=== LjL^ is now known as LjL === Haudegen is now known as Guest12602 === gonyere__ is now known as gonyere === RedDeath is now known as Guest88818 [01:50] When Kubuntu 14.10 comes out, will there be a way to easily upgrade 14.04 to 14.10 without completely reinstalling my root partition? === floown_ is now known as floown [02:11] in kubuntu (currently running LiveCD) I have 2 monitors. 1 is DVI and the other is VGA, which goes to a VGA to HDMI converter to my TV. Display options doesn't have the native resolution, or other supported high resolutions. lspci | grep VGA output says "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV300 [Radeon x600] [02:13] i tried using xrandr to add the desired resolution, but when i applied it, the TV went to power saving (no signal) until i turned it back. === Bigcheese_ is now known as Bigcheese [03:44] what package gives me control over the touchpad on laptop ? [03:50] Michael, sudo apt get kde-touchpad [03:50] sudo apt get install kde-touchpad * === denza252 is now known as libreSSL === kevin is now known as Guest91065 === max is now known as Guest58063 === jim is now known as Guest7273 [06:42] anyone know how to install vega strike in kubuntu without using wine? [06:42] I downloaded all the files from sourceforge since the tutorial it gave me to do it through the konsole didn't work [06:44] I ended up extracting all the files into their respective folders, went to the vegastrike data folder, found what I think was the script to install the thing, but when I looked at it through konsole using the ls -all command, it didnt show it as green [06:44] or do I do that through the source code folder of its files? [06:46] MinimalLak: isn't there a readme somewhere? [06:46] I think [06:46] but when I looked through it [06:46] there should be, to give you instructions [06:46] I couldnt find anything relavent to installing it through regular linux [06:46] also, you should be able to read the script in a text editor [06:47] but then again, I was doing it at 2 am, and I was crashing fast [06:47] heh [06:47] so I probably didnt look hard enough [06:47] plus, I tried looking through the vegastrike wiki, but if I remember right, it led me back to the tutorial to install it through konsole [06:47] so no help there [06:48] if you tried at 2am, it's always worth re-checking all your steps [06:48] skipping a vital step is rather common [06:49] also, just as a side note, when I did install it through wine, it did work and boot up, but in vmware player, the cursor was stuck on the top of the screen and wouldnt scroll freely [06:49] just left anf right [06:49] no ups or downs [06:49] so why not run it in wine? [06:49] eh, I wanna do it without wine, to challenge myself [06:49] in a sense [06:50] that sounds like a big challenge [06:50] yep [06:50] I'm thinking that #kubuntu isn't where you'll get help, though [06:50] plus, after I failed installing it through konsole, and wine bugged the thing for me, I deleted all the files I downloaded [06:50] maybe #linux [06:51] hmm [06:52] and how would I open #linux in this chat, so I could switch back n forth between rooms? [06:54] so unless I have to go through the source folder to install the files, how would I give a perl script the ability to run [06:54] i.e make it show up in green font when using the ls -all command? [06:54] maybe that would help [06:54] ah, you are in the webchat [06:54] not sure how you add a channel [06:55] bing isnt helping [06:55] in konversation, I just click the channelname above, and it adds [06:55] im using this room in windows btw, not through linux [06:55] well, mirc is free [06:55] that's what I used in windows [06:56] xchat is free [06:56] etc. [06:56] and I believe that konversation runs in windows as well [06:56] ech, ill figure out the webchat thing later, thanks though [06:56] now back oto the perl script thing [06:56] how do I make one run when it doesnt have that kind of privelage [06:57] I don't know very much about scripting [06:57] or perl for that matter [06:58] like I said, #linux would suit you better here [06:59] thanks for the help tho, imma leave now, starting to get totes tired [07:00] goodbye [07:05] Good morning. === thor_ is now known as thordin === viv`d is now known as vivid [10:14] Waffl3x: Ever get it installed? === Guest12602 is now known as Haudegen [11:07] ap0c: yo [11:07] I just got up half an hour ago, havent tryed to install it again yet [11:08] I just realised what I was doing