[18:33] <nhaines> The loco-contacts ML is really rocking today.
[18:33] <pleia2> that's one word for it
[18:33] <pleia2> I'm glad the discussion is happening though
[18:33] <nhaines> Yeah.  I wish the LoCo Council seemed as glad about that.
[18:34] <nhaines> If I'm not allowed to say RTFM, no one can.  :)
[18:34] <pleia2> they've been really beat up by some of the discussions this year, so I think there's some burnout happening
[18:34] <pleia2> it's also frustrating that people read half the guidelines, see they are "invalid" and then stop reading and start ranting without noticing the "you can ask for an exception bit"
[18:34] <nhaines> That *is* really frustrating.
[18:35] <nhaines> It's why I should print out the CoC, fold it into an origami cat, and then stroke it everytime somebody goes on an ill-targeted rant.
[18:35] <pleia2> amusing that the Catalonia team was used as an example of a team that has been disenfranchised by this change, and yet they were the first to be granted an exception, months ago :)
[18:35] <pleia2> nhaines: best idea ever
[18:36] <nhaines> That sounds about par for the course.  And probably should've been the first thing mentioned in the response.
[18:36] <pleia2> I think I'll do that actually
[18:36] <nhaines> Worst comes to worst, you have an origami cat.
[18:36] <pleia2> I advocated for putting the exception rules at the top of their policy (prefering in bold, red, blinking) because I knew this would happen, but I was overruled :)
[18:37] <nhaines> Needs more marquee tag.
[18:37]  * nhaines sighs.
[18:37] <nhaines> Ahhh, 1994 HTML.  :)
[18:40] <pleia2>  I don't like that the "easy oragami cat" video is 5 minutes long
[18:40] <pleia2> 5 minutes != easy
[18:40] <nhaines> Only 78 easy steps!
[19:42] <jyo> pleia2: Forgot to event this morning. Will event and email your copypasta (Thanks!!!) before G's.
[19:42] <pleia2> jyo: thanks :)
[19:48] <jyo> rww: You still "want" to "present" on 14.10 changes, right?
[20:09] <nhaines> "changes"
[20:09] <pleia2> it will be a short presentation
[20:09] <pleia2> "who likes new kernels?" *throws popcorn*
[20:10] <rww> jyo: sure
[20:10] <rww> at least we got new desktop environments, otherwise it'd be one slide :|
[20:11] <pleia2> rww: this is very very important: To celebrate the 14.10 codename “Utopic Unicorn” and to demonstrate the easy customisability of Xubuntu, highlight colors have been turned pink for this release.
[20:11] <pleia2> ^^ Xubuntu
[20:11] <nhaines> ["Getting Better" by The Beatles plays.]  "I've got to admit it's getting better.  A little better all the time."
[20:11] <rww> oh, mate-desktop is in Trusty, so we got... Cinnamon
[20:11] <rww> oh, mate-desktop-environment is only in Utopic. i guess they moved metapackages around
[20:11] <rww> (or is that matepackages)
[20:11] <pleia2> (I honestly had nothing to do with it, my team mates on Xubuntu just love me)
[20:12] <nhaines> pleia2: I could have sworn it was you.  :)
[20:13] <pleia2> 14.10 will forvery be my release <3
[20:13] <jyo> I like new kernels. Occasionally, they have more of the things I like.
[20:13] <rww> occasionally, they cause hilarious breakage
[20:14] <rww> allegedly. people complain \o/
[20:15] <pleia2> rww: my favorite thread ever
[20:15] <nhaines> This reminds me that I need to poke Canonical and see if they intend on updating the wallpaper for utopic.
[20:15] <nhaines> Not that a SRU with a new wallpaper wouldn't be hilarious.
[20:16] <pleia2> now I can't find it, the WORKST KERNLE IN ALL OF HISTORY thread
[20:19] <jyo> Did it burn your toast and hold your family hostage?
[20:19] <nhaines> Taunted her cats.
[20:24] <OERIAS> rww, you're in the republic of california?
[20:26] <pleia2> oh, it's this one https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2014-July/006934.html
[20:26] <darthrobot> Title: [Is Linux 3.13, the worst kernel version, ever? YES! It is... So, why Trust come with it? WHY!?]
[20:26] <pleia2> my favorite is that they start off with "I don't want to be rude but"
[20:26] <pleia2> *lots of rude*
[20:38] <nhaines> It's almost as if you should test enterprise rollouts before starting hundreds of them.
[20:38] <nhaines> "I didn't test the utopic kernel at all, but here's how YOU can!"
[20:43]  * ianorlin has run utopic virtual machines from utopic although I wonder if that is feeding unicorns dogfood
[20:46] <rww> OERIAS: no, I'm in the state of california
[20:46] <OERIAS> Im in Diamond Bar
[20:52] <jyo> Yes, State of California but it's People's Republic of Berkeley.
[20:52] <OERIAS> jyo, i go to Berkeley
[23:58] <pleia2> https://twitter.com/sfgov/status/522173762356006912
[23:58] <darthrobot> Title: [City of SanFrancisco on Twitter: "#SFGiants Wine Game 3! ##OctoberTogether... http://t.co/3hu4UiK62i"]
[23:58] <pleia2> hehe, wine
[23:58] <pleia2> norcal has wine on the brain :)