's still eth0. I don't have a persistent rules file for udev though
[20:15] <tgm4883> my desktop was upgraded from 12.04, so it might have that leftover
[20:15] <k1l> camtron: run a "sudo apt-get update". you seem to have a old package list for files that are not on the servers anymore
[20:15] <jimmy51v_> at the login screen I can choose the window manager type (KDE,gnome, cinnamon, etc).  is this someting I can preset via command line or script?
[20:15] <leitao> tgm4883, right, that might explain it.
[20:15] <rsvp> switched from Unity to Gnome: now the mouse scroll wheel shows command history, not up/down viewing in the terminal -- howto revert this unexpected behavior ????
[20:15] <camtron> k1l: That's what I did. And it gives me 404 Not Found errors each time.
[20:16] <k1l> camtron: can you pastebin it?
[20:17] <camtron> k1l: http://pastebin.com/53SVxFKT
[20:17] <agent_white> rsvp: What term emulator do you use?
[20:18] <squinty> Giwrgaras:  sorry wife came home and I have to go again.  re commandline  dpkg works with installing debs ie  sudo dpkg -i <deb file name>.deb   check the docs for further details.  :)
[20:18] <rsvp> agent_white: just the generic one which came installed with Trusty.
[20:18] <Bashing-om> camtron: -> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <- resolves for me .. what is your result ?
[20:19] <agent_white> rsvp: Probably gnome terminal? -- `basename $(ps -f -p $(cat /proc/$(echo $$)/stat | cut -d \  -f 4) | tail -1 | sed 's/^.* //')` to check and see.
[20:19] <agent_white> (greps parent process name)
[20:20] <k1l> camtron: did you make changes to your sources.list?
[20:20] <camtron> Bashing-om: Yes, that url resolves for me. But addresses like http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/universe/binary-i386/Packages (see the W: lines in that pastebin) don't resolve.
[20:21] <Gnomethrower> Hey, need feedback for a Ubuntu PC build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4W6NBm
[20:21] <rsvp> agent_white:  yup, Gnome terminal 3.6.2 -- but how does one modify its said behavior?
[20:21] <agent_white> rsvp: `dpkg-reconfigure gnome-terminal`
[20:21] <agent_white> Let me know if that works for you!
[20:21] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: what is the intended use?
[20:21] <rsvp> thanks very much
[20:21] <agent_white> :) cheers!
[20:21] <Gnomethrower> tgm4883: as a server
[20:22] <camtron> I don't believe I made changes to sources.list, but here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8554674/
[20:22] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: do you really need like a billion thermal paste?
[20:22] <angiolengi> #list
[20:22] <Gnomethrower> tgm4883: it keeps the fans cool and lubricated
[20:23] <rww> !list | angiolengi
[20:23] <jungle_bg_> I have been trying to get the ubuntu kernal source for saucy, but oddly the git repo rejects my request to clone. Does this work for anyone else: git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-saucy.git
[20:23] <agent_white> Just never use more than a pea's worth on your cpu! :)
[20:23] <EriC^^> isn't thermal paste so that the conduction between the heat sink and the cpu is improved?
[20:23] <angiolengi> ok sorry
[20:23] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: honestly, did you just go through and pick the most expensive parts you could buy? This would be a terrible server
[20:24] <tgm4883> well, terribly priced
[20:24] <tgm4883> actually, I'm just going to ask Gnomethrower to stop trolling
[20:25] <Gnomethrower> tgm4883: what if I want legit advice? :/
[20:25] <mikodo> If I buy a capable computer, ++ processor with quad core, or 8 cores with hyperthreading, ++ GPU, 16 of ram, etc, could a Vbox .vdm of Windows 7 run streaming TV?  I don't want to mess with my Linux installs, for that stuff, I keep the browsers, buttoned down with Linux.
[20:25] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: then you should bring a legit build
[20:25] <Bashing-om> camtron: Do not know yet "The requested URL /ubuntu/dists/precise/universe/binary-i386/Packages was not found on this server. " I also get.
[20:25] <Gnomethrower> tgm4883: it's a matter of taste
[20:25] <Gnomethrower> I like my builds cool and expensive
[20:25] <k1l> camtron: hmm. dont know actually
[20:25] <Gnomethrower> price is no object
[20:25] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: BullS***. A server doesn't run Windows 7, 16GB ram and 3 monitors
[20:26] <k1l> camtron: you could try to change to the main-servers (in system settings for updates) and then run "sudo apt-get update" again
[20:26] <Gnomethrower> tgm4883: I wanted Windows 7 so I could wipe it out
[20:26] <camtron> Bashing-om: I'm wondering if there should be a .bz2 or .gz appended to those bad urls.
[20:26] <kostkon> neiter an 12gb nvidia card
[20:26] <kostkon> neither*
[20:26] <Gnomethrower> kostkon: it's for rendering...
[20:27] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: for $85K this is a terrible server
[20:27] <k1l> camtron: no. that is what apt is doing in the background. it seems to not find that specific server
[20:27] <tgm4883> not even power redundant
[20:27] <EriC^^> lovely
[20:27] <agent_white> jungle_bg_: Reject for me too. All the others worked... odd.
[20:28] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: for rendering? Good thing you have $1.5K headphones and $1K 2ch speakers
[20:28] <Bashing-om> camtron: I saw no fault with your sources.list file, If I step through from " http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ " I find no fault, and I can ping the IP ..hummm.
[20:28] <tgm4883> lol
[20:28] <jungle_bg_> agent_white: Thank you for the sanity check
[20:28] <agent_white> jungle_bg_: Yeah... I'm just curious what the deal is there! Makes no sense...
[20:29] <tgm4883> wireless and wired. Because that is what I need in my rendering server, wireless NIC
[20:29] <jungle_bg_> I was about to kick the dog and the cat. Well F..That's the release I need
[20:29] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: thanks, it's been a busy day and I needed a good laugh
[20:29] <rww> and with that, I think we can get back to Ubuntu support.
[20:29] <Gnomethrower> tgm4883: hmm... I can do a build for $130K that I think you'll like a lot more
[20:30] <bazhang> !ot
[20:30] <rww> Gnomethrower: leave the channel clear for actual support, thanks
[20:30] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: doubt I would "like" it, but might think it's pretty funny though. I agree that this is OT though
[20:30] <agent_white> jungle_bg_: Try asking in #ubuntu-devel
[20:32] <Gnomethrower> rww: I'm asking seriously
[20:32] <Gnomethrower> but sure. I'll just be ignored anyways :P
[20:32] <agent_white> Gnomethrower: What he means is -- that question is very broad, not suitable for #ubuntu specifically.
