[05:11] morning inetpro Squirm nuvolari and others [05:11] one thing about kde. no compiz crashed messages [05:11] morning [06:06] mornings [06:11] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:11] hi ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos [06:12] hi theblazehen_ === theblazehen_ is now known as theblazehen [06:13] good morning all [06:13] hi magespawn [06:13] I got banned from #reddit-sysadmin, and ##linux, without saying anything ?! [06:14] hi theblazehen [06:14] hi magespawn [06:14] there mus be some reason, even if it just a mistake, is there a way to appeal? [06:14] magespawn: dunno. Not really bothered though [06:15] wow, can join #reddit-sysadmin now... [06:15] and ##linux [06:16] Quassel was saying I can't do /nick theblazehen because I was banned there [06:16] looks like a glitch of some sort [06:17] magespawn: yeah [06:20] magespawn you still happy in the job? [06:21] still learning so yes [06:21] hi SDC thats a nice short nick [06:21] morning superfly [06:33] More almal [06:34] hi bduk1 [06:35] hi bduk1 [06:39] inetpro ek eet my eerste marog bredie lunchtime [06:40] hi Kilos [06:43] Maaz: coffee on [06:43] * Maaz washes some mugs [06:43] Maaz: larger [06:43] inna bucket for you Squirm [06:43] superfly: I'm counting down the days ^^ [06:44] Squirm: woohoo! [06:44] Maaz coffee please [06:44] Kilos: Sure [06:47] Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! [06:48] superfly: yeah... [06:48] started packing [06:54] Maaz ty [06:54] You are welcome Kilos [07:08] ThatGraemeGuy http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/111702-great-value-with-new-r99-telkom-mobile-deal.html [07:17] inetpro ^^ is dit wat ons nodig het? [07:17] good mornings [07:18] Kilos: nee [07:18] wel, kyk gerus na die fyn skrif [07:19] Kilos: marog? hmm... [07:19] klink interessant [07:20] actually, klink baie lekker, stuur vir my ook... sommer per epos [07:23] wilde spinasie man. ek het laas jaar vir jou saad geoes [07:24] ja ek onthou nou, hoekom ek sê stuur vir my ook [07:24] sal soek of sus dit nie als geplant het nie en vir jou pos of iets [07:24] :-) [07:29] inetpro http://picpaste.com/Image0078-AU9QVvPC.jpg [07:30] Kilos: a good deal it may be but its overkill for my needs [07:30] 100 minutes a month is too much [07:30] I use about 50 minutes in a month [07:30] Kilos: eish! Lyk nie so lekker op daai foto nie [07:30] R40 or so [07:30] ai! [07:30] dit is vrek lekker man [07:31] ThatGraemeGuy lemme try read what they say [07:31] its R99 for 100 minutes [07:31] I spend/use less than that [07:32] what about all the free calls and data [07:33] am i not being clear? :) [07:33] im misunderstanding something [07:33] I spend R40 a month on airtime [07:33] why would I spend R99 a month? [07:34] oh ya you not worried about the data stuff too [07:34] no i have my 4GB SIM for that [07:35] but anyway i think telkom airtime is cheaper [07:35] heh [07:35] R99 is not cheaper than R40 [07:43] i mean if you just buy a sim and airtime [07:44] not with that contract thing === SDC is now known as SDCDev [07:49] inetpro what am i missing, they say - Telkom Mobile is offering 100 free minutes, unlimited on-net calls, 1GB all-network data, and unlimited Telkom Mobile data for R99 per month [07:49] unlimited telkom data [07:50] i see the fair usage stuffs but 10g sounds good [07:51] i must go back to school i think. dont even understand english anymore [07:53] hi Kerbero [07:53] more oom kilos [07:55] Kilos: 24-month contract [07:56] Unlimited Telkom Mobile Data until 31 March 2015 [07:56] that's just a few months [07:56] 10GB fair usage policy [07:56] slows down to a grind at a certain unknown point [07:57] ok ty ill stay with 2+1 [07:57] Unlimited Telkom Mobile to Telkom Mobile calls for the first 12 months [07:57] and then? [07:57] ? [07:58] what happens after the 12 months or after 31 March, they double the rates? [07:58] i dunno [07:58] exactly [07:58] read the fine print [07:58] why do you think i asked you [07:58] not enough detail in that articla [07:59] * inetpro don't like it when it looks too good to be true [08:00] and too many unnecessary complicated details just makes things extra confusing [08:01] * inetpro meanwhile has work to do [08:03] ty [08:06] shame that sheldon guy in the mailing list needs to turn off the secure boot thing to get ubuntu going [08:07] is the same