[00:46] <v> Sorry, I don't know anything about wsky
[02:35] <milad1512> why in site is says it is highly recommended and preferred to use torrent download ?
[02:36] <Pici> Because that puts less strain on the Xubuntu servers
[02:36] <milad1512> ok, thanks
[02:55] <chaotix> hello, i am trying to get a conky config to look right, and was hoping to get a hand.  it is supposed to have a transparent background,  but for some reason the background of the conky is the default wallpaper of the distro, no matter what i set my wallpaper to... I am using xubuntu 12.04, can anyone help me with this?  this is the conky i am trying to use:  http://zagortenay333.deviantart.com/art/Conky-Vision-395777503     ...and this is my screenshot:
[02:55] <chaotix> http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10132014-105231pm.php][img]http://en.zimagez.com/avatar/screenshot-10132014-105231pm.png
[03:02] <ObrienDave> !crosspost | chaotix
[03:03] <chaotix> ObrienDave, i was not aware
[03:03] <chaotix> thanks for pointing that out
[03:04] <chaotix> i have figured it out now
[03:04] <ObrienDave> 'tis ok, no worries
[03:04] <chaotix> i just needed to uncomment two lines in the conkyrc
[03:04] <chaotix> bye
[03:04] <ObrienDave> good luck and have fun
[03:04] <chaotix> thanks
[06:57] <bellow> I have some bed stuff that when I wash the bed stuff it smells clean but after I dry it there is bad odor coming from them. More info in this link http://pastebin.com/Ard4SXiK
[07:05] <Weaselweb> hi, I'm running Xubuntu 14.04.1 and have a custom sheel script setting some development variables. this shell script is sourced by .bashrc. now starting eclipse from xterminal has those variables set, while eclipse started from launcher does not. how can I set environment variables using that shell script?
[07:10] <ochosi> Weaselweb: you could create a launcher (or edit eclipse's launcher) to run the shell script instead of just executing eclipse?
[07:12] <Weaselweb> is there no generic way? maybe I need those settins for other applications too. I do not want to create specific launchers for each task I need to run
[07:12] <Weaselweb> I found http://superuser.com/questions/485499/how-to-set-environment-variables-for-xfce-windowing-environment but it does not work
[08:25] <bonk3rzz> what gtk peeps running
[08:40] <xubuntu27w> bjr????
[08:41] <xubuntu27w> ??
[08:42] <Unit193> !fr | xubuntu27w
[08:42] <Unit193> You'll have to use words to ask there too though.
[08:43] <xubuntu27w> merci
[09:43] <ioan> hi, I'm themeing xubuntu and need Xfce-Dusk theme
[09:43] <ioan> (I've used that while I had another OS, with Xfce)
[09:44] <ioan> in which package do I find it
[09:44] <ioan> ?
[09:44] <jhenke_> hi folks, just wondering, is there a plan to change the purple highlight colour back to blue for the final 14.10 by default? or is the purple intended for release as well (just wondering)
[09:47] <knome> jhenke_, that's going to be permanent in 14.10
[09:48] <jhenke_> hmm okay
[09:49] <ioan> nevermind, it was in gtk2-engines-xfce
[12:49] <bgardner> Good morning all.  I note xfce4-weather-plugin is floating at the top of the tank for the last few days, apparently due to an API change.  I can see what I think is the Bugzilla entry (https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10916), but Launchpad doesn't indicate that Xubuntu is aware.  Am I looking in the right place for tracking this in Xubuntu?
[13:12] <xubuntu36o> hello
[13:12] <xubuntu36o> is it possible 2 install xubuntu from kubuntu?
[13:13] <xubuntu36o> so, that kubuntu is deleted, and xubuntu is installed
[13:14] <baizon> xubuntu36o: yes it is
[13:15] <xubuntu36o> baizon: is there a wiki articel for it?