[20:32] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: in any case, even if you were serious that isn't a support question
[20:32] <rww> Gnomethrower: ask it elsewhere.
[20:32] <Gnomethrower> rww: Way to be welcoming to newbies.
[20:32] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic is always good for a discussion of a metric tonne of thermal paste
[20:33]  * Gnomethrower writes rww on a list
[20:33] <TheMystic> hey all, since a day or two ago I'm getting a 404 on: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages
[20:33] <EriC^^> lol
[20:33] <tgm4883> Gnomethrower: just go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat about your fantasy build
[20:33] <k1l> Gnomethrower: this channel is for technical ubuntu support. not for hardware support. so please ask in ##hardware or in #ubuntu-offtopic. no drama needed.
[20:34] <TheMystic> but http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/Release says it's there and has checksums for it
[20:34] <TheMystic> I wouldn't mind except that the warning is throwing my automation off...
[20:34] <Gnomethrower> k1l: I was asking specifically how it would do as a #ubuntu server.
[20:34] <Gnomethrower> rww made it personal
[20:34] <agent_white> So... to bump jungle_bg_'s question... any of you guys able to clone the Ubuntu-Saucy repo?
[20:34] <agent_white> (git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-saucy.git)
[20:34] <k1l> TheMystic: well, camtron got same issue right now.
[20:35] <TheMystic> k1l: heh, so is anyone here that manages the security repository? :)
[20:35] <TheMystic> Packages.gz and Packages.bz2 are there, and if I un-gzip Packages.gz, it checksums correctly per precise-security/Release
[20:35] <k1l> TheMystic: for the other user its not the security server but some us.archive server for precise.
[20:36] <k1l> TheMystic: maybe the servers have some mirroring issue right now. or your ISP got some dns issue
[20:36] <munnabhai> Hello people. In my desktop I have 3GB of ram and I am running xubuntu 14.04 LTS and the memory usage doesn't get over 500 (I assume its considering 512MB of ram out of 3GB) and at times cpu usage goes high and hangs for few seconds. I need to know how to get full usage of ram ?
[20:37] <trism> agent_white: it isn't listed here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git so it's probably gone
[20:37]  * camtron crosses fingers
[20:37] <ikonia> munnabhai: why do you think you are not getting use of your ram
[20:37] <TheMystic> k1l: not a DNS issue -- I can get to security.ubuntu.com just fine. it's been going on for at least 24hrs or so
[20:37] <Bashing-om> camtron: Always amazing to me what I do not know; " http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/universe/binary-i386/ " resolves, but "packages" is not in the list , to complete your given URL - above.
[20:38] <camtron> Woohoo! I followed this and it fixed my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/128369/sudo-apt-get-update-error-on-ubuntu-12-04
[20:38] <agent_white> trism: Huh, didn't bother to check there! But I did find it in the list.
[20:38] <munnabhai> I have checked it in system load monitor it shows around 480MB out of 3021MB used even on heavy usage
[20:38] <agent_white> trism: Thank you!
[20:38] <agent_white> jungle_bg_: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/bradf/ubuntu-saucy/.git
[20:38] <ikonia> munnabhai: it only uses the ram it needs
[20:39] <tgm4883> munnabhai: but heavy usage doesn't necessarily mean RAM usage
[20:39] <ikonia> munnabhai: you can't make it use ram it doesn't need (it uses that for caching)
[20:39] <jungle_bg_> thanks
[20:39] <jungle_bg_> agent_white: thank you
[20:39] <Jordan_U> munnabhai: What do you consider heavy usage?
[20:39] <agent_white> :)
[20:40] <Bashing-om> camtron: checking what that solution is !
[20:40] <maxwell>  hello all. my friend has a broadcom4321 wireless card. He's running Linux Mint. It connects to most access points fine, as long as he doesn't have to go through an authentication page... then it refuses connection.
[20:40] <munnabhai> ikonia: Okay! I heard people saying use PAE KERNEL if am using 32bit of os with more than 2GB of ram
[20:40] <maxwell> ...did that paste?
[20:40] <ikonia> munnabhai: they gave you the wrong info
[20:40] <agent_white> jungle_bg_: Yup! It was all trism though. He said to check http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[20:40] <ikonia> munnabhai: you're fine with 3GB of ram on 32bit
[20:41] <ObrienDave> munnabhai, it's more than 4GB needs PAE kernel
[20:41] <impi> hey hey
[20:41] <camtron> PAE is some way for 32-bit systems to use more than 4 GB of RAM. But I think programs have to support it to be able to utilize it.
[20:41] <SADIK25000_> tekrar bağlandım.
[20:42] <impi> was in here earlier asking about 14.04 and a heat issue
[20:42] <impi> https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1900090_10152342995187791_1734234298476119364_n.jpg?oh=41fabde22b69e9aa821aba63caee3922&oe=54C5BFF1
[20:42] <impi> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10371360_10152342995407791_6858589693690265914_n.jpg?oh=4347882e7f35140697f62d43b91713fa&oe=54AA8E39&__gda__=1420663366_a3459fb8f9f45f2e60df2eb4637c4520
[20:42] <impi> ^^ thats  the fix
[20:42] <reisio> ah, URIs conceived by geniuses...
[20:42] <munnabhai> Jordan_U: i wanted to check the performance with 3GB of ram so i opened many applications (browser, media player, kdenlive, gimp etc) but my cpu usage goes upto 100% but ram never get over 500MB. I got confused there !
[20:43] <tgm4883> munnabhai: you would need to open programs known to use large amounts of RAM
[20:43] <TheMystic> impi: heh, where'd you find that tribble?
[20:43] <ObrienDave> reisio, that's pushing the 255 character limit, i guess LOL
[20:43] <brontosaurusrex> munnabhai: how do you check ram usage?
[20:43] <k1l> camtron: so changing the mirrors did help?
[20:43] <impi> TheMystic, tribble? the baby thing?
[20:43] <munnabhai> tgm4883: Programs known to use large amounts of RAM ? like ?
[20:44] <reisio> ObrienDave: it's just hard to imagine a human being using logic to conceive such a scheme :p
[20:44] <TheMystic> impi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribble
[20:44] <munnabhai> brontosaurusrex: i used System Load Monitor. It'll give me cpu, memory and swap usage details.
[20:44] <zykotick9> munnabhai: actually, even with PAE, individual programs are still limited to the 3.2(or whatever)...
[20:44] <ObrienDave> reisio, i never said it was logical LOL
[20:44] <camtron> k1l: Yes. Going to the "Software Source" from either Synaptic or USC and changing the mirror and choosing "Select Best Server" fixed it.
[20:44] <impi> HAHAHAHAHA
[20:45] <reisio> nor I :p
[20:45] <impi> TheMystic, thats funny! i found him hiding in my fan the bugger
[20:45] <brontosaurusrex> munnabhai: and a utility like htop agrees?
[20:45] <Digipeng> munnabhai: cpu is a resource just like ram is just because rams enough doesn't mean your cpu is powerfull enough to run everything
[20:46] <Digipeng> a 486 cannot run 3d graphics smoothly
[20:46] <munnabhai> Okay! I have used windows with this configuration and it worked pretty fast, now I dont understand my xubuntu doesn't work that efficiently. Any way to install graphic drivers in xubuntu ?
[20:47] <Digipeng> Munnabhai: have you tried #xubuntu?
[20:47] <munnabhai> brontosaurusrex: htop ? Sorry, No idea. I would consider looking at it
[20:47] <brontosaurusrex> munnabhai: apt-get install htop & htop
[20:48] <munnabhai> Digipeng: No. Thought this would be the right place to get it instantly.
[20:48] <munnabhai> brontosaurusrex: get it ! I will give it a try. Hope my desktop doesn't hang.
[20:50] <munnabhai> when does the swap memory will get used ? I am kind of beginner to these funtionalities.
[20:52] <agent_white> munnabhai: If you're curious,  check out this article. http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that
[20:52] <Jordan_U> brontosaurusrex: Be careful when giving instructions that look like terminal commands. "apt-get install htop & htop", as a terminal command, has two issues. 1: It would need a sudo to run apt-get as root, and you would want to use "&&" to run htop only after apt-get finishes (successfully) ('&' will run second command at the same time as the first, with the first command running in the background).
[20:52] <agent_white> (it's about prioritizing RAM vs swap usage, and stuff)
[20:52] <munnabhai> agent_white: I am on it.
[20:53] <brontosaurusrex> Jordan_U: i stand corrected
[20:53] <brontosaurusrex> munnabhai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq < possibly worth reading
[20:55] <munnabhai> brontosaurusrex: Thanks. I ll go through these and few other similar forums to fix the issue.
[21:00] <Finetundra> anyone have an anti-virus that they suggest?
[21:01] <Mathisen> ClamAV
[21:01] <Jordan_U> !virus | Finetundra
[21:02] <Finetundra> I just need to figure out if I have something
[21:02] <strahm> Hey
[21:03] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: What do you mean by "figure out if I have something"?
[21:04] <pbx> i think that means "if i have a virus", so the answer is no
[21:06] <marc1989> question: How do I delete the last word of the line I am are currently in while using Vim?
[21:06] <Finetundra> can you tell me how to use that command?
[21:09] <pbx> Finetundra, `clamav` is command-line AV application you can install with the usual tools (apt, apt-get, synaptic, aptitude, Ubuntu Software Center...)
[21:09] <brontosaurusrex> marc1989: try #vi or #vim perhaps ? (there is no keyboard default afaik)
[21:09] <pbx> Finetundra, http://www.clamav.net/
[21:09] <Mathisen> there is a gui for it ClamTk
[21:09] <Finetundra> pbx, i'll give it a shot
[21:10] <Mathisen> if you dont want to use command line
[21:10] <ZeXx86> Hi, could someone tell me seriously why PulseAudio is needed for normal users? Why it is preinstalled in so many distros when it causes so many troubles and nearly nobody uses its features
[21:11] <ZeXx86> and why Ubuntu use such old version of pulseaudio when there is version 5 with many fixes for years?
[21:11] <oleg__> q
[21:12] <ObrienDave> ZeXx86, security, quality, etc.
[21:12] <ZeXx86> ObrienDave: QUALITY? :-B
[21:12] <ZeXx86> ObrienDave: 10000 bugs unresolved bugs for years in launchpad? :D
[21:12] <Jordan_U> ZeXx86: Both of your premises, that nobody uses its features and that it causes many troubles, are false. Pulseaudio is one of two ways (the other being dmix) to allow two applications to play sound at once, and pulseaudio (unlike dmix) allows for variable latency between different applications and operations within applications, so a music player can avoid skipping and conserve power (large buffer), while a game can play soun
[21:13] <Finetundra> pbx, how do i run clamav?
[21:13] <home_> give me plz adress rus server ubuntu
[21:13] <ZeXx86> Jordan_U: but dmix worked very, very well for all users with much lower latency
[21:13] <Jordan_U> ZeXx86: Unless you have a specific problem that you'd like help getting resolved, rather than questioning Ubuntu's development decisions, this discussion is offtopic. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:14] <kostkon> ZeXx86, try using your usb headset with just dmix and alsa
[21:14] <home_> #ubuntu/ru
[21:14] <Mathisen> Finetundra just install the GUI for it
[21:14] <home_> give rus adress
[21:14] <k1l> !ru | home_
[21:14] <ZeXx86> well, I dont like pulseaudio only because such major bugs
[21:15] <home_> thanks
[21:15] <Mathisen> Finetundra 1. wget http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/clamtk/clamtk_3.05-1_all.deb  2. sudo dpkg -i clamtk_3.05-1_all.deb 3. sudo apt-get -f install 4 . Run it
[21:15] <ZeXx86> I know lot of issues with it unresolved and reported for years
[21:15] <bazhang> thats not on topic here ZeXx86
[21:15] <Jordan_U> ZeXx86: That's not an Ubuntu support question. Please stick to Ubuntu support questions only in this channel.
[21:16] <ZeXx86> Jordan_U: OK, can you tell me why 5.1 sound pulseaudio profile does not work as it should? I have to switch to any other profile and then back, then it is OK
[21:17] <ZeXx86> Jordan_U: and it is corrupted again after reboot, etc
[21:18] <ZeXx86> Jordan_U: then, why MP3 tracks and other audio is stuttering on quad core PC with 8GB ram?
