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valorieTheFakeazneD525: we now have the kubuntu docs on userbase as well, at least those we are working on01:47
valorieuserbase.kde.org/Kubuntu as I recall01:48
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ap0cWaffl3x:  www.pendrivelinux.com is a good place to start10:44
ap0cWaffl3x:  You can use a CD / DVD / USB-Drive / SD-Card10:45
Waffl3xI dont mind partitioning like I said10:45
ap0cwell in order to install the OS you will need to put it onto a medium listed above ^10:46
Waffl3xwould external drive work?10:46
Waffl3xprobably not huh10:46
KwpolskaWaffl3x: it could10:46
KwpolskaWaffl3x: but you are better off (temporarily) putting it on a thumbdrive10:47
ap0cI never really owned an external, aren't they basically a big USB?10:47
Waffl3xill do that if I can find one10:48
Kwpolskaap0c: they are, pretty much10:48
ap0chttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/10:48
ap0cUbuntu 7.04 is dated but the guide is relevant I think10:49
Waffl3xill be right back10:49
ap0cDo you have a blank CD?10:49
Waffl3xI have a usb stick, I just found it10:54
ap0cHow many GB?10:55
Waffl3xlet me check10:55
Waffl3x2910:56
ap0cIf you have at least 700MB it's large enough to hold a live-disk of Ubuntu10:56
Waffl3xwait no10:56
Waffl3x2510:56
ap0c25GB?10:56
Waffl3xyes10:57
ap0cThat's plenty10:57
ap0chttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/10:57
Waffl3xbut its not my personal drive10:57
Waffl3xso I need to install to the disk after10:57
ap0cAre there files on it?  If there are you will need to back them up10:57
Waffl3xkk10:58
ap0cfollow the tutorial on that page I linked ^ it will also download the .iso for you10:58
Waffl3xshould I make a partition first or after?10:59
KwpolskaWaffl3x: partitions are created in the kubuntu installer10:59
ap0cYou can do that within the kubuntu installer10:59
Waffl3xand it wont fuck with my files?10:59
KwpolskaWaffl3x: shouldn’t10:59
KwpolskaWaffl3x: but do have backups10:59
ap0cif you completely wipe windows, everything will be gone on your C: drive10:59
Waffl3xfuck10:59
Waffl3xap0c: I decided to instal to my desktop on a partition11:00
Waffl3xim not going to wipe my laptop right now11:00
KwpolskaWaffl3x: then you shouldn’t lose all data11:00
ap0cyou said you have an external HDD, you could backup what you need on there11:00
ap0cif you do need to back anything up11:00
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you should always have backups, whether or not you’re messing with your drive11:00
Waffl3xtheres like no space on it :/11:00
KwpolskaWaffl3x: dropbox, onedrive, google drive?11:00
Waffl3xno11:01
Waffl3xI guess ill just risk it11:01
Waffl3xI have nothing important on the drive anyway11:01
Waffl3xjust my windows install11:01
Waffl3xeverything important is on my other drive11:01
ap0cif you have nothing of importance than you don't really need to back it up imo11:01
ap0cI use a secondary HDD as well for bulk file storage ^11:02
KwpolskaWaffl3x: don’t back it up then, it shouldn’t break anyway (though it’s still a possibility)11:02
* Kwpolska loves cloud storage11:02
ap0cWaffl3x: are you following that YUMI tutorial?11:02
Kwpolskawhy not follow (semi-)official ubuntu docs?11:02
ap0cit'll get you a linux distro of your choice installed to a flash drive to boot from, easily11:02
Waffl3xI havent started yet11:03
KwpolskaWaffl3x: follow this (but choose Kubuntu instead): http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows11:03
ap0cYumi is an updated version of Pen Drive Linux's USB installer11:04
Waffl3xso I should use yumi?11:04
Waffl3xor what he linked?11:04
* Kwpolska would trust Ubuntu.com, one would imageine they are more experienced11:04
ap0chttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ <11:05
* ap0c sees Pen Drive Linux's USB creator at the top of the page on Ubuntu.com11:05
Kwpolskabesides, 14.10 is released in 9 days11:06
ap0cthey both work the same man11:06
Kwpolskaap0c: they might.11:06
ap0cyou just download an .iso and choose it with Pen Drive Linux' USB installer, and with YUMI it downloads the .iso for you (or you can choose a local .iso)11:07
Kwpolskaap0c: dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX for life11:07
ap0cWaffl3x: how's it coming along11:09
Waffl3xim starting11:09
Waffl3x:/11:09
Waffl3xive been looking through my harddrive11:10
Waffl3xto double check nothing there is important11:10
ap0cto install xchat when you get on linux, if you're on *buntu you can type in sudo apt-get install xchat into the terminal11:11
Waffl3xIMPORTANT: Ensure that all internal hard drives are disconnected from your computer during the install (pull your SATA or IDE cables)11:11
Waffl3xwat11:11
Waffl3xseriously?11:11
Waffl3xokay11:12
Waffl3xremind me what tutorial im looking at11:12
ap0chttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/11:12
KwpolskaWaffl3x: where didd you read that IMPORTANT invalid advice?11:13
ap0cI'm wondering the same11:13
Waffl3xhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/11:14
KwpolskaWaffl3x: don’t read that11:14
Waffl3xI guess it was an old link11:14
KwpolskaWaffl3x: it’s old and does not work in your case11:14
