[18:00] <belkinsa> #startmeeting Oct 2014 Meeting
[18:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 14 18:00:27 2014 UTC.  The chair is belkinsa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[18:00] <belkinsa> Who is here for the meeting?
[18:00] <Mikaela> o/
[18:01] <pleia2> o/
[18:01] <akk> o/
[18:01] <belkinsa> Anyone else?
[18:02] <belkinsa> Okay
[18:02] <belkinsa> Agenda is here: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/October2014/Agenda
[18:02] <belkinsa> The first topic is not on it since I forgot to add it.
[18:03] <belkinsa> #topic UOS 14.11
[18:03] <amani_glugcal> o/
[18:04] <belkinsa> The Ubuntu Online Submit is Nov 12 to 14th and I have already added our session to my list of tracks to run for the Community track.  Is it possible to plan the time for it now?
[18:05] <pleia2> in the past we've replaced our monthly meeting with an UOS event, so it we could grab Tuesday at 18:00 that would be great :)
[18:05] <pleia2> (it's the 3rd tuesday rather than 2nd, but that often happens)
[18:05] <belkinsa> You mean the 12th?  Not the 11th?
[18:06] <pleia2> no wait, it is the 2nd
[18:06] <pleia2> yeah, the 12th
[18:06] <belkinsa> The UOS is Wed to Friday because of the US holiday.
[18:06] <pleia2> hmm
[18:06] <pleia2> ah right
[18:06] <belkinsa> So, will Wed the 12 at 18 UTC work than?
[18:06] <belkinsa> then*
[18:07] <pleia2> wfm
[18:07] <belkinsa> WFM?
[18:07] <pleia2> works for me
[18:07] <pleia2> technically that will begin my first cycle I'm taking off, so I won't participate on video and will just kind of lurk in case anyone needs me for anything
[18:07] <belkinsa> Ah.  I will set that as for us.
[18:08] <belkinsa> Alright, I will host it.
[18:08] <belkinsa> I can, rather.
[18:10] <belkinsa> Are we settled then on this matter?
[18:10] <belkinsa> #action belkinsa Set the session for 1800 UTC on Nov 12th.
[18:10] <meetingology> ACTION: belkinsa Set the session for 1800 UTC on Nov 12th.
[18:12] <belkinsa> Moving on.
[18:13] <belkinsa> #topic Blueprint for Utopic cycle: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1406-ubuntu-women
[18:14] <belkinsa> I have no updates of my items.
[18:14] <pleia2> please give away my harvest item
[18:14] <pleia2> I'm sorry I haven't gotten to it, just overestimated the time I'd have :(
[18:14] <pleia2> so if anyone else wants: Review Harvest bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/harvest
[18:15] <belkinsa> I can take it since I have to do it, but I will wait for the Haverst Item first
[18:15] <pleia2> the procedure will be browsing through all those bugs and identifying a few ones that either: look easy, look useful, look important; so we can give that list to our developer volunteers
[18:15] <pleia2> thanks
[18:16] <belkinsa> Not a poblem.
[18:16] <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, do you have an update on your item?
[18:16] <amani_glugcal> I think work is going on
[18:16] <belkinsa> Alright.
[18:16] <amani_glugcal> Emma is doing the specs added to that
[18:17] <amani_glugcal> the ggogle doc
[18:17] <belkinsa> Which one?  Is it shared between you two?
[18:18] <amani_glugcal> the common one
[18:18] <amani_glugcal> discussed on mailing list
[18:19] <belkinsa> For the quiz?
[18:19] <amani_glugcal> yes
[18:19] <amani_glugcal> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ds5VKE9Dj-mYJnJ459YQk9DDdJ_ihZFJT-23jr4XV9c/edit?usp=sharing
[18:19] <belkinsa> One sec
[18:19] <belkinsa> #topic Orientation quiz discussion
[18:20] <belkinsa> As most of the mailing list knows we have updated some of the parts of the quiz
[18:22] <belkinsa> It has expended but we still have to work to do.
[18:22] <amani_glugcal> yes
[18:23] <amani_glugcal> my suggestion was to make it
[18:23] <amani_glugcal> at different complexity
[18:23] <amani_glugcal> levels
[18:24] <amani_glugcal> the easier ones get done first
[18:25] <belkinsa> I see and but it needs to branch to since people have different skills.
[18:25] <belkinsa> As it does now.
[18:27] <amani_glugcal> We can also add things that are done at gnewsense
[18:27] <amani_glugcal> in advocacy
[18:27] <belkinsa> Yeah.
[18:27] <belkinsa> Science too.
[18:29] <belkinsa> Which I do need restart the team for science
[18:30] <amani_glugcal> that list is very inactive
[18:31] <belkinsa> Yeah, it's my fault for letting the team down.
[18:31] <belkinsa> Ubuntu Leadership too
[18:32] <amani_glugcal> how do we motivate science people in specific domains?
[18:32] <amani_glugcal> user base is big
[18:32] <pleia2> belkinsa: I wouldn't put it all on yourself, it's hard to get teams going and it's the responsibility of everyone involved, not just the leader :)
[18:32] <belkinsa> I don't know.  Maybe we could ask the Scientists team that?
[18:33] <belkinsa> pleia2, I know.
[18:33] <elizabethporras> hi, i am sorry for The late. I am from Colombia, and I would love to participate and involve people from my country.
[18:33] <pleia2> welcome elizabethporras :)
[18:33] <belkinsa> Welcome, elizabethporras.
[18:35] <elizabethporras> thanks plei2 and belkinsa
[18:36] <amani_glugcal> but making the sci people contribute needs a broader team
[18:37] <amani_glugcal> welcome elizabethporras
[18:38] <akk> What kind of contribution are you trying to get from science people?
[18:39] <amani_glugcal> improving all projects that they actually use/ customize/ hack_and_stop_at_that
[18:40] <amani_glugcal> Example: people write lot of LaTeX Customizations but they don't take it seriously
[18:41] <amani_glugcal> happens often in machine learning
[18:41] <amani_glugcal> too
[18:42] <belkinsa> Right.
[18:43] <belkinsa> Should we take this to the mailing-list?
[18:43] <amani_glugcal> of courseyes
[18:43] <akk> It would be great to see discussions like that on the ML.
[18:44] <belkinsa> #Action Move what we talked about to ML
[18:44] <meetingology> ACTION: Move what we talked about to ML
[18:44] <belkinsa> #topic ProjectHarvest Updates
[18:45] <belkinsa> I was thinking about doing a sprint for the bugs that it has.
[18:45] <belkinsa> What do you think?
[18:47] <elizabethporras> yesterday I saw The Project Harvest page.... I am not pretty sure but The bugs that are linked not always are upate... I mean i clicked on a bug and when i was redirected to launchpad The bug had already been fixed.
[18:49] <belkinsa> They are old since the Harvest is not development
[18:50] <belkinsa> And that's why took it up as a project.
[18:51] <belkinsa> And we need to sort out the old bugs to start the process of redevelopment
[18:51] <elizabethporras> well... I think that here from Colombia some people can colaborate... including me...  is a specific methodology?
[18:52] <amani_glugcal> do u have a loco
[18:52] <belkinsa> loco.ubuntu.com
[18:52] <amani_glugcal> local ubuntu team in columbia
[18:52] <elizabethporras> yes
[18:53] <elizabethporras> Ubuntu Colombia
[18:53] <belkinsa> How active are they?
[18:53] <amani_glugcal> how many women?
[18:53] <elizabethporras> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-co
[18:53] <elizabethporras> active women 3
[18:53] <belkinsa> Who are they, if you can answer that?
[18:54] <elizabethporras> in fact, toda y i am here un orden to learn and motivate
[18:55] <elizabethporras> The 3 of us... are systems engineers...
[18:55] <belkinsa> Ah.
[18:55] <elizabethporras> dont remember right The specific profile links un launchpad....
[18:56] <belkinsa> Okay, when do will want to the sprint for  the bugs?
[18:56] <elizabethporras> sorry.... for The autocorrection of my tablet
[18:56] <belkinsa> And how to do it.
[18:57] <elizabethporras> well... i think thta could be in a weekend
[18:58] <belkinsa> That could work or on a weekday night UTC
[18:58] <elizabethporras> maybe October 25.... and well... maybe you can suggest a methodology
[18:58] <elizabethporras> mmm here doesnt work,.. cause here in Colombia is afternoon...
[18:58] <belkinsa> Sure, via the ML or we can work on out via it also.
[18:58] <elizabethporras> we are gmt -5
[18:59] <belkinsa> Same here.
[18:59] <belkinsa> EST?
[18:59] <elizabethporras> we don use that time... just gmt -5
[18:59] <belkinsa> Okay.  I understand.
[18:59] <elizabethporras> sure through the ML...
[18:59] <belkinsa> Can I take this to the ML for more talk about this since we have more on it?
[19:00] <belkinsa> #action Set up a sprint for the bugs
[19:00] <meetingology> ACTION: Set up a sprint for the bugs
[19:00] <elizabethporras> right
[19:01] <belkinsa> #topic Any other business (AOB)
[19:01] <belkinsa> ANyone?
[19:02] <elizabethporras> I want to know... well I ask you for support in order to get more involved from my LoCo
[19:02] <belkinsa> Sure, I can help you.  I can cc the thread from UW ML to your's ML.
[19:03] <elizabethporras> in the Ubuntu Women project
[19:03] <belkinsa> Yeah, I was talking about both ML
[19:03] <belkinsa> Your LoCo's.
[19:04] <elizabethporras> well... I dont know if that is the best way... maybe.. I Think that if we can colaborate more... it is the way
[19:04] <belkinsa> Okay, I'm very good in community work here in the COmmunity.  this could work.
[19:05] <elizabethporras> our LoCo mailing list recieves lots f mails... and I dont want that information mixed, cause I want it focused... having in mind that we are few womens...
[19:06] <belkinsa> Then can I have those e-mails, via PM?
[19:06] <elizabethporras> right
[19:06] <amani_glugcal>  I hope they are on UW ML?