wrong back there [11:23] Waffl3x: hello [11:23] I'm going to bed in like 40 minutes, reading a bit of this Python book before I crash [11:24] just learned some git CLI basics earlier, reading the git book (its like 9 chapters on git) [11:24] just started chapter 4 but I'm burning out on all the git CLI stuff, want to read some programming stuff now [11:25] Waffl3x: so did you leave the live USB running? === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [11:32] ap0c: Pro GIT? [11:33] lordievader: yeah I'm reading it on git-scm.com [11:34] It's a nice book :D [11:35] indeed [11:53] Hi again, as I said the last time, my VPN connection just won't work under Kubuntu. It's a PPTP connection. And was working so so okay, I think, until yesterday. [11:59] ap0c: im playing videogames instead [12:00] ap0c: im going to install it when I get home probably [12:01] Waffl3x: just follow a good guide, do some quick googling if you need help - I'm going to bed in a few minutes [12:02] the kubuntu documentation is great along with this channel [12:02] you can also try #linux for help as well if you need it [12:08] thanks === rfinley is now known as average_guy [12:42] any idea if we can get the breeze-qt4 theme in 14.04? [12:46] hiiiiiii rani........... [12:48] hiiiii rani [12:50] good === root is now known as Guest39538 === zima42 is now known as zima [13:11] time for take 2 [13:11] who wants to help === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [13:16] I cant find the official documentation [13:16] time to google harder [13:27] can anyone help me with partitioning my drives? [13:27] Im not completely sure how to do it [13:27] Waffl3x: What are you not sure about? [13:28] first, how much to partition [13:28] second, how to actually do it [13:28] I have a better idea than yesterday [13:28] How do you want it partitioned? [13:28] the best way :D [13:28] uhm [13:28] By the by, if you don't know what to do, just use the automatic partitioning options within Ubiquity. [13:29] There is no best way. [13:29] I was told 2 ways if I remember correctly [13:29] 100 gb for the whole thing [13:29] or 3 partitions [13:29] 25 gb [13:29] another 25 for /home I think [13:30] and some to swap [13:30] how much should I put in swap? I think the one guy mentioned 110% of your ram [13:31] Waffl3x: That amount is recommended if you plan to use hibernation. Else any amount you think necessary. [13:31] I dont think I need any since I have 16 gb of ram [13:31] am I being silly? [13:32] Like I said, depends on if you plan to use hibernation. [13:32] If you hibernate all the contents of your ram is written to disk. [13:32] is that the same thing as windows hibernation? [13:32] okay [13:32] as I thought [13:32] come to think of it [13:33] I might do that [13:33] so I might as well [13:34] Or you could just use the standby option... [13:34] I wanted to partition my second hard drive for linux programs, but I was told I didnt need to do that [13:34] or I could just save everything and turn it off [13:34] is swap only used for hibernation? === fabian is now known as Guest75856 [13:35] Waffl3x: No it is also used for when the RAM is full. [13:36] Else the Out Of Memory killer activates ;) [13:36] so in your opinion, do you think its a good idea to partition some swap? [13:36] it sounds to me like it might be [13:37] Waffl3x: Some yes, 16Gb or more would seem like a waste. [13:37] hmm [13:37] 8 gb then I guess [13:38] I usually keep it at max 5GB. But that's me. [13:38] okay so [13:38] how do I do this [13:39] I click the current partition [13:39] click change [13:39] Waffl3x: Boot up using a live-cd. And select the manual partitioner. [13:39] im there [13:40] and for the size [13:40] I do the current size [13:40] minus the size I want the new partition to be [13:40] right? [13:40] I'm not sure at what stage you are now. Do you just see an empty disk? [13:41] im here [13:41] Where is here? [13:41] was going to post a link [13:41] im at disk setup [13:41] right after you select manual [13:42] on the next page [13:42] so I see my partitions [13:43] do you understand where I am? [13:44] Waffl3x: Yes, but if you could post a screenshot that would help ;) [13:44] I cant :/ [13:45] Hmm, allright. Do you have pre-existing partitions that you would like to keep? [13:45] yes [13:46] I want to keep the partitions on both harddrives [13:46] Waffl3x: Have you backed-up your important data? [13:47] there is no irreplaceable data [13:47] I'll