Waffl3xokay11:15
Waffl3xgot the program11:15
ap0copen it up11:16
Waffl3xso what linux do I want?11:17
KwpolskaWaffl3x: kubuntu11:17
ap0cI recommend Kubuntu for distribution, but you could also try Ubuntu or Xubuntu (they differ by Window Manager)11:17
Kwpolskaap0c: desktop environment*11:17
Waffl3xill take your word for it11:17
KwpolskaWaffl3x: If you want a Windows 7-like experience, go for Kubuntu11:17
ap0cyeah Kwpolska, DE*11:17
ap0cit's 7:17 AM11:17
ap0ctrying to help this guy out before I pass out ^11:18
Waffl3xdo I need to download the iso myself?11:18
ap0cif you leave Local iso selected unchecked I think it will auto-download it for you11:18
Waffl3xim confused because it says step 3 select your kubuntu*desktop*.iso11:19
ap0cdid you do step 2?11:19
Waffl3xyes11:19
ap0cwww.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu11:19
Waffl3xthere was a checkbox11:20
Waffl3xopen download11:20
Waffl3xI clicked it11:20
Waffl3xand its downloading11:20
ap0con Yumi?11:20
Waffl3xno11:20
Waffl3xchrome11:20
ap0coh, you could have just said 'it's downloading'11:21
Waffl3xdo I want to format the drive?11:21
ap0cbut ideally you would want to click save for a file you aren't going to open right away11:21
ap0cand yeah11:21
Waffl3xwhat do you mean click save for a file you aren't going to open right away11:22
Waffl3xthis isnt internet explorer :)11:22
ap0cin chrome/firefox/etc., if you don't want to open something it's usually better to click 'save'11:22
Waffl3xbut yeah chrome doesnt do that, just downloads straight into my downloads folder11:22
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you are fine then11:22
Waffl3xoh wait, I think I comunicated something wrong11:23
ap0conce it downloads just choose the .iso with Yumi11:23
Waffl3xI did click the checkbox in yumi11:23
Waffl3xbut it opened the link in chrome11:23
ap0cunless it automatically fills out the directory once its downloaded11:23
ap0calmost done?11:25
Waffl3xheh11:25
Waffl3xmy internet is not even close to lightning fast11:25
Waffl3x:(11:25
Waffl3xyou might even want to leave instructions and go to bed11:25
KwpolskaWaffl3x: *cough* timezones *cough*11:26
Waffl3xsays 20 minutes left11:26
ap0cDoes it have an estimate?11:26
Waffl3xKwpolska: he said it was 7 AM11:26
ap0cyou could check out www.whylinuxisbetter.net11:26
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ap0cthis looks a little dated haha11:27
ap0chttp://www.makeuseof.com/tag/whats-this-linux-thing-and-why-should-i-try-it/ - here is a little article on Linux11:28
ap0caimed at beginners11:28
ap0c@ Waffl3x11:28
KwpolskaWaffl3x: full instructions: burn the ISO to your USB drive when it downloads (using yumi), reboot, boot from USB (if you can’t figure out how to do it, google around), and follow the installer’s instructions.  Partitioning should be proposed automatically.11:29
ap0cWaffl3x: I recommend creating a separate partition for /home/ if the partition manager doesn't automatically11:32
Waffl3xso make 2 new partitions?11:33
Waffl3xmaybe I just partition both my harddrives ones11:33
Waffl3xonce11:33
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you will need at least three partitions: windows, linux /, linux /home  — and you may also need/want linux swap11:34
ap0cyou'll need a root partition (OS files and packages mostly) , a home partition (your user account folders are stored here and most of your programs) and swap (a secondary RAM, like Windows Virtual RAM sort of; good for idling)11:35
Kwpolskaap0c: has support been fixed, or is this still an urban myth and having home come over from a different os doesn’t work?11:35
Kwpolskaap0c: most of your programs’ configuration*11:35
Waffl3xso I have 2 harddrives, a 500gb and a tb one11:36
Waffl3xwhat do you reccomend I do?11:36
Waffl3xOS drive partitioned once and the content drive partitioned twice?11:36
Waffl3xor the other way around?11:36
ap0chttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning11:37
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you have a weird definition of the word “partitioning”11:37
ap0cKwpolska: what do you mean - support for?11:37
Waffl3xhow so?11:37
Waffl3xoh11:37
Kwpolskaap0c: /home on separate pertition → install new linux11:37
ap0c I don't know, this is the first distro I've ran in awhile11:38
ap0cI haven't tried to install another distro yet11:38
KwpolskaWaffl3x: You want at least two partitions on the OS drive (windows + linux / + swap?) and possibly two on the data drive (windows data + linux /home)11:38
Waffl3xthats what I meant11:39
Waffl3x2 on os and 3 on data or 3 on os and 2 on data11:39
Kwpolskaap0c: years ago, I’ve had issues when I tried that.  Haven’t installed a Linux on my main computer since late 2010.11:39
KwpolskaWaffl3x: 3 on OS11:39
ap0c3 patitions - ext4 root partition, ext4 /home partition , linux swap11:40
Waffl3xat this rate I should just buy a new harddrive11:40
ap0con your OS drive ^ if by 'content drive' you mean storage of movies / pictures / etc. , don't do anything to that11:40
Waffl3xactually11:40
Waffl3xthats a good idea11:40
Waffl3xIll go dig up an old harddrive11:41