[13:15] <xubuntu36o> i found that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[13:15] <baizon> xubuntu36o: google in most cases should have something... for example this: http://www.linux.org/threads/converting-between-the-ubuntus.5079/
[13:16] <baizon> xubuntu36o: or this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xfce
[13:18] <xubuntu36o> oh, okay thanks
[15:06] <xubuntu58w> hi
[15:07] <xubuntu58w> i need help
[15:08] <GridCube> !hi | xubuntu58w
[15:09] <Linnak> Hi, when i want to play a video file with parole i got an error: gstreamer backed error - Could not initialise Xv output
[15:09] <Linnak> Should I install something?
[15:10] <Linnak> The files are mp4 and mkv format
[15:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> Huh, never saw that one before. Is this a recent thing, or has it happened the whole time?
[15:11] <Linnak> Poisoned_Dragon: Talking to me?
[15:12] <xubuntu58w> guys
[15:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yuppers.
[15:12] <xubuntu58w> can taskbar be at bottom ?
[15:12] <holstein> xubuntu58w: yes
[15:12] <Linnak> I've just installed the system
[15:12] <Linnak> And also why is the libreoffice look like windows2000 style. Should I install a theme or something?
[15:13] <holstein> xubuntu58w: you can "right click" on the panel or panel elements and move or remove or edit.. i suggest using the guest account or a live CD to learn how to customize
[15:13] <xubuntu58w> thanks
[15:13] <holstein> !restricted | Linnak
[15:13] <GridCube> xubuntu58w, yes, unlock it in setting, grad and drop the panel from a corner
[15:13] <Linnak> holstein: Thanks
[15:14] <holstein> Linnak: as far as the "theme", i would look for and apply updates.. with the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" command in a terminal, or however you prefer to update, and if your issue with the look/feel is still there, take a screenshot and let the volunteers know what you want to address specifically
[15:16] <xubuntu58w> what is grad
[15:16] <xubuntu58w> and
[15:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Worst case scenario would be to use VLC. I don't think it uses gstreamer libraries.
[15:16] <holstein> xubuntu58w: grad, in relation to what?
[15:16] <xubuntu58w> which is more light lxde or xfce or just for the latest versions ?
[15:17] <xubuntu58w> grid writed it to me
[15:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> I always pull parole on a fresh install.
[15:17] <xubuntu58w> grad and drop
[15:17] <Linnak> i installed restricted extras same error
[15:17] <holstein> xubuntu58w: the "l" is from "lxde", which is "lightweight" x desktop environment
[15:17] <xubuntu58w> i know but
[15:18] <xubuntu58w> before ı see
[15:18] <xubuntu58w> xfce was more lightweight than lxde
[15:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> Lxde is kinda lighter. Certainly modular, like xfce. I just don't like lxde as much.
[15:18] <holstein> xubuntu58w: its always a trade off and a compromise
[15:18] <xubuntu58w> i should be first at google if u search
[15:18] <holstein> xubuntu58w: no one will say xfce is lighter than lxde.. but, its not really all that much heavier
[15:18] <xubuntu58w> ok
[15:18] <xubuntu58w> i didnt liked lubuntu
[15:19] <holstein> xubuntu58w: you may find xfce similarly light, and easier to use
[15:19] <xubuntu58w> will install xubuntu
[15:19] <holstein> xubuntu58w: they are *all* ubuntu
[15:19] <xubuntu58w> ı know
[15:19] <xubuntu58w> now ım running kubuntu
[15:19] <holstein> Linnak: i would try seperating out the codec support from the playback..
[15:19] <xubuntu58w> its contains a lot of things that confuses mind in the UI
[15:20] <GridCube> xubuntu58w, grad == drag
[15:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> Linnak, you said it was a fresh install?
[15:20] <holstein> xubuntu58w: thats why there are other options available..
[15:20] <xubuntu58w> also cant open installed apps quickly from start menu and some slow
[15:21] <holstein> xubuntu58w: there are *many* ways to open applications.. many of which would work in any DE
[15:21] <xubuntu58w> thank you holstein and gridcube for your helps
[15:21] <xubuntu58w> bye
[15:21] <holstein> xubuntu58w: such as synapse or kupfer..
