[01:09] <chrisdep> hi
[01:09] <chrisdep> ubuntu touch on my phone has a problem installing the updates
[01:09] <chrisdep> all packages show 'installing' and the progress bar never updates
[01:09] <chrisdep> i don't know how to debug this
[01:09] <chrisdep> it started happening a few weeks ago
[01:10] <chrisdep> the number of packages requiring update has slowly grown bigger
[01:10] <chrisdep> now there are 13 packages which appear in the list but they never install
[01:12] <chrisdep> is there a recommended place where related errors or logs may be found?
[03:04] <liuxg> is there anyway to restart a scope? My current department url depends on the settings. Once I change the settings, my scope exits. is there any way to resolve this?
[06:49] <seb128> dpm, hey
[06:49] <dpm> morning seb128
[06:49] <seb128> dpm, how are you?
[06:49] <dpm> seb128, still waking up, but good, and you? :)
[06:49] <seb128> same ;-)
[06:49] <seb128> dpm, did anyone debug the indicator-location translation issue?
[06:50] <seb128> dpm, sorry for not picking that up and helping yesterday, I was busy with other things
[06:50] <seb128> dpm, I just had a look and know what is wrong
[06:51] <dpm> seb128, not that I know of, no, I wasn't sure where to start, after checking that the translations were shipped and present in the .mo files. No worries, I wasn't expecting you to pick it up!
[06:51] <seb128> dpm, the issue is the trust-store update that adds i18n
[06:51] <dpm> aha
[06:51] <seb128> it changes the domain of the client using the lib
[06:51] <seb128> tvoss, ^ is that a known issue?
[06:51] <seb128> dpm, I confirmed by downgrading trust-store and indeed the indicator is properly translated
[06:52] <Mirv> Saviq: "oh, that field"
[07:15] <dpm> seb128, tvoss, bug 1380916
[07:16] <tvoss> seb128, not known, yet
[07:17] <seb128> tvoss, hey, ok
[07:18] <tvoss> seb128, dpm let me make sure that the text domain is only adjusted if the respective functions are called.
[07:19] <seb128> tvoss, thanks
[07:23] <dpm> thanks tvoss
[07:24] <tvoss> dpm, seb128 is that bug critical?
[07:27] <tvoss> dpm, seb128 https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/trust-store/only-adjust-text-domain-if-i18n-is-actually-called/+merge/238240
[07:27] <seb128> tvoss, it's making indicator-location untranslated, which I think it's a blocker for shipping a device in non english countries
[07:27] <dpm> tvoss, what seb128 said
[07:30] <seb128> tvoss, I don't know that codebase, but even if the client asks for i18n you shouldn't end up changing its domain?
[07:31] <seb128> or you need to restore it once done
[07:31] <tvoss> seb128, sure, that is what the fix is about
[07:31] <tvoss> seb128, @not changing the domain.
[07:33] <seb128> tvoss, ok, good, I was unsure from the description if it would still do it in some cases, but I don't know how that library is used
[07:52] <dpm> hi MacSlow, do you know from which package the battery and volume OSD notifications come from? They appear untranslated both on the phone and the desktop
[07:53] <MacSlow> dpm, lp:unity-settings-daemon iirc
[07:54] <MacSlow> dpm, although the volume-related sync. notifications on the phone are (will be) triggered by indicator-sound... and that's currently in the middle of being changed.
[07:56] <seb128> dpm, MacSlow: unity-settings-daemon is desktop only, no chance that's on the phone, rather indicators for the phone
[07:57] <dpm> ok, will file against indicator-power and indicator-sound, then
[07:58] <MacSlow> dpm, btw... on the phone there's only one potential user of sync. notifications... indicator-sound for volume-notifications
[07:59] <MacSlow> dpm, I'm surprised that the current strings for regular (desktop) sync. notification are untranslated all of a sudden.
[07:59] <seb128> dpm, what string did you get on the phone, for the battery, which is not translated?
[08:01] <dpm> MacSlow, I'm not sure it's all of a sudden, I only happened to notice it on utopic: on the desktop, I got a critical battery OSD notification in English. And for volumen, there is no actual string shown, however, when the volume is at 0 and you click on the volume indicator to increase it, it will show "Volume" in English. On the phone, the critical battery notification appeared in English to me
[08:01] <dpm> seb128, ^
[08:02] <seb128> dpm, it looks like the phone notifications were added in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-power/trunk.14.10/revision/260
[08:02] <seb128> dpm, those are under _()
[08:02] <seb128> not sure that's the string you saw though
[08:02] <MacSlow> dpm, ah... regarding the volume-notification it could be that you have not pull all available updates...
[08:02] <seb128> my phone is 50% charged, no sure how to test that
[08:02] <MacSlow> dpm, there was a "hiccup" with indicator-sound recently, which got reverted so that might have been what you saw
[08:03] <MacSlow> dpm, on the desktop volume notifications should not display any strings at all!
[08:07] <dpm> MacSlow, just captured this right now: http://i.imgur.com/q52jgkc.png with indicator-sound 12.10.2+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1
[08:09] <MacSlow> dpm, yeah... that's still the same bug it seems... did you pull all updates yet?
[08:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Ada Lovelace Day! :-D
[08:10] <justCarakas> :D
[08:11] <dpm> seb128, I think those look like the strings that appeared on my phone. However, they don't seem to appear in the template: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/+source/indicator-power/+pots/indicator-power/ca/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=battery
[08:12] <seb128> dpm, ok, I see the issue
[08:12] <dpm> MacSlow, thanks upgrading from 12.10.2+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1 to 12.10.2+14.10.20141010-0ubuntu1 now,
[08:12] <seb128> dpm, src/notifier.c is not listed in POTFILES.in
[08:13] <mardy> marcustomlinson: to request an update the the documentation website: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website/+filebug
[08:14] <marcustomlinson> mardy: ok thanks
[08:25] <dpm> seb128, argh, well spotted
[08:27] <seb128> dpm, do you want to do a mp/manually update the template on launchpad for this one? or should I?
[08:32] <dpm> seb128, it'd be great to do the manual update while the MP doesn't land. Do you want to update the template and I do the MP? Or the other way round?
[08:33] <seb128> dpm, I start the mp
[08:33] <seb128> started even
[08:33] <seb128> so please let that to me
[08:33] <dpm> ok, cool, let me update the template, then
[08:33] <seb128> thanks
[08:37] <mahmoh> ogra_: hi, could you pls point me to an ubuntu-touch porting link if you have it handy?  how are you btw?
[08:49] <popey> mahmoh: its in the /topic
[08:51] <ogra_> tbr, HAPPY BÖÖÖRSDÄI !!!
[08:52] <ogra_> hey mahmoh ... yeah, what popey said ... note that it is horridly outdated though
[08:53] <mahmoh> popey: ogra_: I missed that, thank you for pointing that out, I'll start there and ping as I have questions, thx!
[08:54] <ricmm> ogra_: hey
[08:54] <ricmm> ogra_: help me test 17 some?
[08:54] <popey> mahmoh: would be awesome forsomeone to review that doc and suggest improvements ☻
[08:54] <ricmm> I'm finally happy with it
[08:54] <mahmoh> popey: how should I propose suggestions?
[08:55] <popey> mahmoh: whatever you think is best. editing the wiki page directly is fine.
[08:55] <mahmoh> popey: great, I'll d that and ping you when I do for review
[08:56] <popey> mahmoh: great! thanks. if it's easier to build your own local notes and share them to completely replace the page thats fine too
[08:56] <popey> its horribly outdated
[08:57] <mahmoh> ok, sounds liek anything is better that nothing, will do
[08:57] <popey> exactly!
[08:57] <popey> ☻
[09:01] <dpm> seb128, seems like the indicator-power template cannot be updated with intltool?
[09:01] <dpm> $ intltool-update --pot
[09:01] <dpm> Unsuccessful open on filename containing newline at /usr/bin/intltool-update line 1149.