[21:18] <ZeXx86> Jordan_U: with any player, using pulseaudio
[21:19] <crito> Hey guys new to apache and wondered if adding a .htaccess file can cause problems if not enabled in apache.conf?
[21:19] <ZeXx86> Jordan_U: it could be played better with 486dx and pure alsa+dmix
[21:20] <kostkon> ZeXx86, this is really the wrong place to complain about PulseAudio
[21:20] <ZeXx86> kostkon: these bugs are reported for years, what should I need?
[21:20] <ZeXx86> *do
[21:21] <ZeXx86> If there is at least one competent people, he should know, it is really broken
[21:22] <ZeXx86> and users which want to switch to Ubuntu can't because of this
[21:22] <ObrienDave> *must not feed trolls*
[21:23] <ZeXx86> thats not good if you think I am troll, I want better Ubuntu, but nobody want to fix such issues
[21:24] <ZeXx86> there could be at least newer package versions
[21:24] <enyc> ZeXx86: submit patch to Pulseaudio maintainers, ?   try to reproduce fault in diferent distros with similar pulse versions?
[21:24] <enyc> ZeXx86: employ a developer to fix it for you, then submit patch upstream
[21:25] <ZeXx86> enyc: these bugs could be fixed in latest versions, but Ubuntu is running version few years old
[21:25] <k1l> ZeXx86: did you file bugs on launchpad and tried to help the maintainer?
[21:25] <kostkon> !info pulseaudio
[21:25] <ZeXx86> k1l: yes
[21:25] <bazhang> !latest | ZeXx86
[21:25] <Mathisen> ZeXx86 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/CleanupAudioJumble
[21:26] <ZeXx86> k1l: I reported lot of bugs, no one was fixed even there are tons of other ppl which are affected :(
[21:26] <ZeXx86> even not related with pulseaudio
[21:26] <ZeXx86> but with Unity, etc
[21:26] <rhettNick> fdas
[21:26] <enyc> ZeXx86: unity haters may like Mint-17 MATE or Mint-17 Cinnamon =)
[21:27] <k1l> can you link the specific bug for your problem you just mentioned here?
[21:27] <ObrienDave> the devs obviously don't share your concerns about what you perceive to be bugs
[21:27] <ZeXx86> enyc: that is not solution, if Ubuntu cares about users it should be fixed
[21:28] <ObrienDave> in your opinion
[21:29] <ZeXx86> ObrienDave: if you are beginner, what is your opinion on this OS, when you see that there are so many bugs and these are occuring for years?
[21:30] <k1l> ObrienDave: no need to escalate this.
[21:30] <bazhang> !ot | ZeXx86
[21:30] <k1l> ZeXx86: stop that. focus on the support and not who to blame
[21:30] <ZeXx86> hmm, thanks
[21:30] <bazhang> ZeXx86, give us the exact bug links, please
[21:31] <k1l> ZeXx86: i asked for the specific bug link to the isue you just mentioned with pulseaudio.
[21:32]  * Mathisen is getting his popcorn
[21:32] <ZeXx86> k1l:  here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1373661
[21:32] <ZeXx86> it is last one which I reported
[21:32] <k1l> ZeXx86: ok thanks, i will take a look
[21:33] <ZeXx86> thanks
[21:35] <ObrienDave> ZeXx86, i am a Linux beginner, but i have learned over 44 years of dealing with computers, if it doesn't work as expected, fix it or find something else that does work.
[21:36] <ObrienDave> not sit and complain about how I think it should work
[21:37] <bazhang> lets get back to support please
[21:37] <ZeXx86> I support Ubuntu for years, but I hate to see its so buggy, sadly it is true. It is price for adding so many features without feedback.
[21:37] <ZeXx86> and I am actually kernel developer and programmer.
[21:38] <k1l> ZeXx86: well. is that a pci or usb card? can you attach more info or error messages like dmesg or some pulseaudion log to that bug report?
[21:38] <ZeXx86> k1l: yes, it is friend's PC, so it can take few days
[21:39] <ZeXx86> k1l: but dmesg will be without any error message
[21:39] <k1l> ZeXx86: i cant help on that specific bug (no audio guy and dont have a 5.1 system to test) but you could try to add more infos/errors onto that bugreport so to make the devs work easier
[21:39] <ZeXx86> k1l: PCI card
[21:40] <HelpSeeker_> Hi, everyone...
[21:40] <sixequal1zero> So I was foolish enough to copy a .docx onto this system, is there any way I can open it?
[21:40] <OerHeks> ZeXx86, maybe a gnome volume control issue, try pavucontrol
[21:40] <HelpSeeker_> Can someone help me with a problem on my Ubuntu?
[21:40] <ObrienDave> sixequal1zero, LibreOffice can open it
[21:40] <ZeXx86> OerHeks: I've tried all the possibilities
[21:40] <ZeXx86> OerHeks: there is issue with pulseaudio profile load
[21:41] <Jordan_U> sixequal1zero: LibreOffice should open it. Are you having trouble opening it in LibreOffice?
[21:41] <ZeXx86> OerHeks: so you have to use pacmd to load any different profile and then load again 51
[21:42] <grubs_mcgee> how can i install nvidias latest driver on the livecd before it boots up
[21:42] <sixequal1zero> ObrienDave: thanks Jordan_U, No I just needed to know what to launch from terminal
[21:42] <bazhang> remaster it or use a usb with persistence grubs_mcgee
[21:43] <Mathisen> ZeXx86 what is this spirit system i dont understand...
[21:43] <grubs_mcgee> i should add that i have a new nvidia card which doesnt work with nouveau or whatever
[21:44] <ZeXx86> Mathisen: this is not related with Ubuntu
[21:44] <bazhang> grubs_mcgee, yes, usb with persistence
[21:44] <bazhang> !usb | grubs_mcgee
[21:44] <Giwrgaras> how can i remove the amazon from my ubuntu? anyone knows?
[21:44] <bazhang> !adlens
[21:45] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[21:45] <bazhang> see above Giwrgaras
[21:45] <Jordan_U> sixequal1zero: gnome-open /path/to/file.docx
[21:46] <Jordan_U> sixequal1zero: If you explicitly want to open it with LibreOffice then you can run "libreoffice /path/to/file.docx" as well. Or, from the file manger, just double click the .docx file.
[21:46] <Guest26171> anyone handy with setting up a dhcp server/gateway box ?    i have eth0 > inet    eth1 < dmz
[21:47] <Giwrgaras> gr8 thanks!