[15:21] <Linnak> holstein: How do you mean separating?
[15:21] <Linnak> Poisoned_Dragon: Yes a fresh one
[15:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> Linnak, install updates. Parole's issues should resolve itself.
[15:22] <holstein> Linnak: i mean, try known good files with default support.. to seperate out is it codec support or bad files.. or OS misconfigureded
[15:22] <Linnak> Poisoned_Dragon: Updates was the first thing I did
[15:23] <Linnak> holstein: OK
[15:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's a missih gstreamer package that now gets installed with a newer version of parole.
[15:23] <holstein> Linnak: try again in a terminal. to be sure.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[15:23] <holstein> also, VLC is one of the first things i install .. i actually prefer it
[15:23] <xubuntu02w> hi
[15:23] <xubuntu02w> ım that guy that was asked some questions
[15:24] <Linnak> holstein: I use that as well. I just tried the things I do with a basic system
[15:24] <xubuntu02w> ı want to know one more thing
[15:24] <holstein> !ask xubuntu02w
[15:25] <xubuntu02w> when ı drag and drop the taskbar to bottom will it be like kde's or lubuntu's taskbar
[15:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> If not, Linnak, there is a terminal command you can try. parole --xv false
[15:25] <xubuntu02w> so no dark
[15:25] <xubuntu02w> white and no blur
[15:25] <xubuntu02w> or some blur like kde plasma
[15:25] <holstein> xubuntu02w: i suggest trying it in the live CD or the guest account. the changes you make will not be persistent
[15:26] <xubuntu02w> ok but
[15:26] <xubuntu02w> this is very important for me
[15:26] <xubuntu02w> if ı can
[15:26] <holstein> xubuntu02w: then, you can see first hand if it fits your needs
[15:26] <xubuntu02w> ı will install
[15:26] <holstein> xubuntu02w: if i want blur, i make blur.. if i dont, i dont..
[15:26] <xubuntu02w> ok
[15:26] <holstein> xubuntu02w: you can experiement with all of this with a live CD *before* installing
[15:26] <xubuntu02w> okay
[15:26] <xubuntu02w> thank yoı
[15:26] <holstein> live USB..
[15:27] <xubuntu02w> ı got it
[15:28] <holstein> i say, get something that best fits your needs and machine and try and just use it for while.. try and not make large changes to it right off.. try the defaults, and learn to configure settings.. then, i think you'll find you can implement literally most anything you want
[15:30] <Linnak> Poisoned_Dragon:  parole --xv false did the job. thanks
[15:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> You're welcome.
[15:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's a dirty solution but, good for the short term.
[15:32] <milad1512> i installed xubuntu from unity, and i want to uninstall unity, what should i do ?
[15:34] <holstein> milad1512: i would acually first consider the "if it aint broke" saying.. and think about leaving it, after looking at the actual hard drive space that it would free up.. i would refer to something like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1976266 or try removing ubuntu-desktop and see what is offered to be removed..
[15:35] <genii> !purexfce
[15:35] <genii> Heh, somewhat out of date now
[15:37] <Linnak> so here is the Libreoffice looks like windows2000 style: http://www.kephost.com/images/2014/10/14/Screenshot-2014-10-14-17.16.03.png
[15:38] <Linnak> The edges of the windows are sharp not smooth rounded. Is it norman on xfce?
[15:39] <milad1512> holstein, is it ok to remove unity from software center ?
[15:40] <milad1512> ubuttu , ?
[15:41] <milad1512> ubottu . Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal). If you're using 12.04, go here. If you're using 11.10, go here. If you're using 10.04, go here. " i have 14.04.1 !
[15:46] <slickymasterWork> milad1512 ubottu is a bot, not a real person ;)
[15:48] <milad1512> is it ok to do this ? "sudo apt-get remove --purge unity" ?