Waffl3xmy content drive consists of programs11:41
ap0cis your content drive a separate HDD?11:41
Waffl3xand games11:41
Waffl3xyes it is11:41
ap0cyou must not understand partitioning ,11:41
ap0cyou only have to partition one HDD11:41
ap0cyou can keep your files on the other11:42
Waffl3xno I understand partitioning11:42
ap0cwell you seem to think that you have to partition your secondary HDD11:42
Waffl3xI dont know what I was thinking actually11:42
Waffl3xI thought it would be better to partition the second drive for linux programs I guess11:42
KwpolskaWaffl3x: Actually, you can just create one new partition on the OS drive, for Linux.11:42
KwpolskaWaffl3x: Also, you can’t partition for “linux programs”.  You basically can’t put them anywhere else but /usr which must be on the same partition as everything else11:43
ap0cyou don't really need a ton of storage for linux, 500GB is plenty11:43
ap0cI am running on a 500GB HDD with a secondary 500GB HDD11:44
ap0c1TB total11:44
Kwpolskaap0c: main hdd, create ONE 100 gb partition for everything.  should be enough.11:44
KwpolskaWaffl3x: ↑11:45
ap0cKwpolska: 100gb for WoW, Diablo3, TF2, CS:GO, CS:S, L4D2, etc. , on top of other stuff? *cough*11:45
Kwpolskaap0c: I’m assuming they are going to game on Windows anyways11:45
ap0cHe said he wants to wipe Win811:45
Kwpolskaap0c: he did not.11:45
ap0cin #python earlier ^11:46
Kwpolskaap0c: besides, an exception to the rule: steam games can go anywhere on the system11:46
ap0cby default they go in your /home/username/.steam folder11:46
Kwpolskaap0c: you are asked where you want to put them (hell, even on your NTFS partition).  And if not, symlinks.11:47
ap0cWaffl3x: how's that .iso download going?11:47
Waffl3xjust finished11:49
ap0calright use Yumi to create a live boot USB11:49
Waffl3xKwpolska: I have 219 gb left11:49
KwpolskaWaffl3x: where?11:49
Waffl3xon my os drive11:49
ap0cKwpolska: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227502/where-are-steam-games-installed11:49
KwpolskaWaffl3x: so you will have 119 left on the windows drive and 100 gb for the linux drive11:50
Waffl3xoh I see11:50
Waffl3xI thought you meant create 3 100 partitions11:50
Waffl3xthen I read one11:50
ap0cWaffl3x: do you want to keep Windows 8 installed?11:50
Kwpolskaap0c: and?  I explicitly remember TF2 asking me where it wants to be installed.11:50
Waffl3xap0c: I allready said I decided to install on my desktop11:51
Kwpolskaap0c: I also explicitly remember throwing it onto /media/shared, my ntfs drive11:51
KwpolskaWaffl3x: want to keep windows on that computer?11:51
Waffl3xyes11:51
ap0cKwpolska: and? this was like 5 years ago11:52
Kwpolskaap0c: one*11:52
Kwpolskaap0c: less, even11:52
Waffl3xto clarify im going to use linux mostly for programming11:52
Kwpolskatheeere.11:52
Waffl3xactually11:52
Waffl3xI dont know what im going to use it for11:52
Waffl3xI dont know why im doing this11:52
Waffl3xbut it sounds fun so im doing it11:52
Waffl3xanyway11:53
Waffl3xon yumi a step 4 popped up11:53
Waffl3xset a persistent file size for storing changes11:53
jubo2I have a USB stick with Kubuntu14.04.111:53
jubo2My intention is to build and run a local network of MaidSafe nodes11:53
ap0cthat basically just allows you to use part of the USB file to store files/settings etc., not necessary if you are installing the OS directly from USB11:54
jubo2Should I download something newer then Kubuntu14.04.1 ?11:54
jubo2ap0c: I know about livecd. It boots the root filesystem to RAM11:54
Kwpolskajubo2: there is nothing newer as of now11:54
Kwpolskajubo2: there will be in 9 days though11:55
jubo2Kwpolska: 'k dänks11:55
jubo2ah 14.10.0 coming ?11:55
Kwpolskajubo2: just 14.1011:55
ap0cWaffl3x: is the USB writing?11:56
jubo2They are saying in #debian-offtopic that GCC 4.8 or newer11:56
jubo2so either Debian8 ( doesn't exist yet, currently just codename "jessie" )11:57
Waffl3xits going ap0c11:57
jubo2I check11:57
jubo2How do I check my GCC version ?11:57
jubo2'gcc -v' ?11:58
ap0cyes ^11:58
Kwpolskajubo2: try it and see™11:58
jubo24.8.211:58
jubo2I saw something about 4.8.8 in the MaidSafe documentation11:59
jubo2I check.11:59
Waffl3xit just asked11:59
Waffl3xdo I want to add more things now on F:11:59
ap0cnope.12:00
ap0cyou're on laptop right now Waffl3x?12:00
Waffl3xyes12:00
ap0cso you are installing to desktop?12:00
Waffl3xyes12:00
Waffl3xso I plug the usb in and restart desktop?12:00
KwpolskaWaffl3x: yes12:00
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you must tell your desktop to boot up from usb, though12:00
ap0cyeah, and bring up the boot menu while its starting12:01
Waffl3xso boot to bios12:01
ap0cno, boot menu12:01
Waffl3xhmm12:01
Waffl3xim not completely sure how to do that12:01
KwpolskaWaffl3x: this all depends on your computer12:01
KwpolskaWaffl3x: when you turn the computer on, you should see a screen telling you what to press.12:02
jubo2Finally found it - http://maidsafe.net/maidsafe-examples/en/index.html12:02
KwpolskaWaffl3x: look for “boot device”, if you can’t find it, try entering setup12:02
ap0cWhat manufacturer is the desktop?12:03
jubo2It shows how to build and boot a 12 local node MaidSafe Network12:03
ap0cWaffl3x12:03