prob golynx had [08:12] oh its a dbn-lug mail [08:19] wb ThatGraemeGuy [08:20] ta [08:23] ! [08:23] hi Vince-0 [08:23] hope that reply helped that shelldon guy [08:23] ya he will figure it out [08:24] back, power failure [08:24] :P [08:24] fun [08:29] ai! power in za sucks at times [08:34] hahahahaha [08:34] no it doesnt :) not compared to elsewhere [08:58] oh my [09:28] back again [09:34] "1GB all-network data, and unlimited Telkom Mobile data for R99 per month" Eh? [09:34] ThatGraemeGuy: also includes a phone in the R99/month [09:36] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/111038-cell-c-free-whatsapp-what-about-voice-data.html hmm, might be worth getting TCP over Whatsapp working... :D [09:36] "send pictures, voice messages, videos, and text messages " :D [09:36] does not sound too bad as long as you have telkom coverage [09:37] Wonder what the quality of voice messages are... Can probably use it with some kinda software modem [09:38] http://www.whence.com/minimodem/ :D [09:39] theblazehen: maybe just use voice notes in WhatsApp? [09:39] isn't that what they're referring to? [09:39] Squirm: yeah, voice notes, with FSK for data transfer [09:42] Squirm: "isn't that what they're referring to?" Where? [09:49] good morning all [09:49] Maaz: coffee on [09:49] * Maaz puts the kettle on [09:50] hi charl [09:50] maaz: Coffee please [09:50] theblazehen: Yessir [09:50] forget about those crappy ftth deals, this is more what i'm walking about http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/111370-biggest-adsl-downloaders-in-south-africa-2.html [09:50] hi theblazehen [09:51] every person needs to consume at least a terabyte or two per month [09:51] charl: nice :) [09:51] why, because it's like pre-dinner mayonnaise, it's good for you [09:53] Coffee's ready for charl and theblazehen! [09:53] Maaz: thanks [09:53] charl: Okay :-) [09:54] how would i possibly consume a terabyte per month legitimately? [09:55] ThatGraemeGuy: linux ISO's, or that new south african netflix-kinda site? [09:55] IPTV takes a lot of bandwidth if you don't stream over-compressed full hd [09:55] I should re-install my OS every 5 minutes? [09:55] ThatGraemeGuy: Yes! [09:55] yeah makes sense [09:56] netflix is mostly over-compressed though but you do get some really good content from youtube now [09:56] youtube used to look horrible but i've seen some great stuff in the last year [09:57] and we're now also starting with 4k ultra hd [09:59] what's an average 1.5 hour movie at 1080p? 8GB? [09:59] you can get 1440p on youtube now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUjmmz4FqeY [09:59] 1TB is a looooot of time sitting on your ass watching movies [10:00] ThatGraemeGuy: nonono, you're thinking over-compressed pirated copies [10:00] heh [10:01] i guess i don't really share the "download ALL THE THINGS!!!" mentality [10:02] this is an old post but https://gigaom.com/2013/03/01/4k-broadband-caps/ [10:02] south african internet users are like the kid who was denied sweets and cholocates all his life suddenly being let loose in a candy [10:03] store [10:03] 4K downloads will weigh in at a whopping 100 GB a piece [10:03] * theblazehen wants a 4k display... [10:03] Anyone here got one? [10:03] i just want my adsl back [10:04] ThatGraemeGuy: what happened? [10:04] http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/28/4040932/sony-4k-movie-service-will-work-with-ps4-require-100gb-plus-downloads [10:04] my local copper liberation front was hard at work on saturday [10:04] there in big orange letters "THE WHOLE WORLD IS MOVING MORE AND MORE TO DOWNLOAD." [10:04] south africa is not the whole world [10:05] lol [10:05] the whole world, except south africa [10:05] you see, japan has the bandwidth, *some* european countries have too (not all) [10:06] this makes it an exclusive service to some countries just due to internet access [10:06] i have 90mbps uncapped at home so for me it should be no problem [10:07] but people in belgium for example have (or used to have, in any case) 300gb per month or so caps [10:08] but yeah if you watch only 10 or 20 hours per month of 3k tv you will end up going over 1tb i guess [10:08] *4k [10:08] Symmetria: is kenya ready? :P [10:21] charl: you get 2160p on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUvwba4DMLY [10:21] that's the best I've seen [10:22] not that my display can actually show it without zooming / cropping [10:27] ah that is 4k then [10:27] if even youtube supports it the writing is on the wall [10:28] https://www.youtube.com/yt/press/en/statistics.html [10:28] According to Nielsen, YouTube reaches more US adults ages 18-34 than any cable network [10:29] Over 6 billion hours of video are watched each month on YouTube—that's almost an hour for every person on Earth [10:34] why do I get the distinct feeling that I'm sucking on the hind ... [10:37] I uploaded a 4K GoPro video to YouTube, but it dropped it down to 2160p [10:38] and then when I edited it on YouTube, down to 1080p [10:48] anyone using this http://viber.com/#nokia [10:49] Well damn [10:49] I saw viber and I came up with a very inappropriate attachment for a mobile phone [10:52] oh Trixar_za my niece has some wise comment you might like [10:53] our body contains 70% water so she isnt fat, just water logged [10:57] lol [10:58] Btw Squirm, I just realized something [10:58] When Shaolin was here, I got them lost giving me a lift home too. [11:40] lol Trixar_za [11:46] Squirm: it couldn't have "dropped" it down to 2160p because 4k *is* 2160p i thought? [11:46] Kilos: i happen to know one or two people using viber [11:47] i was trying to get whatsapp working on pidgin when i saw that charl . [11:47] there are a *lot* of alternatives to whatsapp right now, especially post-nsa [11:48] i think the big feature of viber is free calls [11:48] nice thing is, they have a debian package also for the desktop [11:48] alternatives dont help me i need to get whatsapp going because thats what my contacts use [11:48] mxit seems to be dying [11:49] mxit still exists? [11:49] fone peeps complain it eats battery that whatsapp doesnt [11:49] ah yes i hear whatsapp is really well optimised in that regard [11:49] yeah they offering R2 for every person you bring to mxit hehe [11:50] heh they are getting desperate indeed [11:51] i chat to tara on mxit from pc and xmpp from tablet when rugby is on [11:52] which xmpp client do you use ? [11:52] on the tablet [11:55] i use xmpp in pidgin she chats from her mail account i think [11:55] ah [11:55] even my boet uses mxit still from dubai but also uses whatsapp on his bb [11:57] basically looks like mxit is dead for cellphones [11:58] but on pc mxit is faster than xmpp aim and all the others [12:02] interesting [12:02] does mxit still offer a xmpp gateway? the used to have one but they closed it down some time ago i thought [12:03] biggest weakness in mobile devices is battery life [12:04] i dunno , pidgin just shows mxit [12:05] id be lost without pidgin [12:27] hmm [12:27] bittorrent developed a chat application [12:27] charl: I thought 4K was 4*HD, being 4096? [12:27] but that seems wrong now [12:28] 3840 × 2160 [12:28] ah [12:28] DCI 4K (native resolution) 4096 × 2160 [12:29] alright then [12:38] :) [13:17] SSL 3.0 vulnerability to be revealed hahaha [13:37] :'( [14:31] Sup Kilos ? [14:31] I'm going to do some weighing tonight [14:32] hahaha np Vince-0 [14:33] weigh yourself first [14:35] already did [14:35] and getting fat sitting on my arse all day [14:36] lol [14:37] its not the sitting its the eating [14:37] nort hey, diet is good I eat mostly veg and little carbs - sitting is the nicotene of our generation [14:37] you gonna have to start jogging too [14:37] ya moving is a problem [14:38] and I started playing space engineers - losing many hours to it [14:49] lol [14:49] sorry had to go move vehicle for sis [14:49] im out! Until later [15:22] what does this mean?? [Error] /:)žqÐZÕÞWHO: Unknown command. [15:23] came in here while i was outside putting sheep away [15:30] hi Xethron or wb [16:51] hello [17:20] hello Squirm [17:22] hi Tonberry [17:22] hi [17:32] hi Tonberry [18:07] wb Vince-0 [18:07] haa [18:07] i [18:30] good evenin [18:35] evening inetpro [18:49] good evening Vince-0, inetpro [19:23] sup [19:36] have you weighed Vince-0 [19:36] ? [19:36] about to [19:36] do you want this old scsi drive? [19:42] all and any you have please [19:43] im almost falling asleep here. must be getting old i think [19:45] ya me2 still have work to do [19:45] chat tomorrow! [19:46] haha you also getting old [19:47] night all. sleep tight. that includes you inetpro [19:47] hi bye superfly [20:32] hi all [20:33] anybody using sysdig? [20:33] http://www.sysdig.org/