[15:49] <holstein> milad1512: as i said, i would look and see what the benefits are, which is literally only the hard drive space freed up
[15:50] <Pici> milad1512: use the -s (simulate) switch to see what will happen when you do that.  Obviously don't do it if it looks like it will remove too many pacakges.
[15:53] <milad1512> holstein , do you know how much size will be freed up ?
[15:53] <milad1512> Pici , it just removes the "ubuntu-desktop* unity*"
[15:54] <holstein> milad1512: i dont.. but, i would look and see.. its likely a few hundred mb's.. nothing that i would be concerned about
[15:54] <holstein> ubuntu-desktop meta package may offer to remove what you are wanting to remove..
[15:56] <milad1512> holstein , if it's possibly better i want to use that command i wrote earlier. so what do you say ?
[15:57] <milad1512> holstein , i have 1 T hard , but yes , if i don't use the unity a few hundred certainly concerns me still.
[15:58] <holstein> milad1512: then, feel free and research how to remove it.. i would do it with the commands Pici suggested, and see that the commands are going to remove what i want to remove.. as for "is it safe?".. you should have proper backups in place regardless.. consider imaging so you can revert easily
[15:59] <milad1512> holstein , as i said i used that command and it said it only remove ubuntu-desktop* unity*,  so is it safe ?
[16:01] <holstein> milad1512: the safest things i can suggest are, either leave it alone, since nothing is broken, and the benefits are a small amount of hard disk space.. or, have proper backups/images since *all* hard drives will fail, and that is a "good" step regardless.. otherwise, is the command removing what you want to have removed? is so use it
[16:05] <milad1512> holstein , i'll risk, i think :)
[16:05] <holstein> milad1512: have backups, and risk nothing.. since your hard drive and all others fail, its a good plan regardless
[16:07] <milad1512> holstein , ok thanks
[16:07] <milad1512> another question
[16:08] <milad1512> can i install xubuntu with ubuntu live cd ?
[16:08] <milad1512> using TRY UBUNTU . bottom ?
[16:10] <holstein> milad1512: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. and you are asking about, and describing how to do that.. but, you dont at install time.. with the ubuntu iso, you get ubuntu.. you then can install what you like (xfce or xubuntu's desktop, for example).. or, you can use the "net install" mini iso..
[16:10] <holstein> !mini
[16:11] <holstein> from the mini iso, you can basically choose what you want to end up with, which gets downloaded at install time.. but, you dont get to audition the desktop with the "try" option
[16:14] <milad1512> holstein , ubotty , that sure is useful ; thanks
[16:14] <holstein> milad1512: ubottu is a bot.. no problem
[16:15] <holstein> !bot
[16:15] <milad1512> ubottu is seriously a bot ?
[16:17] <milad1512> wow, tanks anyway
[16:19] <GridCube> !thanks
[16:20] <garandil> In 14.04.01 after the latest kernel upgrade my laptop have started to act strange, it will not boot unless I unplug my USB3.0 SSD drive from the machine and replug it while being in rescue mode for the previous kernel and replug the USB drive.. then I am able to reboot and get into the previous kernel annotation in Grub, booting Windows 7 works every time. Any clues are appreciated.
[16:20] <holstein> garandil: the kernel shouldnt effect your booting windows in any way.. so, thats a 'red flag' to me
[16:21] <holstein> garandil: id say, it could be that the "sudo update-grub" command that would have been ran after the installation of the new kernel may have written settings about the USB hard drive you reference
[16:22] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair can be helpful..
[16:22] <garandil> ran update-grub now, will see how that works
[16:35] <milad1512> what's the command to kill all the programs i run at the same time ?