Waffl3xyes12:03
jubo2I need this so I can get to writing Hello World in C++12:03
Waffl3xasus12:03
Waffl3xoh12:03
Waffl3xthe full desktop12:03
jubo2never ever touched the stuff before12:03
Waffl3xme12:03
ap0cF3 should be your boot menu, or Esc12:03
ap0cfor Asus12:03
ap0cone is the BIOS the other is boot menu12:03
jubo2multiple inheritance.. sound weird..12:03
Kwpolskajubo2: seriously now?!12:03
ap0cjubo212:03
Waffl3xdel is for bios12:03
Kwpolskajubo2: you need all this magic for hello world?12:04
jubo2Kwpolska: nonono..12:04
ap0cuse g++ from CLI12:04
ap0cWaffl3x: what manufacturer is the desktop12:04
ap0cAsus?12:04
jubo2Intention is to implement http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Voting and votecounting and a few other things as MaidSafe apps12:04
KwpolskaWaffl3x: just look at the screen when it boots12:05
jubo2since the thing has petabytes and exabytes of disk in time it's the perfect place to store history data from the polling system12:05
KwpolskaWaffl3x: aim for boot device, enter setup if there is no such option12:05
ap0chttp://www.desertcrystal.com.au/bootkeys12:05
jubo2Kwpolska: Consumium / Consumerium - Enhancing Consumer Informedness plans to use a dissensus voting system with open and discardable voter ids with anonymity ( at the start at least )12:07
Kwpolskajubo2: Thank you for throwing a wall of gibberish at me.12:08
Waffl3xive been bugging my mom for the password for the motherboard12:08
Waffl3xsome idiot (my uncle) decided it was a good idea to put one on12:08
Waffl3xnevermind12:09
KwpolskaWaffl3x: murder the cmos12:09
Waffl3xnothing worked12:09
jubo2Kwpolska: open, anonymous at start and discardable voter ids. Dissensus voting system as opposed to consensus voting system12:09
Kwpolskajubo2: please stop.12:09
jubo2Everything I said was making sense but whaevs I stop pinging you12:09
ap0creset the CMOS battery jumper12:09
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ap0con the motherboard12:10
jubo2Is 14.10 LTS ?12:10
Waffl3xap0c: I put in nothing12:10
Kwpolskajubo2: no, 14.04 is12:10
Waffl3xand it worked12:10
jubo2'kdänks12:10
Waffl3xand again12:10
Waffl3xmanufacture = me12:10
Waffl3xmotherboard = asus12:11
ap0cWaffl3x: press ESC to get the boot option menu12:11
ap0cbefore the OS loads while the computer is initially starting up12:11
Waffl3xso since im in bios12:11
Waffl3xshould I just change boot priotiyu?12:11
ap0cpower down - restart - press ESC12:11
KwpolskaWaffl3x: we recommend an one-off boot device change12:12
KwpolskaWaffl3x: using the boot device menu (press ESC while booting up)12:12
ap0cis your linux USB in the desktop?12:12
Waffl3xyes12:12
ap0cpress ESC while booting up to load the boot menu and select the removable media12:12
ap0cname can vary depending on flash drive manufacturer12:13
Waffl3xshit12:13
Waffl3xcomputer just died12:13
Waffl3xI think its fine12:13
Waffl3xbut idk12:13
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you should stop being scared of things12:14
KwpolskaWaffl3x: tinkering and experimenting is 99% of IT12:14
Waffl3xno its doing the thing12:14
Waffl3xits happened before12:14
ap0c'doing the thing'12:14
Waffl3xnvm12:14
willianruizhola12:14
KwpolskaWaffl3x: let me guess, is your PSU dead?12:15
jubo2This is even realer then the real thing - https://github.com/maidsafe/MaidSafe/wiki - The scots are going to save the World from computing, storage and transmission done badly12:15
Waffl3xI didnt get in boot menu though12:15
ap0ctry again12:15
ap0cdon't press and hold the key, press it repeatedly (speed doesn't really matter here)12:16
Waffl3xKwpolska: a long time ago it did this thing where it got stuck booting, one of the red lights on the motherboard got stuck on too, and it stayed that way for hours12:16
Waffl3xthen at some point after turning it off and on a bunch of times it fixed itself12:17
Waffl3xlike we couldnt get in bios or anything12:17
Waffl3xresetting bios didnt help12:17
ap0cyou could reinstall bios12:17
Kwpolskawhy12:17
Kwpolskaap0c: this is dangerous and not really needed in most cases12:18
Waffl3xin any case12:18
Waffl3xit didnt do it now12:18
KwpolskaWaffl3x: your PSU may be dead, or you may have other issues.12:18
ap0cyeah sorry I didn't mean to say that , I was thinking of vBIOS12:18
ap0cWaffl3x:  what happened when you booted up and pressed ESC?  did you try multiple times?  give it a few shots12:19
Waffl3xokay12:20
Waffl3xim in boot manager12:20
ap0cselect the removable media12:20
Waffl3xKwpolska: it happened a long time ago and hasn't happened since12:20
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you *may* need to go into hard drives → your USB drive, though this — again — depends on the specific computer you’re using12:20
Waffl3xI fucked up12:21
Waffl3xI went to advanced settings12:21
ap0crestart try again12:21
Waffl3xokay12:26
Waffl3xim in boot manager12:26
KwpolskaWaffl3x: find your way to booting from the usb12:27
Waffl3xwhat now12:27
Waffl3xuh12:27
KwpolskaWaffl3x: boot from usb12:27
Waffl3xtheres like no options here12:27
KwpolskaWaffl3x: what is there?12:27
Waffl3xjust windows 712:27
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you got into Windows boot manager, and not into boot device choice.12:28