[09:02] <dpm> oh, it's cmake
[09:02] <seb128> dpm, why not?
[09:02] <dpm> seb128, ah, I just noticed. It actually creates the template, despite of the error
[09:02] <seb128> dpm, right
[09:03] <seb128> dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/indicator-power/update-translations-list/+merge/238258 btw
[09:06] <dpm> seb128, thanks. Uploaded template: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/+source/indicator-power/+imports and https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/indicator-power/+imports
[09:08] <seb128> dpm, thanks!
[09:08] <seb128> dpm, one day the phone is going to be fully translated, one day ;-)
[09:09]  * dpm looks forward to that bright, shiny day
[09:09] <seb128> :-)
[09:50] <tbr> ogra_: danque
[09:50] <ogra_> :)
[09:50] <tbr> ogra_: do I get a birthday present in the form of victors attention?
[09:50] <ogra_> haha, ask tvoss
[09:50]  * tbr is currently at ELCE and there are also some interested companies
[09:51] <tbr> the last job I scored by an interview on my birth day, so I'm hoping for the best today.
[09:51]  * Stskeepz wishes the best for tbr
[09:51] <tbr> and I'm wearing an @IoToilets t-shirt, great talking point/opener
[09:51] <ogra_> haha
[09:51] <tbr> tnx Stskeepz
[09:52]  * tbr gently stabs tvoss as advised by ogra_ 
[09:52] <tvoss> tbr, see pm :)
[09:52] <tvoss> tbr, and happy birthday obviously
[09:52] <tbr> tnx
[10:03] <mardy> marcustomlinson: where can I see the OA C++ APIs for scopes?
[10:04] <marcustomlinson> mardy: lp:unity-scopes-api
[10:04] <marcustomlinson> mardy: a class called OnlineAccountClient
[10:04] <marcustomlinson> mardy: (I know, very similar to OnlineAccountsClient) :P
[10:04] <marcustomlinson> mardy: but for 1 account :)
[10:04] <marcustomlinson> (type)
[10:05] <marcustomlinson> mardy: well actually, each instantiation of that class monitors any activity with accounts matching the service name, type and provider provided on construction
[10:06] <marcustomlinson> mardy: the class docs should explain everything pretty well
[10:06] <marcustomlinson> mardy: The only thing I'd really like to change about the class is to remove main_loop_select from the constructor, and manage an internal main loop always
[10:07] <marcustomlinson> mardy: so basically, the default now is CreateInternalMainLoop, but I would like to remove the option entirely
[11:11] <mardy> marcustomlinson: why can there be more than one ServiceStatus per object? If the service name is specified in the constructor, I would expect to find only one ServiceStatus
[11:12] <marcustomlinson> mardy: 2 Google accounts, each with a service named YouTube
[11:12] <mardy> marcustomlinson: ah, of course
[11:16] <mardy> marcustomlinson: I would like to have two classes: one which is a model of account services (with filters), and then one class for an account-service
[11:17] <mardy> marcustomlinson: similar to how http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.AccountServiceModel/ works (and AccountService)
[11:17] <mardy> marcustomlinson: but I'm not familiar with how models are represneted in C++
[11:19] <marcustomlinson> mardy: Are you actually writing this now?
[11:19] <marcustomlinson> mardy: can it wait for Washington
[11:20] <mardy> marcustomlinson: yes it can, and should wait, I want to go though all the API with you
[11:20] <mardy> marcustomlinson: I was just getting familiar with it
[11:20] <marcustomlinson> mardy: yeah we should
[11:20] <mardy> marcustomlinson: and have a preliminary understanding, so we can go through the details later
[11:21] <marcustomlinson> mardy: sure
[11:22] <mardy> marcustomlinson: also, your API is very convenient for OAuth, but we should support other authentication mechanisms, such as just username + password (I think this is especially important for smaller sites)
[11:23] <marcustomlinson> mardy: yeah, that is a concern.
[11:24] <marcustomlinson> mardy: in that case a scope is just interested in the "enabled" attribute
[11:24] <marcustomlinson> mardy: the "authorized" bool is true only for oauth
[11:24] <marcustomlinson> mardy: so yeah, needs work
[12:33] <Linnak> Hi Everybody, I saw a video, in which the person docked his phone wired with a display and keyboard and mouse and he used his phone as an Ubuntu desktop. I had several questions about that
[12:34] <Linnak> First. Do I have to install Ubuntu touch to have the ubuntu desktop function or can I use andriod and ubuntu desktop?
[12:35] <Linnak> Second. As a desktop which Ubuntu based os can I use. Just with Unity or?
[12:36] <ogra_> the converged function of ubuntu-touch is planned for 16.04 (with luck it will bee there earlier) ...
[12:36] <ogra_> there is no official desktop mode for android
[12:37] <ogra_> (you might find some hacked up variants that use a local VNC connection in an ubuntu chroot or some such)
[12:39] <Linnak> I'm talking about these:
[12:39] <Linnak> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6eEDZva1W8
[12:39] <Linnak> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
[12:39] <Linnak> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWiUvOkK1HM
[12:39] <ogra_> ubuntu for android is suspended ...
[12:40] <ogra_> that only works if a manufacturer actually implements the needed changes in the binary drivers for android
[12:40] <ogra_> unless you see some company like samsung announce it, it wont happen
[12:40] <Linnak> What if I install Ubuntu touch on my phone?
[12:41] <ogra_> then you have an ubuntu phone OS ... (if you have one of the supported devices, else you need to port it first)
[12:42] <Linnak> Yeah clear. If I have Ubuntu touch on the right hardware I have to ude Unity as a desktop or I can choose something else?
[12:42] <ogra_> desktop ?
[12:43] <Linnak> When I dock It on the video it's not a touch surface but a unity one
[12:43] <ogra_> again, that feature does not exist
[12:43] <Linnak> Just on those three video??
[12:43] <ogra_> in the form of ubuntu for android it is suspended until a verndor implements it ...
[12:44] <ogra_> in the form of the current ubuntu phone OS it is non existing
[12:44] <Linnak> All right. What a pity
[12:44] <ogra_> it will happen ... just a matter of time
[12:44] <Linnak> One year???
[12:44] <ogra_> yeah, perhaps
[12:45] <ogra_> for now everyone is focused on getting a proper phone only OS done
[12:45] <Linnak> By that time the cpu of the phone will be much stronger. so it can be good as well
[12:45] <ogra_> you need a proper base (and devices being sold with it preinstalled, which will come before end of the year) before you can add features
[12:46] <ogra_> currently all developers work towards the preinstalled phones
[12:46] <Linnak> It's like windows. you need to write the drivers for all the manufacturer's hardware
[12:47] <Linnak> A big work
[12:47] <ogra_> well, there we are lucky and can use the android drivers ... but it is a completely new OS ... from scratch ... designed to become a desktop as well at some point in the future
[12:50] <Linnak> As I see the OS is ready. Many people installed on their phone. But not working on all phone. So and correct me if i'm wrong you need just the drivers to integrate in ubuntu touch
[12:50] <ogra_> well, the OS never had an official 1.0 release yet :)
[12:50] <ogra_> (will happen within the next months ... )
[12:51] <ogra_> tthe images you can install are all not finished yet ... they are developer previews, so people can use the SDK to write apps and so on
[12:55] <Linnak> I see. Thanks
[13:21] <Chipaca> the control panel freezes if you leave it "running" overnight
[13:21] <Chipaca> system settings, i mean
[13:24] <ogra_> Chipaca, i think popey had such a bug in the past
[13:25] <popey> correct
[13:25] <popey> been happening for months
[13:28] <popey> Chipaca: probably bug 1337200
[13:29] <Chipaca> popey: ah, i'll take a look at cpu load next time
[13:29] <Chipaca> popey: thanks
[13:32] <popey> np
[13:33] <mardy> mpt: hi! Can I ask you some more (quick!) info about bug 1380683? I guess that IRC is faster...
