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Kilosmorning inetpro  Squirm  nuvolari  and others05:11
Kilosone thing about kde. no compiz crashed messages05:11
Squirmmorning05:11
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:06
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:11
theblazehen_hi ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos06:11
Kiloshi theblazehen_  06:12
=== theblazehen_ is now known as theblazehen
magespawngood morning all06:13
Kiloshi magespawn  06:13
theblazehenI got banned from #reddit-sysadmin, and ##linux, without saying anything ?!06:13
magespawnhi theblazehen 06:14
theblazehenhi magespawn06:14
magespawnthere mus be some reason, even if it just a mistake, is there a way to appeal?06:14
theblazehenmagespawn: dunno. Not really bothered though06:14
theblazehenwow, can join #reddit-sysadmin now...06:15
theblazehenand ##linux06:15
theblazehenQuassel was saying I can't do /nick theblazehen because I was banned there06:16
magespawnlooks like a glitch of some sort06:16
theblazehenmagespawn: yeah06:17
Kilosmagespawn  you still happy in the job?06:20
magespawnstill learning so yes06:21
Kiloshi SDC  thats a nice short nick06:21
Kilosmorning superfly  06:21
bduk1More almal06:33
Kiloshi bduk1  06:34
theblazehenhi bduk106:35
Kilosinetpro  ek eet my eerste marog bredie lunchtime06:39
superflyhi Kilos06:40
SquirmMaaz: coffee on06:43
* Maaz washes some mugs06:43
SquirmMaaz: larger06:43
Maazinna bucket for you Squirm06:43
Squirmsuperfly: I'm counting down the days ^^06:43
superflySquirm: woohoo!06:44
KilosMaaz  coffee please06:44
MaazKilos: Sure06:44
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!06:47
Squirmsuperfly: yeah...06:48
Squirmstarted packing06:48
KilosMaaz  ty06:54
MaazYou are welcome Kilos06:54
KilosThatGraemeGuy  http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/111702-great-value-with-new-r99-telkom-mobile-deal.html07:08
Kilosinetpro  ^^ is dit wat ons nodig het?07:17
inetprogood mornings07:17
inetproKilos: nee07:18
inetprowel, kyk gerus na die fyn skrif07:18
inetproKilos: marog? hmm...07:19
inetproklink interessant07:19
inetproactually, klink baie lekker, stuur vir my ook... sommer per epos07:20
Kiloswilde spinasie man. ek het laas jaar vir jou saad geoes07:23
inetproja ek onthou nou, hoekom ek sê stuur vir my ook07:24
Kilossal soek of sus dit nie als geplant het nie en vir jou pos of iets07:24
inetpro:-)07:24
Kilosinetpro  http://picpaste.com/Image0078-AU9QVvPC.jpg07:29
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: a good deal it may be but its overkill for my needs07:30
ThatGraemeGuy100 minutes a month is too much07:30
ThatGraemeGuyI use about 50 minutes in a month07:30
inetproKilos: eish! Lyk nie so lekker op daai foto nie07:30
ThatGraemeGuyR40 or so07:30
Kilosai!07:30
Kilosdit is vrek lekker man07:30
KilosThatGraemeGuy  lemme try read what they say07:31
ThatGraemeGuyits R99 for 100 minutes07:31
ThatGraemeGuyI spend/use less than that07:31
Kiloswhat about all the free calls and data07:32
ThatGraemeGuyam i not being clear? :)07:33
Kilosim misunderstanding something07:33
ThatGraemeGuyI spend R40 a month on airtime07:33
ThatGraemeGuywhy would I spend R99 a month?07:33
Kilosoh ya you not worried about the data stuff too07:34
ThatGraemeGuyno i have my 4GB SIM for that07:34
Kilosbut anyway i think telkom airtime is cheaper 07:35
ThatGraemeGuyheh07:35
ThatGraemeGuyR99 is not cheaper than R4007:35
Kilosi mean if you just buy a sim and airtime 07:43
Kilosnot with that contract thing07:44
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Kilosinetpro  what am i missing, they say - Telkom Mobile is offering 100 free minutes, unlimited on-net calls, 1GB all-network data, and unlimited Telkom Mobile data for R99 per month07:49
