/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/14/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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MichaelPWhat going to be more stable 14.10 beta 2 or 14.10 utopic daily builds ?05:02
lordievaderGood morning.06:13
Tm_Tmoin06:23
lordievaderHey Tm_T, how are you?06:24
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Sick_RimmitGood Morning07:58
lordievadero/07:59
Tm_Tlordievader: hi, semibusy with IRC stuff and more busy with work, atleast sun is not ruining my day08:08
lordievaderNo bright sun in your eyes ;)08:12
Riddellhola chicos08:25
RiddellSick_Rimmit, lordievader: able to test 4.14.2 ?08:26
Riddellon utopic08:26
Sick_RimmitSure, it it on todays build ISO's ?08:27
RiddellSick_Rimmit: nope, it's in the super sekret ninjas PPA08:27
Sick_RimmitOK, do you have a link08:27
RiddellSick_Rimmit: super secret apt line sent08:28
Riddellthanks08:32
lordievaderNot sure if I still have a working Utopic around...08:32
lordievaderI'll check later today.08:32
Tm_Tlordievader: worse the weather less people in the streets, I don't mind of bad weather (;08:44
lordievaderTm_T: Hehe true that ;)09:33
soeeRiddell: you have my info from yesterday @ my test 4.14.2 ?09:49
Riddellsoee: all smooth?09:49
Riddellactually it's sgclark you want to ping09:49
soeeRiddell: yes, all smooth when upgrading on utopic with Plasma5 <- sgclark09:50
Riddellsoee: ah with plasma 5, that's probably a smaller selection of software that's upgrading but still useful to test09:54
Riddellsoee: have you tried kontact and kmail?09:54
soeeRiddell: well im not using they daily but they just work from what i see now, though i would have to stress them more09:55
soeeif only kmalilhad some more user friendly interface probably i would switch from thunderbird09:55
soee*lets have a faith in vdt09:56
soeealso both work super fast09:56
soeealso i must say that current plasam5 works just perfect for me and i love it :)09:58
soeeshadeslayer: ping09:59
sgclarkmorning10:04
soeebrb10:04
Riddellhi sgclark 10:05
shadeslayersoee: hi?10:10
soeeshadeslayer: i think you showd me once command to clear icons cache, do you remember it ?10:11
shadeslayerTo clear it? Nope10:11
soeeuhm10:12
tsdgeosRiddell: any ieda why the kdelibs4support packages have no translations?11:10
* Riddell looks11:12
Riddelltsdgeos: I see translations in libkf5kdelibs4support-data 5.3.011:13
tsdgeosand why isn't that installed? :D11:14
Riddelltsdgeos: possibly there was a 5.2.90 version I rolled myself to keep kwin happy that missed them11:14
Riddelltsdgeos: ah yes you may have spotted a missing depends there11:15
Sick_RimmitRiddell: OK It's all up and running on KDE 4.14.2, I will switch to this as daily use desktop, and will let you know if I breack anything11:51
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Riddellsgclark: ↑12:29
Riddellhi Sick_Rimmit_Test 12:31
Sick_Rimmit_TestRiddell: Hi12:31
Sick_Rimmit_TestRunning on Kde 4.14.212:31
Riddellawooga12:32
sgclark?12:33
Riddellsgclark: 4.14.2 working good according to two users12:34
sgclarkok great, working well here. I am attempting a backport12:37
* Riddell building 5.1.0.1 packages of plasma in next-staging12:40
soee;o12:41
soeeRiddell: what is thi s version ? 5.1.0.112:42
Riddellit's 5.1.0 but fixed to not be wrong12:42
* soee is confused12:43
Riddellthe 5.1.0 tars had the wrong version number in side them so I've made 5.1.0.1 to fix that12:44
soeeah ok, thanks for explanation12:46
soeei think there should be some script that will clear some caches after upgrades like to plasam 5.113:09
apacheloggersoee: caches?13:10
apacheloggerRiddell: <3 for the .1 :)13:10
soeefor example new icons in System Settings were visible after i switched icon theme to Breeze Dark and than switched back to Breeze13:10
apacheloggersoee: that's a bug, please file a bug13:11
soeeapachelogger: against what component ?13:11
apacheloggerI have not the sligest idea13:11
soee;p13:11
apacheloggerwhen in doubt use plasmashell 13:11
Riddellhi manchicken 13:12
apacheloggercaches *should* be discarded as the original files mtime changes, however depending on the cache that might not or incorrectly be implemented13:12
apacheloggere.g. in plasma the cache management was all sorts of messed up for most of the 4.x series xD13:12
soeemy bugs against plasmashell seems to be impossible to fix (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339932) :D so better not against plasmashell -.-13:12
ubottuKDE bug 339932 in Application Menu (Kicker) "Plasmashell crashes when navigating through deeper menu levels" [Crash,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]13:12
soeebtw, nvidia drivers 343 from edgers ppa, works fine on Utopic13:19