Waffl3xwell fuck12:28
Waffl3xexp is a lie then12:28
Waffl3xesc*12:28
KwpolskaWaffl3x: wah, just do it in bios12:28
KwpolskaWaffl3x: also, learn how to tinker and experiment12:28
KwpolskaWaffl3x: hand-holding won’t get you too far12:29
Waffl3xboot menu is in bios12:29
KwpolskaWaffl3x: if you can’t get into the actual thing, do it in bios12:29
KwpolskaWaffl3x: the thing is part of bios, but usually not accessed via “enter setup”12:30
Waffl3xit is in the bios12:30
ap0claunch your USB from there12:30
Waffl3xthere is 2 usb selections12:30
Waffl3xthey are identical except one has UEFI: on the front12:30
KwpolskaWaffl3x: don’t do uefi12:30
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you will be better off if you stay with the tried-and-true BIOS and ignore UEFI altogether12:31
Waffl3xwhats the difference12:31
KwpolskaWaffl3x: do yourself a favor and ignore UEFI altogether12:31
Waffl3xI dont understand what the difference is12:32
Waffl3xbut ill take your word on it12:32
KwpolskaWaffl3x: UEFI is only going to get you problems12:32
KwpolskaWaffl3x: so kindly ignore its existence12:32
KwpolskaWaffl3x: and hate your manufacturer for blessing your device with it12:32
Waffl3xokay I have 2 options now12:33
Waffl3xcontinue to boot from first hd12:33
ap0cno12:33
Waffl3xand linus distributions12:33
Kwpolskalinux*12:33
ap0clinux distributions...12:33
Waffl3xI assume linux distributions12:33
ap0cofc12:33
Kwpolskawe aren’t distributing Linus Torvalds the human around, are we now?12:33
ap0cfirst hd will boot your primary HDD that starts with your main OS (normal startup)12:33
jubo2Ait'12:33
Waffl3xokay so12:34
Waffl3xim in the installer12:34
ap0chaha Kwpolska I thought the same12:34
Waffl3xanything I need to do?12:34
jubo2found the hard drive and the USB thingy with Kubuntu14.04.112:34
Waffl3xor can I just start kubuntu12:34
ap0cstart Kubuntu12:34
KwpolskaWaffl3x: start kubuntu12:34
KwpolskaWaffl3x: then run the installer on the desktop and follow its instructions which are written in English in a way that you will understand them12:34
KwpolskaWaffl3x: As you may have already noticed, I strongly promote that you do things on your own, without hand-holding, in order to learn how things work.12:35
Waffl3xyes I know12:35
Waffl3xis the third party software anygood?12:36
KwpolskaWaffl3x: what do you mean by that?12:36
ap0cyes it's flash and stuff12:36
Kwpolskaah, this install option.12:36
jubo2loading Kubuntu .. then install .. then update .. then build MaidSafe local network12:36
ap0cKwpolska there is some stuff like Adobe Flash etc. that is considered third party12:36
Kwpolskaap0c: I forgot about this.12:36
Kwpolskaap0c: too much distros that are (a) get them yourself (b) we baked that in for you12:37
ap0cas time goes on you would figure they include install options for basic programs mostly everyone uses that are free anyways12:37
Kwpolskaap0c: like?12:38
ap0care we talking about the installer including an option for third party software?12:38
ap0cbecause one of the first things a lot of people do is install flash when they have a distro that doesn't have it, if they browse the web a lot12:39
Waffl3xI know after you told me to tinker12:39
Waffl3xbut I have no idea how to to this part12:40
Waffl3xit all looks wrong12:40
Waffl3xthe disk setup12:40
KwpolskaWaffl3x: take a screenshot and upload it to imgur12:40
ap0cye ^12:40
ap0cgood ol' imgur12:40
Waffl3xuhm12:40
Waffl3xhow?12:41
Waffl3xif im installing it12:41
jubo2Now installing Kubuntu14 :D :D12:41
ap0chttp://docs.kubuntu.org/installation.html#disk-setup12:41
KwpolskaWaffl3x: um, press printscreen?12:41
ap0cWaffl3x: documentation on installing kubuntu12:41
ap0cto upload to imgur press print screen and then save the file and upload it on imgur.com12:41
Waffl3xKwpolska: but after I press print screen how do I get it out of the computer12:41
KwpolskaWaffl3x: you have internet access on the computer, don’t you?12:41
Waffl3xyeah but12:41
Waffl3xhow do I get out of the installing part12:42
KwpolskaWaffl3x: press printscreen12:42
KwpolskaWaffl3x: this should bring up the usual screenshot app12:42
Waffl3xit did not12:42
KwpolskaWaffl3x: also, alt+tab is also a things over here on linux12:42
Waffl3xI can alt tab12:43
Waffl3xbut theres nothing to alt tab to12:43
KwpolskaWaffl3x: try print screen now?12:43
KwpolskaWaffl3x: there is no show desktop at the end?12:43
Waffl3xn12:43
Waffl3xno12:43
Waffl3xjust the installation screen12:43
ap0cWaffl3x: you are pressing the button above Insert / right of F12 , right?12:43
Kwpolskawhy must there be so many things you can configure in kde12:43
Waffl3xmy keyboard is weird12:44
Waffl3xinsert is at the top12:44
Waffl3xbeside f12 is scroll lock12:44
Waffl3x:)12:44
KwpolskaWaffl3x: quit the installer, open a browser, press printscreen, you’ll figure the rest out12:45
ap0cWaffl3x: http://docs.kubuntu.org/installation.html#disk-setup official kubuntu documentation on installation12:45
Waffl3xshould I just check manual?12:45
ap0cyeah12:45
ap0cI did mine manually12:46
KwpolskaWaffl3x: which manual?12:46
KwpolskaWaffl3x: manual paritioning?12:46
Waffl3xyes12:46
KwpolskaWaffl3x: then do.12:46
KwpolskaWaffl3x: just make sure it doesn’t format things it shouldn’t format.12:46
Waffl3xI have no idea what to do on this page12:46
Waffl3xwhy is there 2 things per harddrive?12:47
KwpolskaWaffl3x: what two things?12:47
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Waffl3xthere is /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb /dev/sdb112:48
Waffl3xon the ones with 1 it shows type ntfs12:48
Waffl3xand size and used12:48
Waffl3xI dont understand what /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are12:48
ap0c/dev/sda is your primary HDD12:48
Waffl3xwhat is /dev/sda1 then12:49
Waffl3xOH12:49
KwpolskaWaffl3x: /dev/sdX → entire drive12:49
KwpolskaWaffl3x: /dev/sdX1 → the first partition on the drive12:49
Waffl3xyeah I got it12:49
Waffl3xso I select /dev/sda and click new partition table?12:50
ap0cyou will need free space first12:50
Waffl3xit says...12:50
Waffl3xyou have selected an entire device to partition if you procede with creating a new ppartition table on the device then all current partitions will be removed12:51
Kwpolskano do not12:51
KwpolskaWaffl3x: want to keep windows?12:51
Waffl3xim just saying what it says12:52
Waffl3xI know what it means12:52
KwpolskaWaffl3x: answer no to the message.12:52
Waffl3xI dont know what to click to make a new partition without killing that one12:52
ap0cresize the current partition12:52
Waffl3xoh12:53
Waffl3xOHH12:53
Waffl3xI feel dumb12:53
Waffl3xim assuming I set use as to ntfs?12:53
ap0cfor your new partitions now12:54
ap0cno*12:54
ap0cfor linux you want ext4 for your /home partition and your root partition, and swap12:55
Waffl3xwhat am I setting it to then?12:55
Waffl3xoh12:55
Waffl3xsorry12:55
Waffl3xso Kwpolska said to make 1 partition of 100 gb, what do you say?12:55
ap0cmake a 25-30GB ext4 partition with the mount point as / , 60GB ext4 with mount point as /home, and the rest as linux swap12:56
ap0cwell linux swap should be like 110% of your RAM really, not a certain size12:57
Waffl3xdo I really need to do a swap partition?12:58
Waffl3xI have 16 gb of ram12:58
Waffl3xand format the partition right?12:59
ap0cyeah12:59
ap0cdon't format your NTFS partition13:00
Waffl3xI know that13:00
Waffl3xI dont understand whats happening13:00
Waffl3xI click change and do what exactly?13:01
Waffl3xits not letting me change the "new partition size"13:01
ap0cdid you set up your partitions?13:01
Waffl3xno13:01
Waffl3xIm trying to do that13:01
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Waffl3xthanks for the help and all13:04
Waffl3xbut I have to go to school13:04
Waffl3xcan we finish this later?13:04
ap0cyea ^ just keep experimenting13:04
ap0cgoogle is your friend13:04
Waffl3xyep13:05
Waffl3xthanks for the help13:05
skritehey all. It used to be that i could search for a string of text in a directory by doing   grep "string" *  However, now that just returns a list of folders saying folder_name Is a directory. How do i grep now?13:45
skritechange seemed to come with 14.0413:45
rberguse grep -R, although I doubt grep has changed recently13:47
alvinYes, your example should just work as expected13:47
skriteok13:48
rbergor did somehow your files become directories?13:48
Wil27hello I help with kubuntu, sorry I don't speak english my problem is than I was used ubuntu for three years now format my computer and install kubuntu13:49
Wil27but no work compiz13:49
Wil27and my monitor this blocked13:49
skriterberg: no, directories have not changed, really. Just a folder full of python files with a couple of directories in there.13:49
rbergsounds like grep is not finding any matches and also warning that its hitting directories and not recursing.13:50
hateballWil27: What is your native language? There might be a channel for it if that is easier for you13:51
Wil27I speak spanish13:51
hateball!es | Wil2713:51
ubottuWil27: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:51
Wil27ok gracias13:52
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BluesKaj_Hey folks15:55
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NexiaHi, my VPN won't just connect under Kubuntu after working fine for the first 1-2 days after I installed Kubuntu recently. I faced this issue before when I had ubuntu+ KDE, and I remember it working out of no where when I booted back into Kubuntu some *days* later.16:44
NexiaI've tried playing around with the connection's settings to no avail.16:44
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BluesKajNexia, openvpn?17:04
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apb1963I want to be able to right click on a file - in the terminal - and have the appropriate application execute it.. so if I right click on a sound file it should play, w/out first having to open the file manager and then selecting it....17:40
apb1963Is there a way to accomplish this goal in kubuntu 14.04 ?17:41
lordievaderapb1963: By typing on the keyboard that can be accomplished...17:45
apb1963lordievader: typing, is not right-clicking.17:47
lordievaderIt's a terminal... what do you expect...17:48
apb1963I already explained what I expect.17:48
geniiapb1963: The short answer to your question is "no".17:53
apb1963Well, that's interesting because I can already right-click and get a menu, so that part is obviously done.  I know that the system is able to handle file associations, so that part is done too.... so I'm finding it hard to believe that there's no way to add some kind of launcher to the right click menu.17:56
lordievaderapb1963: How are you going to distinguish text from other text?17:56
apb1963huh?17:56
lordievaderTerminal is text...17:57
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apb1963Yes?17:57
lordievaderapb1963: So how are you going to distinguish text from text?17:58
apb1963The same way it's done everywhere else?  By parsing it.17:58
lordievaderAnd then search the entire file system to see if it is a file?17:58
lordievaderSo in short, not going to happen.17:59
apb1963Hunh?  No idea what yo're talking about.  What's to search?  It IS a file.17:59
apb1963When I right click on a file it offers me a variety of choices, including to launch a file manager.  So, add one more choice "open file", with associated application.18:00
apb1963Based on extension... such as .txt .wav, etc.18:00
apb1963Or "Open with..."18:01
rbergdang I remember playing with a new-ish terminal emulator that could do that but I cant remember its name18:02
lordievaderapb1963: Could you show a screenshot of that?18:02
apb1963Just right click18:03
apb1963Ah, perhaps we have a miscommunication... I'm in Konsole18:04
lordievaderapb1963: I did, I don't see it.18:04
apb1963in Konsole?18:04
lordievaderapb1963: Jup.18:05
apb1963Hmm.... works for me18:05
lordievaderapb1963: That's why I'd like to see a screenshot.18:05
apb1963In that I get a menu18:05
apb1963Oddly, I can't take screenshots when that menu is active.  Screenshots work otherwise... just not when the right-click menu is active18:05
lordievaderSure I get a menu, but that menu has nothing to do with any of the files from the output of, say, ls. Just with the pwd.18:06
rbergIt was Terminology the enlightenment terminal emulator that could open files with a click18:06
rbergbut I found it too buggy to use all the time and E in kde ick..18:07
lordievaderFancy though.18:07
lordievaderBut I like the fact that in a terminal one doesn't need the mouse :)18:08
apb1963I'm not saying it does have anything to do with the files... that's essentially the feature I'm looking for.18:08
rbergyeah I meant it opens them with the appropriate program..18:09
apb1963i'm not sure what the big deal is...  you were concerned about searching and distinguishing "text from other text"...  You take the text and you compare it to the files in $CWD...  or if it has a path, you use that path...  simple.  Why the fuss?18:14
apb1963I'm not sure even that is needed... The application itself would probably figure that out.  You just need to pass it an argument... if it's not a file, the app doesn't open it.18:15
apb1963Ends in .txt?  Open a text editor.  Ends in .flubber?  Open a flubber app. that reads flubber files and pass it the argument.18:16
apb1963(I don't know if there's such a thing as flubber.)18:16
lordievaderBecause that is what it is. How do you know that the output of the last command, or a previous command for that matter, is a file listing.18:19
lordievaderHow do you know it is of the current cwd?18:20
rbergI guess if you want to select text and open it you could script something with xclipboard and xdg-open18:20
apb1963As I said, if it has a path, you pass the path.  if I type "vi asdfljadsfj" it will try to open that file.  Can't open it?  That's vi's problem to deal with.  Same for VLC, etc.  You simply associate the extension with an application and call the app and pass it the argument.  It's no different than in the GUI.18:22
lordievaderJust that Konsole has no idea, it just passes commands to bash or whatever shell you use.18:23
apb1963Konsole is a type of GUI itself.18:23
apb1963and that's all it should need to do.18:23
apb1963Except that instead of bash, it differentiates based on file extension.18:24
lordievaderI'll just back down, this ain't going anywhere.18:24
apb1963you're saying Konsole has a one track algorhthm... and ok, maybe it needs to be enhanced to handle what I'm asking for.  So OK, that's what's missing to get the job done.18:26
rbergso playing aroung a bit I got this, select a file on konsole then run 'xdg-open $(xsel)' and it opens the file with its associated program.. not how to run that automatically18:27
rberg/not/now/18:27
apb1963Maybe a widget... dunno18:30
apb1963well, I have to go... thanks for the thoughts :)  Let me know if anyone figures it out .  Thanks!18:30
rbergI would make a hotkey18:31
rbergfor that command18:31
rbergI set ctrl-atl-o to be that command and it totally works18:33
TBotNikAll, Have aptitude problem, part of a thread at: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?66222-Networking/page3! Could really use help on this.  Would like to finally recover this laptop and be using it today!18:53
cornfeedhobodoes anyone know where i might find where xorg settings are being saved? there doesnt seem to be a /etc/X11/xorg.conf that i am used to.....19:10