Kilosunlimited telkom data07:49
Kilosi see the fair usage stuffs but 10g  sounds good07:50
Kilosi must go back to school i think. dont even understand english anymore07:51
Kiloshi Kerbero  07:53
Kerberomore oom kilos07:53
inetproKilos: 24-month contract07:55
inetproUnlimited Telkom Mobile Data until 31 March 201507:56
inetprothat's just a few months07:56
inetpro10GB fair usage policy07:56
inetproslows down to a grind at a certain unknown point07:56
Kilosok ty ill stay with 2+107:57
inetproUnlimited Telkom Mobile to Telkom Mobile calls for the first 12 months07:57
inetproand then?07:57
Kilos?07:57
inetprowhat happens after the 12 months or after 31 March, they double the rates?07:58
Kilosi dunno07:58
inetproexactly07:58
inetproread the fine print07:58
Kiloswhy do you think i asked you07:58
inetpronot enough detail in that articla07:58
* inetpro don't like it when it looks too good to be true07:59
inetproand too many unnecessary complicated details just makes things extra confusing 08:00
* inetpro meanwhile has work to do08:01
Kilosty08:03
Kilosshame that sheldon guy in the mailing list needs to turn off the secure boot thing to get ubuntu going08:06
Kilosis the same prob golynx had08:07
Kilosoh its a dbn-lug mail08:12
Kiloswb ThatGraemeGuy  08:19
ThatGraemeGuyta08:20
Vince-0!08:23
Kiloshi Vince-0  08:23
Kiloshope that reply helped that shelldon guy08:23
Vince-0ya he will figure it out 08:23
magespawnback, power failure08:24
Squirm:P08:24
Squirmfun08:24
Kilosai! power in za sucks at times08:29
Symmetriahahahahaha08:34
Symmetriano it doesnt :) not compared to elsewhere 08:34
Kilosoh my08:58
magespawnback again09:28
theblazehen"1GB all-network data, and unlimited Telkom Mobile data for R99 per month" Eh?09:34
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: also includes a phone in the R99/month09:34
theblazehenhttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/111038-cell-c-free-whatsapp-what-about-voice-data.html hmm, might be worth getting TCP over Whatsapp working... :D09:36
theblazehen"send pictures, voice messages, videos, and text messages " :D09:36
magespawndoes not sound too bad as long as you have telkom coverage09:36
theblazehenWonder what the quality of voice messages are... Can probably use it with some kinda software modem09:37
theblazehenhttp://www.whence.com/minimodem/ :D09:38
Squirmtheblazehen: maybe just use voice notes in WhatsApp?09:39
Squirmisn't that what they're referring to?09:39
theblazehenSquirm: yeah, voice notes, with FSK for data transfer09:39
theblazehenSquirm: "isn't that what they're referring to?" Where?09:42
charlgood morning all09:49
charlMaaz: coffee on09:49
* Maaz puts the kettle on09:49
theblazehenhi charl09:50
theblazehenmaaz: Coffee please09:50
Maaztheblazehen: Yessir09:50
charlforget about those crappy ftth deals, this is more what i'm walking about http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/111370-biggest-adsl-downloaders-in-south-africa-2.html09:50
charlhi theblazehen 09:50
charlevery person needs to consume at least a terabyte or two per month09:51
theblazehencharl: nice :)09:51
charlwhy, because it's like pre-dinner mayonnaise, it's good for you09:51
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and theblazehen!09:53
charlMaaz: thanks09:53
Maazcharl: Okay :-)09:53
ThatGraemeGuyhow would i possibly consume a terabyte per month legitimately?09:54
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: linux ISO's, or that new south african netflix-kinda site?09:55
charlIPTV takes a lot of bandwidth if you don't stream over-compressed full hd09:55