[19:06] <belkinsa> +1
[19:07] <elizabethporras> yes i am
[19:07] <belkinsa> How about they two?
[19:07] <belkinsa> the wto others?
[19:07] <elizabethporras> I am in the mailing
[19:07] <elizabethporras> dont know if they are there
[19:07] <belkinsa> Okay.
[19:08] <elizabethporras> they collaborate but I want to involve them in this level
[19:08] <amani_glugcal> We need more publicity of G+ UW
[19:08] <elizabethporras> *colaborate in our community...
[19:08] <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, +1
[19:09] <amani_glugcal> for
[19:09] <amani_glugcal> I will send invites outside group
[19:10] <belkinsa> #action amani_glugcal Send G+ (outside) invites to the UW group
[19:10] <meetingology> ACTION: amani_glugcal Send G+ (outside) invites to the UW group
[19:11] <belkinsa> Any other matters?
[19:11] <elizabethporras> from here, no
[19:11] <belkinsa> Okay, anyone else?
[19:12] <belkinsa> Safe to end meeting?
[19:12] <Mikaela> link to G+ UW group?
[19:13] <pleia2> it's a Page, not a group
[19:13] <belkinsa> http://identi.ca/ubuntuwomen
[19:13] <pleia2> belkinsa: that's not active
[19:13] <belkinsa> Wait, wrong one
[19:14] <amani_glugcal> https://plus.google.com/108721264946100842986/posts
[19:14] <amani_glugcal> community
[19:14] <pleia2> we lost the password when they did their change in authentication because we didn't have an email attached to it
[19:14] <belkinsa> Who was the power to remove the link on the blog?
[19:14] <pleia2> just just a page, not community/group - only admins can post things to it
[19:14] <pleia2> belkinsa: you :)
[19:14] <amani_glugcal> I am an admin
[19:14] <belkinsa> Not a problem
[19:15] <pleia2> belkinsa: log in to the blog, navigate to "links"
[19:15] <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, want to remove ii?
[19:15] <pleia2> delete the identica one
[19:15] <pleia2> amani_glugcal does not have access to the blog
[19:15] <pleia2> she was talking about G+ :)
[19:15] <belkinsa> Oh, then I will do it
[19:16] <belkinsa> #action belkinsa remove that Identica link on UW Blog
[19:16] <meetingology> ACTION: belkinsa remove that Identica link on UW Blog
[19:17] <pleia2> just to be clear with G+, only admins can post to it, it's not a community which anyone can post to, we can create one of those too but they are different things
[19:17] <pleia2> I don't think randomly inviting admins to our G+ page is a very good idea
[19:17] <Mikaela> Should someone create it now so it gets to meeting log?
[19:17] <belkinsa> It will log it
[19:17] <belkinsa> meetingology does
[19:17] <meetingology> belkinsa: Error: "does" is not a valid command.
[19:17] <Mikaela> I mean G+ group
[19:17] <amani_glugcal> so do we create a UW icommunity for
[19:18] <Mikaela> and link
[19:18] <amani_glugcal> interaction
[19:18] <pleia2> if you want, but we also have a facebook group that no one updates, and a forum no one uses, so I'd advise caution before creating yet another thing
[19:18] <amani_glugcal> people can subscribe to current one
[19:18] <Mikaela> I see
[19:19] <pleia2> https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuwomen/
[19:19] <pleia2> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=76
[19:19] <pleia2> I'm not trying to be discouraging, but historically we haven't really had long term volunteers to keep these sorts of things going, which is why we really only have announce-only pages/accounts
[19:19] <belkinsa> pleia2, no one really uses the forums.
[19:20] <pleia2> belkinsa: or the facebook group (we do use the facebook page), that's my point exactly
[19:20] <belkinsa> So, it seems that we are more IRC, ML based?
[19:21] <amani_glugcal> But on G+ we have a few active members
[19:21] <pleia2> amani_glugcal: yeah, there are a few folks who comment
[19:21] <Mikaela> I am not sure about ML, but IRC seems to have had a little activity lately.
[19:21] <pleia2> but that's a different thing than maintaining a G+ community, where the community creates content
[19:21] <belkinsa> IRC has been quiet always for our group
[19:22] <amani_glugcal> yes... it would be mostly announce + little more discussions
[19:22] <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, for G+?  Sure.
[19:22] <amani_glugcal> yes for G+
[19:24] <belkinsa> #action amani_glugcal  Post more content on G+ UW group
[19:24] <meetingology> ACTION: amani_glugcal  Post more content on G+ UW group
[19:25] <belkinsa> Are we set
[19:27] <belkinsa> If so, thank you for coming.
[19:27] <pleia2> thanks for chairing belkinsa :)
[19:27] <belkinsa> #endmeeting
[19:27] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 14 19:27:26 2014 UTC.
[19:27] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-women-project/2014/ubuntu-women-project.2014-10-14-18.00.moin.txt
[19:27] <belkinsa> Not a problem sorry for the lenghth
[19:28] <amani_glugcal> Thanks everyone