[13:33] <mpt> sure
[13:34] <mardy> mpt: this: "dpkg -L signon-plugin-oauth2"
[13:34] <mpt> mardy, while SSHed or not?
[13:34] <mardy> mpt: yep (or even from the terminal app)
[13:35] <mardy> mpt: does it print a list of files, or does it spit some error?
[13:37] <mpt> mardy, it prints a list of files
[13:39] <mardy> mpt: good, then the nice thing would be to enable logging in /etc/signond.conf, do you know how to use vi?
[13:39] <mpt> mardy, I know “:wq”, but I don’t know anything else
[13:40] <mpt> mardy, but nano is installed on the phone :-)
[13:40] <mardy> mpt: ah, I didn't know; then "sudo nano /etc/signond.conf"
[13:40] <mpt> mardy, uncomment “;LoggingLevel=2”?
[13:41] <mardy> mpt: exactly
[13:41] <mardy> mpt: then if you could try the account creation once more, you'll find the logs in the syslog
[13:41] <mpt> [ Error writing /etc/signond.conf: Read-only file system ]
[13:43] <mpt> mardy, so “adb shell touch /userdata/.writable_image && adb reboot”?
[13:45] <mardy> mpt: oh right
[13:46] <mardy> mpt: or "phablet-config writable-image"
[13:47] <mpt> That is simpler :-)
[13:49] <mpt> Ha!
[13:49] <mpt> mardy, I regret to inform you that it is a heisenbug
[13:50] <mpt> mardy, after making the image writable, I tested the bug again and it still happened. Then I turned on the logging, and tried it again, and now it doesn’t happen
[13:50] <mpt> The Facebook and Twitter apps both show the auth pages
[13:50] <mardy> mpt: could it be that something is wrong with the filesystem? The error message from the first logs seems to claim that the signon-plugin-oauth2 plugin is not installed
[13:50] <mardy> mpt: while it obviously is installed
[13:51] <mpt> Oh, that’s weird
[13:52] <rickspencer3> hey all, I'm getting two different stories about these bugs:
[13:52] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1378048
[13:52] <rickspencer3>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-mediascanner/+bug/1361232
[13:52] <rickspencer3> tvoss, where do the fixes for these bugs need to happen? popey ?
[13:52] <mpt> mardy, okay, it failed once then worked once then failed twice.
[13:52] <mpt> So I should have logs now
[13:52] <popey> well, specifically I was only talking about 1378048 initially.
[13:53] <mpt> mardy, where is “the syslog”?
[13:53] <rickspencer3> popey, ok
[13:53] <mardy> mpt: /var/log/syslog
[13:53] <popey> the content in the indicator comes from media-hub.
[13:54] <popey> rickspencer3: AIUI jhodapp is working on this? - jhodapp got an eta on playlist support?
[13:55] <jhodapp> popey, not working on it atm
[13:55] <jhodapp> popey, and that's not the same as playlist support...it's just finishing the mpris interface
[13:56] <ahayzen> jhodapp, for the music-app to work we would need background playlists support though right?
[13:56] <rickspencer3> jhodapp, so you are saying the music app needs to finish the mpris interface?
[13:57] <mpt> mardy, success! https://launchpadlibrarian.net/187312826/1380683-syslog
[13:57] <jhodapp> ahayzen, correct
[13:57] <jhodapp> ahayzen, for when the music-app isn't in the foreground
[13:58] <jhodapp> rickspencer3, no, it's all media-hub
[13:59] <seb128> jhodapp, do you know if it was discussed using another interface than mpris between media-hub and the indicator?
[13:59] <jhodapp> seb128, not to my knowledge, something wrong with using MPRIS?
[14:00] <larsu> jhodapp: yes, it's bad, and even worse when there's only one media player (media-hub) exporting it
[14:00] <seb128> jhodapp, it's not really needed there and we could have something simpler/better
[14:00] <jhodapp> seb128, larsu: that's up to tvoss, he's the architect
[14:00] <seb128> tvoss, ^
[14:01] <jhodapp> seb128, I would argue to still use MPRIS though since it's a standard
[14:01] <jhodapp> and other things can automatically plug into it
[14:02] <larsu> jhodapp: mpris really wasn't made for this kind of thing
[14:02] <jhodapp> larsu, what kind of thing exactly?
[14:02] <larsu> jhodapp: having one service act as different applications
[14:03] <mpt> mardy, anything else you need?
[14:03] <larsu> we have a pretty clear picture of what an improved version of mpris will look like, but that will also not be what we would want to use in this case
[14:03] <larsu> really, if media-hub is the only thing playing stuff, we ought to skip over indicator-sound and make media-hub talk to unity directly
[14:04] <jhodapp> larsu, that's really up to tvoss, I might have an opinion on that but it's how the system was designed for now
[14:06] <seb128> jhodapp, it might be worth discussing before somebody spends more time adding mpris support to media-hub if that's not something we need
[14:06] <seb128> but yeah, let's see what tvoss says on the topic
[14:06] <jhodapp> seb128, we already have full mpris support...there's just a couple of functions not hooked up yet
[14:06] <larsu> jhodapp: why don't you state your opinion? The way it is now is a historic accident (of the "we have this now let's use it" kind)
[14:06] <mardy> mpt: no, this is excellent, thanks
[14:06] <mardy> mpt: I've never seen this happening, I need to figure out how on earth it can happen :-)
[14:06] <jhodapp> larsu, too much to do, and I've not seen any problem with the design thus far
[14:07] <mardy> mpt: is that on a Nexus 4?
[14:08] <larsu> jhodapp: in any case, I've proposed a branch that disables player controls for now, because media-hub doesn't supply them
[14:08] <jhodapp> larsu, for indicator-sound?
[14:08] <larsu> y
[14:08] <larsu> ya
[14:08] <larsu> we won't be changing the architecture now anyway
[14:09] <larsu> but let's talk about it again before we spend more time implementing the rest of mpris
[14:09] <larsu> (please)
[14:09] <jhodapp> larsu, I'd say propose a meeting, let's do a hangout
[14:09] <jhodapp> larsu, with tvoss too
[14:10] <larsu> jhodapp: will you be in dc?
[14:10] <jhodapp> larsu, yes
[14:10] <larsu> let's do it there, then?
[14:10] <jhodapp> larsu, perfect
[14:10] <larsu> great :)
[14:10] <jhodapp> larsu, put something on our calendars though
[14:13] <seb128> is indicator-datetime supposed to pick local calendar events on the phone?
[14:14] <seb128> charles, popey, nik90: ^ (sorry, pinging people who I think might know about the topic ;-)
[14:15] <nik90> seb128: I would assume so, since it was part of the designs. Why?
[14:15] <seb128> nik90, because I added an event using the calendar yesterday and set a reminder and the indicator didn't list it and I didn't get the reminder
[14:17] <popey> i just created an event in my local calendar and i see it in the indicator
[14:17] <seb128> k, I just tried
[14:18] <seb128> in fact there is a tz offset
[14:18] <nik90> seb128: there was a bug where i-dt used to confused calendar events with clock alarms. So that required some changes in i-dt, ubuntu-sdk and some fixes in qtorganizer5-eds. I am not sure how much of that is done.
[14:18] <seb128> I created one for 8pm and it's show at 6pm in the indicator
[14:18] <popey> oh dear.
[14:18] <nik90> but I know that the tz offset issue is fixed by the sdk and eds and is in a silo atm
[14:18] <seb128> the one I added yesterday was 1.5 hours later
[14:18] <popey> yes, mine shows wrong time too
[14:18] <seb128> so I guess the -2 made it a past event and not being listed
[14:18] <seb128> charles, ^ known?
[14:19] <nik90> seb128, popey: silo 13 ubuntu-rtm fixes the tz issue
[14:19] <seb128> oh, nice
[14:19] <seb128> when does that land? ;-)
[14:19] <popey> QA is -> that way.