[16:36] <deshipu> milad1512: kill -1
[16:37] <milad1512> thanks
[16:39] <milad1512> deshipu, actually , it was kill -9 -1 . but thanks you made me remember
[16:39] <deshipu> -9 makes it a hard kill
[16:40] <milad1512> deshipu, but kill -1 didn't work
[16:40] <deshipu> milad1512: sorry
[16:41] <milad1512> deshipu, nooooo. what are you sorry for ? . as i said you made me remember so i should be thanking and thanks
[16:41] <deshipu> milad1512: but I remembered wrong :)
[16:41] <deshipu> seems like you have to pass the signal number if you are specifying -
[16:41] <deshipu> -1
[16:42] <milad1512> deshipu , and i remembered nothing and you helped me, and yes
[16:43] <deshipu> yw
[16:43] <milad1512> i gotta go do something dangerous as uninstalling unity so bye for now, pray for me
[16:44] <holstein> milad1512: just backup, and plan for failure.. then, you will be "safe"
[16:44] <milad1512> get my back up on what ?
[16:44] <milad1512> on hard or dvd ?
[16:45] <holstein> milad1512: *anything*.. an image.. another hard drive, since that hard drive *is* going to fail
[16:45] <milad1512> are you sure it going to fail ?
[16:45] <holstein> milad1512: yes.. they *all* do
[16:45] <deshipu> sooner or later
[16:45] <milad1512> even though i installed xubuntu ?
[16:45] <deshipu> there are two kinds of people: those who make backups, and those who will make backups
[16:45] <holstein> so, planning for that factual, inevitable act will help
[16:46] <holstein> milad1512: that is hardware... the hardware will fail..
[16:46] <holstein> milad1512: linux doesnt magically protect your hard drive from failing, as they all do
[16:46] <milad1512> holstein , have you tried that yourself '?
[16:47] <holstein> milad1512: tried what? proper backups? yes.. i image where i want an image. using clonezilla.. and i have multiple copies of important data..
[16:48] <holstein> milad1512: its a fact that your hard drives will all fail.. the one ubuntu is on. the one you backup to. the one in your phone.. the one at the server this chat is running on.. they *all* fail
[16:48] <holstein> milad1512: if you are "worried" about running commands, and breaking your system, then i say, you dont have proper backups. address that factual need, and you will need not be afraid of breaking your system, since you will be able to revert
[16:49] <milad1512> holstein, how do i revert  ?
[16:50] <holstein> milad1512: i use clonezilla, if i want/need images.. if not, i just access my backups that i have on other physical media
[16:50] <holstein> milad1512: "how do i revert" would be best answered by knowing how one backed up what exactly
[16:50] <milad1512> i though it's possible without backups
[16:51] <holstein> milad1512: that hard drive *is* going to fail.. period. they all do..
[16:51] <milad1512> can i back up on internet ?
[16:51] <holstein> milad1512: if you plan for that happening, then, *if* you run a command and your system is broken, then you have bacups
[16:51] <holstein> backups*
[16:52] <holstein> milad1512: nothing about ubuntu or xubuntu is preventing you from using something online to backup to..
[16:52] <milad1512> ok
[16:52] <milad1512> bye for now
[16:55] <chuck_> I am having a problem with my terminal.  When using python interpreter, the cursor will jump to the beginning of the line and start overlapping what was already typed.  How can I fix this?
[16:56] <holstein> chuck_: what are you using? and from where?
[16:57] <chuck_> Xubuntu 14.04 python 2.7
[16:58] <holstein> chuck_: does it do it in tty? is it actually a terminal problem?
[16:58] <holstein> !tty
[16:58] <milad1512> holstein , hahahaha , i run the command and it only removed about 6 mb(hahahahaha) and unity is gone, hahaha
[16:59] <GridCube> if this is a laptop you might be accidentally tapping the trackpad
[16:59] <milad1512> holstein , it wasn't actually few hundred but a few mg
[17:00] <GridCube> you can enable a lag between the typing and the trackpad detection on the device settings if this is the case
[17:00] <GridCube> milad1512, that makes, sense, but its still not recommended
[17:00] <holstein> milad1512: correct.. i said, at more, a few hundred, and not to bother with it, for the benefit of free-ing up hard drive space
[17:00] <holstein> at most*
[17:00] <chuck_> I am using terminal in Xubuntu.  is that a tty?