take that as a yes. [13:47] except on the second harddrive, but we arnt touching that correct? [13:48] Then resize the existing partitions to make space for the new ones. [13:48] just to confirm [13:48] it probably wont delete any data right? [13:49] I would just be unhappy if I had to reinstall windows [13:49] like I was saying before, how do I do this? [13:50] I click change, and put in how much the partition is minus 25 gb right? [13:50] It should not, but these kinds of operations are not risk free, hence you should allways make a backup before you start the procedure. [13:51] good enough for me [13:51] so same question [13:52] hit change, put in the partition minus 25 gb right? [13:52] Waffl3x: If 25Gb is all you need, yes. [13:53] I was told to do 25 gb's [13:53] for 1 partition [13:53] what do you think? [13:54] Waffl3x: I don't know your requirements. [13:54] also, I get a message, "write previous changes to disk and continue?" "before you can select a new partition size, any previous changes have to be written to disk." "you cannot undo this operation" [13:54] lordievader: im going to be using linux for programming, and just trying it out in general [13:54] most of my stuff is going to stay on the windows side [13:54] Waffl3x: Personally, for a desktop I'd say you want more than 25 Gb. [13:54] stuff = work [13:55] I have 200 gb of free space [13:55] on the 1 harddrive [13:55] I was told to do 25 - 0 for / [13:55] and something else for /home [13:56] and tell me about this message I described word for word [13:56] what does it mean [13:56] sorry for going a mile a minute [13:56] Waffl3x: So you want to resize the existing partition with more than 25Gb. [13:56] Waffl3x: How much will your entire Linux install consume? [13:57] im not sure [13:57] I was told by someone else to just partition 100 gb and put everything in that [13:57] How large do you want /? [13:58] like I said, just going to be using it for programming [13:58] not really much else [13:58] I dont even know why im getting it, aperantly its 10 times better for programming [13:58] so I need very minimal space [13:58] heh [13:58] I've got 20GB assigned to /, rest to /home [13:59] Let's go with 20Gb indeed. Waffl3x how large do you want /home (your personal files)? [13:59] will all the program stuff go there? [14:00] or can I put programs in another harddrive [14:01] Waffl3x: The system programs go to /. The programs you write yourself likely will go to /home/ [14:01] could [14:01] And since this is not $some_other_os, whatever IDE you pick won't take up 20GB all by itself [14:02] wait what? [14:02] Anyhow, partitions can always be resized later on if needed [14:02] I guess ill make home 50 gb [14:03] and to keep things clean swap can be 5 gb's [14:03] now tell me about the message I talked about before [14:03] "write previous changes to disk and continue?" "before you can select a new partition size, any previous changes have to be written to disk." "you cannot undo this operation" [14:04] Waffl3x: Cancel your current changes and resize the current partitions to make way for 75Gb of free space. [14:05] I haven't made any changes yet [14:05] Unapplied changes... [14:06] no I literally made no changes yet [14:06] if I try to make changes I get that message [14:06] so I didnt do anything [14:07] That message comes from unapplied changes... [14:07] ok I resized [14:07] but I got the message again [14:07] should I just continue or is it actually something important [14:07] Waffl3x: Depends on what is triggering it... [14:08] when I click change [14:08] I change the size to 425104 mb [14:08] from 500104 mb [14:08] ? [14:08] (500104 mb - 75000 mb) [14:08] is that not how im supposed to do it? [14:09] Nevermind... Missed a 0... [14:09] so im fine then? click continue? [14:10] Suppose so, you've made a backup ;) [14:14] seems it worked [14:15] walk me through this [14:15] theres a lot of things I dont understand here [14:15] use as ext4 right? [14:15] location should be beginning or end [14:15] primary or logical partition [14:16] mount point is / for the 20 gb partition right? [14:16] How do I disable something called powerdevil? I'm getting totally insane memoryleak in kded4 (~10GB RAM usage!) and a Google-search appears to say it's due to powerdevil [14:17] Waffl3x: For the first partition (/) use ext4, leave start and stop point as is, change size to 20Gb. And set the mount point to / [14:18] Waffl3x: For /home, also use ext4, change to