[21:48] <grubs_mcgee> how do i delete the things from the UEFI boot menu
[21:48] <Guest26171> clients on the dmz want a seemless dhcp connection to inet through this box    will i have to adjust the routing table manually or is there an app ?
[21:48] <vavivuv> Doo nah ning buh bah baah, Doo na ning, buh bah bah, Doo nah ning ning ning nee noo noo noo noo,  can you see this?  Tell me can you see this, have you seen this
[21:49] <Jordan_U> vavivuv: In the future, please use #test to test if your client is working.
[21:49] <vavivuv> k thanks
[21:49] <sixequal1zero> Jordan_U: Thanks, I don't have gnome-open installed but good to know it's there
[21:49] <vavivuv> didn't know there was such a chan
[21:50] <Jordan_U> sixequal1zero: You're welcome.
[21:53] <Guest26171> nobody ?
[21:53] <grubs_mcgee> try #networking
[21:53]  * Guest26171 goes to see
[21:53] <Linnak> Hi, when i set side panel autohide, i'm unable to get it even if i set on the left side and also the corner
[21:55] <Linnak> and i have always this error executable path /usr/bin/compiz  and i didn't install compiz
[21:59] <Spark> what's a good tool for creating audio loops, like car engine loops for example
[21:59] <Spark> audacity seems pretty bad
[21:59] <Spark> i used to use it about 10 years ago but it's even worse now
[22:02] <POLYPUSHER> Hey guys, is it possible to run dd as a cronjob to backup an entire system as in .img file over a network?
[22:02] <TinaJR> hi
[22:02] <ponyofdeath> hi, trying to get bonding to work with 14.04 and am getting waiting for network configuration during startup. here i my network setup. any ideas? https://bpaste.net/show/1ed5ad94d3bf
[22:03] <pinumbernumber> POLYPUSHER: You might be better tar'ing it up rather than using dd
[22:03] <Jordan_U> POLYPUSHER: You can't make a dd based backup of a block device that's actively being written to. If you are using LVM then you can take a snapshot and backup that.
[22:04] <POLYPUSHER> Ah, thanks pinumbernumber & Jordan_U
[22:04] <Jordan_U> POLYPUSHER: You're welcome.
[22:04] <JustAnotherNoob> hi
[22:04] <aethersis> hello, I have a question related to ALSA and JACK
[22:05] <TinaJR> !ops
[22:05] <TinaJR> !ops
[22:05] <JustAnotherNoob> whats with ur jack
[22:05] <aethersis> there is a big problem with recording with ALSA and playback with JACK. When I record, there is a clicking noise every few seconds and then it becomes more and more frequent. It's similar with playback through JACK - there's clicking when I play a virtual instrument
[22:06] <aethersis> I though it could be occured by varying clock rate but I fixed it to 4GHz and it's still occuring. I tried changing buffer settings in JACK but nothing really helps. JACK runs through ALSA and I bet it's a problem with ALSA in fact
[22:06] <JustAnotherNoob> aethersis: are you musician?
[22:06] <aethersis> kinda, I play baroque music
[22:06] <JustAnotherNoob> aethersis: kool
[22:07] <aethersis> it's really annoying - not very annoying when you just play for yourself (although disturbing) but when I want to record something, such noise is unacceptable!
[22:07] <JustAnotherNoob> aethersis: have no idea dude :)
[22:07] <aethersis> I would be so thankful if anyone could help... I've been fighting with this issue for months and nothing comes to my mind... I even tried different soundcard and the problem still occurs
[22:07] <explosive> aethersis: just change the tempo of the song to match the clicking noise
[22:08] <aethersis> haha good one, but the clicking is irregular so it's impossible
[22:08] <aethersis> it's not like clicking in background, it distorts signal
[22:08] <Alopex> hi all i need urgent help i tried to install to remove --purge a package and there were many packages that were listed too , to remove but i thought whatever an hit enter... then i read sth about xfce .. and i quickly exited but it was too late... now it removed some really important packages including X ... can i somehow install the essentials again quickly_
[22:08] <aethersis> like it's choking on frames
[22:09] <aethersis> Alopex yes - do you use xubuntu?
[22:09] <Alopex> zes
[22:09] <Alopex> yez
[22:09] <Alopex> yes
[22:09] <aethersis> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:09] <aethersis> it should fix it
[22:09] <explosive> Alopex: if that doesn't work, add install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[22:10] <Alopex> ok lemme try.. ill report and pay you in bitcoin if it worked
[22:10] <unixresources> u
[22:10] <int_r> what would be the downsides to using an old release of ubuntu? (9.04)
[22:10] <aethersis> I bet what you did introduced some horrible changes and removed lots of apps so this command is neccessary. Otherwise you could just reinstall missing components but it would take too much time
[22:10] <aethersis> int_r security :D
[22:10] <explosive> int_r: why would you not use 14.04?
[22:10] <int_r> :( shame
[22:11] <int_r> explosive: just the feel of 9.04 hasn't been matched since
[22:11] <aethersis> if you don't like the new look and unity, you can go to xubuntu just like me.
[22:11] <int_r> hm.
[22:11] <int_r> aethersis: what does your xfce  look like? I need some inspiration
[22:11] <k1l> int_r: besides lacking security updates: lacking features,lacking hardware support, lacking bug fixing, no actual software build for it,..
[22:12] <aethersis> it's also lighweight, simplistic and convinient (at least for me). If you want to see what it looks like, you just google it :p
[22:12] <noblow91> to be honest, i just switched to lxle. still ubuntu based, but half-uses the old gnome
[22:12] <xangua> int_r: google images, xfce
[22:12] <int_r> is lxle the lxde distro?
[22:12] <aethersis> there's lubuntu based on lxde
[22:12] <k1l> int_r: try xubuntu or with 14.10 mate-ubuntu
[22:12] <aethersis> that's the distro you are looking for
[22:13] <k1l> int_r: lxle is not a ubuntu version. Lubuntu is the lxde version
[22:13] <aethersis> can anyone help me with the horrible issue with alsa and jackd?
[22:13] <aethersis> k1l why did you ban that person
[22:14] <k1l> aethersis: triggering the ops trigger with no reason (besides to make drama). for future questions you are free to ask in #ubuntu-ops
[22:14] <Eagleman> How do i set the permissions of the others group, and only the others group to nothing (0 or ---)?
[22:14] <Alopex> awesome ... it worked, who were you again?