ThatGraemeGuyI should re-install my OS every 5 minutes?09:55
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: Yes!09:55
ThatGraemeGuyyeah makes sense09:55
charlnetflix is mostly over-compressed though but you do get some really good content from youtube now09:56
charlyoutube used to look horrible but i've seen some great stuff in the last year09:56
charland we're now also starting with 4k ultra hd09:57
ThatGraemeGuywhat's an average 1.5 hour movie at 1080p? 8GB?09:59
charlyou can get 1440p on youtube now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUjmmz4FqeY09:59
ThatGraemeGuy1TB is a looooot of time sitting on your ass watching movies09:59
charlThatGraemeGuy: nonono, you're thinking over-compressed pirated copies10:00
ThatGraemeGuyheh10:00
ThatGraemeGuyi guess i don't really share the "download ALL THE THINGS!!!" mentality10:01
charlthis is an old post but https://gigaom.com/2013/03/01/4k-broadband-caps/10:02
ThatGraemeGuysouth african internet users are like the kid who was denied sweets and cholocates all his life suddenly being let loose in a candy10:02
ThatGraemeGuystore10:03
charl4K downloads will weigh in at a whopping 100 GB a piece10:03
* theblazehen wants a 4k display...10:03
theblazehenAnyone here got one?10:03
ThatGraemeGuyi just want my adsl back10:03
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: what happened?10:04
charlhttp://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4040932/sony-4k-movie-service-will-work-with-ps4-require-100gb-plus-downloads10:04
ThatGraemeGuymy local copper liberation front was hard at work on saturday10:04
charlthere in big orange letters "THE WHOLE WORLD IS MOVING MORE AND MORE TO DOWNLOAD."10:04
ThatGraemeGuysouth africa is not the whole world10:04
charllol10:05
charlthe whole world, except south africa10:05
charlyou see, japan has the bandwidth, *some* european countries have too (not all)10:05
charlthis makes it an exclusive service to some countries just due to internet access10:06
charli have 90mbps uncapped at home so for me it should be no problem10:06
charlbut people in belgium for example have (or used to have, in any case) 300gb per month or so caps10:07
charlbut yeah if you watch only 10 or 20 hours per month of 3k tv you will end up going over 1tb i guess10:08
charl*4k10:08
charlSymmetria: is kenya ready? :P10:08
JabberwockyA19charl: you get 2160p on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUvwba4DMLY10:21
JabberwockyA19that's the best I've seen10:21
JabberwockyA19not that my display can actually show it without zooming / cropping10:22
charlah that is 4k then10:27
charlif even youtube supports it the writing is on the wall10:27
charlhttps://www.youtube.com/yt/press/en/statistics.html10:28
charlAccording to Nielsen, YouTube reaches more US adults ages 18-34 than any cable network10:28
charlOver 6 billion hours of video are watched each month on YouTube—that's almost an hour for every person on Earth10:29
bushtechwhy do I get the distinct feeling that I'm sucking on the hind ...10:34
SquirmI uploaded a 4K GoPro video to YouTube, but it dropped it down to 2160p10:37
Squirmand then when I edited it on YouTube, down to 1080p10:38
Kilosanyone using this http://viber.com/#nokia10:48
Trixar_zaWell damn10:49
Trixar_zaI saw viber and I came up with a very inappropriate attachment for a mobile phone10:49
Kilosoh Trixar_za  my niece has some wise comment you might like10:52
Kilosour body contains 70% water so she isnt fat, just water logged10:53
Trixar_zalol10:57
Trixar_zaBtw Squirm, I just realized something10:58
Trixar_zaWhen Shaolin was here, I got them lost giving me a lift home too.10:58