[14:19] <nik90> seb128: looks like only qa needs to approve.
[14:19] <seb128> great
[14:21] <seb128> nik90, popey: thanks
[14:21] <nik90> yw
[14:21] <popey> yw
[14:21] <jgdx> hey seb128
[14:22] <seb128> jgdx, hey
[14:22] <larsu> rickspencer3: for bug #1381069, do you mean to only hide the controls or the full player?
[14:22] <davmor2> popey: I heard that
[14:22] <popey> Good.
[14:22] <jgdx> seb128, are you able to look at [1] today? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/cellular-data-not-preserved-after-fm-fixes-1376957/+merge/237586
[14:23] <tvoss> larsu, what kind of player controls did you implement?
[14:23] <seb128> jgdx, yes
[14:23] <jgdx> seb128, awesommmmme
[14:23] <seb128> ;-)
[14:23] <larsu> tvoss: I don't understand the question... rickspencer3's bug is about removing them
[14:24] <seb128> jgdx, can I reproduce the bug with 1 SIM an dhow?
[14:25] <rickspencer3> larsu, that is what I am suggesting
[14:25] <rickspencer3> set the controls to invisible until they work
[14:25] <tvoss> larsu, temporarily
[14:25] <rickspencer3> they are just a bug report magnet right now, and make the core experience seem weak
[14:25] <tvoss> larsu, you don't need to do anything, i will take care of it
[14:25] <rickspencer3> after we get what needs to be fixed, fixed, turn them back to visible
[14:25] <larsu> rickspencer3: right. tedg suggested that maybe you meant removing the whole menu item (including the currently playing song)
[14:25] <rickspencer3> tvoss, did JoeO comment on the bug, though?
[14:26] <jgdx> seb128, yes
[14:26] <mpt> mardy, yes, it’s a Nexus 4
[14:26] <larsu> rickspencer3: the branch I've attached only removes the controls
[14:26] <tvoss> rickspencer3, yup
[14:26] <tvoss> larsu, no need to do that in the indicator, I will fix that in media-hub
[14:26] <rickspencer3> larsu, I don't know specifically what is the correct thing to do, I guess having the currently playing song doesn't make much sense if there are no controls and album art
[14:26] <larsu> tvoss: already done. don't approve the branch ;)
[14:26] <rickspencer3> nic3
[14:27] <rickspencer3> thanks all
[14:27] <larsu> rickspencer3: I'm not sure either, that's why I'm asking. But if tvoss is fixing it in media-hub anyway, we won't have that problem
[14:27] <rickspencer3> :)
[14:27] <rickspencer3> thanks for hopping in though larsu
[14:27] <jgdx> seb128, but for ril_1 (lower slot) this branch does not fix the bug. That's a NM bug, which is filed.
[14:28] <seb128> jgdx, what do I need to do to test it then?
[14:28] <seb128> jgdx, just turn flight mode on and off and look at the data status?
[14:28] <jgdx> seb128, yes
[14:28] <seb128> jgdx, thanks
[14:30] <dobey> dpm: +add_translations_template("${GETTEXT_PACKAGE}" "${DESKTOP_FILE}" "Canonical Ltd." app backend)
[14:30] <dobey> dpm: what is the "app backend" part for, there?
[14:32] <dpm> dobey, they are the paths relative to the root of the tree where to look for translations. They are passed as args
[14:33] <dpm> so in this case only the apps and backend directories will be scanned
[14:33] <dobey> oh
[14:38] <dobey> dpm: but if no directory is passed, it will result in a tempalte with only the desktop.in.in.h file, no?
[14:47] <jgdx> seb128, flight mode is really slow here. Not sure if that affects the repro ability.
[14:47] <jgdx> (toggling FM is slow)
[14:50] <seb128> jgdx, I'm almost done with what I'm doing, looking at that next
[14:50] <jgdx> seb128, sure
[14:56] <dpm> dobey, hm, yes, you're right. The lack of support for checking named arguments in cmake macros makes it a bit difficult to write something reasonable :/
[15:01] <dobey> dpm: i think you could add a check for if ARGN is empty and recurse over everything if so, otherwise recurse over specific directories
[15:02] <dobey> dpm: or just get rid of the directory arguments and always recurse over everything perhaps
[15:07] <dobey> dpm: aside from that it looks ok to me. i don't know that it's the right long-term solution, but if copying this across the core apps makes things a bit easier short-term, it's fine. i think for long-term we should fix up intltool to play well with cmake
[15:09] <mpt> kemmko, hi, I’m doing the design for bug 1378883. Is there any use case for *locking* the SIM from System Settings?
[15:13] <Wellark> where do I find the SystemIdentifier of my devices that apport sets when uploading reports to errors.ubuntu.com ?
[15:13] <Wellark> cjwatson, pitti --^
[15:13] <cjwatson> Wellark: don't know about that, sorry
[15:14] <Wellark> cjwatson: np. I will do it by "grep SystemIdentifier /etc/* -R" :)
[15:15] <Wellark> ok. nothing
[15:15] <Wellark> tedg: --^ ?
[15:16] <dobey> dpm: posted a couple comments on the MP and gave it a +1
[15:16] <tedg> Wellark, It's in the whoopsie api
[15:16] <tedg> Wellark, You can get it from libwhoopsie or by hitting it on dbus
[15:17] <tedg> Wellark, If you just want to find bugs your device has uploaded I believe there's a link in system settings.
[15:18] <tedg> Wellark, System Settings → Privacy & Security → Diagnostics → Previous error reports
[15:20] <kemmko> mpt:  I'm not sure what you mean by "locking" here
[15:20] <kemmko> mpt:  you can enable/disable the SIM lock but the device needs to be rebooted to prompt the SIM unlocking screens
[15:21] <mpt> kemmko, so there’s no way to re-lock it after unlocking it, except by turning off the phone?
[15:22] <kemmko> mpt:  not that I'm aware of...
[15:22] <ev> Wellark: so no, please don't go to the filesystem for this
[15:22] <ev> that's a cache
[15:22] <mpt> kemmko, okay, no point in making it a switch then :-)
[15:22] <ev> Wellark:  gdbus call -y -d com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences -o /com/ubuntu/WhoopsiePreferences -m com.ubuntu.WhoopsiePreferences.GetIdentifier
[15:23] <vitimiti> Hi
[15:23] <kemmko> mpt switch?
[15:23] <ev> oh, I missed where Ted did a better job of explaining all this
[15:23] <ev> soz
[15:23] <kemmko> mpt:  when you activate SIM lock, you need a switch/tick
[15:24] <kemmko> mpt:  because user needs to enter SIM PIN before successful activation
[15:24] <mpt> kemmko, “Locked           [✕] ]”
[15:24] <kemmko> mpt:  this will mean that when next time you boot your device, the SIM is locked (noted in the OS) and will ask you to unlock it
[15:25] <mpt> kemmko, there’s two separate things here. (A) Whether a SIM PIN is set, and if so, (B) whether it is locked right now. I’m only talking about (B).
[15:27] <Wellark> ev: thanks!
[15:28] <kemmko> mpt: ahhhhhh
[15:28] <mpt> kemmko, if (A) a SIM PIN is set, then when you restart the phone, (B) it always returns to the locked state. I was interested to know whether there was any point in allowing (B) locking *without* restarting
[15:28] <mpt> But I guess not
[15:28] <mpt> Just unlocking
[15:28] <kemmko> mpt: again, I can not think of any usecase
[15:28] <kemmko> mpt: yes, you need to be able to unlock it however
[15:29] <mpt> Therefore, instead of being a “Locked  [✕]_]” switch, it shall be an “( Unlock… )” button.
[15:29] <kemmko> mpt: yes :)
[15:30] <kemmko> mpt: got you now
[15:30] <kemmko> :D
[15:30] <Wellark> kemmko, mpt: wait, what are we talking about here?