size to 50Gb and set the mountpoint to /home [14:18] Waffl3x: For swap set the type to swap and the size to whatever is left. [14:18] leave start and stop point as is? [14:20] Waffl3x: Yes, let ubiquity figure that out. [14:21] lordievader: theres nothing on here about that though, im just curious as the why you mentioned it [14:22] Waffl3x: It's partly from what I remember. Might've been gparted though. [14:22] well thats all done [14:22] anything else I need to change? [14:22] boot loader? [14:22] nothing? [14:22] Waffl3x: Continue the installation. [14:23] do I want to format swap area? [14:23] it didnt automatically check format for swap [14:24] normally I would assume no since it didnt automatically check it [14:24] but since you're here I might as well ask just in case :D [14:24] Waffl3x: Formatting swap is not possible. [14:24] I wouldnt know that so :D [14:28] thanks for the help lordievader [14:28] No problem ;) [14:29] mind telling me why people were twisting my arm to get this for programming? [14:29] besides the fact that it looks a lot better than windows [14:29] Lots of it depends on personal preference. [14:31] yeah I get that [14:31] but why do so many people have it as personal preference [14:31] is it just easier layout wise to program on [14:31] or is there software advantages aswell [14:32] Waffl3x: It's flexible I suppose. [14:33] theres so much I want to learn about computers [14:33] I hope this is a good step to learning it [14:34] maybe I should have just fired up the old commodore 64 [14:34] xD [14:35] ive heard so many new words with linux though, it confuses me [14:35] when I was younger I thought linux was the operating system [14:35] and then theres things like debian that I dont know what they are [14:36] Waffl3x: Linux is an operating system, but when you get down to it. It is merely the core of it. [14:36] so there is a linux? [14:36] oh === christian is now known as Guest29450 [14:36] so what is kubuntu and ubuntu? [14:36] extentions to linux? [14:37] we're the people who ship linux and all the other bits to make it run [14:37] Waffl3x: Let's move this over to #kubuntu-offtopic [14:37] kk === emma_ is now known as em [14:56] Anyone familiar with kded4 leaking memory like a sieve? [14:56] hi ... is anyone find solution for KDE Kickoff bugg with "switch tabs on hover" option always reset itself?? i disable it and after some times or after next login it turns on how to force KDE to remember kickoff settings? [14:58] in Linux config files ar all about,,right?? so wich conf. file manage this menu ?? === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [15:01] hi ... is anyone find solution for KDE Kickoff bugg with "switch tabs on hover" option always reset itself?? i disable it and after some times or after next login it turns on how to force KDE to remember kickoff settings? and in Linux config files ar all about,,so wich conf. file is for this this menu ?? [15:02] ?? === Felipe is now known as Guest34938 [15:02] I have no idea where Kickoff stores its settings [15:04] any idea?? where i shold search? === fabian is now known as Guest8077 [15:07] >is it somewhere in ~/.kde/ ?? [15:14] hi ... is anyone find solution for KDE Kickoff bugg with "switch tabs on hover" option always reset itself?? i disable it and after some times or after next login it turns on how to force KDE to remember kickoff settings? and in Linux config files ar all about,,so wich conf. file is for this this menu ?? [15:18] aloo is there any KDE geek/pro active?? [15:19] haloo is there any KDE geek/pro active?? [15:35] if you're not using a remote SSH session, what is the risk of logging into a terminal session using sudo bash? [15:35] jasoncollege24: The risk is that you are having a root shell. [15:36] The usual way is sudo -i [15:36] i dn't understand the risk of using the root shell [15:36] Linux assumes you know what you are doing, if you want to remove something very import as root no questions are asked. [15:37] Nowadays you are warned by rm that 'rm -rf /' is a bad idea. In the past it would just wipe everything, no questions asked... [15:37] which means the OS could get stuffed up by removing something you need as a root user [15:38] Up to and including everything, yes. [15:38] and only a non-root shell warns you about such mistaks? [15:38] No, a non-root user doesn't have the right to do those kind of things. [15:39] ok i think i get it... it's kinda like the modern windows platforms that