ovidiu-florincan someone please tell me with what version of CMake will Kubuntu 14.10 ship?13:58
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Riddellovidiu-florin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake says 2.8.12.213:59
ovidiu-florinany plans for CMake 3? maybe in 15.04?13:59
Riddellovidiu-florin: debfx is looking at the transition to cmake 3 but it's not trivial because while cmake is compatible some cmake modules are not13:59
Riddellso yes maybe in 15.04 but who knows13:59
ovidiu-florinok, thanks13:59
Riddellso for KF5 and Plasma 5 we have to make it all work with cmake 214:00
RiddellI'd expect other KDE software to be the same14:00
Riddellapachelogger: new package in debian git oxygen-qt4 (also breeze-qt4 if you haven't spotted it)14:08
Riddellsgclark: so due to my upstream messing up of plasma 5.1, kde sc 4.14.2 is due to be released instead, are you ready to release it or best wait for trusty to be done too do you think?14:20
sgclarkwwell I am not having luck with this script I am afraid14:21
Riddelluh oh, what's up?14:21
sgclarkit will grab like 5 packages but all the rest Package not found in the PPA14:22
sgclarkbut they are there...14:22
sgclarkI am baffeled14:22
Riddellsure it's looking in the right PPA?14:22
sgclarksays ninjas in the file..14:23
sgclarksource="kubuntu-ninjas/ppa"14:23
Riddellwhat command are you running?14:23
sgclark./kubuntu-batch-backport -v 4.14.2 -f utopic -t trusty -V 14.04 -c ~/src/4.14.2/trusty/14:24
Riddelllet me try that and see what happens14:28
sgclarksure14:28
sgclarkthough I would like to resolve this14:28
Riddell** tech board meeting in an hour in #ubuntu-meeting-214:32
Riddellsgclark: running fine here14:33
Riddellsgclark: in the mean time, have you done kde-l10n?14:33
sgclarkkde-l10n?14:34
Riddellthe translations14:34
Riddellwhich also seem to be out of date in the archive :(14:34
sgclarknope, dunno that i ever have14:34
yofelRiddell, sgclark: k-b-b doesn't actually look at the ppa for the package list, it looks at the file that's named kdesc-packages-trusty-backport.txt or so14:35
Riddellsgclark: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide14:35
sgclarkyeah I checked that file yofel, seemed right14:35
Riddellsgclark: if you can do l10n for utopic we can just update that in the archive14:35
yofelhm, no idea why it would quit then14:36
sgclarkRiddell: I will try but I seriously think I messed something up here.14:37
lordievaderWhoo found a Utopic with Plasma4, time to install KDE 4.14.2 :)14:38
RiddellI just got so it could be a problem on the launchpad end " httplib2.ServerNotFoundError: Unable to find the server at api.launchpad.net"14:39
lordievaderRiddell: Do I need the jr or the yofel ninja ppa?14:39
yofelshouldn't matter14:39
yofel(it's just different passwords)14:40
Riddellhttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.1.0.1_utopic.html yay all done14:41
sgclarktoday is not my day. 14:46
sgclarkdebian/build-l10n.sh: source: not found                            14:47
sgclarkcould not source common functions!!14:47
Riddellsgclark: read the build-l10n.sh script should be pretty easy to read14:49
Riddellit tries to checkout bzr lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kubuntu-l10n-common14:49
Riddelland call it common-l10n/14:49
Riddellso does common-l10n/ exist?14:49
* sgclark reads14:52
Riddellit's the first thing it does14:53
sgclarkthat does exist...14:55
sgclarkoh ok, running it in debian directory works14:56
Riddellas with all our kubuntu-automation stuff it's not brilliantly documented or resiliant, don't be afraid to make fixes14:57
sgclarkok14:57
Riddellsgclark: all blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.14.2_trusty.html15:25
sgclarkthanks15:25
sgclarkuploading kde-l10n now15:27
sgclarkseems it was a success15:27
Riddellawooga15:27
Riddellfor bonus points you can backport it to trusty15:27
sgclarkno idea what happened with the backport15:27
sgclarklol15:27
sgclarktody is not my day for backports15:28
Riddellsgclark: backporting kde-l10n should be just using the relevant branch, not the same as the rest of SC15:30
sgclarkahh ok, I get it, yeah I can manage that15:33
sgclarkwhat is language-pack-kde-common?15:34
Riddellit's the meta packages which depend on various language bits notably kde-l10n-xx15:35
Riddellused by the installer when you say you want to install french or whatever15:35
Riddellused to contain all the magically extracted translation files when kde was in main but not now15:36
Riddellwell it still has a few for kde4libs which is in main15:41
Riddellgroovy, 5.1.0.1 in kubuntu-ppa/next15:43
Riddellsgclark: only 5 uploaded? are you uploading the rest? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=l10n15:44