[22:15] <aethersis> me
[22:15] <facepalm> What's the PPA for pepper flash player for chromium?
[22:15] <aethersis> I helped you xD
[22:15] <xangua> !find pepperflash | facepalm
[22:15] <aethersis> I'm glad it worked. The same thing happened to me when I was starting with ubuntu...
[22:15] <Alopex> aethersis: nice .. thank you , i was really shaking
[22:15] <kostkon> facepalm, you don't need a ppa
[22:15] <Alopex> aethersis: i'm using linux for like 5 years
[22:16] <facepalm> xangua, kostkon thanks.
[22:16] <explosive> Eagleman: chmod o-rwx <file>
[22:16] <aethersis> whenever you want to delete some packet, read what other changes it triggers - if you deleted libgcrypt, everything would collapse xD
[22:17] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash is the up2date manual for pepperflash
[22:18] <facepalm> Thanks OerHeks
[22:21] <noblow91> can anyone suggest a way to optimize ubuntu for a 10 year old system?
[22:22] <facepalm> noblow91, What are the basic specs? cpu/mem/hd
[22:22] <reisio> noblow91: don't use GNOME/Unity/KDE
[22:22] <aethersis> noblow91 don't install ubuntu, install lubuntu - it's much lighter
[22:22] <reisio> don't reinstall just to change DE, though :p
[22:23] <k1l> noblow91: Lubuntu uses zram and its lightweight
[22:24] <cuddylier> Is a list of lsof processes on 2 of 40 boxes a sign that something is dying hardware wise?
[22:25] <cuddylier> Causing the load to go sky high
[22:25] <cuddylier> After random time periods e.g. 2 weeks of being online
[22:25] <noblow91> well im currently using a distro based on lubuntu 10.04, but its still running a bit sluggish.
[22:26] <noblow91> ive got 2gb ram, 60gb hard drive, and i have no idea what my processor speed is. its a celeron m.
[22:26] <Eugene_> so how about that ebola
[22:27] <reisio> noblow91: grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo
[22:27] <reisio> noblow91: lspci | grep -i vga
[22:27] <k1l> Eugene_: this is a technical support channel only. so for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:27] <Jordan_U> noblow91: Try Lubuntu 14.04, which is running fairly well on my 10 year old laptop.
[22:27] <DavyCrockett> if you want to know about ebola listen to the alex jones show
[22:27] <aethersis> k1l do you have any idea about ALSA and JACK?
[22:28] <noblow91> cpu: 1496.263
[22:28] <Jordan_U> DavyCrockett: Please stick to the channel topic here as well, #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussion.
[22:29] <noblow91> holy crap...my phone is faster than my laptop...
[22:29] <k1l> aethersis: sorry, no audio-guy
[22:30] <noblow91> Jordan_U, I will give it a shot.
[22:30] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: What do you mean by "a list of lsof processes"?
[22:31] <cuddylier> Jordan_U Just a lot of lsof processes running
[22:31] <cuddylier> Processes go from 250 to 1200
[22:31] <cuddylier> And the load goes from 5 to 200
[22:31] <cuddylier> And it keeps rising until I reboot
[22:32] <cuddylier> So it would eternally rise to a point then crash probably
[22:32] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: Try running "pstree" and hopefully it will tell you what's spawning these lsof processes.
[22:32] <cuddylier> Jordan_U I've done that before and apparently cron was when it wasn't even enabled and I checked all the cron files.
[22:33] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: Do you have a system experiencing these symptoms currently?
[22:33] <cuddylier> Jordan_U Yep
[22:33] <AlexPortable> What is a CPU soft lockup?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: Please pastebin the output of "pstree" from it.
[22:34] <AlexPortable> i get cpu soft lockup now
[22:34] <reisio> AlexPortable: it's a lockup where you can't see the actor's naughty bits clearly
[22:34] <reisio> actors'*
[22:35] <Jordan_U> AlexPortable: It's some code in the kernel starving other code that would want to execute on a given CPU core, generally caused by a kernel bug leading to an infinite loop.
[22:35] <AlexPortable> cpu freeze for 24s
[22:36] <AlexPortable> so how do i fix?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> AlexPortable: File a bug report with "ubuntu-bug linux".
[22:45] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: http://pastie.org/9645704
[22:46] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: Are you using a non EN locale?
[22:46] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: I selected United Kingdom in the install originally so I guess no
[22:46] <HexSquid> Hello! I might have done something very silly
[22:47] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: It always adds those weird characters around every process name
[22:47] <cuddylier> The weird a's
[22:47] <HexSquid> I've deleted the /dev/sdb device file. Is there any way to restore it?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: Try "pstree -A" :)
[22:48] <Jordan_U> HexSquid: How did you do that, and why?
[22:48] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: http://pastie.org/private/r0du9acgycevc81qmqwraw
[22:48] <cuddylier> The java processes are MC servers
[22:49] <HexSquid> something along the lines of dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[22:49] <cuddylier> you can see the lsof at the top
[22:49] <HexSquid> I was frantically trying to obliterate an sdcard
[22:49] <HexSquid> But I think I've borked my laptops sdcard reader
[22:50] <Jordan_U> HexSquid: You haven't hurt the reader at all, but you have lost all of the data that was on /dev/sdb.
[22:50] <Digipeng> lol
[22:50] <HexSquid> So I figured
[22:50] <Digipeng> reboot the computer and see if it comes back
[22:50] <explosive> HexSquid: in other words, mission accomplished
[22:51] <i3d> I am using 14.04 with gnome-shell, what's the tool to manage window decoration?
[22:51] <HexSquid> Yeah I've tried that - any sdcard I put in is not recognised. /dev/sdb doesn't appear to even be there anymore
[22:52] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: What user is lsof running as?
[22:52] <cuddylier> Jordan_U What command do I need to type to see?
[22:52] <cuddylier> Actually, root
[22:52] <cuddylier> I remember from before
[22:52] <cuddylier> All the MC servers run under their own users so it's definitely not them
[22:53] <Digipeng> HexSquid: you might of just deleted the driver or the links to the driver
[22:53] <cuddylier> It's impossible for someone even with a python script on one to run a process outside of their user
[22:53] <cuddylier> So it's something else randomly generating them at a random point in time
[22:53] <Jordan_U> HexSquid: It probably won't appear as /dev/sdb, but rather as some other /dev/sdX. Try "lsblk" to list all block devices.
[22:53] <i3d> ok found it, it's called tweak-tool
[22:53] <HexSquid> Jordan_U ok, trying ...
[22:55] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: What is the output of "sudo crontab -l"?
[22:55] <cuddylier> # m h  dom mon dow   command
[22:55] <cuddylier> 0 */1 * * * sh /root/modpack_autoupdater.sh
[22:55] <cuddylier> */45 * * * * sh /root/autoupdaterscript_update.sh
[22:55] <cuddylier> Just that
[22:55] <cuddylier> And I made those two scripts, neither go near lsof
[22:55] <cuddylier> They run on the 38 other nodes too every hour.
[22:55] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: Next time for more than one line of output please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[22:56] <cuddylier> Jordan_U Yeah sorry
[22:56] <HexSquid> Jordan_U I just see sda there
[22:57] <snadg3> so im locked out of my lock screen? this has never happened before.. i can see a square around my login name.. but when i click on it, it doesnt do anything
[22:57] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: Do you use PHP? There appears to be a sessionclean script automatically run via cron related to PHP.
[22:57] <HexSquid> Digipeng: this is a lesson in knowing enough to break things :(
[22:58] <snadg3> keyboard input doesn't do anything.. this is latest 14.04.1
[22:58] <cuddylier> Jordan_U Only for this: http://node42.spartanhost.net/uptime.php
[22:58] <cuddylier> But again, runs on all nodes.
[22:58] <cuddylier> Apart from that, php is used for nothing else
[22:58] <Digipeng> lol @Hexquid we all have that temptation
[22:59] <Digipeng> he's missing the link to /dev/sdb
[22:59] <snadg3> has anyone else been locked out of the lock screen ?
[22:59] <snadg3> i want to try and recover my logged in session if possible.. i have unsaved work etc
[22:59] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: "locate sessionclean"
[22:59] <cuddylier> ./usr/lib/php5/sessionclean
[23:00] <snadg3> ideas anyone ? .. i could restart lightdm.. but that will kill all the apps in the session
[23:00] <Jordan_U> cuddylier: If that's the only file named "sessionclean" on your system, it's probably what's causing this (as it's the parent of lsof).
[23:01] <Jordan_U> snadg3: Can you log in at a tty?
[23:01] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: What should I do with it?
[23:01] <snadg3> yes.. thats how im on irc right now
[23:02] <Jordan_U> snadg3: First, try switching to the tty that has your gnome session in it, using ctrl+alt+F{7,8,9}. You should get to a screen saying something along the lines of "Your session is locked, bringing you to the login screen".
[23:02] <snadg3> yes.. in this session, it has my login name with a square around it.. but if i click on it, or type.. it does nothing, its as if its frozen
[23:02] <Jordan_U> snadg3: If you do, make note of what tty you saw that message on, so that we can try unlocking the session via the terminal, then switch back to it once it's unlocked.
[23:03] <snadg3> its F7
[23:03] <Jordan_U> snadg3: Does it have a message about redirecting you elsewhere?
[23:03] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/1356113
[23:03] <snadg3> Jordan_U: nope.. i've never seen this behaviour from lightdm before.. its unusual
[23:04] <Jordan_U> snadg3: Then it's not the screen I'm talking about, try F8.
[23:04] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: This is the sessionclean file: http://pastie.org/private/un7ruizjapapkiwlq9ea
[23:04] <cuddylier> You can see the lsof in it
[23:05] <snadg3> Jordan_U: everything after F7 is blank cursor
[23:06] <cuddylier> Jordan_U: It seems my other server boxes have an empty /var/lib/php5
[23:07] <riph2lemonz> sinc...
[23:08] <riph2lemonz> whatsup kythera
[23:08] <Scyth> hey, someone here could point me a cool chating spot? maybe another server...
[23:08] <riph2lemonz> yes
[23:08] <riph2lemonz> irc.installgentoo.com
[23:08] <riph2lemonz> #installgentoo
[23:08] <Scyth> hahahahaha
[23:08] <kythera> ^ there
[23:08] <kythera> installlgentoo is a nice place full of fine folks
[23:08] <kythera> broad discussions about all sorts of cool stuff
[23:09] <riph2lemonz> we even have our own ftp
[23:09] <riph2lemonz> its pretty epic
[23:09] <kythera> its really nice
[23:09] <Scyth> looks like u r the OP, rite?
[23:09] <riph2lemonz> nope
[23:09] <kythera> Scyth you too can become op its a really open community
[23:09] <riph2lemonz> the ops name is Bananafish
[23:10] <aethersis> when you said bananafish I got hungry
[23:10] <aethersis> there's something subliminal behind it!
[23:10] <riph2lemonz> i love eating banana and fishes
[23:10] <Scyth> crap... now i'm wondreing how a bananafish looks like
[23:10] <aethersis> besides is advertising allowed here? xD
[23:10] <ObrienDave> a banana
[23:10] <Scyth> or a fish?
[23:10] <riph2lemonz> irc.installgentoo.com
[23:10] <aethersis> I just imagined a yellow fish that smells and tastes like banana
[23:10] <riph2lemonz> #installgentoo
[23:10] <riph2lemonz> have fun kiddos
[23:10] <i3d> how to apply gtk2 themes on 14.4? Im using gnome-shell
[23:10] <kythera> Scyth see you in irc.installgentoo.com channel #installgentoo full of nice folks!
[23:11] <Scyth> how can i open a new server without closing this one?
[23:13] <Scyth> i remember (back in the day) that i had to use "/server -m", but this dont work here... or does it?
[23:16] <Digipeng> Scyth: thats off topic, but /server servernamehere works for chatzilla
[23:17] <Hulksmash> i had trouble adding logical partitions for swap and /home because my free space kept becoming unusable after i put the 4th primary position for /
[23:17] <Hulksmash> so i did the 4th primary last, did i do it right?
[23:17] <ObrienDave> you can only have 4 primary partitions
[23:17] <ObrienDave> *up to 4
[23:18] <Hulksmash> i want trying to put a 4th primary. i wanted to put 2 logical but free space was unusable
[23:18] <Hulksmash> wasn't
[23:18] <Jordan_U> Hulksmash: You need to have one of your primary slots used by an "extended" partition, and all of your logical partitions must be within the space allocated to this extended partition.