[15:30] <mpt> Wellark, SIM PIN
[15:30] <kemmko> Wellark: SIM PIN
[15:30] <Wellark> yes, I got that
[15:30] <kemmko> lol
[15:30] <Wellark> so that's why I got interested :)
[15:30] <kemmko> mpt: Wellark: at least we agree on the topic :D
[15:30] <mpt> Is Pimm’s a sin?
[15:31] <kemmko> mpt: what!?!
[15:31] <Wellark> mpt: why button?
[15:31] <kemmko> Wellark: a button in system setting to trigger SIM unlock screen
[15:31] <mpt> Wellark, because you only want to unlock it, not lock it
[15:32] <Wellark> ummm.. mixing terminology here..
[15:32] <Wellark> lock/unlock vs. enable/disable
[15:32] <kemmko> mpt: can't we just
[15:32] <Wellark> so which one is it now?
[15:32] <kemmko> mpt: forget it
[15:32] <kemmko> Wellark: lock/unlock
[15:33] <Wellark> ok.
[15:33] <kemmko> Wellark: enable/disable is already in system settings
[15:33] <kemmko> Wellark: but there is not way to unlock the SIM
[15:33] <kemmko> Wellark: you have to go via the indicators
[15:34] <kemmko> Wellark: or after starting up the phone
[15:34] <Wellark> kemmko: yes. so will it be under Cellular?
[15:34] <kemmko> mpt: ?
[15:34] <Wellark> there I would look for it
[15:35] <kemmko> mpt: Wellark: enable/disable is currently under Security & Privacy
[15:36] <mpt> Wellark, I think that’s because you’re a networking engineer :-)
[15:36] <Wellark> mpt: not even gonna answer that.. :P
[15:37] <Wellark> kemmko, mpt: so will the whole Security and Privace as far as SIM operations go be insensitive/disabled until the user hits the "Unlock SIM..." button?
[15:37] <mpt> yes
[15:38] <Wellark> mpt: good. you get my approval as a networking engineer then :)
[15:38] <Wellark> carry on!
[15:38] <kemmko> Wellark: how very kind of you! :P
[15:39] <dpm> awesome, thanks dobey! I agree with long-term and intltool playing better with cmake
[15:43] <mpt> “You must unlock the SIM before making calls, or using SMS or other cellular services.”
[15:44] <jgdx> ^ +1
[15:54] <fundies> 2014/10/13 13:42:28 Cannot push /root/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/ubuntu-4cecf3052ae3d517869ca2ac632e7d49dfb0ef0b56cd6167754528dffbb9f5d7.tar.xz.asc to device: free space on /cache/recovery is unknown
[15:54] <fundies> dafux its issue?
[16:13] <eagerap> has anyone experienced a "No SIM" situation? i'm on Nexus 4, wanted to hop on here and report and get ideas for fixing.
[16:15] <eagerap> i was thinking of doing a --wipe of the device, but wanted to know if i should get some logs somehow
[16:22] <seb128> jhodapp, hey, are you the media-hub maintainer? the service is eating cpu for like 10 hours on my krillin, where I've no media content and didn't use any player, not sure what info would be useful in a bug report
[16:23] <jhodapp> seb128, yeah, known bug and already filed
[16:23] <jhodapp> seb128, I'll be looking at that one soon
[16:24] <charles> seb128, that calendar-datetime bug you're describing sounds kind of like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1291225/comments/4 to me
[16:24] <charles> popey: ^
[16:25] <seb128> charles, thanks, nik90 pointed out that https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-013/+sourcepub/4467720/+listing-archive-extra should fix it
[16:26] <seb128> jhodapp, ok, do you have a bug number for the issue?
[16:27] <jhodapp> seb128, yeah one sec
[16:27] <seb128> thanks
[16:27] <Chipaca> tedg: are you around?
[16:27] <tedg> Chipaca, Yup
[16:28] <Chipaca> tedg: we're seeing gsettings (specifically, some but not all in the notifications blacklist) get reset on reboot, any idea what may be doing that and why?
[16:28] <jhodapp> seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1365562
[16:29] <seb128> jhodapp, I don't have a video on that device and I didn't try to play one that I know about, doesn't seem the same bug
[16:29] <jhodapp> seb128, ahayzen also figured this out, might be highly related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1380848
[16:29] <jhodapp> seb128, well there's not much difference for media-hub between video and audio
[16:30] <seb128> jhodapp, does ringtone count as audio?
[16:30] <jhodapp> seb128, absolutely
[16:30] <seb128> because I've no music either
[16:30] <seb128> ok
[16:30] <seb128> that I had played :p
[16:30] <tedg> Chipaca, Hmm, no. Probably better a desrt question (though seems he's not in this channel)
[16:30] <jhodapp> seb128, everything except for A/V in the browser plays through media-hub
[16:30] <Chipaca> tedg: i'll find him.
[16:31] <Chipaca> tedg: thanks :)
[16:31] <seb128> jhodapp, k, well my device is having the issue, do you need anything before I kill media-hub to get some cpu back?
[16:31] <jhodapp> seb128, nah, if you can start to notice how to reproduce that that would be a big help
[16:36] <seb128> jhodapp, yeah, I don't know, I played with the settings to try the different ringtones and pick one this morning, but just doing that again isn't enough to reproduce
[16:37] <jhodapp> seb128, yeah, just keep an eye out for steps to reproduce...thanks!
[16:37] <seb128> jhodapp, yw!
[16:52] <gcollura> is downloadmanager going to be deprecated?
[16:52] <popey> gcollura: what makes you ask that?
[16:53] <popey> dobey: ^ one for you?
[16:53] <gcollura> popey, it's still at 0.1 (in the sdk 14.10) and I've tried to use the example from the documentation without success
[16:55] <gcollura> I'm just asking information :)
[16:58] <dobey> popey: i think mandel is the best person to answer that. i don't think it's going to be deprecated though, as it's a pretty core part of the system. i've not heard anything about it being deprecated
[16:59] <popey> oh sorry, i was confused. yes, mandel ☻
[16:59] <mandel> gcollura, no, it will not, why do you mention that?
[16:59] <mandel> popey, hello ;)
[16:59] <seb128> Wellark, is indicator-network supposed to display a 3g icon when flight mode is enabled?
[16:59] <dobey> gcollura: maybe the docs on the site just aren't updated enough yet? download manager is used pretty pervasively throughout the ubuntu-touch system
[17:00] <Wellark> seb128: umm, no
[17:00] <gcollura> mandel, dobey I thought this because the download manager indicator disappeared in latest ubuntu touch images (devel-proposed). I am happy to be hear to be wrong about this
[17:00] <Wellark> seb128: should this be empty? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-rtm/pool/universe/i/indicator-network/
[17:01] <dobey> gcollura: i think transfers indicator is only shown when something is actually transferring, now
[17:01] <seb128> Wellark, guess not
[17:01] <Wellark> seb128: what does the indicator show inside it's menu?
[17:01] <dobey> gcollura: the indicator and the download-manager itself, are separate things though
[17:01] <davmor2> seb128: how long did you give it?
[17:01] <gcollura> good to know :)
[17:01] <dobey> i think that indicator is distracting and not so useful, personally
[17:01] <seb128> davmor2, dunno, 1 min?
[17:01] <davmor2> seb128: then it should just be a plane
[17:02] <seb128> oh, great, unity frozen when I try again
[17:02] <seb128> I guess I managed to segfault it by toggle airplain mode
[17:02] <Wellark> Saviq: ^
[17:02] <seb128> yeah, apport running
[17:02] <Wellark> dednick: ^
[17:02] <Wellark> could the "first part" of the toggle switch fix cause unity8 to crash?
[17:03] <Wellark> seb128: it might have crashed before and thus you saw the 3g icon
[17:04] <seb128> Wellark, no, I change the data mode and did other things in between
[17:04] <seb128> changed
[17:05] <Wellark> seb128: ok. please ping if you can repro
[17:05] <Wellark> I need a lot of additional info
[17:05] <seb128> Wellark, the icon issue or the segfault?