sgclarkRiddell: yeah had the ppa line wrong and many rejects, it is going now tho15:44
Riddellyour poor inbox15:45
* sgclark should have stayed in bed today.15:45
Riddellsgclark: kde-l10n-xx packaging looks sane, if you send me the .changes files I can sign them and you can upload them to the archive15:50
sgclarkok15:51
BluesKaj_Hey folks15:55
Riddellapachelogger: tech board meeting in #ubuntu-meeting-2 hopefully shortly15:55
soeehiho BluesKaj_15:58
BluesKaj_hey soee15:59
Riddellsgclark: hmm looks like I need the .dsc files as well to sign16:05
Riddellinfact maybe I need all the files16:05
sgclarkoh hmm16:06
sgclarklet me put in dropbox, seems a bit much to email.16:06
lordievaderUpgrade to 4.14.2 seem to have went fine. Gonna reboot now.16:07
Riddellsgclark: well if I need them all I'll just get them from kubuntu-ninjas16:08
Riddellsgclark: it's good, just the .dsc and the .changes file16:08
sgclarkok16:08
Riddellsgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kde-l10n-changes.tar.xz16:14
lordievaderRiddell: 4.14.2 installed and booted successfully :D16:20
Riddellsgclark: ↑16:20
Riddellgreat16:20
sgclarkyay16:20
lordievaderNice work :)16:21
sgclarkRiddell: I can't seem to upload sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/8559931/ I replaced with yours16:22
Riddellsgclark: just means it doesn't know about my gpg key16:22
Riddellsgclark: use  dput --unchecked16:23
sgclarkbut it did not seem t put any packages anywhere16:23
sgclarkthat worked thanks16:25
Riddellyay16:25
soeesomeone can confirm that in Desktop properties (where we select wallpaper), mouse scrolling does not work ? (Plasma5 here)16:32
Riddellhmm, libqapt2 doesn't seem to get build from source16:35
Riddellit's been replaced by the qt5 libqapt316:35
BluesKajsoee, which layout?16:35
Riddellbut muon still uses libqapt216:35
Riddellthis isn't how it's supposed to be I'm sure16:35
soeeBluesKaj: dESKTOP16:36
soeeBluesKaj: if we open wallpapers list the page is scrolled automaticaly so teh current one is visible, but we cant use mouse scroll there16:36
Riddelloh ug debian git has a qapt but with full sources16:36
BluesKajsoee, can't confirm , but right click doesn't bring up any dialog options16:38
sgclarkscrolling does not appear to work 16:39
sgclarkmy login is soooo messed up16:40
sgclarkbut kmail works woot16:42
soeeBluesKaj: right click where >16:43
BluesKajsoee, in the wallpapers page16:43
Riddellapachelogger: qapt now has kubuntu_unstable branch with our packaging in it for qt5 build16:44
Riddellin kde-extras/qapt git.debian16:44
soeeBluesKaj: what popup dialog should be there ?16:44
soeeok im off for 1,5 h16:45
shadeslayerRiddell: eep16:45
shadeslayerRiddell: seed_base: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/16:45
BluesKajsoee, assuming copy, paste remove move to etc16:46
Riddellshadeslayer: pardon?16:47
shadeslayerRiddell: meta package's seed_base is wrong16:48
Riddellshadeslayer: where?16:48
shadeslayerRiddell: apt-get source kubuntu-plasma5-meta ?16:48
Riddellhmm, that looks wrong16:48
Riddellshadeslayer: but why aren't you using it from bzr?16:49
Riddellfix uploaded to next-staging16:50
shadeslayercheerio16:51
shadeslayeralso I'm confused16:53
shadeslayershouldn't bzr have the same stuff as the PPA16:53
Riddellshadeslayer: the seed is in bzr and is mirrored on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/, the meta package uses the seed from bzr (but can also use the seed from that mirror which I set to startsky back when the mirror wasn't updated with plasma5 seed)16:54
Riddellapachelogger: muon packaging also in debian:kde-extras/muon  kubuntu_unstable branch16:55
Riddellthe master branch there seems to be a random package made years ago16:55
shadeslayerack16:57
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sgclark Riddell: err was 4.14.2 put somewhere the world can get it or ? should we mention it?17:10
shadeslayersgclark: he's gone17:24
shadeslayerI doubt you'll see him before tomorrow17:24
sgclarkahh okies17:24
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Riddellsgclark: nope, but it should be copied to kubuntu-ppa/ppa (Kubuntu Updates) for utopic and kubuntu-ppa/backports (Kubuntu Backports) for trusty19:28
Riddellsgclark: did you upload kde-l10n?19:28
sgclarkRiddell: sorry thought you were gone. kde-l10n is done19:54
soeeRiddell: when upgrading to 5.1.0.1: dpkg: ostrzeżenie: libkf5sysguard5-data: plik konfiguracyjny "/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf" nie jest plikiem ani dowiązaniem (= "/etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper.conf")20:51
soeethe warning says its not a file or symlink20:51

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