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genii!xorgconf | cornfeedhobo19:11
ubottucornfeedhobo: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. See `man xorg.conf` for file structure and syntax. | Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf | ATI proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd | Nvidia proprietary driver specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia19:11
cornfeedhobothx19:13
geniicornfeedhobo: If you make one it still get used. But if you do a dist-upgrade it gets moved to a file like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.MMDDYYYY19:14
genii( and then you have to cp it back to xorg.conf again )19:14
cornfeedhoboyeah, i am just trying to see how kubuntu handles palm detection on trackpads, i dont see where that is being set.19:15
cornfeedhoboso, not looking to create the xorg as much as learn from what is being set. looking in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ now19:16
geniicornfeedhobo: Here it is in system Settings... Hardware...Input Devices.... Touchpad ( bottom left)  ... 4th folder over called Sensitivity19:17
TBotNikRepeating: All, Have aptitude problem, part of a thread at: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?66222-Networking/page3! Could really use help on this.  Would like to finally recover this laptop and be using it today!19:18
cornfeedhobogenii: indeed, but, even after setting it, there doesnt seem to be a change19:19
TBotNikall: Does anyone know where a copy of the liveDVD with "REPAIR" options exists for download and run/install?  Default liveDVD does not have this option and has crashed my laptop, killing aptitude so always getting "packages held" error, but no packages are held!19:21
cornfeedhobogenii: got it sorted now. thanks again for the help :)19:21
geniicornfeedhobo: Does the result of: xinput       list a touchpad?19:21
cornfeedhoboyea19:21
geniicornfeedhobo: Ah, good to hear.19:22
cornfeedhobogenii: i didnt want to burden anyone too much. i am using the kubuntu to compare another distro a friend is running.19:22
geniiTBotNik: I read the entire thread there and your system has so many different issues wrong with it that frankly it's not worth trying to sort it out by IRC support.19:23
TBotNikgenii: Well the install of 14.04 should have cleared all issues, but instead left aptitude somehow corrupted and all this on a brand new 1.5TB drive, so really needing some assist to get me over the hump here.  This laptop has been working on 12.04 since it's release and only went down when "disk full" errors knocked it out.  That's why it got the 1.5TB HD.  Was upgrade from 320GB HD!19:27
TBotNikgenii: Is there a way to use dpkg to re-install aptitude live online?19:31
geniiTBotNik: I would recommend instead to switch to using apt-get instead of using synaptic. Also when you do a do-release-upgrade to remove all PPAs, do a ppa-purge and revert the system to stock repositories. Additionally not to use Webmin since it was discontinued from Debian and Ubuntu because it screws systems up. Also waiting for network to come up is normal if /etc/network/interfaces has entries like:  iface eth0 inet dhcp     in there and19:48
geniimanaged=true in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf19:48
geniiThere are so many layered issues with your system that it is like trying to unwrap an onion.19:49
TBotNikgenii: I only used synaptic to see what packages are "HELD", which none are.  I totally run "apt-get" out of scripts, since I have over 5,000 apps to load above the "core".  Purging repositories would be nice, but then would have to add lines back in for the other frameworks and apps that I have to load.  I load Dropbox and Webmin as the last 2 items, because like you said they can mess things up sometimes, but have to have WebMin, due to support19:54
TBotNikrequirements contractually bound by customers to support.19:54
TBotNikgenii: Last time I checked, since I deleted Network Manager completely, there were no "managed" statements anywhere in the /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file, since that file should not exist anywhere on my system, being Network Manager free.19:55
geniiTBotNik: As for your Centrino issue, firmware is here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=iwlwifi-1000-ucode-128.50.3.1.tgz    just needs to be untarred to /lib/firmware.20:00
TBotNikgenii: No the iwlwifi driver for ucode6, the required driver does not exist in that file.  That file does not in any way, shape or sort support the Centrino N100 chipset and I'm not going into that one again cause lying gets me totally upset and so will not revisit that total BS about having a fix for that issue.  It has never never never never never never been fixed!20:05
geniiTBotNik: Later this week when I have time, I will reply in detail on the forum page.20:06
TBotNikK, if an explaination is needed then it is not fixed, must run straight "out-of-the-box"!20:07
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ap0cWaffl3x: You're still here?  Or did you just leave the client running22:31

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