[23:18] <Hulksmash> wasn't trying to put a fifth primary
[23:19] <Digipeng> Well if you system used uefi not a biggy
[23:19] <bubbasaures> Hulksmash, 3 primaries and a extended for the logicals is your option.
[23:19] <evil_dan2wik> how do I get the ubuntu version?
[23:19] <evil_dan2wik> from terminal
[23:19] <Hulksmash> thank you. i did not see option for extended in the installer, only primary and logical
[23:19] <Hulksmash> i will check again
[23:20] <Mugen_Deutsche> hi guys
[23:20] <Mugen_Deutsche> i am new in ubuntu. i would like to install comfiz
[23:20] <Mugen_Deutsche> how ill i do that ?
[23:20] <Jordan_U> Mugen_Deutsche: Compiz is used by default.
[23:20] <bubbasaures> Mugen_Deutsche, what desktop are you using?
[23:20] <ObrienDave> evil_dan2wik, ubuntu version of what?
[23:20] <Mugen_Deutsche> hmm wait i will check
[23:21] <evil_dan2wik> ObrienDave, as in, 14.something
[23:21] <squinty> evil_dan2wik:  cat /etc/issue
[23:21] <Mugen_Deutsche> it is 14.04.1
[23:22] <ObrienDave> evil_dan2wik, what version are you on?
[23:22] <Mugen_Deutsche> is that ok ?
[23:22] <evil_dan2wik>  Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[23:22] <Mugen_Deutsche> yes that is evil_dan
[23:22] <Mugen_Deutsche> that is my version
[23:22] <ObrienDave> evil_dan2wik, ok, so that's the latest and greatest. what are you looking for, exactly?
[23:23] <evil_dan2wik> ObrienDave, I was just wanting a command to find out that information
[23:23] <evil_dan2wik> someone already provided it though.
[23:24] <ObrienDave> as in, cat /etc/issue?
[23:24] <Mugen_Deutsche> Obrien, i would like to enable all the effects if i have comfiz with this version of ubuntu
[23:25] <ObrienDave> compiz, notice the P in compiz
[23:25] <Hulksmash> what's the website to share screen shot here?
[23:25] <Mugen_Deutsche> oh ok. i am just a newbie sorry
[23:25] <ObrienDave> Mugen_Deutsche, sorry, i use XFCE, not unity
[23:26] <squinty> evil_dan2wik:  might want to consider installing the following   nice utility imho   https://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[23:26] <k1l_> Mugen_Deutsche: its "compiz" and yes, compiz is already running since unity is made with that. you can see "unity-tweak-tool" for settings with unity.
[23:26] <k1l_> Mugen_Deutsche: there is the "ccsm" for settings with compiz, but this is an advanced users tool. if you mess with that you can make ubuntu not login any more
[23:26] <Mugen_Deutsche> is it good too like compiz ?
[23:27] <ObrienDave> it's personal preference. i don;t happen to like unity or gnome
[23:27] <Mugen_Deutsche> kll, will you teach me ?
[23:27] <bubbasaures> Mugen_Deutsche, before messing with compiz, use it's back up for the stock setup, and be aware of resets for the unity desktop and compiz.
[23:28] <squinty> Hulksmash:  could try imgur or imagebin
[23:28] <Guest15266> rus server
[23:28] <Guest15266> give me rus adress
[23:28] <Guest15266> give me rus adress plz
[23:28] <facepalm> !ru | Guest15266
[23:28] <Mugen_Deutsche> where can i see unity tweak tool ?
[23:29] <squinty> Mugen_Deutsche:  you need to install from repo
[23:29] <ObrienDave> Mugen_Deutsche, sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[23:29] <ObrienDave> you've been warned
[23:30] <k1l_> !ru | Guest15266 make a note to not ask in here every hour please
[23:30] <Mugen_Deutsche> Obrien, if i install that will that make my ubuntu unusable ? please help. i am a beginner
[23:30] <facepalm> Sorry k1l_ I didn't know he asked repeatedly.
[23:32] <Hulksmash> i installed lubuntu but it won't boot imgur.com/oLgoYLV
[23:32] <Hulksmash> help please
[23:34] <bubbasaures> Mugen_Deutsche, It is not installing the tools generally that cause problems it's using them, just be careful.
[23:34] <ObrienDave> Mugen_Deutsche, no not unusable, but very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing
[23:35] <Mugen_Deutsche> ok bubba, what are the steps so i won't be messing my newly installed ubuntu ?
[23:35] <Mugen_Deutsche> Obrein, any instructions please ?
[23:35] <eitar> RELIGION IS A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT
[23:35] <eitar> RELIGION IS A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT
[23:35] <eitar> oops wrong channel
[23:35] <eitar> *awks*
[23:36] <unkn-error> how is called GDM, LightGDM, MDM, KDM ?
[23:36] <unkn-error> what software category are they?
[23:36] <squinty> display managers
[23:36] <k1l_> unkn-error: display manager, that is what the DM is in the name
[23:37] <unkn-error> how is called the default Ubuntu display manager and how is called the Xubuntu default display manager?
[23:38] <k1l_> unkn-error: both should use lightdm
[23:38] <unkn-error> okay, thank you
[23:38] <ObrienDave> lightdm is just the logon screen, iirc
[23:39] <k1l_> ObrienDave: that is what the user sees. but it starts and manges xorg in the background.
[23:39] <ax562>  /j #hardware
[23:39] <ObrienDave> k1l_, gotcha
[23:40] <Hulksmash> i installed lubuntu but it won't boot help please imgur.com/oLgoYLV the live session was fine
[23:40] <squinty> Hulksmash:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   first read to see if anything applies to your system.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting  see the "Busybox or Initramfs" reference there
[23:41] <Hulksmash> squinty: ok thank you
[23:52] <Sachiru> Besides Server Edition which is the lightest ubuntu distro out-of-the-box?
[23:53] <daftykins> lubuntu
[23:53] <bazhang> !mini | Sachiru
[23:54] <unkn-error> anyone knows what is " XDMCP "? (like session XDMCP / kde/unity/lxde/xfce )
[23:54] <daftykins> it's a way of graphically fowarding the login sesion from another host
[23:54] <mattwj2002> hi all
[23:54] <unkn-error> hmm
[23:55] <unkn-error> I will try it out then
[23:55] <kmowery> hi, who should i complain to about incorrect checksums on https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/precise/current/ ?
[23:55] <kmowery> and/or am i getting hilariously MITMed
[23:58] <gssqfmn> Hello