Squirmlol Trixar_za 11:40
charlSquirm: it couldn't have "dropped" it down to 2160p because 4k *is* 2160p i thought?11:46
charlKilos: i happen to know one or two people using viber11:46
Kilosi was trying to get whatsapp working on pidgin when i saw that charl  . 11:47
charlthere are a *lot* of alternatives to whatsapp right now, especially post-nsa11:47
charli think the big feature of viber is free calls11:48
charlnice thing is, they have a debian package also for the desktop11:48
Kilosalternatives dont help me i need to get whatsapp going because thats what my contacts use11:48
Kilosmxit seems to be dying11:48
charlmxit still exists?11:49
Kilosfone peeps complain it eats battery that whatsapp doesnt11:49
charlah yes i hear whatsapp is really well optimised in that regard11:49
Kilosyeah they offering R2 for every person you bring to mxit hehe11:49
charlheh they are getting desperate indeed11:50
Kilosi chat to tara on mxit from pc and xmpp from tablet when rugby is on11:51
charlwhich xmpp client do you use ?11:52
charlon the tablet11:52
Kilosi use xmpp in pidgin she chats from her mail account i think11:55
charlah11:55
Kiloseven my boet uses mxit still from dubai but also uses whatsapp on his bb11:55
Kilosbasically looks like mxit is dead for cellphones11:57
Kilosbut on pc mxit is faster than xmpp aim and all the others11:58
charlinteresting12:02
charldoes mxit still offer a xmpp gateway? the used to have one but they closed it down some time ago i thought12:02
Kilosbiggest weakness in mobile devices is battery life12:03
Kilosi dunno , pidgin just shows mxit12:04
Kilosid be lost without pidgin12:05
Squirmhmm12:27
Squirmbittorrent developed a chat application12:27
Squirmcharl: I thought 4K was 4*HD, being 4096?12:27
Squirmbut that seems wrong now12:27
Squirm3840 × 216012:28
Squirmah12:28
SquirmDCI 4K (native resolution)4096 × 216012:28
Squirmalright then12:29
charl:)12:38
charlSSL 3.0 vulnerability to be revealed hahaha13:17
ThatGraemeGuy:'(13:37
Vince-0Sup Kilos ? 14:31
Vince-0I'm going to do some weighing tonight14:31
Kiloshahaha np Vince-0  14:32
Kilosweigh yourself first14:33
Vince-0already did14:35
Vince-0and getting fat sitting on my arse all day14:35
Kiloslol14:36
Kilosits not the sitting its the eating14:37
Vince-0nort hey, diet is good I eat mostly veg and little carbs - sitting is the nicotene of our generation14:37
Kilosyou gonna have to start jogging too14:37
Vince-0ya moving is a problem14:37
Vince-0and I started playing space engineers - losing many hours to it14:38
Kiloslol14:49
Kilossorry had to go move vehicle for sis14:49
Vince-0im out! Until later14:49
Kiloswhat does this mean??  [Error] /:)žqÐZÕÞWHO: Unknown command.15:22
Kiloscame in here while i was outside putting sheep away15:23
Kiloshi Xethron  or wb15:30
Squirmhello16:51
Kiloshello Squirm  17:20
Kiloshi Tonberry  17:22
Tonberryhi17:22
charlhi Tonberry 17:32
Kiloswb Vince-0  18:07
Vince-0haa18:07
Vince-0i18:07
inetprogood evenin18:30
Kilosevening inetpro  18:35
charlgood evening Vince-0, inetpro18:49
Vince-0sup19:23
Kiloshave you weighed Vince-0  19:36
Kilos?19:36
Vince-0about to19:36
Vince-0do you want this old scsi drive?19:36
Kilosall and any you have please19:42
Kilosim almost falling asleep here. must be getting old i think19:43
Vince-0ya me2 still have work to do19:45
Vince-0chat tomorrow!19:45
Kiloshaha you also getting old19:46
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. that includes you inetpro  19:47
Kiloshi bye superfly  19:47
magespawnhi all20:32
magespawnanybody using sysdig?20:33
magespawnhttp://www.sysdig.org/20:33

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