[17:01] <holstein> chuck_: no.. try using a tty from the guide i linked above
[17:01] <holstein> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back)
[17:01] <GridCube> no, a tty is a different instance from the one thats graphically oriented
[17:02] <milad1512> holstein , nothing failed i didn't really need any backups
[17:02] <holstein> chuck_: do you experience the same cursor jump in tty?
[17:02] <holstein> milad1512: no.. you *still* need backups.. nothing you did broke anything, which is great.. congratulations
[17:03] <holstein> milad1512: but, you can see, all you got was 6mb's free. which is why i suggested not to remove the packages just for the hard drive space..
[17:03] <milad1512> holstein , :) yeah i know
[17:04] <milad1512> holstein , how often do you use backups ?
[17:05] <holstein> milad1512: its like what my grandmother told me when i was a kid.. "you dont have to brush your teeth, only the ones you want to keep"
[17:05] <holstein> milad1512: you backup what you want to keep, since *all* hard drives fail..
[17:05] <holstein> http://lifehacker.com/5961216/why-you-should-have-more-than-one-backup for example
[17:06] <holstein> milad1512: i *immediately* backup what i need to have backed up in the way that fits my needs.. if its something im getting paid for, then, i keep many copies
[17:07] <holstein> milad1512: for example, i did audio for a local movie. the director called me saying that she cant get her hard drive to mount.. its not my data, nor job.. but i suggested (the same as i suggest to you) that she have copies.. i have the data she paid me to make for her in many places
[17:08] <holstein> the size of the data, or the hassle of backing up.. its all an excuse. you have to find a solution that fits your needs, and implement it..
[17:09] <holstein> milad1512: its irrelevant of the operating system.. and should be done with all data that one needs to keep.. i would be glad to discuss further in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel, as this is not xubuntu specific necessarily
[17:15] <chuck_> No, it didn't seem to do it.  It wrapped around
[17:16] <chuck_> it might have something to do with editing my bash for text completion, but I'm not sure
[17:21] <holstein> chuck_: wrapping is the issue? or jumping?
[17:21] <holstein> chuck_: but, you are saying, in tty, all is well?
[17:23] <chuck_> when I get to the end of a line in the python interpreter, the cursor will jump back to the begining of the line I just typed and start to overwrite.  seems to be okay in tty, couldn't reproduce it
[17:24] <holstein> chuck_: you can try other terminals.. or, just work in tty
[17:24] <chuck_> ...but I often copy & past urls which I can't do in tty
[17:24] <chuck_> ok, thanks
[17:37] <sveinse> I have a wierd xfce4 on nx question: I've lost the fonts. When I open the terminal, the cursor is there, but no text. Likewise the text on the app menu is gone. I've tried to run xfwm --replace without success. Any ideas?
[17:55]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[17:59] <knome> m3n3chm0, ?
[18:01] <m3n3chm0> hello
[18:04] <knome> hello
[19:31] <milad1512> what's the best disk image burner ?
[20:40] <brent2> Anyone have any idea why I'm receiving this error with xrandr? http://i.imgur.com/UVjd9M1.png
[20:40] <brent2> It works fine with LVDS1 (internal display)
[21:11] <ibuntu> hello, I'm using Xubuntu 14.04 on an older machine and today when I came home from work it won't connect to a wifi network. It sees them, and tries connect but just saying disconnected after a minute. I couldn't find anything online, can someone help me please?
[21:35] <JCT> how do i reset a panel?
[21:36] <JCT> i tried to modify application indicator but it wouldn't wok
[22:32] <xubuntu52w> hello hello
[22:33] <knome> hello
[23:40] <xubuntu25w> Hi there
[23:41] <xubuntu25w> I've installed Xubuntu 2 weeks ago and I experienced some screen tearing
[23:41] <xubuntu25w> I noticed it appears after the notebook lid has been shut once
[23:42] <xubuntu25w> installed compiz but did not fixed the problem though
[23:43] <xubuntu25w> anyone can help