[17:05] <Wellark> seb128: icon issue
[17:05] <Wellark> don't care about unity8 segfaulting :P
[17:06] <Wellark> so... no ddebs for me on rtm
[17:06] <Wellark> great.
[17:07] <Wellark> juuust great.
[17:07] <seb128> Wellark, that's a binary copy from utopic
[17:08] <seb128> Wellark, debs are on http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/i/indicator-network/
[17:08] <Wellark> seb128: how could it be? they are build in separate silos
[17:08] <Wellark> different package numbers atc
[17:08] <seb128> Wellark, no they are not different numbers
[17:08] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/0.5.1+14.10.20141010-0ubuntu1
[17:08] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/indicator-network/0.5.1+14.10.20141010-0ubuntu1
[17:08] <seb128> same number
[17:08] <seb128> see the rtm url
[17:08] <seb128> "
[17:08] <seb128> Uploaded to:
[17:08] <seb128>     Utopic "
[17:09] <Wellark> umm.. what's the point of having an rtm landing silo then?
[17:09] <Wellark> a separate one
[17:09] <seb128> read the emails from sil2100 on the phone list
[17:09] <seb128> basically they avoid rebuilding binaries
[17:09] <Wellark> there are so many
[17:09] <Wellark> which one you want me to start
[17:09] <seb128> but they want to confirm that the binaries work on the rtm image
[17:09] <seb128> since the environment/libs/etc diverge a bit
[17:09] <seb128> it could be screwed by a different n-m version or something
[17:09] <Wellark> well, all of the rtm silos I've been given are complete rebuilds
[17:10] <seb128> well, I don't know
[17:10] <seb128> talk to -ci-eng
[17:10] <seb128> but your rtm is ^
[17:10] <seb128> you can use it
[17:10] <Wellark> seb128: ok. thanks!
[17:10] <seb128> yw!
[17:10] <Wellark> although I already started flashing to utopic-proposed
[17:11] <Wellark> seb128: but I'm still a bit amazed if the utopic-proposed ddebs work on the rtm images
[17:11] <Wellark> will check with ci-eng
[17:11] <seb128> Wellark, I bet you it works
[17:11] <seb128> Wellark, btw the icon issue is easy to reproduce
[17:11] <seb128> go to settings -> phone
[17:11] <seb128> change the data mode
[17:11] <seb128> and enable flight mode directly after than
[17:11] <seb128> that
[17:11] <seb128> before the change is active
[17:12] <seb128> it turns to flight mode
[17:12] <Wellark> seb128: "change the data mode" ?
[17:12] <seb128> then the data mode comes back and the icon is displayed
[17:12] <seb128> like no data to 3g
[17:12] <Wellark> right
[17:12] <Wellark> seb128: so I should start with 3g disabled?
[17:12] <seb128> yes
[17:12] <seb128> disable data
[17:12] <seb128> then click 3g
[17:12] <seb128> then open the indicator and toggle flight mode
[17:12] <seb128> it should display the flight mode icon
[17:13] <seb128> and some seconds later the 3g icon
[17:13] <seb128> which I guess it's the async reply from the data mode change done before enabling flight mode
[17:14] <Wellark> seb128: what device?
[17:14] <Wellark> can't repro on n4
[17:14] <seb128> krillin
[17:14] <Wellark> oh
[17:14] <Wellark> seb128: you have it now
[17:14] <Wellark> ?
[17:14] <seb128> the issue?
[17:14] <Wellark> sounds like a rfkill bug
[17:14] <Wellark> seb128: yes, live. as you are seeing a flightmode icon + 3g
[17:14] <seb128> yes
[17:15] <awe_> Wellark, are you guys talking about cell settings?
[17:16] <awe_> cellular data: on/off radio pref: 2g, 2g/3g?
[17:16] <Wellark> awe_: a bit
[17:17] <Wellark> awe_: I will get back to you shortly
[17:18] <seb128> awe_, yeah, on krillin if I the data selector on "none" and pick e.g "3g" then enable flight mode, I often end up with a flight mode and then a 3g icon next to it
[17:18] <tedg> I'm getting "mako not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel devel-proposed"
[17:18] <awe_> right...so that sounds to me like the "indicator icons out-of-sync" problem
[17:18] <tedg> Is there something up there?
[17:18] <Wellark> awe_: I'm first verifying if this in fact i-network bug
[17:18] <awe_> Wellark, did the unity bug fix land?
[17:18] <Wellark> awe_: part of it
[17:18] <Wellark> kgunn: ^
[17:18] <awe_> but not all...right?
[17:18] <Wellark> kgunn: where is the rest, dude? ;)
[17:19] <awe_> so pretty sure... all along your theory was that the icons out-of-sync could be related...
[17:19] <Wellark> sure
[17:19] <awe_> but you needed the unity8 fix to land first before verifying the theory
[17:19] <Wellark> seb128: can you repro from system-settings?
[17:20] <seb128> Wellark, yes
[17:20] <awe_> seb128, I've seen the same problem and we'd been tracking this
[17:20] <seb128> Wellark, seems awe_ is on it
[17:20] <Wellark> seb128: using only the flight mode switch in system-settings
[17:20] <Wellark> no indicator involved?
[17:20] <seb128> no need for me to duplicate work
[17:20] <Wellark> seb128: it's my indicator
[17:20] <seb128> right
[17:20] <Wellark> and it's paramount to know if you can repro from system-settings alone
[17:20] <seb128> let me try
[17:20] <Wellark> as if you can
[17:20] <awe_> Wellark, seb128, I'll try again, but as I've pointed out in the past, this used to be pretty easy to reproduce
[17:21] <seb128> it is easy
[17:21] <Wellark> then it's _not_ the toggle switch bug
[17:21] <seb128> Wellark, yeah, can be reproduce using settings only
[17:21] <Wellark> seb128: so, before proceeding, please reboot if at all possible
[17:21] <Wellark> ok..
[17:21] <Wellark> seb128: my krillin is almost done flashing
[17:21] <awe_> then we should file a new critical bug, if there isn't one already
[17:21] <Wellark> I will try to repro
[17:22] <seb128> thanks
[17:22] <Wellark> awe_: it's just an icon
[17:22] <Wellark> High
[17:22] <seb128> it's a confusing icon
[17:22] <seb128> but yeah, high is probably right
[17:22] <Wellark> I will see if I can repro
[17:22] <seb128> it's just giving you a "why do I have that data icon displayed while the device is supposed to be in flight mode"
[17:22] <Wellark> what ever it is it wont land before Friday anyway
[17:22] <Wellark> seb128: yep. it's bad
[17:22] <awe_> if you get an airplane mode and a 3g at the same time, the icons aren't showing the actual state of the device
[17:22] <awe_> that seems pretty bad to me
[17:23] <Wellark> but I have the Criticals reserved for "omg, you killed my kitten"
[17:23] <awe_> I would also call bugs that misrepresent the state of the radios to the user as just as bad...
[17:24] <awe_> but that's my opinion
[17:26] <Wellark> awe_: look, it might be multiple things. before I can repro and get the full dbus dumps who knows if ofono is missing a signal
[17:27] <Wellark> seb128: are you using sim1 or sim2 ?
[17:27] <awe_> Wellark, in the past, I've verified that the system is always transitioning into FM
[17:27] <seb128> Wellark, only sim1
[17:27] <awe_> you need to check list-modems | grep Online
[17:27] <Wellark> awe_: so there is an automated test case that tests that all the signals fly properly even if ofono is in the middle of activating a internet context?
[17:27] <awe_> and then run urfkill's enumerate script to check the 'soft' state of each killswitch
[17:28] <awe_> and finally, the output of flight-mode with no args
[17:28] <awe_> which will query urfkill's flight-mode state
[17:28] <Wellark> I'm talking about signals here
[17:28] <Wellark> seb128: is sim2 installed?
[17:28] <awe_> then run 'monitor-ofono' and 'monitor-urfkill'
[17:29] <awe_> or use dbus snooping
[17:29] <Wellark> awe_: yes. I know.
[17:29] <awe_> Wellark, there are not automated test cases for urfkill
[17:30] <Wellark> nor conformance tests agains ofono modem drivers
[17:30] <awe_> not sure what you mean by that
[17:30] <seb128> Wellark, no, which is why I wrote "only"
[17:30] <awe_> we've written the ofono modem drivers
[17:31] <Wellark> awe_: tests that verify that the different modem drivers respect and implement the ofono dbus api properly
[17:31] <awe_> we have unit tests to verify message building/parsing, and some other utilities
[17:31] <Wellark> which would be hard as the spec is not detailed enough
[17:31] <awe_> the modem drivers don't implement the dbus API, they influence it
[17:32] <awe_> but then again, this is all fine and dandy, but let's focus on the bug
[17:32] <awe_> seb128, Wellark, if you guys file a bug for this, please let me know.  I have some NM testing to do now, but can also try to reproduce
[17:32] <Wellark> awe_: testing now on krillin
[17:33] <Wellark> if I can repro I will file the bug
[17:33] <awe_> k
[17:33] <Wellark> seb128: btw, is your wifi connected when you do this?
[17:33] <Wellark> or should I disable wifi?
[17:34] <seb128> it's connected
[17:36] <awe_> pmcgowan, are we going to land the cell mobile data split this week, or has it been punted to OTA-1?
[17:36] <awe_> in system settings
[17:36] <awe_> jgdx, ^^
[17:38] <awe_> pmcgowan, never mind, looks like it was released
[17:38] <Wellark> seb128: what do you see inside the indicator menu?
[17:38] <pmcgowan> awe_, oh? I dont think he finished it
[17:39] <Wellark> seb128: are the modems marked as "Offline" ?
[17:39] <pmcgowan> awe_, I was going to say we could land it after tomorrow
[17:39] <awe_> I see Off, SIM1, SIM2 then 2G, 2G/3G with separate checkmarks for each
[17:40] <awe_> you mean after thu?
[17:40] <pmcgowan> awe_, the build is being made tomorrow evening for BQ
[17:40] <pmcgowan> thats the one being tested
[17:41] <awe_> k
[17:41] <pmcgowan> awe_, I dont see separate checks here
[17:41] <pmcgowan> I know jonas was finishing the tests
[17:43] <awe_> which image are you running?  I just re-flashing a few minutes ago and I see them
[17:44] <pmcgowan> awe_, from earlier today, let me look again
[17:44] <Wellark> seb128: so you say the 3G icon appears after you see the flightmode icon?
[17:44] <Wellark> as I can't repro from system-settings
[17:45] <Wellark> seb128: how much time do you take to enable flight mode once you have enabled mobile data?
[17:47] <seb128> Wellark, yes
[17:47] <seb128> not sure, 3 seconds
[17:48] <seb128> like I click the mode, open the indicator (or go back), and toggle the switch
[17:49] <Wellark> seb128: did you reboot and got the same results from the system-settings alone and not touching the indicator?
[17:50] <pmcgowan> awe_, we are talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1378812 right
[17:50] <pmcgowan> still in progress there
[17:50] <pmcgowan> but it does seem different in the image now
[17:51] <Wellark> seb128: sorry for being a PITA, but I just have to be absolutely certain.. as I can't repro
[17:51] <awe_> Wellark, I'll work on reproducing it, but that said, we've been discussing this for *weeks*
[17:51] <awe_> it was one of the two major problems we waived to allow the urfkill landing
[17:52] <awe_> note, it's hard to reproduce when NM isn't behaving
[17:52] <Wellark> awe_: seb said that he was able to repro from system-settings alone
[17:52] <Wellark> and if that is the case then this is something entirely different than the unity8 toggleswitch bug
[17:52] <awe_> ok
[17:53] <awe_> however I think I reported that it could occur using either control ( indicator or settings )
[17:53] <awe_> anyways, I'll do my best to reproduce again
[17:53] <seb128> Wellark, no, let me try to reboot
[17:55] <awe_> seb128, how many SIMs?
[18:04] <seb128> awe_, one in the first slot
[18:09] <awe_> thanks seb128
[18:10] <seb128> yw
[18:10] <seb128> awe_, can you reproduce it?
[18:10] <awe_> seb128, I have multiple times in the past, but haven't been able to do so today.  That said, I have two SIMs installed.  I will try one next to see if it makes a diff
[18:11]  * awe_ hunts for this SIM tool for the millionth time
[18:13] <Wellark> awe_: I already lost mine
[18:14] <awe_> I've lost many...
[18:14] <Wellark> awe_: where can I get a replacement?
[18:15] <Wellark> is there some standard tools?
[18:15] <awe_> at a place that sells SIMs
[18:15] <Wellark> oh, ok
[18:15] <Wellark> I'll have to check
[18:15] <awe_> any operator kiosk should have 'em too
[18:19] <awe_> Wellark, I haven't been able to reproduce yet, but am still seeing the menu toggle out-of-sync bug
[18:21] <Wellark> awe_: yep.
[18:34] <sergiusens> dobey: there seems to be trust store integration with my account for the scope; I just clean installed and always get asked to "allow" or "decline" when trying to install but nothing happens after
[18:41] <dobey> sergiusens: what image?
[18:41] <sergiusens> dobey: mako ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed 87
[18:43] <sergiusens> dobey: anywhere (log) I can look at?
[18:45] <dobey> sergiusens: what version of libunity-scopes3 do you have installed? and unity-plugin-scopes?
[18:46] <dobey> sergiusens: sounds like you have new click scope, but older versions of those packages
[18:47] <sergiusens> dobey: didn't the latest click scope land?
[18:47] <dobey> sergiusens: yes
[18:47] <sergiusens> dobey: ii  libunity-scopes3:armhf                               0.6.6+14.10.20141006-0ubuntu1               armhf        API for Unity scopes integration
[18:48] <sergiusens> dobey: ii  unity-plugin-scopes:armhf                            0.5.4+14.10.20141002.1-0ubuntu1             armhf        QML plugin for Scopes
[18:48] <dobey> yeah, those are old
[18:49] <dobey> man, having different image build #s for different devices is super confusing :-/
[18:51] <dobey> sergiusens: you're testing the scope bult in your silo, on this image, right?
[18:51] <sergiusens> dobey: yes
[18:51] <sergiusens> dobey: do I need to sync more?
[18:51] <dobey> sergiusens: the packages already landed in ubuntu-rtm archive, but they don't seem to be in the latest images built yet
[18:52] <sergiusens> dobey: ah, makes sense, I'll update
[18:52] <dobey> sergiusens: and the new unity-scopes-api and unity-scopes-shell packages are needed; so next image build should have them
[18:52] <dobey> so libunity-scopes3 and unity-plugin-scopes are the binary packages
[18:54] <sergiusens> dobey: yup; same ones I c/ped are the ones I installed; are these not sh-libbed from the package build btw?
[18:54] <sergiusens> or was there a missing version bump somewhere
[18:56] <dobey> sergiusens: the binary doesn't have explicit version deps on them.; the soname didn't change though, as the ABI didn't break
[18:57] <sergiusens> dobey: true soname didn't break; just the client trying to do something that isn't there in some form or the other
[18:58] <sergiusens> dobey: works now! thanks
[18:58] <dobey> sergiusens: we added a build-dep on the newer libunity-scopes version, but that was satisfied at build time. :)
[18:59] <dobey> sergiusens: some behavior changed in the lib and plug-in though, which makes things work like how they should
[19:02] <sergiusens> dobey: I did find a scope bug (verified on my non siloed device)
[19:02] <sergiusens> dobey: if I click install and go back real fast, then go back to the app, progress is lost
[19:02] <sergiusens> is that a known issue?
[19:06] <kgunn> Wellark: awe_ sorry was at lunch, the remainder of the fix in unity8 for out of sync indicators is here
[19:06] <kgunn> https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/lp1336715.server-value-reassert/+merge/237822
[19:06] <kgunn> still under review
[19:06] <awe_> thanks kgunn.  Is that slates for an ota update?
[19:07] <awe_> s/slates/slated/
[19:07] <dobey> sergiusens: by "go back real fast" do you mean before it switches to showing the progress bar?
[19:07] <sergiusens> dobey: yes
[19:07] <kgunn> awe_: it's a critical bug so it's asap really
[19:09] <awe_> kgunn, ok thanks
[19:10] <dobey> sergiusens: i think the app is not actually getting installed at that point. there is an issue now where it takes a second or so for things to happen, due to the online-accounts integration, and the dash isn't replacing the button. i need to check if there is a bug for that, and fix it, but it's only high i think, so i've been trying to get this other critical in the scope fixed first
[19:10] <dobey> sergiusens: what you did is basically cancel the install before it started
[19:10] <sergiusens> dobey: well it is getting dowloaded and installed from what I saw here
[19:10] <dobey> sergiusens: but the UX is a little lacking for that
[19:10] <dobey> hmm, it shouldn't be, if the progress bar never appeared in the preview
[19:10] <sergiusens> dobey: at least dbus-monitor shows download progress
[19:11] <dobey> odd
[19:11] <dobey> sergiusens: anyway, feel free to open a bug about it (with screenshots or video if possible would be best)
[19:12] <sergiusens> dobey: ack, will do
[19:33] <pdxwebdev> is there a way to make a background service display a popup window on the phone?
[19:35] <pdxwebdev> or a more elegant way to switch between applications automatically than protocol:// handlers?
[19:48] <blargh_> has anyone tried to make touch work on a dragonboard?
[20:20] <vitimiti> Hi
[21:24] <afm> anyone want to help with porting to a new android device (it's the OnePlus One 100% opensource)?  I'm an experienced linux and solaris sysadmin...  I have all source code for my phone, and all phablet source downloaded
[21:27] <derelinguo> @afm, I'm in a similar boat. Trying to port for for HTC M8, also have a DevOps background. How far have you got just following the porting guide?
[21:30] <afm> just started today during work...  VM rmped up, got all CM code specific to the phone, and the source for touch dl'd... bout it...  will be pounding away this evening... a little guidence would make things easier :)
[21:31] <afm> it run's CM stock when purchased... nothing proprietary about it...
[21:32] <afm> it's rooted, and bootloaded unlocked of course... multiboot twrp installed...
[21:32] <afm> bootloader even...
[21:33] <derelinguo> Yeh, they are nice. Did you add the CM device stuff to the phablet repo using roomservice.xml and syned as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting?
[21:37] <afm> thats next as soon as work ends
[21:41] <derelinguo> kl, I might have a quick go building for the 1+ since it's built for CM out of the box. Only thing I'm not sure of is if the build will work nicely with CM11 bits or if you need a CM10 base
[22:12] <afm> tried to apply roomservice...  http://pastebin.com/DgghEKuZ
[22:15] <daker> afm: not my field but i think it should say utopic
[22:15] <daker> not trusty
[22:17] <afm> hmm the phablet stuff was purely, phablet-dev-bootstrap $PWD
[22:18] <derelinguo> afm: here's mine so far: http://pastebin.com/cTG8jhFi I think you just need to include the revision attribute
[22:19] <afm> trying
[22:19] <derelinguo> I'm going with revision="stable/cm-11.0" btw
[22:19] <afm> just pasted my 42% mark... nice!
[22:20] <afm> er passed
[22:23] <derelinguo> Ha, take it that works then? Next quest is to make sure the device/oneplus is included in build/core/main.mk (line 557)
[22:27] <afm> sync just finished... added vendor/oneplus to the bottom of that section
[22:27] <afm> ooh... device... not vendor..
[22:27] <derelinguo> (y)
[22:28] <afm> vendor/bacon or anything?
[22:28] <afm> m
[22:28] <afm> nm
[22:31] <afm> extract files done
[22:31] <afm> minus 1....  remote object '/system/priv-app/com.qualcomm.location.apk' does not exist
[22:32] <derelinguo> Ahh yeh, I can't get that far :(
[22:32] <derelinguo> I get the error from the last post in this thread on first attempt at building: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794789&page=102
[22:33] <derelinguo> Following the solution of commenting out that include as suggested in the post ^ for now
[22:35] <afm> moving on down... audio stuff
[22:39] <derelinguo> When you get errors about dtbltoolCM, I had this for the M8 too, described at the bottom here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AndroidAOSPPorting
[22:44] <derelinguo> might be a case of adding this to the roomservice (fingers crossed) https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_qcom_common
[22:44] <afm> hmmmmm
[22:45] <afm> i'm here:  You can find your kernel config at kernel/[manufacturer]/[codename]/arch/arm/configs/ cyanogenmod_[codename]_defconfig. Please double check that it is indeed the default config file name in device/[manufacturer]/[codename]/*.mk (look for the TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG variable).
[22:45] <afm> doesn't seem to match up exactly
[22:47] <derelinguo> Ahh right, so you made the kernel changes following the readme? which file did you change?
[22:47] <derelinguo> ^ Sorry, is that just a copy and paste from the tutorial?
[22:47] <afm> root@ubuntu:~/touch/kernel/oneplus/msm8974/arch/arm/configs# ls -al | grep cyanogen
[22:47] <afm> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 97790 Oct 14 14:26 cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig
[22:48] <afm> root@ubuntu:~/touch/device/oneplus/bacon# cat mkbootimg.mk | grep TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG
[22:50] <derelinguo> cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig is the default
[22:50] <derelinguo> its under device/oneplus/bacon/BoardConfig.mk ...just to confuse you :)
[22:51] <afm> ah.. thanks!
[22:51] <derelinguo> yeh, took me ages to find that the first time round too
[22:57] <afm> so what file do the "Extra configs" get added to?
[22:58] <derelinguo> is this that error: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794789&page=102
[22:58] <afm> no error yet... haven't executed anything yet
[22:59] <afm> following the somewhat crappy guide... *sorry if anyone helped write it*
[23:00] <derelinguo> ahh right, yeh just copy n paste those lines into the end of cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig under kernel/....etc
[23:02] <derelinguo> I think the ubuntu guys admit the guide is a bit sparse. I'd like to put something concise together if I ever get to the point of a successful build
[23:04] <popey> bmatusiak: +1
[23:04] <popey> er
[23:04] <popey> derelinguo: +1 ☻
[23:04] <afm> i should be ready to build now right?
[23:05] <Wellark> mterry: could you fix the two branches? it's 2am here..
[23:06] <derelinguo> err, you wil need the qcom_common stuff in your roomservice I posted a while ago. Also remember to add it in build/core/main.mk under subdirs as device/qcom (same as for oneplus folder)
[23:07] <afm> guess i missed that... in a screen session... no scroll back...
[23:07] <derelinguo> hehe nice, one mo...
[23:08] <afm> feel free to msg me
[23:08] <derelinguo> need to add this guy to your roomservice.xml: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_qcom_common
[23:09] <derelinguo> Afraid I'm going to have to call it a night. Seem be having similar issues as my device so my keep trying with the oneplus for a while if you'll be working on it? Good luck!
[23:11] <derelinguo> FYI: If I make any sensible progress on this I'll stick it on github under cbanbury :)
[23:13] <afm> ok.. added <project name="CyanogenMod/android_device_qcom_common" path="device/qcom_common" remote="github" revision="stable/cm-11.0"/> to roomservice.xml and repo sync'd
[23:13] <afm> thanks!
[23:13] <afm> g'night
[23:14] <derelinguo> (path might need to be device/qcom <-- not sure) right will actually leave now. cya