prevent the non-admins from removing, or altering critical files. [15:40] jasoncollege24: Exactly. So don't run things as root if they don't require it. [15:40] most of what I do seems to require it lol [15:42] oh and apparently the problem I was having before with the computer crashing, freezing, HDD issues was actually the system possibly being incompatible with linux... is that actually possible on a PC? === kroot_ is now known as Guest5652 === nikil_nikil is now known as nandhu__ [16:41] hi folks test 1 2 [17:18] Hi all [18:37] greetings everyone [18:37] How can I have audio and video preview in dolphin using KDE 4.13.3? [18:39] Marasgeon: define previewm you want thumbnail or want to play it in dolphin panel ? [18:39] well both if possible [18:40] soee: is there a way to have both? [18:41] well for me it just works [18:41] soee: How you managed to do it? [18:43] check if you have installed package ffmpegthumbs ot kffmpegthumbnailer [18:43] soee: can I find them from the package manager? [18:44] i think you should be able [18:44] so you have sound thumbs and player in KDE 4.13? [18:45] im on 4.14.2 / Utopic [18:45] and yes i have both video and music playback in right panel [18:46] right ok, so just these 2 packages and I'm allright? [18:47] Marasgeon: im not sure [18:48] soee: ok thanks, I'll try [19:03] after downloaded the 1G 14.04 ISO Kubuntu ISO i thought i'm ready for installation but the installation itself downloads tons of gigs more for hours, WTF, I canceled it. any help ? [19:07] Guest2468: From where did you download it? [19:08] http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu then followed the UK mirror [19:09] Guest2468: Ok, did you select that it needed to fetch updates? [19:10] lordievader : you mean in the installation dialog ? [19:10] Guest2468: Yes, somewhere on the first pages. [19:14] lordievader : didn't see any such option [19:16] Guest2468: Hmm, that might explain what you are seeing though. [19:18] lordievader : I launched the iso from daemontools from windows 8 , it shows a dialog only with the following fields : installation drive, installation size , desktop env, user, password, lang. and that's it , then next step it starts to downloads tons of stuff [19:22] from daemon tools in winmdows [19:22] that's no way to install an OS [19:22] Guest2468, [19:23] Guest2468: Please don't do that. You are installing it through Wubi. Wubi is crap. It is better to make a live-usb and install Kubuntu properly. === Michael is now known as Guest9008 [19:24] lordievader : thanks for the tip, will try === kroot_ is now known as Guest30415 === nikil_nikil is now known as naggappan === bprompt_ is now known as bprompt [19:36] So on Kubuntu 14.04, using chrome-stable (Version 38.0.2125.101 (64-bit)) has become a nightmare, it crashes about every 5 minutes.. The inspector has become completely useless, it simply crashes upon opening.. Website tabs may crash for various reasons, like scrolling down.. Then the entire chrome browser might crash all together also for about any reason at all multiple times per day.. Any reason as to why this might happen? [19:37] blubberbop: Try chromium ;) === IdleOne- is now known as IdleOne [19:38] lordievader: Not really the answer I was looking for, but while on the subject, what are the (technical) differences? I know chromium is open source, but can it do the same advanced things? Can I sync all my browser settings and history with chromium as well like I do with chrome right now, etc? [19:39] blubberbop: It is very alike. Google adds a few closed source things, can't remember what they where. The internet knows that though ;) [19:39] hallo, kann ich hier hilfe erhalten über kubuntu 14.04 ?? [19:39] !de| patricia_ [19:39] patricia_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [19:40] danke === Drone`` is now known as Drone` === kubuntu is now known as Guest87632 === Guest87632 is now known as encolpe [21:33] hi guys, since the last few days my wifi has gotten very slow and unreliable. No data is transfered even though it claims to be connected. I'm using 14.04 and this seems to be happening since the last update I did (but I wasn't paying close attention to what was being updated unfortunately) [21:34] it only happens in kubuntu, when I use windows (dualboot) on the same machine things are fine and noone else on my wifi seems affected === BigWig is now known as ugly_cat [22:50] sup === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt