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vSorry, I don't know anything about wsky00:46
milad1512why in site is says it is highly recommended and preferred to use torrent download ?02:35
PiciBecause that puts less strain on the Xubuntu servers02:36
milad1512ok, thanks02:36
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chaotixhello, i am trying to get a conky config to look right, and was hoping to get a hand.  it is supposed to have a transparent background,  but for some reason the background of the conky is the default wallpaper of the distro, no matter what i set my wallpaper to... I am using xubuntu 12.04, can anyone help me with this?  this is the conky i am trying to use:  http://zagortenay333.deviantart.com/art/Conky-Vision-395777503     ...and this is my screenshot:02:55
chaotixhttp://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10132014-105231pm.php][img]http://en.zimagez.com/avatar/screenshot-10132014-105231pm.png02:55
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ObrienDave!crosspost | chaotix03:02
ubottuchaotix: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.03:02
chaotixObrienDave, i was not aware03:03
chaotixthanks for pointing that out03:03
chaotixi have figured it out now03:04
ObrienDave'tis ok, no worries03:04
chaotixi just needed to uncomment two lines in the conkyrc03:04
chaotixbye03:04
ObrienDavegood luck and have fun03:04
chaotixthanks03:04
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bellowI have some bed stuff that when I wash the bed stuff it smells clean but after I dry it there is bad odor coming from them. More info in this link http://pastebin.com/Ard4SXiK06:57
Weaselwebhi, I'm running Xubuntu 14.04.1 and have a custom sheel script setting some development variables. this shell script is sourced by .bashrc. now starting eclipse from xterminal has those variables set, while eclipse started from launcher does not. how can I set environment variables using that shell script?07:05
ochosiWeaselweb: you could create a launcher (or edit eclipse's launcher) to run the shell script instead of just executing eclipse?07:10
Weaselwebis there no generic way? maybe I need those settins for other applications too. I do not want to create specific launchers for each task I need to run07:12
WeaselwebI found http://superuser.com/questions/485499/how-to-set-environment-variables-for-xfce-windowing-environment but it does not work07:12
bonk3rzzwhat gtk peeps running08:25
xubuntu27wbjr????08:40
xubuntu27w??08:41
Unit193!fr | xubuntu27w08:42
ubottuxubuntu27w: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.08:42
Unit193You'll have to use words to ask there too though.08:42
xubuntu27wmerci08:43
ioanhi, I'm themeing xubuntu and need Xfce-Dusk theme09:43
ioan(I've used that while I had another OS, with Xfce)09:43
ioanin which package do I find it09:44
ioan?09:44
jhenke_hi folks, just wondering, is there a plan to change the purple highlight colour back to blue for the final 14.10 by default? or is the purple intended for release as well (just wondering)09:44
knomejhenke_, that's going to be permanent in 14.1009:47
jhenke_hmm okay09:48
ioannevermind, it was in gtk2-engines-xfce09:49
bgardnerGood morning all.  I note xfce4-weather-plugin is floating at the top of the tank for the last few days, apparently due to an API change.  I can see what I think is the Bugzilla entry (https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10916), but Launchpad doesn't indicate that Xubuntu is aware.  Am I looking in the right place for tracking this in Xubuntu?12:49
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 10916 in General "Plugin has to be updated or will soon stop working" [Normal,Reopened]12:49
xubuntu36ohello13:12
xubuntu36ois it possible 2 install xubuntu from kubuntu?13:12
xubuntu36oso, that kubuntu is deleted, and xubuntu is installed13:13
baizonxubuntu36o: yes it is13:14
xubuntu36obaizon: is there a wiki articel for it?13:15
xubuntu36oi found that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux13:15
baizonxubuntu36o: google in most cases should have something... for example this: http://www.linux.org/threads/converting-between-the-ubuntus.5079/13:15
baizonxubuntu36o: or this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xfce13:16
xubuntu36ooh, okay thanks13:18
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xubuntu58whi15:06
xubuntu58wi need help15:07
GridCube!hi | xubuntu58w15:08
ubottuxubuntu58w: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!15:08
LinnakHi, when i want to play a video file with parole i got an error: gstreamer backed error - Could not initialise Xv output15:09
LinnakShould I install something?15:09
LinnakThe files are mp4 and mkv format15:10
Poisoned_DragonHuh, never saw that one before. Is this a recent thing, or has it happened the whole time?15:10
LinnakPoisoned_Dragon: Talking to me?15:11
xubuntu58wguys15:12
Poisoned_DragonYuppers.15:12
xubuntu58wcan taskbar be at bottom ?15:12
holsteinxubuntu58w: yes15:12
LinnakI've just installed the system15:12
LinnakAnd also why is the libreoffice look like windows2000 style. Should I install a theme or something?15:12
holsteinxubuntu58w: you can "right click" on the panel or panel elements and move or remove or edit.. i suggest using the guest account or a live CD to learn how to customize15:13
xubuntu58wthanks15:13
holstein!restricted | Linnak15:13
ubottuLinnak: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:13
GridCubexubuntu58w, yes, unlock it in setting, grad and drop the panel from a corner15:13
Linnakholstein: Thanks15:13
holsteinLinnak: as far as the "theme", i would look for and apply updates.. with the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" command in a terminal, or however you prefer to update, and if your issue with the look/feel is still there, take a screenshot and let the volunteers know what you want to address specifically15:14
xubuntu58wwhat is grad15:16
xubuntu58wand15:16
Poisoned_DragonWorst case scenario would be to use VLC. I don't think it uses gstreamer libraries.15:16
holsteinxubuntu58w: grad, in relation to what?15:16
xubuntu58wwhich is more light lxde or xfce or just for the latest versions ?15:16
xubuntu58wgrid writed it to me15:17
Poisoned_DragonI always pull parole on a fresh install.15:17
xubuntu58wgrad and drop15:17
Linnaki installed restricted extras same error15:17
holsteinxubuntu58w: the "l" is from "lxde", which is "lightweight" x desktop environment15:17
xubuntu58wi know but15:17
xubuntu58wbefore ı see15:18
xubuntu58wxfce was more lightweight than lxde15:18
Poisoned_DragonLxde is kinda lighter. Certainly modular, like xfce. I just don't like lxde as much.15:18
holsteinxubuntu58w: its always a trade off and a compromise15:18
xubuntu58wi should be first at google if u search15:18
holsteinxubuntu58w: no one will say xfce is lighter than lxde.. but, its not really all that much heavier15:18
xubuntu58wok15:18
xubuntu58wi didnt liked lubuntu15:18
holsteinxubuntu58w: you may find xfce similarly light, and easier to use15:19
xubuntu58wwill install xubuntu15:19
holsteinxubuntu58w: they are *all* ubuntu15:19
xubuntu58wı know15:19
xubuntu58wnow ım running kubuntu15:19
holsteinLinnak: i would try seperating out the codec support from the playback..15:19
xubuntu58wits contains a lot of things that confuses mind in the UI15:19
GridCubexubuntu58w, grad == drag15:20
Poisoned_DragonLinnak, you said it was a fresh install?15:20
holsteinxubuntu58w: thats why there are other options available..15:20
xubuntu58walso cant open installed apps quickly from start menu and some slow15:20
holsteinxubuntu58w: there are *many* ways to open applications.. many of which would work in any DE15:21
xubuntu58wthank you holstein and gridcube for your helps15:21
xubuntu58wbye15:21
holsteinxubuntu58w: such as synapse or kupfer..15:21
Linnakholstein: How do you mean separating?15:21
LinnakPoisoned_Dragon: Yes a fresh one15:21
Poisoned_DragonLinnak, install updates. Parole's issues should resolve itself.15:22
holsteinLinnak: i mean, try known good files with default support.. to seperate out is it codec support or bad files.. or OS misconfigureded15:22
LinnakPoisoned_Dragon: Updates was the first thing I did15:22
Linnakholstein: OK15:23
Poisoned_DragonIt's a missih gstreamer package that now gets installed with a newer version of parole.15:23
holsteinLinnak: try again in a terminal. to be sure.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"15:23
holsteinalso, VLC is one of the first things i install .. i actually prefer it15:23
xubuntu02whi15:23
xubuntu02wım that guy that was asked some questions15:23
Linnakholstein: I use that as well. I just tried the things I do with a basic system15:24
xubuntu02wı want to know one more thing15:24
holstein!ask xubuntu02w15:24
xubuntu02wwhen ı drag and drop the taskbar to bottom will it be like kde's or lubuntu's taskbar15:25
Poisoned_DragonIf not, Linnak, there is a terminal command you can try. parole --xv false15:25
xubuntu02wso no dark15:25
xubuntu02wwhite and no blur15:25
xubuntu02wor some blur like kde plasma15:25
holsteinxubuntu02w: i suggest trying it in the live CD or the guest account. the changes you make will not be persistent15:25
xubuntu02wok but15:26
xubuntu02wthis is very important for me15:26
xubuntu02wif ı can15:26
holsteinxubuntu02w: then, you can see first hand if it fits your needs15:26
xubuntu02wı will install15:26
holsteinxubuntu02w: if i want blur, i make blur.. if i dont, i dont..15:26
xubuntu02wok15:26
holsteinxubuntu02w: you can experiement with all of this with a live CD *before* installing15:26
xubuntu02wokay15:26
xubuntu02wthank yoı15:26
holsteinlive USB..15:26
xubuntu02wı got it15:27
holsteini say, get something that best fits your needs and machine and try and just use it for while.. try and not make large changes to it right off.. try the defaults, and learn to configure settings.. then, i think you'll find you can implement literally most anything you want15:28
LinnakPoisoned_Dragon:  parole --xv false did the job. thanks15:30
Poisoned_DragonYou're welcome.15:30
Poisoned_DragonIt's a dirty solution but, good for the short term.15:31
milad1512i installed xubuntu from unity, and i want to uninstall unity, what should i do ?15:32
holsteinmilad1512: i would acually first consider the "if it aint broke" saying.. and think about leaving it, after looking at the actual hard drive space that it would free up.. i would refer to something like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1976266 or try removing ubuntu-desktop and see what is offered to be removed..15:34
genii!purexfce15:35
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »15:35
geniiHeh, somewhat out of date now15:35
Linnakso here is the Libreoffice looks like windows2000 style: http://www.kephost.com/images/2014/10/14/Screenshot-2014-10-14-17.16.03.png15:37
LinnakThe edges of the windows are sharp not smooth rounded. Is it norman on xfce?15:38
milad1512holstein, is it ok to remove unity from software center ?15:39
milad1512ubuttu , ?15:40
milad1512ubottu . Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal). If you're using 12.04, go here. If you're using 11.10, go here. If you're using 10.04, go here. " i have 14.04.1 !15:41
ubottumilad1512: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:41
slickymasterWorkmilad1512 ubottu is a bot, not a real person ;)15:46
milad1512is it ok to do this ? "sudo apt-get remove --purge unity" ?15:48
holsteinmilad1512: as i said, i would look and see what the benefits are, which is literally only the hard drive space freed up15:49
Picimilad1512: use the -s (simulate) switch to see what will happen when you do that.  Obviously don't do it if it looks like it will remove too many pacakges.15:50
milad1512holstein , do you know how much size will be freed up ?15:53
milad1512Pici , it just removes the "ubuntu-desktop* unity*"15:53
holsteinmilad1512: i dont.. but, i would look and see.. its likely a few hundred mb's.. nothing that i would be concerned about15:54
holsteinubuntu-desktop meta package may offer to remove what you are wanting to remove..15:54
milad1512holstein , if it's possibly better i want to use that command i wrote earlier. so what do you say ?15:56
milad1512holstein , i have 1 T hard , but yes , if i don't use the unity a few hundred certainly concerns me still.15:57
holsteinmilad1512: then, feel free and research how to remove it.. i would do it with the commands Pici suggested, and see that the commands are going to remove what i want to remove.. as for "is it safe?".. you should have proper backups in place regardless.. consider imaging so you can revert easily15:58
milad1512holstein , as i said i used that command and it said it only remove ubuntu-desktop* unity*,  so is it safe ?15:59
holsteinmilad1512: the safest things i can suggest are, either leave it alone, since nothing is broken, and the benefits are a small amount of hard disk space.. or, have proper backups/images since *all* hard drives will fail, and that is a "good" step regardless.. otherwise, is the command removing what you want to have removed? is so use it16:01
milad1512holstein , i'll risk, i think :)16:05
holsteinmilad1512: have backups, and risk nothing.. since your hard drive and all others fail, its a good plan regardless16:05
milad1512holstein , ok thanks16:07
milad1512another question16:07
milad1512can i install xubuntu with ubuntu live cd ?16:08
milad1512using TRY UBUNTU . bottom ?16:08
holsteinmilad1512: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. and you are asking about, and describing how to do that.. but, you dont at install time.. with the ubuntu iso, you get ubuntu.. you then can install what you like (xfce or xubuntu's desktop, for example).. or, you can use the "net install" mini iso..16:10
holstein!mini16:10
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD16:10
holsteinfrom the mini iso, you can basically choose what you want to end up with, which gets downloaded at install time.. but, you dont get to audition the desktop with the "try" option16:11
milad1512holstein , ubotty , that sure is useful ; thanks16:14
holsteinmilad1512: ubottu is a bot.. no problem16:14
holstein!bot16:15
ubottuHi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone16:15
milad1512ubottu is seriously a bot ?16:15
ubottumilad1512: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:15
milad1512wow, tanks anyway16:17
GridCube!thanks16:19
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:19
garandilIn 14.04.01 after the latest kernel upgrade my laptop have started to act strange, it will not boot unless I unplug my USB3.0 SSD drive from the machine and replug it while being in rescue mode for the previous kernel and replug the USB drive.. then I am able to reboot and get into the previous kernel annotation in Grub, booting Windows 7 works every time. Any clues are appreciated.16:20
holsteingarandil: the kernel shouldnt effect your booting windows in any way.. so, thats a 'red flag' to me16:20
holsteingarandil: id say, it could be that the "sudo update-grub" command that would have been ran after the installation of the new kernel may have written settings about the USB hard drive you reference16:21
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair can be helpful..16:22
garandilran update-grub now, will see how that works16:22
milad1512what's the command to kill all the programs i run at the same time ?16:35
deshipumilad1512: kill -116:36
milad1512thanks16:37
milad1512deshipu, actually , it was kill -9 -1 . but thanks you made me remember16:39
deshipu-9 makes it a hard kill16:39
milad1512deshipu, but kill -1 didn't work16:40
deshipumilad1512: sorry16:40
milad1512deshipu, nooooo. what are you sorry for ? . as i said you made me remember so i should be thanking and thanks16:41
deshipumilad1512: but I remembered wrong :)16:41
deshipuseems like you have to pass the signal number if you are specifying -16:41
deshipu-116:41
milad1512deshipu , and i remembered nothing and you helped me, and yes16:42
deshipuyw16:43
milad1512i gotta go do something dangerous as uninstalling unity so bye for now, pray for me16:43
holsteinmilad1512: just backup, and plan for failure.. then, you will be "safe"16:44
milad1512get my back up on what ?16:44
milad1512on hard or dvd ?16:44
holsteinmilad1512: *anything*.. an image.. another hard drive, since that hard drive *is* going to fail16:45
milad1512are you sure it going to fail ?16:45
holsteinmilad1512: yes.. they *all* do16:45
deshipusooner or later16:45
milad1512even though i installed xubuntu ?16:45
deshiputhere are two kinds of people: those who make backups, and those who will make backups16:45
holsteinso, planning for that factual, inevitable act will help16:45
holsteinmilad1512: that is hardware... the hardware will fail..16:46
holsteinmilad1512: linux doesnt magically protect your hard drive from failing, as they all do16:46
milad1512holstein , have you tried that yourself '?16:46
holsteinmilad1512: tried what? proper backups? yes.. i image where i want an image. using clonezilla.. and i have multiple copies of important data..16:47
holsteinmilad1512: its a fact that your hard drives will all fail.. the one ubuntu is on. the one you backup to. the one in your phone.. the one at the server this chat is running on.. they *all* fail16:48
holsteinmilad1512: if you are "worried" about running commands, and breaking your system, then i say, you dont have proper backups. address that factual need, and you will need not be afraid of breaking your system, since you will be able to revert16:48
milad1512holstein, how do i revert  ?16:49
holsteinmilad1512: i use clonezilla, if i want/need images.. if not, i just access my backups that i have on other physical media16:50
holsteinmilad1512: "how do i revert" would be best answered by knowing how one backed up what exactly16:50
milad1512i though it's possible without backups16:50
holsteinmilad1512: that hard drive *is* going to fail.. period. they all do..16:51
milad1512can i back up on internet ?16:51
holsteinmilad1512: if you plan for that happening, then, *if* you run a command and your system is broken, then you have bacups16:51
holsteinbackups*16:51
holsteinmilad1512: nothing about ubuntu or xubuntu is preventing you from using something online to backup to..16:52
milad1512ok16:52
milad1512bye for now16:52
chuck_I am having a problem with my terminal.  When using python interpreter, the cursor will jump to the beginning of the line and start overlapping what was already typed.  How can I fix this?16:55
holsteinchuck_: what are you using? and from where?16:56
chuck_Xubuntu 14.04 python 2.716:57
holsteinchuck_: does it do it in tty? is it actually a terminal problem?16:58
holstein!tty16:58
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution16:58
milad1512holstein , hahahaha , i run the command and it only removed about 6 mb(hahahahaha) and unity is gone, hahaha16:58
GridCubeif this is a laptop you might be accidentally tapping the trackpad16:59
milad1512holstein , it wasn't actually few hundred but a few mg16:59
GridCubeyou can enable a lag between the typing and the trackpad detection on the device settings if this is the case17:00
GridCubemilad1512, that makes, sense, but its still not recommended17:00
holsteinmilad1512: correct.. i said, at more, a few hundred, and not to bother with it, for the benefit of free-ing up hard drive space17:00
holsteinat most*17:00
chuck_I am using terminal in Xubuntu.  is that a tty?17:00
holsteinchuck_: no.. try using a tty from the guide i linked above17:01
holsteinTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back)17:01
GridCubeno, a tty is a different instance from the one thats graphically oriented17:01
milad1512holstein , nothing failed i didn't really need any backups17:02
holsteinchuck_: do you experience the same cursor jump in tty?17:02
holsteinmilad1512: no.. you *still* need backups.. nothing you did broke anything, which is great.. congratulations17:02
holsteinmilad1512: but, you can see, all you got was 6mb's free. which is why i suggested not to remove the packages just for the hard drive space..17:03
milad1512holstein , :) yeah i know17:03
milad1512holstein , how often do you use backups ?17:04
holsteinmilad1512: its like what my grandmother told me when i was a kid.. "you dont have to brush your teeth, only the ones you want to keep"17:05
holsteinmilad1512: you backup what you want to keep, since *all* hard drives fail..17:05
holsteinhttp://lifehacker.com/5961216/why-you-should-have-more-than-one-backup for example17:05
holsteinmilad1512: i *immediately* backup what i need to have backed up in the way that fits my needs.. if its something im getting paid for, then, i keep many copies17:06
holsteinmilad1512: for example, i did audio for a local movie. the director called me saying that she cant get her hard drive to mount.. its not my data, nor job.. but i suggested (the same as i suggest to you) that she have copies.. i have the data she paid me to make for her in many places17:07
holsteinthe size of the data, or the hassle of backing up.. its all an excuse. you have to find a solution that fits your needs, and implement it..17:08
holsteinmilad1512: its irrelevant of the operating system.. and should be done with all data that one needs to keep.. i would be glad to discuss further in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel, as this is not xubuntu specific necessarily17:09
chuck_No, it didn't seem to do it.  It wrapped around17:15
chuck_it might have something to do with editing my bash for text completion, but I'm not sure17:16
holsteinchuck_: wrapping is the issue? or jumping?17:21
holsteinchuck_: but, you are saying, in tty, all is well?17:21
chuck_when I get to the end of a line in the python interpreter, the cursor will jump back to the begining of the line I just typed and start to overwrite.  seems to be okay in tty, couldn't reproduce it17:23
holsteinchuck_: you can try other terminals.. or, just work in tty17:24
chuck_...but I often copy & past urls which I can't do in tty17:24
chuck_ok, thanks17:24
sveinseI have a wierd xfce4 on nx question: I've lost the fonts. When I open the terminal, the cursor is there, but no text. Likewise the text on the app menu is gone. I've tried to run xfwm --replace without success. Any ideas?17:37
* m3n3chm0 nasZ17:55
knomem3n3chm0, ?17:59
m3n3chm0hello18:01
knomehello18:04
milad1512what's the best disk image burner ?19:31
brent2Anyone have any idea why I'm receiving this error with xrandr? http://i.imgur.com/UVjd9M1.png20:40
brent2It works fine with LVDS1 (internal display)20:40
ibuntuhello, I'm using Xubuntu 14.04 on an older machine and today when I came home from work it won't connect to a wifi network. It sees them, and tries connect but just saying disconnected after a minute. I couldn't find anything online, can someone help me please?21:11
JCThow do i reset a panel?21:35
JCTi tried to modify application indicator but it wouldn't wok21:36
xubuntu52whello hello22:32
knomehello22:33
xubuntu25wHi there23:40
xubuntu25wI've installed Xubuntu 2 weeks ago and I experienced some screen tearing23:41
xubuntu25wI noticed it appears after the notebook lid has been shut once23:41
xubuntu25winstalled compiz but did not fixed the problem though23:42
xubuntu25wanyone can help23:43

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